Re: CSRe: Re: CSChelation for lead

2005-06-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Worth noting also that it is possible to avoid the fumes if careful 
precautions are taken,  but often they are not, and the welders 
themselves may not be aware of the enormous risks.  I am no expert 
on this, but I have seen welding up close often enough, and I have not 
seen respirators in use.   The full-face protective masks are not 
intended to prevent inhalation of toxic fumes.


In the spirit of preventive education, someone on the list may have 
some tips . . . .  I remember the fumes in junior-high industrial arts 
class -- simple brazing and hot-iron welding -- were pretty strong, but 
we had no protection. . . .





On Thursday, Jun 16, 2005, at 14:35 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten 
wrote:



Live and learn, all of us.

NB the McDonalds mass killer, James Oliver Huberty, had been a welder; 
 post-mortem study reportedly found absolutely incomprehensible level 
of heavy-metals, including cadmium, in his brain. One hypothesis 
is that the man had become deranged from this toxicity. The full 
report is on the Internet somewhere.





On Thursday, Jun 16, 2005, at 12:20 Asia/Tokyo, 
noblemet...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Breathing fumes (thru a mask) while melting and pouring lead diver's 
weights.  stupid--stupid---


From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
Date: 2005/06/15 Wed PM 11:07:05 EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSChelation for lead

I read a medical abstract about a NY man who had large lead deposits 
in
his brain as a result of drinking from some imported ceramic cups 
with
lead glaze;  a similar case occurred in an entire family:  their 
daily

orange juice was served from a lead-glazed pitcher.

Lead poisoning is not so common these days;  learning what happened 
in

your case might help someone avoid a similar problem.






On Thursday, Jun 16, 2005, at 12:00 Asia/Tokyo, T J Garland wrote:


I had lead poisoning in 1999 and almost died. I did oral chelation
with EDTA
til it was flushed out.
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: CSChelation for lead



As well as lead and aluminum.

You might find this interesting:

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~jedcline/cilantro.html

Marshall

Jonathan B. Britten wrote:


Y. Omura, M.D., has convincing data to show that Chinese Parsely

(cilantro) effective chelates mercury from the body.


This method is cheap, easy, and delicious: eat cilantro. Make 
pesta!


Google cilantro and mercury or something like that and you will
find

lots of information.


JBB

On Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005, at 00:05 Asia/Tokyo, Theresa Widmer
wrote:

 Hello all-
   A friend of mine has a son with Aspergers syndrome.  [It's 
on

the

autism spectrum] She has seen a doctor who handles this with
alternative
methods and has just gotten the test results back.  They showed that
her son
is high in lead.  [He is adopted from China--it's common, the doctor
said
for babies there to be exposed more to lead more so than in the 
U.S.]

So
they are recommending EDTA therapy for him.  I noted Charles has 
some
experience with this therapy.  Any more knowledge of the subject 
would

be
wonderful.  Her boy, Will, is 9 and she is very concerned that she
know all
the things she should be doing to keep him safe and feeling alright
during
the process.  Thanks in advance!


 Theresa
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CSRe: Re: CSChelation for lead

2005-06-16 Thread Dan Nave
I looked into some of this previously as I do a lot of soldering and was
concerned with potential lead fumes from soldering fumes.  

The MSDS indicated that lead was not vaporized until the temperature
reached 1,000 degrees F.  As most electronic soldering is done at
temperatures of around 650 to 850 degrees with a controlled heat
soldering gun or solder pot, this type of soldering should be safe with
respect to fumes.  The flux fumes, however, can cause a sensitization
reaction.

For  soldering or melting processes using uncontrolled heating methods,
if the temperature goes over 1000 degrees F. there would be the
possibility of releasing lead vapor fumes.  

There is also the possibility of ingesting lead through hand contact,
eating/smoking, and breathing lead dusts.  It is very advisable to wash
one's hands before eating after handling stuff.

In the plant where I work, they do a lot of welding on steel of the
type with some quantity of lead in it so as to improve it's qualities
for bending and shaping.  The fumes from this are allowed to escape
freely into the general building atmosphere and we no doubt breathe a
quantity of it.  It is particularly bad in the winter when the place is
closed up to conserve heat.  

Sometimes one almost hopes there is actually a Hell where people who do
these sorts of things to other people can reap their rewards...

(sigh) - quoted from M. Devour...

Dan



CSRe: Re: CSChelation for lead

From: noblemetals (view other messages by this author) 
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:23:20 



Breathing fumes (thru a mask) while melting and pouring lead diver's
weights.  stupid--stupid---
 
 From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
 Date: 2005/06/15 Wed PM 11:07:05 EDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Subject: Re: CSChelation for lead
 
 I read a medical abstract about a NY man who had large lead deposits
in 
 his brain as a result of drinking from some imported ceramic cups
with 
 lead glaze;  a similar case occurred in an entire family:  their
daily 
 orange juice was served from a lead-glazed pitcher.
 
 Lead poisoning is not so common these days;  learning what happened
in 
 your case might help someone avoid a similar problem.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thursday, Jun 16, 2005, at 12:00 Asia/Tokyo, T J Garland wrote:
 
  I had lead poisoning in 1999 and almost died. I did oral chelation

  with EDTA
  til it was flushed out.



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Re: CS

2005-06-16 Thread cmccauley

Hi.   In the post about making the CS using the mini fan stirrer:

i noted when i made cs using  low speed stirring a cloudy solution
occured
after 10 minute.

when i made cs using high speed stirring i could not observe the the
cloudiness or any tyndell effect at all even after 45 minutes!!!

I did not see anywhere in the text where the person used distilled water.
I would think it would make a difference in the outcome is you used regular
water or distilled water, right?   Stirring or not.  Regular water would
make a cloudy cs solution within the 10 minutes.   Distilled water brewing
would take much longer than 10 minutes for any change.   I've only made
cloudy CS using regular water.  Never with distilled unless I let it run
away overnight.   Then had mud.

i used a minifan with the fan removed and replaced by a q tip tube or a
used
pen ink tube (empty) with a diameter of about 2 mm with the motor spindle
inserted in it.

Also, even if the person used distilled water,  could there have been
contamination of the water by the fan stirring rod?

Just an observation.

Christine Mc.


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CSmetal chelation

2005-06-16 Thread Betsy Coffey
There has been some wonderful information being shared
about alot of different things. I am a frequent
visitor on another forum. There is alot of mention
about metal chelating. It has been discussed on this
forum, that when using  cilantrol, you should also use
something to carry the metal out of the body after it
is pulled from the tissues. One suggestion is using
chorella to help the metal pass thru instead of being
re- absorbed by the body. I dont have an opinon either
way becaue I dont know, I am just passing on what I
have heard.



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CScoconut oil

2005-06-16 Thread Betsy Coffey
I just had a comment on EVCO. I have tried to use this
product on several occasions. It seems to cause
extreme brain fog and also speeds up my heart. I cant
tell if this is an allergic reaction,yeast die off, or
the fact that it is known to increase metabolism. I
wish I could use it but those side effects arent worth
it to me. I love the taste thou



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Re: CSmetal chelation

2005-06-16 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
There are so many differing opinions:) I was told by
an alt dentist not to use cilantro until the body
burden of merc has been dealt with as it will cross
the blood/brain barrier and can take merc into your
brain. I read that chlorella is not reliable, it would
uptake merc but not necessarily keep ahold of it?? and
you might reabsorb it that way.

--- Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 There has been some wonderful information being
 shared
 about alot of different things. I am a frequent
 visitor on another forum. There is alot of mention
 about metal chelating. It has been discussed on this
 forum, that when using  cilantrol, you should also
 use
 something to carry the metal out of the body after
 it
 is pulled from the tissues. One suggestion is using
 chorella to help the metal pass thru instead of
 being
 re- absorbed by the body. I dont have an opinon
 either
 way becaue I dont know, I am just passing on what I
 have heard.


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Re: CSreply

2005-06-16 Thread VEGANEXUS256
In a message dated 16/06/2005 16:08:16 GMT Daylight Time, 
cmccau...@kayescholer.com writes:

hi
all the conditions were indentical in both experiments.
no distilled water was used.
only differencewas the fan speed.

no contamination occurred from the plastic tube

i urge you to repeat the experiment.
 Subj: Re: CS
 Date:  16/06/2005 16:08:16 GMT Daylight Time
 From:  cmccau...@kayescholer.com
 Reply-to:  A HREF=mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com;silver-list@eskimo.com/A
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 
 Hi.   In the post about making the CS using the mini fan stirrer:
 
 i noted when i made cs using  low speed stirring a cloudy solution
 occured
 after 10 minute.
 
 when i made cs using high speed stirring i could not observe the the
 cloudiness or any tyndell effect at all even after 45 minutes!!!
 
 I did not see anywhere in the text where the person used distilled water.
 I would think it would make a difference in the outcome is you used regular
 water or distilled water, right?   Stirring or not.  Regular water would
 make a cloudy cs solution within the 10 minutes.   Distilled water brewing
 would take much longer than 10 minutes for any change.   I've only made
 cloudy CS using regular water.  Never with distilled unless I let it run
 away overnight.   Then had mud.
 
 i used a minifan with the fan removed and replaced by a q tip tube or a
 used
 pen ink tube (empty) with a diameter of about 2 mm with the motor spindle
 inserted in it.
 
 Also, even if the person used distilled water,  could there have been
 contamination of the water by the fan stirring rod?
 
 Just an observation.
 
 Christine Mc.
 
 
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CSHere's a group fighting

2005-06-16 Thread Judydownmaine
possible loss of supplements for seniors.
Might interest some of you.

http://www.seniorcongress.org/

Judy Down Maine



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