Re: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the wise ones---

[Tony Moody]

Hi Arnold,
That is interesting about the vinegar / acetate .  dunno about insecticide.

But what I want to say is that round about 3 volts is what is used in silver 
plating for stripping 
silver off smoothly. 

OK,
Tony

On 26 Dec 2008 at 18:58, Arnold Beland wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the 

 Hi Marshall,
 
 It is interesting to me that you mention silver acetate. There is a member on
 this list selling a generator using two 1.5 volt batteries for a total of
 three volts as a Power Supply. I have been pondering how this could possibly
 work for some time. A careful reading of his instructions for use on his
 website shows that he instructs the users to clean the rods before using with
 vinegar and for them to be wet with the vinegar when they are inserted into
 the distilled water. Could this explain the use of only three volts? Isn't
 silver acetate used as an insecticide?
 
 Best regards,
 
 Arnold
 

CSThyroid and blood tests

[Paula Perry]

Hi,
I have a big problem. I will try to give you a little background. I had 60 
percent of my Thyroid removed about 26 years ago and they put me on Synthroid. 
I never felt good. Finally, about a year ago I was able to switch to Armour. 
After a few months my doctor decreased the Armour.  I have been taking only 60 
(mg?) from 100. Then I had a test about 6 months ago. The test looked like I 
was on the last end before it would read below normal but she kept me on that 
same dose. Well, after another 6 months, my last test was pretty awful. But, 
guess what? She is on vacation for 2 weeks and will write no new scripts during 
that time, she says so on her office recording.  In the mean time I have been 
trying to figure out my test. I have come to believe I need to get a new doctor 
and quick. Unfortunately there are none that are into natural that I know of. I 
am worried about my blood tests and I believe the hypothyroid is affecting the 
other readings. I also was having problems with adrenals which I thought were 
much improved. I think what happened it is that once my adrenals improved the 
thyroid was able to take-up more of the Armour. Now, it appears hypothyroid.

This is what the Thyroid Study says:
T4 Total 4.64.5-12.5 (normal range)
T3 Uptake 1.2 0.8-1.3   (normal range)
FTI   3.8 5.6-9.6   (normal range)LOW
TSH 3rd Generation   0.608 0.400-4.000 (normal range)
Free T4 1.37 0.80-1.80(normal range)

From what I read the FTI is the most important one and that is the low one.
My other readings where out of normal range. Never have I had such a bad blood 
test.

RBC-High
HGB-High 
HCT High
MCH-High
Other readings on high end without going beyond normal range.

Other readings
NE ABSOLUTE  8.4   High

SODIUM Low
Calculated Osmolality  Low

I am thinking some of this means my blood is too thick? I am thinking the low 
thyroid is affecting the blood. I know the low sodium has something to do with 
the adrenal problem. My AM Cortisol was 10.9 so that was in normal range 
between 5.0-25.0

Does anyone have any ideas on what this all means?  Hope someone can help me 
with this that understands blood tests better than I do. 
Thanks.
Paula

CSNon-healing and Slow-healing skin surface ulcers

[brooks76009]

  I noticed a passing inquiry/observation regarding non-healing skin-surface
ulcers.   A majority of of non-healing skin-surface ulcers have their origin based upon
circulation compromises.presenting especially in diabetics and advanced cardiovascular insults.  During the mid and late 1990s we conducted some very promising
evaluations of these conditions and implementedwhat proved to besome effective protocol addresses.  Most challenging were the non-healing ulcers affecting Type II diabetics.and particularly those presenting on the lower leg extremities and feet.
By far, the most effective protocol proved to be one involving Colloidal Silver,  DMSO and oxygen.  Summarizing the protocol:  The "self-help" version of this experimental protocol consisted, essentially, of a system for applying 100% oxygen as a surrounding atmosphere of the general environmentafter the generous application of a DMSO X Colloidal Silver mixture.  The actual procedure is as follows: (The following procedure was designed for insults presenting in all areas below the knee joint) 1. Performed a preliminary application of undiluted, commercial, 3.5% hydrogen peroxide; allowing approximately 3 minutes or until all foaming action has ceasedfollowed by blotting with clean cotton swab/ball.  2. Generous application of 20 ppm CS (75% by Volume) mixed
with full-strength DMSO (10% by Volume)covering the entire insult area to the point of surface runoff.  Note: Be sure the entire treatment field is completely clear of clothing and other obstructions.  3.  Next, carefully slip a small transparent garbage bag over the lower leg (below the knee), avoiding physical contact with the injured area and carefully gather the top of the bag just below the knee joint. 4. Next, using any convenient source of pure oxygen, with the end of the hose section terminating in a small plastic tubing.insert the tubing well inside the garbage bag and secure the top of the bag with a rubber band.  4. Slowly inflate the bag with O2, until the bag is well filled (it will easily inflate at low pressure).  Note: The actual pressure is not critical, just keep enough pressure applied to prevent the collapse of the garbage bag.  5.  Maintain this arrangement for 15 to 20 minutes.  Actually, we found that the 02 leakage rates to be quite slow, !
 usually allowing us to cut off the pressure valve for extended periods (more than 5 minutes), before the inflated bag became sufficiently deflated to require additional pressure.
   This simple protocol was most impressive in the positive results yielded against some of the most intractable slow or non-healing ulcers.some of quite long-standing nature (over 6 months).  In most cases, twice-daily procedures resulted in size-increase stoppages within 5 days and generation of new wound-edge granulation of tissue beginning within 7 to 10 days.  This, many times, in cases where the ulcers had increased from "match-head" size to that of a silver dollarover a period of 6 months plus.  In approximately 80% of these cases, complete healing occurred within 4 to six weeks-usually depending upon the actual physical size of the ulcer.
One of the most gratifying results was one case involving a Type II diabetic who had an ulcer of over 2" in diameter and two years in age...which had, progressively increased in size while, simultaneously resisting ALL conventional treatments employed by the allopathic community. 
Some of the list members may be interested in evaluating this protocol in their experimental researches.  Please be advised that none of our research protocols are intended as direct treatment for ANY existing medical condition.  We DO NOT PRACTICE MEDICINEin any form.  
   Sincerely,   Brooks Bradley/   



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Re: CSThyroid and blood tests

[Gene Wolfe]

Paula, you need help from people that understand the thyroid, and 
most doctors don't. Here is a Yahoo Group that can help: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones/
There is also a website that the owner of the Yahoo Group has created 
that has a huge amount of information in it. It is 
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ There is also a Yahoo Group 
that can help you find a support group in your state: 
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyroid_Support_Groups-USA/


I agree that you need to find a doctor that understands the thyroid. 
The tests that your doctor has run are not the right tests. You need 
Free T3 and free T4. You need the free T3 to be near the upper limit.


I hope you can find some help,
Gene

At 06:06 AM 12/27/2008, you wrote:

Hi,
I have a big problem. I will try to give you a little background. I 
had 60 percent of my Thyroid removed about 26 years ago and they put 
me on Synthroid. I never felt good. Finally, about a year ago I was 
able to switch to Armour. After a few months my doctor decreased the 
Armour.  I have been taking only 60 (mg?) from 100. Then I had a 
test about 6 months ago. The test looked like I was on the last end 
before it would read below normal but she kept me on that same dose. 
Well, after another 6 months, my last test was pretty awful. But, 
guess what? She is on vacation for 2 weeks and will write no new 
scripts during that time, she says so on her office recording.  In 
the mean time I have been trying to figure out my test. I have come 
to believe I need to get a new doctor and quick. Unfortunately there 
are none that are into natural that I know of. I am worried about my 
blood tests and I believe the hypothyroid is affecting the other 
readings. I also was having problems with adrenals which I thought 
were much improved. I think what happened it is that once my 
adrenals improved the thyroid was able to take-up more of the 
Armour. Now, it appears hypothyroid.


This is what the Thyroid Study says:
T4 Total 4.64.5-12.5 (normal range)
T3 Uptake 1.2 0.8-1.3   (normal range)
FTI   3.8 5.6-9.6   (normal range)LOW
TSH 3rd Generation   0.608 0.400-4.000 (normal range)
Free T4 1.37 0.80-1.80(normal range)

From what I read the FTI is the most important one and that is the low one.
My other readings where out of normal range. Never have I had such a 
bad blood test.


RBC-High
HGB-High
HCT High
MCH-High
Other readings on high end without going beyond normal range.

Other readings
NE ABSOLUTE  8.4   High

SODIUM Low
Calculated Osmolality  Low

I am thinking some of this means my blood is too thick? I am 
thinking the low thyroid is affecting the blood. I know the low 
sodium has something to do with the adrenal problem. My AM Cortisol 
was 10.9 so that was in normal range between 5.0-25.0


Does anyone have any ideas on what this all means?  Hope someone can 
help me with this that understands blood tests better than I do.

Thanks.
Paula

Re: CSUpdate: success interrupted

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

That's strange Indi, because my husband still has 'hives' (red lumps under
the skin all over the place) and this was after using neat DMSO. 
Anti-histamines, calomine lotion etc., don't work, so he has to see the doc
again after the holiday.  This has been weeks now. Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Indi
Date: 27/12/2008 01:28:08
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUpdate: success interrupted
 
Thanks very much for all the suggestions.
 
The hives are still retreating; I'm really not sure what caused them.
For now I'm doing the topical use of the Brooks Bradley mix more carefully;
i.e. shower first, apply, then wait 10 minutes and shower again.
Also, I'm using the nasal spray a bit less often -- like 3 times per day.
Maybe I was just going too fast...
 

Re: CSRectum problem

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Only depending on the individual.  It was disastrous in my case and caused
major blockages.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Clayton Family
Date: 26/12/2008 16:15:29
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRectum problem
 
Fiber is a good idea, imho. I was told by  a doc at the university:
upon awakening, drink one small glass of warm water. 

Re: CSUpdate: success interrupted

[Indi]

I took a lot of diphenhydramine hcl (benedryl), otherwise I don't know 
how long they might have lasted. I am down to just a few small spots now.
It could be that your husband is sensitive to sulfur, or something else the
DMSO carried into his bloodstream. 

I'm sorry he's still suffering, hives are miserable.

indi


On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 06:36:30PM +, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote:
That's strange Indi, because my husband still has 'hives' (red lumps under
the skin all over the place) and this was after using neat DMSO.
Anti-histamines, calomine lotion etc., don't work, so he has to see the
doc again after the holiday.  This has been weeks now. Dee
 
---Original Message---
 
From: [1]Indi
Date: 27/12/2008 01:28:08
To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUpdate: success interrupted
 
Thanks very much for all the suggestions.
 
The hives are still retreating; I'm really not sure what caused them.
For now I'm doing the topical use of the Brooks Bradley mix more
carefully;
i.e. shower first, apply, then wait 10 minutes and shower again.
Also, I'm using the nasal spray a bit less often -- like 3 times per day.
Maybe I was just going too fast...
 
 
 References
 
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CS[FW]Non-healing and Slow-healing skin surface ulcers:CORRECTION

[brooks76009]

   There is a correction required in the text of the earlier message.  The reference to DMSO quantity is incorrect.it should read 25% by volume...not 10%.
My Apologies.   Brooks Bradley.



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 Subject : Non-healing and Slow-healing skin surface ulcers
 Date : Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:49:07 -0500 (EST)
 From : brooks76009 brooks76...@lycos.com
 To : Silver-list@eskimo.com

  I noticed a passing inquiry/observation regarding non-healing skin-surface
ulcers.   A majority of of non-healing skin-surface ulcers have their origin based upon
circulation compromises.presenting especially in diabetics and advanced cardiovascular insults.  During the mid and late 1990s we conducted some very promising
evaluations of these conditions and implementedwhat proved to besome effective protocol addresses.  Most challenging were the non-healing ulcers affecting Type II diabetics.and particularly those presenting on the lower leg extremities and feet.
By far, the most effective protocol proved to be one involving Colloidal Silver,  DMSO and oxygen.  Summarizing the protocol:  The "self-help" version of this experimental protocol consisted, essentially, of a system for applying 100% oxygen as a surrounding atmosphere of the general environmentafter the generous application of a DMSO X Colloidal Silver mixture.  The actual procedure is as follows: (The following procedure was designed for insults presenting in all areas below the knee joint) 1. Performed a preliminary application of undiluted, commercial, 3.5% hydrogen peroxide; allowing approximately 3 minutes or until all foaming action has ceasedfollowed by blotting with clean cotton swab/ball.  2. Generous application of 20 ppm CS (75% by Volume) mixed
with full-strength DMSO (10% by Volume)covering the entire insult area to the point of surface runoff.  Note: Be sure the entire treatment field is completely clear of clothing and other obstructions.  3.  Next, carefully slip a small transparent garbage bag over the lower leg (below the knee), avoiding physical contact with the injured area and carefully gather the top of the bag just below the knee joint. 4. Next, using any convenient source of pure oxygen, with the end of the hose section terminating in a small plastic tubing.insert the tubing well inside the garbage bag and secure the top of the bag with a rubber band.  4. Slowly inflate the bag with O2, until the bag is well filled (it will easily inflate at low pressure).  Note: The actual pressure is not critical, just keep enough pressure applied to prevent the collapse of the garbage bag.  5.  Maintain this arrangement for 15 to 20 minutes.  Actually, we found that the 02 leakage rates to be quite sl!
 ow, usually allowing us to cut off the pressure valve for extended periods (more than 5 minutes), before the inflated bag became sufficiently deflated to require additional pressure.
   This simple protocol was most impressive in the positive results yielded against some of the most intractable slow or non-healing ulcers.some of quite long-standing nature (over 6 months).  In most cases, twice-daily procedures resulted in size-increase stoppages within 5 days and generation of new wound-edge granulation of tissue beginning within 7 to 10 days.  This, many times, in cases where the ulcers had increased from "match-head" size to that of a silver dollarover a period of 6 months plus.  In approximately 80% of these cases, complete healing occurred within 4 to six weeks-usually depending upon the actual physical size of the ulcer.
One of the most gratifying results was one case involving a Type II diabetic who had an ulcer of over 2" in diameter and two years in age...which had, progressively increased in size while, simultaneously resisting ALL conventional treatments employed by the allopathic community. 
Some of the list members may be interested in evaluating this protocol in their experimental researches.  Please be advised that none of our research protocols are intended as direct treatment for ANY existing medical condition.  We DO NOT PRACTICE MEDICINEin any form.  
   Sincerely,   Brooks Bradley/   



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Re: Re: CSMay be MRSA (?)

[Acmeair]

i'm pretty sure it was done topically, but taking some orally couldn't hurt ! jimDec 26, 2008 03:58:30 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
 about 4 years back, i was told of a young guy who had a leg sore that was not healing. mrsa was not as common topic as it is now. his people were talking of amputation at the ucla medical center. we, my friend who knew the kid, got some CS to him, and the infection cleared in about a week. he still has his leg. jimThanks, Jim. Was the CS applied topically or drink it ?Maybe both ?Smitty--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comThe Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSThyroid and blood tests

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi Paula,

IMHO, the best thyroid list is: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine

The moderator is Stephanie Buist (sp?). She has had a full 
thryroidectomy, is studying to become an ND.  She also works with Dr. 
Browstein, who wrote the book: Iodine: Why You Need It Why You Can't 
Live Without It and is very knowledgable and active on the list.  She 
has also compiled a list of Thyroid/Iodine aware practioners around the 
country.  She will also give you an interpretation of your test results.


There is a non-prescription thryroid glandular concentrate available.  
It isn't as concentrated as Armour but you can take more:


http://www.nutri-meds.com/Thyroid_s/33.htm

Iodine and thryoid are very interlinked...I became hypothyroid at the 
end of last May.  I was taking the Nutri-Med glandular and then, after 
much research, began taking high dosage iodine on August 7th (in the 
form of Iodoral tablets, also non-prescription).  Within a couple of 
weeks I didn't need the glandular support.  This probably won't be the 
case with you, since you have had part of your thyroid removed.


I continue to take 50mgs of Iodoral (equivalent to 8 drops of Lugol's 
Iodine) and am pretty much back to normal.  Have to take another panel 
of tests to see where I am...but I feel good.


The other site you will want to look at (and it is huge) is 
http://www.iodine4health.com


Good luck,

Craig

Hi,
I have a big problem. I will try to give you a little background. I 
had 60 percent of my Thyroid removed about 26 years ago and they put 
me on Synthroid. I never felt good. Finally, about a year ago I was 
able to switch to Armour. After a few months my doctor decreased the 
Armour.  I have been taking only 60 (mg?) from 100. Then I had a test 
about 6 months ago. The test looked like I was on the last end before 
it would read below normal but she kept me on that same dose. Well, 
after another 6 months, my last test was pretty awful. But, guess 
what? She is on vacation for 2 weeks and will write no new scripts 
during that time, she says so on her office recording.  In the mean 
time I have been trying to figure out my test. I have come to believe 
I need to get a new doctor and quick. Unfortunately there are none 
that are into natural that I know of. I am worried about my blood 
tests and I believe the hypothyroid is affecting the other readings. I 
also was having problems with adrenals which I thought were much 
improved. I think what happened it is that once my adrenals improved 
the thyroid was able to take-up more of the Armour. Now, it appears 
hypothyroid.



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FW: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the wise ones---

[Jim Meissner yahoo]

 

 

  _  

From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:04 AM
To: 'a...@new.co.za'
Subject: RE: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the wise ones---

 

Hi: I saw my name mentioned?  

 

The purpose of the vinegar is for no reason other than to clean any oxide
off the silver.  The process works just as well using the dry green scotch
bright to clean the rods.  At these extremely low voltages even fingerprints
will interfere.  There is not enough voltage to break through any film.
Also dirty, un-pure distilled water will not work.

 

The advantage of all this trouble is that it makes 2 nanometer particles.
Also the process self-limits 18 or so PPM without any active current control
or mechanical stirring.  

 

I have never sold one on this list but I sell lots of them locally.  People
like them.

 

Jim Meissnerhttp://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator .

 

  _  

From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] 
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 6:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the wise ones---

 

Hi Arnold, 

That is interesting about the vinegar / acetate .  dunno about insecticide. 

 

But what I want to say is that round about 3 volts is what is used in silver
plating for stripping silver off smoothly. 

 

OK, 

Tony 

 

On 26 Dec 2008 at 18:58, Arnold Beland wrote about : 

Subject : Re: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the 

 

 Hi Marshall, 

 

 It is interesting to me that you mention silver acetate. There is a member
on 

 this list selling a generator using two 1.5 volt batteries for a total of 

 three volts as a Power Supply. I have been pondering how this could
possibly 

 work for some time. A careful reading of his instructions for use on his 

 website shows that he instructs the users to clean the rods before using
with 

 vinegar and for them to be wet with the vinegar when they are inserted
into 

 the distilled water. Could this explain the use of only three volts? Isn't


 silver acetate used as an insecticide? 

 

 Best regards, 

 

 Arnold 

 

 

Re: CSUpdate: success interrupted

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Thanks Indi.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Indi
Date: 12/27/08 18:57:32
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSUpdate: success interrupted
 
I took a lot of diphenhydramine hcl (benedryl), otherwise I don't know
how long they might have lasted. I am down to just a few small spots now.
It could be that your husband is sensitive to sulfur, or something else the
DMSO carried into his bloodstream.
 
I'm sorry he's still suffering, hives are miserable.
 
indi
 
 

Re: FW: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the wise ones---

[Arnold Beland]

From your website:

http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator

(Note: 11-21-01) Cleaning with Vinegar and paper towel seems to be enough.
Important: BEFORE brewing the next batch, clean both electrodes with a paper
towel soaked with pure distilled white vinegar to remove oils and oxides
and fingerprints. While still wet with the vinegar, insert the generator
into the distilled water in the Mason jar.


On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Jim Meissner yahoo
jpmeiss...@yahoo.comwrote:




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 *From:* Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:04 AM
 *To:* 'a...@new.co.za'
 *Subject:* RE: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the wise ones---



 Hi: I saw my name mentioned?



 The purpose of the vinegar is for no reason other than to clean any oxide
 off the silver.  The process works just as well using the dry green scotch
 bright to clean the rods.  At these extremely low voltages even fingerprints
 will interfere.  There is not enough voltage to break through any film.
 Also dirty, un-pure distilled water will not work.



 The advantage of all this trouble is that it makes 2 nanometer particles.
 Also the process self-limits 18 or so PPM without any active current control
 or mechanical stirring.



 I have never sold one on this list but I sell lots of them locally.  People
 like them.



 Jim Meissnerhttp://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator .


  --

 *From:* Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za]
 *Sent:* Saturday, December 27, 2008 6:01 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the wise ones---



 Hi Arnold,

 That is interesting about the vinegar / acetate .  dunno about insecticide.



 But what I want to say is that round about 3 volts is what is used in
 silver plating for stripping silver off smoothly.



 OK,

 Tony



 On 26 Dec 2008 at 18:58, Arnold Beland wrote about :

 Subject : Re: CS(LL) Hi,A silver ?? for the



  Hi Marshall,

 

  It is interesting to me that you mention silver acetate. There is a
 member on

  this list selling a generator using two 1.5 volt batteries for a total of

  three volts as a Power Supply. I have been pondering how this could
 possibly

  work for some time. A careful reading of his instructions for use on his

  website shows that he instructs the users to clean the rods before using
 with

  vinegar and for them to be wet with the vinegar when they are inserted
 into

  the distilled water. Could this explain the use of only three volts?
 Isn't

  silver acetate used as an insecticide?

 

  Best regards,

 

  Arnold

 

CSMMS help please

[Betty Shelly]

I realize this subject has been discussed previously, but didn't think it 
applied to me at the time, so didn't save those posts.  My daughter has MS and 
recently saw a Naturopath who prescribed CLO2 which is 7% sodium chlorite.  She 
is to start out with 3 drops in 12 oz of purified water 3x's a day for 21 days; 
 stop for 10 days then resume at 6 drops in 12 oz of purified water 3x's a day 
for another 21 days, stop for 10 days, then repeat the 6 drops procedure.  She 
has tried the Nancy Delise protocol for MS using cs, but without results a few 
years ago.  She has changed her diet and seems to be improving.  The Naturopath 
says she has parasites and/or some toxic chemicals in her blood (based on an 
electronic microscope examination of her blood).  Any information the list can 
give on sodium chlorite as to its benefits or could she have any harmful 
reactions from it?  

Thank you, Betty

Re: CSMMS help please

[Clayton Family]

This was posted here a few days ago-

 http://mmsmiracle.com/

It is important to read Humble's books for important info on this 
strong stuff. Not to be taken lightly, it is not a supplement.


k.

On Dec 27, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Betty Shelly wrote:

I realize this subject has been discussed previously, but didn't think 
it applied to me at the time, so didn't save those posts.  My daughter 
has MS and recently saw a Naturopath who prescribed CLO2 which is 7% 
sodium chlorite.  She is to start out with 3 drops in 12 oz of 
purified water 3x's a day for 21 days;  stop for 10 days then resume 
at 6 drops in 12 oz of purified water 3x's a day for another 21 days, 
stop for 10 days, then repeat the 6 drops procedure.  She has tried 
the Nancy Delise protocol for MS using cs, but without results a few 
years ago.  She has changed her diet and seems to be improving.  The 
Naturopath says she has parasites and/or some toxic chemicals in her 
blood (based on an electronic microscope examination of her blood).  
Any information the list can give on sodium chlorite as to its 
benefits or could she have any harmful reactions from it? 

 
Thank you, Betty


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Re: CSMMS help please

[Dan Nave]

This is quite a small dose and a conservative protocol.

(Jim Humble's ClO2 is 28% and he recommends going up to 15 drops twice a day
for a week.  This includes ramping up to this level over an indefinite
period of time.  This high dose for such a long period of time, (including
ramp-up) which could take months, is probably irresponsible.  One must make
sure that the antioxidants are not being depleted, otherwise you will have
problems.)

I wouldn't have any particular qualms about what the Naturopath is
recommending.  It is quite a small dose and a conservative protocol.  Plus,
you are doing it under supervision.

Dan

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Betty Shelly pigeon2...@suddenlink.netwrote:

  I realize this subject has been discussed previously, but didn't think it
 applied to me at the time, so didn't save those posts.  My daughter has MS
 and recently saw a Naturopath who prescribed CLO2 which is 7% sodium
 chlorite.  She is to start out with 3 drops in 12 oz of purified water 3x's
 a day for 21 days;  stop for 10 days then resume at 6 drops in 12 oz of
 purified water 3x's a day for another 21 days, stop for 10 days, then repeat
 the 6 drops procedure.  She has tried the Nancy Delise protocol for MS using
 cs, but without results a few years ago.  She has changed her diet and seems
 to be improving.  The Naturopath says she has parasites and/or some toxic
 chemicals in her blood (based on an electronic microscope examination of her
 blood).  Any information the list can give on sodium chlorite as to its
 benefits or could she have any harmful reactions from it?

 Thank you, Betty

Re: CSThyroid and blood tests

[Rowena]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

There is a lot of info on this site in the files, and a very busy discussion 
group.  They are also into Armour and they might know the Drs in your area who 
are of the calibre you would be willing to consult.
Rowena