Re: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol
Thanks Harold I’ll try it. Frank From: Harold MacDonald Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:17 AM To: Silver list Subject: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol After trying a few different ways to make Lipo-C,I settled on putting 3 tblspns of Soy Lecithin in one cup of DW and let it sit at room temp.until Lecithin was fully in solution.Then I put two[2] tspns of Ascorbic acid in 1/2 cup of DW plus one tspn of bicarb [1],let it fizz right down.If I see any sedimentation on the bottom,then I tweak it by adding a pinch of Vit.C.,if it fizzes then I add a bit more until no reaction.If the first pinch of C does nothing,then I add a pinch of bicarb,if it fizzes then I repeat the process until no reaction.I have found this to give me as close to 100% as you can hope for.In my last four brews I had two with very slight traces of Leci. floating on top.These seemed to be from larger sized granules. When I measure the Lecithin I do notice that the size of the granules do vary.If I had a precise scale I would try doing it by weight, just to see. Harold I use the jewellry cleaner from Harbour Freight now.
RE: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol
Harold, I actually tried this and found that no matter how much I added.my solution continued to fizz - can you give us an idea as to how much *may* be the appropriate amount to add before the fizzing stops? Lisa _ From: Harold MacDonald [mailto:har...@telus.net] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:17 AM To: Silver list Subject: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol After trying a few different ways to make Lipo-C,I settled on putting 3 tblspns of Soy Lecithin in one cup of DW and let it sit at room temp.until Lecithin was fully in solution.Then I put two[2] tspns of Ascorbic acid in 1/2 cup of DW plus one tspn of bicarb [1],let it fizz right down.If I see any sedimentation on the bottom,then I tweak it by adding a pinch of Vit.C.,if it fizzes then I add a bit more until no reaction.If the first pinch of C does nothing,then I add a pinch of bicarb,if it fizzes then I repeat the process until no reaction.I have found this to give me as close to 100% as you can hope for.In my last four brews I had two with very slight traces of Leci. floating on top.These seemed to be from larger sized granules. When I measure the Lecithin I do notice that the size of the granules do vary.If I had a precise scale I would try doing it by weight, just to see. Harold I use the jewellry cleaner from Harbour Freight now.
Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness
Sounds like Morgellons to me. CS has been show to be of some assist for this, and there are other protocols which use baths are helpful as well. I have read of curing it with MMS, but not sure if I have seen that confirmed. Marshall On 3/9/2011 11:29 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote: Talking about...Controversial Illness...anyone heard of a disease that feels like bugs crawling under ones skin...is this mold related? Someone suggested Lyme diseasehow mush cs do you take for it? In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:23:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, ja...@eytonsearth.org writes: Greetings, everyone: This subject always produces great confusion, and there really is no need for it. I ask that those interested in understanding how antimicrobial substances work in the gut read pages 249 - 259 of my book, most of which has been made available for free on Google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false The confusion is easily solved when contrasting the desireable population counts of good bacteria vs. the population counts of bad bacteria, and how quickly good bacteria repopulates in the large intestines, provided that the biological terrain has been restored. If one desires to hammer the large intestines in order to eradicate pathogenic organisms overgrowth, then colloidal silver, olive leaf extract (East Park Research), and a high quality healing clay can be used. In situations where there is a severe imbalance in the colon, a high quality probiotic can be used. Howver, one needs to use the probiotic not because these antimicrobial substances have wiped out the good organisms, but because there is a good chance that the imbalance in the digestive system has already depleted them. Those with fantastically functioning digestive systems experience no problems, due to the fact that repopulation of the good organisms occurs very quickly; and even more quickly as the undesireable organisms perish. If one wishes to ensure the delivery of active silver into the intestines, then mixing colloidal silver with clay is the best way to accomplish this. For those using CS for other conditions, as long as the digestive system is relatively healthy, there is no real reason to be concerned about the over-killing of good bacteria in the gut. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - *From:* Alan Jones mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 06:44 *Subject:* Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites My understanding is, the CS would kill the gut flora if it got in contact with it. But I believe the CS is absorbed before it gets that far in the digestive tract. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote: So does this mean that CS kills good bacteria in humans too? This seems to be a controversial subject. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites
Thanks for clearing that up for me! Scotty Have a great day! From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 7:07:34 AM Subject: Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites Not here it is not. First of all the notion of good and bad bacteria is flawed, most bacteria can be good or bad depending on where it is at, and whether it is in aerobic or anaerobic mode. CS tends to kill all bacteria regardless of whether it is aerobic or anaerobic. But it will only kill if it comes in contact with it, and if in a solid or semisolid matrix, its effectiveness is reduced to near 0. In normal human intestines it is restrained in movement, and has almost no effective kill. If you have dysentery then it is very effective. A win/win situation. If you have examined the droppings of bees you will find that their intestines contain near liquid goop. Thus CS would be very effective in killing bacteria there as well. Not a surprise once you think about it. Marshall On 3/7/2011 6:33 PM, Scotty wrote: So does this mean that CS kills good bacteria in humans too? This seems to be a controversial subject. Scotty Have a great day! From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:15:20 AM Subject: Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites I had this tested some years ago. The results were disastrous. However it was not sprayed, but instead feed in a feeder. I don't see any way you could spay them when in the cocoon stage, since the cells will be capped at that point. Although the caps are porous so that the pupa can get oxygen, I don't think any CS would be able to get in. What happened is that the CS killed the bacteria in the bee's gut required for their digestion. The hive ended up with masses of bees bloated with honey, who starved to death. Marshall On 3/7/2011 12:41 PM, nessie wrote: Hi gang: Does anyone know if c/s will kill Mason Bee mites if sprayed on them while they are in the cocoon stage? If the answer is yes, what strength c/s would be appropriate? Thanksnessie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness
Mystery skin disease reporta positive treatment for Morgellons? By Daisy Baleen Posted on Health and Healing @ Yahoogroups.com I have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten years. Recently, I discovered, quite by accident, something that is literally making it disappear from my BODY. As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to, over the years, I have experimented with various super baths, filling the tub with hot water and putting in things like lemons, baking soda, dish detergent, laundry detergent, alcohol, etcwell, one day about four months ago, I was filling the bath and I was pretty dirty from housecleaning so I put some Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach into the water, just a tad, because it really cleans the skin so good, and once I finish with the bath, I scrub it off with regular soap and a scrubby thing that is regularly disinfected. Anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and heard a crash that sounded like one of my cats getting into something. When I returned to the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so I got undressed and slid into the water for a soak. Everything seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the sight of a morgellons sufferers' lifetime: those black and grey specks MIGRATING OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY THE HUNDREDS FROM EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY!! And even as I saw that, I also noticed several large oblong things dissolving in the bottom of the tub. I picked one up, and it was an alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the bottle on the counter next to the tub was overturned, and about 25 of them had fallen into the water! They were the cause of the migration of all things Morgellon out of my skin in a fantastic migration for about an hour! Brown flecks, black specks, fibers, white patches of fibers drifted off the surface of my skin like No Problema, see ya later, something I had NEVER BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY OTHER TOPICAL AGENT. THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN MY BODY. The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of fibers are all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off to a research lab that has requested them. I am sending you my testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at least know some relief from the scourge of the skin. Dandelion the Flame Point Siamese must be credited with this miraculous discovery. He is only three years old, but he's a hero to his long-suffering Mommy! I've done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like CANCER and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally can only be a good thing, also; but it's the BATHS that made all the difference in the world for me. I also tried putting St. Johns Wort in the bath along with it, with even better results. And for some reason, using the Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach also helps facilitate the migration of the specks. God, I really hope this helps even one person as it has helped me. It has cleared up my symptoms so completely that I kept forgetting to post this information on the morgellons websites (Editor's note: The author of this article attributed the success of this treatment to the alfalfa tablets. However, it appears that the success came from the COMBINATION of Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe Bleach PLUS Alfalfa Tablets. ~~~ On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Sounds like Morgellons to me. CS has been show to be of some assist for this, and there are other protocols which use baths are helpful as well. I have read of curing it with MMS, but not sure if I have seen that confirmed. Marshall On 3/9/2011 11:29 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote: Talking about...Controversial Illness...anyone heard of a disease that feels like bugs crawling under ones skin...is this mold related? Someone suggested Lyme diseasehow mush cs do you take for it? In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:23:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, ja...@eytonsearth.org writes: Greetings, everyone: This subject always produces great confusion, and there really is no need for it. I ask that those interested in understanding how antimicrobial substances work in the gut read pages 249 - 259 of my book, most of which has been made available for free on Google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false The confusion is easily solved when contrasting the desireable population counts of good bacteria vs. the population counts of bad bacteria, and how quickly good bacteria repopulates in the large intestines, provided that the biological terrain has been restored. If one desires to hammer the large intestines in order to eradicate pathogenic
Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness
I think the salt/c protocol for lyme and coinfections may address morgellon's, if I remember properly. Their forum is here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/messages ~David
CSChronic Myleoprolific Blood Disease
Just got a message concerning my young cousin, she's in her 30's, 3 kids... and she has been given the above diagnosis and is getting shots to build up her blood so they can do further testing hopefully by the end of May. It said she will ultimately need surgery that will leave her unable to take care of her children. She is not willing to have surgery if it leaves her unable to care for her family, and she's open to alternative suggestions. I'm in shock, and haven't researched this yet so I know nothing about it, but thought I would throw this out there to see if any of y'all have any suggestions. I forwarded her the group address and some info on LDN, but my brain has frozen up on me at the moment. I'm also sending this separately to the Crock list, so I apologize in advance if you get this twice. Thanks in advance for your usual wonderful suggestions!! Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness
WOW! Gayla - Original Message - From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness Mystery skin disease reporta positive treatment for Morgellons? By Daisy Baleen Posted on Health and Healing @ Yahoogroups.com I have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten years. Recently, I discovered, quite by accident, something that is literally making it disappear from my BODY. As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to, over the years, I have experimented with various super baths, filling the tub with hot water and putting in things like lemons, baking soda, dish detergent, laundry detergent, alcohol, etcwell, one day about four months ago, I was filling the bath and I was pretty dirty from housecleaning so I put some Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach into the water, just a tad, because it really cleans the skin so good, and once I finish with the bath, I scrub it off with regular soap and a scrubby thing that is regularly disinfected. Anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and heard a crash that sounded like one of my cats getting into something. When I returned to the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so I got undressed and slid into the water for a soak. Everything seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the sight of a morgellons sufferers' lifetime: those black and grey specks MIGRATING OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY THE HUNDREDS FROM EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY!! And even as I saw that, I also noticed several large oblong things dissolving in the bottom of the tub. I picked one up, and it was an alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the bottle on the counter next to the tub was overturned, and about 25 of them had fallen into the water! They were the cause of the migration of all things Morgellon out of my skin in a fantastic migration for about an hour! Brown flecks, black specks, fibers, white patches of fibers drifted off the surface of my skin like No Problema, see ya later, something I had NEVER BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY OTHER TOPICAL AGENT. THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN MY BODY. The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of fibers are all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off to a research lab that has requested them. I am sending you my testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at least know some relief from the scourge of the skin. Dandelion the Flame Point Siamese must be credited with this miraculous discovery. He is only three years old, but he's a hero to his long-suffering Mommy! I've done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like CANCER and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally can only be a good thing, also; but it's the BATHS that made all the difference in the world for me. I also tried putting St. Johns Wort in the bath along with it, with even better results. And for some reason, using the Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe bleach also helps facilitate the migration of the specks. God, I really hope this helps even one person as it has helped me. It has cleared up my symptoms so completely that I kept forgetting to post this information on the morgellons websites (Editor's note: The author of this article attributed the success of this treatment to the alfalfa tablets. However, it appears that the success came from the COMBINATION of Sun powdered laundry detergent with colorsafe Bleach PLUS Alfalfa Tablets. ~~~ On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Sounds like Morgellons to me. CS has been show to be of some assist for this, and there are other protocols which use baths are helpful as well. I have read of curing it with MMS, but not sure if I have seen that confirmed. Marshall On 3/9/2011 11:29 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote: Talking about...Controversial Illness...anyone heard of a disease that feels like bugs crawling under ones skin...is this mold related? Someone suggested Lyme diseasehow mush cs do you take for it? In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:23:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, ja...@eytonsearth.org writes: Greetings, everyone: This subject always produces great confusion, and there really is no need for it. I ask that those interested in understanding how antimicrobial substances work in the gut read pages 249 - 259 of my book, most of which has been made available for free on Google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false The confusion is easily solved when contrasting the desireable population counts of good bacteria vs. the population counts of bad
Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness
I would say that it is probably Lyme. I had that same feeling and nothing helped until I killed the Lyme. Haven't had it since. Dave On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:29 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote: Talking about...Controversial Illness...anyone heard of a disease that feels like bugs crawling under ones skin...is this mold related? Someone suggested Lyme diseasehow mush cs do you take for it? In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:23:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, ja...@eytonsearth.org writes: Greetings, everyone: This subject always produces great confusion, and there really is no need for it. I ask that those interested in understanding how antimicrobial substances work in the gut read pages 249 - 259 of my book, most of which has been made available for free on Google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false The confusion is easily solved when contrasting the desireable population counts of good bacteria vs. the population counts of bad bacteria, and how quickly good bacteria repopulates in the large intestines, provided that the biological terrain has been restored. If one desires to hammer the large intestines in order to eradicate pathogenic organisms overgrowth, then colloidal silver, olive leaf extract (East Park Research), and a high quality healing clay can be used. In situations where there is a severe imbalance in the colon, a high quality probiotic can be used. Howver, one needs to use the probiotic not because these antimicrobial substances have wiped out the good organisms, but because there is a good chance that the imbalance in the digestive system has already depleted them. Those with fantastically functioning digestive systems experience no problems, due to the fact that repopulation of the good organisms occurs very quickly; and even more quickly as the undesireable organisms perish. If one wishes to ensure the delivery of active silver into the intestines, then mixing colloidal silver with clay is the best way to accomplish this. For those using CS for other conditions, as long as the digestive system is relatively healthy, there is no real reason to be concerned about the over-killing of good bacteria in the gut. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 06:44 *Subject:* Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites My understanding is, the CS would kill the gut flora if it got in contact with it. But I believe the CS is absorbed before it gets that far in the digestive tract. On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote: So does this mean that CS kills good bacteria in humans too? This seems to be a controversial subject. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)