Re: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[nancymike]

They are working hard to that end.  Be very alert.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: bbanever 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:39 AM
  Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico


  Trem,

  If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and shut 
down any and all food supplement industries eventually.  Notice how negative 
press is slowly creeping its way into the media about such things as Vitamin C. 
 Soon, all of our natural alternative remedies will be available by 
prescription only... or not at all.  God help us

  Bob

RE: CS>o2 concentrator

[william meyer]

they only go up to about 8psi for decent home concentrator.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Holmes 
Sent: Dec 1, 2004 10:30 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>A good nebulizer for CS

"O2 concentrator would build up to 20 PSI??"

Probably not.  I know little of them.  You would probably need a pump.

JOH

-Original Message-
From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS

I have an O2 concentrator. Are you saying I can run this Harbor Freight
airbrush off of it? I thought it would harm the concentrator's compressor. I
already have the HF airbrush.

 I'm thinking I can do this with a diversion relief valve that I tighten
when I want O2 fed under pressure to the airbrush for a few seconds. A few
seconds strain should not harm the concentrator's compressor???

I have an AirSep concentrator. The lowest flow rate it goes at 1.5 liters
per minute. Otherwise it shuts down.

> configured, when attached to a standard welders O2 regulator or medical
> regulator set to about 20 PSI, to make a finer particle than the best

O2 concentrator would build up to 20 PSI??


Dan





- Original Message -
From: "Jim Holmes" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: CS>A good nebulizer for CS


> Other than having a ferrous top in the glass liquid container, the unit is
> well-made, mostly of brass.  Yes, some of the small parts are a bit less
> than hi-tech, they do the job.  I have used one for years without breaking
> anything.
>
> They sell for about 8 Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Devices, but I have
> seen them on sale for about 5.
>
> No electricity required...
>
> Can be run on an oxygen generator without having an outside source of
> bottled O2.
>
> That's why.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:17 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
>
> Brooks Bradley's research team at the Harborne Foundation determined with
> clinical experience that CS dispersed in 02, ---a colloid within a
> colloid---was significantly more effective than the CS alone.  DMSO is a
> further improvement, particularly when a lot of fluid or mucus is a
factor.
>
>
> They also determined that a Harbor Freight Taiwan artist's airbrush could
be
> configured, when attached to a standard welders O2 regulator or medical
> regulator set to about 20 PSI, to make a finer particle than the best
> medical nebulizers.  Held about 1.5 inches from the hand, no spray is seen
> being emitted from the nozzle, but your hand gets wet.
>
> There is no intent to blast the aerosol into your system or lungs; it is
> nly a method of making a very fine-particle suspension available for
normal
> inspiration.  Air may be used if it is absolutely clean.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:07 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
>
> >
> > Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer,
>
> Why is that? Because the airbrush shoots the CS/DMSO/MSM mist deep into
the
> lungs? Why is oxygen better than compressed air to use in this airbrush
set
> up?
>
> >but each of these
> > nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> __
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
>
>
> > Hi Christine:
> >
> > I'll agree that the Omron CompAir Elite is a good unit.  I have one.
> >
> > I would prefer the Omron Ultrasonic, but at the time of my own purchase,
I
> > didn't want to afford to the more expensive unit.
> >
> > The ultrasonic unit produces a finer mist, but is roughly $60-100 more
> > expensive.
> >
> > Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer, but each of
these
> > nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:24 AM
> > Subject: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thought I would share this with you all.  I use the OMROM CompAir
Elite
> > > nebulizer with my CS and it works wonderfully.  I've used it on myself
> and
> > > my birds and have only good things to say about it.  It is very small,
> > > portable, relatively quiet and easy to use.  It has adapters for the
car
> > > and can be used with both AC and DC I think.
> > >
> > > Here's a link to show you what it looks like:
> > >
> > > http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm
> > >
> > > I did not get mine here.  This site was from a random websearch.  I
just
> > > picked with site because it has a decent picture and good explanation
of
> > > the nebulizer's features.
> > >
> > > I bought mine brand new on Ebay for $

Re: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

[Jonathan B. Britten]

A good way to resist these monopolistic practices is to support the 
Life Extension Foundation.  If you buy vitamins from them, you support 
their efforts;  a membership reduces your cost of vitamins.   They have 
won some suits against the FDA, which sought to block LEF from 
publishing legitimate health information.The legal precedent was 
very important indeed.


Dr. Rath is interesting and useful but hurts his cause with expensive 
and nearly hysterical advertised insinuations  that pharmaceutical 
companies engineered 9/11 and are preparing for WWIII in order to 
protect their markets.I do not know how he can afford full-page 
newspaper advertisements of this kind, but I have seen them several 
times.


I believe the cynicism of the medical cartel nearly boggles the 
imagination, but I think LEF may do a better job of protecting our 
interests than Dr. Rath.   My humble opinion. . . .






On Thursday, Dec 2, 2004, at 01:48 Asia/Tokyo, 
cmccau...@kayescholer.com wrote:




In a nutshell, Codex is:



 To assure the continuation of the billion dollar pharmaceutical 
market, the German
 and international pharmaceutical corporations have formed a worldwide 
cartel. They
 gave this cartel the Latin name "Codex Alimentarius." The purpose of 
this Codex
 cartel is to bring about international legislation that bans the 
distribution of

 lifesaving health information in relation to vitamins.

 Reference: http://www.drrathresearch.org/about_drrath/chemnitz06.html




Wow. What's next?

IMHO, of course.
Christine Mc.


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RE: CS>Air compressors- safe ones for use with Harbor Freight airbrush nebulizer

[ransley]

> I shall call tomorrow
about the DOT regulations. Many thanks for alerting me into them. Though
don't you think they are for explosive gasses, not oxygen?<

No, it's about valve neck breakage which will allow the bottle to literally
turn into a rocket. The smaller the tank, the less the damage if it happens,
but big ones can really cause a thrill. That's why they make you transport
them upright and secured. DB


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Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS

[fg227]

- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS


> Pure oxygen will kill anaerobic bacteria directly, so it enhances the
effect.
>
> Marshall

Thanks. That makes a lot of sense!!!
Dan


>
> fg227 wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer,
> >
> > Why is that? Because the airbrush shoots the CS/DMSO/MSM mist deep into
the
> > lungs? Why is oxygen better than compressed air to use in this airbrush
set
> > up?
> >
> > >but each of these
> > > nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts!
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > __
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jason" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
> >
> > > Hi Christine:
> > >
> > > I'll agree that the Omron CompAir Elite is a good unit.  I have one.
> > >
> > > I would prefer the Omron Ultrasonic, but at the time of my own
purchase, I
> > > didn't want to afford to the more expensive unit.
> > >
> > > The ultrasonic unit produces a finer mist, but is roughly $60-100 more
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer, but each of
these
> > > nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts!
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:24 AM
> > > Subject: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thought I would share this with you all.  I use the OMROM CompAir
Elite
> > > > nebulizer with my CS and it works wonderfully.  I've used it on
myself
> > and
> > > > my birds and have only good things to say about it.  It is very
small,
> > > > portable, relatively quiet and easy to use.  It has adapters for the
car
> > > > and can be used with both AC and DC I think.
> > > >
> > > > Here's a link to show you what it looks like:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm
> > > >
> > > > I did not get mine here.  This site was from a random websearch.  I
just
> > > > picked with site because it has a decent picture and good
explanation of
> > > > the nebulizer's features.
> > > >
> > > > I bought mine brand new on Ebay for $50.00, shipping included.
> > > >
> > > > Just thought this might help whomever was thinking about delivering
CS
> > > with
> > > > a nebulizer.
> > > >
> > > > In my humble opinion, of course.
> > > >
> > > > Christine Mc.
> >
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RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[Yogiboy]

Dr Kenney,:-) I believe it is all about money and power, more evident
then ever before. AND everybody remotely related to the pharmaceuticals
is in on the money game. We are all merely good paying customers for our
health care. And a good customer is good business. It's all about the
money. The American way.!

-Original Message-
From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

Megadoses of water is one of the first things they make women take to
cause
an abortion...  Megadoses of anything is dangerous.  However this
doesn't
mean you need to get a prescription for x amount of water every day.
The FDA is going on the presumption we are all idiots...under the guise
of
protecting us all.  I really think it is a money and power thing
Dr. Kenney

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:48 PM
To: Silver List
Subject: RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

In mega doses in definitely causes early abortion. 20,000 mg divided
will spike estrogen levels and cause abotion in fetuses two weeks old or
less. This is used therapeutically by some.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:30, Jim Holmes wrote:
> A few years ago some Brit Docs said Vit  C could cause cancer, in
> therapeutic dosages.  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:39 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico
> 
>  
> 
> Trem,
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and
> shut down any and all food supplement industries eventually.  Notice
> how negative press is slowly creeping its way into the media about
> such things as Vitamin C.  Soon, all of our natural alternative
> remedies will be available by prescription only... or not at all.  God
> help us
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 


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Re: CS>How to combat CODEX

[d...@altsystem.com]

I don't know about anybody else, but I feel relatively powerless to stop
this and other governmental travesties.  I have already written my
congressmen twice, I think they are ignoring me.  I have signed
petitions, I have donated cash to organizations that claim to be working
to prevent this (but I have no idea if they really are).  I have told
everyone I know to do the same.

Yet I get the feeling that our efforts are equivalent to trying to stop
a train by spreading cobwebs acoss the track.  We don't have enough
people who are aware of it and not enough of those care enough to do
something about it.

Enter the underground: the black market for supplements.  We will have
to purchase our vit C from some rogue  dealer under cover of night.
Health is something that will become illegal.  Law abiding citizens will
be sick most of the time and will be paying even more to their doctors
to alleviate their symptoms.  We alternative medicine freaks will be
criminals and end up in prison because we we were caught with 1000mg Vit
C caps in our possession!

Think I will take a year off and write a novel about this.

Del
- Original Message - 
From: "Nenah Sylver" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:01 PM
Subject: CS>How to combat CODEX


> This is very important!  It has already happened in Europe!!!
>
> If we do not TAKE ACTION to prevent this travesty here, by alerting
our
> legislators, friends etc. we will have only ourselves to blame if
CODEX is
> approved in the U.S. (please read the short article for details and
for the
> way to contact your representives)
>
> Please do all you can to see that our rights to buy supplements is not
> unduly restricted.  Thank you in advace for forwarding this email to
> everyone in you address book.
>



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RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[David W Kenney]

Megadoses of water is one of the first things they make women take to cause
an abortion...  Megadoses of anything is dangerous.  However this doesn't
mean you need to get a prescription for x amount of water every day.
The FDA is going on the presumption we are all idiots...under the guise of
protecting us all.  I really think it is a money and power thing
Dr. Kenney

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:48 PM
To: Silver List
Subject: RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

In mega doses in definitely causes early abortion. 20,000 mg divided
will spike estrogen levels and cause abotion in fetuses two weeks old or
less. This is used therapeutically by some.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:30, Jim Holmes wrote:
> A few years ago some Brit Docs said Vit  C could cause cancer, in
> therapeutic dosages.  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:39 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico
> 
>  
> 
> Trem,
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and
> shut down any and all food supplement industries eventually.  Notice
> how negative press is slowly creeping its way into the media about
> such things as Vitamin C.  Soon, all of our natural alternative
> remedies will be available by prescription only... or not at all.  God
> help us
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 


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RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[Garnet]

In mega doses in definitely causes early abortion. 20,000 mg divided
will spike estrogen levels and cause abotion in fetuses two weeks old or
less. This is used therapeutically by some.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:30, Jim Holmes wrote:
> A few years ago some Brit Docs said Vit  C could cause cancer, in
> therapeutic dosages.  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:39 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico
> 
>  
> 
> Trem,
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and
> shut down any and all food supplement industries eventually.  Notice
> how negative press is slowly creeping its way into the media about
> such things as Vitamin C.  Soon, all of our natural alternative
> remedies will be available by prescription only... or not at all.  God
> help us
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 


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RE: CS>How to combat CODEX

[David W Kenney]

As I understand this...we are a member of WHO and are automatically
subscribed to whatever they subscribe to.  They have subscribed to this
supplement program and thus the US will somehow automatically be a part of
it next August...
Our sovereignty is slowly being eroded


-Original Message-
From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:ne...@bestweb.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>How to combat CODEX

> This is very important!  It has already happened in Europe!!!
> 
> If we do not TAKE ACTION to prevent this travesty here, by alerting our 
> legislators, friends etc. we will have only ourselves to blame if CODEX is

> approved in the U.S. (please read the short article for details and for
the 
> way to contact your representives)
> 
> Please do all you can to see that our rights to buy supplements is not 
> unduly restricted.  Thank you in advace for forwarding this email to 
> everyone in you address book.
> 
> 
> from: Health Sciences Institute e-Alert
> December 01, 2004
> 
> Dear Reader,
> 
> In the days and weeks before a major earthquake, seismologists
> often record tremors -subterranean rumbles, signaling that
> something destructive is on the way.
> 
> Consider today's e-Alert a tremor.
> 
> Something very destructive is headed our way, and it will have a
> deeply negative impact on your right to make your own healthcare
> decisions.
> 
> 
> Dreaming up dangers
> 
> 
> In the e-Alert I sent you on Friday, 11/19/04, I shared this
> comment from an HSI member who goes by the initials PKL: "My
> friend, an ND, said 2 years ago that as the date for the USA to
> comply with codex alimentarius rules approached (Aug.2005) we
> would see scare stories coming out in the media about the
> 'dangers' of common vitamins and supplements."
> 
> PKL's friend felt the tremors coming. And his prediction was right
> on the money. In recent e-Alerts I told you about two flawed
> studies that produced over-the-top scare headlines regarding the
> supposed risks of taking vitamins C and E in large doses. But these
> studies are not isolated cases.
> 
> For instance, a recent "long-term study" found that glucosamine
> was less effective than a placebo in relieving arthritis pain. But a
> closer look at the published research reveals that the actual study
> period was only six months long, and all of the subjects had
> previously found glucosamine to be effective over a two-year
> period. (The researchers were counting those two years as part of
> the "long-term".) Nevertheless, this research was reported as a
> failure for glucosamine.
> 
> Is the timing of these and other deliberately negative studies a
> coincidence? Or is it part of a concerted effort to plant the seeds of
> doubt in the mind of the public?
> 
> 
> Harsh harmony
> 
> 
> As PKL pointed out, the whole point of planting those seeds is to
> prepare for the approaching Codex deadline.
> 
> The U.S. is one of the 165 member countries of the Codex
> Alimentarius Commission - an international food standards
> program created by the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
> and the World Health Organization (WHO). One of the purposes
> of the Codex Commission is to "harmonize" international food
> trade. And here are a few key elements of that harmonizing:
> 
> * WHO classifies all dietary supplements as drugs
> * The Codex Commission intends to limit over-the-counter sales of
>   dietary supplements while reclassifying others as
>   pharmaceuticals, available only through a pharmacist
> * Under World Trade Organization (WTO) rules, Codex guidelines
>   override the regulations of individual countries
> * Member countries (including the U.S.) that refuse to accept and
>   enforce the WTO directives are subject to severe trade sanctions
> 
> A strong tremor was felt just last month when the Codex
> Commission approved draft guidelines that will begin restricting
> the sale of dietary supplements as early as next summer. So in spite
> of our current laws that make a wide range of vitamins, minerals
> and herbal formulations readily available, the U.S. is poised to
> simply put those laws aside to conform to the unacceptably
> restrictive Codex guidelines.
> 
> 
> Whose country is it anyway?
> 
> 
> Incredible, isn't it? Our freedom to make our own healthcare
> choices may simply be taken away by an international commission.
> But at this point, the imposition of the Codex guidelines isn't
> necessarily a done deal. And although the situation is not
> promising, it's still not too late to help prevent it from happening.
> 

Re: CS>Air compressors- filters & dryers

[John W]

Jeezs, just go and have a oxygen tank filled at the nearest welding supplier 
and forget about compressors and oil and everything else that will 
contaminate your lungs. They are the only lungs you will ever have. Quit 
being silly when it comes to something irreplaceable as your lungs.

John

- Original Message - 
From: "ransley" 

To: "The Silverlist" ; "AJ" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Air compressors- filters & dryers



Somewhere on some forum long ago, someone knowledgable in medical air
supplies and human lungs told me that it would be better to use an oilless
compressor with no filter at all rather than to use a filter which might 
put
particulate matter from the back side of the filter into one's lungs. I 
took

that advice and have had no problems BUT>>>

Here's some things I've repeatedly said-

Don't use an old compressor for this, use a new oilless one and dedicate 
it

to only this so it doesn't wear badly.

Never use an unfiltered oil-bath compressor.

As far as filters go that are available to the general public, I, if I
needed to, would use a plasma cutter filter. Plasma cutter tips will self
destruct from the least bit of air contamination. Practically nothing gets
through those filters.

If you were to use a plasma cutter filter, you would probably get
considerably more contamination from a common nebulizer than you would 
from

an air compressor.

DB


List,

Anyone thinking of using an industrial/hobby type compressor for medical
use, MUST, repeat MUST use an air dryer in the line in the line before the
nebuliser.
They dryer removes 99.99% of moisture and oil which will be in a super 
fine

mist in the compressed air.
I believe that Cummins engines do make an automotive type compressed air
dryer, to remove the nasties, as in cold climates, any moisture in the air
brake system will freeze and cause loss of air.
My 2 cents worth
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Re: CS>codex

[Marshall Dudley]

If you want to stay on top of the Codex topic, and get updates as they are
available, and who to contact to try and block this then go to
http://www.iahf.com and sign up for their newsletter.

Marshall

Betsy Coffey wrote:

> I recieved five very informative messages from the
> silver list forum this morning. This movement by the
> govt to regulate supplements is something to be taken
> very seriously. I am willing and will commit myself to
> writing as many congress people that I can but I
> really think that it is going to take some type of
> grass roots movement by concerned citizens.People in
> congress have access to the best health care and have
> more options.They also work for the govt. It seems
> like there must be something else that people can do
> to stop what is happening.
> The person that wants to keep their name off of the
> medical data has a very good idea. I wish that I had
> thought of that years ago.
>
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Re: CS>

[Paul Holloway]

Try http://www.biophysica.com/index.htm
  - Original Message - 
  From: panamp...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:22 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>


  Ernie, I am unable to pull up the web site you show on your post?!
  Are you sure this is a valid site?Pete

Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS

[Marshall Dudley]

Pure oxygen will kill anaerobic bacteria directly, so it enhances the effect.

Marshall

fg227 wrote:

> >
> > Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer,
>
> Why is that? Because the airbrush shoots the CS/DMSO/MSM mist deep into the
> lungs? Why is oxygen better than compressed air to use in this airbrush set
> up?
>
> >but each of these
> > nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts!
>
> Dan
>
> __
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
>
> > Hi Christine:
> >
> > I'll agree that the Omron CompAir Elite is a good unit.  I have one.
> >
> > I would prefer the Omron Ultrasonic, but at the time of my own purchase, I
> > didn't want to afford to the more expensive unit.
> >
> > The ultrasonic unit produces a finer mist, but is roughly $60-100 more
> > expensive.
> >
> > Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer, but each of these
> > nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:24 AM
> > Subject: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thought I would share this with you all.  I use the OMROM CompAir Elite
> > > nebulizer with my CS and it works wonderfully.  I've used it on myself
> and
> > > my birds and have only good things to say about it.  It is very small,
> > > portable, relatively quiet and easy to use.  It has adapters for the car
> > > and can be used with both AC and DC I think.
> > >
> > > Here's a link to show you what it looks like:
> > >
> > > http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm
> > >
> > > I did not get mine here.  This site was from a random websearch.  I just
> > > picked with site because it has a decent picture and good explanation of
> > > the nebulizer's features.
> > >
> > > I bought mine brand new on Ebay for $50.00, shipping included.
> > >
> > > Just thought this might help whomever was thinking about delivering CS
> > with
> > > a nebulizer.
> > >
> > > In my humble opinion, of course.
> > >
> > > Christine Mc.
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Re: CS>CS good & bad stomach bacteria

[Sally Khanna]

Really, I don't know that they've only begun to be used, because I heard of 
them being used when I was a kid.  Knew someone who had osteomyelitis and 
recovered.  Maggots were used.
 
Sally

himagain  wrote:
At 04:59 PM 30/11/04, Garnet wrote:

>Maggots are still used to clean infected wounds, here in the US.
>
>Garnet
Hi Garnet & folks,
Just in the interests of accuracy: "Maggots have *begun* to be used in 
the USA recently."
Causing quite a lot of agony in the PharmaMedbiz still, according to 
proponents.. a real problem - they work..

Cheers,
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CS>codex

[Betsy Coffey]

I recieved five very informative messages from the
silver list forum this morning. This movement by the
govt to regulate supplements is something to be taken
very seriously. I am willing and will commit myself to
writing as many congress people that I can but I
really think that it is going to take some type of
grass roots movement by concerned citizens.People in
congress have access to the best health care and have
more options.They also work for the govt. It seems
like there must be something else that people can do
to stop what is happening. 
The person that wants to keep their name off of the
medical data has a very good idea. I wish that I had
thought of that years ago.



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RE: CS>Air compressors- filters & dryers

[ransley]

Somewhere on some forum long ago, someone knowledgable in medical air
supplies and human lungs told me that it would be better to use an oilless
compressor with no filter at all rather than to use a filter which might put
particulate matter from the back side of the filter into one's lungs. I took
that advice and have had no problems BUT>>>

Here's some things I've repeatedly said-

Don't use an old compressor for this, use a new oilless one and dedicate it
to only this so it doesn't wear badly.

Never use an unfiltered oil-bath compressor.

As far as filters go that are available to the general public, I, if I
needed to, would use a plasma cutter filter. Plasma cutter tips will self
destruct from the least bit of air contamination. Practically nothing gets
through those filters.

If you were to use a plasma cutter filter, you would probably get
considerably more contamination from a common nebulizer than you would from
an air compressor.

DB

>List,
Anyone thinking of using an industrial/hobby type compressor for medical
use, MUST, repeat MUST use an air dryer in the line in the line before the
nebuliser.
They dryer removes 99.99% of moisture and oil which will be in a super fine
mist in the compressed air.
I believe that Cummins engines do make an automotive type compressed air
dryer, to remove the nasties, as in cold climates, any moisture in the air
brake system will freeze and cause loss of air.
My 2 cents worth
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RE: CS>Avoiding getting on medical databases

[Yogiboy]

I'm just glad I don't like states side..Not to say it isn't a beautiful
country with nice people. But the govt. ? oh man..

-Original Message-
From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Avoiding getting on medical databases

Misspelling your real name and inserting a middle name (or middle
initial)
you don't have can help. Probably misspelling the last name is the most
crucial.


D









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From: "Teri Johnston" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Avoiding getting on medical databases


>
>
> At 10:35 AM 12/1/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any clever ideas on how to remain invisible to the
medical
> >powers that be?  I have not spoken to this doctor's office yet. Yet I
would
> >like to remain off medical databases. I will pay in cash. Should I
lie
about
> >my name and SS number?
> >
> I use my real name but a fake S.S. and pay in cash at my doctor's
office
in
> the hopes of avoiding this. Just be sure to write down the number you
use
> as if you are sent out for tests you want the same number.
>
> Teri
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RE: CS>

[Yogiboy]

Thanks for the Info. I am appauled..The FDA,FTC, Judges, congressman,
lobby groups, researches and even many "societies" wanting funding for
cures are in on the "money game" everyone's been bought. It's a huge
sell out.
This doesn't even include the list of media and politicians.

Kindest regards

Ernie

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>

Interesting info about the author of the book Kevin
Trudeau

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/trudeaucoral.htm


--- Yogiboy  wrote:

> Pete, I'm sorry maybe this is better.
> www.naturalcures.com
>  
>  
> Just to let you know, that book is a great read, the
> information may be
> something you are probably most painfully aware of
> already. As for
> becoming a member? I find this rather pricey.
>  
> Thanks Ernie
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: panamp...@aol.com [mailto:panamp...@aol.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:22 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>
>  
> Ernie, I am unable to pull up the web site you show
> on your post?!
> Are you sure this is a valid site?Pete
> 


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RE: CS>

[Yogiboy]

Or was it this one you are referring too? www.biophysica.com
 
Referring to Colloidal silver?
 
-Original Message-
From: panamp...@aol.com [mailto:panamp...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>
 
Ernie, I am unable to pull up the web site you show on your post?!
Are you sure this is a valid site?Pete

CS>How to combat CODEX

[Nenah Sylver]

> This is very important!  It has already happened in Europe!!!
> 
> If we do not TAKE ACTION to prevent this travesty here, by alerting our 
> legislators, friends etc. we will have only ourselves to blame if CODEX is 
> approved in the U.S. (please read the short article for details and for the 
> way to contact your representives)
> 
> Please do all you can to see that our rights to buy supplements is not 
> unduly restricted.  Thank you in advace for forwarding this email to 
> everyone in you address book.
> 
> 
> from: Health Sciences Institute e-Alert
> December 01, 2004
> 
> Dear Reader,
> 
> In the days and weeks before a major earthquake, seismologists
> often record tremors -subterranean rumbles, signaling that
> something destructive is on the way.
> 
> Consider today's e-Alert a tremor.
> 
> Something very destructive is headed our way, and it will have a
> deeply negative impact on your right to make your own healthcare
> decisions.
> 
> 
> Dreaming up dangers
> 
> 
> In the e-Alert I sent you on Friday, 11/19/04, I shared this
> comment from an HSI member who goes by the initials PKL: "My
> friend, an ND, said 2 years ago that as the date for the USA to
> comply with codex alimentarius rules approached (Aug.2005) we
> would see scare stories coming out in the media about the
> 'dangers' of common vitamins and supplements."
> 
> PKL's friend felt the tremors coming. And his prediction was right
> on the money. In recent e-Alerts I told you about two flawed
> studies that produced over-the-top scare headlines regarding the
> supposed risks of taking vitamins C and E in large doses. But these
> studies are not isolated cases.
> 
> For instance, a recent "long-term study" found that glucosamine
> was less effective than a placebo in relieving arthritis pain. But a
> closer look at the published research reveals that the actual study
> period was only six months long, and all of the subjects had
> previously found glucosamine to be effective over a two-year
> period. (The researchers were counting those two years as part of
> the "long-term".) Nevertheless, this research was reported as a
> failure for glucosamine.
> 
> Is the timing of these and other deliberately negative studies a
> coincidence? Or is it part of a concerted effort to plant the seeds of
> doubt in the mind of the public?
> 
> 
> Harsh harmony
> 
> 
> As PKL pointed out, the whole point of planting those seeds is to
> prepare for the approaching Codex deadline.
> 
> The U.S. is one of the 165 member countries of the Codex
> Alimentarius Commission - an international food standards
> program created by the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
> and the World Health Organization (WHO). One of the purposes
> of the Codex Commission is to "harmonize" international food
> trade. And here are a few key elements of that harmonizing:
> 
> * WHO classifies all dietary supplements as drugs
> * The Codex Commission intends to limit over-the-counter sales of
>   dietary supplements while reclassifying others as
>   pharmaceuticals, available only through a pharmacist
> * Under World Trade Organization (WTO) rules, Codex guidelines
>   override the regulations of individual countries
> * Member countries (including the U.S.) that refuse to accept and
>   enforce the WTO directives are subject to severe trade sanctions
> 
> A strong tremor was felt just last month when the Codex
> Commission approved draft guidelines that will begin restricting
> the sale of dietary supplements as early as next summer. So in spite
> of our current laws that make a wide range of vitamins, minerals
> and herbal formulations readily available, the U.S. is poised to
> simply put those laws aside to conform to the unacceptably
> restrictive Codex guidelines.
> 
> 
> Whose country is it anyway?
> 
> 
> Incredible, isn't it? Our freedom to make our own healthcare
> choices may simply be taken away by an international commission.
> But at this point, the imposition of the Codex guidelines isn't
> necessarily a done deal. And although the situation is not
> promising, it's still not too late to help prevent it from happening.
> 
> I strongly urge you to join me in taking a moment to send a brief
> letter or e-mail to your Senators and Representatives. (You can
> easily find Congressional street addresses and e-mail addresses at
> congress.org just by entering your zip code. We've heard that snail
> mail gets more attention from our public servants than e-mail.)
> 
> (Note by Dave: If you can't write hard copy mail here's a site you can 
> access to get you representative's and

RE: CS>

[David]

Interesting info about the author of the book Kevin
Trudeau

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/09/trudeaucoral.htm


--- Yogiboy  wrote:

> Pete, I'm sorry maybe this is better.
> www.naturalcures.com
>  
>  
> Just to let you know, that book is a great read, the
> information may be
> something you are probably most painfully aware of
> already. As for
> becoming a member? I find this rather pricey.
>  
> Thanks Ernie
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: panamp...@aol.com [mailto:panamp...@aol.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:22 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>
>  
> Ernie, I am unable to pull up the web site you show
> on your post?!
> Are you sure this is a valid site?Pete
> 


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RE: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

[Yogiboy]

What's next? How about an underground homeopathic society. That is
hidden from an underground policing society run by the
pharmaceuticals..I never thought 1984 would become reality. One world
order?

-Original Message-
From: cmccau...@kayescholer.com [mailto:cmccau...@kayescholer.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.


In a nutshell, Codex is:
 

 

 

 To assure the continuation of the billion dollar pharmaceutical market,
the German
 and international pharmaceutical corporations have formed a worldwide
cartel. They
 gave this cartel the Latin name "Codex Alimentarius." The purpose of
this Codex   
 cartel is to bring about international legislation that bans the
distribution of  
 lifesaving health information in relation to vitamins.

 

 Reference: http://www.drrathresearch.org/about_drrath/chemnitz06.html

 

 



Wow. What's next?

IMHO, of course.
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RE: CS>FDA Raid in Santa Fe New Mexico is Jive

[Yogiboy]

This sort of action is something that isn't publicized. Usually second
hand info leaking out. FDA doesn't want u to know because the don't
operate under normal protocol. There are no rules or regulations avail.
until someone steps on FDA toes. Then all hell breaks loose.
 
-Original Message-
From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:30 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>FDA Raid in Santa Fe New Mexico is Jive
 
I called  two major markets in Santa Fe this morning that carry a wide
range of CS products at 8:28 MDT; Whole Foods, and The Market Place.
They know nothing of any FDA actions in area.

RE: CS>

[Yogiboy]

Pete, I'm sorry maybe this is better. www.naturalcures.com
 
 
Just to let you know, that book is a great read, the information may be
something you are probably most painfully aware of already. As for
becoming a member? I find this rather pricey.
 
Thanks Ernie
 
-Original Message-
From: panamp...@aol.com [mailto:panamp...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>
 
Ernie, I am unable to pull up the web site you show on your post?!
Are you sure this is a valid site?Pete

CS>What is Codex? In a nutshell.

[cmccauley]

In a nutshell, Codex is:

   

   

   
 To assure the continuation of the billion dollar pharmaceutical market, the 
German
 and international pharmaceutical corporations have formed a worldwide cartel. 
They
 gave this cartel the Latin name "Codex Alimentarius." The purpose of this 
Codex   
 cartel is to bring about international legislation that bans the distribution 
of  
 lifesaving health information in relation to vitamins. 
   

   
 Reference: http://www.drrathresearch.org/about_drrath/chemnitz06.html  
   

   

   


Wow. What's next?

IMHO, of course.
Christine Mc.


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Re: CS>Avoiding getting on medical databases

[fg227]

Misspelling your real name and inserting a middle name (or middle initial)
you don't have can help. Probably misspelling the last name is the most
crucial.


D









- Original Message -
From: "Teri Johnston" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Avoiding getting on medical databases


>
>
> At 10:35 AM 12/1/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any clever ideas on how to remain invisible to the
medical
> >powers that be?  I have not spoken to this doctor's office yet. Yet I
would
> >like to remain off medical databases. I will pay in cash. Should I lie
about
> >my name and SS number?
> >
> I use my real name but a fake S.S. and pay in cash at my doctor's office
in
> the hopes of avoiding this. Just be sure to write down the number you use
> as if you are sent out for tests you want the same number.
>
> Teri
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CS>FDA Raid in Santa Fe New Mexico is Jive

[Trem]

Hi Jim,

I spoke with the Doctor again.  She had recommended some patients get a nasal 
spray bottle of CS.  They reported back to her they had been removed from the 
shelves.  She tells me that the FDA contacted Whole Foods and asked them to 
remove the nasal spray bottles of CS.  She said that request was complied with 
but that regular CS was not removed from the shelves.  

The Vitamin Cottage was also contacted by the FDA and said they had studies 
showing CS caused skin conditions so they apparently decided to remove all CS 
from shelves.  I haven't checked for veracity but am trying.

If you care to, try calling Whole Foods again and see about the nasal spray 
bottles.  Thanks.

Trem
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  From: Jim Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:30 AM
  Subject: CS>FDA Raid in Santa Fe New Mexico is Jive


  I called  two major markets in Santa Fe this morning that carry a wide range 
of CS products at 8:28 MDT; Whole Foods, and The Market Place.  They know 
nothing of any FDA actions in area.


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Re: CS>Avoiding getting on medical databases

[Teri Johnston]

At 10:35 AM 12/1/2004 -0500, you wrote:


Does anyone have any clever ideas on how to remain invisible to the medical
powers that be?  I have not spoken to this doctor's office yet. Yet I would
like to remain off medical databases. I will pay in cash. Should I lie about
my name and SS number?

I use my real name but a fake S.S. and pay in cash at my doctor's office in 
the hopes of avoiding this. Just be sure to write down the number you use 
as if you are sent out for tests you want the same number.


Teri
Fireside Welsh Springer Spaniels
www.welshspringers.com
Fastrack® Distributor 



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Re: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[Lea Ann]

Hi Trem,

What is the Codex?

I am terrified of the possibility of loosing the option to purchase natural 
supplements.

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: Trem 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:51 AM
  Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico


  Hi Bob,

  I think the Codex will be the final event that takes all our personal rights 
to choose supplements away from us.  Sounds as though CS will be outlawed too.

  Trem

CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[Trem]

Hi Bob,

I think the Codex will be the final event that takes all our personal rights to 
choose supplements away from us.  Sounds as though CS will be outlawed too.

Trem
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  From: bbanever 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:39 PM
  Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico


  Trem,

  If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and shut 
down any and all food supplement industries eventually.  Notice how negative 
press is slowly creeping its way into the media about such things as Vitamin C. 
 Soon, all of our natural alternative remedies will be available by 
prescription only... or not at all.  God help us

  Bob


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CS>Avoiding getting on medical databases

[fg227]

Does anyone have any clever ideas on how to remain invisible to the medical
powers that be?  I have not spoken to this doctor's office yet. Yet I would
like to remain off medical databases. I will pay in cash. Should I lie about
my name and SS number?

I think this important because I see very intrusive medical databases in the
future that can really hurt you as far as getting jobs, credit, insurance.
The future will bring less and less medical privacy. Future spouses and
business partners might even hire investigators to illicitly tap into these
databases.

Dan



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RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[Jim Holmes]

A few years ago some Brit Docs said Vit  C could cause cancer, in
therapeutic dosages.  

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

 

Trem,

 

If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and shut
down any and all food supplement industries eventually.  Notice how negative
press is slowly creeping its way into the media about such things as Vitamin
C.  Soon, all of our natural alternative remedies will be available by
prescription only... or not at all.  God help us

 

Bob

RE: CS>A good nebulizer for CS

[Jim Holmes]

"O2 concentrator would build up to 20 PSI??"

Probably not.  I know little of them.  You would probably need a pump.

JOH

-Original Message-
From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS

I have an O2 concentrator. Are you saying I can run this Harbor Freight
airbrush off of it? I thought it would harm the concentrator's compressor. I
already have the HF airbrush.

 I'm thinking I can do this with a diversion relief valve that I tighten
when I want O2 fed under pressure to the airbrush for a few seconds. A few
seconds strain should not harm the concentrator's compressor???

I have an AirSep concentrator. The lowest flow rate it goes at 1.5 liters
per minute. Otherwise it shuts down.

> configured, when attached to a standard welders O2 regulator or medical
> regulator set to about 20 PSI, to make a finer particle than the best

O2 concentrator would build up to 20 PSI??


Dan





- Original Message -
From: "Jim Holmes" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: CS>A good nebulizer for CS


> Other than having a ferrous top in the glass liquid container, the unit is
> well-made, mostly of brass.  Yes, some of the small parts are a bit less
> than hi-tech, they do the job.  I have used one for years without breaking
> anything.
>
> They sell for about 8 Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Devices, but I have
> seen them on sale for about 5.
>
> No electricity required...
>
> Can be run on an oxygen generator without having an outside source of
> bottled O2.
>
> That's why.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:17 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
>
> Brooks Bradley's research team at the Harborne Foundation determined with
> clinical experience that CS dispersed in 02, ---a colloid within a
> colloid---was significantly more effective than the CS alone.  DMSO is a
> further improvement, particularly when a lot of fluid or mucus is a
factor.
>
>
> They also determined that a Harbor Freight Taiwan artist's airbrush could
be
> configured, when attached to a standard welders O2 regulator or medical
> regulator set to about 20 PSI, to make a finer particle than the best
> medical nebulizers.  Held about 1.5 inches from the hand, no spray is seen
> being emitted from the nozzle, but your hand gets wet.
>
> There is no intent to blast the aerosol into your system or lungs; it is
> nly a method of making a very fine-particle suspension available for
normal
> inspiration.  Air may be used if it is absolutely clean.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: fg227 [mailto:fig...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:07 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
>
> >
> > Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer,
>
> Why is that? Because the airbrush shoots the CS/DMSO/MSM mist deep into
the
> lungs? Why is oxygen better than compressed air to use in this airbrush
set
> up?
>
> >but each of these
> > nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> __
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
>
>
> > Hi Christine:
> >
> > I'll agree that the Omron CompAir Elite is a good unit.  I have one.
> >
> > I would prefer the Omron Ultrasonic, but at the time of my own purchase,
I
> > didn't want to afford to the more expensive unit.
> >
> > The ultrasonic unit produces a finer mist, but is roughly $60-100 more
> > expensive.
> >
> > Neither compares to the Brooks-Bradley oxygen nebulizer, but each of
these
> > nebulizing ideas WORKS, and that is, in the end, what counts!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:24 AM
> > Subject: CS>A good nebulizer for CS
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thought I would share this with you all.  I use the OMROM CompAir
Elite
> > > nebulizer with my CS and it works wonderfully.  I've used it on myself
> and
> > > my birds and have only good things to say about it.  It is very small,
> > > portable, relatively quiet and easy to use.  It has adapters for the
car
> > > and can be used with both AC and DC I think.
> > >
> > > Here's a link to show you what it looks like:
> > >
> > > http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm
> > >
> > > I did not get mine here.  This site was from a random websearch.  I
just
> > > picked with site because it has a decent picture and good explanation
of
> > > the nebulizer's features.
> > >
> > > I bought mine brand new on Ebay for $50.00, shipping included.
> > >
> > > Just thought this might help whomever was thinking about delivering CS
> > with
> > > a nebulizer.
> > >
> > > In my humble opinion, of course.
> > >
> > > Christi

CS>FDA Raid in Santa Fe New Mexico is Jive

[Jim Holmes]

I called  two major markets in Santa Fe this morning that carry a wide range
of CS products at 8:28 MDT; Whole Foods, and The Market Place.  They know
nothing of any FDA actions in area.

Re: CS>

[PanAmPete]

Ernie, I am unable to pull up the web site you show on your post?!
Are you sure this is a valid site? Pete

CS>

[Yogiboy]

 
 
 
Hi Ken,
> 
> I want to ask a big favour.
> I am acquainted with a Scientist who has produced CS generators.
> 
> Here is his website: www.biopysica.com 
> 
> While researching, I was also steered towards yours by a homeopathic 
> doctor, who recommended your product because it is economical, and 
> from her claim differs in no way to other products much more costly. I

> have a sister who is ill and was suggested to me to purchase a CS 
> generator.
> 
> I would like to kindly ask you to review the products at the above 
> mentioned website as well as the validity of the information and 
> testing presented.
> 
> It would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Many thanks..
> 
> Ernie
> 
 

CS>

[Yogiboy]

Hi Ken,
> 
> I want to ask a big favour.
> I am acquainted with a Scientist who has produced CS generators.
> 
> Here is his website: www.biopysica.com 
> 
> While researching, I was also steered towards yours by a homeopathic 
> doctor, who recommended your product because it is economical, and 
> from her claim differs in no way to other products much more costly. I

> have a sister who is ill and was suggested to me to purchase a CS 
> generator.
> 
> I would like to kindly ask you to review the products at the above 
> mentioned website as well as the validity of the information and 
> testing presented.
> 
> It would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Many thanks..
> 
> Ernie
> 
 

CS>Interesting article and site

[J&S Campbell]

  This is an interesting article and Dr Rath's site on nutritional medicine is 
well worth a visit. 
BW,
Sheila

 
Newsletter

Cellular Medicine/ Alternative Therapies

  Cancer-Enabling Enzyme Can Be Blocked Naturally

Danish Research Confirms Cancer Breakthrough Approach by Matthias Rath, M.D.

FREMONT, CA., Nov. 29

A discovery made by Dr. Matthias Rath on how nutrient synergy can halt the
cascading series of events that lead to the metastasis of cancer has been 
recently
confirmed by Research done at Copenhagen University and published in the
International Journal of Cancer.

The Danish study found that the lack of the enzyme urokinase plasminogen 
activator
(uPA) can stop  the spread of cancer, as shown in mice genetically modified to 
not
have the enzyme. The absence of uPA prevents the ability of cancer cells to 
dissolve
collagen and metastasize to other parts of the body, but today there are no
pharmaceutical solutions to block uPA.

Dr. Matthias Rath's research shows that blocking this enzyme can be achieved
naturally. In 1992, Dr. Rath published research suggesting the use of amino acid
lysine as a natural inhibitor of plasmin and other enzymes (matrix
metalloproteinases) involved in collagen digestion. Recently, Dr. Rath and his 
team
of researchers at the Matthias Rath Research Institute in Cellular Medicine, 
Santa
Clara, CA have identified a specific combination of nutrients that can inhibit 
the
activity of collagen dissolving enzymes and stop the spread of cancer cells. Dr.
Rath's research shows that Vitamin C, the amino acids L-lysine and L-proline, 
and a
green tea extract known as Epigallocatechin Gallate (EGCG) work together to
synergistically block the spread of cancer cells through connective tissue. In
addition, this specific nutrient synergy can reduce new blood vessel formation,
which supplies blood to tumors (angiogenesis), inhibit cancer cell replication, 
and
induce a natural "suicide" c ycle in cancer cells (apoptosis).

"The most effective way to control cancer is by attacking cancer simultaneously 
in
all four ways it threatens health: its spread, growth, lifespan and survival" 
says,
Dr. Rath.

Dr. Rath's research, published in scientific journals and presented at many
scientific conferences, points the way to a new era in the natural control of
cancer, which is both more effective and safer than pharmaceutical methods.

For more information on Dr. Rath's research, go to http://www.drrathresearch.org



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RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[Yogiboy]

Hello,
 
Although I might add that I haven't had much exposure to the
pharmaceuticals I have read enough to realize they have a monopoly on
health care and trying to squash every possible iota of information
available to the public. I also know there are activitist, for lack of
better word who are fighting the system to make sure the information
doesn't stay underground.
 
I recently bought a book called: Natural Cures "THEY" don't want you to
know about. Author: Keven Trudeau.
There is a website which require subscription and I might ad is somewhat
pricey. Although I haven't signed up I have read the book. I suppose
someone that wants to find out any natural cure at a one stop shopping
site this might be a valuable investment. He had pledged to become one
of the biggest consumer advocates for not only personal reasons but also
for the betterment of human kind.
 
Please note: I am not promoting this book nor website. I am merely
trying to bring awareness and information to help people recognize that
people are fighting the unjust system. 
Please feel free to respond.
 
Sincerely.Ernie
 
-Original Message-
From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico
 
Unfortunately this is probably true.  Last month the FDA raided Sea
Silver and removed over 100,000 bottles of product and all their files.
In August 2005 a new law will come into effect which will make all of
our nightmares come true..  I guess the Doctors and Pharmaceutical
companies feel they are losing a lot of money by people using
alternative medicine.
 
I hate the thought of only being able to purchase Vitamin C in a 50 mg
tablet.and etc.
 
  _  

From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico
 
Trem,
 
If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and
shut down any and all food supplement industries eventually.  Notice how
negative press is slowly creeping its way into the media about such
things as Vitamin C.  Soon, all of our natural alternative remedies will
be available by prescription only... or not at all.  God help us
 
Bob

RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[David W Kenney]

Unfortunately this is probably true.  Last month the FDA raided Sea Silver
and removed over 100,000 bottles of product and all their files.

In August 2005 a new law will come into effect which will make all of our
nightmares come true..  I guess the Doctors and Pharmaceutical companies
feel they are losing a lot of money by people using alternative medicine.

 

I hate the thought of only being able to purchase Vitamin C in a 50 mg
tablet.and etc.

 

  _  

From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

 

Trem,

 

If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and shut
down any and all food supplement industries eventually.  Notice how negative
press is slowly creeping its way into the media about such things as Vitamin
C.  Soon, all of our natural alternative remedies will be available by
prescription only... or not at all.  God help us

 

Bob

CS>Aspartame

[David]

Here is some good info on Aspartame for those of you
interested.

http://www.mercola.com/forms/sweet_misery.htm

David


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Re: CS>CS good & bad stomach bacteria

[himagain]

At 04:59 PM 30/11/04, Garnet wrote:


Maggots are still used to clean infected wounds, here in the US.

Garnet

Hi Garnet & folks,
Just in the interests of accuracy:   "Maggots have *begun* to be used in 
the USA recently."
Causing quite a lot of agony in the PharmaMedbiz still, according to 
proponents..   a real problem - they work..


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