CSGarlic Essential Oil

2010-05-04 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Is that widely available?   Is there a brand you recommend?


On Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 13:52 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:


I have some pure essential oil of garlic. This



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RE: CSRe: Cs in the sea !

2010-05-04 Thread M. G. Devour
  ... I dimly remember someone killing all their
  aquarium fish (fresh water) by experimenting with CS in the water...
 
 That was me...

Oh, just to clarify, I didn't kill all my fish. I had a sick individual 
that I tried to treat and lost, which taught me quite a bit. 

I just had learned enough about how an aquarium is supposed to work to 
recognize that experimenting with CS could cause unexpected problems, 
and make it a point to warn people when the suggestion comes up.

Be well,

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CSTyndall cone...or lack of?

2010-05-04 Thread Neville Munn

Well, apart from a couple of comments suggesting a possible lack of particles 
in solution {which is not applicable I might add} it would appear nobody has an 
explanation, or has ever experienced my little quandary with lasers?

 

Praps one of the more 'knowledgable' folk among us who are into experimentation 
and/or research {gurus g} may wish to pick the ball up and run with it by 
getting hold of a red laser of 1mW and run the batteries down and see if they 
get a similar occurrance, although, if my issue happens with an El Cheapo 
freebie laser I can't see why it wouldn't do the same thing with my more 
expensive ones, lasers are lasers.  They either operate, or they don't...DO 
THEY?

 

It's fine to assume that battery power falling below *some?* threshold may 
affect the operational function of a laser, nevertheless it doesn't afford a 
suitable explanation as to what one would expect to observe in such an 
eventuallity when making observations of colloids in liquids?

 

At this stage I've gotta be thinking the use of lasers for determining pretty 
much *anything* with solutions is questionable...[battery reserve dependant!]  
That could be a trap for young players I suspect.

 

Guess I'll just have to wait til some batteries have drained in one of my other 
more expensive lasers and do some more observations to find out.  BUT, it still 
won't give me an explanation as to WHY the light fails to backscatter off 
particles as it passes through that liquid?

 

How about this then...

 

What if I were to suggest that if battery power falls below a specific 
operational threshold it may alter the wavelength and if particles are smaller 
than that wavelength then the light may pass *straight through* the liquid but 
the particles FAIL to backscatter that light?

 

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RE: CSRe: Cs in the sea !

2010-05-04 Thread Tony Moody
Careful Lisa,

I seem to remember someone killing all the contents of a fishtank. 

May I suggest that you get a small isolation tank and put in there a 
sample of what you want to use. And start at low concentrations and ramp 
up until just before damage occurs. :| 

OK,
Tony


On 3 May 2010 at 20:18, Lisa wrote about :
Subject : RE: CSRe: Cs in the sea !

 Ok, so for the mathematically challenged - about what would I use in a
 65
 gallon salt water tank?
 
  
 
 I've got an overgrowth of algae and perhaps this would be an easy way to
 rid
 the tank of it!
 
  
 
 Lisa
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Frank [mailto:frankcuns-r...@comcast.net] 
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:07 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSRe: Cs in the sea !
 
  
 
 Hi,
 
 If you mix sea water with CS the chloride in the water will precipitate
 the
 silver to form silver chloride. A few parts per million will not harm
 the
 fish
 
 Frank
 
  
 
 From: ATOMICSILVER mailto:atomicsil...@gmail.com  
 
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:16 PM
 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 
 Subject: CSRe: Cs in the sea !
 
  
 
 A question for the list which I am fairly sure has not been covered ,
 at
 least for a while. What would the effect be of putting cs in a batch of
 sea
 water. ? And if there were fish , shrimp etc in the sea water , what
 effect
 would it have on them? Any ideas much appreciated Richard
 
 On 02/05/2010, at 11:01, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 I sent this message at 8:20 this morning -- but forgot to trim!!
 
 
 
 Hey Ode!  Just catching up on email, and I read yours.  I don't always
 understand your posts, and maybe I'm not understanding your question
 here
 correctly -- but if I am, then the answer is yes.  My chiropractor
 routinely
 alters the chemistry of venom with electricity.  He has an
 electro-stim
 machine, which uses self-adhesive pads attached to wires attached to
 the
 machine -- through which electricity is conveyed to whatever spot on
 your
 body.  Typically, this machine is used to deep-stimulte muscles -- such
 as
 back muscles -- to get them to release from spasms.  But he also uses
 this
 machine on bites -- snake, brown recluse, tick, bee or wasp stings, etc.
 --
 and it neutralizes the proteins/toxins of the venoms.  It works so well
 on
 tick bites, that I have begun to use my Godzilla to self-treat tick
 bites
 successfully.  Think I'd still head for him if I got a brown recluse
 bite,
 though!
 
 MA  
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 5:07:14 AM
 Subject: Re: CSZapper
 
 
 
 Next question:  Can venom be altered by altering the chemistry of the
 blood
 with an electrical current?
 I'd say likely so.
 Note that most itch sticks have ammonium as the base.. a caustic
 substance.
 Pee on jelly fish stings..ammonium again.
 Ammonium Hydroxide...Sodium Hydroxide.  Alkaline.
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 ATOMICSILVER
 
 atomicsil...@gmail.com
 
 www.atomicsilver.info
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 



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Re: CSZapper

2010-05-04 Thread Ode Coyote



  It only cancels out what is left in the surface where blood flow is 
slow...which is also  why it's painful.
With 15 minute cycles, or even 5 minute cycles, you've given it time for 
most of the chemicals to enter the blood stream before being canceled by 
the switch.


 The cancellation effect wouldn't be instant, but it would be pretty fast, 
so some small amount of time spend doing that would detract from the amount 
of time stuff of one sort or the other is entering the blood 
stream..and..building up in the skin...so the faster the cycle the more 
that factor takes out of the cycle doing nothing to change the bloodbut 
keeps the skin neutral.


Ode


At 10:33 AM 5/3/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Hi Mary Ann,

It has been advised on the Microelectricitygermkiller group to switch 
polarity at five minute intervals to avoid the possibility of pain which 
can develop in the fingers if this is not done. Apparently, someone who 
was not switching polarity ended up with fairly severe pain after ignoring 
the advice.


If polarity switching effectively cancels out any effectiveness of using 
the Zilla why then do people get huge herxes and why do reports of 
condition improvements exist? Pacebo effect is something I can accept as a 
possible partial explanation for improvements but for herxing??


Peter

- Original Message -
From: mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.netMaryAnn Helland
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSZapper

OK -- here's another message I found from last Wednesday.

If you're right, and switching polarity negates the use of the unit in 
the first place -- then what's the point of it all?  Would one, instead, 
simply use one polarity as long as tolerable?

MA


From: Ode Coyote mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netodecoy...@windstream.net

Yea, that's the basic idea.


At 05:44 AM 4/27/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Ode -- are you saying that by switching polarity, you're undoing whatever
good you're doing by using the unit in the first place?
MA (confused)


From: Ode Coyote 
mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netmailto:odecoy...@windstream.netodecoy...@windstream.net



PS  Switching polarity inputs the opposing electrochemical, neutralizing
what you were trying to do at that spot.



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Re: CSZapper

2010-05-04 Thread Kathy Tankersley
I hate to be reallly green about this, what does it mean to switch the 
polarity? Thanks, Kathy
- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSZapper





  It only cancels out what is left in the surface where blood flow is 
slow...which is also  why it's painful.
With 15 minute cycles, or even 5 minute cycles, you've given it time for 
most of the chemicals to enter the blood stream before being canceled by 
the switch.


 The cancellation effect wouldn't be instant, but it would be pretty fast, 
so some small amount of time spend doing that would detract from the 
amount of time stuff of one sort or the other is entering the blood 
stream..and..building up in the skin...so the faster the cycle the more 
that factor takes out of the cycle doing nothing to change the 
bloodbut keeps the skin neutral.


Ode


At 10:33 AM 5/3/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Hi Mary Ann,

It has been advised on the Microelectricitygermkiller group to switch 
polarity at five minute intervals to avoid the possibility of pain which 
can develop in the fingers if this is not done. Apparently, someone who 
was not switching polarity ended up with fairly severe pain after ignoring 
the advice.


If polarity switching effectively cancels out any effectiveness of using 
the Zilla why then do people get huge herxes and why do reports of 
condition improvements exist? Pacebo effect is something I can accept as a 
possible partial explanation for improvements but for herxing??


Peter

- Original Message -
From: mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.netMaryAnn Helland
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSZapper

OK -- here's another message I found from last Wednesday.

If you're right, and switching polarity negates the use of the unit in 
the first place -- then what's the point of it all?  Would one, instead, 
simply use one polarity as long as tolerable?

MA


From: Ode Coyote 
mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netodecoy...@windstream.net


Yea, that's the basic idea.


At 05:44 AM 4/27/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Ode -- are you saying that by switching polarity, you're undoing 
whatever

good you're doing by using the unit in the first place?
MA (confused)


From: Ode Coyote
mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netmailto:odecoy...@windstream.netodecoy...@windstream.net


PS  Switching polarity inputs the opposing electrochemical, 
neutralizing

what you were trying to do at that spot.



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Re: CSZapper

2010-05-04 Thread MaryAnn Helland
She'll develop a whole new clientele!!
MA





From: Del d...@altsystem.com


My wife sees her frequently for spinal and hip adjustments.
I'll have her ask about it.
My guess is, she never heard of it, but would be willing to try it.
Couldn't do any harm.
- Original Message - 
From: MaryAnn Helland 


Hey Del -- ask him (her?) if he ever uses it on bites.  I'd be curious to know!
MA





From: Del d...@altsystem.com


Hey, this is really good to know.
Our chiropractor has the muscle stimulation machine too.
Makes sense that it might work on bites, but I never thought of it before.

Del
- Original Message - 
From: MaryAnn Helland 


Hey Ode!  Just catching up on email, and I read yours.  I don't always 
understand your posts, and maybe I'm not understanding your question here 
correctly -- but if I am, then the answer is yes.  My chiropractor routinely 
alters the chemistry of venom with electricity.  He has an electro-stim 
machine, which uses self-adhesive pads attached to wires attached to the 
machine -- through which electricity is conveyed to whatever spot on your 
body.  Typically, this machine is used to deep-stimulte muscles -- such as 
back muscles -- to get them to release from spasms.  But he also uses this 
machine on bites -- snake, brown recluse, tick, bee or wasp stings, etc. -- 
and it neutralizes the proteins/toxins of the venoms.  It works so well on 
tick bites, that I have begun to use my Godzilla to self-treat tick bites 
successfully.  Think I'd still head for him if I got a brown recluse bite, 
though!




 



Re: CSGarlic Essential Oil

2010-05-04 Thread Carol Ann


Unfortunately, 
Neither Garlic nor Onion essential oils are widely available in places of 
typical shoppers convenience - health food stores, etc. they sell mostly the 
pleasant smelling oils the public prefers. And for good reason..they would 
probably stink the place up everytime somone opened the bottle to sample.  And 
when one samples http://www.essentialoils.co.za/olfactory.htm  automatically 
kicks in...a retailers preference is to have relaxed, happy shoppers, they buy 
more. :)
 
 I would no longer know where to buy good quality as I bought my oils yrs ago 
while working in an Apothocary.  
 
These folks I think would make good recommendations as to where to buy.
 
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/oils_herbs_etc/
 
  
Another potent oil though, which everyone should have on hand and much more 
readily available is Oil of Oregano (Origanum vulgare) very affordable and 
available at places like Vitamin Shoppe, or any natural food market.
 


Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:


From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp
Subject: CSGarlic Essential Oil
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 2:04 AM


Is that widely available?   Is there a brand you recommend?


On Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 13:52 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 I have some pure essential oil of garlic. This


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Re: CSThe Best Bug Spray in the World. (in my opinion)

2010-05-04 Thread Renee
Hi Carol Ann.  I've never heard of eo of garlic.  Well, one lady in south
Texas had lots of strange oils, but I don't recall the garlic one, and they
were used more for spiritual rather than external application.

Since garlic oil is known to spoil--as when making an oil of garlic using
olive oil and garlic cloves--I'm thinking if what you have is a true eo, it
would not spoil.

Where did you obtain eo of garlic?  

samala,
Renee
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Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body.  The Am Wand helps 
you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 
 
---Original Message---
 

 
I have some pure essential oil of garlic. This stuff is so potent it must be
kept in a jar, within a jar, within a jar and then wrapped in plastic.  i
warned him, he would smell for days afterwards but he was desparate and
receptive.
 
Well, long story short.  He ended up throwing the clothes he wore away
because they stank, but his cold was cured in 2 days after just rubbing  a
few drops on his his skin.  Garlic is a gift of the gods. :)
 

Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

--- On Mon, 5/3/10, bodhisattva bodhisat...@mutemail.com wrote:



The cool thing is, it costs like $5 to make a huge batch.  Test it yourself,
and see..  You can clear an entire camp with it. I tested it for 2-3 years
before giving out the recipe, and offering it for sale to people. Garlic is
good, I sometimes consume 6-12 cloves a day, it's very potent parasite
killer, also good against other unseen things.  Back in the old days, 1
clove would make me pretty sick, probably because I admit, I was filled with
parasites. These days? No limit to what I can consume apparently.

Bob Banever wrote:
 bodhi,
 
   I'm sure it's a great product and I didn't mean to infer anything
differently.  I also know that garlic can smell rather unpleasant at times,
so I thought I'd comment on that aspect of it.


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Re: CSRe: Cs in the sea !

2010-05-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
We have know for a long time that CS can cure many fish ailments. 
However there is a caution, and that is that CS will kill the bacteria 
that are needed to convert the wastes to harmless substances.  Thus it 
can cause deterioration of water quality until the fish die.  Normally 
if a fish is sick you pull it out and put it in a small bowl with CS 
until it is well then put it back.


I have never understood why the EPA says that silver is extremely toxic 
to fish when we have found that it can cure most fish diseases without 
injury to the fish.


Marshall

bodhisattva wrote:
I discovered CS as a GREAT thing to keep in fish tanks!  Turns out, 
someone else discovered this before me.. Now there are a couple of 
companies selling CS for Fish Tanks.


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ATOMICSILVER wrote:
A question for the list which I am fairly sure has not been covered , 
at least for a while. What would the effect be of putting cs in a 
batch of sea water. ? And if there were fish , shrimp etc in the sea 
water , what effect would it have on them? Any ideas much appreciated 
Richard

On 02/05/2010, at 11:01, MaryAnn Helland wrote:


I sent this message at 8:20 this morning -- but forgot to trim!!


Hey Ode!  Just catching up on email, and I read yours.  I don't 
always understand your posts, and maybe I'm not understanding your 
question here correctly -- but if I am, then the answer is yes.  My 
chiropractor routinely alters the chemistry of venom with 
electricity.  He has an electro-stim machine, which uses 
self-adhesive pads attached to wires attached to the machine -- 
through which electricity is conveyed to whatever spot on your 
body.  Typically, this machine is used to deep-stimulte muscles -- 
such as back muscles -- to get them to release from spasms.  But he 
also uses this machine on bites -- snake, brown recluse, tick, bee 
or wasp stings, etc. -- and it neutralizes the proteins/toxins of 
the venoms.  It works so well on tick bites, that I have begun to 
use my Godzilla to self-treat tick bites successfully.  Think I'd 
still head for him if I got a brown recluse bite, though!
MA  



*From:* Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net 
mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net

*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wed, April 28, 2010 5:07:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSZapper



Next question:  Can venom be altered by altering the chemistry of 
the blood with an electrical current?

I'd say likely so.
Note that most itch sticks have ammonium as the base.. a caustic 
substance.

Pee on jelly fish stings..ammonium again.
Ammonium Hydroxide...Sodium Hydroxide.  Alkaline.



 






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Re: CSZapper

2010-05-04 Thread Marshall Dudley

This is the theory I have been posting here for over 10 years.

Marshall

Tel Tofflemire wrote:
Marshall Dudley, You old timer You, You got it right !  So far your 
the only one that I seen that did get it right.


Way to go,  Or  Way to Know !
 
Tel Tofflemire

Dewey, AZ.



*From:* Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Mon, May 3, 2010 2:25:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSZapper

Polarity makes no difference. For instance if you take a Clark zapper, 
and switch hands, then it works just as well.  DNA is wound like a 
spring.  And just like a spring, it has a resonant frequency.  Hit it 
with that frequency (Rife), and it will break apart.  Now DNA is 
pretty resilient stuff, and if the parts that break apart don't drift 
apart, they can recombine and become one again.  Both the Clark and 
Beck zappers rely on sharp edged square wave pulses to generate a 
harmonic near the resonant frequency.  The Fourier expansion of a 
square wave has all multiples of that frequency, so if you pick a 
frequency that is not to high it will have harmonics that are very 
close to resonance for a pathogen.  Apply the square wave, and the DNA 
tends to break apart. Now when DNA breaks apart different pieces have 
different electric charges, and thus have a tug toward either the 
positive or negative electrode.  However if the polarity changes 
direction, they will tend to drift back together and recombine 
becoming whole again. So there MUST be a DC component to the field to 
continue pulling the pieces apart until they are so far apart that 
they will not get back together again (or in the case of Rife hit it 
with so much energy at the resonant frequency it doesn't just break 
but shatters). This can be done either of two ways.  1. If using a 
frequency of 20 Khz or so, make it unipolar instead of bipolar, so 
that there is a DC field overriding the square wave at all times. This 
is the Clark approach.  2. Use such a low frequency that the pieces 
are pulled so far apart that even though the polarity reverses, they 
will still not be able to find each other again due to random motion 
during that time. This is the Beck approach.  They both work, Beck has 
the advantage that one of the harmonics will likely be closer to the 
resonance than the Clark unit, and Clark has the advantage that it is 
hitting it with the pulse 1,000 to 2,000 times as often, so even if 
the resonant efficiency is less, it is made up for by the high 
repetition rate.


As for the question of killing with one polarity or the other, then 
yes. For the Beck unit when you shift polarity, the next leading edge, 
either up or down, will cause DNA to break, and the electric field 
during that half wave will cause the parts to drift apart. In the case 
of the Clark unit, for the positive pulse, they break apart and the 
field pulls them apart a little bit.  During  the ground pulse, the 
falling edge will also cause breakage, but with no electric field, 
some of the pieces will find each other again, but with the positive 
pulse coming so quickly (50 microseconds) most likely they will 
experience the separating field as well before they can recombine.


Marshall

Bob Banever wrote:
 Marshall,

Well if that's true then why would the polarity make any 
difference


 at all... BOTH polarities supposedly kill germs... so if you're 
killing with


 one you'd also be killing with the other... no?
 - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:09 PM
 Subject: Re: CSZapper


 Bob Banever wrote:
 Switching polarity doesn't negate the effects.  If you kill a germ 
using one polarity and then switch to another will the germ be brought 
back to life?  Don't think so!


 Well, actually yeah, kind of.  If you tear the dna apart in a germ, 
it is basically dead, but if the dna reconnects and becomes whole 
again, yeah, it will be alive again. If you reverse the polarity, the 
dna fragments will drift back together and reconnect, thus the 
necessity for the DC offset to Keep Em'  Dead. Just like you can be 
dead in the emergency room and come back to life if the proper 
treatment is preformed.


 Marshall


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CSWound care....using colloidal silver for it

2010-05-04 Thread Garrick
Hi all,

I might not be able to get them to try it out but.
I know an elderly couple and the man has a wound on his shin that will not
heal
He had a skin cancer removed from there
He is diabetic so poor circulation to his limbs
What is the best way to keep the colloidal silver on the wound?
A good bandage that you keep wet with CS?

This guy is 92 years old and served on our (USA) bomber crews in WW2 in the
Pacific
He was kind of a boxing champ in the military. He showed me some photos of
him from in the boxing ring. He worked mostly in industrial bakeries during
his working life

Thanks
Garrick


Re: CSWound care....using colloidal silver for it

2010-05-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
That is how I would do it.  That is how I got the end of my thumb to 
grow back with fingerprint and all after cutting it off.


Marshall

Garrick wrote:

Hi all,

I might not be able to get them to try it out but.
I know an elderly couple and the man has a wound on his shin that will 
not heal

He had a skin cancer removed from there
He is diabetic so poor circulation to his limbs
What is the best way to keep the colloidal silver on the wound?
A good bandage that you keep wet with CS?

This guy is 92 years old and served on our (USA) bomber crews in WW2 
in the Pacific
He was kind of a boxing champ in the military. He showed me some 
photos of him from in the boxing ring. He worked mostly in industrial 
bakeries during his working life


Thanks
Garrick





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Re: CSThe Best Bug Spray in the World. (in my opinion)

2010-05-04 Thread Carol Ann
Hi Carol Ann.  I've never heard of eo of garlic.  Well, one lady in south Texas 
had lots of strange oils, but I don't recall the garlic one, and they were used 
more for spiritual rather than external application.
 
Since garlic oil is known to spoil--as when making an oil of garlic using olive 
oil and garlic cloves--I'm thinking if what you have is a true eo, it would not 
spoil.
 
 
Hi Rene,
Essential oils, basically, do not SPOIL, in the way that other oils do.  I have 
mine for years now and they are just as potent as ever. They are not 
really..OILS in the traditional sense and most are obtained through a 
distillation process from seeds etc. .They are not mixed with any other 
substance and are considered pure, undiluted essences. 
 
Mine, as I said were bought while I worked in an Apotochary, who bought theirs 
wholesale from a distributor, if I recall correctly...who is in New Jersey.  
Extremely, potent stuff. I am amazed that one can still smell them if they are 
in a bottle wrapped and capped tightly. Emanates right through the glass 
jars. And they must be kept separately from the other oils as they will 
overpower them all. 

--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:





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Hi Carol Ann.  I've never heard of eo of garlic.  Well, one lady in south Texas 
had lots of strange oils, but I don't recall the garlic one, and they were used 
more for spiritual rather than external application.
 
Since garlic oil is known to spoil--as when making an oil of garlic using olive 
oil and garlic cloves--I'm thinking if what you have is a true eo, it would not 
spoil.
 
Where did you obtain eo of garlic?  
 


samala,
Renee
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you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 
 
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I have some pure essential oil of garlic. This stuff is so potent it must be 
kept in a jar, within a jar, within a jar and then wrapped in plastic.  i 
warned him, he would smell for days afterwards but he was desparate and 
receptive.
 
Well, long story short.  He ended up throwing the clothes he wore away because 
they stank, but his cold was cured in 2 days after just rubbing  a few drops on 
his his skin.  Garlic is a gift of the gods. :)
 

Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

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The cool thing is, it costs like $5 to make a huge batch.  Test it yourself, 
and see..  You can clear an entire camp with it. I tested it for 2-3 years 
before giving out the recipe, and offering it for sale to people. Garlic is 
good, I sometimes consume 6-12 cloves a day, it's very potent parasite killer, 
also good against other unseen things.  Back in the old days, 1 clove would 
make me pretty sick, probably because I admit, I was filled with parasites. 
These days? No limit to what I can consume apparently.

Bob Banever wrote:
 bodhi,
 
       I'm sure it's a great product and I didn't mean to infer anything 
differently.  I also know that garlic can smell rather unpleasant at times, so 
I thought I'd comment on that aspect of it.


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Re: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Converse
Sowas Kurt right all along with his rants (a couple of years ago) about 
how they were trying to depopulate planet earth??


seems like Monsanto's found a great way to mess with sperm counts among 
male soy eaters and, as well, among  the male offspring of female soy 
eaters.


...and what about elevating estrogen levels to insidiously cause cancers in 
women?


I wonder if it works as well with wheat, corn and rice when they're 
engineered to be round-up ready?


H..


- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto



  The real conspiracy is to turn us all into sleepy girls.

%%
But we remain unconvinced that transgenic soybeans are strictly equivalent 
to conventional ones. For one, the amino acid composition of engineered 
soybeans is likely to differ.
Here's why. To create Roundup Ready soybeans, Monsanto's genetic 
engineers boost the activity of a gene which makes critical amino acids 
like **trytophan** [The thanksgiving turkey sleepy drug]. The fact that 
these amino acids are in greater abundance inside plant cells not only 
confers resistance to Roundup® herbicide, but likely shifts plant 
metabolism as well.
One of the main biosynthetic products of soybean metabolism is a class of 
compounds called isoflavonoids.


 These plant substances, because they have a remarkable similarity to our 
body's own estrogens, are called phytoestrogens.
Estrogenic substances play critical roles in controlling sexual 
differentiation. Hence, it is essential to know how much or little 
phytoestrogen is present in soy products.
 A recent non-industry research team headed by Dr. H. Sandermann and 
working in Germany found data that suggests Roundup Ready soybeans may 
have elevated phytoestrogens.
These researchers discovered that glyphosate treatment of legumes (fava 
beans in this case) like soybeans increases the level of plant estrogens.
 If confirmed, this study provides disturbing evidence that transgenic 
crops are not only different, but may well have a dramatic impact on the 
health and well-being of those who rely on soy protein as a major part of 
their diet.
While increased amounts of phytoestrogens in adult diets may protect 
against certain malignancies or provide other benefits, equally benevolent 
effects are unlikely if such estrogenic substances enter the diet of 
newborns.

%%

 Soy beans already have Phytoestrogens in them.MORE?

..I like girls just fine, sleepy or not and half of us say it ain't so bad 
to be one.
..just so long as they don't look like soy bean gobbling female 
turkeys.

[er, no thanx given there ]

Ode


At 03:05 PM 5/2/2010 -0400, you wrote:
They already own the patent on every soybean in the world!  GM is Roundup 
Ready this means they can spray Roundup on soybean crops and only the 
weeds will be killed.  How much Roundup are we getting with soymilk, 
beans, etc???


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Bob Banever 
mailto:bbane...@earthlink.netbbane...@earthlink.net wrote:

Anne,

 Monsanto is THE most evil company on the planet.  They are tryoing 
to poison the entire human population with their GM foods.  They are a 
bunch of nazis, nothing more and nothing less.


 Bob
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To: CS List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:55 AM
Subject: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto



Meat claimed as invention by Monsanto

http://www.gmwatch.eu/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=12178http://www.gmwatch.eu/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=12178

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Re: CSWound care....using colloidal silver for it

2010-05-04 Thread Jason R Eaton
Hi Garrick:

I have extensive experience with wound management and complex colloids and 
hydrosols.  Yes, you can simply add CS to the wound, bandage it, and use a 
spray bottle to spray the bandage to keep the active silver on the wound site.

However, this is not the best method, especially with non-healing wounds.  The 
silver will be key to help heal the wound, but it will do nothing to help 
address the lack of oxygen in the tissue, nor the failure of the lower 
lymphatic system.

Starting on page 56 of my book, I describe how you can use silver and a complex 
clay colloid to heal even the worst infections... even with diabetics and those 
on immune system destroying drugs.

http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UCprintsec=frontcoverdq=upon+a+clay+tabletcd=1#v=onepageqf=false

I use 50% colloidal silver at about 10PPM, with 50% of whatever ionic complex I 
want to use, in order to hydrate healing grade therapeutic clay.  Now, not all 
bentonites will work with serious wound-care.  To ensure success, a healing 
grade clay must be used.

About four years ago I ran into the first case where silver and clay would not 
heal a severe infection.  The infection was in the bone of the foot; it was a 
typical diabetic tunneling wound turned infection.  The MD was getting ready to 
take the whole foot off.

I couldn't fathom how/why the silver clay combination was not working.  I then 
realized that the primary issue was probably oxygen/circulation related.  So I 
developed a three stage treatment system.

First, the individual would place the entire foot in a small tub filled with 
colloidal silver.  Then, the individual would bubble ozone with a disc bubbler 
THROUGH the silver hydrosol and underneath the wound site.  The individual was 
instructed to do this twice daily for 30 minutes per treatment.  The individual 
was compliant because the ozone greatly soothed the wound.

Next, the individual was to use a therapeutic clay hydrated with at least 50% 
colloidal silver and pack it inside the wound and on the bottom of the foot, 
and then secure the clay in place with a clean bandage... inbetween the two 
daily treatments, the clay would remain.  The individual was compliant because 
as long as the hydrated clay was packed, there was no pain or irritation.

I'm certain the infection was destroyed within the first 72 hours; the wound 
took a few months to completely heal, but it did so.

Later, I started to study, contrast and compare the world's most famous 
therapeutic clays.  As I studied their characteristics, I realized that 
different clays had different strengths and weaknesses, and yet they could be 
used together to produce a synergetic effect.

I will be publishing these studies in my next Volume, but it will likely be 
about 3-5 years to complete the science... 

However, I was able to produce a complex colloid that involves a blend of three 
clays, and that was precisely PH balanced for proper skin health and 
wound-care.  The problem with silver is it is almost caustic because it is very 
close to distilled water.  The problem with most therapeutic clays is that they 
are very alkaline.  Using the knowlege I gained back in 2001 working with Greg 
Caton's altcancer.com products, I hypothesized that I could utilize Alpha Omega 
Lab's Hydronium solution to safely modify the PH levels of any solution without 
concern for skin irritation.  The tests proved effective, and I was able to 
develop a complex colloid that could be kept on any wound. 24 hours a day, 
7 days a week, for one to two months.

The clay was to be kept hydrated simply by using a spray bottle and spraying 
silver onto the dressing.  After all wound draining (the clay has to be changed 
out often until any wound is done draining), the clay is simply changed out two 
to three times daily. Using this method, you also avoid wound chilling, 
which can greatly slow down healing.  If you are just spraying silver on a 
wound, it needs to be at body temperature, or slightly warm.  The area needs to 
be insulated enough not to chill after application, as well.

http://www.eytonsearth.org/skin-cancer-salve.html ...these are just some notes 
thrown together on an example of such a treatment.

Kind Regards,

Jason







  - Original Message - 
  From: Garrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:35 AM
  Subject: CSWound careusing colloidal silver for it


  Hi all,

  I might not be able to get them to try it out but.
  I know an elderly couple and the man has a wound on his shin that will not 
heal
  He had a skin cancer removed from there
  He is diabetic so poor circulation to his limbs
  What is the best way to keep the colloidal silver on the wound?
  A good bandage that you keep wet with CS?

  This guy is 92 years old and served on our (USA) bomber crews in WW2 in the 
Pacific
  He was kind of a boxing champ in the military. He showed me some photos of 
him from in the boxing 

Re: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto

2010-05-04 Thread Annie B Smythe
Not only that but fluorides, and other chemicals 
in the water and food, and plastics and just about 
everything cause ill health effects. And many of 
them are estrogemic or intergere with normal 
hormone functions of the body.


Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Peter Converse wrote:
Sowas Kurt right all along with his rants (a couple of years ago) 
about how they were trying to depopulate planet earth??


seems like Monsanto's found a great way to mess with sperm counts 
among male soy eaters and, as well, among  the male offspring of female 
soy eaters.


...and what about elevating estrogen levels to insidiously cause cancers 
in women?


I wonder if it works as well with wheat, corn and rice when they're 
engineered to be round-up ready?


H..


- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto



  The real conspiracy is to turn us all into sleepy girls.

%%
But we remain unconvinced that transgenic soybeans are strictly 
equivalent to conventional ones. For one, the amino acid composition 
of engineered soybeans is likely to differ.
Here's why. To create Roundup Ready soybeans, Monsanto's genetic 
engineers boost the activity of a gene which makes critical amino 
acids like **trytophan** [The thanksgiving turkey sleepy drug]. The 
fact that these amino acids are in greater abundance inside plant 
cells not only confers resistance to Roundup® herbicide, but likely 
shifts plant metabolism as well.
One of the main biosynthetic products of soybean metabolism is a class 
of compounds called isoflavonoids.


 These plant substances, because they have a remarkable similarity to 
our body's own estrogens, are called phytoestrogens.
Estrogenic substances play critical roles in controlling sexual 
differentiation. Hence, it is essential to know how much or little 
phytoestrogen is present in soy products.
 A recent non-industry research team headed by Dr. H. Sandermann and 
working in Germany found data that suggests Roundup Ready soybeans 
may have elevated phytoestrogens.
These researchers discovered that glyphosate treatment of legumes 
(fava beans in this case) like soybeans increases the level of plant 
estrogens.
 If confirmed, this study provides disturbing evidence that transgenic 
crops are not only different, but may well have a dramatic impact on 
the health and well-being of those who rely on soy protein as a major 
part of their diet.
While increased amounts of phytoestrogens in adult diets may protect 
against certain malignancies or provide other benefits, equally 
benevolent effects are unlikely if such estrogenic substances enter 
the diet of newborns.

%%

 Soy beans already have Phytoestrogens in them.MORE?

..I like girls just fine, sleepy or not and half of us say it ain't so 
bad to be one.
..just so long as they don't look like soy bean gobbling female 
turkeys.

[er, no thanx given there ]

Ode


At 03:05 PM 5/2/2010 -0400, you wrote:
They already own the patent on every soybean in the world!  GM is 
Roundup Ready this means they can spray Roundup on soybean crops 
and only the weeds will be killed.  How much Roundup are we getting 
with soymilk, beans, etc???


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Bob Banever 
mailto:bbane...@earthlink.netbbane...@earthlink.net wrote:

Anne,

 Monsanto is THE most evil company on the planet.  They are 
tryoing to poison the entire human population with their GM foods.  
They are a bunch of nazis, nothing more and nothing less.


 Bob
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To: CS List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:55 AM
Subject: CSMeat claimed as invention by Monsanto



Meat claimed as invention by Monsanto

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CSHealing (UNCLASSIFIED)

2010-05-04 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Several years ago I burned my hand bad with a plasma cutter,
Thump and next finger.
I soaked daily in CS and kept bandage wet with CS.
The doctor was amazed on how fast and well it healed.

Bob 
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE




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Re: CSZapper

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Converse

I second that Chuck!

Marshall,

If I may ask, while we're on this topic...

So, if someone is using a coil machine, having a sine wave, it must be 
relying on sheer power to shatter the pathogen's DNAno harmonics 
involved at all.correct?


But... will this power KEEP the DNA particles from migrating back toward one 
another and reassembling themselves? Evidence seems to demonstrate 
thiswhaddya think?


Now, what about a GB4000 contact Rife-type machine, with only 10 Watts of 
output (using the optional amp)it can be used in either of  its square 
or sine wave modes (square for the lower range frequencies and sine for the 
higher ones). Some people claim that it also produces harmonics with its AC 
square wave while others say only a DC positive offset square wave can do 
so...opinions?


Some have converted their GB4000s to positive offset by using a diode and 
believe that their results were more predictable after doing 
thisopinions?


Some believe that AC frequencies in the MHz range work very well in sine 
wave mode due to their sharp leading edges, especially when they are gated 
(pulsed). RR Rife was reportedly quoted as saying that gating is what 
actually devitalizes/kills the pathogens. He used a second frequency of 1330 
Hz, or thereabouts, laid overtop the MOR with a 30% duty cycle for this 
gated frequency, to achieve this effect. So, it seems that the power output 
he used combined with the sharp waveform and the gating were synergistic in 
producing the desired effect. (not to forget the plasma bulb 
characteristics)


Question...how can the GB4000 be used with a greater power output in radiant 
mode, rather than in contact mode (which seems hit and miss) without 
upsetting airwave authorities?


Sorry for all the questions but you seem to be the guy to ask.

Thanks,

Peter


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSZapper


A really nice analysis, Marshall.

Chuck
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Re: CSThe Best Bug Spray in the World. (in my opinion)

2010-05-04 Thread Saralou Pedigo
Here are a couple of places
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//www.libertynatural.com/bulk/1762.htm

I have purchased from Liberty Natural here and there.

Here are a couple research items.

//www.essentialoil.in/garlic-oil.shtml
//www.theperfumery.com/shop/  honorable people but no garlic EO at the
moment
//www.newdirectionsaromatics.com/garlic-essential-oil-p-250.html
//
blog.taragana.com/health/2009/09/05/oregano-garlic-essential-oils-can-be-effective-barriers-against-e-coli-11408/
//www.newdirectionsaromatics.com/garlic-essential-oil-p-250.html
//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035364
//ohioline.osu.edu/sc172/sc172_8.html






On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Carol Ann.  I've never heard of eo of garlic.  Well, one lady in
 south Texas had lots of strange oils, but I don't recall the garlic one, and
 they were used more for spiritual rather than external application.

 Since garlic oil is known to spoil--as when making an oil of garlic using
 olive oil and garlic cloves--I'm thinking if what you have is a true eo, it
 would not spoil.

 Where did you obtain eo of garlic?

  samala,
 Renee
 www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt
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 you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here

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Re: CSRe: Cs in the sea !

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Converse
I 've had no experience with aquariums at all but I think I saw somewhere 
that people had been using Levamisole Hydrochloride for that purpose. Maybe 
someone much more knowledgeable can comment.


Peter

- Original Message - 
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:57 AM
Subject: RE: CSRe: Cs in the sea !



I'd be very careful, I dimly remember someone killing all their aquarium
fish (fresh water) by experimenting with CS in the water; it was on this
list several years ago.  As Frank points out, the silver chloride may be
much less toxic, it's much less effective.  I'd also wonder if it would
kill algae.


That was me...

I'll have to check out the link that was posted. If people are now
deliberately using silver preparations in aquariums, I'd like to see
what they're saying about it.

A properly balanced (freshwater) aquarium has a well established
biological filter consisting of several classes of bacteria that
progressively break down fish waste products into sequentially less
toxic chemical forms.

If you combine that with regular partial water changes to control the
ultimate concentration of the final breakdown products, the healthy
aquarium can be very attractive and low maintenance.

At least part of the chemical sequence is something like this:

Ammonia  Nitrates  Nitrites

Extremely Toxic  Moderately toxic  Mildly toxic

(I might have the nitrates and nitrites reversed. It's been a few
years! shrug)

A different type of bacterium is responsible for each step, and a
similar sequence processes fecal matter. They all balance each other
out and self-adjust as needed, creating a surprisingly resilient
system. They grow in the gravel and any filter medium.

If you take a setup like that and throw antibiotics or CS in it, in
sufficient quantities to kill or damage the biological filter, you'll
have almost instant problems with build up of waste products plus the
dumping of all the metabolites of the now dead bacteria.

Only aggressive and disruptive major water changes would allow you to
stay ahead of the toxic buildup and allow you to eventually re-
establish a healthy eco-system.

If you want to treat diseased fish, it would be better to carefully
establish a separate and well controlled treatment tank and transfer
them to it, rather than treat the whole tank. Such a setup would
require careful monitoring of waste products and water chemistry, given
that it would not have anything to stabilize the conditions.

Now, this is only one style of aquarium management. I'm sure there are
others. I only know about this with respect to freshwater; I have no
experience with salt-water aquaria.

Just read up and know what you're doing before you start to experiment,
if you care about your fish.

Be well!

Mike D.

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Re: CSWound care....using colloidal silver for it

2010-05-04 Thread Del
Hi Jason:

Good to see you back on this list again, it's been a while.
This post is timely for me, I have an infection on the knuckle of my thumb that 
will not go away.
I scored it with a hand saw while sawing up some downed tree limbs in my back 
yard.
It bled quite a bit, and I first washed it out then poured on some DMSO and CS, 
and some Cayenne Tincture, then bandaged it with a Band-Aid and Bacitracin.
It healed over, but apparently an infection persisted under the skin, which now 
has a lump on the knuckle.
I tried applying CS and DMSO several times a day, but not much success.
So I switched to DMSO and SSKI (potassium iodide) with better results, but 
still not eliminated.
It so happens that my wife is using pure calcium bentonite as a facial.
It's this one here:
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=SW-1001
Would this work for my thumb as described in your email?
And what do you mean by 50% of whatever ionic complex.
Why not just use 100% CS with the clay?
I assume the clay acts to draw out the infection and the CS kills it?

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jason R Eaton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:40 PM
  Subject: Re: CSWound careusing colloidal silver for it



  I use 50% colloidal silver at about 10PPM, with 50% of whatever ionic complex 
I want to use, in order to hydrate healing grade therapeutic clay.  Now, not 
all bentonites will work with serious wound-care.  To ensure success, a healing 
grade clay must be used.



RE: CSZapper

2010-05-04 Thread Norton, Steve
I haven't looked much into the zappers since they apparently won't help
with a problem I am trying to solve - a parasite problem in one of my
cats that has been resistant to numerous medications. But I have been
looking into magnetic pulsers since they may be able to solve the
problem. I think much of the info I have found about magnetic pulsers is
applicable to zappers, zillas, etc. 
It seems to me that there are generally two methods that zappers,
zillas, Beck blood electrification and Rife machines use to kill
pathogens. The first is the method Ode has posted about where sodium
hydroxide and hypochlorous acid are created by DC currents or uni-polar
pulses. The second method is the disruption of the protein on the
surfaces of pathogens by an electrical current. Personally, I think that
the frequency of current application and bidirectional electrical
currents can enhance the disruption caused by an electrical current but
it is not entirely necessary except when the electrical current without
the frequency/ bidirectional enhancement is too weak by itself to damage
the pathogen. Here is some interesting info I have found about magnetic
pulsers. 

From 
http://www.horsemagneticpulser.com/HMPTechview.html:

Technical Overview - Pulsed Magnetic Field Therapy
 
Many phenomena occur when animal tissue is exposed to rapidly changing
magnetic fields.  Which phenomenon is most observed depends on the
strength, rate of change of, and duration of change of the magnetic
field.  For example, electrical eddy currents will be produced in the
interstitial body fluids.  As discussed below charge density waves can
be expected to disrupt and destroy microbe functions.  The electrical
eddy currents,  when they enter the range of 100 microamperes per square
centimeter to 200,000 microamperes per square centimeter,  begin to
biologically deactivate all manner of viruses and microbes as discussed
in U.S. Patent # 5,188,738.  Another useful and interesting phenomenon
that can be caused by a repeatedly pulsed magnetic field is
dedifferentiation of fibroblast cells and some types of precursor
endothelial cell types into embryonic looking cells.  This
dedifferentiation of fibroblast cells is very important for tissue
regeneration and repair.  Before we discuss tissue repair and
regeneration any further, let us look at killing of infections in the
tissue using charge density waves.  It is well known that tissue repair
cannot effectively occur until infection is under control.  Whenever an
animal suffers a traumatic physical injury there is both macroscopic and
microscopic tissue damage.  Viruses and bacteria that are normally in
the blood flow now have new places in the damaged tissue to set up shop
and develop into an infection region.
 
Charge Density Wave Therapy -  Charge density waves are a moving
compaction or rarefaction of the normal equilibrium ion density in an
ionic medium.  For example your body's blood plasma and interstitial
fluids are a salt solution similar to ocean water.  The blood plasma and
interstitial fluids are full of all kinds of positive and negative ions
(H+,  Na+, K+, Cl-, Mg++, Ca++, HCO2-, OH-, etc.).  By applying a
rapidly changing electric field to the boundary layer of the salt
solution, i.e. your dead skin layer or bone/flesh interface, etc.,
moving compaction and moving rarefaction waves (charge density waves) in
the salt solution can be generated.  In our case or situation the
rapidly changing electric field at the body tissue interfaces is
generated by the rapidly changing magnetic field from the HORSE MAGNETIC
PULSER treatment coil.  These charge density waves can have rather
strong electric fields associated with the interface between the moving
charge density wave front and the undisturbed ionic medium through which
the waves are propagating.  The strength of these electric fields is
determined by how fast the magnetic field polarity flip/reversal is
completed and the overall magnitude of the magnetic field.   If the
electric field is strong enough it can interact with protein molecules
in the blood, in interstitial spaces, on virus surfaces, and on bacteria
surfaces and rearrange their structures so they no longer perform their
normal function.  In general proteins in living systems are strings of
amino acids that are folded up into specific configurations and are held
in these configurations by cross liking hydrogen bonds and short range
Van der Waals forces.  These hydrogen bonds are very weak chemical
bonds.  The proteins have various net positive and net negatively
charged regions on them.  The electric field of the moving charge
density wave interacts with these net charge regions and puts forces on
these protein molecules.  
 
If the forces are high enough hydrogen bonds can be broken and the
protein rearranges itself.  In general the size, shape, and specific
charge configuration of a specific protein is crucial to the proper
functioning of that protein.  As a charge density wave 

FW: CSZapper

2010-05-04 Thread Norton, Steve

I haven't looked much into the zappers since they apparently won't help
with a problem I am trying to solve - a parasite problem in one of my
cats that has been resistant to numerous medications. But I have been
looking into magnetic pulsers since they may be able to solve the
problem. I think much of the info I have found about magnetic pulsers is
applicable to zappers, zillas, etc. 
It seems to me that there are generally two methods that zappers,
zillas, Beck blood electrification and Rife machines use to kill
pathogens. The first is the method Ode has posted about where sodium
hydroxide and hypochlorous acid are created by DC currents or uni-polar
pulses. The second method is the disruption of the protein on the
surfaces of pathogens by an electrical current. Personally, I think that
the frequency of current application and bidirectional electrical
currents can enhance the disruption caused by an electrical current but
it is not entirely necessary except when the electrical current without
the frequency/ bidirectional enhancement is too weak by itself to damage
the pathogen. Here is some interesting info I have found about magnetic
pulsers. 

From 
http://www.horsemagneticpulser.com/HMPTechview.html:

Technical Overview - Pulsed Magnetic Field Therapy
 
Many phenomena occur when animal tissue is exposed to rapidly changing
magnetic fields.  Which phenomenon is most observed depends on the
strength, rate of change of, and duration of change of the magnetic
field.  For example, electrical eddy currents will be produced in the
interstitial body fluids.  As discussed below charge density waves can
be expected to disrupt and destroy microbe functions.  The electrical
eddy currents,  when they enter the range of 100 microamperes per square
centimeter to 200,000 microamperes per square centimeter,  begin to
biologically deactivate all manner of viruses and microbes as discussed
in U.S. Patent # 5,188,738.  Another useful and interesting phenomenon
that can be caused by a repeatedly pulsed magnetic field is
dedifferentiation of fibroblast cells and some types of precursor
endothelial cell types into embryonic looking cells.  This
dedifferentiation of fibroblast cells is very important for tissue
regeneration and repair.  Before we discuss tissue repair and
regeneration any further, let us look at killing of infections in the
tissue using charge density waves.  It is well known that tissue repair
cannot effectively occur until infection is under control.  Whenever an
animal suffers a traumatic physical injury there is both macroscopic and
microscopic tissue damage.  Viruses and bacteria that are normally in
the blood flow now have new places in the damaged tissue to set up shop
and develop into an infection region.
 
Charge Density Wave Therapy -  Charge density waves are a moving
compaction or rarefaction of the normal equilibrium ion density in an
ionic medium.  For example your body's blood plasma and interstitial
fluids are a salt solution similar to ocean water.  The blood plasma and
interstitial fluids are full of all kinds of positive and negative ions
(H+,  Na+, K+, Cl-, Mg++, Ca++, HCO2-, OH-, etc.).  By applying a
rapidly changing electric field to the boundary layer of the salt
solution, i.e. your dead skin layer or bone/flesh interface, etc.,
moving compaction and moving rarefaction waves (charge density waves) in
the salt solution can be generated.  In our case or situation the
rapidly changing electric field at the body tissue interfaces is
generated by the rapidly changing magnetic field from the HORSE MAGNETIC
PULSER treatment coil.  These charge density waves can have rather
strong electric fields associated with the interface between the moving
charge density wave front and the undisturbed ionic medium through which
the waves are propagating.  The strength of these electric fields is
determined by how fast the magnetic field polarity flip/reversal is
completed and the overall magnitude of the magnetic field.   If the
electric field is strong enough it can interact with protein molecules
in the blood, in interstitial spaces, on virus surfaces, and on bacteria
surfaces and rearrange their structures so they no longer perform their
normal function.  In general proteins in living systems are strings of
amino acids that are folded up into specific configurations and are held
in these configurations by cross liking hydrogen bonds and short range
Van der Waals forces.  These hydrogen bonds are very weak chemical
bonds.  The proteins have various net positive and net negatively
charged regions on them.  The electric field of the moving charge
density wave interacts with these net charge regions and puts forces on
these protein molecules.  
 
If the forces are high enough hydrogen bonds can be broken and the
protein rearranges itself.  In general the size, shape, and specific
charge configuration of a specific protein is crucial to the proper
functioning of that protein.  As a charge density wave 

Re: CSWound care....using colloidal silver for it

2010-05-04 Thread Jason R Eaton
Hi Del:

That clay should be fine.  Using 100% CS with clay is also fine.  I was just 
demonstrating that a superior formulation could be made, specifically to PH 
balance the end product.

That is one of the effects of the clay.  Therapeutic grade clays are 
homeostatic.  When possible, the use therefore results in a restoration of 
balance.  Another potential effect of a quality clay is the uranium (extremely 
low level radiation hormesis) and trace amounts of minerals such as Thorium.

In some cases (such as gram negative bacteria in the colon), the clay's action 
of the sorption of the toxic byproducts that bacteria naturally produces is 
more effective than any substance designed to kill pathogenic organisms.

What makes a highly complex colloid the better bet is that sometimes it 
doesn't matter if you kill the pathogenic organisms responsible for an 
infection, because conditions remain that support the reinfection of the 
tissue.  In my complex colloids, everything that the tissue needs to rebuild is 
included in the colloid...  everything accept activated oxygen (which is why we 
employ ozone with tough situations).  Also, you never know if you have embedded 
metal from the injury.  CS won't pull out splinters (even microscopic ones can 
cause irritation that results in reinfection), but clay often will (even if you 
can't see them).

Kind Regards,

Jason

  - Original Message - 
  From: Del 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:48 PM
  Subject: Re: CSWound careusing colloidal silver for it


  Hi Jason:

  Good to see you back on this list again, it's been a while.
  This post is timely for me, I have an infection on the knuckle of my thumb 
that will not go away.
  I scored it with a hand saw while sawing up some downed tree limbs in my back 
yard.
  It bled quite a bit, and I first washed it out then poured on some DMSO and 
CS, and some Cayenne Tincture, then bandaged it with a Band-Aid and Bacitracin.
  It healed over, but apparently an infection persisted under the skin, which 
now has a lump on the knuckle.
  I tried applying CS and DMSO several times a day, but not much success.
  So I switched to DMSO and SSKI (potassium iodide) with better results, but 
still not eliminated.
  It so happens that my wife is using pure calcium bentonite as a facial.
  It's this one here:
  http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=SW-1001
  Would this work for my thumb as described in your email?
  And what do you mean by 50% of whatever ionic complex.
  Why not just use 100% CS with the clay?
  I assume the clay acts to draw out the infection and the CS kills it?

  Del
- Original Message - 
From: Jason R Eaton 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSWound careusing colloidal silver for it



I use 50% colloidal silver at about 10PPM, with 50% of whatever ionic 
complex I want to use, in order to hydrate healing grade therapeutic clay.  
Now, not all bentonites will work with serious wound-care.  To ensure success, 
a healing grade clay must be used.



Re: CSWound care....using colloidal silver for it

2010-05-04 Thread Jason R Eaton

...oh and by the way:  Thank you and hello.  I though I would drop back in and 
see how the silver listers have been doing.  :o)

~ Jason
  - Original Message - 
  From: Del 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:48 PM
  Subject: Re: CSWound careusing colloidal silver for it


  Hi Jason:

  Good to see you back on this list again, it's been a while.
  This post is timely for me, I have an infection on the knuckle of my thumb 
that will not go away.
  I scored it with a hand saw while sawing up some downed tree limbs in my back 
yard.
  It bled quite a bit, and I first washed it out then poured on some DMSO and 
CS, and some Cayenne Tincture, then bandaged it with a Band-Aid and Bacitracin.
  It healed over, but apparently an infection persisted under the skin, which 
now has a lump on the knuckle.
  I tried applying CS and DMSO several times a day, but not much success.
  So I switched to DMSO and SSKI (potassium iodide) with better results, but 
still not eliminated.
  It so happens that my wife is using pure calcium bentonite as a facial.
  It's this one here:
  http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=SW-1001
  Would this work for my thumb as described in your email?
  And what do you mean by 50% of whatever ionic complex.
  Why not just use 100% CS with the clay?
  I assume the clay acts to draw out the infection and the CS kills it?

  Del
- Original Message - 
From: Jason R Eaton 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSWound careusing colloidal silver for it



I use 50% colloidal silver at about 10PPM, with 50% of whatever ionic 
complex I want to use, in order to hydrate healing grade therapeutic clay.  
Now, not all bentonites will work with serious wound-care.  To ensure success, 
a healing grade clay must be used.



Re: CSWound care....using colloidal silver for it

2010-05-04 Thread needling around
You can also try Yunnan Bai (Pai) Yao.  In acupuncture school a colleague had a 
patient add this to a salve the doctor had given during the waiting time before 
amputation.  The amputation never happened the wound healed. 
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Garrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:35 AM
  Subject: CSWound careusing colloidal silver for it


  Hi all,

  I might not be able to get them to try it out but.
  I know an elderly couple and the man has a wound on his shin that will not 
heal
  He had a skin cancer removed from there
  He is diabetic so poor circulation to his limbs
  What is the best way to keep the colloidal silver on the wound?
  A good bandage that you keep wet with CS?

  This guy is 92 years old and served on our (USA) bomber crews in WW2 in the 
Pacific
  He was kind of a boxing champ in the military. He showed me some photos of 
him from in the boxing ring. He worked mostly in industrial bakeries during his 
working life

  Thanks
  Garrick




RE: CSTyndall cone...or lack of?

2010-05-04 Thread Neville Munn

OK, I'll tackle this from another angle and see if this prompts a response.

 

I'll start with what Marshall said earlier, and I'm discussing the use of a 
650nm red laser operating at 1mW here.

 

Apparently Tyndall in a yellow solution signifies particles of around 50nm 
{correct me if I'm wrong Marshall} so what would one observe if using a 750nm 
laser, or an 850nm laser, or a 1000nm laser for observation of particles in 
solution, assuming that those particles present ARE around that 50nm range?  
Would there be NO change to Tyndall?  Stonger Tyndall?  Weaker Tyndall?  Praps 
NO Tyndall even?

 

Do the varying operating wavelengths in different lasers alter any 
characteristics of that laser when used for particle detection in solution?

 

N.

 


From: one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:08:01 +1030
Subject: CSTyndall cone...or lack of?



Well, apart from a couple of comments suggesting a possible lack of particles 
in solution {which is not applicable I might add} it would appear nobody has an 
explanation, or has ever experienced my little quandary with lasers?
 
Praps one of the more 'knowledgable' folk among us who are into experimentation 
and/or research {gurus g} may wish to pick the ball up and run with it by 
getting hold of a red laser of 1mW and run the batteries down and see if they 
get a similar occurrance, although, if my issue happens with an El Cheapo 
freebie laser I can't see why it wouldn't do the same thing with my more 
expensive ones, lasers are lasers.  They either operate, or they don't...DO 
THEY?
 
It's fine to assume that battery power falling below *some?* threshold may 
affect the operational function of a laser, nevertheless it doesn't afford a 
suitable explanation as to what one would expect to observe in such an 
eventuallity when making observations of colloids in liquids?
 
At this stage I've gotta be thinking the use of lasers for determining pretty 
much *anything* with solutions is questionable...[battery reserve dependant!]  
That could be a trap for young players I suspect.
 
Guess I'll just have to wait til some batteries have drained in one of my other 
more expensive lasers and do some more observations to find out.  BUT, it still 
won't give me an explanation as to WHY the light fails to backscatter off 
particles as it passes through that liquid?
 
How about this then...
 
What if I were to suggest that if battery power falls below a specific 
operational threshold it may alter the wavelength and if particles are smaller 
than that wavelength then the light may pass *straight through* the liquid but 
the particles FAIL to backscatter that light?
 
N.



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