CSTart Red Cherry Juice

2005-10-20 Thread Bruce Anderson

THANK YOU for all the replys and help!

This is a greate group.

Bruce A


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Re: CSSwitzerland, sale of colloidal silver made illegal

2005-10-20 Thread Rowena
Isn't Switzerland the home of some fairly Important pharmaceutical 
companies?  I had dealings some ten years ago with someone who had bought 
the company I wanted to do business with.  He mentioned in conversation that 
he had been high up in a Swiss pharmaceutical company, but left because of 
the ethics and looked for another business to be in.  When I casually 
returned to the subject later to find out what he hadn't liked about the 
company, he looked startled and clammed right up.

Rowena 


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RE: CSeye twitching

2005-10-20 Thread Joni Lovegrove
I had eye twitching, numbness, electrical vibration sensations,  and many 
other neurological symptoms, a very good doctor finally ran the right tests 
and found I had a form of anemia that did not allow my body to absorb 
vitamin B12, I take injections every 2 weeks.  I have no more eye twitching, 
numbness, etc.


Joni Lovegrove

htmldivPJoni Lovegrove/P/div/html



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSeye twitching
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:29:22 -0700 (PDT)

I have heard that this can also be from a vitamin B
deficiency. Magnesium probably was helpful as it is a
muscle relaxer. Someone mentioned parasites and
babesia. Isnt babesia a parasite?




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Re: CSeye twitching, parasites and CS

2005-10-20 Thread Dan Nave
Has anyone tried these lyme cures at

 http://www.www-lymedisease.com/

?

Dan



 Gail Evans gailev...@cox.net 10/19/2005 10:53:48 AM 
Wendy,

Do you have any other symptoms? Eye twitching is a common symtom of
babesia which is a co-infection of lyme disease. You can go to
www.lymenet.org on their discussion board for detailed information
about the symptoms and treatment of the various lyme bugs.

Some people use CS in their treatment of lyme, but it is not known to
be a widespread treatment protocol.

GE
gailev...@cox.net 
www.expertembroidery.com 
www.livingnow.net/gevans 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Wendy 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:26 PM
  Subject: RE: CSeye twitching, parasites and CS


  Is it possible that eye twitching means 'parasites'?? I thought I had
read that before.  Would CS sprayed or dropped in the eyes have any
affect on that or would one still need to do the standard parasite
cleanse etc. ?

   

  Wendy


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CS5 Second Rule

2005-10-20 Thread Marshall Dudley
The restraurants around here have what they call the 5 second rule.
That is, anything dropped on the floor is ok to put back on the plate if
it is on the floor for less than 5 seconds.  Last night Myth Busters
tested that and found this to be total hogwash, there was no difference
in the huge amount of bacteria and molds picked up when food is dropped
on the floor between 2 seconds and 6 seconds.

Marshall



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CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint

2005-10-20 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Here are some interesting sites about bird flu -
alternative viewpoint:

http://www.threeworldwars.com/news/bird-flu.htm

http://www.newstarget.com/006195.html

Mercola’s input:
http://www.newstarget.com/012187.html







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CSCS Confusion

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Berger
Greetings all,
 
The holy Grail of science, The International Union of Pure and Applied 
Chemistry, defines an ion as An atomic of molecular particle having a net 
electrical charge. to me this definition rather muddles the water.
 
So people can call ions particles and particles, particles  How are we to 
know what they have?
 
|The silver solutions that we make with electrolysis is is generally 90% silver 
ions (Ag+1) and it is water soluble. Particles will fall out of suspension if 
the liquid is frozen.
 
So, we should break ourselves of calling our product colloidal silver as it 
is NOT !!
 
How about Silver sol, silver Hydrosol, EIS, or Silver Hydronium !!!
 
Ole Bob
 
 



Re: CSCS Confusion

2005-10-20 Thread Jason E

Hi Bob!

Hydronium is H30. Where are we getting the extra molecule of Hydrogen?

Kind Regards,

Jason

Robert Berger wrote:

Greetings all,
 
The holy Grail of science, The International Union of Pure and Applied 
Chemistry, defines an ion as An atomic of molecular particle having a 
net electrical charge. to me this definition rather muddles the water.
 
So people can call ions particles and particles, particles  How are 
we to know what they have?
 
|The silver solutions that we make with electrolysis is is generally 90% 
silver ions (Ag+1) and it is water soluble. Particles will fall out of 
suspension if the liquid is frozen.
 
So, we should break ourselves of calling our product colloidal silver 
as it is NOT !!
 
How about Silver sol, silver Hydrosol, EIS, or Silver Hydronium !!!
 
Ole Bob
 
 



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Re: CSSwitzerland, sale of colloidal silver made illegal

2005-10-20 Thread l
possibly this is referring to some zappers (with the capability of using
it to produce cs ) wich where banned by the swiss medical administration
because of medical claims made in public (ie internet)...but otherwise you
can walk into any bank or bouillon dealer and buy any quantity of silver you
'd  want. laurenz


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Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Bob - this sounds very interesting - how do you get the start up
pH
reading as high as 8 - I have a 10 gallon tank, as well as some 1 gallon
tanks.
What creates the speed, the power of the microwave powersupply or the pH.
Regards
Sandee

The one who accomplished it is the one
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CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Berger
Greetings,
 
How would you like to make silver solution at the rate of  one gallon of 12 PPM 
in 5 to 6  minutes depending of the initial conductance. The pH is greater that 
8.
 
My new flow thru system using a microwave power supply and my two gallon fish 
tank makes 2 gallon in 10 to 12 minutes.
 
The unit will fit in ANY size tank !!
 
Ole Bob


Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Berger 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:08 PM
Subject: CSContinous flow thru


Greetings,

How would you like to make silver solution at the rate of  one gallon of 12 PPM 
in 5 to 6  minutes depending of the initial conductance. The pH is greater that 
8.

My new flow thru system using a microwave power supply and my two gallon fish 
tank makes 2 gallon in 10 to 12 minutes.

The unit will fit in ANY size tank !!

Ole Bob
==
Wow, Ole Bob, please tell us more about it. I am especially interested in how 
you got the pH to be so high. 

I do feel uneasy about the microwave power supply and wonder how that works.

Thanks.
Nenah

CSReflexology: Web site now under official name!

2005-10-20 Thread Faith Saint Francis
To my Friends on this forum, and those interested in, or in need of self 
treatment and a little knowledge about this Art of Healing that Reflexology 
is:


Our web site is now officially placed with a server, and but for a few minor 
probs (which we are working on) it is ready to be read and studied.


Browse
http://healinhands.org
(yes indeed, without that g after healin)

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CSHealing Hands now at official server

2005-10-20 Thread faithstfrancis
Our cordial greetings go to everyone who has in the past shown interest in, 
or the necessity of Reflexology.


We hereby would like to introduce our site on Relfexology officially, for it 
is now placed as


http://healinhands.org (and yes, without that g after healin )

We hope with this web site to add a little to the need of alternative 
treatments, as they are so often sought for.


Kind regards from
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Re: CSCS Confusion

2005-10-20 Thread Rich Adams

From previous Ole Bob email:


It was Dr. Bill Biagiolio and a chenist freind of his that determined the 
formula for the silver solution that we make is H6O3Ag+1, and could well be 
called silver hydronium.



If that helps...

Rich Adams


- Original Message - 



Hydronium is H30. Where are we getting the extra molecule of Hydrogen?



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Re: CS5 Second Rule

2005-10-20 Thread Lea Ann

Marshal this is pricelessly funny!

I have 3 young boys (ages 3, 7 and 10)  With my first I used the 5 second 
rule, with my second I used the 5 minute rule, with my youngest I use 
the, if there's no visible mold or particles that can't easily be flicked 
off it's o.k. rule... LOL


Blessings,
Lea Ann

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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: CS5 Second Rule



The restraurants around here have what they call the 5 second rule.
That is, anything dropped on the floor is ok to put back on the plate if
it is on the floor for less than 5 seconds.  Last night Myth Busters
tested that and found this to be total hogwash, there was no difference
in the huge amount of bacteria and molds picked up when food is dropped
on the floor between 2 seconds and 6 seconds.

Marshall 



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Re: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint

2005-10-20 Thread Lea Ann

Hello Terry,

This article on Mercola's input is interesting to me because it indicates 
that thimerisol was indeed outlawed (I thought it had been but then I 
wasn't sure if it was just childhood vaccines or all vaccines).


I still can't get over the poster at my local grocery store with the 
disclaimer that people who have allergies to thimerosol should not take 
the shot.


Interesting articles.  I completely agree with newstarget that we must 
assume full responsibility for prevention and if necessary treatment.  I 
have NO trust in doctors.  I have been let down by them time and again for 
both my own health and the health of my children.


Blessings,
Lea Ann

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From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:02 AM
Subject: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint



Here are some interesting sites about bird flu -
alternative viewpoint:

http://www.threeworldwars.com/news/bird-flu.htm

http://www.newstarget.com/006195.html

Mercola's input:
http://www.newstarget.com/012187.html 



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CSSilver Nanoparticles Kill HIV Virus, study shows.

2005-10-20 Thread Info - Silver Colloids
http://www.physorg.com/printnews.php?newsid=7264

Frank Key



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Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Nenah,
 
If you just change your power supply from 27 volts to 48 volts (they are 
available) then you will get pH's in the 8 to 9 region.
 
I have documentation of this for those who have Wplot32.exe.  If you want that 
program I can send that to you as an individual as it will not pass Mike's 
limit off 18 kb.
 
The microwave unit is not really necessary but if you go to 120 or 240 volts 
you will need a very hefty power supply as the currents will be in the range of 
100 to 200 mA.  With the MW unit the current ends up at 260 mA !!!  That's a 
lot of power.
 
The water temperature and room temperature is about 68 F. After the last 12 
minute brew the two gallons were at 92 F. That's a lot of BTU's to get there.
 
Ole Bob

Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Berger 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:08 PM
Subject: CSContinous flow thru


Greetings,
 
How would you like to make silver solution at the rate of  one gallon of 12 PPM 
in 5 to 6  minutes depending of the initial conductance. The pH is greater that 
8.
 
My new flow thru system using a microwave power supply and my two gallon fish 
tank makes 2 gallon in 10 to 12 minutes.
 
The unit will fit in ANY size tank !!
 
Ole Bob
==
Wow, Ole Bob, please tell us more about it. I am especially interested in how 
you got the pH to be so high. 
 
I do feel uneasy about the microwave power supply and wonder how that works.
 
Thanks.
Nenah



Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Berger
Hi Sandee,
 
The initial conductance of the last batch (today) of Wal-Mart DW was 0.60 uS/cm 
which is very low. 
 
The initial input voltage is about 2500 volts but it drops as the load 
increases. At the end (12 minutes) the voltage was about 100 volts (this 
becomes a measuring problem in itself) and the currenat was 250 mA. The water 
temp. raised from 68 to 92 F in the 12 minutes.
 
Can you receive photos?
 
Ole Bob

Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 

Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread Roger Barker
Hi Bob, could you please tell us more about using/converting a 
microwave for this purpose? I seem to remember, some time ago, 
discussion on using an old microwave for making CS and as I now need to 
make larger quantities I think this may be the way to go.


Cheers,  Roger

On 21/10/2005, at 6:08 AM, Robert Berger wrote:


Greetings,
 
How would you like to make silver solution at the rate of  one gallon 
of 12 PPM in 5 to 6  minutes depending of the initial conductance. The 
pH is greater that 8.

 
My new flow thru system using a microwave power supply and my two 
gallon fish tank makes 2 gallon in 10 to 12 minutes.

 
The unit will fit in ANY size tank !!
 
Ole Bob



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Re: CSCS Confusion

2005-10-20 Thread cking001
On 10/20/2005 11:11:43 AM, Robert Berger (bober...@swbell.net) wrote:
So, we should break ourselves of calling our product colloidal silver as it 
is NOT !!
 
How about Silver sol, silver Hydrosol, EIS, or Silver Hydronium !!!
 
Ole Bob

Heh,
Just LOVE  Silver Hydronium.
Sounds so turn of the century.
Oh, wait- it IS!!
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CSNewbie here!

2005-10-20 Thread Rob Payne

Hi everyone here on the list
I live in ireland,and wish to make my own CS, my preference is to buy a 
basic cs making device,anyone know of a reputable make ?Not expensive but 
does the job.
I have had hep c for 25 years,did the drug treatment ,which failed to 
maintain a sustained clearance.Currently I am doing very well on chinese 
herbs and attensind workshops with a chinese qigong master.
I am happy to offer my experiences with hep c and what I have found 
effective so far!


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RE: CSNewbie here!

2005-10-20 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Hi Rob!
One way for easy make of CS is (as we have done for months now)
Have two silver wires, 2mm in diameter (real silver)
have two copper connections (crocodile beak wires)
connect those to the silver wires, and to three 9 volts batteries on the 
other side.

Put the silver wires in a glass of PURE water, leave for half an hour.
Then pour your CS in a receptacle, presto.
Let CLEANLINESS be your guide, and there will be no problem for the use of 
your home-made CS.

Faith





From: Rob Payne robinke...@hotmail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNewbie here!
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:15:08 +0100

Hi everyone here on the list
I live in ireland,and wish to make my own CS, my preference is to buy a 
basic cs making device,anyone know of a reputable make ?Not expensive but 
does the job.
I have had hep c for 25 years,did the drug treatment ,which failed to 
maintain a sustained clearance.Currently I am doing very well on chinese 
herbs and attensind workshops with a chinese qigong master.
I am happy to offer my experiences with hep c and what I have found 
effective so far!


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CSReflexology: please excuse!

2005-10-20 Thread Faith Saint Francis
Faith likes to apologize for the length of that introduction of our 
http://healinhands.org

All those e-mail contacts were not meant to be published.
Computers were never real friends of mine
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Re: CSNewbie here!

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
Hi Rob,

Welcome!  :)

Funny you should mention Hep C.  Brooks Bradley was
also talking about it earlier today or yesterday. Not
sure if you caught this one.

  Dear Mr. Sanders,
   Our research, during the
mid-1990's, yielded some 
useful datarelating to Hep C
and other similar pernicious viral insults.  Our
experimental protocols 
(the ones producing the most marked beneficial effect)
involved a 
composite methodology including 10 to 20 ppm strength
colloidal silver, 
alpha lipoic acid and high-dosage vitamin C (buffered
with common sodium 
bicarbonate).  We determined, early on, that dosages
of 500 mg to 1000 mg 
of alpha lipoic acid and  10 to 20 Grams of vitamin C
.DAILY, were 
required for meaningful favorable response.  The
actual dosage of 
Vitamin C was determined by the bowel-tolerance
exhibited by the various 
volunteers.  This characteristic varies
quite measurablyespecially  among the adult
population.  VERY 
rarely did we encounter anyone with a
bowel-tolerance less than 10 grams 
daily. A few of our volunteers required alpha lipoic
dosages as high as 
1800 to 2000 mg daily for up to 15 days, initially,
before promising 
liver-health parameters
began to present.  It might be of value to relate that
in two 
instances, utilizing protocols based upon those
pioneered by Dr. Frederick 
Klenner and associates.IV Vitamin C dosages of a
very high order  (1000 
mg per kilogram of body weight) were required for
stabilization of very 
high viral loads.  However, this protocol resulted in
spectacular 
results in these, formerly, non-responding
experimental
volunteers.
   Colloidal silver dosages as high as 50
fluid ounces daily, 
at strengths as high as 20 ppm
were utilized in these experimental
researches..without any 
untoward responses.
I would strongly encourage you to
prosecute some personal 
research embracing the Klenner/Cathcart high-dosage
Vitamin C protocol 
histories.  After familiarizing yourself with their
many successes, I 
believe you would be well-served to canvas the
Professional Medical 
practitioner field until you locate one that is
receptive/amenable to this 
type of VERY powerful address to Hep C.as well as
many other of the 
more serious viral insults currently expressing within
our society.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley. 

--- Rob Payne robinke...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone here on the list
 I live in ireland,and wish to make my own CS, my
 preference is to buy a 
 basic cs making device,anyone know of a reputable
 make ?Not expensive but 
 does the job.
 I have had hep c for 25 years,did the drug treatment
 ,which failed to 
 maintain a sustained clearance.Currently I am doing
 very well on chinese 
 herbs and attensind workshops with a chinese qigong
 master.
 I am happy to offer my experiences with hep c and
 what I have found 
 effective so far!
 
 Good to be here ,kind regards from Rob.
 

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Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread cking001
Roger,
Duncan came up with the original micowave conversion. It's what I use
now.
Here's his original write-up:
http://zeek.ca/4u/article.php?op=Printsid=111


Chuck
If you choke a smurf, what color does it turn?

On 10/20/2005 4:55:06 PM, Roger Barker (rbar...@orcon.net.nz) wrote:
 Hi Bob, could you please tell us more about using/converting a
 microwave for this purpose? I seem to remember, some time ago,
 discussion on using an old microwave for making CS and as I now need to
 make larger quantities I think this may be the way to go.
 
 Cheers,  Roger
 
 On 21/10/2005, at 6:08 AM, Robert Berger wrote:
 
  Greetings,
   
  How would you like to make silver solution at the rate of  one gallon
  of 12 PPM in 5 to 6  minutes depending of the initial conductance. The
  pH is greate


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Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread bbanever
Ole Bob,

I'd be interested!

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Berger 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:08 AM
  Subject: CSContinous flow thru


  Greetings,

  How would you like to make silver solution at the rate of  one gallon of 12 
PPM in 5 to 6  minutes depending of the initial conductance. The pH is greater 
that 8.

  My new flow thru system using a microwave power supply and my two gallon fish 
tank makes 2 gallon in 10 to 12 minutes.

  The unit will fit in ANY size tank !!

  Ole Bob

Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread Nessie

Ya:
And  what about the other electrode size...
  nessie,,
*

I have re-wired a microwave oven to make my CS. It gives about 3600 
volts pulsed DC current. I use an rolled-out piece of  fine silver 
bar 5.25 inches long and 1.25 wide for the electrode. This allows 
reduced power DENSITY and still lots of power. The electrodes are spaced 
parallel for a wide-mouth jar, about 2.25 apart, giving ample RESISTANCE 
to the current.

**
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Roger,
Duncan came up with the original micowave conversion. It's what I use
now.
Here's his original write-up:
http://zeek.ca/4u/article.php?op=Printsid=111


Chuck
If you choke a smurf, what color does it turn?

On 10/20/2005 4:55:06 PM, Roger Barker (rbar...@orcon.net.nz) wrote:
 


Hi Bob, could you please tell us more about using/converting a
microwave for this purpose? I seem to remember, some time ago,
discussion on using an old microwave for making CS and as I now need to
make larger quantities I think this may be the way to go.

Cheers,  Roger

On 21/10/2005, at 6:08 AM, Robert Berger wrote:

   


Greetings,

How would you like to make silver solution at the rate of  one gallon
of 12 PPM in 5 to 6  minutes depending of the initial conductance. The
pH is greate
 




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Re: CSNewbie here!

2005-10-20 Thread Lea Ann

Hello Rob,

The two units that I see recommended most frequently (and equally 
recommended) are:


1) The Silver Gen SG6: 
http://www.silvergen.com/shop/index.php?shop=1cart=24412cat=1noCookiePassThrough=YPHPSESSID=bd902235b6d51175d2d589c66d26dd63


And

2) The Silver Puppy  : http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html

I have a Silver Gen SG6 and couldn't be happier - I've heard enough reports 
on both of these machines to know that you could not go wrong with either 
one.  I make crystal clear colloidal silver batch after batch without fail 
and without fuss.  My being a non-technical type, I like it that the work 
has been done for me by someone with MUCH more knowledge than I have.


Best of luck to you in your quest for health!

Blessings,
Lea Ann

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Payne robinke...@hotmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: CSNewbie here!



Hi everyone here on the list
I live in ireland,and wish to make my own CS, my preference is to buy a 
basic cs making device,anyone know of a reputable make ?Not expensive but 
does the job.
I have had hep c for 25 years,did the drug treatment ,which failed to 
maintain a sustained clearance.Currently I am doing very well on chinese 
herbs and attensind workshops with a chinese qigong master.
I am happy to offer my experiences with hep c and what I have found 
effective so far!


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CSMicrowave power supply

2005-10-20 Thread Robert Berger
Greetings,
 
Thanks for the article by Duncan Crow. That was where I got the idea back in 
2002, but didn't like the results from brewing in a cell, when I ran the tests 
with it.
 
My tests were run on 1/31/03 and 2/1/03  using one gallon of DW. In 10 minutes 
it measures 6.82 PPM but was slightly gray in color with a very strong T. E., 
6 spacing.
 
The fast movement of water in the flow thru appears to have solved the problems.
 
If you want pictures and data plots then send me a stamped and addressed #10 
envelope with 2 stamps on it.
 
I used distilled water which has a very much lower conductivity than reverse 
osmosis water, and hence takes longer.
 
I will try the reverse osmosis water as it should make the process go faster. 
The only question in my mind is what are the impurities in RO water.
 
Ole Bob
 
System Tech Engineering
Robert L. Berger
12303 E. 89th St.
Kansas City, MO 64138-5150



Re: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint

2005-10-20 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Among the most disturbing claims  I have read about thimerisol  is 
this:   it is simple to eliminate the need for it.  Thimerisol  is a 
preservative that could be eliminated just by making smaller, one-use 
containers for the vaccines.  But to do so would increase costs and 
decrease profits.


If true, the presence of this toxin is beyond disgraceful.



On Friday, Oct 21, 2005, at 04:01 Asia/Tokyo, Lea Ann wrote:


Hello Terry,

This article on Mercola's input is interesting to me because it 
indicates that thimerisol was indeed outlawed (I thought it had been 
but then I wasn't sure if it was just childhood vaccines or all 
vaccines).


I still can't get over the poster at my local grocery store with the 
disclaimer that people who have allergies to thimerosol should not 
take the shot.


Interesting articles.  I completely agree with newstarget that we must 
assume full responsibility for prevention and if necessary treatment.  
I have NO trust in doctors.  I have been let down by them time and 
again for both my own health and the health of my children.


Blessings,
Lea Ann

- Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:02 AM
Subject: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint



Here are some interesting sites about bird flu -
alternative viewpoint:

http://www.threeworldwars.com/news/bird-flu.htm

http://www.newstarget.com/006195.html

Mercola's input:
http://www.newstarget.com/012187.html



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Citizens for Legitimate Government, Bush Election Coup 2000 2K anti political a

2005-10-20 Thread Paula Perry
Hope you read this. Congress is getting ready to enact legislation freeing the 
makers of vaccines of any liability. (God only knows what they will be able to 
include in them now. Especially since they won't have to fret about 
consequences). Includes a list of Senators ready to vote yes for it right now. 
Also includes e-mail addresses to voice your opposition. 
Paula

 http://www.legitgov.org/action_biodefense_pandemic_vaccine_act_201005.html

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Joe Allen the Scandalous History of the Red Cross

2005-10-20 Thread Paula Perry
This will make you think twice about donating to the Red Cross. 

 http://www.counterpunch.com/allen10202005.html

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Re: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint

2005-10-20 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
What are the alternative preservatives are being used,
in place of thermiserol?

-Ken Bagwell


--- Jonathan B. Britten
jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

 Among the most disturbing claims  I have read about
 thimerisol  is 
 this:   it is simple to eliminate the need for it. 
 Thimerisol  is a 
 preservative that could be eliminated just by making
 smaller, one-use 
 containers for the vaccines.  But to do so would
 increase costs and 
 decrease profits.
 
 If true, the presence of this toxin is beyond
 disgraceful.
 
 
 
 On Friday, Oct 21, 2005, at 04:01 Asia/Tokyo, Lea
 Ann wrote:
 
  Hello Terry,
 
  This article on Mercola's input is interesting to
 me because it 
  indicates that thimerisol was indeed outlawed (I
 thought it had been 
  but then I wasn't sure if it was just childhood
 vaccines or all 
  vaccines).
 
  I still can't get over the poster at my local
 grocery store with the 
  disclaimer that people who have allergies to
 thimerosol should not 
  take the shot.
 
  Interesting articles.  I completely agree with
 newstarget that we must 
  assume full responsibility for prevention and if
 necessary treatment.  
  I have NO trust in doctors.  I have been let down
 by them time and 
  again for both my own health and the health of my
 children.
 
  Blessings,
  Lea Ann
 
  - Original Message - From: Terry
 Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:02 AM
  Subject: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint
 
 
  Here are some interesting sites about bird flu -
  alternative viewpoint:
 
  http://www.threeworldwars.com/news/bird-flu.htm
 
  http://www.newstarget.com/006195.html
 
  Mercola's input:
  http://www.newstarget.com/012187.html
 
 
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Re: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint

2005-10-20 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I read that no preservative is needed if the vaccines are packaged in 
small, single-use dosages and handled properly.  I suppose 
refrigeration is important.


I am aware of no alternative preservatives.   Given the nature of our 
list, is is puzzling that EIS or some other form of silver is not used 
if the Pharms.  insist on making the larger, multi-dose units.


I am not an MD or clinician and have limited knowledge about this 
topic; maybe someone else on this list has all the details.   But if 
the claim is true, I think it is really damning.







On Friday, Oct 21, 2005, at 10:12 Asia/Tokyo, Ken  Nancy Bagwell wrote:


What are the alternative preservatives are being used,
in place of thermiserol?

-Ken Bagwell


--- Jonathan B. Britten
jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:


Among the most disturbing claims  I have read about
thimerisol  is
this:   it is simple to eliminate the need for it.
Thimerisol  is a
preservative that could be eliminated just by making
smaller, one-use
containers for the vaccines.  But to do so would
increase costs and
decrease profits.

If true, the presence of this toxin is beyond
disgraceful.



On Friday, Oct 21, 2005, at 04:01 Asia/Tokyo, Lea
Ann wrote:


Hello Terry,

This article on Mercola's input is interesting to

me because it

indicates that thimerisol was indeed outlawed (I

thought it had been

but then I wasn't sure if it was just childhood

vaccines or all

vaccines).

I still can't get over the poster at my local

grocery store with the

disclaimer that people who have allergies to

thimerosol should not

take the shot.

Interesting articles.  I completely agree with

newstarget that we must

assume full responsibility for prevention and if

necessary treatment.

I have NO trust in doctors.  I have been let down

by them time and

again for both my own health and the health of my

children.


Blessings,
Lea Ann

- Original Message - From: Terry

Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:02 AM
Subject: CSBird flu - alternative viewpoint



Here are some interesting sites about bird flu -
alternative viewpoint:

http://www.threeworldwars.com/news/bird-flu.htm

http://www.newstarget.com/006195.html

Mercola's input:
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Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread cking001
Your excerpt below is not part of my original  post .
You'd have to ask Duncan what he used. He may still lurk the group.

Anyhow Ole Bobs refinements will probably be more interesting and he
could give current science as he interprets it.

If the archives ever return, Mike Monet did a lot of calculating on
current density and electrode size/shape that was fascinating (for
nerds).
Bottom line is the high voltage pulsed DC method gives large
quantities of CS very quickly. Pick your own electrode sizes.

Chuck
Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery.
 

On 10/20/2005 7:27:39 PM, Nessie (nes...@shaw.ca) wrote:
 Ya:
 And  what about the other electrode size...
 nessie,,
 *
 
 I have re-wired a microwave oven to make my CS. It gives about 3600
 volts pulsed DC current. I use an rolled-out piece of  fine silver
 bar 5.25 inches long and 1.25 wide for the electrode. This allows
 reduced power DENSITY and still lots of power. The electrodes are spaced
 parallel for a wide-mouth jar, about 2.25 apart, giving ample RESISTANCE
 to the current.
 **
 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 Roger,
 Duncan came up with the original micowave conversion.
 It's what I use
 now.
 Here's his original write-up:
 http://zeek.ca/4u/article.php?op=Printsid=111
 
 
  Chuck
 If you choke a smurf, what color does it turn?
 
 On 10/20/2005 4:55:06 PM, Roger Barker (rbar...@orcon.net.nz) wrote:
 
 
 Hi Bob, could you please tell us more about using/converting a
 microwave for this purpose? I seem to remember, some time ago,



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Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread Roger Barker

Sounds simple enough. Now where did I put that old microwave:-)

Many thanks,  Roger

On 21/10/2005, at 12:05 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Roger,
Duncan came up with the original micowave conversion. It's what I use
now.
Here's his original write-up:
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CSdentists to mike D.

2005-10-20 Thread Betsy Coffey
 
 




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CSdentists to Mike D.;

2005-10-20 Thread Betsy Coffey
Mike did you still need some web sites on Dentists. If
so specifically are you looking for lists of wholistic
dentists for general care,orthodontics, or oral surgeons?



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Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-20 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Robert I can recieve photos, so send away - thanks
Sandee

The one who accomplished it is the one
who failed to realize that he could not do it.


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Re: CS5 Second Rule

2005-10-20 Thread V


none of them will hurt you. 5 soconds or 5 minutes, many of them will fly there 
wethere the food is on the floor or not. there is too much germ phobia in this 
world. most bacteria and microbes are not harmful. some day people will pay 
lots of money to a small vial of bacteria jsut so they can live. the bacteria 
serve very important functions throughout nature and mans obsessivness in 
eradicating them is completely irrational and based on false premises
Read a book called We want to live by aajonus vonderplanetz and you will have a 
whole new view on life on this planet and our microbes brothers.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=We+want+to+live
http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/bass/aajonus.html


Take care,
 V


 The restraurants around here have what they call the 5 second rule.
 That is, anything dropped on the floor is ok to put back on the plate if
 it is on the floor for less than 5 seconds.  Last night Myth Busters
 tested that and found this to be total hogwash, there was no difference
 in the huge amount of bacteria and molds picked up when food is dropped
 on the floor between 2 seconds and 6 seconds.

 Marshall



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