Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Dee]

Well I use the little melanine pads to clean dishes with because it 
means I don't have to use washing up liquid which is highly toxic.  I 
cannot see a problem, because I rinse it under the tap after using 
anyway, and then dry.  dee


Marshall Dudley wrote:
  Using scrubbing pads made of melamine properly should not be a 
problem, but I would not  put it in my mouth since very small amounts 
of both formaldehyde and melamine monomer could leach out.






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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Faith Gagne]

When I wash a few dishes by hand here and there I use liquid dish soap, and 
because it is concentrated I dilute it a lot with water.   I always rinse 
well.  Otherwise I use a dishwasher about once a week because I 'pack'  it 
with dishes before I turn it on.  Saves on water.



- Original Message - 
From: Dee d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert!


Well I use the little melanine pads to clean dishes with because it means 
I don't have to use washing up liquid which is highly toxic.  I cannot see 
a problem, because I rinse it under the tap after using anyway, and then 
dry.  dee


Marshall Dudley wrote:
  Using scrubbing pads made of melamine properly should not be a problem, 
but I would not  put it in my mouth since very small amounts of both 
formaldehyde and melamine monomer could leach out.






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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Dee]

that should have read 'melamine'.  dee

Dee wrote:
Well I use the little melanine pads to clean dishes with because it 
means I don't have to use washing up liquid which is highly toxic.  I 
cannot see a problem, because I rinse it under the tap after using 
anyway, and then dry.  dee






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CSTainted Food Alert Update

[kmilkowski]

Brasscheck TV: Food safety alert
  

If you missed yesterday's bulletin about
Potential melamine contamination in the
US food supply, please go here:
 
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/460.html
 
If you read yesterday's bulletin, I have
Assembled a number of sources that verify
Everything in that story here:
 
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/462.html
 
Until the FDA comes clean, I recommend
That you advoid:
 
1. ALL manufactured food products made
In China regardless of what the listed
Ingredients state.
 
2. The products of ANY food manufacturer
Regardless of where they are based, in
The US or elsewhere, that will not clearly
State that they do not use powdered milk,
Powdered eggs, or other bulk food ingredients
Manufactured in China.
 
In its infinite wisdom, the Bush
Administration and the FDA has
Made the US the ONLY country on earth
That has not ordered these potentially
Tainted products removed from
Its shelves.
 
Milk products manufactured in China
And tainted with melamine, an industrial
Chemical, killed and injured thousands
Of children this year.
 
If you live in the US, you need to know
That your government is not protecting you
From these products.
 
The original story posted yesterday is here:
 
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/460.html
 
My additional research is posted here:
 
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/462.html
 
- Brasscheck
 
P.S. Please pass this along.
 
Obviously, the FDA and US news media is happy
To let you eat this stuff and couldn't care
Less what happens to you.
 
A parting gift to America from the Bush family
I guess.
 
 
 
 
- Brasscheck
 
P.S. Please share Brasscheck TV e-mails and
Videos with friends and colleagues.
 
That's how we grow. Thanks. 
 


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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[mborgert]

Dee,

This is exactly what I was saying NO ONE WISHES TO GIVE UP THE LITTLE WHITE POISON PADS.

It is your health, you can always find dish soap that is non toxic.


Mary
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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[indi]

There are quite a few alternatives to cleaning with poison:
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8keywords=non%20toxic%20dish%20soapindex=blendedlink%5Fcode=qs

indi

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:41:17 +
Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 Well I use the little melanine pads to clean dishes with because it 
 means I don't have to use washing up liquid which is highly toxic.  I 
 cannot see a problem, because I rinse it under the tap after using 
 anyway, and then dry.  dee
 
 Marshall Dudley wrote:
Using scrubbing pads made of melamine properly should not be a 
  problem, but I would not  put it in my mouth since very small
  amounts of both formaldehyde and melamine monomer could leach out.
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Marshall Dudley]

indi wrote:

Thanks Marshall, that's good information to have. Unfortunately for me,
a lot of my indoor environment (counters, shelves, and cupboards in my 
kitchen and bathroom) is covered with formica. It's old formica, made
in 1973. Do you think it still releases toxins? 
No I don't.  I would not worry about even new Formica, any outgassing is 
going to be trivial, and short lived.  I would wash any melamine dishes 
in a dishwasher first though before using, to eliminate any monomers 
which might outgas into your food.


Marshall

Maybe my
energy-inefficient habit of keeping windows open even when it's cold
outside and the heat is on has been wiser than I realized...

indi

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:20:25 -0400
Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

  

Let me say that first of all, that the guy in the video is wrong
about them using scrap melamine polymers in the China milk.  Melamine
polymer is a very stable plastic which not only would pass through
one's digestive system unchanged and unabsorbed, but also would not
yield any increase in detected nitrogen when testing for protein
which was the purpose of adding the melamine. In addition, it would
form a kind of grit, which would be very easy to detect, it is
insoluble, and all you have to do is mix the milk powder with water,
and if it is there, it will be on the bottom and easily detected.

What they were adding is melamine MONOMER. This is the liquid which 
polymerizes when heated to form melamine plastic after crosslinking

with formaldehyde.  The stuff is very dangerous from a health
standpoint, just as other monomers are, such as styrene, methyl
methacrylate, and polyester resin (Bondo and Clear Cast for
example).  Just breathing any of these monomers can make you sick,
yet the plastics themselves are ALL FDA approved for use with foods.
Heck, most of us have counter tops made of melamine ( Formica and
Micarta are examples), and most plastic dishes are made from it as
well. When the monomer is ingested, the kidneys will remove it, and
it is toxic. But also when combined with urea and in the environment
of the urine, it tends to polymerized, forming plastic inside the
kidneys and kidney and bladder stones.  Also it can produce cyanuric
acid crystals which can lead to kidney failure. The stones are not
only very serious, but unlike most toxins that will eventually be
flushed out, will likely remain there for the rest of the entity's
life.

However, that being said, there CAN be some leaching of
unpolymerized melamine monomer and formaldehyde used to crosslink in
melamine plastics. There is an article on this at 
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tandf/tfac/2006/0023/0009/art00010 
.  Thus I would highly recommend washing any melamine dishes in a 
dishwasher, and using the heated drying cycle before using them.

Using scrubbing pads made of melamine properly should not be a
problem, but I would not  put it in my mouth since very small amounts
of both formaldehyde and melamine monomer could leach out.

Also see 
http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/melamine-and-kidney-failure.html 
for confirmation of what I am saying.
Melamine monomer, as opposed to the plastic used to make kitchen 
utensils and table coverings, itself also has irritant properties. It 
has been added to various food products to illicitly and fraudulently 
boost the measured protein content without the expense of actually 
improving the food’s nutritional value.


Marshall



mborg...@att.net wrote:


Another alert
All of my clients have and use with bare hands that little white
pad known as mr clean or any number of brands, it is made from
malamine. 
I have seen children use it and than put their hands in their

mouths, I try and warn anyone but everyone loves the poison.
 
I cannot get anyone yet to throw it away.  My clients wonder why

their children are sick.
 
This poison and many others are just a few feet away, under every 
sink,in every utility room in America.
 
Mary


-- Original message from kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com:
--



 From: Brasscheck TV
 Date: 10/29/2008 8:36:14 AM
 To: Linda
 Subject: Brasscheck TV: NEWS BULLETIN


 I don't often send bulletins, but this is
 potentially very serious.

 You have probably heard of the deliberate
 adulteration of infant formula with melamine
 in China.

 It killed and injured thousands of children
 there.

 What you don't know - because the FDA and others
 don't want you to know - is that as much as
 20 million TONS of Chinese manufactured milk powder
 and products containing milk powder were imported into
 the US from China this year.

 Now please read the next part very carefully:

 The US...is the ONLY country...including China...
 that has NOT pulled food products containing
 milk powder manufactured in China off its
 shelves.

 Please re-reread the 

CSWhat a World Wide Problem ?

[Wayne Fugitt]

This is exactly what I was saying NO ONE WISHES TO GIVE UP THE 
LITTLE WHITE POISON PADS.

   I have never seen one.  I use no pads.

   Since I do not cook, I have few dishes that get dirty.


It is your health, you can always find dish soap that is non toxic.


  I have found, if I rinse and rub with nothing but very hot water,

clean is clean enough for me.

  I do not worry about bacteria, as I like a few just to test and
keep the immune system on alert and working.

 I keep a spray bottle of CS handy, so water and CS seems as good as 
soap to me.


  I spray all fruit and vegetables with CS and they do very well.

   Finally, I loved cleaning the chow hall so well in the military, 
I asked for Full Time KP.


   They would not give it to me, stating it was used to punish other 
people.   How funny !No punishment for me.


   I could keep it spotless, including all pots, pans, and scrubbing 
the floor, then sit and play chess half the time.


  Some know how to work, and others think they do.

  Wayne

  I will fight for your right to your wrong opinion

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Re: CSWhat a World Wide Problem ?

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Its not bacteria that worries me Wayne, it's pesticides etc., I would just
wash with water too, but sometimes things like tea don't come off, so I find
the little melamine pads great, and no-one has got sick in my house!  I do
the work tops, which are wooden with CS though. dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 30/10/2008 15:33:35
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWhat a World Wide Problem ?
 

This is exactly what I was saying NO ONE WISHES TO GIVE UP THE
LITTLE WHITE POISON PADS.
I have never seen one.  I use no pads.
 
Since I do not cook, I have few dishes that get dirty.

It is your health, you can always find dish soap that is non toxic.
 
   I have found, if I rinse and rub with nothing but very hot water,
 
clean is clean enough for me.
 
   I do not worry about bacteria, as I like a few just to test and
keep the immune system on alert and working.
 
  

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

I don't find any problems with the little pads and I use non toxic things
for everything else.  That is, I use soap-nuts to wash clothes with (no
softener) and  Feem for cleaning surfaces such as floors which are dirty -
otherwise just micro-fibre cloths and water.  The little pads clean all the
bathroom things just fine, without using other more toxic substances.  dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: indi
Date: 30/10/2008 14:38:23
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert!
 
There are quite a few alternatives to cleaning with poison:
http://www.amazon
com/s?ie=UTF8keywords=non%20toxic%20dish%20soapindex=blendedlink%5Fcode=qs

 
indi
 

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

I can't see how they are poison Mary, nothing comes off of them.  Even if a
minute amount did, as I say, I rinse the dishes off and dry them.  No-one is
sick in my house.  dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: mborg...@att.net
Date: 30/10/2008 14:17:20
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert!
 
Dee,
 
This is exactly what I was saying NO ONE WISHES TO GIVE UP THE LITTLE WHITE
POISON PADS.
 
It is your health, you can always find dish soap that is non toxic.
 
 
Mary

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Clayton Family]

On Oct 30, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


indi wrote:
Thanks Marshall, that's good information to have. Unfortunately for 
me,
a lot of my indoor environment (counters, shelves, and cupboards in 
my kitchen and bathroom) is covered with formica. It's old formica, 
made

in 1973. Do you think it still releases toxins?
No I don't.  I would not worry about even new Formica, any outgassing 
is going to be trivial, and short lived.  I would wash any melamine 
dishes in a dishwasher first though before using, to eliminate any 
monomers which might outgas into your food.


Marshall

Maybe my
energy-inefficient habit of keeping windows open even when it's cold
outside and the heat is on has been wiser than I realized...

indi





I would worry more about the new particle board under the formica, as 
it outgasses formaldehyde..


Kathryn


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Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[indi]

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:51:04 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

 
 
 I would worry more about the new particle board under the formica, as 
 it outgasses formaldehyde..
 

No particle board under my formica, it's honeycomb aluminum core
covered on both sides with formica. 

indi


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Re: CSWhat a World Wide Problem ? cleaning

[Rowena]

Have you tried cleaning tough stuff with just washing soda?  It is the most 
amazing stuff.  I got it to do Hulda Clark's recommended stuff and use it for 
pans, sinks, etc. You can use it with a cloth, brush or nylon pad. I mainly use 
a brush.  And hot water.  And do a Wayne, cleaning without anything where I 
can. Any more like you at home, Wayne?  Once a week duties would do quite 
nicely; I would save all the dishes and pots willingly.  Borax of course is the 
other useful stuff in cleaning.  
Rowena

Re: CSTainted Food Alert! Dishwashing

[Rowena]

Hulda Clark says you can't rinse it off, there is always a residue.  She 
recommends borax and washing soda.  Borax in the dishwasher, with vinegar as a 
rinse aid.
R


  When I wash a few dishes by hand here and there I use liquid dish soap, and 
  because it is concentrated I dilute it a lot with water.   I always rinse 
  well.  Otherwise I use a dishwasher about once a week because I 'pack'  it 
  with dishes before I turn it on.  Saves on water.

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Clayton Family]

On Oct 30, 2008, at 1:03 PM, indi wrote:


On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:51:04 -0500
Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:




I would worry more about the new particle board under the formica, as
it outgasses formaldehyde..



No particle board under my formica, it's honeycomb aluminum core
covered on both sides with formica.

indi




Wow, that is really cool. I did not even know such a critter existed.

Kathryn


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Re: CSWhat a World Wide Problem ? cleaning

[Clayton Family]

So does washing soda cut grease easily?

On Oct 30, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Rowena wrote:

Have you tried cleaning tough stuff with just washing soda?  It is the 
most amazing stuff.  I got it to do Hulda Clark's recommended stuff 
and use it for pans, sinks, etc. You can use it with a cloth, brush or 
nylon pad. I mainly use a brush.  And hot water.  And do a Wayne, 
cleaning without anything where I can. Any more like you at home, 
Wayne?  Once a week duties would do quite nicely; I would save all the 
dishes and pots willingly.  Borax of course is the other useful stuff 
in cleaning. 

Rowena



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Re: CSWhat a World Wide Problem ? cleaning

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

I would have thought washing soda was quite toxic.  I use it to soften the
water in the washing machine as we have hard water. dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Clayton Family
Date: 30/10/2008 18:39:03
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWhat a World Wide Problem ? cleaning
 
So does washing soda cut grease easily?
 
On Oct 30, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Rowena wrote:
 

FW: CSpositive silver ions and negatively charged bacteria

[Norton, Steve]

 
 
Beth,

I am probably one of the least qualified to answer your question
regarding the effectiveness of silver particles but I will try and the
more knowledgeable can correct me where I am wrong. 

 

Starting with the negative charge on silver particles in solution.
Silver particles do not have an innate charge but when in a solution
with ionic silver they take on a negative charge. This is because the
overall charge within a solution must be close to zero and therefore a
negative charge must exist within the silver solution that counter
balances the combined positive charge of the silver ions. 

In the case of colloidal silver, silver ions are created during the
electrolysis that makes colloidal silver. The creation of silver ions
would tend to make the net charge of the solution positive. Ionization
breaks the water molecule into hydrogen H+ and hydroxyl ions OH-, which
are negatively charged. The negative charge of the hydroxyl ions
counters the positive charge of the silver ions and maintains a solution
of whose net charge is zero. Thus the negative hydroxyl ions are created
at the same time that the positive silver ions and silver particles are
created. The hydroxyl ions are non-metallic ions that then bond to the
atoms of the silver particles thus imparting their negative charge to
the particles. The H+ migrates to the cathode, where it is reduced to
hydrogen gas, H 2, which is liberated.

While it is known that silver particles within a colloidal silver
solution have a negative charge, I do not know that the silver-hydroxyl
ion bonding is maintained when the silver is ingested into the body.
However, in my opinion the charge of the silver particle is not relevant
to the effectiveness of the silver particle in the body. This gets us
into an area of some dispute: whether silver particles themselves are
biologically active. It may be that they are but from what I have read
it appears to me that it is primarily silver ions that are biologically
active. 

My opinions relative to silver particles and silver ions:

 

Silver particles::

 

*   Even nano sized silver particles contain many silver atoms. For
example, a silver particle one nanometer in diameter would consist of 31
silver atoms, and a 5 nm diameter particle would be about 3900 atoms
while a 20 nm diameter particle would contain about 250,000 silver
atoms. The particle size typically observed in colloidal silver is
typically in the range of 5 to 200 nanometers. 
*   Silver particles release silver ions in the body and it is those
silver ions that are primarily responsible for the biological activity
of the silver. It is unknown just how many silver ions will be released
by the silver particles since many factors such as blood pH, blood
chemical composition, temperature, etc. will affect silver ion
generation. Another important factor is the effective surface area of
the silver particles since it is from the surface of the silver particle
that ions are released. The smaller the particle sizes within a
colloidal solution the greater the surface area to mass ratio. 
*   The limiting factor on effectiveness for silver particles is how
many silver ions will be created in vivo.

 

Now a quick look at silver ions:

 

*   A silver ion is a silver atom minus one electron. 
*   A silver ion is very active and will quickly bind to pathogens
or other atoms/molecules it can. This is its greatest strength. And its
greatest weakness as an ionic solution. 
*   Detractors of ionic silver claim that all the silver ions bind
with the HCl in stomach acid to form silver chloride, which is not a
bioavailable form of silver. This is not totally correct. Some silver
ions do form silver chloride but many silver ions do not: 

*   Many silver ions enter the body through the mucous
membranes of the mouth. Silver ions can also pass through the mucous
membranes of the nose. When taken this way, the silver bypasses the
brain/blood barrier entirely. It can also be inhaled into the lungs
where it passes through the mucous membranes of the lungs. All these
avoid the issue of silver chloride formation. I think these pathways for
silver ions are too often overlooked, esp. the ease of use of a nasal
spray bole used with ionic silver. 
*   From one of the posts here: Your saliva has over 200
different proteins and fully one third of body proteins are
metalloproteins I.E. carrying metallic ions. Thus, reactive ions
(missing one or more electrons) can be transported past the stomach and
thru the circulatory system without local reactions, ie Silver Ions
reacting with chloride ions to from Silver chloride. 
*   Silver ions can bind with a substance other than
chlorine in the stomach and then pass through the digestive system.
Makers of silver citrate products claim that their product passes
through the digestive system unchanged ant that pathogens consider the
citrate as food. When the pathogen digests the silver 

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[Ruth Bertella]

Are y'all talking about the Mr. Clean Eraser cleaning pad thing or the dish 
sponges with the scrubber thingy's on one side?  - or - both?

- Original Message - 
  From: Dee Fitzpatrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:07 AM
  Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert!


I can't see how they are poison Mary, nothing comes off of them.  Even 
if a minute amount did, as I say, I rinse the dishes off and dry them.  No-one 
is sick in my house.  dee 

---Original Message---

From: mborg...@att.net
Date: 30/10/2008 14:17:20
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

Dee,

This is exactly what I was saying NO ONE WISHES TO GIVE UP THE LITTLE 
WHITE POISON PADS.

It is your health, you can always find dish soap that is non toxic.


Mary 
  
   

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[mborgert]

I was speaking about the eraser mr clean, it is called many other things.
-- Original message from "Ruth Bertella" berte...@lfdcbham.com: --  





Are y'all talking about the Mr. Clean "Eraser"cleaning pad thing or the dish sponges with the scrubber thingy's on one side? - or - both?

- Original Message - 

From: Dee Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert!





I can't see how they are poison Mary, nothing comes off of them. Even if a minute amount did,as I say, I rinse the dishes off and dry them. No-one is sick in my house. dee


---Original Message---


From: mborg...@att.net
Date: 30/10/2008 14:17:20
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert!


Dee,

This is exactly what I was saying NO ONE WISHES TO GIVE UP THE LITTLE WHITE POISON PADS.

It is your health, you can always find dish soap that is non toxic.


Mary

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[mborgert]

Dee,

Why are you arguing with me??
I am mearly telling you that it contains melamine, you may not feel it, smell it or taste it butpoison is poison.
Keep using it, time will tell if anyone in you family gets sick.

Mary

Mary
-- Original message from "Dee Fitzpatrick" d...@deetroy.org: -- 









I don't find any problems with the little pads and I use non toxic things foreverything else. That is, I use soap-nuts to wash clothes with (no softener) and Feem for cleaning surfaces such as floors which are dirty - otherwise just micro-fibre cloths and water. The little pads clean all the bathroom things just fine, without using other more toxic substances. dee

---Original Message---


From: indi
Date: 30/10/2008 14:38:23
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

There are quite a few alternatives to "cleaning" with poison:
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8keywords=non%20toxic%20dish%20soapindex=blendedlink%5Fcode=qs

indi

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[mborgert]

Dear Indi.

Thank you for the information
I am a professional non toxic house cleaner, I have 17 clients that I clean myself and I am 65. I research everything I use because I use theseproducts continually.
One can almost tell what kind of diseases the client and family has just by what is under the sink.
I also specialize in molds, it is amazing what kinds of diseases they can produce.

I did not know, but you know those little rubber duckys that children use in the tub? 
I was cleaning out the tub, a few of these were in the tub,so I squirted out the water... lo and behold what came out was pure black mold.
I told my client, she now squirts all water out after the bath and has made the holes bigger.
Goes to show it can hide anywhere.
Mary
-- Original message from indi indi.sha...@gmail.com: --   There are quite a few alternatives to "cleaning" with poison: http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8keywords=non%20toxic%20dish%20soapindex=blended  link%5Fcode=qs   indi   On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:41:17 +  Dee wrote:Well I use the little melanine pads to clean dishes with because it   means I don't have to use washing up liquid which is highly toxic. I   cannot see a problem, because I rinse it under the tap after using   anyway, and then dry. dee Marshall Dudley wrote:Using scrubbing pads made of melamine properly should not be aproblem, but I would not put it in my mouth since very smallamounts of both formaldehyde and melamine monomer could leach out. --   The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour  

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

[sol]

Once a nontoxic liquid dish soap grew black mold right in the liquid. 
For the longest time I could not figure out how the black mold and mold 
smell was getting into all my dishrags and sponges. I could not get all 
the mold spores out of the soap dispensers so had to throw them all out. 
Just changing to a different brand was not enough (I went back to 
regular dishwashing liquid).


I'm planning to try some of the non-toxic alternatives mentioned in this 
thread. I do have a lot of grease to deal with, as we eat a lot of 
good fats. It can be hard to get the coconut oil out of my coffee mug. 
Well I guess the oil is gone, but the coffee and tea stains are more 
difficult if the beverage has had fat in it. Or so it seems.

sol



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