Re: CS>pederson's silver

2010-08-17 Thread j petras
Ode:So, basically, Petersen's claim that his product is neither an ionic nor 
colloidal form of silver - or a mix of the two, is without merit and doesn't 
hold up to science...right?
John

--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Jim Holmes  wrote:

From: Jim Holmes 
Subject: Re: CS>pederson's silver
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 7:50 PM

A few moments of his video gave me that intuition, before any data was offered  
Strange. 



On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:





  This guy is calling brown pigs blue cows in a herd of goats dressed to look 
like chickens.

Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS.







Ode







At 10:35 AM 8/16/2010 -0600, you wrote:


Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed by Dr. 
Gordon Pederson at 
http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/?


Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it?

Leo






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Re: CS>MMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread Sunny
Renee, thank you for this.. I just kept saying, this person makes total sense.. 
I really like your seeing both sides, for that is my way... Thank you.

smiles
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From: Renee 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 7:51:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>MMS email received today

 
There's a big controversy over the safety of MMS as used by Jim Humble.  There 
is an MMS list and we have a chemist on it, who says that the vomiting and 
diarrhea that comes from taking MMS the way Jim says is actually from chlorine 
poisoning rather than overload of die-off.  He advocates (and uses) a 5% 
strength of sodium chlorite rather than the 28% MMS.  

 
There are those that have followed Jim's protocol and claim they've gotten 
their 
normal lives back after years of illness, and those that say "he saved my life" 
and so they are vehement against the chemist's gentler, safer protocol.  Though 
he doesn't belong to the list, Jim came on to debate Tom and wound up looking 
bad (as in he could only defend himself by repeating 'I've given this to 
thousands of people and therefor it is safe').
 
Then there are those like me who go--if I had something really serious I was 
trying to kill I'd use Jim's (new) protocol--which, by the way, he changed from 
his original protocol because he finally had to admit, without actually 
admitting, that he did not understand the chemistry of sodium chlorite, nor 
what 
it does in the body, nor how long it is actually IN the body--of a few drops 
every few hours.  BUT--for anything less serious I would certainly use the much 
safer 5% method the chemist recommends.  As he says--it does the same thing as 
Jim's method, it just takes longer.  

 
There are situations where you don't mind it taking longer and then there are 
situations where you want it to be gone NOW.  So I feel there is room for both. 
 
Jim, on the other hand, really hates anyone who tries to say his protocols 
aren't THE end to all illnesses.
 
I've been using MMS since the web first heard about it, as MMS.  Sodium 
chlorite, of course, has been used for decades before Jim brought it to public 
attention, with his own 'discovered' method.  

 
So you pretty much have to read both sides and choose for yourself.  Sodium 
chlorite as MMS has always been a product of extremes.  It does one thing for 
this person and the exact opposite for the next person, in every body response 
reported from MMS users.  I've been on 2 MMS lists (one now defunct) for at 
least 3 years now and have 'seen it all'.   MMS is an amazing thing, but it is 
MEDICINE, and should be handled with safety.  Jim doesn't believe that there is 
anything at all unsafe about it.  I know differently, but Jim refuses to 
acknowledge that.  
 
Samala,
Renee
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Hi there, I've been seeing this on the MMS list.  Project Greenlife are 
recalling MMS due to FDA 'pressure'/advice.   It is on their website

http://www.projectgreenlife.com 

They no longer sell MMS according to their site.


  

Re: CS>MMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread Renee
There's a big controversy over the safety of MMS as used by Jim Humble. 
There is an MMS list and we have a chemist on it, who says that the vomiting
and diarrhea that comes from taking MMS the way Jim says is actually from
chlorine poisoning rather than overload of die-off.  He advocates (and uses)
a 5% strength of sodium chlorite rather than the 28% MMS.  

There are those that have followed Jim's protocol and claim they've gotten
their normal lives back after years of illness, and those that say "he saved
my life" and so they are vehement against the chemist's gentler, safer
protocol.  Though he doesn't belong to the list, Jim came on to debate Tom
and wound up looking bad (as in he could only defend himself by repeating 'I
ve given this to thousands of people and therefor it is safe').

Then there are those like me who go--if I had something really serious I was
trying to kill I'd use Jim's (new) protocol--which, by the way, he changed
from his original protocol because he finally had to admit, without actually
admitting, that he did not understand the chemistry of sodium chlorite, nor
what it does in the body, nor how long it is actually IN the body--of a few
drops every few hours.  BUT--for anything less serious I would certainly use
the much safer 5% method the chemist recommends.  As he says--it does the
same thing as Jim's method, it just takes longer.  

There are situations where you don't mind it taking longer and then there
are situations where you want it to be gone NOW.  So I feel there is room
for both.  Jim, on the other hand, really hates anyone who tries to say his
protocols aren't THE end to all illnesses.

I've been using MMS since the web first heard about it, as MMS.  Sodium
chlorite, of course, has been used for decades before Jim brought it to
public attention, with his own 'discovered' method.  

So you pretty much have to read both sides and choose for yourself.  Sodium
chlorite as MMS has always been a product of extremes.  It does one thing
for this person and the exact opposite for the next person, in every body
response reported from MMS users.  I've been on 2 MMS lists (one now
defunct) for at least 3 years now and have 'seen it all'.   MMS is an
amazing thing, but it is MEDICINE, and should be handled with safety.  Jim
doesn't believe that there is anything at all unsafe about it.  I know
differently, but Jim refuses to acknowledge that.  

Samala,
Renee
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
Hi there, I've been seeing this on the MMS list.  Project Greenlife are
recalling MMS due to FDA 'pressure'/advice.   It is on their website


http://www.projectgreenlife.com 


They no longer sell MMS according to their site.

Re: CS>pederson's silver

2010-08-17 Thread Jim Holmes
A few moments of his video gave me that intuition, before any data was
offered  Strange.



On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

>
>
>  This guy is calling brown pigs blue cows in a herd of goats dressed to
> look like chickens.
> Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS.
>
>
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 10:35 AM 8/16/2010 -0600, you wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed by
>> Dr. Gordon Pederson at <
>> http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/
>> >
>> http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/
>> ?
>> Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it?
>> Leo
>>
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Re: CS>pederson's silver

2010-08-17 Thread Ode Coyote



  This guy is calling brown pigs blue cows in a herd of goats dressed to 
look like chickens.

Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS.



Ode



At 10:35 AM 8/16/2010 -0600, you wrote:
Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed by 
Dr. Gordon Pederson at 
http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/?

Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it?
Leo



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CS>FDA and MMS

2010-08-17 Thread Sunny
The FDA have a notice on their site about MMS.  It is not very informative, 
just 
stating that they have received reports about nausea and vomiting and low blood 
pressure from dehydration.   This is the result of several 'reports' received 
by 
the FDA,.


http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm220747.htm
 
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Re: CS>MMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread Sunny
Hi there, I've been seeing this on the MMS list.  Project Greenlife are 
recalling MMS due to FDA 'pressure'/advice.   It is on their website

http://www.projectgreenlife.com 

They no longer sell MMS according to their site.

I have used and still do use MMS.  This article offers another side of the MMS 
argument.   I don't want it to be dangerous.. and I must check out all material 
I can... as we all should.

http://www.sott.net/signs/list_by_category/7-Health-Wellness?page=5


http://www.sott.net/articles/show/213275-MMS-Miracle-Mineral-Solution-or-Trojan-Horse-Your-Body-and-DNA-Decide
 


Humble responded to this article..

and this is an article on the church that Jim Humble belongs to.. of which he 
is 
an ordained Bishop...

http://www.originalchurch.org/apostolic-succession/apostolic-succession.htm

I am confused... and also concerned...

At least the only thing they've pulled against CS is the agryia [not spelt 
right?] and that's only after excess..and all the naysayers haven't much to say 
other than it doesn't work... 

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From: Marshall Dudley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 10:31:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS>MMS email received today

If the FDA is requiring a recall, then it must work too well.

Marshall

Pam Wanveer wrote:
> Hi, I received this email today.  Has anyone gotten one of these and/or have 
>any
> insight?  I guess this is off topic, sorry.
> Thanks, Pam
> 
> 
>> 
>> URGENT: MMS Product Recall Notice
>> 
>> Dear Customer,
>> 
>> You are receiving this email because our records indicate you may have 
>>purchased a product called "MMS" from our company at some time in the past.
>> 
>> Following discussion with FDA officials, Project GreenLife is effecting an 
>>immediate voluntary recall of its sodium chlorite solution product labeled 
>>"MMS 
>>Professional - Miracle Mineral Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops".
>> 
>> Questions and answers on voluntary recall of Project GreenLife's sodium 
>>chlorite product:
>> 
>> Q. What products are affected by this recall?
>> 
>> A. Sodium chlorite solution, labeled as "MMS Professional - Miracle Mineral 
>>Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops" distributed by PGL 
>>International, 
>>LLC.  This product comes in a 4 oz green plastic bottle..  This recall is for 
>>all lot numbers.
>> 
>> Q. Why was this product recalled?
>> 
>> A. PGL International, LLC is initiating this voluntary recall because of 
>> safety 
>>concerns raised by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in regards to 
>>chlorine 
>>dioxide.  As a precautionary measure, the company is recalling all sodium 
>>chlorite product, effective August 13, 2010.
>> 
>> Q. What should I do if I resell or have ever resold this product?
>> 
>> A. Quit selling this product and inform anyone you have sold this product to 
>> in 
>>the past by sending them a copy of this recall communication..
>> 
>> Q. What should I do if I have some of this product?
>> 
>> A. The FDA recommends that consumers stop using this product.  Further 
>>distribution or use of any remaining product should cease immediately..  If 
>>you 
>>have any unused product, you may seal the container and return it to the 
>>address 
>>provided below.  Shipping account information will be provided upon request.  
>>PGL will work with all customers to make them whole.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or comments, please email
> rec...@projectgreenlife.com
>> .
>> 
>> PGL International, LLC
>> 2533 N Carson St Ste 1991
>> Carson City, NV 89706
>> www.projectgreenlife.com
>> TOLL FREE PHONE: 888.349.9428
>> 
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CS>drug companies accused of conning the public

2010-08-17 Thread Marshall Dudley

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7950243/Drug-companies-accused-of-conning-the-public.html

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Re: CS>MMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread Renee
Oh crap!  Sorry Mike.  I wasn't thinking.  I saw a post where someone
said--where is a good place to buy MMS and I deleted it, and the next one
mentioned about GL not selling so I thought I'd offer up my stuff.  It
probably wasn't even the same list, I just wasn't paying attention.  Rats.

Sorry.

Samala,
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And next time Renee will remember to *ask* me first before posting a
fer-sale item! 
 

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #690

2010-08-17 Thread Garnet_LDN
Just a story about how not secure your data is on the Internet. We 
cleaned out an office for a
custom golf club mfg that had gone under in the Dot Gone Tech Wreck, 
they owed us money
for contract programming and their check bounced so they offered to give 
us what was left in

the office in the way of computers and furniture.

Well in one of the filing cabinets was a book box full of people credit 
card numbers. Now that
would not happen these days since security laws require that all but the 
last four numbers be
blacked out but . . . . why were they printing them out in the first 
place, and it was suppose to

be a secure site with all the badges.

I burned the whole box.

Janet

Melly Bag wrote:

Thank you Dee and others for replying to my question on distillers.
 
Yes, i got a recall letter.  I am pretty annoyed that they keep my  
email address/info even if i just purchased one 4 oz bottle of liquid 
MMS. I wonder if they gave the list of clients to the FDA as well.
 
Melly


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//* wrote:



From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com

Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #690
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 10:38 AM




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Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1

2010-08-17 Thread Garrick
Thanks much for the info

To my way of thinking chlorides might displace iodine in the thyroid.
Fluorides are known to do so. That's why fluoridated water is bad...one
reason at least






On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:32 PM, needling around wrote:

>  It was 15+ years ago.  If I remember correctly I started feeling really
> bad.  Don't remember the specifics.  Holistic practitioner had me bring in
> the supplements I was taking and suggested I stop the Concen-trace because
> he thought it was chloride poisoning.  I stopped it and within a few days
> started feeling better.
>
> I'm not saying it is a bad product.  Just watch how much you take.  For me
> the chloride built up faster than the other minerals and became toxic.
> PT
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Garrick 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:17 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1
>
> This is made by same people as concentrace. Same item
> *
> What was the chloride problem?*
>
> garrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM, needling around 
> wrote:
>
>>  You might want to be mindful of the chloride.  It caused me problems
>> some years ago when I was using a product called Concen-Trace.
>> PT
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Garrick 
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:18 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1
>>
>> I use magnesium oil and magnesium citrate
>>
>> I also use this trace mineral supplement that is ancient sea salt with the
>> sodium removed. It has a decent amount of Magnesium
>>
>> http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU385/ItemDetail?n=0  (made by Trace
>> Minerals Research)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


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Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1

2010-08-17 Thread needling around
It was 15+ years ago.  If I remember correctly I started feeling really bad.  
Don't remember the specifics.  Holistic practitioner had me bring in the 
supplements I was taking and suggested I stop the Concen-trace because he 
thought it was chloride poisoning.  I stopped it and within a few days started 
feeling better.

I'm not saying it is a bad product.  Just watch how much you take.  For me the 
chloride built up faster than the other minerals and became toxic.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Garrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1


  This is made by same people as concentrace. Same item

  What was the chloride problem?

  garrick







  On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM, needling around  
wrote:

You might want to be mindful of the chloride.  It caused me problems some 
years ago when I was using a product called Concen-Trace.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Garrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:18 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1


  I use magnesium oil and magnesium citrate

  I also use this trace mineral supplement that is ancient sea salt with 
the sodium removed. It has a decent amount of Magnesium

  http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU385/ItemDetail?n=0  (made by Trace 
Minerals Research)








Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1

2010-08-17 Thread Garrick
This is made by same people as concentrace. Same item
*
What was the chloride problem?*

garrick






On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM, needling around wrote:

>  You might want to be mindful of the chloride.  It caused me problems some
> years ago when I was using a product called Concen-Trace.
> PT
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Garrick 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:18 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1
>
> I use magnesium oil and magnesium citrate
>
> I also use this trace mineral supplement that is ancient sea salt with the
> sodium removed. It has a decent amount of Magnesium
>
> http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU385/ItemDetail?n=0  (made by Trace
> Minerals Research)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1

2010-08-17 Thread needling around
You might want to be mindful of the chloride.  It caused me problems some years 
ago when I was using a product called Concen-Trace.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Garrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:18 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1


  I use magnesium oil and magnesium citrate

  I also use this trace mineral supplement that is ancient sea salt with the 
sodium removed. It has a decent amount of Magnesium

  http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU385/ItemDetail?n=0  (made by Trace 
Minerals Research)






  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Garnet_LDN  wrote:

Some very compelling evidence to support the need for more Magnesium.

Heart attacks deaths are much higher in areas where the water is soft and
Mg is low relative to Ca.


Janet


http://www.enerex.ca/articles/calcium_to_magnesium_ratio.htm

"The traditional ratio of approximately 2 parts calcium to 1 part magnesium 
needs to be upgraded
to increase magnesium intake in view of the overwhelming beneficial role of 
magnesium.  The
ideal ratio for most people's needs is an equal ratio of calcium and 
magnesium."


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Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1

2010-08-17 Thread Garrick
I use magnesium oil and magnesium citrate

I also use this trace mineral supplement that is ancient sea salt with the
sodium removed. It has a decent amount of Magnesium

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU385/ItemDetail?n=0  (made by Trace
Minerals Research)





On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Garnet_LDN wrote:

> Some very compelling evidence to support the need for more Magnesium.
>
> Heart attacks deaths are much higher in areas where the water is soft and
> Mg is low relative to Ca.
>
>
> Janet
>
>
> http://www.enerex.ca/articles/calcium_to_magnesium_ratio.htm
>
> "The traditional ratio of approximately 2 parts calcium to 1 part magnesium
> needs to be upgraded
> to increase magnesium intake in view of the overwhelming beneficial role of
> magnesium.  The
> ideal ratio for most people's needs is an equal ratio of calcium and
> magnesium."
>
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CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #690

2010-08-17 Thread Melly Bag
Thank you Dee and others for replying to my question on distillers.
 
Yes, i got a recall letter.  I am pretty annoyed that they keep my  email 
address/info even if i just purchased one 4 oz bottle of liquid MMS. I wonder 
if they gave the list of clients to the FDA as well.
 
Melly

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Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #690
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 10:38 AM



Re: CS>MMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread M. G. Devour
And next time Renee will remember to *ask* me first before posting a 
fer-sale item! 

Be well,

Mike D.


> Well, I still sell it.  I'm too small to be noticed, plus I don't have a
> web site.  It's just word of mouth.
> 
> It's $10 for a 4 ounce bottle of MMS, and an extra empty bottle for your
> activator.
> 
> It's $7 actual shipping for express mail.
> 
> Samala,
> Renee 
> 
> 

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Re: CS>MMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread Renee
Well, I still sell it.  I'm too small to be noticed, plus I don't have a web
site.  It's just word of mouth.

It's $10 for a 4 ounce bottle of MMS, and an extra empty bottle for your
activator.

It's $7 actual shipping for express mail.

Samala,
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Re: CS>MMS Where is the best place to get some ??

2010-08-17 Thread ZZekelink



Re: CS>MMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread craehow...@juno.com
Pam Wanveer wrote:
>> Hi, I received this email today.  Has anyone gotten one of these and/or 
>> have any
>> insight?  I guess this is off topic, sorry.
>> Thanks, Pam
>>
Reference your message regarding the MMS Recall... I just spoke with an 
individual at Global Light regarding this issue; their comments was that 
another distributer was visited by the FDA and strongly encouraged to put out a 
volunteer recall warning to anyone they may have sold MMS to...  he also 
indicated they no longer post this product on the web page after next week may  
 not even carry it.So that is the jest of the recall.
 
 
R
>>>
>>> URGENT: MMS Product Recall Notice
>>>
>>> Dear Customer,
>>>
>>> You are receiving this email because our records indicate you may have 
>>> purchased a product called "MMS" from our company at some time in 
the 
>>> past.
>>>
>>> Following discussion with FDA

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Re: CS>MMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread needling around

So hold onto whatever you have... and maybe even buy a little more!!!
PT

- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: CS>MMS email received today



If the FDA is requiring a recall, then it must work too well.

Marshall

Pam Wanveer wrote:
Hi, I received this email today.  Has anyone gotten one of these and/or 
have any

insight?  I guess this is off topic, sorry.
Thanks, Pam




URGENT: MMS Product Recall Notice

Dear Customer,

You are receiving this email because our records indicate you may have 
purchased a product called "MMS" from our company at some time in the 
past.


Following discussion with FDA officials, Project GreenLife is effecting 
an immediate voluntary recall of its sodium chlorite solution product 
labeled "MMS Professional - Miracle Mineral Solution - Premium Water 
Purification Drops".


Questions and answers on voluntary recall of Project GreenLife's sodium 
chlorite product:


Q. What products are affected by this recall?

A. Sodium chlorite solution, labeled as "MMS Professional - Miracle 
Mineral Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops" distributed by PGL 
International, LLC.  This product comes in a 4 oz green plastic bottle.. 
This recall is for all lot numbers.


Q. Why was this product recalled?

A. PGL International, LLC is initiating this voluntary recall because of 
safety concerns raised by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 
regards to chlorine dioxide.  As a precautionary measure, the company is 
recalling all sodium chlorite product, effective August 13, 2010.


Q. What should I do if I resell or have ever resold this product?

A. Quit selling this product and inform anyone you have sold this 
product to in the past by sending them a copy of this recall 
communication..


Q. What should I do if I have some of this product?

A. The FDA recommends that consumers stop using this product.  Further 
distribution or use of any remaining product should cease immediately.. 
If you have any unused product, you may seal the container and return it 
to the address provided below.  Shipping account information will be 
provided upon request.  PGL will work with all customers to make them 
whole.


If you have any questions or comments, please email

rec...@projectgreenlife.com

.

PGL International, LLC
2533 N Carson St Ste 1991
Carson City, NV 89706
www.projectgreenlife.com
TOLL FREE PHONE: 888.349.9428


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Re: CS>MMS email received today

2010-08-17 Thread Marshall Dudley

If the FDA is requiring a recall, then it must work too well.

Marshall

Pam Wanveer wrote:
Hi, I received this email today.  Has anyone gotten one of these 
and/or have any

insight?  I guess this is off topic, sorry.
Thanks, Pam




URGENT: MMS Product Recall Notice

Dear Customer,

You are receiving this email because our records indicate you may 
have purchased a product called "MMS" from our company at some time 
in the past.


Following discussion with FDA officials, Project GreenLife is 
effecting an immediate voluntary recall of its sodium chlorite 
solution product labeled "MMS Professional - Miracle Mineral Solution 
- Premium Water Purification Drops".


Questions and answers on voluntary recall of Project GreenLife's 
sodium chlorite product:


Q. What products are affected by this recall?

A. Sodium chlorite solution, labeled as "MMS Professional - Miracle 
Mineral Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops" distributed by 
PGL International, LLC.  This product comes in a 4 oz green plastic 
bottle..  This recall is for all lot numbers.


Q. Why was this product recalled?

A. PGL International, LLC is initiating this voluntary recall because 
of safety concerns raised by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 
regards to chlorine dioxide.  As a precautionary measure, the company 
is recalling all sodium chlorite product, effective August 13, 2010.


Q. What should I do if I resell or have ever resold this product?

A. Quit selling this product and inform anyone you have sold this 
product to in the past by sending them a copy of this recall 
communication..


Q. What should I do if I have some of this product?

A. The FDA recommends that consumers stop using this product.  
Further distribution or use of any remaining product should cease 
immediately..  If you have any unused product, you may seal the 
container and return it to the address provided below.  Shipping 
account information will be provided upon request.  PGL will work 
with all customers to make them whole.


If you have any questions or comments, please email

rec...@projectgreenlife.com

.

PGL International, LLC
2533 N Carson St Ste 1991
Carson City, NV 89706
www.projectgreenlife.com
TOLL FREE PHONE: 888.349.9428


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Re: CS>diarrhoea and bentonite clay

2010-08-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
This (DE) doesn't work for my dog unfortunately PT.  I also gave him one 
teaspoon of clay once and he couldn't go!  This was before all this trouble and 
I couldn't let this happen this time because of the furunculosis being so 
painful--hence the question.  I will maybe try the tip of the knife thing mixed 
with water and put on his food.  Thanks for the reply.  dee

On 17 Aug 2010, at 13:34, needling around wrote:

> My experience is that is a very individual thing.  I have used just the tip 
> of a steak knife and also had to take Triphala with it because such a small 
> amount in a glass of water bound me up.
> 
> I have found the Diatomaceous Earth to be pretty normalizing without the 
> binding of the clay.
> PT
> 
> 
> -


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Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1

2010-08-17 Thread Jane MacRoss

In Australia we need more Magnesium than 1:1 with Calcium

Jane

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From: "Garnet_LDN" 
To: ; "Silver List" 


Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:33 AM
Subject: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1



Some very compelling evidence to support the need for more Magnesium.

Heart attacks deaths are much higher in areas where the water is soft and
Mg is low relative to Ca.


Janet


http://www.enerex.ca/articles/calcium_to_magnesium_ratio.htm

"The traditional ratio of approximately 2 parts calcium to 1 part
magnesium needs to be upgraded
to increase magnesium intake in view of the overwhelming beneficial role
of magnesium.  The
ideal ratio for most people's needs is an equal ratio of calcium and
magnesium."


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Re: CS>Ideal Calcium to Magnesium Ratio is 1:1

2010-08-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Good article.  dee

On 17 Aug 2010, at 02:33, Garnet_LDN wrote:

> Some very compelling evidence to support the need for more Magnesium.
> 
> Heart attacks deaths are much higher in areas where the water is soft and
> Mg is low relative to Ca.
> 
> 
> Janet
> 
> 
> http://www.enerex.ca/articles/calcium_to_magnesium_ratio.htm
> 
> "


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Re: CS>diarrhoea and bentonite clay

2010-08-17 Thread needling around
My experience is that is a very individual thing.  I have used just the tip 
of a steak knife and also had to take Triphala with it because such a small 
amount in a glass of water bound me up.


I have found the Diatomaceous Earth to be pretty normalizing without the 
binding of the clay.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: "Dorothy Fitzpatrick" 

To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:44 AM
Subject: CS>diarrhoea and bentonite clay


I have a dog which is on medication called cyclosporin for anal furunculosis 
and it is giving him diarrhoea.  He needs to be fairly 'soft' because of the 
furunculosis but too runny is not good either.  Can anyone tell me what 
proportions of clay to mix with water or CS to put in his food to firm him 
up a bit?  Many thanks.  dee


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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #687

2010-08-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Hi Melly, I have an OdeV counter top distiller which is great--for me that is.  
 It makes about 3 and a half litres in five and a half hours.  I use a TDS 
meter to test the water and it always reads 000 after just one distilling.  
This makes perfect clear CS every time so I don't feel the need for anything 
else at all.  I don't use any filters at all although my tap water comes 
through a sort of filter.  My tap water if tested on a TDS meter reads 263 
before it is distilled and 000 afterwards so that is good enough for me.

I also make my liposomal Vit C with the water from it and also hydrogen 
peroxide and get perfect results every time.  I am in the UK but I believe the 
Love distiller is a comparable one in the US.  dee

On 17 Aug 2010, at 00:03, Melly Bag wrote:

> Dee,
>  
> What type and brand of distiller do you use?  I've been thinking of buying 
> one, just couldn't figure out which brand to buy.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> melly
> 


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CS>diarrhoea and bentonite clay

2010-08-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I have a dog which is on medication called cyclosporin for anal furunculosis 
and it is giving him diarrhoea.  He needs to be fairly 'soft' because of the 
furunculosis but too runny is not good either.  Can anyone tell me what 
proportions of clay to mix with water or CS to put in his food to firm him up a 
bit?  Many thanks.  dee

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