Re: CSCS rectally-pets-saving lives
On 29 Aug 2010 at 10:38, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSCS rectally-pets-saving live snipped I did a search of the Silver List Archives for 'parvo brooks' and among other hits found this one below which is a re-post By Hanneke of Brooks post. [ Instead of lactated Ringers solution, my sister, farmer, in emergencies, used a rough and ready rehydrating solution of 1 teaspoon each of sugar, salt and bicarb in a litre warm water. OK Tony http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg123084.html Re: CSCS for Dog Parvo...Brooks Bradley's protocol. Hope this helps Hanneke Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:29:37 -0700 PARVOVIRUS Parvo protocol Brooks Bradley Dear Dog-Loving List Members. A very recent incident involving a long-time friend of mine, has re- kindled my interest in posting a protocol which has proved to be quite efficacious (as an ancillary protocol) in treating young puppies exposed to Parvo. The original protocol was discovered quite serendipitously, by my wife, some 18 years ago. It utilizes the simple expedient of introducing balanced fluid electrolytes (Lactated Ringer's or Gatorade) into the system of puppies undergoing the severe dehydration normally associated with this disorder. Since puppies, almost universally, refuse to drink when this condition manifests, the alternative my wife chose was to administer Gatorade, via a rectal-entry (enema). She used Gatorade, undiluted, warmed to body temperature and directly out of the container. The first subject was a male German Sheppard puppy, 6 weeks of age. She administered approximately 4 ounces per treatment, every 6 hoursday and nightfor four days. The pup lived, to become one of our dearest family members and enlivened our lives immensely for the next 15 years. His two litter-mates died after receiving conventional hospitalization, antibiotics, sulfa, etc. Since we had, already, spent about $800. on their unsuccessful treatment and this pup was closer to morbidity than the other two she theorized the situation to be, essentially, hopeless and opted for this unconventional (at that time) treatment. During the ensuing years, we have passed this protocol on to dozens of our friends and associates with essentially universally positive results. This protocol buys enough time and delays renal shut-down long enough for ancillary treatments to be effective. In the case of our pup, NO OTHER protocol was involved. This brings me to the case at-hand. My friend had a young puppy who was not responding to any of the conventional treatments; after being treated by a large-animal veterinarian who had made a 60 mile drive to his remote ranch in northern Nevada. Later, after a lengthy telephone conversation, with the vet stating that the pup would probably expire before he could return, my friend's wife called me, for solace more than treatment advice. During our telephone conversation I suggested Ringer's Lactate (which they keep on hand for normal cattle treatments) 75% by volume, mixed with Colloidal Silver, 25% by volume; administered as an enema - essentially following my wife's 18 year old protocol. The puppy was able to stand, weakly, within 12 hours and could move about with some stability within 24 hours and was fully functional within 72 hours following the initial treatment. I believe knowledge of this proven, successful, protocol may be of value to anyone confronted with a parvo circumstance, in puppies most especially. Some parvo strains are exceptionally virulent and very rapid-acting, thus greatly limiting the response-time window for effective treatment. I hope this information may be of value to some of you. Sincerely. Brooks Bradley. At 10:29 AM 22/07/2009, you wrote: Yes, I know of a woman that saved her pups with Parvo using this method, but using eyedroppers of water (or CS mixed with pedialyte could be substituted) via their behinds frequently. I'm sure an enema would work better to keep them fully hydrated. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSanti-microbial???
OK thanks Tom, You are absolutely correct. I found the ticket that came with the sample flakes and it is Sodium Chlorite as NaClO2 80.11% 62.5 g /litre will yield 5% sodium chlorite solution which is the safer one to use. Great. OK, Tony. On 29 Aug 2010 at 19:39, Tom Poast wrote about : Subject : RE: CSanti-microbial??? Hello Tony, Most sodium chlorite flakes or powder are 80%. Are you sure yours is 28%? To make a 5% solution from 80% powder of flakes you would put 62.5 grams of the flakes in a measuring container and add enough water to bring the total volume up to 1000 ml. This will end up being a 6.25%, by weight, solution, but since the flakes are only 80% pure it is actually a 5% sodium chlorite solution. Tom -Original Message- From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSanti-microbial??? Hi Tom, I have a small jar of Sodium chlorite flakes. This is a dry crystalline product. I seem to remember that is is assayed at 28%. How do I make a 5% solution from this? Say I want 1 litre of 5% NaClO 1 litre = 1000g and 5% x 1000 = 5/100 x 1000 = 50 so I need 50 g of actual NaClO in 1 litre water to have a 5% solution. Yes? Now the Sod Chlorite flakes only has 28% NaClO . ie There is 0.28 g of NaClO per 1 gram of flakes So to get 50g NaClO I need 50/0.28 = 179 gram of flakes ie 180 g flakes in 1 litre water = 5% solution Or is being too simple ? Ok, rusty Tony On 28 Aug 2010 at 14:36, Tom Poast wrote about : Subject : RE: CSanti-microbial??? Hello PT, Another option is to use a sodium chlorite solution. An excellent mouthwash can be made by adding 16 ml of 5% sodium chlorite to 500 ml of water. After brushing, rinse your toothbrush off with water then dip it into the mouthwash solution and let it air dry. After brushing and rinsing, take a mouthful of the mouth wash and swish for 30 - 60 seconds, then spit it out. You can add a drop of cinnamon or mint if you want a more zestful taste. This solution is technically called chlorous acid, but its PH is actual neutral or slightly alkaline. When the solution encounters acids in the mouth, or on your toothbrush, trace amounts of chlorine dioxide are released that the pathogens are killed off. The nice thing about this is that activation only occurs as needed. If there are no germs, no chlorine dioxide is produced.This reduces oxidative stress, but I am not sure that is much of an issue inside the mouth. If you don´t want to make your own solution, commercial products are available. You would search on mouthwash with sodium chlorite in it. Tom From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 9:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSanti-microbial??? Hi, This is a question for Steve and some of the other chemists on the list... I have read about and been advised to keep my toothbrushes in an antimicrobial between use. The general advise is something like Listerine but I don't really like that so I have used peroxide for a long time. I recently switched to CS.Evidently toothbrushes are *seething* (mild hyperbole) with microbes that just keep reinfecting the mouth and the mouth is one place for focal infections that keep the immune system challenged. My question is, If I mix CS and 3% H2O2 will that increase the germ fighting capability of the liquid or create a whole new chemical that will do something totally different and perhaps not desirable? Thanks for any guidance you can give. PT PS: another good way to sanitize the toothbrush is to put it in the dishwasher every few days when you run it up. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRectal CS
LIST, The generation of HCl in the stomach is due not only to food intake. The secretion can be also activated by hormonal and neural factors. Smells, thoughts and views of foods can release HlC; the generation is directed via histamine release, so that any histamine release, not connected to food intake, will stimulate HlC release. Additionally, the least acidic pH still in the range of 6-6.5 and ionic unbound silver should react with the (high pK) HCl acid even at such a small concentration. However, is there real evidence that the anti-microbial properties of silver diminish greatly due to the loss of colloidal or ionic character? I have conducted numerous challenge microbial tests on a gel containing colloidal silver and free chlorides and the results compare well against plain colloidal silver. In fact there is no way of distinguishing one from the other. Cheers From: carolG Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRectal CS PT, Thanks for the great laugh, but I truly agree that wisdom surely comes from here! carol From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 10:41:02 AM Subject: Re: CSRectal CS I'm so glad we have you hard science types on this list. I would be lost, dead or blue! Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Garnet_LDN garnet_...@austin.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: CSRectal CS I believe the idea put forth by a number of people is that because the stomach secretes Hydrochloric Acid in response to food that when CS is consumed this will combine with the HCl to form the compound Silver Chloride. Problem with this theory is that HCL is only secreted in response to food and is only there when there is food in the stomach. If you take your CS on an empty stomach there is no reason for HCL to be secreted. No one has demonstrated the formation of Silver Chloride in response to CS ingestion, in the stomach -- this is only a theory and one that does not hold up under conditions where there is no Hydrochloric Acid present. There should be a lot more blue people around if this theory were true since Silver compounds bioaccumulate. Janet Sandy wrote: Hi PT, There was a gentleman on here a while back saying the most optimal way to take CS was rectally. He said something about CS having some sort of reaction with stomach acid causing it to be less effective. He had a website explaining it but I no longer have the link...sorry. Regards, Sandy --- On *Sun, 8/29/10, needling around /ptf2...@bellsouth.net/* wrote: From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: CSRectal CS To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 8:38 AM I would imagine this would be similar to rectal ozone insulfation(?) :-) The CS would be directly absorbed into the blood stream through the rectal walls. Ode has a book on CS in which a woman talks about having a CS IV drip to help 'cure' the MS she was struggling with. It was evidently quite successful. I thought one of the benefits of CS was that it took out the bad bugs while leaving the good bugs alone. Just my 2 cents. PT - Original Message - *From:* Alan Jones /mc/compose?to=alanmjo...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com /mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:31 AM *Subject:* Re: CSRectal CS Do you have a link? I searched and couldn't find it. Doesn't this run the risk of killing the good gut flora? Alan On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:59 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com /mc/compose?to=aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just saw a you tube video with a guy saying he gets the best results with people using rectal CS. He said he was giving 25-30ml rectally. Any experience with that? I am just so interested in all the ways that might make CS better (H2O2, cayenne, rectal, etc.). Thanks, ~David
CSColloidal silver works on Vampires
Last night on the True Blood episode, my wife told me that a vampire was repelled by spraying colloidal silver into his eyes. Funny, I thought it was werewolves that were affected by silver. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSContradicting info on CS and H2O2?
This has been covered already. When added to freshly brewed CS the Tyndall increases and apparent quality goes down, when added to CS that has been aged for 48 hours the Tyndall goes down and quality goes up. I THINK the difference between the two is that newly brewed CS has a high level of silver hydroxide that the aged does not, and that H2O2 converts this hydroxide to oxide immediately and thus exceeds the oxide's solubility level and it precipitates out. But that is an unproven theory. Marshall David AuBuchon wrote: I can't reconcile these two statements about CS and H2O2. They both make comments about how the Tyndall will change with the addition of H2O2, but they seem to contradict. Can anyone reconcile these for me? From: http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2archives.html This image was taken by using a laser pen to examine the tyndall effect of a freshly brewed colloidal silver batch, just after the addition of two drops of 35% H2O2. Prior to the addition, the colloidal silver was crystal clear with a very faint tyndall. Upon the addition of the hydrogen peroxide, which begins to work immediately to atomize and ionize minute silver particles, there was a vast increase in the tyndall effect, although in normal light *the solution remained crystal clear*. One could easily observe slightly spiralling clouds of minute particles by using the laser pen as the hydrogen peroxide came in contact with the *silver particles*. This batch was a lower quality batch with some larger ( but invisible ) particles. When the same process is done with a highly ionic batch, without the larger-sized silver particles, the tyndall effect would have increased temporarily, then completely dissapeared as the minute particles were ionized by the hydrogen peroxide. From: http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#HP When H2O2 is added to EIS (one or two drops per glass of EIS), it will be noted that there is an immediate clearing effect. The Tyndall (what you see if you shine a laser pointer though the liquid) will become very faint as well. If the ppm of the EIS is sufficiently high (25 to 30 ppm) a white cloudy precipitate may form as well. There are a number of reactions that occur. H2O2 is normally thought of as an oxidizer, but it can act as a reducer as well. Also silver is considered a catalyst for H2O2, but in actuality gets directly involved in the reactions. The H2O2 reacts with the silver particles, producing ionic silver, a combination of silver hydroxide and silver oxide. This makes the large particles disappear, reducing the tyndall. However H2O2 also reacts with the silver oxide and silver hydroxide producing a 2 atom colloid of silver plus oxygen (and water in the case of silver hydroxide). Over time this 2 atom colloidal particle can end up being converted back to silver oxide and silver hydroxide, and so forth. The final result is a mixture of ionic silver (hydroxide and oxide) and very small colloidal particles. Thus if you add H2O2 to freshly made EIS, you can sometimes see the oxygen bubble off, and the tyndall may change significantly. But more importantly, the particulate portion of the EIS will go from being medium or large particles to many more very small particles, and the particle content will increase from a typical 5-15% to around 30-50%. If you have a strong tyndall from large particles, it will decrease, and if you have a weak or no tyndall it will increase with the formation of the 2 atom particles. This enhances absorption, as well as effectiveness. Note that it is recommended to let the EIS sit for 5 or more minutes after adding the H2O2 to let it stabilize. Also some experts recommend letting EIS age for 2 or more days before adding the H2O2, and experiments by me indicate a more consistant effect if this is done. For some images of the effect H2O2 has on silver particles ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHydrogen Peroxide, Nasal Sprayer Garden Applications By Bill Munro
There is another BIG difference. I think I read some time back that the surface area of the lungs is something like that of a football field. The back of the throat is maybe 10 square inches. Also the back of the throat is continually washed with every swallow. Now if you have a substance that is released into the blood stream as a toxic substance in the lungs when broken down by H2O2, a heck of a lot of it can be released from that much surface area, but almost none from a washed 10 square inches. Mind you that the body makes and uses H2O2 in the lungs to clear them of organic material. But the body is intelligent and only uses minute amounts of it, so no more is released into the blood stream at one time than it can deal with. That is especially true of things like tobacco tar. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: A bit of foam in the back of the throat won't kill you like a bit of foam deep down in the lungs. The difference is penetration..depth. Ode At 07:37 AM 8/28/2010 -0400, you wrote: Mike Thank you so much for sending the link. I have never been a smoker but my husband was a heavy smoker for many years so I may have 2nd hand smoke. He has been smoke free for about 30 years now. I don't see much difference from spraying hydrogen peroxide down the back of the throat and nebulizing which is why I asked. I wanted to use hydrogen peroxide in the horse nebulizer on a young horse we have that has had numerous snots/colds but think maybe I will put that on the back burner. I think I will stick with the DMSO and CS. We used strait CS and it didn't make things better. I try to apply the alternative to both ourselves and our animals. CS is a major staple in our household. Dianne From: mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:33:32 -0500 Subject: RE: CSHydrogen Peroxide, Nasal Sprayer Garden Applications By Bill Munro Dianne wrote: Would the hydrogen peroxide work in a nebulizer for getting it into the lungs? Be cautious about this, please, Dianne. The following post by Jason Eaton back in 2001 reveals that H2O2 can cause unpredictable and dangerous results when nebulized. Please read it carefully: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg36593.html I one experiment a person who smoked had a severe reaction. Other cautions are mentioned. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal silver works on Vampires
In this series many of the vampire legends don't count. Like garlic doesn't bother them (just smells bad to them), they can touch religious relics, etc. And silver burns them, so they can be 'captured' with silver chains. I thought it was pretty funny with the CS spray. After she sprays him, and he s screaming because it went into his eyes, she says Colloidal Silver, overpriced and available at your local health food store or something to that effect. Lol Sookie asks him--what did that to you, and he says silver particles in water. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Last night on the True Blood episode, my wife told me that a vampire was repelled by spraying colloidal silver into his eyes. Funny, I thought it was werewolves that were affected by silver.
Re: CSRectal CS
Hahahahahathank's for the great laugh and the info both are appreciated :) Debbie From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 10:34:49 PM Subject: Re: CSRectal CS Hi Deb, I used Primal Defense powder...difficult to mix in distilled water (basically it doesn't dissolve much at all) but it gave me wicked die-off, I remember. I used a 60 cc plastic syringe fitted with a flexible catheter which I got from a colonics supply place. I almost did a headstand to get it to run in and stay in. (This is not the kind of thing to do with any onlookers around unless you've got an exceptionally good rapport with them. Inquisitive pets would be of no help either.) Anyway, once I was sure it was in and wouldn't just run back out, I went and lied down immediately for the night. The next morning the overwhelming tsunami wave of depression hit me like a brick wallAhh...the feeling of success?! Peter - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: Re: CSRectal CS
Re: CSContradicting info on CS and H2O2?
Question on H2O2 drops: Say I wanted to ass 1 drop of 35% H2O2 to 8 oz of CS. Is this is the same as putting about 11 or 12 drops as 3% H2O2 (i.e. 35 divided by 3)? Also, does it need to be food grade, or is the stuff form walgreen's okay? Thanks, ~David
Re: CSColloidal silver works on Vampires
Vampires have always been subject to silver. Were-wolves are trickier, but can easily be controlled and then killed by forcing them to watch Gilligan's Island re-runs. Few people are that cruel though, so for the most part, were-wolves are safe. Steve --- On Mon, 8/30/10, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Subject: CSColloidal silver works on Vampires To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 10:23 AM Last night on the True Blood episode, my wife told me that a vampire was repelled by spraying colloidal silver into his eyes. Funny, I thought it was werewolves that were affected by silver. Marshall
Re: CSContradicting info on CS and H2O2?
Here David, let me fix that for you! GRIN (typo police...) Question on H2O2 drops: Say I wanted to **ADD** 1 drop of 35% H2O2 to 8 oz of CS. Is this the same as putting about 11 or 12 drops as 3% H2O2 (i.e. 35 divided by 3)? Also, does it need to be food grade, or is the stuff form walgreen's okay? Yes, that would be right, David; 11.667 drops of 3% to deliver as much H2O2 as 1 drop of 35%. The only concern with drug store stuff would be the stabilizers often added to it. Some brands don't even have them, so check the labels and see if you get lucky. They'd be mentioned if they're there. Even with stabilizers, however, consider the dilutions you're talking about: At 600 drops per ounce (a round number) 12 drops of 3% H2O2 solution is already diluted (in 8 ounces of water) to 2.5 ppm. That means the H2O2 contained in that 3% solution would end up diluted to 350 parts per billion in your final solution. Unless the stabilizers are present in higher concentrations than the peroxide is, then the above number is a good upper limit on their possible concentration. So I tend to doubt you'd be talking about any serious toxicity with the kinds of chemicals that would be in a consumer product approved for topical use. Of course, I could be wrong, so proceed at your own risk. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSContradicting info on CS and H2O2?
I was wondering about that :-) PT - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:37 PM Subject: Re: CSContradicting info on CS and H2O2? Here David, let me fix that for you! GRIN (typo police...) Question on H2O2 drops: Say I wanted to **ADD** 1 drop of 35% H2O2 to 8 oz of CS. Is this the same as putting about 11 or 12 drops as 3% H2O2 (i.e. 35 divided by 3)? Also, does it need to be food grade, or is the stuff form walgreen's okay? Yes, that would be right, David; 11.667 drops of 3% to deliver as much H2O2 as 1 drop of 35%. The only concern with drug store stuff would be the stabilizers often added to it. Some brands don't even have them, so check the labels and see if you get lucky. They'd be mentioned if they're there. Even with stabilizers, however, consider the dilutions you're talking about: At 600 drops per ounce (a round number) 12 drops of 3% H2O2 solution is already diluted (in 8 ounces of water) to 2.5 ppm. That means the H2O2 contained in that 3% solution would end up diluted to 350 parts per billion in your final solution. Unless the stabilizers are present in higher concentrations than the peroxide is, then the above number is a good upper limit on their possible concentration. So I tend to doubt you'd be talking about any serious toxicity with the kinds of chemicals that would be in a consumer product approved for topical use. Of course, I could be wrong, so proceed at your own risk. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSContradicting info on CS and H2O2?
Oooh good catch Mike. Good thing those keys are right next to each other. Otherwise I would have to explain! An interesting note, I have two bottles of 3% peroxide from walgreens. One is 16 oz and one is 32oz. The design of the labels is different on each. The 32 oz one says Active ingredient: Hydrogen peroxide (stabilized) 3% The 16 oz one says the same thing but DOES NOT have the word stabilized. Who knows if there is other stuff actually in it or not. ~David On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Here David, let me fix that for you! GRIN (typo police...) Question on H2O2 drops: . That means the H2O2 contained in that 3% solution would end up diluted to 350 parts per billion in your final solution.
CSHighest Total ppm?
We know the maximum ppm of IONIC silver in pure water is about 26 ppm. And we know 'true' colloidal silvers (e.g. Mesosilver) have a PARTICULATE ppm up to 32 ppm. But whats the maximum TOTAL ppm that can be achieved with some level of stability in pure water? Would it be the sum of these two, or is it a case of 'one or the other'? I guess I'm raising the question of 'saturation points' and 'suspension points' (if there is such a thing), and how they interact. And I'm thinking of a batch thats made purely by electolysis. One problem in answering this question myself is that I rely on silver-colloids.com. for various details. But silver-colloids uses commercially purchased or privately submitted batches for testing, and these batches tend to be clear or pale yellow, and hence only about 15ppm TOTAL . No-one ever submits a really dirty batch for testing do they? David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHighest Total ppm?
I'm also curious about the number 26PPM (silver oxide and silverhydroxide). Frank Key says 13.3 is the saturation point of ions: What is the highest concentration of ionic silver that pure water will keep in solution? If no other contamination anionshttp://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/definitions.html#anionare present, the maximum concentrationhttp://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/definitions.html#concentrationof silver ions http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/definitions.html#silver.ionthat pure water can hold at room temperature in an unsaturated solution http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/definitions.html#saturatedis 13.3 ppm. In practice, there is substantial dissolved CO *2* in the water which provides additional anions, so a higher concentration of silver ions is possible without saturation. ~David A. (the A is to differentiate between several David's on the list =P) On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote: We know the maximum ppm of IONIC silver in pure water is about 26 ppm. And we know 'true' colloidal silvers (e.g. Mesosilver) have a PARTICULATE ppm up to 32 ppm. But whats the maximum TOTAL ppm that can be achieved with some level of stability in pure water? Would it be the sum of these two, or is it a case of 'one or the other'? I guess I'm raising the question of 'saturation points' and 'suspension points' (if there is such a thing), and how they interact. And I'm thinking of a batch thats made purely by electolysis. One problem in answering this question myself is that I rely on silver-colloids.com. for various details. But silver-colloids uses commercially purchased or privately submitted batches for testing, and these batches tend to be clear or pale yellow, and hence only about 15ppm TOTAL . No-one ever submits a really dirty batch for testing do they? David
