Re: CSvaccines and dental implants
Aren't we all allergic to thermisol?? -Raine Heather King (LCA) wrote: The release I signed before my flu shot a week ago said to NOT get the shot if you were allergic to thimerosol...they're still using it for adult, mass-produced doses as far as I can see. Don't know about childhood disease vacs. H.
Re: CSMeats, etc.
Try Mozilla.org. You can get Firefox 1.06 Waddle In a message dated 11/15/2005 6:45:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, st...@laguna.com.mx writes: Subj: Re: CSMeats, etc. Date: 11/15/2005 6:45:02 AM Pacific Standard Time From: st...@laguna.com.mx Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent from the Internet Firefox email is, I believe, called Thunderbird, a separate download. Don't know for sure, only using Firefox. stuff At 09:57 AM 11/14/2005, Marshall wrote: How do you do that? I have been using FireFox for about a year now for my browser, but still use Netscape for email because my Firefox does not have an email capability! Is it hidden? Marshall Barbara wrote: Nothing sinister, Ole Bob :) I'm using Mozilla Firefox for my browser, Outlook for the email program and Norton for virus protection. That's it. I'm innocentreally! Barbara V, Barbara, Hurd Cornstoves, your emails come through as spam. What are you doing that'ss wrong?? Ole Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com inline: Eagle.jpg
Re: CSCS dirty distilled water
If you don't support your local bureacrat, you're not supporting the pharmies. It's a chicken and egg kinda thing, ain't it. stuff At 01:53 PM 11/16/2005, jim wrote: the story i heard was about dairymen using CS to clean and disinfect the udders and teets, for mastitus. if the farmer dared to not use the prescribed disinfectants, they shut them down. the fact that these disinfectants tainted the milk and still allow some pus in the milk makes no difference. you have to support the pharmies. jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAllergic
Aren't we all allergic to thermisol?? Yes, I was reticent to going into the military during the Viet Nam war because I was allergic to lead poisoning. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSpH and calciums
Go to this site, click on Ph balance, then onAcid/Alkiline link http://www.happyherbalist.com/ph_balance.htm I didn't know whether to be offended or complimented by this website. In the middle of this page is a large paragraph lifted word-for-word right out of my literature, but used to promote their product. As it turns out, Coral calcium does have an alkalinizing affect of the body. So does Vit D, in large quantities. In reality, if you were deficient in alkaline calcium, you could eat all the alkaline-ash foods you wanted and it would not balance your pH. pH is an expression of the condition of the calciums in your body (the ratio of alkalinizing to acidifying calciums). Our bodies need both types of calciums. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwas Pool purifier now The fine line between geniusand inanity;^)
Were there spelling errors on words that never existed? Have meanings been strewn, missed and conned? This is, after all, the English Languish we're mis speaking off. I would pusstulate.. I made no mistake, there are no Bubos ..er.. Booboos...in the spoken language of Bubobics. Only missed takes, sayeth the stuttering ghost. ..know wut i'm sayin? Uh, well, no...but that least you're well and have spoken. Learn to say cueler and you could be a fizzy cyst like George. [The undespotted master of Misster King Georges English] ..oh wait, I think Dan the Quail gets that prize. [He's so mispoken that the rims fall off his buggy on a regulator bassist. He can turn a phrase like a mad machinist using a corrigendum cutting bit. He's obsoletely BRAILLIANT!..you see.] Polish up the enunciation and you could run for office, Dude. You could be the Precedent You've got the non speak of mis sense... down, Pat You could be a real good Lederer. ...Naw, no running for me with my pants 'round my knee. Besides, I awredy have a limo scene. and the right outfit to fit in with the in crowd of outcasts. [Richard Lederer, author of Anguished English PS. Don't buy that book unless you like convulsive convolutions..er..compulsive convulsions! It's deadly! Leaving it on a coffee table sends unawry guests straight to the hospitable with missive abominable cramps] Caddilac means you have to carry your own clubs from ho to ho. An oxymoron is a stupid airhead. Onomatopoeia [I peed on my feet?] Ain da ri? [ A Truant accurate Trance-elation.. Is that not co-wrecked?] My very favorite.. Belignorant [A word coined by a DeeJay friend to describe the drunken denizens of a local strip club] Seen one tittie and you've seen..anotheronerightnexttoitthatlooksjustliketheotherone. Well, that's what I always say sometimes. ..no big deal. On topic tag line: If you laugh hard enough while taking CS, nasal passages will get a good flush. [No mo sinus pseudoephed-aches?], pink eye will be cured [Gets the redoubt]...and what you listen to, will be absurd much more cuelarly. But if your nose is flush, is it still a nose? Who knows? [At least you didn't blow in off] Whelp, gotta go to de scooter sto. I'm being imitated by my modality. I can't move! I've gone too far. HELP! I've tripped and I can't get down! [that's a bummer sticker I saw] Ode At 11:01 AM 11/16/2005 -0500, you wrote: WHO NEEDS THE COMEDY NETWORK? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS POST WAS ABOUT, BUT I LAUGHED UNTIL THE TEARS WERE ROLLING DOWN MY CHEEKS. PLEASE NEVER USE YOUR SPELL CHECKERSSOME OF US LOVE IT! P.S. THANKS TO ALL WHO RESPONDED TO MY PREVIOUS POST GLADYS - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:30 am Subject: Re: CSwas Pool purifier now The fine line between genius and inanity;^) You wrote: It's a pneumonics plague filling the air! called Bubonics and it's communicable? LOL ** I thought you were going to cite the Ebonics plague... ;-)) (is that communicable?) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.12.4 - Release Date: 10/18/2005
CSpH and calciums ( Blood pH )
Morning Terry, I didn't know whether to be offended or complimented by this website. In the middle of this page is a large paragraph lifted word-for-word right out of my literature, but used to promote their product. I would think, complimented, not offended. Have you ever done any blood pH tests? I had a blood pH test done within the last year. The doctor wrote 7.46 as ideal. Also found this number another place or two. My reading was 7.51 at that time. Possibly there could be a .05 error in the test. Could this vary a small amount from day to day? Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSa simple CS maker
No generator will reliably or consistantly make 1PPM per minute unless 'Everything' is controlled and precise. Most all people who say such things control nothing. First off, how much water are you making it in? What part of the current ramp-up did you start on? Will current level off or keep accelerating? Very small variations at the start make huge differences in the end results. I order to use a timer to predict anything at all: 1] Electrode spacing and positioning must be repeatable. 2] Initial water temperature and conductivity must be exactly the same between batches. This generator is no more than 3 nine volt batteries and some wire in a box. You can get one at a fair price that may have a little bit more in it at Sunstone Herbals [$40?] You 'can' make decent CS with devices like that if you have the time to watch it. It just isn't a no brainer and many things can be added to improve performance, but won't make it automatic. Using a stir system and a PWT or COM-100 meter will help a lot. Adding a reostat and digital multimeter allows you to tell something about what's going on, how fast and do something about it. Ode At 01:24 PM 11/16/2005 -0600, you wrote: hi, can some one please tell me the difference (besides the price) between this CS maker and it is safe? compared to the silver puppy, silver gen the colloid master some of you suggested i could use that are good... heres the link www.colloidalmaker.com ...he stated for every 1 minute its on it creates 1 ppm is that true? im askin because i've never heard of the seasalt being used. thanks again chad Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.12.4 - Release Date: 10/18/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSa simple CS maker
It wonn't make 1 PPM per minute as measured with a PWT either..unless you choose exactly the right minute. They obviously didn't bother to measure anything with anything. Ode At 02:31 PM 11/16/2005 -0800, you wrote: Hi Chad, The use of sea salt went out back in 1998. Don't use it. All it does is make silver chloride first then silver ions. If one measures the product with a spectrophotometer it does not make 1 ppm per minute. They get their measurement from a PWT and that is useless. Ole Bob Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.12.4 - Release Date: 10/18/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpH and calciums ( Blood pH ) Unattributed quotation
I didn't know whether to be offended or complimented by this website. In the middle of this page is a large paragraph lifted word-for-word right out of my literature, but used to promote their product. Wayne opined: I would think, complimented, not offended. Especially when they send you their handsome cheque for the use of your intellectual property! Rowena Did you ever contact them about it? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer file
Connie, An umeboshi plum is a japanese pickled, fermented plum. It is highly alkaline and a great aid to digestion. It has been known to destroy food born pathogens and cure cases of food poisoning. It is used throughout Asia and has been a part of their traditional diet for many centuries. - Original Message - From: Connie Howard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file Nancy what is a umeboshi plum? connie On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:49:43 -0600 Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net writes: One of the best ways to make your body alkaline is to have an umeboshi plum a day. It will make your body alkaline. Nancy - Original Message - From: Doug Laurie douglau...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: CSCancer file Hi there all, Can whoever had the wonderful link for the file on cancer share it with me again? I have seem to have misplaced it and need that info for a friend who has cancer. Also the list of alkaline foods too? Thanks in advance. Laurie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release Date: 11/16/2005
Re: CSCancer file
Is it easy to get? Where does one get them? Asian Market? Health Food Store? Thanks. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:48 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file Connie, An umeboshi plum is a japanese pickled, fermented plum. It is highly alkaline and a great aid to digestion. It has been known to destroy food born pathogens and cure cases of food poisoning. It is used throughout Asia and has been a part of their traditional diet for many centuries.
Re: CSAllergic
In a message dated 11/17/2005 5:17:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca writes: Aren't we all allergic to thermisol?? Mercury is a neurotoxin, and causes a host of negative consequences, the degree and type of which depend on many other factors relative to the individual and his/her environment. However, we are not all allergic to it, or allergic to it to the same degree. This explains why only some children out of a group vaccinated with a preparation containing Thermisol(is this correct spelling?) will become autistic. In a recent post a list member was asking for assistance for autistic symptoms which developed in a child subsequent to vaccination. Another list member sent information for asthma, which was not requested, but it came out that the autistic child's mother had asthma! Asthma, of course, is related to allergies. So, we are seeing that it is the children who already have allergic sensitivities, and genetic predisposition to allergic reactions, who become autistic subsequent to vaccination. Allergic sensitivities have a genetic component. In my experience, individuals who suffer consequences of mercury toxicity may become free of same by densensitizing the allergen, without removing the mercury. An example of this would be an individual I know who chose not to have their entire dental work (including root canals, redone, with teeth pulled), but simply densensitized to the mercury, with relief of symptoms. Then I have seen cases where the neurotoxin (in this case surgical anesthesia resulting in paralysis) could no longer be expected to be affecting the subject (35 years later), yet the paralysis continued until the person was desensitized to the anesthesia. Sometimes, even upon removing the presence of the allergen, the allergic reaction continues because the body has been reprogrammed on an energetic level (blockage of energy meridians); hence, removing the physical cause (allergen) does not always take care of the problem. Jill
Re: CSnew member
Dan Nave wrote: Ole Bob wrote: Dave the question really is why are some people's messages appearing in the SPAM box Ole Bob Bob, I'll bet your spam filter didn't like Chad's new member subject line... That falls into the Penis Enlargement euphemism category and would be rejected by your spam filter... Also, I suspect that if they send to more than one recipient in the To field, it may upset your spam checker. Put these people into your address book and they should come through. Dan You don't put the people in the address book, you put the list server address in the white list. I did it years ago and never get any silver list stuff thrown out. I am not sure why he keeps asking this question when I have answered it 2 or 3 times already. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAllergic
Hi Jill, I know of NAET and TAT as energy methods for dealing with allergies - are you thinking of one of these? A note, many autistic kids (and ADHD kid for that matter) have multiple allergies. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: grace1...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: Re: CSAllergic In a message dated 11/17/2005 5:17:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca writes: Aren't we all allergic to thermisol?? Mercury is a neurotoxin, and causes a host of negative consequences, the degree and type of which depend on many other factors relative to the individual and his/her environment. However, we are not all allergic to it, or allergic to it to the same degree. This explains why only some children out of a group vaccinated with a preparation containing Thermisol(is this correct spelling?) will become autistic. In a recent post a list member was asking for assistance for autistic symptoms which developed in a child subsequent to vaccination. Another list member sent information for asthma, which was not requested, but it came out that the autistic child's mother had asthma! Asthma, of course, is related to allergies. So, we are seeing that it is the children who already have allergic sensitivities, and genetic predisposition to allergic reactions, who become autistic subsequent to vaccination. Allergic sensitivities have a genetic component. In my experience, individuals who suffer consequences of mercury toxicity may become free of same by densensitizing the allergen, without removing the mercury. An example of this would be an individual I know who chose not to have their entire dental work (including root canals, redone, with teeth pulled), but simply densensitized to the mercury, with relief of symptoms. Then I have seen cases where the neurotoxin (in this case surgical anesthesia resulting in paralysis) could no longer be expected to be affecting the subject (35 years later), yet the paralysis continued until the person was desensitized to the anesthesia. Sometimes, even upon removing the presence of the allergen, the allergic reaction continues because the body has been reprogrammed on an energetic level (blockage of energy meridians); hence, removing the physical cause (allergen) does not always take care of the problem. Jill
Re: CSpH and calciums
Terry - The HappyHerbalist is a very well-known doctor and a member in several of the yahoo groups I am a member in. Mostly he is in the Kombucha groups. Many of the members buy his products and remedies that have to do with Kombucha and herbs. Don't hesitate to contact him about this situation. He is a very kind and gentle man and only his goal is health for everyone. More than likely, he will be Happy to talk with you about it and change or modify his site. Sasha ---Original Message--- From: Terry Chamberlin Date: 11/17/05 05:26:51 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSpH and calciums Go to this site, click on Ph balance, then onAcid/Alkiline link http://www.happyherbalist.com/ph_balance.htm Rice_Field2.jpg
CSdiseased beef in non-organic commercial meat supply
This just came in from a friend. I am forwarding this not to promote fear, but to advise caution and common sense. If you forward this, please remove my name and email address. Thanks. ***Beginning of message*** I was recently visiting my mother in California and read the morning paper she had sitting on the kitchen table. I was surprised to see an article, small and not on a front page (duh) that stated they had found Mad Cow diseased cattle in Dallas. There are 413 cows that have been 'lost.' Apparently, many cows lose their ear tags when being transferred, and are just retagged. The group was accounted for except for the 413, which have apparently entered the meat industry! I think it's important to NOT buy any hamburger from any grocery store unless you know where it came from or it's organic. I personally don't buy ANY beef from any store (only organic for me!). Hamburger is the worst, as it can contain organs and blood from higher concentrations of contamination. Please, be safe. ***End of message***
Re: CSCancer file
Nancy what is a umeboshi plum? connie On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:49:43 -0600 Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net writes: One of the best ways to make your body alkaline is to have an umeboshi plum a day. It will make your body alkaline. Nancy - Original Message - From: Doug Laurie douglau...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: CSCancer file Hi there all, Can whoever had the wonderful link for the file on cancer share it with me again? I have seem to have misplaced it and need that info for a friend who has cancer. Also the list of alkaline foods too? Thanks in advance. Laurie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release Date: 11/16/2005
Re: CSdiseased beef in non-organic commercial meat supply
Nenah, Curious if you kept the clipping or made a copy?! Pete
Re: CSdiseased beef in non-organic commercial meat supply
AOL Email- Original Message - From: panamp...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: Re: CSdiseased beef in non-organic commercial meat supply Nenah, Curious if you kept the clipping or made a copy?! Pete If you re-read my message, you'll see that it came from a friend. I am not the one who saw the newspaper. Nenah
Re: CSAllergic
I think it is spelled Thimerosal and it is mercury. The mercury is used as a sterilizing agent as far as I know. Kallie - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: CSAllergic Aren't we all allergic to thermisol?? Yes, I was reticent to going into the military during the Viet Nam war because I was allergic to lead poisoning.
Re: CSAllergic
Yes, my experience is only with NAET. I am not familiar with TAT. Jill
CS
A publication of the World Chiropractic Alliance September 2002 Placebo surgery by Dr. Christopher Kent Many scientists and clinicians consider the placebo-controlled trial the gold standard for evidence-based practice. Coulter [1] notes that according to The Office of Technology Assessment, Objections are rarely if ever raised to the principles of controlled experimentation on which RCTs are based. Others have stated that placebo-controlled trials are needed to provide data on effectiveness of active treatment. [2] Interestingly, surgical procedures are often exempt from such scrutiny. Ethical considerations are considered barriers to the use of placebo-controlled investigations for surgical procedures. [3,4] Interestingly, there have been five studies where placebo surgery was used as a control. The placebo group generally did as well or better than the group receiving the real operation. In 1939, a surgeon named Feischi developed a surgical procedure for angina pectoris. He reasoned that if the blood flow to the myocardium could be increased, the symptoms of angina would diminish. It was felt that ligating the internal mammary artery would increase myocardial blood flow. The clinical results were favorable, and the operation became popular, with three-quarters of patients reporting improvement or elimination of symptoms. [5] Twenty years later, The New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) published the results of a placebo-controlled trial of internal mammary artery ligation. [6] Of 17 patients, eight got the actual operation. The other nine were anesthetized and got incisions, but nothing else. The fake operations worked as well as the real thing. As a result, internal mammary artery ligation surgery was soon abandoned. The next wave of placebo surgery involved the human brain. Fetal pig nerve cells were implanted into the brains of 10 patients with Parkinson's disease. Eight patients had holes drilled into their heads, but received no implants. It was reported that no significant improvement resulted from implanting the fetal cells of pigs into patient brains when compared with subjects who received placebo surgery. [7] A second study, involving the implantation of stem cells from aborted human fetuses into the brains of patients with Parkinson's disease, was reported in NEJM. [8] Twenty of 40 patients received sham surgery, and 20 got the real thing. Holes were drilled into the skulls of the patients receiving sham surgery. Thankfully, the authors noted that the dura was not penetrated. Some younger subjects were claimed to experience some benefit. Older subjects receiving the stem cells reported a worsening of their condition. The latest study was a controlled trial of arthroscopic surgery for osteoarthritis of the knee. A total of 180 patients with osteoarthritis of the knee were randomly assigned to receive arthroscopic debridement, arthroscopic lavage, or placebo surgery. Pain and function were assessed over a 24-month period. The result? At no point did either of the intervention groups report less pain or better function than the placebo group. [9] This investigation followed a smaller pilot study with similar results. [10] The notion of being subjected to unnecessary surgery is horrifying enough. Yet, that is only part of the story. According to one report, arthroscopic surgery for osteoarthritis of the knee is done on at least 225,000 Americans each year, termed a sham by Dr. Baruch Brody, an ethicist at Baylor College of Medicine. [11] The cost of this intervention is estimated at $3.25 billion per year. [3] The power of the placebo cannot be denied -- mobilization of the inherent recuperative powers of the body. With placebo surgery, we must ask, At what cost, and at what risk? Keep this in mind the next time someone tells you they have to have surgery. Where's the science? Or are anecdotes and conjecture good enough? References 1. Coulter H: The controlled clinical trial. An analysis. Washington (DC): Center for Empirical Medicine. Project Cure; 1991. 2. Placebo controlled trials are needed to provide data on effectiveness of active treatment (editorial). British Medical Journal 1996;313:1008. 3. Horng S, Miller FG: Is placebo surgery unethical? N Engl J Med 2002;347(2):137. 4. Weijer C: I need a placebo like I need a hole in the head. J Law Med Ethics 2002;30(1):69. 5. Stolberg SG: Sham surgery returns as a research tool. The New York Times. 4/25/99. 6. Cobb LA, Thomas GI, Dillard DH, et al: An evaluation of internal mammary artery ligation by a double-blind technic. N Engl J Med 1959;260:1115. 7. Hung M: Placebo surgery gains wider acceptance. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/411258 8. Freed CR, Greene PE, Breeze RE, et al: Transplantation of embryonic dopamine neurons for severe Parkinson's disease. N Engl J Med 2001;344(10):710. 9. Moseley JB, O'Malley K, Peterson NJ. Et al: A controlled trial of arthroscopic surgery for osteoarthritis of the knee. N Engl J Med
CSColloidal Silver LOL
Hi I just found this page, I thought it might pique your interest. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html I for one am sick of the GD mega-corps that think they can control every aspect of the consumer's life with their weasley ways. It up to people like us to do the right things for ourselves and maybe others will follow suit. It is money and it's ever-present bedfellow GREED that is killing this planet and weakening all species with horrible pollution. Ok that's my rant for the day. Keep on fighting the good fight!!! Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSColloidal Silver LOL
Well, that dr. is a quack! What else can we say.. With that being said, he is where he's suppose to be; quackwatch. -Original Message- From: Kelburn Koontz [mailto:kelbur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSColloidal Silver LOL Hi I just found this page, I thought it might pique your interest. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html I for one am sick of the GD mega-corps that think they can control every aspect of the consumer's life with their weasley ways. It up to people like us to do the right things for ourselves and maybe others will follow suit. It is money and it's ever-present bedfellow GREED that is killing this planet and weakening all species with horrible pollution. Ok that's my rant for the day. Keep on fighting the good fight!!! Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSColloidal Silver LOL
Kel, They are not killing the Planet. The way I see it is that the Planet is being Mortgaged to the hilt. Economically, politically, environmentally, spiritually, socially, it is offered to the bidders paying the greatest amount of interest. Me thinks that the worm has turned. :-) Ernie Patai epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: Well, that dr. is a quack! What else can we say.. With that being said, he is where he's suppose to be; quackwatch. -Original Message- From: Kelburn Koontz [mailto:kelbur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSColloidal Silver LOL Hi I just found this page, I thought it might pique your interest. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html I for one am sick of the GD mega-corps that think they can control every aspect of the consumer's life with their weasley ways. It up to people like us to do the right things for ourselves and maybe others will follow suit. It is money and it's Keep on fighting the good fight!!! Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Best regards, Carol ___ Never Accept Only Two Choices in Life. The problems of Today cannot be solved by the same thinking that created them. -Al Einstein. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
CSTamiflu deaths
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Re: CSColloidal Silver LOL
Nope, Quackwatch is not to be taken seriously. Barrett's a stooge for big pharma and has been discredited in many courts. Chuck This tagline isn't really very witty and it runs on and on and you'd probably be much happier reading some other tagline. Most of them aren't half as depressing as this one. Don't say I didn't warn you. On 11/17/2005 1:55:22 PM, Kelburn Koontz (kelbur...@hotmail.com) wrote: Hi I just found this page, I thought it might pique your interest. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html I for one am sick of the GD mega-corps that think they can control every aspect of the consumer's life with their weasley ways. It up to people like us to do the right things for ourselves and maybe others will follow suit. It is money and it's ever-present bedfellow GREED that is killing this planet and weakening all species with horrible pollution. Ok that's my rant for the day. 0 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer file
Thanks Nancy... Not exactly sure how to locate them but I'll try. connie On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:48:31 -0800 bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net writes: Connie, An umeboshi plum is a japanese pickled, fermented plum. It is highly alkaline and a great aid to digestion. It has been known to destroy food born pathogens and cure cases of food poisoning. It is used throughout Asia and has been a part of their traditional diet for many centuries. - Original Message - From: Connie Howard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file Nancy what is a umeboshi plum? connie On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:49:43 -0600 Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net writes: One of the best ways to make your body alkaline is to have an umeboshi plum a day. It will make your body alkaline. Nancy - Original Message - From: Doug Laurie douglau...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: CSCancer file Hi there all, Can whoever had the wonderful link for the file on cancer share it with me again? I have seem to have misplaced it and need that info for a friend who has cancer. Also the list of alkaline foods too? Thanks in advance. Laurie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release Date: 11/16/2005
Re: CSCancer file
In a message dated 11/16/05 11:47:44 PM Central Standard Time, nancym...@prodigy.net writes: One of the best ways to make your body alkaline is to have an umeboshi plum a day. It will make your body alkaline. And where would one find one of those? MA
Re: CSCancer file
Usually a stock item in Oriental Groceries. In larger health food stores they can also be found among foods geared toward the Asian and macrobiotic staples. . They usually come in packages of 6-8. They are small purplish red looking plums that have been pickled, they are extremely tart and salty tasting. marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/16/05 11:47:44 PM Central Standard Time, nancym...@prodigy.net writes: One of the best ways to make your body alkaline is to have an umeboshi plum a day. It will make your body alkaline. And where would one find one of those? MA Best regards, Carol ___ Never Accept Only Two Choices in Life. The problems of Today cannot be solved by the same thinking that created them. -Al Einstein. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: CSCancer file
In a message dated 11/17/05 3:45:46 PM Central Standard Time, saffiresk...@yahoo.com writes: Usually a stock item in Oriental Groceries. In larger health food stores they can also be found among foods geared toward the Asian and macrobiotic staples. . That lets me out -- my small, very provincial town has neither. :-( MA
Re: CSCancer file
http://www.qualitynaturalfoods.com/shopnew/umeboshi.html :) marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/17/05 3:45:46 PM Central Standard Time, saffiresk...@yahoo.com writes: Usually a stock item in Oriental Groceries. In larger health food stores they can also be found among foods geared toward the Asian and macrobiotic staples. . That lets me out -- my small, very provincial town has neither. :-( MA Best regards, Carol ___ Never Accept Only Two Choices in Life. The problems of Today cannot be solved by the same thinking that created them. -Al Einstein. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: CSColloidal Silver LOL
http://www.quackpotwatch.org/ You can get the run down on Dr quack here. Nope, Quackwatch is not to be taken seriously. Barrett's a stooge for big pharma and has been discredited in many courts. Chuck This tagline isn't really very witty and it runs on and on and you'd probably be much happier reading some other tagline. Most of them aren't half as depressing as this one. Don't say I didn't warn you. On 11/17/2005 1:55:22 PM, Kelburn Koontz (kelbur...@hotmail.com) wrote: Hi I just found this page, I thought it might pique your interest. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html I for one am sick of the GD mega-corps that think they can control every aspect of the consumer's life with their weasley ways. It up to people like us to do the right things for ourselves and maybe others will follow suit. It is money and it's ever-present bedfellow GREED that is killing this planet and weakening all species with horrible pollution. Ok that's my rant for the day. 0 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --
CSDoes Silver Kill Mites??
Hi all. I originally saw this claim in a Sharper Image catalog we received in the mail but I just checked their website to see if I could find the claim there as well and this what I found. I highlighted the anti mite claim. Naturally antibacterial. Sharper Image's Contour-Foam⢠Silver slippers feature insoles of viscoelastic foam that's infused with microscopic particles of silver â the antibacterial product of the latest nanotechnology. These ultra-fine nanoparticles cannot be seen or felt but they really enhance these slippers by killing or reducing the growth of odor-causing bacteria and of fungus that can irritate your skin. This nanosilver is a mineral that is safely used in many everyday products â such as adhesive silver bandages â because of its all-natural anti-mite, anti-mold and anti-microbe properties. My understanding is that silver only kills single celled organisms. Does anyone on the list have any documentation of silver killing organisms as complex as mites? TIA -- LTR Registered Linux user #280295 it...@kvremcwb.com
CSLangsley ; Silver
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Re: CSRe: CS for varicose veins
The Vitamin E I can't even remember-that's been stored in my brain for a long time waiting for an excuse to come out. The copper is based off of the information on the Dead Doctors Don't Lie audio tape although I have a cassette I think there is a cd and a book now, maybe check your local library. People [online only] have told me that it works but E in super high doses I guess should never be used with another kind of efficient blood-thinner natural or artificial because it is so efficient at that by itself. -Liam
Re: CSCancer file
I think it is a life saver: http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/paramahamsa/umeboshi.htm - Original Message - From: Connie Howard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file Nancy what is a umeboshi plum? connie On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:49:43 -0600 Nancy DeLise nancym...@prodigy.net writes: One of the best ways to make your body alkaline is to have an umeboshi plum a day. It will make your body alkaline. Nancy - Original Message - From: Doug Laurie douglau...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: CSCancer file Hi there all, Can whoever had the wonderful link for the file on cancer share it with me again? I have seem to have misplaced it and need that info for a friend who has cancer. Also the list of alkaline foods too? Thanks in advance. Laurie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release Date: 11/16/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release Date: 11/17/2005
Re: CSCancer file
http://www.nextag.com/buyer/outpdir.jsp;jsessionid=F2C001CBD9983C96925ED2800DB80ECD?nxtg=26450a1c050e-60BDABF18D0D369Fsearch=umeboshi+plum $12.88 for 7 oz. http://www.qualitynaturalfoods.com/shopnew/umeboshi.html $49. 2.2lb tub http://www.simply-natural.biz/Natural-Ume-Plums.php 38.50 2.2lb tub - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file Is it easy to get? Where does one get them? Asian Market? Health Food Store? Thanks. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:48 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file Connie, An umeboshi plum is a japanese pickled, fermented plum. It is highly alkaline and a great aid to digestion. It has been known to destroy food born pathogens and cure cases of food poisoning. It is used throughout Asia and has been a part of their traditional diet for many centuries. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release Date: 11/17/2005
Re: CSCancer file
Nancy, Goldmine Natural Foods has a great selection of umeboshi plums. http://www.goldminenaturalfood.com/ Generally speaking the older the better... and organic if possible. - Original Message - From: Nancy DeLise To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: CSCancer file http://www.nextag.com/buyer/outpdir.jsp;jsessionid=F2C001CBD9983C96925ED2800DB80ECD?nxtg=26450a1c050e-60BDABF18D0D369Fsearch=umeboshi+plum $12.88 for 7 oz. http://www.qualitynaturalfoods.com/shopnew/umeboshi.html $49. 2.2lb tub http://www.simply-natural.biz/Natural-Ume-Plums.php 38.50 2.2lb tub - Original Message - From: Lea Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file Is it easy to get? Where does one get them? Asian Market? Health Food Store? Thanks. Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:48 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer file Connie, An umeboshi plum is a japanese pickled, fermented plum. It is highly alkaline and a great aid to digestion. It has been known to destroy food born pathogens and cure cases of food poisoning. It is used throughout Asia and has been a part of their traditional diet for many centuries. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/174 - Release Date: 11/17/2005
Re: CSdiseased beef in non-organic commercial meat supply
Better yet, don't eat red meat at all. Abstinence works! - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:27 AM Subject: CSdiseased beef in non-organic commercial meat supply This just came in from a friend. I am forwarding this not to promote fear, but to advise caution and common sense. If you forward this, please remove my name and email address. Thanks. ***Beginning of message*** I was recently visiting my mother in California and read the morning paper she had sitting on the kitchen table. I was surprised to see an article, small and not on a front page (duh) that stated they had found Mad Cow diseased cattle in Dallas. There are 413 cows that have been 'lost.' Apparently, many cows lose their ear tags when being transferred, and are just retagged. The group was accounted for except for the 413, which have apparently entered the meat industry! I think it's important to NOT buy any hamburger from any grocery store unless you know where it came from or it's organic. I personally don't buy ANY beef from any store (only organic for me!). Hamburger is the worst, as it can contain organs and blood from higher concentrations of contamination. Please, be safe. ***End of message***
