CSThe D Stuff, The Twilight Zone

2008-12-21 Thread Wayne Fugitt


 I wonder where all the Alternative people have gone ?   Disappeared 
I suppose.


 99 percent of everything quoted and discussed is indeed mainstream 
hype and lies.


 We all should realize that for most of our lives,  the smartest 
people in the world, and the ones with the most money,  ( millions of 
them ) have worked hard and long,


  Brainwashing the masses to believe their lies.And 
Generally, I must say,

they have been very successful.

  Before the D stuff,  I will mention again what I have said about

 Proper Calcium Metabolism

 Many of the masses do not have it,  cannot get it, will never 
have proper calcium metabolism,

no matter what they do.Plain and simple.

It is a normal function of a healthy body.   A diseased body, 
damaged organs, missing organs
failure of intercellular communication, .. cannot have Proper 
Calcium metabolism.


Relative to the D Stuff,  It gives the mainstream something to 
regulate, something to discuss,

and something to prescribe.

Yes, they do it.. every day.

Some they will write prescriptions for Proper Calcium Metabolism 
and likewise for

Proper production of Hormone D. Stand and Watch... !

Relative to the D stuff,
( hormone D, I should use the technical name, cholecalciferol )

It not something that one can get in a bottle and kick around on the floor.

I still wonder if it was misnamed intention or by accident, as has 
been claimed.


I am certainly not saying that one should not try to restore the body 
to the point of production.

By supplying all the raw materials and ingredients, it could be done, maybe.

Simply called,   Rebuilding Health, if possible.

How many prescriptions are writed for D, per day ?   Cost must be 5 
to 10 times or more

what it is really worth.

But that is the name of the game.

Millions of Americans play the game of

  Sickness and Death  every day.

Why do they play the game ?
They know no other game to play.

Wayne

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Re: CSPauling and Vit. C

2008-12-21 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
And he lived to a ripe old age, and what's more important, his health and
vitality were good for most of that time.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Shirley Reed
Date: 21/12/2008 02:05:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPauling and Vit. C
 
  Pauling died of prostate cancer.  It came out before his death that he was
taking 43 grams of C daily.  His research had demonstrated that the highest
dose of Vit. C that still demonstrated some benefit was 42 grams per day. 
So when it was made public that he was taking 43 grams, everyone speculated
that he had cancer.  Turned out correct.   I can't recall all the sources
for that info, but I recall feeling sad about the 43 grams because I felt
sure he had cancer when I heard that.  He was admirable for his ethical
stands even more than for his accomplishments in biochemistry and other
fields.  imhopj 
 

Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CSVitamin D Questions

2008-12-21 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
Pardon?  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 20/12/2008 20:51:11
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CSVitamin D Questions
 
At 11:59 AM 12/20/2008, you wrote:

I somehow think that it wouldn't have been the Vit C that was responsible! 
dee 

If that be true,

Why does it not happen to everyone ?

Wayne

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Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CSVitamin D Questions

2008-12-21 Thread Wayne Fugitt


Morning Dee,
At 08:32 AM 12/21/2008, you wrote:
Pardon? Dee 

 I see.
 My mistake.
 Sorry about that.
 I wanted some new glasses, but the man said I did not need
any,

 He may have been wrong,
 Wayne
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RE: CSRemoving biofilm

2008-12-21 Thread Nenah Sylver
DADDYBOB:

. . . Alas, my infection eventually became resistant to MMS and began to
come back despite my increasing doses of MMS. . . . I do think that overuse
of MMS will deplete vitamin C and other nutrients and cause oxidative
damage. 

 

===

Daddybob,

Thank you for sharing this. I have had no personal experience with MMS, and
always resisted using it for some reason. Now I think I know why.

 

Blessings,

Nenah 



Re: CSPauling and Vit. C

2008-12-21 Thread Day Sutton
I have heard that VitC turns into H2O2 in the blood. Can anyone confirm
this?

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

And he lived to a ripe old age, and what's more important, his health
 and vitality were good for most of that time.  Dee

  *---Original Message---*

  *From:* Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com
 *Date:* 21/12/2008 02:05:34
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* CSPauling and Vit. C

   Pauling died of prostate cancer.  It came out before his death that he
 was taking 43 grams of C daily.  His research had demonstrated that the
 highest dose of Vit. C that still demonstrated some benefit was 42 grams per
 day.  So when it was made public that he was taking 43 grams, everyone
 speculated that he had cancer.  Turned out correct.   I can't recall all the
 sources for that info, but I recall feeling sad about the 43 grams because I
 felt sure he had cancer when I heard that.  He was admirable for his ethical
 stands even more than for his accomplishments in biochemistry and other
 fields.  imhopj




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Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CSVitamin D Questions

2008-12-21 Thread Day Sutton
If there is something you need VitC for perhaps 500mg  every hour or two
would work for you. The body flushes it out pretty quick..

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:21 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 Day Sutton wrote:

 Iron level was not bad, but my chelation Dr. said to donate some whole
 blood, to bring it down.
 I didn't start with 10 grams.  started with 500mg caps and graduated to
 Ascorbic Acid powder later on. gradually went up to 10 without bathroom
 interruptions..


 Exactly, and starting low and trying to build up is what I tried and tried
 for years, but I could never get beyond 500 mg reliably without the big D.
 Sometimes I could get away with 1000 mg in one dose, but never could
 determine why ok one day and disaster the next.
 I DO have a sensitive gut, IBS-D for 30 years. Improving.
 sol


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Re: CSUpdate: success interrupted

2008-12-21 Thread Clayton Family
some people are allergic to sulfer, also.  If it sounds like allergic 
hives, is it possible it could be the sulfer in the DMSO?  Ditto the 
carrying stuff into the skin- even detergents on the pajamas might be 
the culprit.

kathryn


On Dec 20, 2008, at 10:31 PM, sol wrote:


That would be a typical allergic hives attack for me.
Try dropping the glycerin out of your mix and see if that helps.
http://www.pioneerthinking.com/glycerin.html
You could be having an allergic reaction to the glycerin?
I ahve a hard time thinking the hives are a direct response to the CS 
and DMSO, as I use those to STOP hives and eczema attacks.
And yes, if you had chemicals on your skin, from any source, soaps, 
detergents, lotions, the DMSO could have carried those into the skin.

sol

Indi wrote:

I seem to have had a serious setback in treating my MRSA.
Until last Wednesday, it seemed I was sure to beat it using the Brooks
Bradley protocol of 75% CS, 10% DMSO, and 15% glycerine, topically 
and as a nasal spray. But on Wednesday aternoon, I noticed a small, 
itchy patch
of red skin on my left forearm. By bedtime, I was covered head to toe 
in
hives, and I still am. Also I am feverish, weak, dizzy, and short of 
breath.

This pretty much feels just as I felt before I discovered the CS.

Perhaps the DMSO carried something else into my bloodstream?
I applied it at night, put on cotton flannel pajamas, and went to 
sleep
every night (showering it off in the morning) for over a week before 
this happened.


Could the MRSA have become immune somehow to the treatment?
According to what I've read it can't do that, but it seems as if it 
has come

back stronger.

Has anyone had any similar experience, of getting well for awhile 
followed

by such a sudden relapse?




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Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CSVitamin D Questions

2008-12-21 Thread Clayton Family


On Dec 20, 2008, at 10:21 PM, sol wrote:


Day Sutton wrote:
Iron level was not bad, but my chelation Dr. said to donate some 
whole blood, to bring it down.
I didn't start with 10 grams.  started with 500mg caps and graduated 
to Ascorbic Acid powder later on. gradually went up to 10 without 
bathroom interruptions..




Exactly, and starting low and trying to build up is what I tried and 
tried for years, but I could never get beyond 500 mg reliably without 
the big D. Sometimes I could get away with 1000 mg in one dose, but 
never could determine why ok one day and disaster the next.

I DO have a sensitive gut, IBS-D for 30 years. Improving.
sol




I have heard of a sensitivity to vitamin C like this when the c has 
been derived by some type of culture, maybe there is fungus involved. 
Just some people reported it, no studies or anything. If the C was made 
from, say, ground up orange peels or rosehips, no problem.-k.



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Re: CSUpdate: success interrupted

2008-12-21 Thread Norton, Steve
I would not use fabric softener on clothes you wear with DMSO. I know my family 
is sensitive to softener. 
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun Dec 21 11:30:55 2008
Subject: Re: CSUpdate: success interrupted

some people are allergic to sulfer, also.  If it sounds like allergic 
hives, is it possible it could be the sulfer in the DMSO?  Ditto the 
carrying stuff into the skin- even detergents on the pajamas might be 
the culprit.
kathryn


On Dec 20, 2008, at 10:31 PM, sol wrote:

 That would be a typical allergic hives attack for me.
 Try dropping the glycerin out of your mix and see if that helps.
 http://www.pioneerthinking.com/glycerin.html
 You could be having an allergic reaction to the glycerin?
 I ahve a hard time thinking the hives are a direct response to the CS 
 and DMSO, as I use those to STOP hives and eczema attacks.
 And yes, if you had chemicals on your skin, from any source, soaps, 
 detergents, lotions, the DMSO could have carried those into the skin.
 sol

 Indi wrote:
 I seem to have had a serious setback in treating my MRSA.
 Until last Wednesday, it seemed I was sure to beat it using the Brooks
 Bradley protocol of 75% CS, 10% DMSO, and 15% glycerine, topically 
 and as a nasal spray. But on Wednesday aternoon, I noticed a small, 
 itchy patch
 of red skin on my left forearm. By bedtime, I was covered head to toe 
 in
 hives, and I still am. Also I am feverish, weak, dizzy, and short of 
 breath.
 This pretty much feels just as I felt before I discovered the CS.

 Perhaps the DMSO carried something else into my bloodstream?
 I applied it at night, put on cotton flannel pajamas, and went to 
 sleep
 every night (showering it off in the morning) for over a week before 
 this happened.

 Could the MRSA have become immune somehow to the treatment?
 According to what I've read it can't do that, but it seems as if it 
 has come
 back stronger.

 Has anyone had any similar experience, of getting well for awhile 
 followed
 by such a sudden relapse?



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CSImmune system at night

2008-12-21 Thread Harold MacDonald

   Sunday, December 21, 2008
   Immune System Works Better at Night
   Greater success fighting infection than during the day, study 
says


   (HealthDay News) -- A good night's sleep really does a sick body 
good, new research says.


   Stanford University research with fruit flies reveals that the 
immune system fights invading bacteria the hardest at night and the least 
during the day. The findings were to be presented Sunday at the American 
Society for Cell Biology annual meeting, in San Francisco.


   These results suggest that immunity is stronger at night, 
consistent with the hypothesis that circadian proteins upregulate 
restorative functions such as specific immune responses during sleep, when 
animals are not engaged in metabolically costly activities, Stanford 
researcher Mimi Shirasu-Hiza said in a news release issued by the conference 
organizers.


   Circadian rhythm paces the human body as well as the fruit fly, 
running internal clock's time for eating and rest every day.


   The researchers noted that previous experiments with flies found 
that bacterial infection threw off the insects' circadian rhythm, and not 
having this internal clock working properly made them highly susceptible to 
infection.


   In this experiment, the researchers infected the flies with two 
different bacteria at different times of day or night. Those infected at 
night were more likely to survive than those infected during the day. The 
researchers also detected low phagocytic activity -- the body's innate 
immune response -- in flies with a corrupt circadian clock.


   More information

   The National Sleep Foundation has more about how sleep works.
   -- Kevin McKeever

   SOURCE: American Society for Cell Biology, news release, Dec. 
14, 2008




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CSImmune system at night ( Sick Body, What about a healthy one )

2008-12-21 Thread Wayne Fugitt

At 12:08 PM 12/21/2008, Harold MacDonald wrote:
 (HealthDay News) -- A good night's sleep really does a sick body 
good, new research says.


Maybe so.  I wonder what it does for a healthy body ?

I proved long ago,  of the three old things necessary for health, ..

Proper Exercise
Proper Nutrition
Proper Sleep,

That Proper sleep was not required.   ( not sure who made up that  )

For years, I took one NAP at night.

The first time I woke, rolled over,   I got up and went to work.

I would work 30, 40 hours and more without going to bed or going to sleep.

Then once, I went from Monday Morning until  Thur night at minnight,
without going to bed.

The next day,  Friday, I was 100 miles from home at 6 AM.

Then once, from Friday AM until Sunday 2 AM I was in Washington DC.
( Actually, Reston VA )

I felt so good, I would have went out on the town, if I had known where to go.
Instead I lay in bed and read a magazine about  30 minutes before 
going to sleep.

( of course I Knew, Washington DC is a dangerous place )

You can tell me about,
Sleep, Exercise, and Nutrition,

But I can tell you about a little work.

I thought the immune system worked 24 hours per day.

It better work in the day time,  one could DIE before night.

Wayne
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Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CSVitamin D Questions

2008-12-21 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
Happens to us all Wayne!  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 21/12/2008 15:49:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CSVitamin D Questions
 
Morning Dee,

At 08:32 AM 12/21/2008, you wrote:

Pardon?  Dee  
 

  I see.

  My mistake.

  Sorry about that.

  I wanted some new glasses, but the man said I did not need any,
 
  He may have been wrong,

  Wayne

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Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CSVitamin D Questions

2008-12-21 Thread sol

Day Sutton wrote:
If there is something you need VitC for perhaps 500mg  every hour or 
two would work for you. The body flushes it out pretty quick..
I believe that to be true, in fact I have read that all that can be 
utilized at a time is 25 mg. I think I've read that changes if there is 
severe infection or disease though.
But at this time, until I get my iron down, and get successful at 
keeping it low, I'm not taking any oral C.
I don't want to risk simply loading back the iron I'm trying to get rid 
of. Once I get ferritin down to optimal, and successfully keep it there 
then will be the time to experiment with oral C. Because of the 
infrequency I am able to get lab tests, it may take 2 years to fully 
sort out.

Meantime, topical C.
sol


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typo correction Re: Vit C warnings, was Re: CSVitamin D Questions

2008-12-21 Thread sol

sol wrote:
I believe that to be true, in fact I have read that all that can be 
utilized at a time is 25 mg. 


Should have been 250 mg.


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CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the wise ones---

2008-12-21 Thread ZZekelink
I bought some 200ppm from the dynamite co. They call theirs solace. I mixed 
1-half tsp. in distilled h2o to come up with 5ppm. I did about a quart. It 
was about 2- 3 weeks ago. {kept in a dark brown bottle in a cool room in the 
dark }  Just got a bottle out and find that the laser line is weak---if I turn 
the bottle a few times the line is dark red.   My question is---Is this safe to 
use internally or are the silver particles too large?? { they  fell to the 
bottom.}  I have only been learning about silver and it's uses for a short time 
 
have so very much to learn.
 I also got a generator set up from  abelandaltasnove.com which uses 4 
9V batteries, a meter with a 33K resistor  two 4 9's  4 inch silver wires.  We 
 made 1 batch, last week. I have noticed that the same thing is happening , a 
light line and then dark when it is mixed..} What did I do wrong,??? Thanks 
for any help you can give===Lois





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CS Vit.C, Linus Pauling,Scurvy,limies!

2008-12-21 Thread Harold MacDonald
I understand that Linus Pauling was the only person to ever be awarded the 
Nobel prize twice for his work with Vitamin C.

I have not heard or read where Vitamin C turns to H2O2 in the blood.
I am reposting a previous post re Vit C. and Scurvy, and if it turns to 
H2O2in the blood, how is it able to act as it does for Scurvy?

Harold

   -Re post-

This weak spot in the artery is likely a symptom of underlying scurvy; a

severe lack of Vitamin C.This lack causes the blood vessels to become very
thin ,weak and porous.The constant pulsing of the heart is much greater
here and stresses the wall of the blood vessel.This creates minute cracks
and the blood seeps out. The bodys' defenses have to stop this leakage and
uses Cholesterol [plaque]as the sealant.Over time this is repeated as the
cholesterol gets stiff and brittle thereby cracking also,so more plaster
is used until the vessel is plugged.
The blood vessels are like the chain which is only as strong as its'
weakest link, and the weakest link is near the heart in the majority of
cases.
The lack of Vit. C in the old days of sailing vessels was the cause of
scurvy amongst sailors.This was also known as the bleeding death as the
blood leaked out into the outer parts of the body.It was quite common for
more than half of the crew to perish on long journeys.
Isn't it significant that mainly the vessels near the heart are the ones
to get clogged?
Picture an old garden hose under pressure and stepping on it up to and
over 72 times a minute,It would not last long without cracking.
My advice is to take mega doses of Vit. C as you may be assured this is
just the tip of the ice-berg.

In this case I would advise to go slowly at first,using small doses of
Vit.C.,building up to mega doses.
The British Empire  came into being because the Navy ship would load up with 
Limes from Portugal when sailing out. The sailors were made to eat a lime 
each day.This kept them healthier than their enemies ,thus taking control of 
the seas.

This is how their nick-name came into being Limies
I can't see where H2O2 would give them that benefit.
It was quite common before Limes[Vit.C] was used,that ships on long[yearly] 
voyages would lose up to half their crews to Scurvy;The Bleeding Death

So I believe;
Harold




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CSVit C and H2O2

2008-12-21 Thread Day Sutton
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  QUOTE
Cancer has an affinity to vitamin C
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=141179#because
a vitamin C molecule is very close to a glucose molecule, and we all
should know that cancer has an affinity to glucose.

Linus Pauling, two time Nobel Lauriat, theorized that if we could get enough
vitamin C into the blood, that the peroxidization (vitamin C is metabolized
into Hydrogen Peroxide
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=141179#)
would be great enough to kill cancer cells.

http://starfishproject.wordpress.com/2008/...nous-vitamin-c/http://starfishproject.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/more-on-intravenous-vitamin-c/
Found this on VitC and H2O2

Oral forms of Vit C will not work.  Only IV

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Re: CSPauling and Vit. C

2008-12-21 Thread Dave
From Educate-yourself.org ... Newer research indicates we need 
hydrogen peroxide for a multitude of other chemical reactions that 
take place throughout the body. For example, we now know that vitamin 
C helps fight infections by producing hydrogen peroxide, which in 
turn stimulates the production of prostaglandins. Also lactobacillus 
found in the colon and vagina produce hydrogen peroxide. This 
destroys harmful bacteria and viruses, preventing colon disease, 
vaginitis, bladder infections and a host of other common ailments. 
(Infect Dis News Aug.8,91:5).


Dave Brown

At 10:45 AM 12/21/2008, you wrote:

I have heard that VitC turns into H2O2 in the blood. Can anyone confirm this?

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Dee Fitzpatrick 
mailto:d...@deetroy.orgd...@deetroy.org wrote:
And he lived to a ripe old age, and what's more important, his 
health and vitality were good for most of that time.  Dee


RE: CSRemoving biofilm

2008-12-21 Thread cking001
I thought we established a while ago that:

MMS is an oxidant

And should be used only long enough to solve the problem at
hand. In other words, NOT as a daily supplement.

If you are CONSTANTLY using MMS, you will age more quickly.
That's why we take antioxidants like vitamin C, to combat the effects
of oxidants.

MMS is powerful stuff and requires more study than the average
doorknob gives to pills and potions.
GET HUMBLE'S BOOK

Chuck
PrettyBird,PrettyBird .. StupidHuman,StupidHuman




On 12/21/2008 11:16:07 AM, Nenah Sylver (nenahsyl...@cox.net) wrote:
 DADDYBOB:
 . . . Alas, my infection eventually became resistant to MMS and began to come
 back despite my increasing doses of MMS. . . . I do think that overuse of
 MMS will deplete vitamin C and other nutrients and cause oxidative damage.
 
 
 ===
 Daddybob,
 Thank you for sharing this. I have had no personal experience with MMS,
 and always resisted using it for some reason. Now I think I know why.
 
 Blessings,
 Nenah
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RE: CSTOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment

2008-12-21 Thread brooks76009
  Dear Jesse,
 Please forgive my tardy reply.  Lidocaine gel (the best form to use) may be obtained without prescription from the Alimed Company.   The url for their website
is  Http://Alimed.com   When the homepage comes up just type lido-gel in the product inquiry window.  The product which is the best for topical use is 3319 and comes in a 2 oz. bottle.  It is 4% strength and costs about $22.00 plus shipping.  It has proven to ber an excellent product...for us.  Two ounces should last the casual used quite a long time.  It is not susceptible to aging effects and may be maintained at room temperature for a long time (years).  We  have used this material for quite some time and it ;has yielded splendid high-speed pain relief in topical applications.
  Normally, it is quite difficult for the lay-person to obtain anything containing 
any of the really useful nerve-blocking agents.  I do not know how much longer this avenue for acquiring this substance will remain openbut it continues to be so at present.  I just purchased two bottles several days agoand did so as an individual citizennot through the foundation.
 I hope this helps.
  Sincerely,   Brooks. 

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 Date : Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:19:26 -0500
 From : jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net
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Brooks, are Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine solution by prescription only?  Thanks, Jess

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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:59 PM
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Subject: Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment


  Oil of Clove does, indeed, help most toothaches. There is another protocol, which we have found to be of valueespecially in cases presenting as a result of the pulp chamber contents (especially the nerve fiber)being exposed. We have achieved 
  excellent, emergency response to the following protocol. Using 10 to 20 ppm colloidal silver as the parent solution, add 10%---by volume---of full-strength DMSO to CS (90% by volume) and swish (especially in the locale of the affected tooth) gently for about 5 minutes..then expectorate the residual fluid. If there is much attendant pain,an ancillary step may be added---for significant---high-speed pain relief. That being using a clean cotton swabdipped in 2% or 4% strength, Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine solutionapply directly to the insulted tooth surface with the end of the swab (try to keep the tongue from rubbing against the toothespecially for the first 30 seconds after application). In sharp-pain cases involving the lean tissue surrounding the tooth proper.it is advisable to paint the flesh surrounding the problem tooth, (using the Lidocaine-impregnated swab) to an area of about 1/4 inch diameter. This simple address has demonstrated to !
 ! furnish very satisfactory results. 
  Within 30 minutes following this protocol, it is advisable to gargle the mouth with 10 ppm CS (90% by volume) and DMSO (10% by volume).for 5 minutes and then expectorating. Repating this last step every 3 hours has yielded the best control...for us. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 









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Subject : Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

Date : Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:10:15 -0800

From : Malcolm 

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Hi, another old-time temporary fix, for the tooth part, is oil of clove 

which pharmacies used to carry but also likely nowadays found in health 

organic supplement type stores. Soak a tooth pick in the oil of clove 

and dab it onto the tooth - the stuff stings like crazy so minimize lip 

contact. HTH, Malcolm 





On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 21:09 +, gwms...@optonline.net wrote: 

> Happy Holiday to All. I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have 

> a crashing tooth ache and sore throat. I have been gargling and 

> drinking CS. I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along 

> with CS on my tooth H-E-L-P. 

> 





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[FW]RE: CSTOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment

2008-12-21 Thread brooks76009

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 Subject : RE: CSTOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment
 Date : Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:27:13 -0500 (EST)
 From : brooks76009 brooks76...@lycos.com
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  Dear Jesse,
 Please forgive my tardy reply.  Lidocaine gel (the best form to use) may be obtained without prescription from the Alimed Company.   The url for their website
is  Http://Alimed.com   When the homepage comes up just type lido-gel in the product inquiry window.  The product which is the best for topical use is 3319 and comes in a 2 oz. bottle.  It is 4% strength and costs about $22.00 plus shipping.  It has proven to ber an excellent product...for us.  Two ounces should last the casual used quite a long time.  It is not susceptible to aging effects and may be maintained at room temperature for a long time (years).  We  have used this material for quite some time and it ;has yielded splendid high-speed pain relief in topical applications.
  Normally, it is quite difficult for the lay-person to obtain anything containing 
any of the really useful nerve-blocking agents.  I do not know how much longer this avenue for acquiring this substance will remain openbut it continues to be so at present.  I just purchased two bottles several days agoand did so as an individual citizennot through the foundation.
 I hope this helps.
  Sincerely,   Brooks. 

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 Subject : RE: CSTOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment
 Date : Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:19:26 -0500
 From : jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net
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Brooks, are Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine solution by prescription only?  Thanks, Jess

 Original Message-
From: brooks76009 [mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY: Comment


  Oil of Clove does, indeed, help most toothaches. There is another protocol, which we have found to be of valueespecially in cases presenting as a result of the pulp chamber contents (especially the nerve fiber)being exposed. We have achieved 
  excellent, emergency response to the following protocol. Using 10 to 20 ppm colloidal silver as the parent solution, add 10%---by volume---of full-strength DMSO to CS (90% by volume) and swish (especially in the locale of the affected tooth) gently for about 5 minutes..then expectorate the residual fluid. If there is much attendant pain,an ancillary step may be added---for significant---high-speed pain relief. That being using a clean cotton swabdipped in 2% or 4% strength, Lidocaine, Procaine or Novocaine solutionapply directly to the insulted tooth surface with the end of the swab (try to keep the tongue from rubbing against the toothespecially for the first 30 seconds after application). In sharp-pain cases involving the lean tissue surrounding the tooth proper.it is advisable to paint the flesh surrounding the problem tooth, (using the Lidocaine-impregnated swab) to an area of about 1/4 inch diameter. This simple address has demonstrated!
  to ! furnish very satisfactory results. 
  Within 30 minutes following this protocol, it is advisable to gargle the mouth with 10 ppm CS (90% by volume) and DMSO (10% by volume).for 5 minutes and then expectorating. Repating this last step every 3 hours has yielded the best control...for us. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 









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Subject : Re: CS>TOOTH EMERGENCY

Date : Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:10:15 -0800

From : Malcolm 

To : silver-list@eskimo.com







Hi, another old-time temporary fix, for the tooth part, is oil of clove 

which pharmacies used to carry but also likely nowadays found in health 

organic supplement type stores. Soak a tooth pick in the oil of clove 

and dab it onto the tooth - the stuff stings like crazy so minimize lip 

contact. HTH, Malcolm 





On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 21:09 +, gwms...@optonline.net wrote: 

> Happy Holiday to All. I'm in the middle of Christmas plans and I have 

> a crashing tooth ache and sore throat. I have been gargling and 

> drinking CS. I have DMSO but not quite sure if I should use it along 

> with CS on my tooth H-E-L-P. 

> 





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