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Re: CS>about niacin

2010-01-28 Thread Annie B Smythe


I'm curious Jose,

I've been researching th differences in the Niacin 
forms. What benefits can you get from the Niacin 
bound to Inositol? And so far what you've said 
lines up with the reading I've been doing. I just 
don't know why the Niacin/Inositol would be 
recommended by a doctor instead of regular Niacin. 
For instance it's a recommended Niacin type in the 
Iodine Protocol. The literature says it doesn't 
have the same effect but then it frustrates the 
devil out of me because it won't say what the 
differences are or what effects it actually has 
that are beneficial. Do you know? I'd be grateful 
for clearing up of the muddled information I've found.


Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Jose A Recio wrote:


Sorry Gaylan, I don't agree with you,
No-flush niacin is like hot ice, it does not exist. Niacin with added 
inositol (to get the non-flush effect) is not anymore niacin because it 
alters its structure. The effect of the true niacin is the flush, 
vasodilatation effects are part of it. Niacin never shoud be taken 
togheter with aspirin, because it can cause stomach hemorrage.
I have more than 20 years of experience working with Niacin and never 
any of my clients have had any complain of getting any headache, but, 
because it can cause stomach irritation, I recommend that it should be 
taken with food, not on an empty stomach, and it has to be taken 
beginning with 25mg and gradually increasing the dose until taking 500mg 
3 times a day in a period of 10 days and after that continue taking the 
500mg 3 times a day. The flushing effect of Niacin starts decreasing one 
week after start taking niacin.
 
Jose A Recio,N.D.,A.M.D.,M.Sc.



--- On *Fri, 1/29/10, Gayla Roberts //* wrote:


From: Gayla Roberts 
Subject: Re: CS>Silver accumulation evaluation for Dave
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 12:04 AM

There is also no-flush niacin available. Or slow release niacin.
Niacin can also give you a headache, so it is recommended to take an
aspirin bbefore or with niacin.
Gayla

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*Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:09 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Silver accumulation evaluation for Dave

The story on the Niacin flush was a lesson that everyone should
know about.





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CS>about niacin

2010-01-28 Thread Jose A Recio

Sorry Gaylan, I don't agree with you,
No-flush niacin is like hot ice, it does not exist. Niacin with added inositol 
(to get the non-flush effect) is not anymore niacin because it alters its 
structure. The effect of the true niacin is the flush, vasodilatation effects 
are part of it. Niacin never shoud be taken togheter with aspirin, because it 
can cause stomach hemorrage.
I have more than 20 years of experience working with Niacin and never any of my 
clients have had any complain of getting any headache, but, because it can 
cause stomach irritation, I recommend that it should be taken with food, not on 
an empty stomach, and it has to be taken beginning with 25mg and gradually 
increasing the dose until taking 500mg 3 times a day in a period of 10 days and 
after that continue taking the 500mg 3 times a day. The flushing effect of 
Niacin starts decreasing one week after start taking niacin.
 
Jose A Recio,N.D.,A.M.D.,M.Sc.

--- On Fri, 1/29/10, Gayla Roberts  wrote:


From: Gayla Roberts 
Subject: Re: CS>Silver accumulation evaluation for Dave
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 12:04 AM





There is also no-flush niacin available. Or slow release niacin. Niacin can 
also give you a headache, so it is recommended to take an aspirin bbefore or 
with niacin.
Gayla

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Darrin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver accumulation evaluation for Dave

The story on the Niacin flush was a lesson that everyone should know about.

CS>Phytotherapy in an influenza pandemic

2010-01-28 Thread Annie B Smythe

I found this article extremely interesting in 
light of the recent Swine Flu scare. You have to 
read all the way to the end to get all the 
relevant info. The first part is kind of repeating 
the Flu history so don't give up, the good stuff 
is further down:) It explains Cytokine Storms and 
the mechanism behind them. And another herb I've 
never heard of, for Flu virus suppression. I'm 
always up for learning about another new herb Ive 
never used before. Kind of technical but at the 
same time very readable by anyone. Thought y'all 
might be interested. This site is a gold mine for 
research papers, and a great many of them are very 
recent.


http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Phytotherapy+in+an+influenza+pandemic.-a0206111049

Annie
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Re: CS>New Generator from Russia

2010-01-28 Thread Bob Banever

Mark,

What could be harmful is due to the use of regular tap water instead of
distilled water. Because of the impurities silver chloride or some other
silver compound might be produced which can cause argyria in large amounts. If
distilled water is used then it looks like a good unit on the order of a
Silvergen or Silverpuppy without the automatic stirrer. Don't know about the
constant current in this device either. Better to buy American in this
instance IMO.

Bob
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From: Mark Modica
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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: CS>New Generator from Russia

Oh that silver chloride.
Maybe in about 3 o 4 years James Cameron could cast Avatar II in Moscow.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Mark Modica wrote:

Marshall
Not to get too deep into what they do in Russia -but is their any harmful
effects from this method that could backfire on my theory that this is a good
movement?

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Marshall Dudley
wrote:

It is obvious from their picture of it in use that it is NOT producing
colloidal silver, but silver chloride instead.

Marshall

Mark Modica wrote:

I have been reading and archiving for months. I am buying EIS as needed
but haven't made my own yet. Probably will go with Silvergen.
Because two of my children I and were assaulted by a vicious (viral I
think) infection this week- I was prompted to do a search on Ebay were I found
another generator available from Russia. Cost is about $150.00 including
worldwide shipping
>From some links to studies I have found on this list I know Russia
uses CS to treat water on their space station and I find it encouraging to see
they claim 5 million units sold. I suspect there is more of an issue with even
safe drinking water in parts Ukraine and this machine has low concentration
fast production for treating drinking water as well as 10 PPM (uses automatic
timer)

Has anyone seen this this unit? Any positive or negatives ( other than
buy a machine from another hemisphere) would be appreciated.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ag-SILVER-WATER-GENERATOR-IONIZER-ONLY-Available-Here_W0QQitemZ260519020418QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_HealthBeauty_Other_RL?hash=item3ca824c782

AND...

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEVOTON-IS-112-SILVER-Ag-WATER-GENERATOR-IONIZER-NIB_W0QQitemZ300389261911QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Medical_Specialisations_ET?hash=item45f0986257

Sorry to use Ebay links -- but manufacturer site is in Russian.

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Re: CS>sleep supplement?

2010-01-28 Thread cking001

Celestial Seasonings has a tea made up of most of these herbs called
Sleep Easy.
Most health food stores carry it.
Worked good for me and you don't have to mix a bunch of stuff.

Chuck
Why use a big, long word when a diminutive one will do ?

On 1/28/2010 11:13:38 PM, Annie B Smythe (anniebsmy...@gmail.com)
wrote:
> Melatonin works for some people. Kava Kava,
> Valerian Root, Skullcap, and St John's Wort(It's
> used for other things besides depression, LOL)
> That's not all of them, there are others, Kava or
> Valeria Root usually work well for me personally,
> passion flower, and chamomile work for others. 200
> - 400 mg of Magnesium helps some people. GABA
> (gamma-Aminobutyric acid) helps some folks, or
> 5HTP or Sam E.
> 
> 
> 
> Annie


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Re: CS>Silver accumulation evaluation for Dave

2010-01-28 Thread Gayla Roberts

There is also no-flush niacin available. Or slow release niacin. Niacin can 
also give you a headache, so it is recommended to take an aspirin bbefore or 
with niacin.
Gayla
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Darrin 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:09 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Silver accumulation evaluation for Dave


  The story on the Niacin flush was a lesson that everyone should know about.

Re: CS>sleep supplement?

2010-01-28 Thread Annie B Smythe

Melatonin works for some people. Kava Kava, 
Valerian Root, Skullcap, and St John's Wort(It's 
used for other things besides depression, LOL) 
That's not all of them, there are others, Kava or 
Valeria Root usually work well for me personally, 
passion flower, and chamomile work for others. 200 
- 400 mg of Magnesium helps some people. GABA 
(gamma-Aminobutyric acid) helps some folks, or 
5HTP or Sam E.




Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Vigilius Haufniensis wrote:


Melatonin?
 
 


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*From:* jessie70 
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*Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:08 AM
*Subject:* CS>sleep supplement?

someone mentioned something for sleep yesterday/today and somehow I
deleted it. Please resend to list. It was not the product with
ashwaghanda, theanine & magnolia. Thanks if anyone remembers. Jess 



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Re: CS>Silver accumulation evaluation for Dave

2010-01-28 Thread Dave Darrin

The story on the Niacin flush was a lesson that everyone should know about.
 When I first used niacin I bought 500 mg tablets from costco and when I got
home I took one, about an hour went by with no flush so I took another one
then all hell broke loose. I turned beet red all over my body and felt like
I had been rolling in fiber glass, My Heart beat started pounding very fast
and touching anything felt like fire
including my clothing . Sleeping was impossible. That went on for
twenty four hours.
 So if anyone asks me about taking niacin I tell them to start small  and
build up.
 Now I take 1000 mg in the morning and it takes about twenty minutes for the
flush to start--sometimes less, then at bed time I take another 500 mg and
it also gives a small flush.
Dave

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Norton, Steve wrote:

> Did the niacin cause a flush? If yes, how long after taking the niacin did
> a flush start and how long did it last?
> Thanks,
> - Steve N
>
> --
>  *From*: Dave Darrin 
> *To*: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Sent*: Thu Jan 28 20:23:22 2010
> *Subject*: Re: CS>Silver accumulation evaluation for Dave
>
> Upon rising in the morning I took the niacin and about 1/3 of the silver
> together, the rest through out the day.
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Norton, Steve wrote:
>
>>
>> Dave,
>> What was the time relationship between when you took the niacin and when
>> you would take the EIS? Was it at the same time or was it well separated in
>> time?
>>  - Steve N
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Original Message -
>> From: Norton, Steve 
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>> Sent: Thu Jan 28 18:40:48 2010
>> Subject: RE: CS>Silver accumulation evaluation for
>>
>>
>>
>>
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