CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #633

2005-10-21 Thread Dino Ciccarelli
 I have re-wired a microwave oven to make my CS. It gives about 3600
 volts pulsed DC current. I use an rolled-out piece of  fine silver
 bar 5.25 inches long and 1.25 wide for the electrode. This allows
 reduced power DENSITY and still lots of power. The electrodes are spaced
 parallel for a wide-mouth jar, about 2.25 apart, giving ample RESISTANCE
 to the current.
 **
 Roger,
 Duncan came up with the original micowave conversion. It's what I use
 now.
 Here's his original write-up:
 http://zeek.ca/4u/article.php?op=Printsid=111


check out page 25 on this publication on ac- vs dc-produced cs:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

dc


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Forced Vaccination

2005-10-21 Thread Paula Perry
Get ready for a vaccination whether you want it or not.

 
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticlecode=20051020articleId=1117

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Re: CSForced Vaccination

2005-10-21 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
List,
I can't imagine living on a country where I must vacinate or else. I'd rather 
move out. I am sure is not going to happen and I resent all those 
sensationalist messages and supporting articles purporting that Americans 
have no say on vacinations. I refused to get vacinated when I came into this 
country (from Franco's regime), refused to have my son vacinated and know 
people who have done likewise.
I am confident that when the time comes, I'll prevail as I have done in the 
past.
Regards
Frank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 5:37 AM
  Subject: CSForced Vaccination


  Get ready for a vaccination whether you want it or not.

   
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticlecode=20051020articleId=1117
 


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CSCongress Set to Pass Law Eliminating Liability For Vaccine Injuries

2005-10-21 Thread Paula Perry
This is not propaganda. This bill will be comming to the Senate floor very 
soon. 

 
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/10-19-2005/0004172810

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Re: CSCS Confusion

2005-10-21 Thread Ode Coyote
   Hucksters have been using this muddled definition to make small particle claims for a long time.

A better definition is, A single atom that has lost or gained an electron, thus displaying an electronic charge. [To include ionized gasses, plazmas and such]

I have come to doubt that there are any or many free ions with an 'available ionic charge' in EIS after the first couple of days and ionic solution follows another muddled definition that includes dissolved compounds.
Ions are quite highly reactive due to the charge that defines them as ions and WILL combine with any available anions.  It appears to take some time for these to find each other, but they do.
In EIS, there are at least two available anions, hydroxl radicals and [monatomic??] oxygen.  Therefore, ionic CS is most likely silver oxides and silver hydroxides in dissolved forms .

Particulate CS is most likely metallic silver along with the crystalized forms of the previously mentioned two compounds precipitated as small enough particles to stay suspended as a colloid after the solution has gone past their combined saturation points as a dissolved substance in water...say, Silver Hydro-sol and when made stronger, that and Silver Hydro/oxy-suspension   LOL
I also don't see why any suspended crystals would have to be made of discrete compounds or a distinct metal, thus, could be crystals of one compound neucleated by another silver compound or metallic crystal that had crystalized first.
Further, could not ions form a protective 'association' with one or more of these molecules or a water molecule without actually becoming 'the' compound as a 'captured/semi-stable but not reacted' ion? [..a not free but 'free-er' ion?]

All arguements as to what EIS 'is' don't seem to include the possibility that it's, not 'this OR that', but is all of the above, all at once, in any imaginable proportions.

I don't think any of it is a matter for concern as body chemistry appears to adjust assimilation pathways according to the variety of same elemental substance configurations encountered and wind up as pretty much the same thing.

I like the word 'Silver Hydronium'. 
It sounds inclusive enough to handle the muddles, sorta like a shotgun loaded at a silverwares store by a blind man.
But EIS [Electrically Isolated Silver] is probably better, being very specific as to source and process and less specific as to resulting varieties, proportions and properties of produced materials.

A hole is a hole, regardless of what passed through it, as a whole, while it was becoming a hole.   :-)

Ode

At 08:11 AM 10/20/2005 -0700, you wrote: 

Greetings all,


The holy Grail of science, The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry, defines an ion as An atomic of molecular particle having a net electrical charge. to me this definition rather muddles the water.


So people can call ions particles and particles, particles  How are we to know what they have?


|The silver solutions that we make with electrolysis is is generally 90% silver ions (Ag+1) and it is water soluble. Particles will fall out of suspension if the liquid is frozen.


So, we should break ourselves of calling our product colloidal silver as it is NOT !!


How about Silver sol, silver Hydrosol, EIS, or Silver Hydronium !!!


Ole Bob





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Re: CSForced Vaccination

2005-10-21 Thread Paula Perry
The articles are about vaccination liability and access to information about 
potential injuries. The proposed new laws will exempt vaccine makers form any 
liability and block public access to information about injuries and deaths that 
they cause. I expect it will pass easily. I just wrote to both of my Senators 
to protest.

I don't know if they would even have enough vaccine to force everyone to take 
it. But, just because people haven't been forced in the past doesn't 
necessarily mean they won't be in the future. Who knows what legislators will 
pass in the event of a major epidemic? I hope that you are right that you have 
nothing at all to worry about.
Paula
  - Original Message - 
  From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:17 AM
  Subject: Re: CSForced Vaccination


  List,
  I can't imagine living on a country where I must vacinate or else. I'd rather 
move out. I am sure is not going to happen and I resent all those 
sensationalist messages and supporting articles purporting that Americans 
have no say on vacinations. I refused to get vacinated when I came into this 
country (from Franco's regime), refused to have my son vacinated and know 
people who have done likewise.
  I am confident that when the time comes, I'll prevail as I have done in the 
past.
  Regards
  Frank
- Original Message - 
From: Paula Perry 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 5:37 AM
Subject: CSForced Vaccination


Get ready for a vaccination whether you want it or not.

 
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Re: CSSilver Nanoparticles Kill HIV Virus, study shows.

2005-10-21 Thread Ode Coyote



 Scientists studied the absorption spectra of the different preparations
to pinpoint their shapes. Spherical nanoparticles absorbed in the blue
region of the spectrum, for example, Yacaman said.

##  So, color isn't 'entirely' about size, but is something much more
complex especially when shapes of impure crystals can vary in a fractal
pattern according to the nucleating particle center that the crystal grows
upon. 

Why no two snowflakes of the same size, due to crystal formation
environmental conditions, are exactly the same in configuration or shape.

 I've 'seen' pink and blue snow.

Ode


At 03:05 PM 10/20/2005 -0400, you wrote:

http://www.physorg.com/printnews.php?newsid=7264

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CSis the secret finally getting out?

2005-10-21 Thread Ross Craig
stuff and Frank Key have posted same and similar links to this important info, 
but so far no one has talked about these tests yet.

I would like to know what the experts here think of our silvergen/silverpuppy 
EIS compared to these nanoparticles they have proved  kill viruses such as HIV 
and MRSA

http://www.physorg.com/news7264.html


Re: CSdentists to Mike D.;

2005-10-21 Thread M. G. Devour
Betsy,

I'm looking for somebody to remove my amalgams that will take 
appropriate precautions against mercury exposure and assist me in 
minimizing the effects (or at least coordinate with a cooperative 
physician).

 Mike did you still need some web sites on Dentists. If
 so specifically are you looking for lists of wholistic
 dentists for general care,orthodontics, or oral surgeons?

By whatever means, yes, I still need a referral or a source of 
referrals to likely candidates. I have none so far.

Mike D.

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Re: CS5 Second Rule

2005-10-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
You are ignoring worms.  People are always tracking worm eggs all over the 
place, floors are often covered with tapeworm, hookworm, roundworm and pinworm 
eggs, anyone who has stepped in some dog or cat mess can easily be spreading 
worm eggs all over the place.  For the most part worms can infect people with 
even excellent immune systems and CS won't help at all..

Marshall

V wrote:

 none of them will hurt you. 5 soconds or 5 minutes, many of them will fly 
 there wethere the food is on the floor or not. there is too much germ phobia 
 in this world. most bacteria and microbes are not harmful. some day people 
 will pay lots of money to a small vial of bacteria jsut so they can live. the 
 bacteria serve very important functions throughout nature and mans 
 obsessivness in eradicating them is completely irrational and based on false 
 premises
 Read a book called We want to live by aajonus vonderplanetz and you will have 
 a whole new view on life on this planet and our microbes brothers.

 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=We+want+to+live
 http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/bass/aajonus.html

 Take care,
  V

  The restraurants around here have what they call the 5 second rule.
  That is, anything dropped on the floor is ok to put back on the plate if
  it is on the floor for less than 5 seconds.  Last night Myth Busters
  tested that and found this to be total hogwash, there was no difference
  in the huge amount of bacteria and molds picked up when food is dropped
  on the floor between 2 seconds and 6 seconds.

  Marshall

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Re: CSCS Confusion

2005-10-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote:

 Hucksters have been using this muddled definition to make small particle 
 claims for a long time.

 A better definition is, A single atom that has lost or gained an electron, 
 thus displaying an electronic charge. [To include ionized gasses, plazmas 
 and such]

No it can be more than one atom. Take silver oxide for example, it is Ag2O, and 
when it ionizes when dissolved it splits into Ag2++ and O--.  ALL ionic 
compounds become positive and negative ions when dissolved in water. For 
instance sodium carbonate will split up into a positive Na2++ and a negative 
CO3--, once again more than one atom.

Marshall



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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #633

2005-10-21 Thread sol
When I downloaded the publication at the link, it only goes to page 21. 
Is this a glitch on my computer?

thanks,
sol

Dino Ciccarelli wrote:



check out page 25 on this publication on ac- vs dc-produced cs:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

dc


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Re: CSCS Confusion

2005-10-21 Thread Jason E

Hi Rich:

It would be interesting to learn more about this avenue of thought.  The 
only references I've been able to find about silver hydronium indicates 
that this form of silver is not aqueous; furthermore,  I haven't been 
able to find any reference to H6O3 as a form of hydronium.  Hydronium is 
CALLED hydrodonium because of the EXTRA hydrogen.  This renders any 
solution highly acidic.


Kind Regards,

Jason

Rich Adams wrote:

From previous Ole Bob email:



It was Dr. Bill Biagiolio and a chenist freind of his that determined 
the formula for the silver solution that we make is H6O3Ag+1, and could 
well be called silver hydronium.



If that helps...

Rich Adams


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Hydronium is H30. Where are we getting the extra molecule of Hydrogen?




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Re: CSForced Vaccination

2005-10-21 Thread sol
I hope you are right. But I've been reading that vaccinations can now be 
forced for a very long time, some things I've read give reference to 
states being able to choose whether they will enforce or not. I even 
read an article with quotes by a person who was allowed in to the CDC 
conference where forced vaccs were discussed. Those on the side of 
forcing, know it will kill people, but felt the greater good was served 
by vaccinating. I didn't save anything, but a google search should turn 
up references.


Plus, the Patriot Acts do give this power to the government. To depend 
on government not to enforce powers they now have, in other words to 
depend on govt. goodwill is pretty scary.

sol

FRANK CUNS-RIAL wrote:


List,
I can't imagine living on a country where I must vacinate or else. I'd 
rather move out. I am sure is not going to happen and I resent all 
those sensationalist messages and supporting articles purporting 
that Americans have no say on vacinations. I refused to get vacinated 
when I came into this country (from Franco's regime), refused to have 
my son vacinated and know people who have done likewise.
I am confident that when the time comes, I'll prevail as I have done 
in the past.

Regards
Frank

- Original Message -
From: Paula Perry mailto:p...@zoomnet.net

Get ready for a vaccination whether you want it or not.


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CSRe[2]: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C: COMMENT

2005-10-21 Thread JS Campbell

Brooks, many thanks as always for your information, much appreciated. 

If I may ask a couple of questions:

1. Am I right in thinking that calcium ascorbate would be OK instead of sodium 
ascorbate? And would you have to be careful about balancing the calcium with 
magnesium if you were taking large doses?

2. How much sodium bicarbonate do you need to add to buffer ascorbic acid and 
can there be problems with taking in too much sodium?


3. I have read that R lipoic acid ( is that an optical isomer of the normal 
alpha lipoic acid?) is supposed to be much more potent and that the L form has 
some negative properties, can't remember what. I am not sure if this is 
commercial hype or true.The R form is more expensive. Do you have any thoughts 
on this?

BW,

Sheila 
Thursday, October 20, 2005, 6:08:43 AM, you wrote:
BB Dear Mr. Sanders,
BBOur research, during the mid-1990's,
BB yielded some useful datarelating to Hep C
BB and other similar pernicious viral insults.  Our experimental
BB protocols (the ones producing the most marked beneficial effect)
BB involved a composite methodology including 10 to 20 ppm strength
BB colloidal silver, alpha lipoic acid and high-dosage vitamin C
BB (buffered with common sodium bicarbonate).  We determined, early
BB on, that dosages of 500 mg to 1000 mg of alpha lipoic acid and  10
BB to 20 Grams of vitamin C .DAILY, were required for meaningful
BB favorable response.  The actual dosage of Vitamin C was determined
BB by the bowel-tolerance exhibited by the various volunteers. 
BB This characteristic varies
BB quite measurablyespecially  among the adult population. 
BB VERY rarely did we encounter anyone with a bowel-tolerance less
BB than 10 grams daily. A few of our volunteers required alpha lipoic
BB dosages as high as 1800 to 2000 mg daily for up to 15 days,
BB initially, before promising liver-health parameters
BB began to present.  It might be of value to relate that in two
BB instances, utilizing protocols based upon those pioneered by Dr.
BB Frederick Klenner and associates.IV Vitamin C dosages of a
BB very high order  (1000 mg per kilogram of body weight) were
BB required for stabilization of very high viral loads.  However,
BB this protocol resulted in spectacular results in these, formerly,
BB non-responding experimental
BB volunteers.
BBColloidal silver dosages as high as 50 fluid
BB ounces daily, at strengths as high as 20 ppm
BB were utilized in these experimental researches..without any untoward 
responses.
BB I would strongly encourage you to prosecute some
BB personal research embracing the Klenner/Cathcart high-dosage
BB Vitamin C protocol histories.  After familiarizing yourself with
BB their many successes, I believe you would be well-served to canvas
BB the Professional Medical practitioner field until you locate one
BB that is receptive/amenable to this type of VERY powerful address
BB to Hep C.as well as many other of the more serious viral
BB insults currently expressing within our society.
BB Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.   
BB - Original Message -
BB From: Max Sanders mazsand...@yahoo.com
BB To: CS silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C
BB Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:55:21 -0700 (PDT)

 
 Do most of you folk NOT take the flu vaccine due to your healthy 
 distrust of poison in the needles, or the more positive take that 
 Silver and other methods will protect?  I am interested in the 
 various points of view.
 
 I myself have always distrusted vaccines, but evaluate continually 
 i.e. I have Hep C.  It is strongly recommended to get the 
 antibodies to Hep A and B because a case of either could sink the 
 liver. So I tried the Hep A and B series and my body did not make 
 the antibodies.  So now I am retaking the shots, but by a travel 
 dr or immunologist, who uses a subdermal (as opposed to 
 intermuscular) technique that may help stimulate the antibodies.  I
 generally would rather not, but the risk scenario seemed OK...but 
 then again, I do not know that much about this situation.
 
 Does anyone know what a neg response to the Hep A and B vaccines 
 means?  The Dr's just shrug, but state that the response rate 
 normally is in the 99% range (have heard different).
 
 I still make my silver and loyally take it as one of the tools to 
 keep me healthy. (I am sure my quality and potency could be better)
   But my viral loads have remained steady, much to my dismay.  I 
 would love, obviously, a total clearance.  Any new info on Hep C 
 approaches?  I haven't asked here in a while.  The good news is 
 that my liver is pretty healthy (never abused to a great degree and
 protect w Milk Thistle), and recent tests show normal liver enzymes
 for the first time in a decade.  So I have this sense that I am 
 holding strong, but the virus remains in an immune system sensitive
 state.  As such, I 

RE: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C

2005-10-21 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Max,
I make, sell and take a good quality CS (1 part + 2 parts Gatorade--as
electrotyte to take the CS deeper into tissues than CS  can go alone); and
also recommend to everyone that they add BECK (or other) zapper to your
treatment. V made mine and I have ordered several for friends and highly
recommend V's quality workmanship, his very reasonable price, his promptness
in making and shipping and the FREE BECK Papers CD that he encloses with the
order (which to me seems worth it's weight in gold) + V monitors these Sites
and is handy to help with questions and valuable information. Many can use
bG's Site for simple directions to be able to make their own, but if you
prefer, send V an inquiry.
Please check my Site  Blogspot (in which I offer Free 3 pages of CS Uses
and 1 page of my CS Favorites to which I refer often.
Let me know if I might be of help.
Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com


  -Original Message-
  From: Max Sanders [mailto:mazsand...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:55 PM
  To: CS
  Subject: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


  Do most of you folk NOT take the flu vaccine due to your healthy distrust
of poison in the needles, or the more positive take that Silver and other
methods will protect?  I am interested in the various points of view.

  I myself have always distrusted vaccines, but evaluate continually i.e. I
have Hep C.  It is strongly recommended to get the antibodies to Hep A and B
because a case of either could sink the liver. So I tried the Hep A and B
series and my body did not make the antibodies.  So now I am retaking the
shots, but by a travel dr or immunologist, who uses a subdermal (as
opposed to intermuscular) technique that may help stimulate the antibodies.
I generally would rather not, but the risk scenario seemed OK...but then
again, I do not know that much about this situation.

  Does anyone know what a neg response to the Hep A and B vaccines means?
The Dr's just shrug, but state that the response rate normally is in the 99%
range (have heard different).

  I still make my silver and loyally take it as one of the tools to keep me
healthy. (I am sure my quality and potency could be better)  But my viral
loads have remained steady, much to my dismay.  I would love, obviously, a
total clearance.  Any new info on Hep C approaches?  I haven't asked here in
a while.  The good news is that my liver is pretty healthy (never abused to
a great degree and protect w Milk Thistle), and recent tests show normal
liver enzymes for the first time in a decade.  So I have this sense that I
am holding strong, but the virus remains in an immune system sensitive
state.  As such, I feel vulnerable to a twist of fate that would lead to a
viral explosion.

  Thanks for any and all considered responses.

  Maz



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Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C

2005-10-21 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
List, Electrolite in Gatorade takes CS deeper into the tissues? Any research on 
this?
Regards
Frank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Harris 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: Richard Harris 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:55 AM
  Subject: RE: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


  Hi Max,
  I make, sell and take a good quality CS (1 part + 2 parts Gatorade--as 
electrotyte to take the CS deeper into tissues than CS  can go alone); and also 
recommend to everyone that they add BECK (or other) zapper to your treatment. V 
made mine and I have ordered several for friends and highly recommend V's 
quality workmanship, his very reasonable price, his promptness in making and 
shipping and the FREE BECK Papers CD that he encloses with the order (which to 
me seems worth it's weight in gold) + V monitors these Sites and is handy to 
help with questions and valuable information. Many can use bG's Site for simple 
directions to be able to make their own, but if you prefer, send V an inquiry.
  Please check my Site  Blogspot (in which I offer Free 3 pages of CS Uses and 
1 page of my CS Favorites to which I refer often.
  Let me know if I might be of help.
  Sincerely,
  ___
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  448 West Juniata Street
  Clermont, FL 34711
  http://www.rharrisinc.com
  http://www.seasilver.com/reh
  http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com


-Original Message-
From: Max Sanders [mailto:mazsand...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:55 PM
To: CS
Subject: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


Do most of you folk NOT take the flu vaccine due to your healthy distrust 
of poison in the needles, or the more positive take that Silver and other 
methods will protect?  I am interested in the various points of view.

I myself have always distrusted vaccines, but evaluate continually i.e. I 
have Hep C.  It is strongly recommended to get the antibodies to Hep A and B 
because a case of either could sink the liver. So I tried the Hep A and B 
series and my body did not make the antibodies.  So now I am retaking the 
shots, but by a travel dr or immunologist, who uses a subdermal (as opposed 
to intermuscular) technique that may help stimulate the antibodies.  I 
generally would rather not, but the risk scenario seemed OK...but then again, I 
do not know that much about this situation.

Does anyone know what a neg response to the Hep A and B vaccines means?  
The Dr's just shrug, but state that the response rate normally is in the 99% 
range (have heard different).

I still make my silver and loyally take it as one of the tools to keep me 
healthy. (I am sure my quality and potency could be better)  But my viral loads 
have remained steady, much to my dismay.  I would love, obviously, a total 
clearance.  Any new info on Hep C approaches?  I haven't asked here in a while. 
 The good news is that my liver is pretty healthy (never abused to a great 
degree and protect w Milk Thistle), and recent tests show normal liver enzymes 
for the first time in a decade.  So I have this sense that I am holding strong, 
but the virus remains in an immune system sensitive state.  As such, I feel 
vulnerable to a twist of fate that would lead to a viral explosion.  

Thanks for any and all considered responses.

Maz



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Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C

2005-10-21 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - 
From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


List, Electrolite in Gatorade takes CS deeper into the tissues? Any research on 
this?
Regards
Frank
=
Frank,
I believe this was discussed awhile ago on this list but I don't remember the 
details.

My concern is the sugar and other stuff in the Gatorade that is not good for 
me. I like Fulvic Acid minerals from Vital Earth. The Fulvic Acid is supposed 
to chelate heavy metals out of the body. I know that CS isn't a heavy metal -- 
but does anyone know how that would be affected if the two were taken together?

Nenah

Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C

2005-10-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Gatorade increases the absorption rate of the ionic portion of EIS.  The
absorption rate is normally restricted due to the ionic portion turning
to silver chloride in the stomach, and the low solubility ( .8 ppm ) of
silver in water or diluted stomach acids.  When you mix with gatorade,
the high chlorine content causes the silver to form silver complexes,
which are highly soluble, and thus can pass into the blood stream
unimpeded.

Marshall

Nenah Sylver wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:10 PM
 Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C
  List, Electrolite in Gatorade takes CS deeper into the tissues? Any
 research on this?RegardsFrank=Frank,I believe this was
 discussed awhile ago on this list but I don't remember the details. My
 concern is the sugar and other stuff in the Gatorade that is not good
 for me. I like Fulvic Acid minerals from Vital Earth. The Fulvic Acid
 is supposed to chelate heavy metals out of the body. I know that CS
 isn't a heavy metal -- but does anyone know how that would be affected
 if the two were taken together? Nenah


CSCS Confusion

2005-10-21 Thread Matthew McCann
The Wikipedia online encyclopedia's article on Hydronium mentions also some
equivalents and near-equivalents for Hydronium recognized by the International
Union Of Pure And Applied Chemistry (IUPAC.) They are Oxonium,
Hydroxonium and Oxidanium. If ones goes back to the research done at the 
Unkrainian
Academy of Science on EIS in the 1940s, it was called Serebrianna Voda.

Matthew

Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C

2005-10-21 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
Nenah, I agree with you regarding Fulvates and not putting sugars into the 
body. I am intrigued, thought, by a number of matter-of-fact- statements I read 
on the Net and I would like to investigate them further. Thanks for your reply.
Frank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nenah Sylver 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


  - Original Message - 
  From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


  List, Electrolite in Gatorade takes CS deeper into the tissues? Any research 
on this?
  Regards
  Frank
  =
  Frank,
  I believe this was discussed awhile ago on this list but I don't remember the 
details.

  My concern is the sugar and other stuff in the Gatorade that is not good for 
me. I like Fulvic Acid minerals from Vital Earth. The Fulvic Acid is supposed 
to chelate heavy metals out of the body. I know that CS isn't a heavy metal -- 
but does anyone know how that would be affected if the two were taken together?

  Nenah

CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-21 Thread Nessie

Me  to
 nessie  (nes...@shaw.ca)


Sandee George wrote:


Hi There Robert I can recieve photos, so send away - thanks
Sandee

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Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C

2005-10-21 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
Marshall, Thx for the info. You say...the high chlorine content causes the 
silverWhere is this chlorine coming from? Are you talking about chlorine 
gas? 
Where would I get the supporting evidence?
Thx
Frank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:23 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


  Gatorade increases the absorption rate of the ionic portion of EIS.  The 
absorption rate is normally restricted due to the ionic portion turning to 
silver chloride in the stomach, and the low solubility ( .8 ppm ) of silver in 
water or diluted stomach acids.  When you mix with gatorade, the high chlorine 
content causes the silver to form silver complexes, which are highly soluble, 
and thus can pass into the blood stream unimpeded. 
  Marshall 

  Nenah Sylver wrote: 

- Original Message -
From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C
 List, Electrolite in Gatorade takes CS deeper into the tissues? Any 
research on this?RegardsFrank=Frank,I believe this was discussed awhile 
ago on this list but I don't remember the details. My concern is the sugar and 
other stuff in the Gatorade that is not good for me. I like Fulvic Acid 
minerals from Vital Earth. The Fulvic Acid is supposed to chelate heavy metals 
out of the body. I know that CS isn't a heavy metal -- but does anyone know how 
that would be affected if the two were taken together? Nenah

CSRe: Citizens for Legitimate Government, Bush Election Coup 2000 2K anti political a

2005-10-21 Thread jrowland

Why do you keep sending sending this list attachments?
Do you think we are incapable of clicking a link?
jr



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Re: CSdentists to Mike D.;

2005-10-21 Thread Nenah Sylver


- Original Message - 
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: CSdentists to Mike D.;



Betsy,

I'm looking for somebody to remove my amalgams that will take
appropriate precautions against mercury exposure and assist me in
minimizing the effects (or at least coordinate with a cooperative
physician).


Mike,
A number of people on several health lists that I belong to have gone to 
Mexico to see a biological dentist. The cost is a fraction of what it would 
cost in the States ... and even with the travel, it saves you money.


I don't have names of any of the dentists, but you can do a Google search.

Best,
Nenah 



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Re: CSis the secret finally getting out?

2005-10-21 Thread alltogethernow
I would definately be interested in a generator that offered these small
particles. Does the average generator do this, or is there some special
method?
 I would buy one if so. 


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Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C

2005-10-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Check the ingredients in Gatorade.  You will find electrolytes in it,
sodium chloride and potassium chloride.

The supporting information is in these archives, where I have previously
posted the information, and references.

Marshall

FRANK CUNS-RIAL wrote:

  Marshall, Thx for the info. You say...the high chlorine content
 causes the silverWhere is this chlorine coming from? Are you
 talking about chlorine gas?Where would I get the supporting
 evidence?ThxFrank

  - Original Message -
  From: Marshall Dudley
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:23 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and
  Hep C
   Gatorade increases the absorption rate of the ionic portion
  of EIS.  The absorption rate is normally restricted due to
  the ionic portion turning to silver chloride in the stomach,
  and the low solubility ( .8 ppm ) of silver in water or
  diluted stomach acids.  When you mix with gatorade, the high
  chlorine content causes the silver to form silver complexes,
  which are highly soluble, and thus can pass into the blood
  stream unimpeded.

  Marshall

  Nenah Sylver wrote:

  - Original Message -
  From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and
  Hep C
   List, Electrolite in Gatorade takes CS deeper into the
  tissues? Any research on this?RegardsFrank=Frank,I
  believe this was discussed awhile ago on this list but I
  don't remember the details. My concern is the sugar and
  other stuff in the Gatorade that is not good for me. I
  like Fulvic Acid minerals from Vital Earth. The Fulvic
  Acid is supposed to chelate heavy metals out of the body.
  I know that CS isn't a heavy metal -- but does anyone know
  how that would be affected if the two were taken together?
  Nenah



Re: CS5 Second Rule

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi Marshall,

worms have their jobs too inside and outside. If you have a truel helathy body 
the worms are not a problem and mostly wont stay. they are there to eat the 
dead matter. 

Some doctors even use maggots now to clean wounds so they heal faster. the put 
a bunch of maggots on the open wounds and the maggots eat all the dead flesh 
and dont touch the good cells and when they are done they take the maggots off 
and the would heals up real fast. they are FDA approved also. Internal 
parasites form a simialr function, and most americans have worms already.




Take care,
 V


 You are ignoring worms.  People are always tracking worm eggs all over
 the place, floors are often covered with tapeworm, hookworm, roundworm
 and pinworm eggs, anyone who has stepped in some dog or cat mess can
 easily be spreading worm eggs all over the place.  For the most part
 worms can infect people with even excellent immune systems and CS won't help 
 at all..

 Marshall

 V wrote:

 none of them will hurt you. 5 soconds or 5 minutes, many of them will fly 
 there wethere the food is on the floor or not. there is too much germ phobia 
 in this world. most bacteria and microbes are not harmful. some day people 
 will pay lots of money to a small vial of bacteria jsut so they can live. 
 the bacteria serve very important functions throughout nature and mans 
 obsessivness in eradicating them is completely irrational and based on false 
 premises
 Read a book called We want to live by aajonus vonderplanetz and you will 
 have a whole new view on life on this planet and our microbes brothers.

 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=We+want+to+live
 http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/bass/aajonus.html

 Take care,
  V

  The restraurants around here have what they call the 5 second rule.
  That is, anything dropped on the floor is ok to put back on the plate if
  it is on the floor for less than 5 seconds.  Last night Myth Busters
  tested that and found this to be total hogwash, there was no difference
  in the huge amount of bacteria and molds picked up when food is dropped
  on the floor between 2 seconds and 6 seconds.

  Marshall

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Re: CSwhole lemon and a clove of garlic

2005-10-21 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Yes, one lemon + one clove of garlic ech day, for nine days does it.
FSF



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSwhole lemon and a clove of garlic
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:07:24 EDT

In a message dated 10/16/05 9:35:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
faithstfran...@hotmail.com writes:

 Take a whole lemon, and one clove of garlic. Put them both in a 
liquidizer,


 and liquidize well. Sift the juice in a sieve, then drink for nine days.



Do you drink one lemon and one clove daily or do you divide the one of each
into  nine

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CSmastercleanse .. masterclea...@yahoogroups.com

2005-10-21 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Hi CS Group!

For once, I forgot to paste the e-mail address of the person who sent us the 
message:


There is also a Yahoo Group masterclea...@yahoogroups.com that has approx. 
1400 people in it.  They rave about this diet, and say not only does it 
work, but they have great amounts of energy and clarity too.


I have tried to find it on my browser, but I can't get through.

Is that so, or is there some mistake in the URL?

Please help,
Thanks
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CS@ @ @ @ @ @ @ !!!

2005-10-21 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Fiath made no practical joke!

Hi CS Group! For once, I forgot to paste the e-mail address of the person 
who sent us the message:

There is also a Yahoo Group masterclea...@yahoogroups.


Hmm .. I did tell you that I am NOT an artist on this avenue .. meanwhile, 
did send a petition via Outlook Express.


Sorry to have lost my face (can I find it back?)

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CSnot to @ @ @ @ either

2005-10-21 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Sorry for the bother ..

Got the message returned:


We are unable to deliver the message  masterclea...@yahoogroups.com. 


Anyone able to help?

Faith

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Re: CSmastercleanse .. masterclea...@yahoogroups.com

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi Faith,

you need to make a distinction between an emalil adderss and a url
urls always start with http or www
you were trynig to put an email address in your browser.

here it is

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mastercleanse/





Take care,
 V


 Hi CS Group!

 For once, I forgot to paste the e-mail address of the person who sent us the
 message:

There is also a Yahoo Group masterclea...@yahoogroups.com that has approx. 
1400 people in it.  They rave about this diet, and say not only does it 
work, but they have great amounts of energy and clarity too.

 I have tried to find it on my browser, but I can't get through.

 Is that so, or is there some mistake in the URL?

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 Thanks
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Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C

2005-10-21 Thread FRANK CUNS-RIAL
Marshall, I apologize. I understood chlorine and you meant chloride..
Thx for the refs. I'll check them out.
Regards
Frank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:41 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


  Check the ingredients in Gatorade.  You will find electrolytes in it, sodium 
chloride and potassium chloride. 
  The supporting information is in these archives, where I have previously 
posted the information, and references. 

  Marshall 

  FRANK CUNS-RIAL wrote: 

 Marshall, Thx for the info. You say...the high chlorine content causes the 
silverWhere is this chlorine coming from? Are you talking about chlorine 
gas?Where would I get the supporting evidence?ThxFrank 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marshall Dudley
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:23 PM
  Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C
   Gatorade increases the absorption rate of the ionic portion of EIS.  The 
absorption rate is normally restricted due to the ionic portion turning to 
silver chloride in the stomach, and the low solubility ( .8 ppm ) of silver in 
water or diluted stomach acids.  When you mix with gatorade, the high chlorine 
content causes the silver to form silver complexes, which are highly soluble, 
and thus can pass into the blood stream unimpeded. 
  Marshall 

  Nenah Sylver wrote: 

- Original Message -
From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C
 List, Electrolite in Gatorade takes CS deeper into the tissues? Any 
research on this?RegardsFrank=Frank,I believe this was discussed awhile 
ago on this list but I don't remember the details. My concern is the sugar and 
other stuff in the Gatorade that is not good for me. I like Fulvic Acid 
minerals from Vital Earth. The Fulvic Acid is supposed to chelate heavy metals 
out of the body. I know that CS isn't a heavy metal -- but does anyone know how 
that would be affected if the two were taken together? Nenah

Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-21 Thread Robert Berger
Roger you should have received an email from someone else that had Duncan 
Crowe's article on conversion.
 
If not go to http://zeek.ca/4u/article/php?op=Printsid=111  Print it out.
 
I will try to get a photo of my cell and send it to you later.
 
Ole Bob





Re: CSdentists to Mike D.;

2005-10-21 Thread Sasha
 
Mike,
Donna Crow sent this link out around mid June.  I found my Holistic Dentist
on this list.   Maybe you can find one there too.  If you would like I can
refer you to the one I found around the corner from me, and he may know
another holistic dentist in your area.  e-mail privately if you would like
his name and number. 
sa...@emotap.com
 
Subject: [Beck-n-stuff] Holistic Doctor Resource
 
http://www.holisticmedicine.org/ahma/public
jsessionid=F79D9968F246E23AA1E526BD3A1CB68E?action=findDoctors 

The above link is a place to search for holistic medical doctors. 
Apparently they are MD's who work with the body holistically.Sounds
interesting.

Donna
http://www.excellentthings.com



 
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From: M. G. Devour
Date: 10/21/05 11:13:50
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSdentists to Mike D.;
 
Betsy,
 
I'm looking for somebody to remove my amalgams that will take
appropriate precautions against mercury exposure and assist me in
minimizing the effects (or at least coordinate with a cooperative
physician).
 
 Mike did you still need some web sites on Dentists. If
 so specifically are you looking for lists of wholistic
 dentists for general care,orthodontics, or oral surgeons?
 
By whatever means, yes, I still need a referral or a source of
referrals to likely candidates. I have none so far.
 
Mike D.
 
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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CSCS:. R-Lipoic acid

2005-10-21 Thread Harold MacDonald
VRP in their Vitamin research news bulletin of Nov. 2002,has an article re 
R-lipoic acid.To quoteThis unique supplement is the biologically  active form 
of a ' mitochondrial antioxidant' that plays a number of key roles in human 
health and aging.
If you go to their site: www.VRP.com you may be able to bring up the complete 
article on why R-lipoic is the only form to take.
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CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread Harold MacDonald
I mix 1 teaspoon of ascorbic acid to 1 tspn  of bicarbonate of soda in a dry 
glass,add 1 of water,let fizzle out,then fill 8 oz glass with water,then drink 
.  During the day I may take 1/4 tspn of Calcium Ascorbate in juice with 
meals.I have even put CA in wine with no problems.
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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
Hi Harold,

I haven't been following your discussion, but why do
you mention this recipe?  Is this a superior way to
take Vit C.?

I eat a lot of the Emergen-C packets.

-Ken Bagwell


--- Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote:

 I mix 1 teaspoon of ascorbic acid to 1 tspn  of
 bicarbonate of soda in a dry glass,add 1 of
 water,let fizzle out,then fill 8 oz glass with
 water,then drink .  During the day I may take 1/4
 tspn of Calcium Ascorbate in juice with meals.I have
 even put CA in wine with no problems.
 Harold No virus found in this outgoing message.
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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi Harold,

the correct ratio is 1 teaspoon of Vit C to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda.




Take care,
 V


 I mix 1 teaspoon of ascorbic acid to 1 tspn  of bicarbonate of soda in a
 dry glass,add 1 of water,let fizzle out,then fill 8 oz glass with
 water,then drink .  During the day I may take 1/4 tspn of Calcium
 Ascorbate in juice with meals.I have even put CA in wine with no problems.
 Harold


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Re: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-21 Thread Roger Barker
Hi Bob, yes, I do have the article thanks and would certainly 
appreciate a photo when you have one.


Cheers,  Roger
http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html

On 22/10/2005, at 8:41 AM, Robert Berger wrote:

Roger you should have received an email from someone else that had 
Duncan Crowe's article on conversion.

 
If not go to http://zeek.ca/4u/article/php?op=Printsid=111  Print it 
out.

 
I will try to get a photo of my cell and send it to you later.
 
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RE: CSdentists to Mike D.;

2005-10-21 Thread Wendy
Mike: I have done a lot of research on this. Check out the clinic in
Colorado springs on Dr. Hal Huggins site. www.halhuggins.com I spoke
with Bob Brooks Director of Alliance Services in the summer
1-866-948-4638  b...@drhuggins.com

If you call them, if nothing else, they can offer you a lot of
information and when Dr. Huggins will be doing another clinic and where.
Bob sent me about 6 attached files for reading as well as I have read
Hal Huggins books too.

They used to list huggins type 'referral dentists' on their website but
found that wasn't working because patients were expecting a level of
care they just weren't getting as some dentists had only taken 'a course
or two from him' rather then full training.

He now lists 'alliance dentists' on his site - who have done the full
nine yards with him.

Your other option might be to come to Canada. With the $$ difference, it
would be cheaper for everything.

I recently sent a panoramic to Dr. Benoit in Montreal Quebec for a
quote. http://www.drcarlbenoit.com/en_index.htm He follows Dr. Huggins
protocol almost to the letter. They were very helpful. What Hal Huggins
recommends these days is a one shot deal to do all amalgams, clean any
previous cavitations and/or extractions. They call it 'concious
sedation' and it is the easiest apparently on the immune system and
allows them to do vitamin c IV, acupressure, massage etc.. This option
appealed to me because I am still breastfeeding and due to my belief in
child led weaning, it will be years possibly before I am done nursing. I
considered pumping for a a week to make this possible

HOWEVER,  the quote came back higher then I expected at $6700 Canadian
for I think 13 amalgams and several cavitations and an extraction. $4500
without the conscious sedation which would stretch treatment time to a
week or more in possibly 3 separate appts.  This wouldn't includ our
hotel accommodations, traveling etc. (they are about 6 hours from us).
However they certainly know what they are talking about and I hope to
have the money maybe next year.  Although as I just double checked DR.
Huggins website, I see Dr. Benoit is not on there anymorehmm
odd. Dr. Benoit still has the 'colorado' presentation on his website...

I also remember someone about 4.5 yrs ago that we had contact with when
I was researching Hulda Clark's stuff and Tiaguna dentists. They would
help you get to your appts and tell you where to stay etc. etc. to make
sure being in 'tiaguana' was a safe and healthy experience! ;-) I cannot
find their link at the moment... someone else may have it.

Hth

Wendy
canada



I'm looking for somebody to remove my amalgams that will take 
appropriate precautions against mercury exposure and assist me in 
minimizing the effects (or at least coordinate with a cooperative 
physician).

 Mike did you still need some web sites on Dentists. If
 so specifically are you looking for lists of wholistic
 dentists for general care,orthodontics, or oral surgeons?

By whatever means, yes, I still need a referral or a source of 
referrals to likely candidates. I have none so far.

Mike D.



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RE: CSmastercleanse .. masterclea...@yahoogroups.com

2005-10-21 Thread Wendy

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mastercleanse


wendy
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RE: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread Wendy
We buy ours from a pharmacy in Toronto it's about $76 canadian/kilo

If you google for sodium ascorbate there is a lot on mega dosing and
injection with it.

Apparently great for heroin addiction recovery! 

The kids and I had whooping cough in the spring pretty bad. I ran across
a woman in New Zealand who told me about mega dosing with it. It REALLY
helped us and turned it around for us at a crucial time when our 4 month
old baby was having blue spells. We didn't have the CS maker then. ;-(
The things we learn after the fact. 

Wendy
canada

-Original Message-
From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: October 21, 2005 4:36 PM
To: Harold MacDonald
Subject: Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

Hi Harold,

the correct ratio is 1 teaspoon of Vit C to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda.







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Re: CSmastercleanse .. masterclea...@yahoogroups.com

2005-10-21 Thread Lea Ann

Hello Faith,

Here is the link:  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mastercleanse/
I joined this group and find it helpful.

Here is another source for LOTS of information and support for anyone 
considering doing a master cleanse.

http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/bowel/master_cleanse.asp

And the curezone active forum on the Master Cleanse: 
http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=478t=60485  (it is kind of hard to find 
the active forum as there are so many archived forums!)


Hope this is helpful!

Blessings,
Lea Ann


- Original Message - 
From: Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: CSmastercleanse .. masterclea...@yahoogroups.com



Hi CS Group!

For once, I forgot to paste the e-mail address of the person who sent us 
the message:


There is also a Yahoo Group masterclea...@yahoogroups.com that has 
approx. 1400 people in it.  They rave about this diet, and say not only 
does it work, but they have great amounts of energy and clarity too.


I have tried to find it on my browser, but I can't get through.

Is that so, or is there some mistake in the URL?

Please help,
Thanks
Faith




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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi Ken,

Yes it is. It allows you to take massive doses without getting loose bowels.
One teaspoon of Vitamin C is 4000 mg

when you mix it with baking soda that it cretes sodium ascorbate which is 
simialr to waht the Emergen C dose when you put it in water when it fizzes

the sodium ascorbate is real easy to drink I jsut down the whole glass at once. 
Does not have much of a taste




Take care,
 V


 Hi Harold,

 I haven't been following your discussion, but why do
 you mention this recipe?  Is this a superior way to
 take Vit C.?

 I eat a lot of the Emergen-C packets.

 -Ken Bagwell


 --- Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote:

 I mix 1 teaspoon of ascorbic acid to 1 tspn  of
 bicarbonate of soda in a dry glass,add 1 of
 water,let fizzle out,then fill 8 oz glass with
 water,then drink .  During the day I may take 1/4
 tspn of Calcium Ascorbate in juice with meals.I have
 even put CA in wine with no problems.
 Harold No virus found in this outgoing message.
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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi Wendy,

That is a lot of money , you can get a pound of Vitamin C for 10 dollars or 
less and get the baking soda in the grocery store and make your own fresh 
Sodium ascorbate




Take care,
 V


 We buy ours from a pharmacy in Toronto it's about $76 canadian/kilo

 If you google for sodium ascorbate there is a lot on mega dosing and
 injection with it.

 Apparently great for heroin addiction recovery! 

 The kids and I had whooping cough in the spring pretty bad. I ran across
 a woman in New Zealand who told me about mega dosing with it. It REALLY
 helped us and turned it around for us at a crucial time when our 4 month
 old baby was having blue spells. We didn't have the CS maker then. ;-(
 The things we learn after the fact. 

 Wendy
 canada

 -Original Message-
 From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: October 21, 2005 4:36 PM
 To: Harold MacDonald
Subject: Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

 Hi Harold,

 the correct ratio is 1 teaspoon of Vit C to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda.







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Re: CSMicrowave power supply

2005-10-21 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
?TE means:
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Berger 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:08 PM
  Subject: CSMicrowave power supply


  Greetings,

  Thanks for the article by Duncan Crow. That was where I got the idea back in 
2002, but didn't like the results from brewing in a cell, when I ran the tests 
with it.

  My tests were run on 1/31/03 and 2/1/03  using one gallon of DW. In 10 
minutes it measures 6.82 PPM but was slightly gray in color with a very strong 
T. E., 6 spacing.

  Ole Bob

  System Tech Engineering
  Robert L. Berger
  12303 E. 89th St.
  Kansas City, MO 64138-5150

Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread norman cameron
as a youngster in the late 1940's I used to add a
quarter teaspoon of baking soda to my fresh orange
juice 6oz..it made it taste like pop...I was told it
ruined the benefits of the juice when added...later
when I was a young teen so I quit adding it...maybe it
was actually benefiting the absorption of
nutrients...thanks for the suggestion for vit C and
baking soda..
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Re: CSMicrowave power supply

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi Ph.D.,

Tyndel effect




Take care,
 V


 ?TE means:
   - Original Message - 
   From: Robert Berger 
   To: silver-list 
   Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:08 PM
   Subject: CSMicrowave power supply


   Greetings,

   Thanks for the article by Duncan Crow. That was where I got the idea
 back in 2002, but didn't like the results from brewing in a cell, when I ran 
 the tests with it.

   My tests were run on 1/31/03 and 2/1/03  using one gallon of DW. In 10
 minutes it measures 6.82 PPM but was slightly gray in color with a very 
 strong T. E., 6 spacing.

   Ole Bob

   System Tech Engineering
   Robert L. Berger
   12303 E. 89th St.
   Kansas City, MO 64138-5150


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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
But wouldn't it also have a lot of salt?  High salt
intake isn't good, right?

-Ken Bagwell


--- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Ken,
 
 Yes it is. It allows you to take massive doses
 without getting loose bowels.
 One teaspoon of Vitamin C is 4000 mg
 
 when you mix it with baking soda that it cretes
 sodium ascorbate which is simialr to waht the
 Emergen C dose when you put it in water when it
 fizzes
 
 the sodium ascorbate is real easy to drink I jsut
 down the whole glass at once. Does not have much of
 a taste
 
 
 
 
 Take care,
  V
 
 
  Hi Harold,
 
  I haven't been following your discussion, but why
 do
  you mention this recipe?  Is this a superior way
 to
  take Vit C.?
 
  I eat a lot of the Emergen-C packets.
 
  -Ken Bagwell
 
 
  --- Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote:
 
  I mix 1 teaspoon of ascorbic acid to 1 tspn  of
  bicarbonate of soda in a dry glass,add 1 of
  water,let fizzle out,then fill 8 oz glass with
  water,then drink .  During the day I may take 1/4
  tspn of Calcium Ascorbate in juice with meals.I
 have
  even put CA in wine with no problems.
  Harold No virus found in this outgoing message.
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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
That does sound exceedingly expensive.

-Ken Bagwell


--- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Wendy,
 
 That is a lot of money , you can get a pound of
 Vitamin C for 10 dollars or less and get the baking
 soda in the grocery store and make your own fresh
 Sodium ascorbate
 
 
 
 
 Take care,
  V
 
 
  We buy ours from a pharmacy in Toronto it's
 about $76 canadian/kilo
 
  If you google for sodium ascorbate there is a lot
 on mega dosing and
  injection with it.
 
  Apparently great for heroin addiction recovery! 
 
  The kids and I had whooping cough in the spring
 pretty bad. I ran across
  a woman in New Zealand who told me about mega
 dosing with it. It REALLY
  helped us and turned it around for us at a crucial
 time when our 4 month
  old baby was having blue spells. We didn't have
 the CS maker then. ;-(
  The things we learn after the fact. 
 
  Wendy
  canada
 
  -Original Message-
  From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] 
  Sent: October 21, 2005 4:36 PM
  To: Harold MacDonald
 Subject: Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate
 
  Hi Harold,
 
  the correct ratio is 1 teaspoon of Vit C to 1/2
 teaspoon of baking soda.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi Ken,

Salt or sodium there is a big distinction, and not good for who. most of 
this low sodium stuff you hear on tv comes from the same place as the low fat 
diets nad the low cholesterol propaganda. Its all bull.

You have to closely examine what people are talknig about when they say 
sodium or when they say salt. the words are often interchanged. if you are 
alsknig dose it have table salt in it. no it does not. dose it have sodium in 
it yes in the form of sodium ascorbate ( vitamin C).  which is different than 
sodium chloride ( table salt).

 people that need to go on a low sodium diet are really gonig on a low salt 
diet. its the table salt that is the problem. not the sodium. these missuses of 
chemical words is the disinformation that the medical interests
http://www.health-freedom.info/iatro/index.htm
 use to pull the wool over our eyes. so if you are concered about low somethnig 
or other diets, it wolud be good to find out exactly what it is you need to be 
low in before believing any of it.

I can gaurantee you that the low sodium diet and the low fat diet and the low 
cholesterol diet are all very bad for your health and based on bad information 
spread by mass media outlets. I can also say that practically any health 
information you hear on TV is most probably false, so thorugh it all out and do 
some research on the net.

There are people on the lyme list that are taking severl grams of salt a day to 
cure their disease. Also check the water cure site.

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/salt/
http://www.watercure.com/
http://www.watercure2.org/



Take care,
 V


 But wouldn't it also have a lot of salt?  High salt
 intake isn't good, right?

 -Ken Bagwell


 --- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Ken,
 
 Yes it is. It allows you to take massive doses
 without getting loose bowels.
 One teaspoon of Vitamin C is 4000 mg
 
 when you mix it with baking soda that it cretes
 sodium ascorbate which is simialr to waht the
 Emergen C dose when you put it in water when it
 fizzes
 
 the sodium ascorbate is real easy to drink I jsut
 down the whole glass at once. Does not have much of
 a taste
 
 
 
 
 Take care,
  V
 
 
  Hi Harold,
 
  I haven't been following your discussion, but why
 do
  you mention this recipe?  Is this a superior way
 to
  take Vit C.?
 
  I eat a lot of the Emergen-C packets.
 
  -Ken Bagwell
 
 
  --- Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote:
 
  I mix 1 teaspoon of ascorbic acid to 1 tspn  of
  bicarbonate of soda in a dry glass,add 1 of
  water,let fizzle out,then fill 8 oz glass with
  water,then drink .  During the day I may take 1/4
  tspn of Calcium Ascorbate in juice with meals.I
 have
  even put CA in wine with no problems.
  Harold No virus found in this outgoing message.
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Re: CS5 Second Rule

2005-10-21 Thread sol

Some worm info:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2040756.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3287733.stm

sol

V wrote:


Hi Marshall,

worms have their jobs too inside and outside. If you have a truel helathy body the worms are not a problem and mostly wont stay. they are there to eat the dead matter. 


Some doctors even use maggots now to clean wounds so they heal faster. the put 
a bunch of maggots on the open wounds and the maggots eat all the dead flesh 
and dont touch the good cells and when they are done they take the maggots off 
and the would heals up real fast. they are FDA approved also. Internal 
parasites form a simialr function, and most americans have worms already.



 




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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread 4optimallife
I had it suggested to me that I use potassium bicarbonate rather than sodium 
because of the high sodium content.


I haven't gotten around to getting it yet.

Kallie Miller


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate



But wouldn't it also have a lot of salt?  High salt
intake isn't good, right?

-Ken Bagwell


--- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:


Hi Ken,

Yes it is. It allows you to take massive doses
without getting loose bowels.
One teaspoon of Vitamin C is 4000 mg

when you mix it with baking soda that it cretes
sodium ascorbate which is simialr to waht the
Emergen C dose when you put it in water when it
fizzes

the sodium ascorbate is real easy to drink I jsut
down the whole glass at once. Does not have much of
a taste




Take care,
 V


 Hi Harold,

 I haven't been following your discussion, but why
do
 you mention this recipe?  Is this a superior way
to
 take Vit C.?

 I eat a lot of the Emergen-C packets.

 -Ken Bagwell


 --- Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote:

 I mix 1 teaspoon of ascorbic acid to 1 tspn  of
 bicarbonate of soda in a dry glass,add 1 of
 water,let fizzle out,then fill 8 oz glass with
 water,then drink .  During the day I may take 1/4
 tspn of Calcium Ascorbate in juice with meals.I
have
 even put CA in wine with no problems.
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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi 4optimallife,

If you do find a good sounrce for it let me know I wolud like to try that one 
also.

Take care,
 V


 I had it suggested to me that I use potassium bicarbonate rather than sodium
 because of the high sodium content.

 I haven't gotten around to getting it yet.

 Kallie Miller


 - Original Message - 
 From: Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate


 But wouldn't it also have a lot of salt?  High salt
 intake isn't good, right?

 -Ken Bagwell


 --- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Ken,

 Yes it is. It allows you to take massive doses
 without getting loose bowels.
 One teaspoon of Vitamin C is 4000 mg

 when you mix it with baking soda that it cretes
 sodium ascorbate which is simialr to waht the
 Emergen C dose when you put it in water when it
 fizzes

 the sodium ascorbate is real easy to drink I jsut
 down the whole glass at once. Does not have much of
 a taste




 Take care,
  V


  Hi Harold,

  I haven't been following your discussion, but why
 do
  you mention this recipe?  Is this a superior way
 to
  take Vit C.?

  I eat a lot of the Emergen-C packets.

  -Ken Bagwell


  --- Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote:

  I mix 1 teaspoon of ascorbic acid to 1 tspn  of
  bicarbonate of soda in a dry glass,add 1 of
  water,let fizzle out,then fill 8 oz glass with
  water,then drink .  During the day I may take 1/4
  tspn of Calcium Ascorbate in juice with meals.I
 have
  even put CA in wine with no problems.
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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread 4optimallife
I can't say this is a good source and it looks like a reasonable source 
for those living in the US.  I live in Canada. 
http://www.holisticnurse.com/paypal_supplements.html


Kallie
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To: 4optimallife silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate



Hi 4optimallife,

If you do find a good sounrce for it let me know I wolud like to try that 
one also.


Take care,
V




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Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi 4optimallife,

Great thanks thats exactly what I would want.
I will get some and report back on what the results are.



Take care,
 V


 I can't say this is a good source and it looks like a reasonable source 
 for those living in the US.  I live in Canada. 
 http://www.holisticnurse.com/paypal_supplements.html

 Kallie
 - Original Message - 
 From: V vzo...@yahoo.com
 To: 4optimallife silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS: Sodium ascorbate


 Hi 4optimallife,

 If you do find a good sounrce for it let me know I wolud like to try that 
 one also.

 Take care,
 V



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CSSilver Kills ALL Viruses, Study Finds

2005-10-21 Thread Jim Holmes
 http://www.rense.com/general68/kills.htm
http://www.rense.com/general68/kills.htm 



CSCS:Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread Harold MacDonald
Sometime in the not too distant past,some learned person posted this 
recipe.Evidently this way makes the Vitamin C far more effective and more 
easily assimable.Also easier on a sensitive stomach.For a long time I had been 
doing the Calcium Ascorbate bit,but this new regimen jibed with some research 
info I had read in the past and forgotten.Now I do both,have to cover all bases.
Jonathan Campbell,Health Consultant ,talks about SA on his web site in 
preparing for the Avian flu: http://www.cqs.com/influenza.htm 
This is well worth the look see.
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CSRe CS: Sodium ascorbate correction

2005-10-21 Thread Harold MacDonald
My apologies V is right,I erred ,the ratio should be 1 Ascorbic to 1/2 bicarb.
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RE: CS

2005-10-21 Thread Jim Holmes
Anyone who is still eating food irradiated in a MW has probably not read the
work of Swiss Scientist Hans Hertel.

Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS

  The question then:
 Does the plastic heat more than the food?
..probably not.

 In order to do so, the plastic would have to absorb microwaves better than
the water in food.
 If it does, the plastic would probably melt while the food was still cool.
 If it doesn't, the temperature of the food would heat up the plastic but
won't likely exceed 212 deg F so long as you're not making charcoal
briquettes out of your chicken.

The temperature to pop popcorn exceeds 212 deg because the kernal is sealed
and acts like a pressure cooker, raising the boiling point of water.  At 15
PSI over atmospheric water boils at around 350 Deg F.
 Plastic microwave corn poppers abound. [Not made of Saran wrap, of course]

 Simple experiment:
 Toss a wad of Saran wrap in the microwave. [Probably not the best thing to
do to a microwave, but 'science' makes it an acceptable risk.]

I just did.  It didn't get beyond barely detectably warm...and my fingers
are cold this morning.
One minute in the nuker that would have boiled an equal volume of water
raised the temp only a few degrees.

 Conclusion:
 Saran wrap doesn't absorb microwaves worth a hoot...even less than glass.

 I'll buy the Snopes story.


Ode

At 05:04 PM 10/16/2005 -0600, you wrote:

I'm not sure it isn't true. Plastics release their chemicals when 
heated. So my guess is it is true, but has to do with the heat the 
plastic is subjected to while foods are microwaved. Which also accounts 
for the warning about fatty foods..heating greasy/oily foods in 
plastic results in melted pits in the plastic. When plastic melts it 
off-gasses. Nothing to do with the microwaves directly, but with the 
heat. Same thing would happen if you heated a tupperware container on an 
electric or gas burner, or tossed one into a fire.

So on this one, I don't think I trust Snopes at all.
sol

Connie Howard wrote:

  
  
 Sorry but not true.  For the truth go to:  (this came to me from a 
 reply on this email I forwarded)  I went to snopes.com and still came 
 away thinking there is some merit to the warning;   How do you read it?
 connie
  
 http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/d/dioxins.htm or go to:
 http://www.snopes.com/toxins/plastic.htm
  



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RE: CSAcidic lemons

2005-10-21 Thread Jim Holmes
Thank you Terry.

I can use more information about anionic.

Does that mean that the substance does not break down into ions?   Where can
I learn more about the term?

TIA,

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 3:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSAcidic lemons

Jim said,
Some authorities say that drinking lemon
juice---acidic, citric acid---is a good way to make
the body more alkaline. 

Actually, no, not more alkaline, more anionic, which
is close but not identical.

Dr. Carey Reams taught that the process of
metabolizing our food involved the interaction between
strong anionic digestive enzymes and predominantly
cationic food (all foods being either cationic or a
mixture of cationic and anionic). For the most part,
anionic equals alkaline, and cationic equals acidic.
The exception is fresh lemon juice, which would be
considered to be acidic, but which is pure anionic.
Dr. Reams used fresh lemon juice diluted in 9 parts DW
as a way to strengthen the digestive enzymes and
rebuild the liver. It is so effective it sometimes
causes a healing crisis.

After about 20 minutes exposure to the air, lemon
juice becomes cationic, unless it is diluted in DW.






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Re: CSCS:Sodium ascorbate

2005-10-21 Thread V
Hi Harold,

yeah that is a good website I wonder if teh sodium ascorbate wolud work the 
same way as the Vitamin C he is referring to because it wolud be easy to get 
teh 4000 mg then. I bougth another pound of Vitamin C after reading that 
article. trader joes carries 1 pound jars of vitamin C for 9.99




Take care,
 V


 Sometime in the not too distant past,some learned person posted this
 recipe.Evidently this way makes the Vitamin C far more effective and more
 easily assimable.Also easier on a sensitive stomach.For a long time I had
 been doing the Calcium Ascorbate bit,but this new regimen jibed with some
 research info I had read in the past and forgotten.Now I do both,have to 
 cover all bases.
 Jonathan Campbell,Health Consultant ,talks about SA on his web site in
 preparing for the Avian flu: http://www.cqs.com/influenza.htm 
 This is well worth the look see.
 Harold


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #635

2005-10-21 Thread Dino Ciccarelli
*laughs* sorry, i was looking at the actual page # as opposed to the
pdf page #...
page #25 or pdf page #13... i think i got it right this time... LOL... sorry...
dc

 When I downloaded the publication at the link, it only goes to page 21.
 Is this a glitch on my computer?
 thanks,
 sol

 Dino Ciccarelli wrote:

 
 check out page 25 on this publication on ac- vs dc-produced cs:
 
 http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf
 
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Re: CSMicrowave power supply

2005-10-21 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
Thanks
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From: V vzo...@yahoo.com
To: James McCourt, Ph.D. silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: CSMicrowave power supply


 Hi Ph.D.,

 Tyndel effect




 Take care,
  V


  ?TE means:
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From: Robert Berger
To: silver-list
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:08 PM
Subject: CSMicrowave power supply


Greetings,

Thanks for the article by Duncan Crow. That was where I got the idea
  back in 2002, but didn't like the results from brewing in a cell, when I
ran the tests with it.

My tests were run on 1/31/03 and 2/1/03  using one gallon of DW. In 10
  minutes it measures 6.82 PPM but was slightly gray in color with a very
strong T. E., 6 spacing.

Ole Bob

System Tech Engineering
Robert L. Berger
12303 E. 89th St.
Kansas City, MO 64138-5150


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Re: CS microwaving

2005-10-21 Thread Nenah Sylver


- Original Message - 
From: Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: CS


Anyone who is still eating food irradiated in a MW has probably not read 
the

work of Swiss Scientist Hans Hertel.

Jim



There is an article about microwaving (an excerpt from my Rife Handbook) on 
my website. Click on the Rife book cover at the upper left to find the 
essay. I discuss Hans Hertel's research and story because it's so 
incredible -- his government and the microwave oven industry tried to shut 
him up. It didn't work ;-)


Nenah

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CS

2005-10-21 Thread bbanever
Dear V,

 I would be interested in purchasing one of your Beck zappers.  Please let 
me know how I can go about getting one.

 Many thanks.

 Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Harris 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: Richard Harris 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:55 AM
  Subject: RE: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


  Hi Max,
  I make, sell and take a good quality CS (1 part + 2 parts Gatorade--as 
electrotyte to take the CS deeper into tissues than CS  can go alone); and also 
recommend to everyone that they add BECK (or other) zapper to your treatment. V 
made mine and I have ordered several for friends and highly recommend V's 
quality workmanship, his very reasonable price, his promptness in making and 
shipping and the FREE BECK Papers CD that he encloses with the order (which to 
me seems worth it's weight in gold) + V monitors these Sites and is handy to 
help with questions and valuable information. Many can use bG's Site for simple 
directions to be able to make their own, but if you prefer, send V an inquiry.
  Please check my Site  Blogspot (in which I offer Free 3 pages of CS Uses and 
1 page of my CS Favorites to which I refer often.
  Let me know if I might be of help.
  Sincerely,
  ___
  Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist
  448 West Juniata Street
  Clermont, FL 34711
  http://www.rharrisinc.com
  http://www.seasilver.com/reh
  http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com


-Original Message-
From: Max Sanders [mailto:mazsand...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:55 PM
To: CS
Subject: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C


Do most of you folk NOT take the flu vaccine due to your healthy distrust 
of poison in the needles, or the more positive take that Silver and other 
methods will protect?  I am interested in the various points of view.

I myself have always distrusted vaccines, but evaluate continually i.e. I 
have Hep C.  It is strongly recommended to get the antibodies to Hep A and B 
because a case of either could sink the liver. So I tried the Hep A and B 
series and my body did not make the antibodies.  So now I am retaking the 
shots, but by a travel dr or immunologist, who uses a subdermal (as opposed 
to intermuscular) technique that may help stimulate the antibodies.  I 
generally would rather not, but the risk scenario seemed OK...but then again, I 
do not know that much about this situation.

Does anyone know what a neg response to the Hep A and B vaccines means?  
The Dr's just shrug, but state that the response rate normally is in the 99% 
range (have heard different).

I still make my silver and loyally take it as one of the tools to keep me 
healthy. (I am sure my quality and potency could be better)  But my viral loads 
have remained steady, much to my dismay.  I would love, obviously, a total 
clearance.  Any new info on Hep C approaches?  I haven't asked here in a while. 
 The good news is that my liver is pretty healthy (never abused to a great 
degree and protect w Milk Thistle), and recent tests show normal liver enzymes 
for the first time in a decade.  So I have this sense that I am holding strong, 
but the virus remains in an immune system sensitive state.  As such, I feel 
vulnerable to a twist of fate that would lead to a viral explosion.  

Thanks for any and all considered responses.

Maz



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CSRob site for Silver maker

2005-10-21 Thread Deborah Gerard
Hi Rob...welcome to the group you will love it the knowledge that is exchanged 
here is awesome and extremely helpful.
Below is V's website he is on this list too...he sells one for 19.95 and 
includes a Beck c.d. and will answer any and all questions via e-mail support.
Debbie
 
http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/order.html 


CSLink to FULL TEXT of Silver Kills HIV article

2005-10-21 Thread Nenah Sylver
http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmedpubmedid=15987516

Re: CSSilver Kills ALL Viruses, Study Finds

2005-10-21 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I have been a list member for quite some time, but have not until 
recently had a personal experience of rapid healing of a cold/influenza 
by using EIS.This week, that changed with the rapid onset of a 
nasty flu-like disease,  with lung congestion, watery eyes, sneezing, 
and a generally run-down feeling.


I was not having much success with EPA/DHA fish oil, my mainstay, so I 
made 500 ml of EIS with an old-model Silvergen SG6.


Symptoms subsided considerably within a matter of hours, and I was able 
to go about my normal routine within twelve.  After less than 36 hours 
I think most of the pathogenic cause of the disease is gone.   My lungs 
are clearing well.   (I also nebulized with a portable Omron unit.)


I have been very favorably impressed by this admittedly anecdotal 
experience.The most remarkable aspect was the very strong 
subjective feeling of improvement within a few hours of ingesting the 
EIS.   Had the experience not been impressive, you can bet I would have 
posted that here also.


Anecdotes from other EIS users during this impending flu season might 
be helpful.   Nothing beats controlled experiments, of course.   
Someday those may be forthcoming, but they may not help people to 
change their behavior much, alas.   Experiments proved conclusively 
that germicidal tissues produced dramatic reductions of infection 
rates, but the company that made them could not profit from selling 
them, and that was that.   But we have EIS and spray bottles, so we can 
protect ourselves to some extent.  (I had not been doing so when I got 
sick.  My fault.  Will get back to my routine immediately. )











On Saturday, Oct 22, 2005, at 10:46 Asia/Tokyo, Jim Holmes wrote:


http://www.rense.com/general68/kills.htm



RE: CSContinous flow thru

2005-10-21 Thread Jim Holmes
I am interested Bob, bring it on.

 

Jim

 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:08 AM
To: silver-list
Subject: CSContinous flow thru

 

Greetings,

 

How would you like to make silver solution at the rate of  one gallon of 12
PPM in 5 to 6  minutes depending of the initial conductance. The pH is
greater that 8.

 

My new flow thru system using a microwave power supply and my two gallon
fish tank makes 2 gallon in 10 to 12 minutes.

 

The unit will fit in ANY size tank !!

 

Ole Bob



RE: CSCancer, lemon juice, etc.

2005-10-21 Thread Jim Holmes
Terry, Please send me the CA zip file.

Thank you,

Jim

-Original Message-
From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCancer, lemon juice, etc.

I would be interested in a copy of that zip file , thanks
V


On Oct 16, 2005, at 3:23 PM, Terry Chamberlin wrote:



 By-the-way, I have a zip file that contains a
 collection of articles about cancer that is profound.
 I will gladly send it to anyone who asks for it.

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