Re: CS>Lichen Planus

[Dan Nave]

Ross Craig wrote:

Not to change the subject of wd40 or anything, but has anyone had 
experience with Lichen Planus.?
 
It is normally expressed in skin eruptions, but can also be located in 
mucus membranes. My sister has it on her chest and is now wondering if 
it can be the cause of (her MD's)  concerns with her colon, (just had a 
colonoscopy no results yet)  and very recent severe reactions to seafood.
 
She also has HH (iron overload) and I am wondering if there is any if 
anyone here knows more than the usual stuff you get when googling a 
medical term.
 
And it's the weekend so  the list is slow and I thought a new question 
might be appros today.





See homeopathy for Lichen Planus.

You may want to look into chelation with IP6 for Iron Overload.



http://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/report.asp?story=Iron%20and%20Chelation&catagory=Iron,%20Chelation

Phytic acid--also called inositol hexaphosphate, or IP6--is comprised of 
six phosphorus molecules and one molecule of inositol. It has been 
mistakenly described for decades as an "anti-nutrient" because it 
impairs mineral absorption. However, in the 1980s food biochemist Ernst 
Graf, Ph.D., began to tout phytic acid for its beneficial antioxidant 
properties achieved through mineral chelation.32


Phytic acid in foods or bran should be distinguished from supplemental 
phytic acid, which is derived from rice bran extract. In foods, phytic 
acid binds to iron and other minerals in the digestive tract and may 
interfere with mineral absorption. As a purified extract of rice bran, 
taken between meals so it will not bind to minerals in the digestive 
tract, phytic acid is readily absorbed into the bloodstream, where it 
acts as a potent mineral chelator.33 Phytic acid binds to any free iron 
or other minerals (even heavy metals such as mercury, lead and cadmium) 
in the blood, which are then eliminated through the kidneys. Phytic acid 
removes only excess or unbound minerals, not mineral ions already 
attached to proteins.


Phytic acid is such a potent--but safe--iron and mineral chelator that 
it may someday replace intravenous chelation therapy such as the 
mineral-chelator EDTA or iron-binding drugs such as desferrioxamine 
(Desferal). Because of its ability to bind to iron and block iron-driven 
hydroxyl radical generation (water-based) as well as suppress lipid 
peroxidation (fat-based), phytic acid has been used successfully as an 
antioxidant food preservative.34


Phytic acid supplements should not be taken during pregnancy since the 
developing fetus requires minerals for proper development. Because 
aspirin causes a small loss of blood and consequently helps to control 
iron levels, the simultaneous use of phytic acid with a daily aspirin 
tablet is not advised. A three-month course of phytic acid should 
achieve adequate iron chelation, and prolonged daily supplementation may 
lead to iron-deficiency anemia. Anemic individuals who take phytic acid 
as a food supplement are likely to feel weak shortly after consumption, 
whereas iron-overloaded individuals are likely to feel increased energy.


For those at risk for iron overload, it may be wise to avoid iron in 
multivitamins and shun fortified foods that provide more than 25 percent 
of the recommended daily intake for iron. No doctor should prescribe 
iron tablets for patients who complain of fatigue without blood tests 
and a thorough health history. Iron-rich foods such as red meat and 
molasses may prevent anemia and build strength during the growing years 
but in adulthood may lead to iron overload among men and postmenopausal 
women. Those individuals who learn how to achieve iron balance will 
maintain the most desirable state of health throughout life.



Bill Sardi is a health journalist and consumer advocate in Diamond Bar, 
Calif. He recently published The Iron Time Bomb (Bill Sardi, 1999).


References


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CS>CS:> Quote for the day

[Harold MacDonald]

"Health is the crown on the well man's head that only the sick can see." 
Author unknown

When I double distill H2O for CS making,it has a slightly bitter taste.I use a 
special made xformer  at 27 V,rectified and smoothed to 32 VDC open circuit.In 
32 oz. of H2O at 1ma I let it run approx 12 to 14 hrs.This has a very slight 
metallic taste,no cloudiness and no agglomeration.When I want it for the best 
tasting coffee and drinking[single distilled H2O],I add approx. 35 to 40 drops 
of Concentrace  minerals per gallon[US].This brings the Ph up to approx 7.1and 
sweetens the taste.
Harold

CS>Mild Silver Protein Production.

[david]

Hi.

Does anyone know exactly how mild silver protein is made?  I know  
it's silver particles coated in something like gelatin, but how are  
the actual silver particles produced? Are they pulverised or ground?   
Are they dissolved by acid? Are they pure silver, or are they  
crystals of silver nitrate or something else? I've tried googling for  
this but can't find anything very informative.


Regards
David



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Re: CS>Lichen Planus

[Ross Craig]

Thank you, I will...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Malcolm Stebbins 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:58 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Lichen Planus


  I suggest you contact the moderator of the microelectricitygermkiller list on 
yahoo; he had it and got rid of it.

  microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com


  At 06:05 PM 5/6/06 -0400, you wrote:


Not to change the subject of wd40 or anything, but has anyone had 
experience with Lichen Planus.?
 
It is normally expressed in skin eruptions, but can also be located in 
mucus membranes. My sister has it on her chest and is now wondering if it can 
be the cause of (her MD's)  concerns with her colon, (just had a colonoscopy no 
results yet)  and very recent severe reactions to seafood.
 
She also has HH (iron overload) and I am wondering if there is any if 
anyone here knows more than the usual stuff you get when googling a medical 
term.
 
And it's the weekend so  the list is slow and I thought a new question 
might be appros today.


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CS>Fw: Re: poison ivy

[charles Sutton]

>
>I haven't tried this one but it should work..
>
>When I were a youngster I would get into poison ivy regularly. When the =
>first blisters would erupt, Mom would be sure to dry the oozing to a =
>crust with a hair dryer then put "Testors" type plastic model glue all =
>over the eruption and surrounding skin to keep air from the thing. Care =
>was taken to keep the covering of glue sealed. In a couple of days the =
>eruption drys up and peels off without scarring
>


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Re: CS>Lichen Planus

[Malcolm Stebbins]

Oops! try this one, might work better.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/



At 06:05 PM 5/6/06 -0400, you wrote:

Not to change the subject of wd40 or anything, but has anyone had 
experience with Lichen Planus.?


It is normally expressed in skin eruptions, but can also be located in 
mucus membranes. My sister has it on her chest and is now wondering if it 
can be the cause of (her MD's)  concerns with her colon, (just had a 
colonoscopy no results yet)  and very recent severe reactions to seafood.


She also has HH (iron overload) and I am wondering if there is any if 
anyone here knows more than the usual stuff you get when googling a 
medical term.


And it's the weekend so  the list is slow and I thought a new question 
might be appros today.



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Re: CS>Lichen Planus

[Malcolm Stebbins]

I suggest you contact the moderator of the microelectricitygermkiller list 
on yahoo; he had it and got rid of it.


microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com


At 06:05 PM 5/6/06 -0400, you wrote:

Not to change the subject of wd40 or anything, but has anyone had 
experience with Lichen Planus.?


It is normally expressed in skin eruptions, but can also be located in 
mucus membranes. My sister has it on her chest and is now wondering if it 
can be the cause of (her MD's)  concerns with her colon, (just had a 
colonoscopy no results yet)  and very recent severe reactions to seafood.


She also has HH (iron overload) and I am wondering if there is any if 
anyone here knows more than the usual stuff you get when googling a 
medical term.


And it's the weekend so  the list is slow and I thought a new question 
might be appros today.



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RE: CS>WD 40 Warning

[Malcolm Stebbins]

"Known Toxins"??  Considering the Extremely common use of WD 40 for 
its intended purposes and the so-far Total lack of cites ( "... other than 
hearsay testimonials", of course) for its imputed toxicity, coupled with 
the many claims for damages brought against manufacturers of "safer 
choices" for arthritic insults, the topic has left the realm of reason for 
the arena of the language wars.  Its location on the silver list is moot.


At 01:57 PM 5/6/06 -0700, you wrote:


Ed, JBB, venerable Moderator Mike,

Since the subject of WD40 as a benign remedy for Arthritis etc. was 
brought forth for discussion on the Open CS list moving it to the OT would 
be a diservice to those who might be led or left with the impression that 
suggesting such a remedy is safe and without ramifications. mho.


It would be prudent for anyone suggesting or condoning such a remedy to 
provide  something, anything,  other than heresay testimonials 
that  would  refute the obvious danger of using known toxins to improve a 
condition that is treatable with safer choices.


Carol Ann

Ed Kasper  wrote:

JBB, I think it moves your point that we should have
discussions like this so that truth and reality are exposed.
People and good intending folks should freely hear and
discuss all matters including urban legends. I find it
commendable that someone fires a warning shot when they
suspect another is not acting reasonable. We should not be
afraid of discussions, and opinions, no matter how long
winded, boring and irrelevant I may think they are...

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.



-Original Message-
I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to
keep a close
eye on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you
site
below. I can not image anyone using a product with
petroleum
distillates on the skin for medical purposes, and
particularly not on a
routine basis. We need to be careful about discussions of
this kind,
which should go on the Off Topic list.

JBB


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Re: CS>Dangers of Colloidal Silver

[Chuck Word]

>From: Carol Ann 

>Subject: Re: CS>Dangers of Colloidal Silver

 

>Chuck,

>I didn't get the impression that the lady was at all hostile.  Just 

>curiouswith an inquiring mind. I must say that >although people say its
just soo easy to make CS you have to admit that >making GOOD quality CS is
not so easy a task, >takes time, trial and error.  .

 

Carol,

I agree, I think I jumped the gun on that one. It does take time and
practice. I've had more than my share of (CS) batches that could have
starred in some Sci-Fi horror movie.

 

I'm also a little embarrassed about my panic attack concerning the "dangers
of CS" article. I should have done my homework or at least recalled what I
found back a few years ago when I first became involved with Colloidal
Silver before (re)posting that article. One good source of information is at
silvermedicine.org. This link especially I found helpful: 

 

http://www.silvermedicine.org/safety.html

 

It doesn't look like to me they have updated in a while but that doesn't
change the value what is already up on the site...I shall now go quietly
back to my corner and lurk.   :-)

 

 

Chuck

Re: CS>WD 40 Warning

[Malcolm Stebbins]

Hi Jonathan, and others,
I'd like to offer some comments on the subject, not only relating to WD but 
to "discussions of this kind" generally; I value them.


I use WD 40 regularly for its intended purposes, contact with my skin and 
no doubt my lungs via nasal passages, is common, and unavoidable.  I have 
also discovered that 'application' of other petroleum products,specifically 
diesel for one, despite the current outcries of its evils is helpful in 
eliminating the rash of poison oak (rhus diversiloba).  Hey, whaddya know, 
it works!  (well, for me.)  People find things out by trying them, and 
noticing the results; that's not irresponsible.  Condemning or condoning on 
the basis of opinion only is irresponsible.


How do you (generic 'you') think the beneficial antibacterial etc., effects 
of CS were first discovered?  Government labs?  Large pharma 
companies?  Not Likely!


I hadda put that in, not to keep the Dreaded Mike from eating me alive,  
but to point out that we're the beneficiaries of just this sort of 
anecdotal shenanigans.  We CS listers specifically.  We may not have the 
whole story at first - or ever - but that's hardly reason to disparage the 
observations.  "Folklore", after all, should not be considered a 
pejorative.  "Quackwatch" OTOH, is another matter.


By the bye, I just reviewed the list depending from the hazmap ref. below; 
it includes isopropyl alcohol (e.g. rubbing alcohol), ethyl alcohol 
(booze), gasoline (but not tetraethyl lead), many chlorinated and/or 
aromatic hydrocarbons of course, but nary a mention of the quantities 
considered harmful which range from a few ounces to even the smallest 
amounts, nor the route of exposure.  In other words as is the case for many 
cites it is an inappropriate tool for most purposes, including the purposes 
of this discussion.


Yours for clarity,
"Petroleum Jelly"

At 01:42 PM 5/6/06 +0900, you wrote:

I think that our excellent moderator, Mike, might want to keep a close eye 
on discussions of this kind, for exactly the reasons you site below.   I 
can not image anyone using a product with petroleum distillates on the 
skin for medical purposes, and particularly not on a routine basis.   We 
need to be careful about discussions of this kind, which should go on the 
Off Topic list.


JBB


On Saturday, May 6, 2006, at 02:16 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

Truthfully, Jonathan.  If someone were to post a Quack Watch warning or 
advisement that enthusiastic proponents of Colloidal Silver also consider 
if not outright advise using WD-40 for the treatment of arthritis and 
rheumatism I would not fault them.


One wonders why alt health has a difficult time recovering from and/or 
avoiding a bad reputation.  Such recommendations, even by 
association,  puts CS in the same medical category as WD-40Folklore.


"Jonathan B. Britten"  wrote:

See also:

http://hazmap.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hazmap_generic?tbl=TblDiseases&id=326

JBB



On Friday, May 5, 2006, at 17:45 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

> There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin. Please see
> the link below.
>
> http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm
>
> NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an
> ingredient.
>
> I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product.
>
>
> JBB
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Re: CS>Large volume production of EIS

[Robert Berger]

 
  Sorry for the omission.
   
  The Plate cathode run brewed for 2.5 hours.
   
  The Rod cathode run brewed for 3.5 hours.
   
  "Ole Bob"

Dan Nave  wrote:
  That is an interesting experiment Bob.

You didn't say how long it took to do the two brews.

It appears that it took 35% more energy to complete the first brew with 
the plate cathode. If the electrolysis of the silver is consistent, as 
implied by the Faraday equation, then the plate cathode cell took 35% 
more silver to make about the same amount of ionic silver. That means 
that an extra 35% silver is either plated out or agglomerated somehow so 
that it is not measurable as silver ions...

Dan

Re: CS>WD 40 Warning

[Malcolm Stebbins]

For what it's worth, I've used both kerosene and diesel on skin rashes due 
to poison oak; diesel works very well, far better than any other remedy (?) 
I've tried.  I speculate this is due to it's solvent ability to "pull" or 
perhaps sequester the volatile oils of the Rhus plant and promote their 
evaporation along with the diesel.


WD contains not only hydrocarbon solvents but also some waxes which remain 
after the solvents evaporate, thus providing some cover-protection from 
corrosion.  What this does for my relatively non-metallic skin I couldn't 
say. 


At 12:57 PM 5/5/06 -0700, you wrote:


There is space given to the wd40 recommendation in a Readers Digest
publication they are currently mailing out.

- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan B. Britten" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:45 AM
Subject: CS>WD 40 Warning


> There has been talk here about using WD 40 on the skin.   Please see
> the link below.
>
> http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/w/wd_40.htm
>
> NB there is no mention of DMSO, which someone suggested might be an
> ingredient.
>
> I think it would be quite risky to expose oneself to this product.
>
>
> JBB
>
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Re: CS>About Water

[Malcolm Stebbins]

Hi,
Reverse osmosis water still has the dissolved components, organic and/or 
mineral, that are able to pass the R.O. barrier; these are small ionic 
(usually) parts of compounds which  can  squeeze through the pores of the 
RO membrane under pressure or by diffusion.  They are often removed by 
putting a De-Ionizing cartridge into the system following the RO 
cartridge.  The DI cartridge has resin beads in it much like a home water 
softener, but a mixture of both positive and negative ion trapping beads 
rather than a single polarity like the usual home setup.  In my own system 
I measure perhaps 20 micro-Siemens conductivity after RO, but  less than 
0.1 micro-Siemens after a pass through the DI cart.; not surprising 
considering that the DI's job is to remove conductive ions, yes?


On the question of the presumed acidity of pure water; generally what is 
measured is the presence of slight amounts of dissolved carbon dioxide - 
i.e., carbonic acid - which results from the water being exposed to plain 
old air for a few minutes.  This is hard to avoid.   In any case it is 
thoroughly inconsequential since any imagined effects could be completely 
circumvented by eating a small sprig of parsley or a nibble of broccoli, or 
for that matter simply relying on the rich soup of one's own stomach 
contents.  This is not to say that there is no such thing as mineral 
deficiency in diets and people,  but such are relatively massive lacks and 
best addressed through dietary supplementation; drinking a little DI water 
isn't going to make a measurable diff.


Regarding your questions;
1)  I don't know, haven't measured it, expect it varies, but possibly it 
will be "acid" since silver is a metal;  one question is, are we making 
more dissociated silver hydroxide or hydrogen argide?  OTOH, the particles 
(having just addressed the indeterminate nature of the ions) are generally 
assumed to have a negative potential, so I'd come down on the side of "acid".


2)  Generally I drink RO water, cook with "tap" water since my tap water is 
pretty good (except after the first rain of winter) and comes from my 
spring, and go back and forth between tap, RO and RO + DI just to see what 
diff in taste I can detect; coffee tastes better made with plain RO.


3)  Dunno, but . . .  the skin, as the largest 'organ' of the body both 
excretes and absorbs water, and is a high quality RO membrane in its own 
right.  Beyond that, several members most notably Brooks Bradley, have 
recommended gatorade or other similar balanced electrolytes as the best way 
to re-hydrate; I'd take his word on it.


Hope this helps, take care, Malcolm

At 03:33 PM 5/5/06 -0400, you wrote:


Hi everyone:

My CS production seems to be going very well, thanks to all who provided a 
helping hand.  However, now,  I have a question about water.  In all the 
sources I have checked about the kind of water to be used for CS, they 
recommend distilled water.  A friend of mine was asking me if 'reverse 
osmosis' could be used as well, and this is what prompted me to embark 
onto yet another search on water quality.


What I found suggests - and not surprisingly so - that distilled and 
reverse osmosis water are devoid of minerals.  This absence of minerals is 
then said to contribute to these types of waters having an acidic 
PH.  Now, if I remember correctly (and please correct me if I am wrong), 
when the body is fed large amounts of acidic substances, minerals are 
leached from bones, teeth, etc. to 'buffer' this acidity to re-establish 
an internal PH balance.  In this respect, is then seems that 
distilled/reverse osmosis water is more hurtful than beneficial for the 
human body.  Any thoughts?


My questions are as follows:

1) It is recommended to use distilled water for the production of CS to 
prevent harmful reactions that may occur with the presence of other 
minerals in the water (so I've been told).  What is the PH of the 
resulting CS solution?


2) When you drink water which doesn't contain silver colloids, do you 
still drink distilled water?  'Reverse osmosis' water?  Or mineral water? 
(no point mentioning tap water)


3) Which type of drinking water, in your opinion, is best to hydrate the 
body (when ingested of course)?



Maryau


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Re: CS>Large volume production of EIS

[Dan Nave]

That is an interesting experiment Bob.

You didn't say how long it took to do the two brews.

It appears that it took 35% more energy to complete the first brew with 
the plate cathode.  If the electrolysis of the silver is consistent, as 
implied by the Faraday equation, then the plate cathode cell took 35% 
more silver to make about the same amount of ionic silver.  That means 
that an extra 35% silver is either plated out or agglomerated somehow so 
that it is not measurable as silver ions...


Dan



Robert Berger wrote:

Greetings listers,
 
On April 28 John McLean posted about making 5 gallons of EIS in 8 hrs. 
using a modification of my book's layout on pages 29-30, by using a 
large flat cathode instead of the rod. He obtained a reading of 25 uS/cm 
with a TDS meter. What is missing is the TDS reading after 15- 20 hours 
as the conductive always drops.
 
This work inspired me to verify his protocol, so I made a brew using a 
flat cathode of the same size as the anode and spaced at 3". Then I 
repeated the experiment by making a run using the book protocol of 1/4" 
rod cathode. I used 45 volts to shorten the time.
 
EXPERIMENTAL DATA:
 
Flat cathode:

Initial DW conductance = 1.1 uS/CM; Cfinal = 20.2 uS; C18 hrs = 18.0 uS/cm
Initial current = 9.8 mA; final current = 61.2 mA.
Silver  Ag+ = 11.66 ppm  as measured with my spectrophotometer.
Energy input in watt-hrs = 3.798
 
1/4" rod cathode:

Initial DW conductance - 1.1 uS/cm; Cfinal = 20.1 uS; C17 hrs. = 17.0 uS/cm
Initial current =3.6 mA; final current = 36.2 mA.
Silver Ag+ = 13.2 PPM (Spect.)
Energy input in watt-hrs = 2.796
 
Based on these two brews the flat cathode is unacceptable.
 
The problem with using a TDS is the loss of sensitivity at the zero end. 
I replaced my TDS with a PWT.
 
"Ole Bob"
 
 





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Re: CS>Dangers of Colloidal Silver

[Carol Ann]

Chuck,
I didn't get the impression that the lady was at all hostile.  Just curious 
with an inquiring mind. I must say that although people say its just soo easy 
to make CS you have to admit that making GOOD quality CS is not so easy a task, 
takes time, trial and error.  I've had several batches that were clear and went 
like tea after settling and some batches that remained clear with satisfactory 
pmms.and save slight differences in productionie time, switching 
electrodes, quality of water, cleanliness and condition of equipment, not all 
batches are equal and not all makers have sufficient patience, perseverance or 
knowledge.  

So, I would conclude that realistically speaking it is not  as simple as  some 
would have  one believe.  I am not knocking CS  or those who use it , (myself 
included) just stating what simplicity proponents would rather not acknowledge. 
 Although the makers of the constant current equipment make the job easier by 
eliminating most of the hazards it remains a process that improves with 
experience and time with non mass produced vendor equipment. 

Chuck Word  wrote: I pulled this off another group on Yahoo. 
I found it very distributing, not because I  believe it is true but because I 
don't know how to rebut it. The two links in the post are to an article written 
by a self-styled "Health Consultant" warning of the dangers of CS. 
   
  The first major error I noticed in the article was linking argyria to the use 
of CS. Anyone who spends any time researching Colloidal Silver knows argyria 
has never been associated with use of CS. As far as I understand it, this is a 
(possible) outcome of excessive (whatever that is) intake of silver proteins. 
Also, the author seems to have a problem with the makers of Sea Silver (??!!) 
which I think can easily be dismissed. What bothers me is what he has to say 
about silver toxicity and it's build up in the body. I don't have an easy 
answer to that and I was hoping someone on the list may be able to better  
address this.
   
  One other thing - the person who posted this link seems to be hostile towards 
those that make CS equipment - this is not my view point at all and I am only 
including it because it is part of the original post.
   
  Chuck
   
  Here it is:
   
Date: Fri May 5, 2006 11:42pm(PDT)
  Subject: Colds and Influenza - General tips for COLDS and FLU
   
  Posted by : Annie A...
   
  Although most who have tried Colloidal Silver, swear by its efficacy, I can't 
help wondering why Jonathan Campbell - Health Consultant in the USA is so 
totally opposed to its use. :shock: 
   
  His reasoning may be viewed here:
   
   
  The Silver Hoax :frown: 
  http://www.cqs.com/#silver
  
   
  Silver - The Dark Side of a New Health Craze :evil: 
  http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm
  
   
  In any case, it's definitely not as simple to make oneself, as is so often 
falsely advertised by CS device manufacturers. 
   
  
  Best you judge for yourself through adequate research available on the Net.
  @nnie :wink:




  
  
  Carol Ann
   
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CS>Why's this guy got a down on CS, hidden agenda?

[Louis70653176]

Reply here:  http://www.rifeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1013&goto=newpost

Posted  by : Annie Andrey

Although most who have tried Colloidal Silver, swear by  its efficacy, I 
can't help wondering why Jonathan Campbell - Health Consultant  in the USA is 
so 
totally opposed to its use. :shock:  
His reasoning may  be viewed here:

The Silver Hoax :frown:  
http://www.cqs.com/#silver

Silver - The Dark Side of a New Health  Craze :evil: 
http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm

In any case, it's  definitely not as simple to make oneself, as is so often 
falsely advertised by  CS device manufacturers. 

Best you judge for yourself through adequate  research available on the Net.
@nnie  :wink:


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