CS>

2006-05-18 Thread Jim Holmes
 

From: David Bearrow [dav...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:49 PM
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Subject: Re: cs>brown recluse spider bite

My brother-in-law was bitten on the hand by a brown recluse. He waited a 
day to tell me. By the time he came to me his hand had swollen so bad he 
could no longer make a fist. I immediately applied a calcium bentonite clay 
hydrated with 10 ppm colloidal silver as a poultice to the bite about an 
inch thick and covering the entire back of his hand. We then wrapped it and 
secured it with an ace bandage. We changed the clay twice a day for 3 days. 
By day 3 the swelling had gone completely away and you could only see 2 
small white marks where the fangs had hit him. He suffered no necrosis.

At 04:50 PM 10/20/03, you wrote:
>Hi Becky,
>
>Although I have never seen the treatment, I have been informed by two
>users that utilizing healing clay poultices on the area greatly assist 
>recovery.
>
>Hydrating the healing clay with CS is even a better idea; I've seen 
>rapid
>responses with other types of bites.
>
>The treatment must be utilized as often as possible...  Dressings 
>changed
>about 3 times daily.  It is far better if one has some prepared and 
>utilizes it immediately upon being bitten; switching between utilizing the 
>clay and CS directly to the area.
>
>If you'd like to learn more about the art of healing clays, feel free 
>to
>visit our not-for-profit website:
>http://www.eytonsearth.org
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Jason
>
>- Original Message -
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>Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:09 PM
>Subject: cs>brown recluse spider bite
>
>Could anyone tell me how to neutralize the toxins from a brown recluse
>spider bite?  My husband has been bitten at least once, but has multiple 
>erruptions that keep occurring every few days.  He has a couple that have 
>healed, one that is pretty bad, one that is just starting to get 
>sore.  Thanks for any advise.
>
>Becky
>
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CS>Re:CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread Rowena
Wayne Fugitt had fantastic results using a variety of modalities, and the 
only longlasting injury he sustained was from heat - if my memory serves, it 
was from a hot water bottle, but I may have that wrong!  Electric current 
featured, certainly.  I kept notes I could forward, if nobody else offers 
the complete set.  Maybe they are on Wayne's website by now.
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Re: CS>Shocking a well with CS

2006-05-18 Thread Dennis Gulenchin

Do you use the 3% or 30% hydrogen peroxide?
Dennis

ransley wrote:


Francis-

You might consider shocking your well with Hydrogen Peroxide, as it will not
only kill bacteria but enough of it will clean slime out of pipes. Although
I have never shocked my well, I do have to use H2O2 to clean out one
particular drain and it works much better than Drano or Lye.

Daddybob


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Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Thank you very much.  I forwarded it.

Barbara



  My son recieved a spider bite when sleeping on a floor mattress when  in 
temporary housing after hurricane devastation to our home. It was on the top of 
his foot and quickly swelled,got infected with pus and started truning purple. 
He had chronic colitis that we had been adrressing for years and I knew 
antibiotics would set him way back. He began feeling spacey and I began giving 
high and constant amounts of Sovergn silver locally and orally. We also put hot 
compresses on and soaked his foot in warm calendula baths. The second day the 
gross purple looking swelling popped and all the pus drained. All my other kids 
stayed up to watch their brother's foot spuing out the dead matter. He 
recovered quickly and his gut problems improved too. He has a small scar on his 
foot and is now back in his home sleeping in a real bed. 

Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Thank you sol, I will forward your message to her too. 
I don't know how will she cope with the conflicting messages. 
It is not easy to decide what to do when the doctors are saying do nothing, let 
the nature take it's course. 

Barbara




  When my son had what seemed to be a brown recluse bite many years ago, the 
doctor told us to put ice on it, to help stop the spread of the thing. And he 
put him on an antibiotic right away, because infection is very common in these 
things.It sure looked infected. The doctor thought he was lucky and didn't get 
much venom as he was bitten through a sock on the foot, not on bare skin.  But 
this doctor did think that was what the bite was, he did his residency in the 
south where they are more common than here.

  At the time I had no knowledge of CS etc. But I do question putting heat on 
such a bite.
  sol



Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread GMetropulo
My son recieved a spider bite when sleeping on a floor mattress when  in 
temporary housing after hurricane devastation to our home. It was on the top of 
his foot and quickly swelled,got infected with pus and started truning purple. 
He had chronic colitis that we had been adrressing for years and I knew 
antibiotics would set him way back. He began feeling spacey and I began giving 
high 
and constant amounts of Sovergn silver locally and orally. We also put hot 
compresses on and soaked his foot in warm calendula baths. The second day the 
gross purple looking swelling popped and all the pus drained. All my other kids 
stayed up to watch their brother's foot spuing out the dead matter. He 
recovered 
quickly and his gut problems improved too. He has a small scar on his foot 
and is now back in his home sleeping in a real bed.


Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread sol
When my son had what seemed to be a brown recluse bite many years ago, 
the doctor told us to put ice on it, to help stop the spread of the 
thing. And he put him on an antibiotic right away, because infection is 
very common in these things.It sure looked infected. The doctor thought 
he was lucky and didn't get much venom as he was bitten through a sock 
on the foot, not on bare skin.  But this doctor did think that was what 
the bite was, he did his residency in the south where they are more 
common than here.


At the time I had no knowledge of CS etc. But I do question putting heat 
on such a bite.

sol

V wrote:


Hi Barbara,

Yeah maybe hot water or a heat lamp might work also.




Take care,
V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

 


Thank you V.  Maybe he should soak his arm in hot water?  But will that
water be hot enough to neutralize the enzymes?  
I doubt it.  
   



 




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Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Thank you Dan, I forwarded your message to my friend.

Barbara



  I saw an article on the web recently but can't remember where or find it 
again.

  The idea was that the spider poison constricts the blood vessels in the 
  area and causes tissue death because it can't get any blood.  Nicotine 
  dilates blood vessels so it counteracts the effect of the poison on the 
  blood vessels and allows it to be moved out of the area.

  A nicotine patch (one that has nicotine evenly dispersed across the 
  patch) is cut to be just larger than the bite, including the area that 
  is being affected by the poison and applied over the bite.  You could 
  have it monitored by a doctor if it is a child and you don't want to get 
  too much nicotine exposure. I would think that any doctor would be 
  receptive to this approach.

  Dan




Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Dan Nave
I saw an article on the web recently but can't remember where or find it 
again.


The idea was that the spider poison constricts the blood vessels in the 
area and causes tissue death because it can't get any blood.  Nicotine 
dilates blood vessels so it counteracts the effect of the poison on the 
blood vessels and allows it to be moved out of the area.


A nicotine patch (one that has nicotine evenly dispersed across the 
patch) is cut to be just larger than the bite, including the area that 
is being affected by the poison and applied over the bite.  You could 
have it monitored by a doctor if it is a child and you don't want to get 
too much nicotine exposure. I would think that any doctor would be 
receptive to this approach.


Dan


Barbara wrote:
Jim, can you elaborate on the nicotine patches, please?  My friend (or 
I) have no idea about nicotine patches.
 
Barbara
 
PS.  Forget the electrical impulses
 
 



Nicotine patches work, as does electrical impulses.

 


Do a bit of searching.

 





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Re: CS>cs and stye infection-quick input needed pls!

2006-05-18 Thread starshar

From: "Wendy" 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:57 AM


Hi there. I have a friend with a stye/eye infection. She usually can
self prescribe, but despite everything she's doing she is having some
trouble!

I left her a small bottle of cs a year ago (made with silvergen 6) to
put in her cupboard (she hasn't' delved into cs yet). I suggested she
put that in it. I have read testimonials on line about a soaked cloth in
cs as well.


If I were in your friend's shoes I would take up to 8 oz of the CS, gently 
heat it and dissolve a capsule of Dr Christopher's Eyebright formula in it. 
Let it steep for a few minutes, stir, then pour through a paper coffee 
filter. Put this solution in an old fashioned eye cup and bathe the eye like 
crazy. Every 15 minutes wouldn't hurt.


At bedtime, I'd make a clay poultice, green clay or pascalite would be fine, 
pile it into one of those eye shaped bandages you can get a drugstore and 
sleep with it over the eye.


If these don't start improving the eye within 24 hours, I'd hie me off to an 
eye doctor!


Sharon 



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RE: CS>Shocking a well with CS

2006-05-18 Thread ransley
Francis-

You might consider shocking your well with Hydrogen Peroxide, as it will not
only kill bacteria but enough of it will clean slime out of pipes. Although
I have never shocked my well, I do have to use H2O2 to clean out one
particular drain and it works much better than Drano or Lye.

Daddybob


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Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
I just sent this to her, she could try it tonight  without looking for 
stuff in a HFS.  Thanks :)

Barbara



  Hi Barbara,

  Yeah maybe hot water or a heat lamp might work also.




  Take care,
   V
  http://www.health-freedom.info/



Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread V
Hi Barbara,

Yeah maybe hot water or a heat lamp might work also.




Take care,
 V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

> Thank you V.  Maybe he should soak his arm in hot water?  But will that
> water be hot enough to neutralize the enzymes?  
> I doubt it.  

> Barbara




>   The flesh is not actually rotting from a brown recule bite it is
> disolving from enzymes the spider injects into the tissue. that is how
> they eat they liquify their food with enzymes and drink it. So if you had
> the bad fortune of being liquified then realize it is from a flesh
> nectrotizing enzyme. If you can neutralize the enzyme then it will stop
> the dissolving process. I understand enzymes are heat senistive so I
> wonder if so heat treatment would stop the process. 

>   Probably the electricity might neutralize the enzymes 

>   Take care,
>V


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Re: CS>Shocking a well with CS

2006-05-18 Thread William Missett
Unless you have a huge well, 10 gallons of CS is excessive. You should be 
able to do the job with much less, depending on the size of the cistern. 
Also, does water flow through the water table?


If you want to get creative, you could drop a couple of silver leads into 
the water, with an appropriate amount of electricity, and turn the whole 
thing into a CS generator, making the entire well turn into CS.  The 
electricity flow would probably also irritate (if not eleminate) the iron 
bugs.


You could also use colloidal copper, perhaps cheaper, if the CS doesn't eat 
the iron bugs.



- Original Message - 
From: "francis luze" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:15 PM
Subject: CS>Shocking a well with CS



A question to the Group,

BTW, you guys & girls are great, I always read what each has to say or
offer...thank you!

I'm a city slicker turned country boy 'bout 5 years ago. So I have a
well that we use for drinking water. We're lucky? Cause most people
around these parts don't drink their well water, seems they rather truck
in city water (yuk!), anyhoo I suspect they are uneducated about well
maintenance but not all. It is common practice around here to shock your
well with a solution of 15% bleach annually, just to keep the bacteria
in check. When I speak of bacteria I'm not necssarily talking about the
bad ones. The main problem around these parts is iron bacteria. Slimes
up your pipes, stains all the fixtures, makes your water smell like
rotten eggs.

I have a lab test done on my water every year for pathogenic
bacteria...so far negative...but I do have a slight problem with iron
bacteria. I have to admit, I did shock my well with 15% chlorine 5 years
ago and it did work. But now those little pests are resurfacing.

Seeing what I now know about CS, I was thinking about shocking my well
with 10 gal of 15-20 ppm CS rather than going the bleach route (yuk!).

Anybody out there tried this approach and what were your results? All I
can do is try.

I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences. Who knows maybe this
could lead to something more in tune with the cycles of nature for us
country folk.

In Love & Trust,

Francis

Up in Alberta, Canada

www.bio-plasmics.org


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CS>Shocking a well with CS

2006-05-18 Thread francis luze
A question to the Group,

BTW, you guys & girls are great, I always read what each has to say or
offer...thank you!

I'm a city slicker turned country boy 'bout 5 years ago. So I have a
well that we use for drinking water. We're lucky? Cause most people
around these parts don't drink their well water, seems they rather truck
in city water (yuk!), anyhoo I suspect they are uneducated about well
maintenance but not all. It is common practice around here to shock your
well with a solution of 15% bleach annually, just to keep the bacteria
in check. When I speak of bacteria I'm not necssarily talking about the
bad ones. The main problem around these parts is iron bacteria. Slimes
up your pipes, stains all the fixtures, makes your water smell like
rotten eggs.

I have a lab test done on my water every year for pathogenic
bacteria...so far negative...but I do have a slight problem with iron
bacteria. I have to admit, I did shock my well with 15% chlorine 5 years
ago and it did work. But now those little pests are resurfacing.

Seeing what I now know about CS, I was thinking about shocking my well
with 10 gal of 15-20 ppm CS rather than going the bleach route (yuk!).

Anybody out there tried this approach and what were your results? All I
can do is try. 

I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences. Who knows maybe this
could lead to something more in tune with the cycles of nature for us
country folk.   

In Love & Trust,

Francis

Up in Alberta, Canada

www.bio-plasmics.org 


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Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Thank you V.  Maybe he should soak his arm in hot water?  But will that water 
be hot enough to neutralize the enzymes?  
I doubt it.  

Barbara




  The flesh is not actually rotting from a brown recule bite it is disolving 
from enzymes the spider injects into the tissue. that is how they eat they 
liquify their food with enzymes and drink it. So if you had the bad fortune of 
being liquified then realize it is from a flesh nectrotizing enzyme. If you can 
neutralize the enzyme then it will stop the dissolving process. I understand 
enzymes are heat senistive so I wonder if so heat treatment would stop the 
process. 

  Probably the electricity might neutralize the enzymes 

  Take care,
   V


Re: CS>Morgellon Type Illness

2006-05-18 Thread Pat

I hope to goodness this was written by some insane
person or someone trying to create a panic!  Has
anyone looked at cotton fibers?  Let us know if
they're moving!  

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CS>Caspian Sea Yogurt...

2006-05-18 Thread debbiegerard99
Has anyone else from this list tried the CSY from Happy Herbalist, I bought the 
starter from this site and it came slightly leaking from the package and I 
followed the directions to make it, even organic milk, and it separated within 
six hours and it is not supposed to, tried it again and it separated again, I 
have sent several e-mails of concern to eddly and am getting no replyanyone 
else have this problem?
thanks debbie

Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread V
The flesh is not actually rotting from a brown recule bite it is disolving from 
enzymes the spider injects into the tissue. that is how they eat they liquify 
their food with enzymes and drink it. So if you had the bad fortune of being 
liquified then realize it is from a flesh nectrotizing enzyme. If you can 
neutralize the enzyme then it will stop the dissolving process. I understand 
enzymes are heat senistive so I wonder if so heat treatment would stop the 
process. 

Probably the electricity might neutralize the enzymes 

Take care,
 V
http://www.health-freedom.info/

> Thank you for your help pj :)  I will tell her that it is so easy.

> Barbara


>   Might google for "brown recluse bite""electricity" and see what
> you get.  Some people use a small battery on these bites with excellent 
> results.best wishes,  pj


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Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
She just told me that her son has no muscle pain (yet?) and no fever.  That 
must be a good sign, I think?  
I can send her what I have in CS and see if it helps.
Thank you Marshalee :)

Barbara 




It`s better than nothing. I was lucky that I was already on CS as a daily 
preventive, that is what saved me.
Marshalee



Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Marshalee Hallett

  It`s better than nothing. I was lucky that I was already on CS as a daily 
preventive, that is what saved me.
  Marshalee


  Marshalee, she doesn't even have CS :(  I do have half a bottle that I bought 
from Rich and I can send it to her but this is old, like 2 years old.  Will 
that be still OK internally?  

  Barbara



Dear Barbara, 
CS worked for me when I was bitten when living in Vallejo, CA. It got me on 
the face twice, no less! 
I ended up with a black scab that left a pit when it dropped, but no need 
for skin grafting, thank God!!
He needs to take CS internally, and put some on the bite. ASAP!!!
Marshalee

 



Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Thank you Edith.  Every message is forwarded to my friend.

Barbara




  I heard Dr Agatha Thrash give a talk several years ago.  She told of a case 
where a nurse had been bitten and had surgery twice but it just kept on 
rotting, for a better word.  the
  nurse was afraid of losing use of that hand which meant giving up her job.  
They did as
  Debbie mentioned.  Charcoal poultices.  If you mix with flaxseed whizzed in 
the blender with a small amount of water, it keeps the charcoal moist.  It has 
no power if it is dry.

  Edith


Re: CS>cs and stye infection-quick input needed pls!

2006-05-18 Thread Richard
For styes try using gold - as pure as possible - on the area around  
the eye- good luck - Richard

On 18/05/2006, at 17:57, Wendy wrote:



Hi there. I have a friend with a stye/eye infection. She usually can
self prescribe, but despite everything she's doing she is having some
trouble!

I left her a small bottle of cs a year ago (made with silvergen 6) to
put in her cupboard (she hasn't' delved into cs yet). I suggested she
put that in it. I have read testimonials on line about a soaked  
cloth in

cs as well.

Any thoughts as to how many drops, how often, poultice vs drops  
etc.???


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Wendy

Her email to me:



I was supposed to go to the clinic today but woke up to a very painful
very
swollen eye. Went to the walk-in- clinic and got an antibiotic  
drops. Do

I want to use it, hell no.But I run out of ideas. It is a sty that is
not localized anymore but spread onto my whole upper lid. The boys  
took

a picture of me. I really look scary and funny at the same time.

 Last Thursday at the clinic the office was covered in a 0.5cm
thick dust of yellow pollen. I never been allergic to anything in my
life other than some people. :)

By the time I got home my left eye was very itchy and watery. I did  
not

do
anything. I figured I am getting another sty.

Friday morning my eyelid were glued together. Because I never had that
with
sty I looked up pink eye.
Took Pulsatilla and Apis. Nothing happened. All weekend long my eye  
were

itchy and just a very tiny bit swollen upper lid. Monday I took
Euprhasia,
and Staphysagria. Again I have a hard time repertorising my own
symptoms. So
I took remedies for Sty and took remedies for pink eye. Monday I also
had a
pimple like white thing on my upper lid which I get with sty.

Yesterday I went to the clinic again did not take any remedy. Today
whatever
I have is much worse. My eye is in pain, my eyelid is very itchy but
because
my eye hurt so much I can't even touch it. It burns and the eye lid is
very
swollen and red.

I took again Staphysagria, Belladonna for inflammation and redness and
Hepar
Sul for infection. Nothing is happening. I am not getting better.  
Taking

6000mg Vit C, Cod Liver oil, My multivitamin, Grapefruit seed extract,
acidophilus. I even thought of candida in the eye but never heard  
of it

and
never read something like this. We see many mother at the clinic with
candida infection and accidentally I could have touched my eye while
working
with a mother who had Candida.

The reason I think it is something at the clinic as I am worse the
following
day and gets better in a two days or so but doesn't go away  
completely.





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Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Thank you very muchI'm sending this to my friend.

Barbara



  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

  If you sign up to this group and go to files there are many posts about the 
brown recluse, all fixed with a godzilla...( 6 volt batt and home made 
electrodes)




Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread EJohns9525
 
I heard Dr Agatha Thrash give a talk several years ago.  She told of a  case 
where a nurse had been bitten and had surgery twice but it just kept on  
rotting, for a better word.  the
nurse was afraid of losing use of that hand which meant giving up her  job.  
They did as
Debbie mentioned.  Charcoal poultices.  If you mix with flaxseed  whizzed in 
the blender with a small amount of water, it keeps the charcoal  moist.  It 
has no power if it is dry.
 
Edith
 
In a message dated 5/18/2006 1:27:01 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
darn_it...@hotmail.com writes:

 
Charcoal.  I say that because I'm not sure on the cs although I  would start 
drinking that down too.  
 
I have the book Rx:Charcoal by Agatha Thrash, MD and Calvin  Thrash,MD.  They 
have three cases with these bites where they  made charcoal poultices or 
compresses and changed them every 30 minutes  for about 8 hours or so and then 
lengthened the time between changes to 2 and  then 4 hours.  All cases of bites 
healed.  
 
To make a charcoal compress for it, dissolve in water a spoonful or more  of 
charcoal powder ( enough to make a sufficient paste to cover the area to be  
treated), or crush several tablets in plain water.  Spread the paste on a  
folded piece of paper toweling large enough to cover the area to be treated  
and 
mold the compress to the area.  The toweling should be moistened with  the 
paste.  Cover the compress with a piece of plastic cut from a bread  bag or 
other 
plastic bag, large enough to overlap the compress on all sides by  at least 
one inch.  
 
I'm thinking though that if you don't have charcoal that maybe clay would  be 
the next best thing since it works along the same lines of drawing toxins  
out.
 
Debbie
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: _Barbara_ (mailto:barba...@tampabay.rr.com)  
To: _silver-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:47  PM
Subject: CS>Brown recluse bite


Hi Everyone, 
 
Please, I need help for my friend's  10 year old kid that got bit by a brown 
recluse spider this last  night.  His parents took him to ER but they did not 
do anything at  ER saying that there is no antidote to this spider bite.  They 
 wanted to give the kid steroid for swelling and told them to watch it and  
when the wound turns black, take him to the doctor.  
 
I'm just thinking that there must be  something natural for it? 
Would anyone know if CS will  help?  Or anything else?  How about black 
salve?  Will that  help?  
 
If anyone knows anything, please,  share.  Thanks.
 
Barbara
 





 


Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread Ross Craig
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

If you sign up to this group and go to files there are many posts about the 
brown recluse, all fixed with a godzilla...( 6 volt batt and home made 
electrodes)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Barbara 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>brown recluse


  Thank you for your help pj :)  I will tell her that it is so easy.

  Barbara


Might google for "brown recluse bite""electricity" and see what you 
get.  Some people use a small battery on these bites with excellent results.
best wishes,  pj 


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Re: CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Thank you for your help pj :)  I will tell her that it is so easy.

Barbara


  Might google for "brown recluse bite""electricity" and see what you get.  
Some people use a small battery on these bites with excellent results.best 
wishes,  pj 

CS>brown recluse

2006-05-18 Thread Shirley Reed

   Might google for "brown recluse bite""electricity" and see what you
get.  Some people use a small battery on these bites with excellent
results.best wishes,  pj


Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Marshalee, she doesn't even have CS :(  I do have half a bottle that I bought 
from Rich and I can send it to her but this is old, like 2 years old.  Will 
that be still OK internally?  

Barbara



  Dear Barbara, 
  CS worked for me when I was bitten when living in Vallejo, CA. It got me on 
the face twice, no less! 
  I ended up with a black scab that left a pit when it dropped, but no need for 
skin grafting, thank God!!
  He needs to take CS internally, and put some on the bite. ASAP!!!
  Marshalee

   


Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Dear Barbara, 
CS worked for me when I was bitten when living in Vallejo, CA. It got me on the 
face twice, no less! 
I ended up with a black scab that left a pit when it dropped, but no need for 
skin grafting, thank God!!
He needs to take CS internally, and put some on the bite. ASAP!!!
Marshalee


  Hi Everyone, 

  Please, I need help for my friend's 10 year old kid that got bit by a brown 
recluse spider this last night.  His parents took him to ER but they did not do 
anything at ER saying that there is no antidote to this spider bite.  They 
wanted to give the kid steroid for swelling and told them to watch it and when 
the wound turns black, take him to the doctor.  

  I'm just thinking that there must be something natural for it? 
  Would anyone know if CS will help?  Or anything else?  How about black salve? 
 Will that help?  

  If anyone knows anything, please, share.  Thanks.

  Barbara



Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Darn itsme
I'm kind of lost on the idea of the patches also.  I'm trying to do a search 
about them now but I'd like to know what you have about them.

Debbie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Barbara 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:52 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Brown recluse bite


  Jim, can you elaborate on the nicotine patches, please?  My friend (or I) 
have no idea about nicotine patches.

  Barbara 

  PS.  Forget the electrical impulses 


Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Jim, can you elaborate on the nicotine patches, please?  My friend (or I) have 
no idea about nicotine patches.

Barbara 

PS.  Forget the electrical impulses 




  Nicotine patches work, as does electrical impulses. 



  Do a bit of searching. 




Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Darn itsme
Glad to be of help.  (And that I remembered where I had the book.)  

Debbie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Barbara 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:42 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Brown recluse bite


  Debbie, thank you very much for your reply.  I forwarded it to my friend. 

  Barbara




Charcoal.  I say that because I'm not sure on the cs although I would start 
drinking that down too.  

I have the book Rx:Charcoal by Agatha Thrash, MD and Calvin Thrash,MD.  
They have three cases with these bites where they made charcoal poultices or 
compresses and changed them every 30 minutes for about 8 hours or so and then 
lengthened the time between changes to 2 and then 4 hours.  All cases of bites 
healed.  

To make a charcoal compress for it, dissolve in water a spoonful or more of 
charcoal powder ( enough to make a sufficient paste to cover the area to be 
treated), or crush several tablets in plain water.  Spread the paste on a 
folded piece of paper toweling large enough to cover the area to be treated and 
mold the compress to the area.  The toweling should be moistened with the 
paste.  Cover the compress with a piece of plastic cut from a bread bag or 
other plastic bag, large enough to overlap the compress on all sides by at 
least one inch.  

I'm thinking though that if you don't have charcoal that maybe clay would 
be the next best thing since it works along the same lines of drawing toxins 
out.

Debbie




RE: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Jim Holmes
Nicotine patches work, as does electrical impulses. 

 

Do a bit of searching. 

 

-Original Message-
From: Darn itsme [mailto:darn_it...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

 

Charcoal.  I say that because I'm not sure on the cs although I would start
drinking that down too.  

 

I have the book Rx:Charcoal by Agatha Thrash, MD and Calvin Thrash,MD.  They
have three cases with these bites where they made charcoal poultices or
compresses and changed them every 30 minutes for about 8 hours or so and
then lengthened the time between changes to 2 and then 4 hours.  All cases
of bites healed.  

 

To make a charcoal compress for it, dissolve in water a spoonful or more of
charcoal powder ( enough to make a sufficient paste to cover the area to be
treated), or crush several tablets in plain water.  Spread the paste on a
folded piece of paper toweling large enough to cover the area to be treated
and mold the compress to the area.  The toweling should be moistened with
the paste.  Cover the compress with a piece of plastic cut from a bread bag
or other plastic bag, large enough to overlap the compress on all sides by
at least one inch.  

 

I'm thinking though that if you don't have charcoal that maybe clay would be
the next best thing since it works along the same lines of drawing toxins
out.

 

Debbie

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Barbara   

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:47 PM

Subject: CS>Brown recluse bite

 

Hi Everyone, 

 

Please, I need help for my friend's 10 year old kid that got bit by a brown
recluse spider this last night.  His parents took him to ER but they did not
do anything at ER saying that there is no antidote to this spider bite.
They wanted to give the kid steroid for swelling and told them to watch it
and when the wound turns black, take him to the doctor.  

 

I'm just thinking that there must be something natural for it? 

Would anyone know if CS will help?  Or anything else?  How about black
salve?  Will that help?  

 

If anyone knows anything, please, share.  Thanks.

 

Barbara

 



RE: CS>cs and stye infection-quick input needed pls!

2006-05-18 Thread Jim Holmes
It usually eliminates a sty in a matter of hours.  Just drop it in. 

-Original Message-
From: Wendy [mailto:wen...@tuxnightclub.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>cs and stye infection-quick input needed pls!


Hi there. I have a friend with a stye/eye infection. She usually can
self prescribe, but despite everything she's doing she is having some
trouble! 

I left her a small bottle of cs a year ago (made with silvergen 6) to
put in her cupboard (she hasn't' delved into cs yet). I suggested she
put that in it. I have read testimonials on line about a soaked cloth in
cs as well.

Any thoughts as to how many drops, how often, poultice vs drops etc.???

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Wendy

Her email to me:



I was supposed to go to the clinic today but woke up to a very painful
very
swollen eye. Went to the walk-in- clinic and got an antibiotic drops. Do
I want to use it, hell no.But I run out of ideas. It is a sty that is
not localized anymore but spread onto my whole upper lid. The boys took
a picture of me. I really look scary and funny at the same time.

 Last Thursday at the clinic the office was covered in a 0.5cm
thick dust of yellow pollen. I never been allergic to anything in my
life other than some people. :)

By the time I got home my left eye was very itchy and watery. I did not
do
anything. I figured I am getting another sty.

Friday morning my eyelid were glued together. Because I never had that
with
sty I looked up pink eye.
Took Pulsatilla and Apis. Nothing happened. All weekend long my eye were
itchy and just a very tiny bit swollen upper lid. Monday I took
Euprhasia,
and Staphysagria. Again I have a hard time repertorising my own
symptoms. So
I took remedies for Sty and took remedies for pink eye. Monday I also
had a
pimple like white thing on my upper lid which I get with sty.

Yesterday I went to the clinic again did not take any remedy. Today
whatever
I have is much worse. My eye is in pain, my eyelid is very itchy but
because
my eye hurt so much I can't even touch it. It burns and the eye lid is
very
swollen and red.

I took again Staphysagria, Belladonna for inflammation and redness and
Hepar
Sul for infection. Nothing is happening. I am not getting better. Taking
6000mg Vit C, Cod Liver oil, My multivitamin, Grapefruit seed extract,
acidophilus. I even thought of candida in the eye but never heard of it
and
never read something like this. We see many mother at the clinic with
candida infection and accidentally I could have touched my eye while
working
with a mother who had Candida.

The reason I think it is something at the clinic as I am worse the
following
day and gets better in a two days or so but doesn't go away completely.




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Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Debbie, thank you very much for your reply.  I forwarded it to my friend. 

Barbara




  Charcoal.  I say that because I'm not sure on the cs although I would start 
drinking that down too.  

  I have the book Rx:Charcoal by Agatha Thrash, MD and Calvin Thrash,MD.  They 
have three cases with these bites where they made charcoal poultices or 
compresses and changed them every 30 minutes for about 8 hours or so and then 
lengthened the time between changes to 2 and then 4 hours.  All cases of bites 
healed.  

  To make a charcoal compress for it, dissolve in water a spoonful or more of 
charcoal powder ( enough to make a sufficient paste to cover the area to be 
treated), or crush several tablets in plain water.  Spread the paste on a 
folded piece of paper toweling large enough to cover the area to be treated and 
mold the compress to the area.  The toweling should be moistened with the 
paste.  Cover the compress with a piece of plastic cut from a bread bag or 
other plastic bag, large enough to overlap the compress on all sides by at 
least one inch.  

  I'm thinking though that if you don't have charcoal that maybe clay would be 
the next best thing since it works along the same lines of drawing toxins out.

  Debbie




Re: CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Darn itsme
Charcoal.  I say that because I'm not sure on the cs although I would start 
drinking that down too.  

I have the book Rx:Charcoal by Agatha Thrash, MD and Calvin Thrash,MD.  They 
have three cases with these bites where they made charcoal poultices or 
compresses and changed them every 30 minutes for about 8 hours or so and then 
lengthened the time between changes to 2 and then 4 hours.  All cases of bites 
healed.  

To make a charcoal compress for it, dissolve in water a spoonful or more of 
charcoal powder ( enough to make a sufficient paste to cover the area to be 
treated), or crush several tablets in plain water.  Spread the paste on a 
folded piece of paper toweling large enough to cover the area to be treated and 
mold the compress to the area.  The toweling should be moistened with the 
paste.  Cover the compress with a piece of plastic cut from a bread bag or 
other plastic bag, large enough to overlap the compress on all sides by at 
least one inch.  

I'm thinking though that if you don't have charcoal that maybe clay would be 
the next best thing since it works along the same lines of drawing toxins out.

Debbie


  - Original Message - 
  From: Barbara 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:47 PM
  Subject: CS>Brown recluse bite


  Hi Everyone, 

  Please, I need help for my friend's 10 year old kid that got bit by a brown 
recluse spider this last night.  His parents took him to ER but they did not do 
anything at ER saying that there is no antidote to this spider bite.  They 
wanted to give the kid steroid for swelling and told them to watch it and when 
the wound turns black, take him to the doctor.  

  I'm just thinking that there must be something natural for it? 
  Would anyone know if CS will help?  Or anything else?  How about black salve? 
 Will that help?  

  If anyone knows anything, please, share.  Thanks.

  Barbara


RE: CS>CS question

2006-05-18 Thread Jim Holmes
Many years ago, I made water with a Grander-type  water modification device;
a clamp-on ceramic  roughly football-shaped split with a groove for the
pipe. 

I sent Bruce Marx some silver made with it, and he sent it to a TEM for a
picture.  The particles were all clumped together.  

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS question

At 05:23 PM 5/17/2006 -0500, you wrote:

>1. Would using magnetized water or ozenated water to make EIS effect it 
>one way or the other?

**  I find that using heavily ozonated water oxidizes the silver ions.
  If the jug is left uncapped for several days, it no longer does.
  Virtually all distilled water in the USA is ozonated,  but it doesn't 
stay for long.

>2. Would Ozenating or magnetizing EIS after the fact effect it one way or 
>the other?

**  I've never seen a magnet affect CS one way or another at any 
timeand I've used some real finger snippers trying. [The kind that send 
shrapnel flying if they clack together too hard and must be slid off iron 
surfaces]
I know of one person that claims that ferrite rings affect his CS but, 
no "proof".

Ode

>
>
>
>
>On 5/17/06, Robert Berger 
><bober...@swbell.net> wrote:
>Do not boil the EIS.
>
>"Ole Bob"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>V <vzo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Maybe this question has come up before but I have not heald anybody 
>mention it.
>
>Question:
>
>What happens if you boil CS ? and if you have lets say a quart of 25ppm CS 
>and you boil it down to half its volume would the ppm go up to 50ppm?
>
>V
>
>
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CS>Brown recluse bite

2006-05-18 Thread Barbara
Hi Everyone, 

Please, I need help for my friend's 10 year old kid that got bit by a brown 
recluse spider this last night.  His parents took him to ER but they did not do 
anything at ER saying that there is no antidote to this spider bite.  They 
wanted to give the kid steroid for swelling and told them to watch it and when 
the wound turns black, take him to the doctor.  

I'm just thinking that there must be something natural for it? 
Would anyone know if CS will help?  Or anything else?  How about black salve?  
Will that help?  

If anyone knows anything, please, share.  Thanks.

Barbara


CS>cs and stye infection-quick input needed pls!

2006-05-18 Thread Wendy

Hi there. I have a friend with a stye/eye infection. She usually can
self prescribe, but despite everything she's doing she is having some
trouble! 

I left her a small bottle of cs a year ago (made with silvergen 6) to
put in her cupboard (she hasn't' delved into cs yet). I suggested she
put that in it. I have read testimonials on line about a soaked cloth in
cs as well.

Any thoughts as to how many drops, how often, poultice vs drops etc.???

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Wendy

Her email to me:



I was supposed to go to the clinic today but woke up to a very painful
very
swollen eye. Went to the walk-in- clinic and got an antibiotic drops. Do
I want to use it, hell no.But I run out of ideas. It is a sty that is
not localized anymore but spread onto my whole upper lid. The boys took
a picture of me. I really look scary and funny at the same time.

 Last Thursday at the clinic the office was covered in a 0.5cm
thick dust of yellow pollen. I never been allergic to anything in my
life other than some people. :)

By the time I got home my left eye was very itchy and watery. I did not
do
anything. I figured I am getting another sty.

Friday morning my eyelid were glued together. Because I never had that
with
sty I looked up pink eye.
Took Pulsatilla and Apis. Nothing happened. All weekend long my eye were
itchy and just a very tiny bit swollen upper lid. Monday I took
Euprhasia,
and Staphysagria. Again I have a hard time repertorising my own
symptoms. So
I took remedies for Sty and took remedies for pink eye. Monday I also
had a
pimple like white thing on my upper lid which I get with sty.

Yesterday I went to the clinic again did not take any remedy. Today
whatever
I have is much worse. My eye is in pain, my eyelid is very itchy but
because
my eye hurt so much I can't even touch it. It burns and the eye lid is
very
swollen and red.

I took again Staphysagria, Belladonna for inflammation and redness and
Hepar
Sul for infection. Nothing is happening. I am not getting better. Taking
6000mg Vit C, Cod Liver oil, My multivitamin, Grapefruit seed extract,
acidophilus. I even thought of candida in the eye but never heard of it
and
never read something like this. We see many mother at the clinic with
candida infection and accidentally I could have touched my eye while
working
with a mother who had Candida.

The reason I think it is something at the clinic as I am worse the
following
day and gets better in a two days or so but doesn't go away completely.




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2006-05-18 Thread featherwon
I came across this scary articlewonder if EIS would be a solution?  FIBER 
DISEASE ALERT: COTTON: A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER!

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Joined: 07 May 2004
Posts: 31
Location: Yakima, WA, USA   
FIBER DISEASE ALERT: COTTON: A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER! PostMon Nov 22, 2004 
9:43 pmReply with quote  

Greetings:

First, Some background:

Many participants here are aware of the emerging and so called "fiber or 
Morgellon's" disease.

But, I believe that it is neither. Instead, it is something much more than the 
sum of it's parts.

In the pursuit of answers, I have been led inexorably by the logic of research 
and observation to a destination that I would never have dreamed existed when I 
began this journey.

I myself, for three years, have fought a slowly losing battle against this 
disease's ravages.


In that time I have intensely studied it's methods and preferences.

Some months back, an accidental observation lead me in a new and alarming 
direction. It is this direction that I now take the reader.

I realize that what I have to say below is fraught with implications of danger.
If, as I suspect, the full truth of the matter were to out, the result would be 
large political, social, and economic destabilization and flux.

Be that as it may. The origin of this plague remains a mystery. The vector for 
it is becoming less of one. But as in all such things, a door once opened often 
leads to a hall of many more yet to be keyed.

My conclusions are backed with numerous physical samples and observational 
proofs. These are observations that can easily be made as well by the reader.

Rest assured, I assume only that I have discovered one of this creature's 
vectors. Albeit a vector that, in and of itself, is one that is curiously well 
suited enought that it would suffice to infect nearly every living human being 
on the planet within a space of a decade.

Many other vectors likely exist.

It is my hope that someday what I have found will enable someone else to 
discover the "WHY" of this curse, I believe that in the meantime, we are now 
about to open the door on the "HOW" it was that the fiber disease came to 
infect us.

-CliffMickelson



FIBER DISEASE ALERT: COTTON: A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER!
__


There is an evil loose on the land. It is a creation of the darkest order and a 
monument to the foolishness of man.

It is here now, among us all.

As I type these words, and ... as you read them, this black evil shares and 
monitors the moment. It is uninvited, invisible and ubiquitous. Even now, it 
robs you and I. It steals the life force and fluids from your body giving in 
return nothing but despair, depression, chronic fatigue, and a broken immune 
defense system.

Welcome to the world of the Fiber Disease.

Some know it as Morgellons, but it is NOT the classic Morgellons disease of 
another time and place. (That affliction is one so mistakenly addressed at 
other sites.)

This is a new and more terrible curse.

Do not be so foolish as to think that you have escaped. You and the ones you 
love are even now at risk.

For...

In the indigo mind of it's creator, the knowledge that, though completely 
submerged, even a drowning man must eventually gasp for air, has been 
advantaged. This "stroke of black genius" has sealed yours and my fate, and has 
guaranteed that we will drown, submersed in a flood of unseen affliction.

It is the proverbial worm in the apple, but this time, it is even more 
insidious.

Say hello to the worm in the cotton.

Now comes the Devil:

Cotton is our companion from the cradle to the grave. It is ubiquitous in the 
lives of nearly every human on the planet. There is no escape from cotton.

To infect the world's cotton supply with a parasitic simbiote worm/pathogen 
nexus would provide a vector matrix of unparalleled efficiency and invisibility.

>From Q-tips to Kotex, T-shirts to Vitamin bottles, the flesh eating worm has 
>proliferated.

It is a complex organism that often works in conjunction with a variety of 
pathogens such as Lyme disease.

It is opportunistic and often uses the body's own defenses against itself.

It is a shape-shifter and mimics body fluids and skin. It can mask it's own 
signature in ways that confound the most astute laboratory technicians.

And so it is that this organism functions on a variety of levels as well as in 
a variety of mediums.

Yet, there comes a stage, when,(once securely entrenched in it's victim)it 
becomes blatant in it's own arrogance.

It appears that the organism uses the body's own mucus defense system to encase 
itself and thereby gain carte blanche.

That function serves a variety of additional purposes, including secondary 
external vectoring.

In more than one stage of it's metamorphosis, it is extant not only in th

Re: CS>CS question

2006-05-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
Silver Smith wrote:

> 1. Would using magnetized water or ozenated water to make EIS effect
> it one way or the other?
>
> Not sure.
>
>  2. Would Ozenating or magnetizing EIS after the fact effect it one
> way or the other? When I was making the Silver Lightning colloidal
> silver it was being magnetized immediately after manufacture.  We had
> lots of people who had a lot of success with it, but have no idea if
> the magnetizing really improved it or not, all I can say for sure it
> that it sure did not hurt it.  Ozonating CS right before you drink it
> can improve it's killing ability, but of course if you do it a long
> time before drinking it, the ozone will be long gone.
>
> Marshall
>
>   On 5/17/06, Robert Berger  wrote:
>
>  Do not boil the EIS. "Ole Bob"
>
>  V  wrote:
>
>   Maybe this question has come up before but I have
>   not heald anybody mention it.
>
>   Question:
>
>   What happens if you boil CS ? and if you have lets
>   say a quart of 25ppm CS and you boil it down to
>   half its volume would the ppm go up to 50ppm?
>
>   V
>
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Re: CS>CS question

2006-05-18 Thread Ode Coyote

At 05:23 PM 5/17/2006 -0500, you wrote:

1. Would using magnetized water or ozenated water to make EIS effect it 
one way or the other?


**  I find that using heavily ozonated water oxidizes the silver ions.
 If the jug is left uncapped for several days, it no longer does.
 Virtually all distilled water in the USA is ozonated,  but it doesn't 
stay for long.


2. Would Ozenating or magnetizing EIS after the fact effect it one way or 
the other?


**  I've never seen a magnet affect CS one way or another at any 
timeand I've used some real finger snippers trying. [The kind that send 
shrapnel flying if they clack together too hard and must be slid off iron 
surfaces]
I know of one person that claims that ferrite rings affect his CS but, 
no "proof".


Ode






On 5/17/06, Robert Berger 
<bober...@swbell.net> wrote:

Do not boil the EIS.

"Ole Bob"













V <vzo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Maybe this question has come up before but I have not heald anybody 
mention it.


Question:

What happens if you boil CS ? and if you have lets say a quart of 25ppm CS 
and you boil it down to half its volume would the ppm go up to 50ppm?


V


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Re: CS>CS question

2006-05-18 Thread Ode Coyote
  Yes it would, but the amount of silver *in solution* would probably 
change when cooled...and still read in the 20s or 30s on a meter.
It might agglomerate into larger particles and drop out...might go yellow 
or green?

 Try it and find out.

I never felt a need.

Ode

At 11:10 PM 5/16/2006 -0700, you wrote:

Maybe this question has come up before but I have not heald anybody 
mention it.


Question:

What happens if you boil CS ? and if you have lets say a quart of 25ppm CS 
and you boil it down to half its volume would the ppm go up to 50ppm?


V


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