Re: CS>Thieves ....

[JuGargo]

Thanks Smitty !  Like I said before, this list is wonderful !  SO  many 
knowledgeable people who are so willing to share !  Never change list  !
 
Judy
 
 
In a message dated 4/30/2009 8:27:21 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
papad...@gmail.com writes:

>  I've used Thieves for sore throats and it has done wonders!!  My
>  chiropractor told me to open my mouth wide and drop Thieves as far down  
the
> throat as you can get it.  At this point, it will begin to  burn like 
crazy.
> His words," Don't swallow"  ... let it do its  work and in 30 seconds to a
> minute you can then swallow.  It's  been pretty hard for me to hold it in 
my
> mouth for that long but I  hold it as long as possible  .. after I can't 
hold
> it any longer,  then I swallow.  By this time my eyes and mouth are 
watering
> like  crazy but sure does get rid of my sore throat and/or works on 
swollen
>  glands too !
>
>Judy

Here's a recipe for Four Thieves  Vinegar =
http://tinyurl.com/c78tsj

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Re: CS>Thieves ....

[Smitty]

> I've used Thieves for sore throats and it has done wonders!!  My
> chiropractor told me to open my mouth wide and drop Thieves as far down the
> throat as you can get it.  At this point, it will begin to burn like crazy.
> His words," Don't swallow"  ... let it do its work and in 30 seconds to a
> minute you can then swallow.  It's been pretty hard for me to hold it in my
> mouth for that long but I hold it as long as possible  .. after I can't hold
> it any longer, then I swallow.  By this time my eyes and mouth are watering
> like crazy but sure does get rid of my sore throat and/or works on swollen
> glands too !
>
>Judy

Here's a recipe for Four Thieves Vinegar =
http://tinyurl.com/c78tsj

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Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu

[Kathy]

No he doesn't have "Theives" as it is a blend which YLEO named that. Another 
company named their blend "Ancient Robbers"  
http://ancientwisdomessentialoils.com/
You can buy the oils singular and mix your own. I guess at the amounts of each 
one but as long as they are all there it is OK.
You can't really mess it up. It may cost a bit more to buy all the singles but 
you will also get more:) 
Hope this helps.
Clove
Lemon
Cinnamon
Eucalyptus Radiata
Rosemary
  - Original Message - 
  From: juga...@aol.com 
  To: vano...@mrtc.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:37 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu


  Thank you Kathy  ... the other link worked  ... BUT, I don't find Thieves 
anywhere  .. is it hiding?  :)

  Judy

  In a message dated 4/30/2009 7:15:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
vano...@mrtc.com writes:
http://www.av-at.com
Try this - I copied the other -don't know why it didn't work. Sorry 
Kathy
  - Original Message - 
  From: juga...@aol.com 
  To: vano...@mrtc.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:06 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu


  Kathy,

  I can't get your link to work

  Judy

  In a message dated 4/30/2009 7:05:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
vano...@mrtc.com writes:
Do not think that you have to have "Theives" - it is easily duplicated 
at a fraction of the cost. Best EO prices and quality 
http://www.av-at.com/prices.html
Do not allow yourself to be ripped off by the YLEO gang of THEIVES.
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Re: CS>CS and Avian flu

[sol]

Leslie wrote:
In your opinion do you believe taking CS to combat the flu they are warning about would be the most beneficial thing to do? If so, how much do you think would take care of it? 
  
I intend to keep up my practice of misting eyes with CS, inhaling as 
much as possible at the same time, and misting hands as well. With all 
flus and colds I believe the best way to use CS is as prevention, and 
misting is how I use it for that. My experience with catching a cold 
when I stopped misting, is that CS works much better to prevent the 
infection in the first place than it does after the infection has set up 
house.

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Re: CS>CS and Avian flu

[sol]

Dan Nave wrote:

I can't rely on his analysis when he states that CS doesn't affect
"beneficial" micro-organisms.
  

Exactly.
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Re: CS>Silver on Alex Jones Show

[Hanneke]

 a quick addition to your post:
Most of the interviews are available after each show as an mp3 
download via: http://www.thealexjonesshow.com/


At 11:49 PM 30/04/2009, you wrote:
Normally I would not be posting something like this, especially not 
if it'z not in the Off-Topic forum, but we are treading so heavily 
on thin-ice here, and everybody needs to gain as much knowledge and 
information as they can and to remain informed 24/7.  That being 
said, the best informative source that will keep you up to date is 
the Alex Jones Show, which you may or may not have heard of by 
now.  Last night their web-site was being attacked by government 
entities, and they could see it on their graphs because once they 
would find which port the site operated it, they just fired an 
ass-load of information at their servers to over-load and then crash 
them down, and I did notice that their web-sites had gone down but I 
had no idea why until they said it on-air during their live nightly 
broadcast.  During the live-broadcasting, they were hit once again, 
and each time they were hit, it wasn't just affecting their 
web-sites, but it was affecting entire servers and communities 
because they were hitting their area with as much information as 
possible, just terrabytes upon terrabytes, because the government 
knows how effective and influential their shows really are.


Last night they were citing internal memos that they had be given 
from very reliable internal-resources of the CDC and/or WHO, and 
they said that we were at the Pandemic Alert Level 6 already but to 
not tell the public just yet.  I mean Level 5, which we have 
officially been at since yesterday, is martial-law control, and 
Level 6 is just complete control of the world by the United 
Nations.  They are preparing to innocculate all of us mandatorily 
with their vaccines that probably contain the real deadly viruses 
which will be the thing to try to exterminate 80 - 90% of the 
world'z population, which the U.N. has stated in their own 
documents, as well as State Department Memorandum 200, and other 
very official documents and statements, that they need to 
exterminate most of the population of this world because they cannot 
control a population of 7 billion people.  Just liek on the Georgia 
GuideStones located in Elberton, Georgia, they need to maintain 
humanity at below 500 million to be in perpetual balance with nature.


As far as keeping informed, everybody needs to be listening to the 
Alex Jones Show during his non-video portion of his broadcast, and 
then watching him live during the video-trasmission part of his 
broadcast.  Sometimes they  change it up if something is really very 
important, but generally-speaking the Alex Jones Show goes audio 
from 11:00 AM Central Time - 1:00 PM CST, and the video from 1:00 PM 
CST - 3:00 PM CST.  The InfoWarrior with Jason Bermas goes video 
from 9:00 PM CST - 12:00 AM CST.  Everybody should be watching as 
much of both of these programmings as possible.  They use their 
sources to gather the internal-information for many agencies and 
they are probably the very most informative source you could ever 
find in any medium, and they do admitt when they discover that 
something they reported on is not correct or is not accurate.


Alex Jones starts his show with live audio-only at 
http://www.infowars.com/32k.m3u
Alex Jones continues his show with live-video, open this up into 
Windows Media Player 
http://freespeech-pubtv.wm.llnwd.net/freespeech_pubtv 

Don't forget the InfoWarrior with Jason Bermas at night, he is a 
young man and is very dedicating to fighting for our freedom, 
liberty, and our prosperity.


Everybody should be doing this every single day because it could 
very well save your life.  They discuss everything from health to 
the New World Order to government cover-ups to anything and 
everything you could ever possibly think of.  They did even talk 
about Silver on the show lately as a way to combat this Swine-Flu.


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Fw: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu

[Kathy]

- Original Message - 
From: Kathy 
To: juga...@aol.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu


http://www.av-at.com
Try this - I copied the other -don't know why it didn't work. Sorry 
Kathy
  - Original Message - 
  From: juga...@aol.com 
  To: vano...@mrtc.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:06 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu


  Kathy,

  I can't get your link to work

  Judy

  In a message dated 4/30/2009 7:05:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
vano...@mrtc.com writes:
Do not think that you have to have "Theives" - it is easily duplicated at a 
fraction of the cost. Best EO prices and quality 
http://www.av-at.com/prices.html
Do not allow yourself to be ripped off by the YLEO gang of THEIVES.
Kathy



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CS>Thieves ....

[JuGargo]

I've used Thieves for sore throats and it has done wonders!!  My  
chiropractor told me to open my mouth wide and drop Thieves as far down the  
throat 
as you can get it.  At this point, it will begin to burn like  crazy.  His 
words," Don't swallow"  ... let it do its work and in 30  seconds to a minute 
you can then swallow.  It's been pretty hard for me to  hold it in my mouth 
for that long but I hold it as long as possible  ..  after I can't hold it 
any longer, then I swallow.  By this time my eyes and  mouth are watering 
like crazy but sure does get rid of my sore throat and/or  works on swollen 
glands too !
 
Judy
 
 
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Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu

[Kathy]

Do not think that you have to have "Theives" - it is easily duplicated at a 
fraction of the cost. Best EO prices and quality 
http://www.av-at.com/prices.html
Do not allow yourself to be ripped off by the YLEO gang of THEIVES.
Kathy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:32 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu


  I bought a bottle of Thieves last year from the same companty and I have used 
it during the flu and it has not seemed to do much, I am sorry to report.
  Paula
- Original Message - 
From: zzekel...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu


I Thought this was pretty interesting..My son just told me about it this 
morning.  There are products called "Thieves"--In the far past in France during 
the "Black  Plague" There were 4 thieves that  covered their bodies with 
cloves, rosemary & other aromaties and robbed the plague victims. When they 
were caught they were offered a lighter sentence in exchange for their secret 
recipe.  It has been tested at a university & has cleansing abilities, immune 
System support & good health. The Thieves you can get today have---Clove, 
Cinnamon bark, Lemon, & Eucalyptus radiata. { My son has just graduated from 
college with degrees in Acupuncture & Chinese Herbal Medicine. }  He is getting 
some Thieves for me from a site, youngliving.com   Maybe a mix of this & CS/EIS 
will ward off everything but the bees { a little DMSO added might even do that} 
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Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu

[Paula Perry]

I bought a bottle of Thieves last year from the same companty and I have used 
it during the flu and it has not seemed to do much, I am sorry to report.
Paula
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:40 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu


  I Thought this was pretty interesting..My son just told me about it this 
morning.  There are products called "Thieves"--In the far past in France during 
the "Black  Plague" There were 4 thieves that  covered their bodies with 
cloves, rosemary & other aromaties and robbed the plague victims. When they 
were caught they were offered a lighter sentence in exchange for their secret 
recipe.  It has been tested at a university & has cleansing abilities, immune 
System support & good health. The Thieves you can get today have---Clove, 
Cinnamon bark, Lemon, & Eucalyptus radiata. { My son has just graduated from 
college with degrees in Acupuncture & Chinese Herbal Medicine. }  He is getting 
some Thieves for me from a site, youngliving.com   Maybe a mix of this & CS/EIS 
will ward off everything but the bees { a little DMSO added might even do that} 
 :-)  Lois


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Re: CS>Collodial Silver and Dry Eye Disease

[ZZekelink]

Hi JD, I have "dry eye" . Have had it for  several years. My left eye runs 
like crazy when I'm out in the cold hiking in  the woods. { Don't know why 
they call it "dry eye when it is running wet ??? } I  put silver in my eye 
and it will be fine for awhile but does come back and I put  the silver in 
again...I haven't had it go away totally yet but it seems the time  between I 
have to use the silver and when it returns is getting longer. I am  wondering 
if in time it will totally take care of it.  I would have no  problem 
putting it in my child's eye if they needed it..I wish I had known about  it 
years ago when the kids & I all had pink-eye. It took ages and 2 Dr.  visits to 
eliminate it. I have read that CE/EIS will cure pink-eye in about 2  hrs.  
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Re: CS>re the NCAM site (Chelated silver question)

[Douglas Haack]

Silver Listers,

The NCAM site -- can I suggest is an officially run disinformation site -- take 
the following -- their assertion: 

3. Do colloidal silver products work?

Reviews in the scientific literature on colloidal silver products have 
concluded that

2-5: Silver has no known function in the body.

This may be a semantic problem and a sly way of say nothing! 

--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Marshall Dudley  wrote:

> From: Marshall Dudley 
> Subject: Re: CS>Chelated Silver
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:06 PM
> Dianne France wrote:
> > I copied the following from a web site.  There
> has been a lot about chelated silver in our magazines and
> wanted to know how to make it if it can be made at
> home?  Has
> > anyone had any experience making Chelated
> Silver?  Does it have draw backs that our cs doesn't?
> > Dianne
> >   *Chelated Silver*™ is silver ions
> *in solution*. It is vastly different from the silver-based
> dietary supplement products known as *colloidal silver*
> ,
> which is silver *in suspension*. In colloidal silver, finely
> divided particles of elemental silver are randomly floating
> in suspension in water and are not evenly dispersed. In
> CHELATED SILVER™, ions of pure, crystallized silver
> nitrate are chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions, and are
> therefore evenly dispersed throughout the solution. _This
> bonding in solution considerably enhances Chelated
> Silver™'s antimicrobal action and persistance_ (killing
> power over time).
> > 
> > In colloidal suspensions, minute silver particles of
> elemental silver are suspended or randomly floating in
> water, typically at a level of *10-50 parts per million*.
> Chelation occurs when a metal ion forms a heterocyclic bond
> with a bidentate ligand. Examples of bidentate ligands are
> carbonate and oxalate ions and ethylenediamine. As a general
> rule, five- or six-member lingands are favored. Chelated
> Silver™ ions are chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions and
> are evenly dispersed throughout the solution. This
> concentrated and uniform dispersal of Chelated Silver™
> ions (typically at a level of *300 to 400 parts per
> million*) throughout the solution considerably enhances
> their antimicrobial action, persistence and effectiveness.
> > 
> > *Chelated Silver*™ is highly effective in blocking
> the respiration of microorganisms causing them to expire.
> Additionally,  scientific testing is in progress to
> study the effectiveness of Chelated Silver™ in
> interdicting anaerobic bacteria (bacteria that exists in the
> absence of oxygen).
> > 
> They seem to be contradicting themselves here.  They
> say that colloidal silver is less effective than their
> chelated silver, yet they indicate that their chelated needs
> to 10 to 50 times as strong as colloidal to be effective.
> Sounds like doublespeak to me.
> 
> Marshall
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Re: CS>Chelated Silver

[Marshall Dudley]

Dianne France wrote:
I copied the following from a web site.  There has been a lot about 
chelated silver in our magazines and wanted to know how to make it if 
it can be made at home?  Has
anyone had any experience making Chelated Silver?  Does it have draw 
backs that our cs doesn't?

Dianne
 
 
*Chelated Silver*™ is silver ions *in solution*. It is vastly 
different from the silver-based dietary supplement products known as 
*colloidal silver* , which is 
silver *in suspension*. In colloidal silver, finely divided particles 
of elemental silver are randomly floating in suspension in water and 
are not evenly dispersed. In CHELATED SILVER™, ions of pure, 
crystallized silver nitrate are chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions, 
and are therefore evenly dispersed throughout the solution. _This 
bonding in solution considerably enhances Chelated Silver™'s 
antimicrobal action and persistance_ (killing power over time).


In colloidal suspensions, minute silver particles of elemental silver 
are suspended or randomly floating in water, typically at a level of 
*10-50 parts per million*. Chelation occurs when a metal ion forms a 
heterocyclic bond with a bidentate ligand. Examples of bidentate 
ligands are carbonate and oxalate ions and ethylenediamine. As a 
general rule, five- or six-member lingands are favored. Chelated 
Silver™ ions are chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions and are evenly 
dispersed throughout the solution. This concentrated and uniform 
dispersal of Chelated Silver™ ions (typically at a level of *300 to 
400 parts per million*) throughout the solution considerably enhances 
their antimicrobial action, persistence and effectiveness.


*Chelated Silver*™ is highly effective in blocking the respiration of 
microorganisms causing them to expire. Additionally,  scientific 
testing is in progress to study the effectiveness of Chelated Silver™ 
in interdicting anaerobic bacteria (bacteria that exists in the 
absence of oxygen).


They seem to be contradicting themselves here.  They say that colloidal 
silver is less effective than their chelated silver, yet they indicate 
that their chelated needs to 10 to 50 times as strong as colloidal to be 
effective. Sounds like doublespeak to me.


Marshall


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Re: CS>bird flu survival guide

[Brickeyk]

My survival guide would be 2/1 Gatorade and CS. Even though Gatorade is  
now made with sucrose. Then I would try CS with peppermint oil. I would  brush 
my teeth with CS/DMSO/Oil of Oregano and swallow the mix. I would try my  
big ultra-sonic humidifier where I taped on a CPAP hose to place the mist 
under  my nose. It holds several quarts of CS. I may also try some activated 
MMS. Then  I would use my GB4000 zapper where it already contains a bunch of 
flu programmed  frequencies. Rife lists says to use the flu-A program. I 
would also use the  Beck zapper. I would flush my sinus with salt, Baking soda, 
CS, DMSO, and Oil of  Oregano.
 
I wonder if any juice would also help. I just started making the cancer  
killer juice using a champion juicer and hand press. Before I used the Jack La 
 Lanne juicer. The hand press cost about $350.
 
I would also use my re-bounder as it can triple my immune system in  
minutes.
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CS>Flu commentary

[Craig Chamberlin]

From an unusual source but interesting:

http://tinyurl.com/d3wzar

Craig


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RE: CS>Chelated Silver

[Dianne France]

Steve,

I don't think I still have your email and if you would resend it to me I would 
very much appreciate it.  

Dianne
 


Subject: RE: CS>Chelated Silver
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:22:55 -0500
From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com




Dianne, 
I just recently posted on silver citrate and how to make it. Silver citrateis a 
form of chelated silver. See the definition of chelate: 
http://www.answers.com/topic/chelate.

"The biological significance of chelates is demonstrated by the large number of 
biologically important compounds that are either metal chelates or chelating 
agents. Included in this group are the alpha amino acids, peptides, proteins, 
enzymes, porphyrins (such as hemoglobin), corrins (such as vitamin B12), 
catechols, hydroxypolycarboxylic acids (such as citric acid), ascorbic acid 
(vitamin C), polyphosphates, nucleosides and other genetic compounds, pyridoxal 
phosphate (vitamin B6), and sugars."
Silver citrate is silver chelated with citric acid. I have made it in 400 and 
600 ppm concentrations and use it internally well as externally. there is more 
info in my recent post. If you no longer have it I can resend it.
The product you are asking about appears to be the compound in this patent: 
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7311927.html. 
>From the patent:
"In recent decades, extensive research has demonstrated that chelated silver is 
an active antimicrobial. The antimicrobial action reportedly occurs by blocking 
the respiration of microorganisms. Chelated silver is different from colloidal 
silver. Chelated means in solution, whereas colloidal means in suspension. In 
colloidal suspensions, minute silver particles are suspended or floating in an 
aqueous solution, and are not evenly dispersed throughout the liquid. Chelated 
solutions occur when a metal ion forms a heterocyclic ring with a bidentate 
ligand. Examples of bidentate ligands are carbonate and oxalate ions and 
ethylenediamine. As a general rule, five- or six-membered rings are favored. 
Because chelated silver ions are chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions, they 
are evenly dispersed throughout the solution. The even dispersal of chelated 
silver ions throughout the solution considerably enhances their antimicrobial 
action and effectiveness over time." ...
"In order to provide an aqueous environment that is conducive to the formation 
of chelated complexes between silver ion and EDTA or polypectate, a solution 
containing silver nitrate and ammonia (in the form of amonium hydroxide) is 
first formulated, after which EDTA and/or polypectate are introduced into the 
solution. A number of complex ions and neutral molecules are known to coexist 
in a state of equilibrium within the mixture of silver nitrate and ammonia. As 
both EDTA and polypectate have a greater affinity for the silver ions than do 
the ammonium and hydroxide ions, the formation of chelated complexes with the 
former two compounds is facilitated by the prior addition of ammonia to the 
silver nitrate."
 
Look familiar?
The patent is for external antimicrobial applications and does not address 
internal use. I have been aware of EDTA and have intended to look more into 
it's use with silver but it is still on my to-do list. Personally, I would pass 
on the product and use silver citrate.
 - Steve N
 
 

Re: CS>bird flu survival guide

[Sam L.]

I Kathryn.

A good article on cytokine storm.

http://www.med-owl.com/health/H5N1-Virus-Therapy.html

another good link

http://www.cytokinestorm.com/


Sam L


On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Clayton Family wrote:

> The link I posted yesterday discusses the differences in remedies for a
> "normal" flu vs the remedies for a 1918 like flu. The bird flu in China
> seemed to preferentially take out the young healthy adults, according to
> some. The discussion is of interest now because of the new flu. I have
> reported this before, but not in any detail:  when I had the flu this last
> Feb, I took my eis for it, and it did not seem to be helping enough, so I
> poured myself a rather large glass (8-10oz?) and drank it all at once. In a
> few minutes, I was in bed. It made it worse, much worse. In contrast to when
> I took smaller amounts, it did not seem to help, but also didn't seem to
> hurt. This open the question again of whether eis stimulates the immune
> system.
>
> In my mind, it seems like either the large amount of eis either killed off
> a large number of toxic pathogens, overwhelming my body's ability to filter
> them out (which has been known to flatten me), or it stimulated my immune
> system, causing the flu bug to perhaps initiate a cytokine storm, and
> flatten me.
>
> Dr Shoemaker has worked for a long time with helping people with toxin
> related illnesses, and he discusses at some length the cytokine storm effect
> as it relates to healing or lack of, in those with biotoxin-mediated
> illnesses. He uses a cholesterol drug to sop up the toxins from the GI
> tract, others use activated charcoal, or clays, for a similar effect.
>
> Would that help with the Flu?   It would certainly help contain diarhea,
> and might have the added benefit of reducing the aches and pains related to
> the toxins, if there were any.
>
> I got this link from a medical blog site:
>
> http://www.bird-flu-influenza.com/relenza-tamiflu-alternatives-folk-
> medicines-antivirals.htm
>
> Anybody have any thoughts on this?  I suppose we all have the options of
> trying whatever we have in our arsenals. I am considering updating mine
> along the lines of does it increase or decrease cytokines.
>
> Best WIshes,Kathryn
>
> Scientists have shown that the moon is moving away at a tiny yet
>  measurable distance from the earth every year. If you do the math,
> you can calculate that 85 million years ago the moon was orbiting the
> earth at a distance of about 35 feet from the earth's surface! This
> would explain the death of the dinosaurs...
>  the tallest ones, anyway.
>
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Re: CS>My best effort at making CS

[Indi]

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 01:41:45PM -0400, Indi wrote:
> 100 microamps per
>

Oh, one more thing --  you meant milliamps, didn't you?

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Re: CS>My best effort at making CS

[Indi]

Darn, it happened again that my reply went firect rather than to the list.
Sorry, Arnold. Here it is for the list:

Thanks for putting this online.

I was kind of hoping someone more knowledgeable would comment first, but
I do have two questions -- how did you determine that 100 microamps per
square inch of surface area was optimum? And do you think that the people
+who say it takes a lot less time to make CS/EIS are mistaken?

My experience (using HVAC "cone" method) mirrors yours on the time factor,
even though I often see people say they make it much more quickly.
I had attributed it to the difference between HVAC and LVDC. Was I mistaken?

Thanks,
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 04:10:10PM -0700, Arnold Beland wrote:
>This was too long to post to the silver list so here is the link:
> 
>[1]http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=371376
> 
>Comments are welcome.
> 
> References
> 
>Visible links
>1. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=371376

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CS>bird flu survival guide

[Clayton Family]

The link I posted yesterday discusses the differences in remedies for a  
"normal" flu vs the remedies for a 1918 like flu. The bird flu in China  
seemed to preferentially take out the young healthy adults, according  
to some. The discussion is of interest now because of the new flu. I  
have reported this before, but not in any detail:  when I had the flu  
this last Feb, I took my eis for it, and it did not seem to be helping  
enough, so I poured myself a rather large glass (8-10oz?) and drank it  
all at once. In a few minutes, I was in bed. It made it worse, much  
worse. In contrast to when I took smaller amounts, it did not seem to  
help, but also didn't seem to hurt. This open the question again of  
whether eis stimulates the immune system.


In my mind, it seems like either the large amount of eis either killed  
off a large number of toxic pathogens, overwhelming my body's ability  
to filter them out (which has been known to flatten me), or it  
stimulated my immune system, causing the flu bug to perhaps initiate a  
cytokine storm, and flatten me.


Dr Shoemaker has worked for a long time with helping people with toxin  
related illnesses, and he discusses at some length the cytokine storm  
effect as it relates to healing or lack of, in those with  
biotoxin-mediated illnesses. He uses a cholesterol drug to sop up the  
toxins from the GI tract, others use activated charcoal, or clays, for  
a similar effect.


Would that help with the Flu?   It would certainly help contain  
diarhea, and might have the added benefit of reducing the aches and  
pains related to the toxins, if there were any.


I got this link from a medical blog site:

http://www.bird-flu-influenza.com/relenza-tamiflu-alternatives-folk- 
medicines-antivirals.htm


Anybody have any thoughts on this?  I suppose we all have the options  
of trying whatever we have in our arsenals. I am considering updating  
mine along the lines of does it increase or decrease cytokines.


Best WIshes,Kathryn

Scientists have shown that the moon is moving away at a tiny yet
 measurable distance from the earth every year. If you do the math,
you can calculate that 85 million years ago the moon was orbiting the
earth at a distance of about 35 feet from the earth's surface! This
would explain the death of the dinosaurs...
 the tallest ones, anyway.


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RE: CS>FW: Swine flu prevention and treatment

[Norton, Steve]

I just tried and had no problem. I will PM you the file.
 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>FW: Swine flu prevention and treatment

perhaps a note to the website- I tried twice to get the file, and both times it 
said it was damaged and could not be opened.


On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Dianne France wrote:

>  I received the following post from the lady that does our biomeredian 
> testing.  Thought some might be interested in looking at the web site.
>  Dianne
>
>  
>  
> Hello My Dear Family, Friends, and Clients,
>  
> I just finished a Webseminar with my favorite homeopathic supplier 
> Deseret Biologicals.
> I have attached the link to the Swine Flu prevention and treatment.
> http://www.desbio.com/assets/docs/swine_flu.pdf
> I have had quite a few family, friends, and clients contact me with 
> many questions regarding this information.


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Re: CS>FW: Swine flu prevention and treatment

[Clayton Family]

perhaps a note to the website- I tried twice to get the file, and both 
times it said it was damaged and could not be opened.



On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Dianne France wrote:

 I received the following post from the lady that does our biomeredian 
testing.  Thought some might be interested in looking at the web site.

 Dianne

 
 
Hello My Dear Family, Friends, and Clients,
 
I just finished a Webseminar with my favorite homeopathic supplier 
Deseret Biologicals.

I have attached the link to the Swine Flu prevention and treatment.
http://www.desbio.com/assets/docs/swine_flu.pdf
I have had quite a few family, friends, and clients contact me with 
many questions regarding this information.



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CS>Subject Redacted

[Norton, Steve]

Bob Banover et al,
Just to stop all additional responses to a comment I made but cannot
repeat, I would normally reply that I was joking. But a response is not
allowed. Sorry.
 - Steve N

Re: CS>PETA killings

[nupa_n...@hotmail.com]

Also in some beef chicken and pork food they reprocess fecal matter in the food 
that they give these animals.

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Bob Banever  wrote:


From: Bob Banever 
Subject: Re: CS>PETA killings
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 9:49 PM





Steve,
 
 You're kidding I hope.  Chinese pet food is probably tainted with alot 
more than the sodium pentathol they use to euthanize animals.  Melamine comes 
to mind and I'm sure there's alot more.  Euthanized animals are NOT put into US 
pet food just read the ingredients.  Unless killing chickens, cows, buffalo 
and fish are considered euthanizing them.  I've never read an ingredient of dog 
or cat on a pet food can.
 
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: CS>PETA killings


That is why I insist on getting all my pet's food from China. 



From: vicki hood [mailto:mutt...@isp.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>PETA killings



See nathanwinograd.com/?p=907   You did know euthanized animals go to 
rendering--are then processed into dog food, cosmetics etc.  The Euthanol in 
these bodies comes right back to you and your live pets.  


  

RE: CS>Chelated Silver

[Norton, Steve]

Dianne,
My last response was short because I wanted to be under the message size
limit. Just to give you more info on silver chelates in general, here is
a study on the effectiveness of silver chelation with glutamic and
tartaric acids:
http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/54/2/546
I have no data on the safety of ingesting of these chelates although my
guess is that they are safe.
 
Here is a study on the effectiveness of silver citrate: 

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2590638
 :

 

Relative to the compound below and the patent I referenced in my
previous response, you can indeed make it. The patent tells you how. If
it were me, I would only consider the EDTA chelate because I know EDTA
it is safe to take internally. I do not know about the other compound.
However, there is one problem with EDTA. EDTA is a fairly large molecule
and because of this only about 10 percent of any EDTA taken orally
actually passes through the intestinal wall and into the bloodstream. I
would expect a silver/EDTA chelate to be slightly larger and that may
yet reduce the bioavailability of the chelate. If I were to make it, I
would consider modifying the method to use another source of silver ions
such as EIS or silver oxide.

 

I hope Marshall is back on the list and he or Ode comment.

 

 - Steve N

 



From: Dianne France [mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:04 AM
To: silver-list
Subject: CS>Chelated Silver


I copied the following from a web site.  There has been a lot about
chelated silver in our magazines and wanted to know how to make it if it
can be made at home?  Has
anyone had any experience making Chelated Silver?  Does it have draw
backs that our cs doesn't?
Dianne
 
 
Chelated Silver(tm) is silver ions in solution. It is vastly different
from the silver-based dietary supplement products known as colloidal
silver  , which is silver in
suspension. In colloidal silver, finely divided particles of elemental
silver are randomly floating in suspension in water and are not evenly
dispersed. In CHELATED SILVER(tm), ions of pure, crystallized silver
nitrate are chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions, and are therefore
evenly dispersed throughout the solution. This bonding in solution
considerably enhances Chelated Silver(tm)'s antimicrobal action and
persistance (killing power over time).

In colloidal suspensions, minute silver particles of elemental silver
are suspended or randomly floating in water, typically at a level of
10-50 parts per million. Chelation occurs when a metal ion forms a
heterocyclic bond with a bidentate ligand. Examples of bidentate ligands
are carbonate and oxalate ions and ethylenediamine. As a general rule,
five- or six-member lingands are favored. Chelated Silver(tm) ions are
chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions and are evenly dispersed
throughout the solution. This concentrated and uniform dispersal of
Chelated Silver(tm) ions (typically at a level of 300 to 400 parts per
million) throughout the solution considerably enhances their
antimicrobial action, persistence and effectiveness.

Chelated Silver(tm) is highly effective in blocking the respiration of
microorganisms causing them to expire. Additionally,  scientific testing
is in progress to study the effectiveness of Chelated Silver(tm) in
interdicting anaerobic bacteria (bacteria that exists in the absence of
oxygen). 

CS>Ultrasonic pond foggers

[Dan Nave]

Someone should get some of these and report on how well they work.

Dan

http://www.mainlandmart.com/foggers.html  $29.95

http://www.mainlandmart.com/foggerwholesales.html  $15 each, case of 12

http://www.pondusa.com/fogger.htm  $34.98

http://www.discount-pumps.biz/fountain-pond-foggers.htm  $24.95 –
28.95 with spare disk

(be careful to get the ultrasonic ones...)


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RE: CS>Chelated Silver

[Norton, Steve]

Dianne, 
I just recently posted on silver citrate and how to make it. Silver
citrateis a form of chelated silver. See the definition of chelate:
http://www.answers.com/topic/chelate.
"The biological significance of chelates is demonstrated by the large
number of biologically important compounds that are either metal
chelates or chelating agents. Included in this group are the alpha amino
acids, peptides, proteins, enzymes, porphyrins (such as hemoglobin),
corrins (such as vitamin B12), catechols, hydroxypolycarboxylic acids
(such as citric acid), ascorbic acid (vitamin C), polyphosphates,
nucleosides and other genetic compounds, pyridoxal phosphate (vitamin
B6), and sugars."

Silver citrate is silver chelated with citric acid. I have made it in
400 and 600 ppm concentrations and use it internally well as externally.
there is more info in my recent post. If you no longer have it I can
resend it.

The product you are asking about appears to be the compound in this
patent: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7311927.html. 

>From the patent:

"In recent decades, extensive research has demonstrated that chelated
silver is an active antimicrobial. The antimicrobial action reportedly
occurs by blocking the respiration of microorganisms. Chelated silver is
different from colloidal silver. Chelated means in solution, whereas
colloidal means in suspension. In colloidal suspensions, minute silver
particles are suspended or floating in an aqueous solution, and are not
evenly dispersed throughout the liquid. Chelated solutions occur when a
metal ion forms a heterocyclic ring with a bidentate ligand. Examples of
bidentate ligands are carbonate and oxalate ions and ethylenediamine. As
a general rule, five- or six-membered rings are favored. Because
chelated silver ions are chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions, they are
evenly dispersed throughout the solution. The even dispersal of chelated
silver ions throughout the solution considerably enhances their
antimicrobial action and effectiveness over time." ...

"In order to provide an aqueous environment that is conducive to the
formation of chelated complexes between silver ion and EDTA or
polypectate, a solution containing silver nitrate and ammonia (in the
form of amonium hydroxide) is first formulated, after which EDTA and/or
polypectate are introduced into the solution. A number of complex ions
and neutral molecules are known to coexist in a state of equilibrium
within the mixture of silver nitrate and ammonia. As both EDTA and
polypectate have a greater affinity for the silver ions than do the
ammonium and hydroxide ions, the formation of chelated complexes with
the former two compounds is facilitated by the prior addition of ammonia
to the silver nitrate."

 

Look familiar?

The patent is for external antimicrobial applications and does not
address internal use. I have been aware of EDTA and have intended to
look more into it's use with silver but it is still on my to-do list.
Personally, I would pass on the product and use silver citrate.

 - Steve N

 

 

Re: CS>POV spun out..gone OT

[Indi]

:)

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 08:03:34AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>  The Devil de-vilified is your best friend.
> He's everything you don't want to know.
>
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Re: CS>CS and Avian flu

[Dan Nave]

I can't say for sure if it would affect the flu directly, but it would
certainly keep secondary infections from becoming a problem.

I would take small doses often, say, 1 Tablespoon (1/2 ounce) every 30
minutes or every hour as long as I had symptoms.  I would taper off on
the number of doses as I got better.

Eight ounces at 1/2 ounce per dose would give you 16 doses per day, at
1 hour intervals.  That is not even an excessive amount of CS.

Dan


On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Leslie  wrote:
>
> In your opinion do you believe taking CS to combat the flu they are warning 
> about would be the most beneficial thing to do? If so, how much do you think 
> would take care of it?
>
> --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Dan Nave  wrote:
>
>> From: Dan Nave 
>> Subject: Re: CS>CS and Avian flu
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 10:01 AM
>> I can't rely on his analysis when he
>> states that CS doesn't affect
>> "beneficial" micro-organisms.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Harold MacDonald 
>> wrote:
>> > When the Natural Solutions Foundation shared our
>> analysis of the
>> > weaponization of the Avian Flu with you in 2008, we
>> got thousands of emails
>> > asking us what to do to protect ourselves. What does
>> Dr. Laibow use?.
>> >
>> > We said very clearly that while the weaponized Avian
>> Flu Virus might not
>> > react the way other pathogens did, we predicted that
>> it would be killed by
>> > contact with Nano Silver, a finely divided type of
>> silver which kills all
>> > known disease-causing agents or pathogens and which is
>> sold as a Dietary
>> > Supplement in the US. I was very clear that the Avian
>> Flu organism might or
>> > might not respond the same way. As it happened, later
>> information let us
>> > know that we were correct: Nano silver DOES, indeed,
>> kill the weaponized
>> > Avian Flu virus as it kills all known micro-organisms
>> except beneficial
>> > ones. The US government says that people marketing
>> silver products are not
>> > allowed to tell you this truthful information.
>> >
>> > We told you, within our private, opt-in expressive
>> association, of the truth
>> > as we see it. To receive information like this is
>> exactly why you opted into
>> > our Health Freedom Action eAlert -
>> > http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?page_id=187. Please be
>> assured, so long as
>> > an open and free Internet exists, we will speak truth
>> to power... for you
>> > and for all humans who are facing this "time of
>> plague" together.
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CS>Collodial Silver and Dry Eye Disease

[Davidson, Jeff]

Hello,

 

I am New to this silver - list.

 

I have a Grandson that is 8 years old and he has had a Very Severe Case
of Dry Eye Disease and they 

 

Say that he will go Blind and that they have done all they can do for
him in the City I am in.

 

I was wondering if Collodial Silver might be safe to spray or put in his
eyes and if it might help him

 

Or even cure his Dry Eye Disease.

 

If anyone has experience using Collodial Silver on Dry Eye Disease I
would appreciate a shout back.

 

Thank You

 

JD

CS>Silver on Alex Jones Show

[Aaron M. Robinson]

Normally I would not be posting something like this, especially not if it'z not 
in the Off-Topic forum, but we are treading so heavily on thin-ice here, and 
everybody needs to gain as much knowledge and information as they can and to 
remain informed 24/7.  That being said, the best informative source that will 
keep you up to date is the Alex Jones Show, which you may or may not have heard 
of by now.  Last night their web-site was being attacked by government 
entities, and they could see it on their graphs because once they would find 
which port the site operated it, they just fired an ass-load of information at 
their servers to over-load and then crash them down, and I did notice that 
their web-sites had gone down but I had no idea why until they said it on-air 
during their live nightly broadcast.  During the live-broadcasting, they were 
hit once again, and each time they were hit, it wasn't just affecting their 
web-sites, but it was affecting entire servers and communities because they 
were hitting their area with as much information as possible, just terrabytes 
upon terrabytes, because the government knows how effective and influential 
their shows really are.

Last night they were citing internal memos that they had be given from very 
reliable internal-resources of the CDC and/or WHO, and they said that we were 
at the Pandemic Alert Level 6 already but to not tell the public just yet.  I 
mean Level 5, which we have officially been at since yesterday, is martial-law 
control, and Level 6 is just complete control of the world by the United 
Nations.  They are preparing to innocculate all of us mandatorily with their 
vaccines that probably contain the real deadly viruses which will be the thing 
to try to exterminate 80 - 90% of the world'z population, which the U.N. has 
stated in their own documents, as well as State Department Memorandum 200, and 
other very official documents and statements, that they need to exterminate 
most of the population of this world because they cannot control a population 
of 7 billion people.  Just liek on the Georgia GuideStones located in Elberton, 
Georgia, they need to maintain humanity at below 500 million to be in perpetual 
balance with nature.

As far as keeping informed, everybody needs to be listening to the Alex Jones 
Show during his non-video portion of his broadcast, and then watching him live 
during the video-trasmission part of his broadcast.  Sometimes they  change it 
up if something is really very important, but generally-speaking the Alex Jones 
Show goes audio from 11:00 AM Central Time - 1:00 PM CST, and the video from 
1:00 PM CST - 3:00 PM CST.  The InfoWarrior with Jason Bermas goes video from 
9:00 PM CST - 12:00 AM CST.  Everybody should be watching as much of both of 
these programmings as possible.  They use their sources to gather the 
internal-information for many agencies and they are probably the very most 
informative source you could ever find in any medium, and they do admitt when 
they discover that something they reported on is not correct or is not accurate.

Alex Jones starts his show with live audio-only at 
http://www.infowars.com/32k.m3u
Alex Jones continues his show with live-video, open this up into Windows Media 
Player http://freespeech-pubtv.wm.llnwd.net/freespeech_pubtv 
Don't forget the InfoWarrior with Jason Bermas at night, he is a young man and 
is very dedicating to fighting for our freedom, liberty, and our prosperity.

Everybody should be doing this every single day because it could very well save 
your life.  They discuss everything from health to the New World Order to 
government cover-ups to anything and everything you could ever possibly think 
of.  They did even talk about Silver on the show lately as a way to combat this 
Swine-Flu.

Aaron

CS>Chelated Silver

[Dianne France]

I copied the following from a web site.  There has been a lot about chelated 
silver in our magazines and wanted to know how to make it if it can be made at 
home?  Has
anyone had any experience making Chelated Silver?  Does it have draw backs that 
our cs doesn't?
Dianne
 
 
Chelated Silver™ is silver ions in solution. It is vastly different from the 
silver-based dietary supplement products known as colloidal silver, which is 
silver in suspension. In colloidal silver, finely divided particles of 
elemental silver are randomly floating in suspension in water and are not 
evenly dispersed. In CHELATED SILVER™, ions of pure, crystallized silver 
nitrate are chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions, and are therefore evenly 
dispersed throughout the solution. This bonding in solution considerably 
enhances Chelated Silver™'s antimicrobal action and persistance (killing power 
over time).

In colloidal suspensions, minute silver particles of elemental silver are 
suspended or randomly floating in water, typically at a level of 10-50 parts 
per million. Chelation occurs when a metal ion forms a heterocyclic bond with a 
bidentate ligand. Examples of bidentate ligands are carbonate and oxalate ions 
and ethylenediamine. As a general rule, five- or six-member lingands are 
favored. Chelated Silver™ ions are chemically bonded to nonmetallic ions and 
are evenly dispersed throughout the solution. This concentrated and uniform 
dispersal of Chelated Silver™ ions (typically at a level of 300 to 400 parts 
per million) throughout the solution considerably enhances their antimicrobial 
action, persistence and effectiveness.

Chelated Silver™ is highly effective in blocking the respiration of 
microorganisms causing them to expire. Additionally,  scientific testing is in 
progress to study the effectiveness of Chelated Silver™ in interdicting 
anaerobic bacteria (bacteria that exists in the absence of oxygen). 

CS>FW: Swine flu prevention and treatment

[Dianne France]

I received the following post from the lady that does our biomeredian testing.  
Thought some might be interested in looking at the web site.

Dianne


 
 
Hello My Dear Family, Friends, and Clients,
 
I just finished a Webseminar with my favorite homeopathic supplier Deseret 
Biologicals.
I have attached the link to the Swine Flu prevention and treatment.
http://www.desbio.com/assets/docs/swine_flu.pdf
I have had quite a few family, friends, and clients contact me with many 
questions regarding this information.

CS>A turkey is grand bird. [If he drowns, you know it's raining]

[Ode Coyote]

 Just the truth:
Hit or miss, a gun doesn't shoot a danged thing without a trigger and 
somebody to pull it

A shotgun can be messy, but dinner doesn't care what pellet didn't hit it.

If anything got on the plate,  eat what you choose...something got on the 
plate to be chosen.


Everyone is a teacher.
 Students choose the lessons.

Ode

At 12:40 PM 4/29/2009 -0400, you wrote:


Thanks Ode - and what a gentlemanly thing to say.
I'm very glad we can disagree and still be friendly,
that means a lot to me.

--
indi



On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 06:16:45AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>   Indi may be the most valuable trigger that's been here for a long time.
>
> I was sorry to see Indi gone from the OT list.
>




> Ode
>
>
> At 08:19 PM 4/26/2009 +0100, you wrote:
>> I hope Indi doesn't unsubscribe, because I think she is a nice person
>> and has a very valuable input for the list.  I for one think this topic
>> has gone too far and people are getting personal because others don't
>> agree with them.  i think it may be a good idea for us all to get back
>> to CS or something (Mike, where ARE you?? ,) dee
>>
>
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--
indi

If vegetarians eat vegetables, do libertarians eat liberty?

CS>CS, the Gummint and flying pigs that flu

[Ode Coyote]

 "Our gov't should also tell the people that we already have protection 
from the virus and can even make it ourselves for pennies. OK, there is no 
money to be made in colloidal silver, it only saves lives."


 ## There is no barrier to finding  out..simple and cheap.
 Why depend on Gov'ts  opinion..ESPECIALLY when it's not trusted.

 TELL US THE TRUTH!!  Did a space ship crash at Roswell?

 Can't because it didn't, or won't because it did.it makes no difference.
 So why in Hell are you asking US?

 If a liar is the liar you claim he is...what makes you think you'll EVER 
get the truth out of him?


 In a nutshell
 The FDAs final word on CS is this:

 We are not equipped to test it to our own standards.
 No one else, who can,  is interested in doing it..
 We have decided to not decide... "Don't make us look"

If it works and it's easy enough for anyone to do, and there's no real harm 
in trying... why are you asking for our approval?

 Just DO IT.


Then , if you are wrong...YOU are wrong, not us.
Obviously, we couldn't stop you even if we wanted to.
 Cover your OWN damned ass.

 Besides ...
 Curing you of all your ills isn't our job.
"Preventing harm" however badly we do that, IS our job.
 [That's why we focus on things that CAN be harmful ]

 In CS, we've not found enough harm to prevent...so...GO AWAY kid."ya 
bother me" fer nuthin.


If you are right, you don't need approval then, either.
 Just go ahead and be right, how about it.

 We did this for ya...scared the worst of the whining babies away with old 
wives tales of witches and boogymen.

 Are ya growed up?

 Ya won't listen to us anyhow.

Ode






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Re: CS>POV spun out..gone OT

[Ode Coyote]

 The Devil de-vilified is your best friend.
He's everything you don't want to know.

Ode


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Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

That *is* interesting Lois. Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: 04/29/09 20:43:15
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>PPM and what else eases the flu
 
I Thought this was pretty interesting..My son just told me about it this 
morning.  There are products called "Thieves"--In the far past in France during 
the "Black  Plague" There were 4 thieves that  covered their bodies with 
cloves, rosemary & other aromaties and robbed the plague victims. When they 
were caught they were offered a lighter sentence in exchange for their secret 
recipe.  It has been tested at a university & has cleansing abilities, immune 
System support & good health. <>