Re: CSionic silver and argyria
Hi Beth. I'm just curious -- where are you discussing CS that Rosemary Jacobs has access to your email address and to the fact that you use CS? I don't know the answer to your question, but I'm sure that several people on this list do -- and will respond to you. MA -- Original message from Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com: -- I know that most folks are saying that you can't get argyria with ionic silver, but have had my faith shaken just a bit. Some lady called Rosemary Jacobs e-mailed me that if I continued to use ionic silver, I would certainly turn blue. Now, while I'm sure she has an angle, I do have a question. I have had acne for a while, and recently I started washing my face morning and night with my ionic ( clear colored) silver.It has really seemed to clear up my skin very nicely. I don't have alot of exposure to the sun (almost none,right now, since I live in Alaska), would there still be a danger of discoloring my face over a long period of timebecause I wash with cs morning and night? Thanks - Beth Methven
CSHi all I'm new 2 the list have some ????
.I learned about Colloidal Silver last year when a friend who was planning
her
husband's funeral, {they told her at the local hospital there was no hope.
}
found out about silver. She got some and when the nurses were out of the
room started giving it to him. In 2 a half weeks he was home. He is
doing fine now. I have since then, been reading all I can find on the
subject.
.I have found that another e-mail friend I have in Texas had the
same situation. They called her family to the hospital in Tenn. to say
good-bye 2 her father. She is a Veterinarian's assistant and they use it
for the animals. She started giving it 2 her dad, told her brother and
he warned the nurses that she was giving Dad horse medicine. She
still gave it 2 him at night. It took about 5 weeks but he is now doing
fine
and lives in Virginia. Another fellow at a local restaurant, where we
go for breakfast every other Thursday, heard us talking about it and
came up 2 the table and said, I heard you mention silver. I can tell
you about that-- It saved my whife's life. She fell on the ice and got a
long gash in her upper leg. They sewed it up and she got an infection.
After 15 months of all sorts of stuff it was spreading and just got
worse. They finally sent her to a Hard Cure center in Rochester. They
used silver and in about 5 days it was cured. / I told a friend
about it and it has cured her shingles. ( 3 days ) I cured an ear infection
in 1
of our dogs and my son also cured an ear infection in 1 of his dogs.
Needless 2 say I'm convinced it is Super. Now I've ranted 2 U like I did
to Mike D. here R my ???---1. Where is the best place 2 get the wire or rods
I need. I called local jewelers with no luck. { I'm not sure how 2 use a
silver coin in the generator.}
2. I have been reading several books in a couple it calls 4 3 nine
volt batteries 2 B used in the generator and in another it calls for 49 volt
batteries.. Which should I use? { I'm just constructig my generator now-}
3. The book also calls 4 zipper wire I don't know what in the dickens
that iswill the speaker wire U use 2 hook up a speaker system in a car
work??? I'll most likely bombard U with I hope U don't mind.. Thanks,
Lois
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Re: CSHi all I'm new 2 the list have some ????
Hi Lois. Welcome to the list. Glad to have you here, and glad to hear that you are already educated about the efficacy of Colloidal Silver. One of the things you will learn here is that we generally refer to CS as EIS which stands for *electrically isolated silver* -- this refers to the manner in which it is made, and differentiates it from the generic term *colloidal silver* which is used to describe many silver compounds other than what we represent here. As far as your questions are concerned, three nine-volt batteries are usually used in a manual system like you are describing. You should also know that there are available to you an assortment of automatic generators which have the advantage of turning themselves off when your EIS has reached the desired ppm-level. This gives you the freedom to make EIS while you're at work, or while you're sleeping. One of our list members, Ode Coyote, makes a unit he calls a Silver Puppy which many people here use. You can also go to www.wishgranted.com and purchase a Colloid Master. There are others, as well. Most units come with silver bars, and are ready to plug in and go. I have no idea what a zipper wire is -- sorry. We don't have an ounce of problems with questions -- so ask away. I do have one request of you -- would you mind very much eliminating the *U, 2 and R*'s from your messages, and replace them with *you*, *two* and *are*? I'm having a hard time reading your post. I think that those of us who are not teenagers are unused to these trendy abbreviations. Thanks for giving that your consideration! :-) MA
-- Original message from zzekel...@aol.com: -- .I learned about Colloidal Silver last year when a friend who was planning herhusband's funeral, {they told her at the local hospital there was no hope. } found out about silver. She got some and when the nurses were out of theroom started giving it to him. In 2 a half weeks he was home. He isdoing fine now. I have since then, been reading all I can find on thesubject..I have found that another e-mail friend I have in Texas had thesame situation. They called her family to the hospital in Tenn. to saygood-bye 2 her father. She is a Veterinarian's assistant and they use itfor the animals. She started giving it 2 her dad, told her brother andhe warned the nurses that she was giving Dad "horse medicine". Shestill gave it 2 him at night. It took about 5 weeks but he is now doing fineand lives in Virginia. Another fellow at a local restaurant, where wego for breakfast every other Thursday, heard us talking about it andcame up 2 the table and said, " I heard you mention silver. I can tellyou about that-- It saved my whife's life. She fell on the ice and got along gash in her upper leg. They sewed it up and she got an infection.After 15 months of all sorts of "stuff" it was spreading and just gotworse. They finally sent her to a "Hard Cure "center in Rochester. Theyused silver and in about 5 days it was cured." / I told a friendabout it and it has cured her shingles. ( 3 days ) I cured an ear infection in 1of our dogs and my son also cured an ear infection in 1 of his dogs. Needless 2 say I'm convinced it is Super. Now I've ranted 2 U like I did to Mike D. here R my ???---1. Where is the best place 2 get the wire or rods I need. I called local jewelers with no luck. { I'm not sure how 2 use a silver coin in the generator.} 2. I have been reading several books in a couple it calls 4 3 nine volt batteries 2 B used in the generator and in another it calls for 49 volt batteries.. Which should I use? { I'm just constructig my generator now-} 3. The book also calls 4 "zipper wire" I don't know what in the dickens that iswill the speaker wire U use 2 hook up a speaker system in a car work??? I'll most likely bombard U with I hope U don't mind.. Thanks, Lois**Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010)
Re: CSHi all I'm new 2 the list have some ????
I buy . silver wire here:
http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four
The rest of your questions are probably better answered by someone with
experience using the LVDC method... I plan to give that a try sometime, but
as of yet I've only used the HVAC method. You can find instructions for
making simple versions of both kinds of generator here:
http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/OtherBioelectronics/ColloidalSilver.htm
I've had excellent results following the instructions on that page for the
HVAC generator.
Cheers,
indi
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 10:52:43AM -0500, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
.I learned about Colloidal Silver last year when a friend who was planning
her
husband's funeral, {they told her at the local hospital there was no
hope. }
found out about silver. She got some and when the nurses were out of the
room started giving it to him. In 2 a half weeks he was home. He is
doing fine now. I have since then, been reading all I can find on the
subject.
.I have found that another e-mail friend I have in Texas had the
same situation. They called her family to the hospital in Tenn. to say
good-bye 2 her father. She is a Veterinarian's assistant and they use it
for the animals. She started giving it 2 her dad, told her brother and
he warned the nurses that she was giving Dad horse medicine. She
still gave it 2 him at night. It took about 5 weeks but he is now doing
fine
and lives in Virginia. Another fellow at a local restaurant, where we
go for breakfast every other Thursday, heard us talking about it and
came up 2 the table and said, I heard you mention silver. I can tell
you about that-- It saved my whife's life. She fell on the ice and got a
long gash in her upper leg. They sewed it up and she got an infection.
After 15 months of all sorts of stuff it was spreading and just got
worse. They finally sent her to a Hard Cure center in Rochester. They
used silver and in about 5 days it was cured. / I told a friend
about it and it has cured her shingles. ( 3 days ) I cured an ear
infection in 1
of our dogs and my son also cured an ear infection in 1 of his dogs.
Needless 2 say I'm convinced it is Super. Now I've ranted 2 U like I
did to Mike D. here R my ???---1. Where is the best place 2 get the wire
or rods I need. I called local jewelers with no luck. { I'm not sure how
2 use a silver coin in the generator.}
2. I have been reading several books in a couple it calls 4 3 nine
volt batteries 2 B used in the generator and in another it calls for 49
volt batteries.. Which should I use? { I'm just constructig my
generator now-}
3. The book also calls 4 zipper wire I don't know what in the
dickens that iswill the speaker wire U use 2 hook up a speaker system
in a car work??? I'll most likely bombard U with I hope U don't
mind.. Thanks, Lois
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Re: CSHi all I'm new 2 the list have some ????
On Dec 6, 2008, at 9:52 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
Needless 2 say I'm convinced it is Super. Now I've ranted 2 U
like I did to Mike D. here R my ???---1. Where is the best place 2 get
the wire or rods I need. I called local jewelers with no luck. { I'm
not sure how 2 use a silver coin in the generator.}
2. I have been reading several books in a couple it calls 4 3
nine volt batteries 2 B used in the generator and in another it calls
for 49 volt batteries.. Which should I use? { I'm just
constructig my generator now-}
3. The book also calls 4 zipper wire I don't know what in the
dickens that iswill the speaker wire U use 2 hook up a speaker
system in a car work??? I'll most likely bombard U with I hope
U don't mind.. Thanks, Lois
Hi, Lois,
here are some thoughts on your questions:
1. I called around to the local jeweler's supply store, the place where
jewelers buy supplies, and got some .999 silver wire from him. There
are online sources as well. I prefer to get a larger diameter wire (10
gauge), as it seems to go faster that way. But any type of pure silver
wire will do. Fine Silver is 99.92% pure silver, and there is one grade
above that, 99.99 % pure. I use the .9992 and it works just fine,
though some prefer to use the 4 nines silver as it can be called.
2. I use 3 nine volt batteries hooked together. Sometimes I will add a
fourth one in if I feel like it, but 3 works well for me.
3. I am not sure what they are referring to when they say zipper
wire, but I will guess that they may mean wire with alligator clips on
it to connect the parts together. Yes, speaker wire would work for
that, probably most any copper wire would be ok, IF it is being used
just to connect the parts together. I just got a little bag of colored
wires with alligator clips on the ends from Radio Shack.
Good to hear about people's successes with silver, thanks for posting
them. Kathryn
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Thank you for your reply.. I will hold off on the shortcut typing. :-)--- I will try the site you mentioned. I'm also curious about the silver Puppy . Thanks again, Lois ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0010)
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On 12/6/08, zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
1. Where is the best place 2 get the wire or rods
I need. I called local jewelers with no luck. { I'm not sure how 2 use a
silver coin in the generator.}
The jeweler should be able to sell you some fine silver wires. Fine
silver is generally 99.9% fine, which is fine (pun intended) for
making CS. Ask for 12 gage wire. It will be more expensive from a
jeweler. Try somewhere like www.ccsilver.com
To use coins, have the flat sides face each other in the brewing jar,
just make sure that if you use another metal to connect to the coins
(other than silver) that this base metal does not touch the water in
the brew jar.
2. I have been reading several books in a couple it calls 4 3 nine
volt batteries 2 B used in the generator and in another it calls for 49 volt
batteries.. Which should I use? { I'm just constructig my generator
now-}
You can make colloidal silver with a wide range of voltages. Four 9
volt batteries is 36 volts. You can make it with one 9 volt battery,
it will just take longer to make. Higher voltages like 36 volts makes
the process start faster, but once it starts, unless you have a
current limiter in the circuit, or use a resistor to limit current, it
is easy to have the process run away or proceed too quickly, once it
starts putting silver into the water.
3. The book also calls 4 zipper wire I don't know what in the dickens
that iswill the speaker wire U use 2 hook up a speaker system in a car
work??? I'll most likely bombard U with I hope U don't mind.. Thanks,
Lois
I think zipper wire is like the generic speaker wire which has 2
insulated conductors side by side. If you cut them apart at one end
and then pull them apart, they will pull apart as if you were
unzipping them. (The thin insulation connecting the 2 wires together
will separate.)
Dan
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Re: CSionic silver and argyria
I don't think it's possible to color the skin with CS, as we make it, by applying it topically on the top of the skin. Rosemary Jacobs has an axe to grind, there are some concerns about argyria, but she is not an honest sorce of information on them. Dan On 12/6/08, marmar...@bellsouth.net marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Beth. I'm just curious -- where are you discussing CS that Rosemary Jacobs has access to your email address and to the fact that you use CS? I don't know the answer to your question, but I'm sure that several people on this list do -- and will respond to you. MA -- Original message from Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com: -- I know that most folks are saying that you can't get argyria with ionic silver, but have had my faith shaken just a bit. Some lady called Rosemary Jacobs e-mailed me that if I continued to use ionic silver, I would certainly turn blue. Now, while I'm sure she has an angle, I do have a question. I have had acne for a while, and recently I started washing my face morning and night with my ionic ( clear colored) silver. It has really seemed to clear up my skin very nicely. I don't have alot of exposure to the sun ( almost none, right now, since I live in Alaska) , would there still be a danger of discoloring my face over a long period of time because I wash with cs morning and night? Thanks - Beth Methven -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS4 electrode CS for indi.
Thanks you Neville, that is fascinating. My current method (HVAC cone) uses four feet of silver wire coiled in the bottom of the brew chamber (which is already a lot of surface area), but now you've got me thinking about adding a third electrode at the surface of the solution. I'm thinking that might give me a similar improvement in brewing time. Cheers, indi On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 03:11:49PM +1030, Neville wrote: Just to conclude my little 'play around' with a 4 electrode generator indi, I offer the following. 1100ml and 1 1/2 hour production time. Pure water only, (no seed), approximately 20ppm before stabilisation, (result dependant on temperature of course). Distilled water 1 litre, (no seed), 1 hour production time approximately 16ppm, (again dependant on temperature). Solution totally clear. During stabilisation time frame solution darkens to very deep golden colour, (as expected and anticipated). I have deduced from this that I now have the best of both worlds. While using a normal generator for the production of my daily intake of CS which I can store I can now produce CS in a quicker time frame and of relatively high ppm, in fact I could go as high as the production process would allow, for immediate use if and when required, but if ingested it *must* used while still clear, [my determination]. I now know I can generate a relatively high ppm CS solution in even quicker time frame if only using a 250ml glass which is what I would do when necessary to ensure it is used within 12 hours, providing it remains clear for that time frame, (which I doubt), but there is no problem in producing more if necessary. My reasoning is that if taken within 12 hours, (incorporating the above proviso), it has not had enough time for ions to agglomerate to form the larger particles, (evidenced by colour), making it ideal for immediate medicinal purposes.[my determination] If left to darken, (which would be preferable), it would be ideal for topical use, and if I decide to ingest it for any reason I would still do so but in smaller quantities and only for a short time, again only for an immediate treatment.[my determination] Well, there you go indi, that's my little experiment done accompanied by explanations, including the provisos', of the uses I would put the resultant solution to, covered. P.S. Colour requires more research as I need to know more about the shape of the particles and the influence any given shape would have on any given colour, if that's plausible. I have some information here but want to find a bit more before I am satisfied. Neville. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2008 #670
Thanks for all the response about Rosemary Jacobs. I have alot of friends that have used cs without discoloration for years, but that Rosemary Jacobs has a way of coming across that makes you wonder. Are there any records anywhere showing that she or any of the blue men have made money from pharmacies, FDA, movies, books, etc because of their argyria? I am getting ready to do a colloidal silver seminar and would love some proof to show that these folks are benefiting from their condition and aren't trying to reverse the effects at all. thanks - Beth Methven
CSHi all I'm new 2 the list have some ????
-- Original message from zzekel...@aol.com: -- Thank you for your reply.. I will hold off on the shortcut typing. ***Thanks -- that's appreciated!! :-) I'm also curious about the "silver Puppy" . ***Ode's on the list -- just ask him to speak up -- or to email you privately. MA **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010)
RE: CSHi all I'm new 2 the list have some ????
Ode's site is: http://silverpuppy2.com/We have a silver puppy that we are very happy with it's operation (easy). He will sell extra wire sets that fit his machines and we like having the 2oz glass spray bottles to carry eis with us wherever we go. All of this items are on his site.Best of luck..Dianne From: marmar...@bellsouth.netto: silver-l...@eskimo.comdate: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:58:35 +Subject: CSHi all I'm new 2 the list have some -- Original message from zzekel...@aol.com: -- Thank you for your reply.. I will hold off on the shortcut typing. ***Thanks -- that's appreciated!! :-) I'm also curious about the silver Puppy . ***Ode's on the list -- just ask him to speak up -- or to email you privately. MA **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010)
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I have used Canadian maple leaf silver coins since day one.I got a pair of alligator clip wires ,red and black from Radio Shack for about $1.49 and I suspend the coins from a home-made gantry and let them dangle in the water.[not letting the clips get in the water] . I have tried different voltages AC and DC,but finally settled on a transformer @ 34 Volt rectified to DC. I use two coins so I don't have to worry about polarity. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
