Re: CS>CS - INFO and intro newbie

[Sam L.]

Hi Joanne and welcome to the group.
This is some pretty good reading.

The real facts on colloidal silverhttp://silver-lightning.com/theory.html
Sam L.


On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:17 AM, ~ Joanne ~  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I am very new to the list and just started making my own CS. I live in
> Canada and laws here are a lot more strict regarding CScan still buy
> it
> in stores we just can't make any health claims and some sites have been
> shut
> down.
>
> Does anyone have any info on CS that they can share with me please and
> thank
> you.
>
> Joanne
>
>
>


-- 
A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to
take
everything you have. Google Ron Paul

Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Twoplydoubleroll]

its a good idea to do an antibiotic before an extraction so the infection  
doesn't get into the bloodstream.  Flossing is a must.  Our diets have  have 
evolved and we no longer eat the kind of food (roots & bark ) that will  
naturally wear our teeth down and allow them to self cleanse.   I\



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Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

[Dianne France]

Our son has also been dealing with an abscess tooth and finally went to the 
dentist and they were very concerned due to the extent of the infection that 
showed on x-rays.  They put him on antibiotics and gave him some pain 
medication and hopefully it will start killing the infection quickly.  

He is also in the middle of moving and when he went to turn his keys into his 
old apartment the apartment manager told him about a man that lived in the 
complex that they found dead.  He also had an abscessed tooth and the infection 
went into his brain and evidently killed him.  He died alone in his apartment.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:28 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth


I personally believe flossing just makes things a lot worse, as I do 
having teeth 'cleaned' mechanically.  It makes the gum move away from the teeth 
so allowing food to become trapped.  This is not a normal thing to do in 
nature, IMO.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Tad Winiecki
Date: 24/04/2008 23:08:51
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>daughters infected wisdom tooth

On Apr 24, 2008, at 12:25 PM, 
gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:

> ail,
>   The ironic thing is that this daughter was the most vigilant
> with flossing and brushing. She says because it was impacted a
> depression formed where food could get trapped even though she was
> careful. The dentist is recommending all four out with no apparant
> problems in the other teeth and a $4,000 cost. Does anyone know of an
> electro-dermal testing to evaluate any meridan energy interference in
> tooth meridians?
   
  
   

Re: CS>godzilla now LED lights

[mborgert]

Rowena,
You were the one who emailed and said that all of your blood passes through the belly button.  
I have an enhancer and I tried this I could litterly feel the blood moving to different parts of the body, mainly the face.
Question?  What other acupuncture points are just as valuable???
I have googled just about everything I could think of to get any information but not understanding what all of the words are I am having a hard time.
 
Help.  This is good to know.
Mary
-- Original message from "Rowena" : -- 




That is probably also a very effective tool, and lighter to post!  I have read that the light is effective right through to bone, and I think it penetrates bone, though it depends what kind you buy; some are fairly shallow penetrating just for skin, others go in for up to eight inches..  
 
Part of the problem with substances is getting them to the infected site when it is so deep. They can kill germs where they happen to touch them, and likely lessen the overall body load.  
 
But electricity and the light can penetrate immediately and get right deep down to the source.
 
My understanding is that you simply should not look at the lights.  If you need to find out if they are working, you can look on a closed circuit television.  I shine it on my hand, though, and that is enough to show how strong the light is, whether the batteries have run out, whatever.  Part of my reading was to say that there was temporary damage from looking briefly at the light, but that it improved without permanent damage.  However, I don't know about looking at it longer.  I would have thought it rather irresponsible to show that being done without eye protection.  But what do I know, except what I read on the internet?
 
On the other hand, 
 
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=2102232338
 
 says:  So basically, the use of light-emitting diodes eliminated the draw back of lasers, and light could be applied into such sensitive areas as the eyes and around the face. 
 
And 
Initially, single frequency light penetrated approximately an inch and a half, but today, larger un
its can penetrate up to eight inches. It will go through the skull. We use it on strokes, concussions and internal problems in the brain. Excellent studies have been done using light for pain relief, degenerative osteoarthritis, carpal tunnel tendonitis, skin ailments, acne, psoriasis, healing of the sinus cells, throat and ear problems, whiplash and lower back problems. 
 
PENETRATING THROUGH THE BLOOD STREAM You can even get light into the blood stream. One of the best ways is through your belly button, because the aorta artery is behind the belly button. So if you insert the light there for 20 minutes, every drop of blood in the body will pass in front of the light, increasing the activity of your white cells, red cells, B-cells and T-cells, so you can boost your whole immune system. 
 
LED technology is used by vets on animals, so it  must work.
 

What is Light Emitting Diode Therapy?
Light Emitting Diode Therapy, commonly known as LEDT, is a form of phototherapy which involves the application of low power monochromatic and non-coherent light to injuries and lesions to stimulate healing.
LEDT is used to increase the speed, quality and tensile strength of tissue repair, resolve inflammation, and give pain relief. The technical term often used to describe this form of therapy is photobiomodulation.
LEDT is distinct from LLLT, in that LEDs do not produce coherent light waves. However, many practitioners believe that the effects of LEDT are similar, and some research has indicated this to be the case.
LEDs have a number of significant benefits over lasers in some respects. LEDs are a good deal cheaper than laser diodes, thus making them ideal for use in cluster probes, and are inherently more robust so they can withstand rougher treatment. This is why NASA has chosen to use LEDT.
http//www.msfc.nasa.gov/news 
 
R
 
 
There is one on another internet site that is a dental tool to shine led healing light on gums.  It would be hard to do that with the array.   It mentions treating infection.  It also has zappers, colloidal silver generators, and more but I haven't ordered anything from them so I don't know anything about them-http://www.elixa.com/light/arrays.htmThis site shows a woman using infrared and red leds on her face without eye protection.  Does anyone know which leds are not good for the eyes? 

RE: CS>Excerpt from Ole Bob's CS Book

[Dan Nave]

Wayne,

This is already on your site under
http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/BasicInformation/

History of Colloidal Silver - Ole Bob.doc

(I made minor edits at the bottom of the one I just posted, for
clarity.)

I dug it up to send to a friend and thought the list might like to read
it as well.

I have the whole book, but it is not digitized in any fashion except for
some excerpts.
Actually, I think someone should look into getting permission to print
the whole thing, as Bob put a lot of work into it and it is no longer
available.  I think he would like his work to still be accessible...

Dan


> -Original Message-
> From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:01 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Excerpt from Ole Bob's CS Book
> 
> Morning Dan,
> 
>  >> at 07:59 AM 4/28/2008, you wrote:
> 
> >  The History of Colloidal Silver
> 
> Very interesting.
> 
>  Do you have the complete book ?  What format ?
> 
>  Could we put this in the Silver File Section ?
> 
>  Wayne
> 
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Re: CS>Excerpt from Ole Bob's CS Book

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Dan,

>> at 07:59 AM 4/28/2008, you wrote:


 The History of Colloidal Silver


   Very interesting.

Do you have the complete book ?  What format ?

Could we put this in the Silver File Section ?

Wayne

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CS>High ppm CS as per the Bogus Website

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Ode,

>> At 05:07 AM 4/28/2008, you wrote:

According to "whois"
 Outrageous Canadian based site selling a potentially dangerous product 
out of Minnisota:

http://www.invive.com/index_3.htm
Legal loophole?


  I read much of the site.   While it all sounds factual,   I doubt some 
of it, if not most.


  What about the number of ions in 1 ppm of the blood ?  I am not saying 
there is

a 1 ion, 1 bacteria ratio.

 If one had a volume of blood,  how would he arrive at the ppm that was CS ?

 I would think that 99.999 percent of the CS used in the world today is 
much lower than the high ppm stuff they are trying to sell.


My two bit CS, made with a two bit generator has accomplished virtually 
every mission I gave it.

The only instrument I use is a current meter, and a watch of course.

I have EC meters, pH Meters, and EC analog sensors but never used them for 
making CS.

My generator alone tells me when to reject water.

Wayne

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Re: CS>Question on human blood parasites

[Day Sutton]

Do not know what blood parasites you have, but Jim Humble cured thousands of
Africans of Malaria with his MMS (miracle mineral suppliment)  Might be
worth looking into.  Just Google Jim Humble, you will find all you need..

This site contains his free ebook, book II has a small charge..

http://www.scribd.com/doc/932837/Sodium-Chlorite-Rid-Body-of-HIV-Hep-Malaria-in-3-days
-

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Judy K 
wrote:

> Hello -- I'm just returning to this list after quite a while away. So glad
> you're still going strong!
> I have been making CS for about 7 years, and recently bought a
> SilverPuppy.
> What a fine, simple design! Love it!
> My question is, can you direct me to good information on human blood
> parasites and any effect CS may have on them? I had heard somewhere that
> it
> may kill the one-cell stage of the critters.
> Thanks,
> Judy Down Maine
>
>
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Re: CS>Silveware metals

[Marshall Dudley]

treblcl...@aol.com wrote:

.

Does anyone know if this silverware is safe to use?  If not, what
would be recommended metals and ratios look for?
-- 18/10 stainless steel pattern (18/10 represents the ratio of
chromium and nickel used in the stainless steel).






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Silverware should be safe to eat with.  It is 93% silver, and the rest 
is primarily copper, which is a required nutrient for the body.  Very 
little of either make it into your food.


Marshall


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RE: CS> Bill, Re-read the post. You miss the point.

[Dan Nave]

Bill,
 
The point is: 
 
"What is the article about?  
 
Do you expect all of *us* to go to the internet site without knowing the
subject of the article?  Most people don't want to waste their time.
Sure, it may take *you* two minutes to do this, but you expect
*everyone* else to waste their time, interested or not, instead of
you...
 
When you supply a link, just supply a very short description of what we
will expect to find at that link...
 
Dan




From: Bill Amos [mailto:billa...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:20 PM
To: Silver List
Subject: CS>" Idiot"


 
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave   
To: Bill Amos   
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Recommended article, please read

Bill,
 
From your post I infer that you are an idiot.
 
Or maybe you just didn't understand my post...
 
Dan




From: Bill Amos [mailto:billa...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:48 PM
To: Dan Nave
Subject: Re: CS>Recommended article, please read


Sorry you didn't understand the article !
 
Bill

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave
  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Recommended article, please read

Please include a short description of the
article you are recommending.  Simply including the title with this one
would have been sufficient.  
 
Dan




From: Bill Amos
[mailto:billa...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:18 PM
To: Silver List
Subject: CS>Recommended article, please
read


 
Check out this great
article:<<

CS>Excerpt from Ole Bob's CS Book

[Dan Nave]

 The History of Colloidal Silver

Silver has been used throughout history by the aristoc-racy for plates
and drinking vessels, and its use has been a source of protection from
the ravages that affect the mass of humanity. Our pioneers would add a
silver dollar to the milk buckets to prolong the useful life. If you so
choose you can add a tablespoon of your silver product to a gallon of
milk and it will not spoil for weeks.

Prior to the discovery of penicillin there were over ninety US letters
patents of silver compounds for medicinal purposes. It was during 1917
that Dr. Henry Crooke con-ducted 2,000 tests proving that silver
solutions would kill almost all pathogens. Since ionic silver solutions
could not be patented, the Food and Drug Administration was moved by the
pharmaceutical companies not to approve its use by the Amer-ican Medical
Association.

For those who want an in-depth look at the history of the use of silver
for human well being I suggest that you visit the Google.com web site
and enter "colloidal silver."
Another worthwhile web site is at www.silverinstitute.org in Washing-ton
D. C. You will enjoy the www.silverlon.com web site as their product has
been approved by the FDA and the AMA.

If the web site is selling a product be careful what you believe about
their product, as everyone thinks theirs is the best.

Circa 1953 there was an article in the Reader's Digest on the role that
silver played in the building of the Burma road during world War II.
Shortly after construction began every-thing stopped due to dysentery
and diarrhea from the water supply. An English doctor gathered up a
number of D batteries and silver coins, which he took to India.

The coins were converted into wires about a meter long and one was
soldered on each end of the D battery. The silver wires were placed in
the Lister bags water supply with the batteries on the outside. In just
a few days the medical problem disappeared and the road was completed.

At that time I was living in La Ceiba, Honduras, and our water supply
was from unfiltered, unprocessed mountain runoff water, and I was
curious about the silver process. At my request the director of the
research laboratory had his personnel prepare twelve petri dishes for
bacterial culture growth.

A water sample was divided into three parts. One part was used to make a
1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution sample for the untreated water, a second
set was made for water that was stirred with a silver wire for two
minutes, and the third set was made using water that had been stirred
with two silver wires that were soldered to the ends of a D battery.

What follows are my personal experiences while inves-tigating the making
of a silver product to be used for human consumption.

The twelve samples were incubated for forty-eight hours so that any
bacteria present would grow. At the end of the incubation period the
samples were viewed with results as listed on the table.

Untreated Water:
1/1 Solid cover of bacterial growth.
1/10 had successfully reduced growth.
1/100 had successfully reduced growth.
1/1000 had five colonies of bacteria.

Stirred Water:
1/1 had a few colonies.
1/10 had less than sample 1.
1/100 were free of bacterial growth.
1/1000 were free of bacterial growth.

Electrolyzed Water:
All four of the culture dishes were bacterially free.


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Re: CS>CS - INFO and intro newbie

[Ode Coyote]

According to "whois"
 Outrageous Canadian based site selling a potentially dangerous product 
out of Minnisota:

http://www.invive.com/index_3.htm

Legal loophole?

ode



At 11:17 AM 4/27/2008 -0600, you wrote:


Hi there,

I am very new to the list and just started making my own CS. I live in
Canada and laws here are a lot more strict regarding CScan still buy it
in stores we just can't make any health claims and some sites have been shut
down.

Does anyone have any info on CS that they can share with me please and thank
you.

Joanne




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CS>Question on human blood parasites

[Judy K]

Hello -- I'm just returning to this list after quite a while away. So glad
you're still going strong!
I have been making CS for about 7 years, and recently bought a SilverPuppy.
What a fine, simple design! Love it!
My question is, can you direct me to good information on human blood
parasites and any effect CS may have on them? I had heard somewhere that it
may kill the one-cell stage of the critters.
Thanks,
Judy Down Maine



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Re: CS>Glutathione for Austism

[Paula Perry]

There is a book out about treating Autism with amino acids. Amino acids are 
also being used to treat bipolar and drug addictions. Very promising results 
are being reported.
Paula
  - Original Message - 
  From: ch...@tx.rr.com 
  To: Silver List 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:29 AM
  Subject: CS>Glutathione for Austism


  I was watching Good Morning America this morning and there was a story on 
about a boy with autism who got experimental treatment of injection of 
Glutathione and had much improvement.  Here are portions of the article - left 
out some parts because the sister helped raise money for the study.  

  Cindy


  v With an experimental autism treatment

  v parents were impressed with changes they saw after Evan was injected 
with an amino acid and antioxidant called Glutathione

  v His day-to-day life was filled with struggles. His mother heard it 
might help minimize his temper tantrums.

  v family tried several things to help when they finally stumbled upon one 
that seemed to have drastic and dramatic results. 

  v For the first time in his life, he was able to dress himself. 

  v "It has made a life-changing difference. Is Evan cured? No. Is he 
better? Yes," said his mother 

  v But doctors are skeptical of Evan's changes because no scientific 
evidence is available to support the claims made by Glutathione proponents. 
Yet, after seeing Evan's progress, doctors at Kosair Children's Hospital in 
Louisville, Ky., agreed to try the treatment on other patients. 

  v I have to tell you, I was very skeptical," said Dr. Steven Wright, of 
Kosair Children's Hospital. 

  v The four patients the hospital tested saw improvements too, but four 
patients are not a scientific study. 

  v "There really is very little that can be generalized from a story about 
three or four individuals besides the interest in pursuing some real research 
on the topic," said Dr. Peter Gerhardt, of the Organization for Autism 
Research. 

  v A larger study would cost at least $200,000 

  v "Physicians at Kosair plan to begin the Glutathione studies on 50 patients 
in January," said Leslie Buddeke, of Kosair Children's Hospital Foundation. 

Re: [Fwd: Re: CS>Another use for silver]

[Acmeair]

>From: Acmeair 
>Date: 2008/04/27 Sun AM 03:35:56 CDT
>Subject: [Fwd: Re: CS>Another use for silver]

>
>>From: Ode Coyote 
>>Date: 2008/04/27 Sun AM 03:35:56 CDT
>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>Subject: Re: CS>Another use for silver
oil!



>
>>
>>
>>   Why not smear the electrode on your skin?
>>
>>ode
>>
>>At 06:12 PM 4/26/2008 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks.  I will try that.  I will have to smear the cloth on my skin, but 
>>>I'll do it.  thanks.  Faith g.
>>>
>>>
>>>- Original Message - From: "trem" 
>>>To: 
>>>Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 5:40 PM
>>>Subject: Re: CS>Another use for silver
>>>
>>>
Yes, exactly.

Trem,


- Original Message - From: "faith gagne" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Another use for silver


>Thank you.  All I get is a little black stuff, a smear on the wiping 
>cloth. Is this what you mean?  Thanks.  Faith G.
>
>
>- Original Message - From: "trem" 
>To: 
>Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:33 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Another use for silver
>
>
>>Faith,
>>He wasn't speaking about CS.  He used the elemental silver one gets 
>>when wiping off the cathode.
>>
>>I hope this helps you
>>
>>Trem
>>
>>- Original Message - From: "faith gagne" 
>>To: 
>>Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:37 PM
>>Subject: Re: CS>Another use for silver
>>
>>
>>>CS does not work for my eczema.  Faith G.
>>>
>>>
>>>- Original Message - From: "trem" 
>>>To: 
>>>Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:36 PM
>>>Subject: CS>Another use for silver
>>>
>>>
Here's part of an email we received from a customer.  Another 
testimonial for silver.

"Shirley,
I sure wish that I could patent what I have to tell you.  I had a
spot of contact eczema about the size of silver dollar on my hand, 
nothing
would get rid of it.  When I cleaned my CS machine I Scraped the 
residue off
the diodes  (electrodes)  and applied it to the sore.  One day and it 
healed up, couldn't
believe it.

Carrie's boy had a spot on his head from birth.  It was diagnosed
as eczema, I took some down and put it on.  For the first time since 
birth it
went away, only took two days and it looked like new skin.  Carrie 
was really taken back,
she has been putting on prescription med ever since birth, it has 
been six months.
Now you know a new cure for anything that is topical.Love ya Marty"



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