Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CS>Vitamin D Questions

[sol]

Day Sutton wrote:
easy to get rid of; just donate blood.  help yourself and others 
too.(whole blood, not plasma)
Not every one is allowd to donate at all. And you can get turned away 
for having an elevated BP or temp on the day.
So it is a good idea IMHO, to institute measures that slow down iron 
loading between donations.
I personally AM donating, and plan to continue. But I also take other 
measures. Including stopping oral vit C.

sol


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CS>Anyone else treating SIBO

[Arlene Hansen]

with Colloidal Silver?  I recently started after having treated with months on 
Xifaxan.  I make my own and would really appreciate feedback as to personal 
experience regarding protocol (ppm, frequency, etc.).

thank you,
arlene
in
california



  

Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment

[Bob Banever]

You can get a 20% lidocaine gel in the drug store... I believe it's Anbesol.  
Procaine and novocaine (same thing) are by prescription only.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: jessie70 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:19 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment


  Brooks, are Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine solution by prescription only?  
Thanks, Jess

   Original Message-
  From: brooks76009 [mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com]
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:59 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment


Oil of Clove does, indeed, help most toothaches. There is another protocol, 
which we have found to be of valueespecially in cases presenting as a 
result of the pulp chamber contents (especially the nerve fiber)being exposed. 
We have achieved 
excellent, emergency response to the following protocol. Using 10 to 20 ppm 
colloidal silver as the parent solution, add 10%---by volume---of full-strength 
DMSO to CS (90% by volume) and swish (especially in the locale of the affected 
tooth) gently for about 5 minutes..then expectorate the residual fluid. If 
there is much attendant pain,an ancillary step may be added---for 
significant---high-speed pain relief. That being using a clean cotton 
swabdipped in 2% or 4% strength, Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine 
solutionapply directly to the insulted tooth surface with the end of the 
swab (try to keep the tongue from rubbing against the toothespecially for 
the first 30 seconds after application). In sharp-pain cases involving the lean 
tissue surrounding the tooth proper.it is advisable to paint the flesh 
surrounding the problem tooth, (using the Lidocaine-impregnated swab) to an 
area of about 1/4 inch diameter. This simple address has demonstrated to ! 
furnish very satisfactory results. 
Within 30 minutes following this protocol, it is advisable to gargle the 
mouth with 10 ppm CS (90% by volume) and DMSO (10% by volume).for 5 minutes 
and then expectorating. Repating this last step every 3 hours has yielded the 
best control...for us. 
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 









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  Subject : Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

  Date : Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:10:15 -0800

  From : Malcolm 

  To : silver-list@eskimo.com







  Hi, another old-time temporary fix, for the tooth part, is oil of clove 

  which pharmacies used to carry but also likely nowadays found in health 

  organic supplement type stores. Soak a tooth pick in the oil of clove 

  and dab it onto the tooth - the stuff stings like crazy so minimize lip 

  contact. HTH, Malcolm 





  On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 21:09 +, gwms...@optonline.net wrote: 

  > Happy Holiday to All. I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have 

  > a crashing tooth ache and sore throat. I have been gargling and 

  > drinking CS. I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along 

  > with CS on my tooth H-E-L-P. 

  > 





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Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment

[leslie]

I was wondering if 20 ppm was too strong? I hav e always tried to get 10 ppm 
and worried about using if was much stronger. I am due to have a broken off 
tooth removed the 31st because the dentist said was infected deep at the root 
and would keep coming back if I didn't remove it. What do you think about that? 
thanks,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: brooks76009 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 5:59 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment


  Oil of Clove does, indeed, help most toothaches. There is another protocol, 
which we have found to be of valueespecially in cases presenting as a 
result of the pulp chamber contents (especially the nerve fiber)being exposed. 
We have achieved 
  excellent, emergency response to the following protocol. Using 10 to 20 ppm 
colloidal silver as the parent solution, add 10%---by volume---of full-strength 
DMSO to CS (90% by volume) and swish (especially in the locale of the affected 
tooth) gently for about 5 minutes..then expectorate the residual fluid. If 
there is much attendant pain,an ancillary step may be added---for 
significant---high-speed pain relief. That being using a clean cotton 
swabdipped in 2% or 4% strength, Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine 
solutionapply directly to the insulted tooth surface with the end of the 
swab (try to keep the tongue from rubbing against the toothespecially for 
the first 30 seconds after application). In sharp-pain cases involving the lean 
tissue surrounding the tooth proper.it is advisable to paint the flesh 
surrounding the problem tooth, (using the Lidocaine-impregnated swab) to an 
area of about 1/4 inch diameter. This simple address has demonstrated to ! 
furnish very satisfactory results. 
  Within 30 minutes following this protocol, it is advisable to gargle the 
mouth with 10 ppm CS (90% by volume) and DMSO (10% by volume).for 5 minutes 
and then expectorating. Repating this last step every 3 hours has yielded the 
best control...for us. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 









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Subject : Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

Date : Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:10:15 -0800

From : Malcolm 

To : silver-list@eskimo.com







Hi, another old-time temporary fix, for the tooth part, is oil of clove 

which pharmacies used to carry but also likely nowadays found in health 

organic supplement type stores. Soak a tooth pick in the oil of clove 

and dab it onto the tooth - the stuff stings like crazy so minimize lip 

contact. HTH, Malcolm 





On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 21:09 +, gwms...@optonline.net wrote: 

> Happy Holiday to All. I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have 

> a crashing tooth ache and sore throat. I have been gargling and 

> drinking CS. I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along 

> with CS on my tooth H-E-L-P. 

> 





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RE: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment

[jessie70]

Brooks, are Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine solution by prescription only?  
Thanks, Jess

 Original Message-
From: brooks76009 [mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment


  Oil of Clove does, indeed, help most toothaches. There is another protocol, 
which we have found to be of valueespecially in cases presenting as a 
result of the pulp chamber contents (especially the nerve fiber)being exposed. 
We have achieved 
  excellent, emergency response to the following protocol. Using 10 to 20 ppm 
colloidal silver as the parent solution, add 10%---by volume---of full-strength 
DMSO to CS (90% by volume) and swish (especially in the locale of the affected 
tooth) gently for about 5 minutes..then expectorate the residual fluid. If 
there is much attendant pain,an ancillary step may be added---for 
significant---high-speed pain relief. That being using a clean cotton 
swabdipped in 2% or 4% strength, Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine 
solutionapply directly to the insulted tooth surface with the end of the 
swab (try to keep the tongue from rubbing against the toothespecially for 
the first 30 seconds after application). In sharp-pain cases involving the lean 
tissue surrounding the tooth proper.it is advisable to paint the flesh 
surrounding the problem tooth, (using the Lidocaine-impregnated swab) to an 
area of about 1/4 inch diameter. This simple address has demonstrated to ! 
furnish very satisfactory results. 
  Within 30 minutes following this protocol, it is advisable to gargle the 
mouth with 10 ppm CS (90% by volume) and DMSO (10% by volume).for 5 minutes 
and then expectorating. Repating this last step every 3 hours has yielded the 
best control...for us. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 









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Subject : Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

Date : Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:10:15 -0800

From : Malcolm 

To : silver-list@eskimo.com







Hi, another old-time temporary fix, for the tooth part, is oil of clove 

which pharmacies used to carry but also likely nowadays found in health 

organic supplement type stores. Soak a tooth pick in the oil of clove 

and dab it onto the tooth - the stuff stings like crazy so minimize lip 

contact. HTH, Malcolm 





On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 21:09 +, gwms...@optonline.net wrote: 

> Happy Holiday to All. I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have 

> a crashing tooth ache and sore throat. I have been gargling and 

> drinking CS. I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along 

> with CS on my tooth H-E-L-P. 

> 





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Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment

[brooks76009]

Oil of Clove does, indeed, help most toothaches.  There is another protocol, which we have found to be of valueespecially in cases presenting as a result of the pulp chamber contents (especially the nerve fiber)being exposed.  We have achieved
excellent, emergency response to the following protocol.  Using 10 to 20 ppm colloidal silver as the parent solution, add 10%---by volume---of full-strength DMSO to CS (90% by volume) and swish (especially in the locale of the affected tooth) gently for about 5 minutes..then expectorate the residual fluid.  If there is much attendant pain,an ancillary step may be added---for significant---high-speed pain relief.  That being using a clean cotton swabdipped in  2% or 4% strength, Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine solutionapply directly to the insulted tooth surface with the end of the swab (try to keep the tongue from rubbing against the toothespecially for the first 30 seconds after application).  In sharp-pain cases involving the lean tissue surrounding the tooth proper.it is advisable to paint the flesh surrounding the problem tooth, (using the Lidocaine-impregnated swab) to an area of about 1/4 inch diameter.  This simple address has demonstrated to !
 furnish very satisfactory results. 
Within 30 minutes following this protocol, it is advisable to gargle the mouth with 10 ppm CS (90% by volume) and DMSO (10% by volume).for 5 minutes and then expectorating.  Repating this last step every 3 hours has yielded the best control...for us.
 Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.



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 Subject : Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY
 Date : Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:10:15 -0800
 From : Malcolm 
 To : silver-list@eskimo.com



Hi, another old-time temporary fix, for the tooth part, is oil of clove
which pharmacies used to carry but also likely nowadays found in health
organic supplement type stores.  Soak a tooth pick in the oil of clove
and dab it onto the tooth - the stuff stings like crazy so minimize lip
contact.  HTH, Malcolm 


On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 21:09 +, gwms...@optonline.net wrote:
> Happy Holiday to All.  I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have
> a crashing tooth ache and sore throat.  I  have been gargling and
> drinking CS.  I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along
> with CS on my tooth  H-E-L-P.
>  


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Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

[Day Sutton]

sorry, I said "soak" I meant two to three drops...

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Day Sutton  wrote:

> This is HOT!, but It works overnight.  Soak a small piece of cotton with
> Oil of Orageno, place it on the offending tooth (between tooth and gum) and
> leave it overnight.   Let me know what you find
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Smitty  wrote:
>
>> Go here for a YouTube video =
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIV2JV7hmpo
>>
>> Smitty
>>
>> ~~
>>
>> On 12/19/08, Bob Banever  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > gwms62,
>> >
>> > I can tell you without a doubt the best treatment for a tooth
>> ache
>> > is the "baby Godzilla".  It is a simple electrical device that creates a
>> > small (3 - 6 volt) current that you shoot through the tooth.  The
>> current
>> > will kill any bacteria inside the tooth or root, and get rid of the pain
>> > permanently.  In fact, it will stop a cavity from getting worse and stop
>> the
>> > need for a root canal too.  I'm not kidding.  Go to the Yahoo groups
>> > "microelectricitygermkiller" and join it.  You want to talk with either
>> "V"
>> > or "bG".  V actually makes and sells a very nice unit for $35.00 with
>> > alternating current, and they have photos and a YouTube video showing
>> how to
>> > make one with simple batteries, sponge, wire, and rubber bands.  THIS
>> DEVICE
>> > IS WORTH A THOUSAND TIMES WHAT IT COSTS!
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: gwms...@optonline.net
>> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:09 PM
>> > Subject: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY
>> >
>> >
>> > Happy Holiday to All.  I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have a
>> > crashing tooth ache and sore throat.  I  have been gargling and drinking
>> CS.
>> >  I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along with CS on my
>> > tooth  H-E-L-P.
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

[Day Sutton]

This is HOT!, but It works overnight.  Soak a small piece of cotton with Oil
of Orageno, place it on the offending tooth (between tooth and gum) and
leave it overnight.   Let me know what you find

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Smitty  wrote:

> Go here for a YouTube video =
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIV2JV7hmpo
>
> Smitty
>
> ~~
>
> On 12/19/08, Bob Banever  wrote:
> >
> >
> > gwms62,
> >
> > I can tell you without a doubt the best treatment for a tooth
> ache
> > is the "baby Godzilla".  It is a simple electrical device that creates a
> > small (3 - 6 volt) current that you shoot through the tooth.  The current
> > will kill any bacteria inside the tooth or root, and get rid of the pain
> > permanently.  In fact, it will stop a cavity from getting worse and stop
> the
> > need for a root canal too.  I'm not kidding.  Go to the Yahoo groups
> > "microelectricitygermkiller" and join it.  You want to talk with either
> "V"
> > or "bG".  V actually makes and sells a very nice unit for $35.00 with
> > alternating current, and they have photos and a YouTube video showing how
> to
> > make one with simple batteries, sponge, wire, and rubber bands.  THIS
> DEVICE
> > IS WORTH A THOUSAND TIMES WHAT IT COSTS!
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: gwms...@optonline.net
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:09 PM
> > Subject: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY
> >
> >
> > Happy Holiday to All.  I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have a
> > crashing tooth ache and sore throat.  I  have been gargling and drinking
> CS.
> >  I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along with CS on my
> > tooth  H-E-L-P.
> >
>
>
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Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

[Smitty]

Go here for a YouTube video =

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIV2JV7hmpo

Smitty

~~

On 12/19/08, Bob Banever  wrote:
>
>
> gwms62,
>
> I can tell you without a doubt the best treatment for a tooth ache
> is the "baby Godzilla".  It is a simple electrical device that creates a
> small (3 - 6 volt) current that you shoot through the tooth.  The current
> will kill any bacteria inside the tooth or root, and get rid of the pain
> permanently.  In fact, it will stop a cavity from getting worse and stop the
> need for a root canal too.  I'm not kidding.  Go to the Yahoo groups
> "microelectricitygermkiller" and join it.  You want to talk with either "V"
> or "bG".  V actually makes and sells a very nice unit for $35.00 with
> alternating current, and they have photos and a YouTube video showing how to
> make one with simple batteries, sponge, wire, and rubber bands.  THIS DEVICE
> IS WORTH A THOUSAND TIMES WHAT IT COSTS!
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: gwms...@optonline.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:09 PM
> Subject: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY
>
>
> Happy Holiday to All.  I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have a
> crashing tooth ache and sore throat.  I  have been gargling and drinking CS.
>  I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along with CS on my
> tooth  H-E-L-P.
>


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Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

[ZZekelink]

I have found that if I soak the bad tooth with hydrogen peroxide it works.  I 
have had 2 abscesses and both were cured with the peroxide.  I held it in my 
mouth for about 3 mins. four or five times a day. I also used CS before bed 
time and held that in my mouth about 3-4 mins.  { didn't swallow the peroxide 
but did the CS .. Good luck, Lois


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Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

[Bob Banever]

gwms62,

I can tell you without a doubt the best treatment for a tooth ache is 
the "baby Godzilla".  It is a simple electrical device that creates a small (3 
- 6 volt) current that you shoot through the tooth.  The current will kill any 
bacteria inside the tooth or root, and get rid of the pain permanently.  In 
fact, it will stop a cavity from getting worse and stop the need for a root 
canal too.  I'm not kidding.  Go to the Yahoo groups 
"microelectricitygermkiller" and join it.  You want to talk with either "V" or 
"bG".  V actually makes and sells a very nice unit for $35.00 with alternating 
current, and they have photos and a YouTube video showing how to make one with 
simple batteries, sponge, wire, and rubber bands.  THIS DEVICE IS WORTH A 
THOUSAND TIMES WHAT IT COSTS!
  - Original Message - 
  From: gwms...@optonline.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:09 PM
  Subject: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY


  Happy Holiday to All.  I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have a 
crashing tooth ache and sore throat.  I  have been gargling and drinking CS.  I 
have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along with CS on my tooth   
   H-E-L-P.

Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

[Malcolm]

Hi, another old-time temporary fix, for the tooth part, is oil of clove
which pharmacies used to carry but also likely nowadays found in health
organic supplement type stores.  Soak a tooth pick in the oil of clove
and dab it onto the tooth - the stuff stings like crazy so minimize lip
contact.  HTH, Malcolm 


On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 21:09 +, gwms...@optonline.net wrote:
> Happy Holiday to All.  I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have
> a crashing tooth ache and sore throat.  I  have been gargling and
> drinking CS.  I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along
> with CS on my tooth  H-E-L-P.
>  


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Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

[hj]

Yes, use 10/90% DMSO/CS. Keep in mouth for at least 4 minutes.
Also swish with *warm* salt water as strong as you can stand it.
Vanilla extract swished for about 2 minutes will help with pain.

Heidi

At 04:09 PM 12/19/2008, you wrote:
Happy Holiday to All.  I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I 
have a crashing tooth ache and sore throat.  I  have been gargling 
and drinking CS.  I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it 
along with CS on my tooth  H-E-L-P.





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CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

[gwms624]

Happy Holiday to All.  I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have a 
crashing tooth ache and sore throat.  I  have been gargling and drinking CS.  I 
have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along with CS on my tooth   
   H-E-L-P.

Re: CS>Iron Overload Question ( Bogus Blood Reports )

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Actually Wayne, I *didn't* write this!  It got tacked on to my post.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 19/12/2008 13:16:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Iron Overload Question ( Bogus Blood Reports )
 

Some interesting points arise from this.

Some confusion on who wrote what ?  That does not matter.


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:59 PM,

Dee Fitzpatrick wrote:

Here is a vit C warning for you. If you have iron overload you aren't
supposed to take ANY oral vit C, because it increases iron absorption.
People who accumulate too much iron (hemochromatosis or idiopathic iron
loading) should not take it.

sol

That sure sounds Mainstream to me.


How is this measured ?The HCT, ( 

Re: CS>Warning Dee I'm not sure where

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

That's ok Lois, I will get it after Christmas and then I will look them up. 
Thank you for all your help.  Kind regards, dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: 19/12/2008 15:39:18
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Warning Dee I'm not sure where
 
you are in the UK but the DMSO book lists Doctors in Kent and West Sussex.
If you like I can send info. on them  Lois


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Re: CS>Vitamin D

[Marshall Dudley]

Wow! I had no idea.  But I looked it up, and D3 is indeed an accepted 
rat poison by way of hypercalcemia.


Marshall

mborg...@att.net wrote:
I was in my local grocery story in the pet food aisle, low and behold, 
there was a box marked vitamin d3 rat poison.


-- Original message from "Paula Perry"
: --

If one is worried about taking vitamin D they might want to
consider a high quality cod liver oil. We hear about flawed
studies all the time that are designed to make people fear
vitamins and other supplements. Of course, usually low quality,
synthetic vitamins are used. The studies are designed to fail and
scare off consumers. Just my 2 cents. I take a liquid supplement
that includes vitamin D in with calcium, magnesium, zinc and some
concentrace minerals. I have read where a lack of vitamin D is
responsible for people getting the flu (lack of sun) in winter.
Paula





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Re: CS>Vitamin D

[mborgert]

I was in my local grocery story in the pet food aisle, low and behold, there was a box marked vitamin d3 rat poison.
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If one is worried about taking vitamin D they might want to consider a high quality cod liver oil. We hear about flawed studies all the time that are designed to make people fear vitamins and other supplements. Of course, usually low quality, synthetic vitamins are used. The studies are designed to fail and scare off consumers. Just my 2 cents. I take a liquid supplement that includes vitamin D in with calcium, magnesium, zinc and some concentrace minerals. I have read where a lack of vitamin D is responsible for people getting the flu (lack of sun) in winter. 
Paula

Re: CS>Warning Dee I'm not sure where

[ZZekelink]

you are in the UK but the DMSO book lists Doctors in Kent and West Sussex. If 
you like I can send info. on them  Lois


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CS>Iron Overload Question ( Bogus Blood Reports )

[Wayne Fugitt]

Some interesting points arise from this.
Some confusion on who wrote what ?  That does not matter.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:59
PM,


Dee Fitzpatrick wrote:

Here is a vit C warning for you. If you have iron overload you aren't
supposed to take ANY oral vit C, because it increases iron absorption.
People who accumulate too much iron (hemochromatosis or idiopathic iron
loading) should not take it.

sol

    That sure sounds Mainstream to me.

How is this measured ?    The HCT, ( Hematocrit value,
reading of the blood )The normal high reading is 50,  or it
was.
My reading was 51.   Doctors worried me about this.  (
maybe unnecessarily )
Then the high normal changed near 20 %.  MY reading would not be
high at all.
At one time it was 48 or 49.  One doctor said,  "that is
just right".
Even slight dehydration can make a few percent difference, and that can
change in a short time.
I do not know where everyone is getting their information, but if it is
from the Mainstream,
Guess what ?   Every single study done on Vitamin C is
worthless,  virtually all were done using the
MDR.  Not 2, 3 or 10 grams per day of vitamin C.   What
can they know ?  Nothing.
Often the doctors are hurting for something to say, relative to blood
reports.
On my most recent, it was so good, This is all the doctor could say 
!  ( Age 70, that same week )
He wrote a noter for his Head Nurse to ask
me,...
  "Is he
drinking too much water" ?  How much is too much, 
Certainly I am.
I keep a glass of water in my hand, or nearby all the time.  ( Yes,
Right NOW )
Must have drank 6 ounces while writing this.  Ate a half grapefruit,
more water.
Then an Emergen C, not a few mineral tablets, not sure what is
next.
Several Genius Nurses told me long ago,  Be Careful, your sodium
will get too low from drinking so
much water.
   On every single blood report, It was just right.
If the body can keep the iron, when the blood cells die, I think it can
hang on to the sodium also.
Remember I said, long ago, I would sweat like crazy, and the sweat was
not salty.
That is not a defect, that is the Genius Body Chemist at work. Yes it
is.
Now I wonder, how many hemocrits do I really need ? 
But I will not stop taking Vitamin C, until the day that I die.
Believe the mainstream, and you are doomed.
I tell people, relative to using the web sites, ..
  "If you are
on a mainstream site, . Get the heck off, as soon as you
can" !
And after much study, and having many, many, blood reports, I have
decided that most of it
is INDEED a Fraud.
I have had many tests that most never have.
EFA Profile
Mycoplasma Test
Heavy Metal Test
Vitamin D test
Blood pH test
and all the normal test.
Not because I needed them,   NO !   I simply wanted
to know.
I tell all my friends get your blood report, and I will bet you $
100.00,  I can tell you many times more than your doctor can tell
you.
That would not be hard to do.  
Still a little confused,  Are we all not a little confused?
Wayne
==
  





At 02:19 PM 12/18/2008, you wrote:
easy to get rid of; just donate
blood.  help yourself and others too.(whole blood, not plasma)




   



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CS>Vit D

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Oh yes, I read the article again, and it says that supplementing with D can 
cause an immuno suppresant reaction.  Dee 

Re: CS>Warning

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

You are lucky, because our doctor had never heard of it in this context.  I
am wondering if the initial rash was caused by the DMSO and then something
else has taken over.  It comes up in different places and is intermittent. 
The first, all-over rash has broken up into separate places, and is worse at
different times.  As I said, he is a very sensitive individual, so maybe
something else is triggering it now.  But the areas are too large to use a
single capsule on and at the moment, we are using calamine and spraying with
CS.  It is not so bad now, but we are going to ask the doc if he can have an
allergy test; something they seem to be loth to do here in the UK (at least
our doctors are).  Anti histamines don't seem to work either, so maybe it is
something else as I say.  Of course, there is always the possibility it is a
virus as well I suppose.  Thank you for your help.  Regards, dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Marlene Hanson
Date: 12/19/08 06:43:04
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Warning
 
Hi Dee,
I have had experience with DMSO for almost 50 years. My father had a neck
injury and his doctor prescribed it for his inflamation.  The Doctor was
very explicit in saying be very careful to apply on  a clean area.  My
father had to wash with soap and rinse very well to remove any soap residue.
He was also told not to cover it  bandage or with clothes or pants or shirts
because they would have soap and other polution on them. My suggestion is to
rinse  the rash with distilled or pure water.  The time the DMSO is active
always seems pretty short.  You might puncture  a vitamin A capsule and
place the oil on the rash  to calm it down. I have never known of any
serious problems from DMSO. I have been irritated and uncomfortable for a
short period of time after using the straight undiluted DMSO. I hope this
helps. Marlene 
PS I have heard if you use it regularly you should take Vitamin D, E, and A 
orally.. 

Re: CS>Vitamin D

[Wayne Fugitt]

Very Good Paula,
>> At 03:56 AM 12/19/2008, you wrote:

If one is worried about taking
vitamin D they might want to consider a high quality cod liver
oil.
 Yes, I take cod liver oil also.
 A few years ago, I installed full spectrum lights in my office,
over two work benches, and in my kitchen.
I di this in February.  Not much sun, cold weather, and I was not
outside as much.
I think I felt better within two weeks.   It could have been
the mind, ... maybe not.
Wayne




 We hear about flawed studies
all the time that are designed to make people fear vitamins and other
supplements. Of course, usually low quality, synthetic vitamins are used.
The studies are designed to fail and scare off consumers. Just my 2
cents. I take a liquid supplement that includes vitamin D in with
calcium, magnesium, zinc and some concentrace minerals. I have read where
a lack of vitamin D is responsible for people getting the flu (lack of
sun) in winter. 
Paula



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CS>Vitamin D

[Paula Perry]

If one is worried about taking vitamin D they might want to consider a high 
quality cod liver oil. We hear about flawed studies all the time that are 
designed to make people fear vitamins and other supplements. Of course, usually 
low quality, synthetic vitamins are used. The studies are designed to fail and 
scare off consumers. Just my 2 cents. I take a liquid supplement that includes 
vitamin D in with calcium, magnesium, zinc and some concentrace minerals. I 
have read where a lack of vitamin D is responsible for people getting the flu 
(lack of sun) in winter. 
Paula