Re: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol

2011-03-10 Thread Frank
Thanks Harold I’ll try it.
Frank

From: Harold MacDonald 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:17 AM
To: Silver list 
Subject: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol


After trying a few different ways to make Lipo-C,I settled on putting 3 tblspns 
of Soy Lecithin in one cup of DW and let it sit  at room temp.until Lecithin 
was fully in solution.Then I put two[2] tspns of Ascorbic acid in 1/2 cup of DW 
plus one tspn of bicarb [1],let it fizz right down.If I see any sedimentation 
on the bottom,then I tweak it by adding a pinch of Vit.C.,if it fizzes then I 
add a bit more until no reaction.If the first pinch of C does nothing,then I 
add a pinch of bicarb,if it fizzes then I repeat the process until no 
reaction.I have found this to give me as close to 100% as you can hope for.In 
my last four brews I had two with very slight traces of Leci. floating on 
top.These seemed to be from larger sized granules.
When I measure the Lecithin I do notice that the size of the granules do 
vary.If I had a precise scale I would try doing it by weight, just to see.

Harold
I use the jewellry cleaner from Harbour Freight now.

RE: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol

2011-03-10 Thread Lisa
Harold,

 

I actually tried this and found that no matter how much I added.my solution
continued to fizz - can you give us an idea as to how much *may* be the
appropriate amount to add before the fizzing stops?


Lisa

 

  _  

From: Harold MacDonald [mailto:har...@telus.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:17 AM
To: Silver list
Subject: CSCS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin protocol

 

 

After trying a few different ways to make Lipo-C,I settled on putting 3
tblspns of Soy Lecithin in one cup of DW and let it sit  at room temp.until
Lecithin was fully in solution.Then I put two[2] tspns of Ascorbic acid in
1/2 cup of DW plus one tspn of bicarb [1],let it fizz right down.If I see
any sedimentation on the bottom,then I tweak it by adding a pinch of
Vit.C.,if it fizzes then I add a bit more until no reaction.If the first
pinch of C does nothing,then I add a pinch of bicarb,if it fizzes then I
repeat the process until no reaction.I have found this to give me as close
to 100% as you can hope for.In my last four brews I had two with very slight
traces of Leci. floating on top.These seemed to be from larger sized
granules.

When I measure the Lecithin I do notice that the size of the granules do
vary.If I had a precise scale I would try doing it by weight, just to see.

 

Harold

I use the jewellry cleaner from Harbour Freight now.



Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness

2011-03-10 Thread Marshall
Sounds like Morgellons to me.  CS has been show to be of some assist for 
this, and there are other protocols which use baths are helpful as well. 
I have read of curing it with MMS, but not sure if I have seen that 
confirmed.


Marshall

On 3/9/2011 11:29 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote:

Talking about...Controversial Illness...anyone heard of a disease that
feels like bugs crawling under ones skin...is this mold related?   
Someone suggested Lyme diseasehow mush cs do you take for it?
In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:23:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
ja...@eytonsearth.org writes:


Greetings, everyone:
This subject always produces great confusion, and there really is
no need for it.
I ask that those interested in understanding how antimicrobial
substances work in the gut read pages  249 - 259 of my book, most
of which has been made available for free on Google books:

http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false
The confusion is easily solved when contrasting the desireable
population counts of good bacteria vs. the population counts of
bad bacteria, and how quickly good bacteria repopulates in the
large intestines, provided that the biological terrain has been
restored.
If one desires to hammer the large intestines in order to
eradicate pathogenic organisms overgrowth, then colloidal silver,
olive leaf extract (East Park Research), and a high quality
healing clay can be used.  In situations where there is a severe
imbalance in the colon, a high quality probiotic can be used. 
Howver, one needs to use the probiotic not because these

antimicrobial substances have wiped out the good organisms, but
because there is a good chance that the imbalance in the digestive
system has already depleted them.  Those with fantastically
functioning digestive systems experience no problems, due to the
fact that repopulation of the good organisms occurs very quickly;
and even more quickly as the undesireable organisms perish.
If one wishes to ensure the delivery of active silver into the
intestines, then mixing colloidal silver with clay is the best way
to accomplish this.
For those using CS for other conditions, as long as the digestive
system is relatively healthy, there is no real reason to be
concerned about the over-killing of good bacteria in the gut.
Kind Regards,
Jason
- Original Message -

*From:* Alan Jones mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 06:44
*Subject:* Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites

My understanding is, the CS would kill the gut flora if it got
in contact with it.

But I believe the CS is absorbed before it gets that far in
the digestive tract.


On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Scotty
scottie592...@yahoo.com mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote:

So does this mean that CS kills good bacteria in humans
too? This seems to be a controversial subject.


-- 
Alan Jones


The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved
to the States respectively, or to the people.  (Tenth
Amendment to the US Constitution)





Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites

2011-03-10 Thread Scotty
Thanks for clearing that up for me! 
Scotty
Have a great day!

 






From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 7:07:34 AM
Subject: Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites

Not here it is not.  First of all the notion of good and bad bacteria is 
flawed, most bacteria can be good or bad depending on where it is at, and 
whether it is in aerobic or anaerobic mode.  CS tends to kill all bacteria 
regardless of whether it is aerobic or anaerobic.  But it will only kill if 
it comes in contact with it, and if in a solid or semisolid matrix, its 
effectiveness is reduced to near 0.  In normal human intestines it is 
restrained in movement, and has almost no effective kill.  If you have 
dysentery then it is very effective.  A win/win situation.

If you have examined the droppings of bees you will find that their 
intestines contain near liquid goop. Thus CS would be very effective in 
killing bacteria there as well. Not a surprise once you think about it.

Marshall

On 3/7/2011 6:33 PM, Scotty wrote: 
So does this mean that CS kills good bacteria in humans   too? This 
seems to be a controversial subject. 
Scotty 
Have a great day!

 







From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon,   March 7, 2011 10:15:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites

I had this tested some years ago. The results were disastrous.  
However it was not sprayed, but instead feed in a feeder.  I don't 
see any way you could spay them when in the cocoon stage, since 
the 
cells will be capped at that point.  Although the caps are porous 
so 
that the pupa can get oxygen, I don't think any CS would be able 
to 
get in.

What happened is that the CS killed the bacteria in the bee's gut 
required for their digestion.  The hive ended up with masses of 
bees 
bloated with honey, who starved to death.

Marshall

On 3/7/2011 12:41 PM, nessie wrote:
 Hi gang:
Does anyone know if c/s will kill Mason Bee mites if 
sprayed
  on them while they are in the cocoon  stage?
If the answer is yes, what strength c/s would be 
appropriate?
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Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness

2011-03-10 Thread Smitty
Mystery skin disease reporta positive treatment for Morgellons?
By Daisy Baleen

Posted on Health and Healing @ Yahoogroups.com

I
have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten years.

Recently, I
discovered, quite by accident, something that is literally 
making it
disappear from my BODY.

As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to,
over the years, I have 
experimented with various super baths,
filling the tub with hot water 
and putting in things like lemons,
baking soda, dish detergent, laundry 
detergent, alcohol, etcwell,
one day about four months ago, I was 
filling the bath and I was
pretty dirty from housecleaning so I put some 
Sun powdered laundry
detergent with colorsafe bleach into the water, 
just a tad, because
it really cleans the skin so good, and once I finish 
with the bath, I
scrub it off with regular soap and a scrubby thing that 
is regularly
disinfected.

Anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and
heard a crash that 
sounded like one of my cats getting into
something. When I returned to 
the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so
I got undressed and slid into the 
water for a soak.

Everything
seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the sight 
of a
morgellons sufferers' lifetime: those black and grey specks 
MIGRATING
OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY THE HUNDREDS 
FROM
EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY!!

And even as I saw that, I also noticed
several large oblong things 
dissolving in the bottom of the tub. I
picked one up, and it was an 
alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the
bottle on the counter next to the tub 
was overturned, and about 25 of
them had fallen into the water!

They were the cause of the migration
of all things Morgellon out of my 
skin in a fantastic migration for
about an hour! Brown flecks, black 
specks, fibers, white patches of
fibers drifted off the surface of my 
skin like No Problema, see ya
later, something I had NEVER BEEN ABLE TO 
ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY OTHER
TOPICAL AGENT.

THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN
MY BODY.

The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of
fibers are 
all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off
to a research 
lab that has requested them.

I am sending you my
testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at 
least know some
relief from the scourge of the skin.

Dandelion the Flame Point
Siamese must be credited with this miraculous 
discovery. He is only
three years old, but he's a hero to his 
long-suffering Mommy!

I've
done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it
creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like
CANCER 
and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally
can only be 
a good thing, also; but it's the BATHS that made all the
difference in 
the world for me.

I also tried putting St. Johns Wort
in the bath along with it, with even 
better results. And for some
reason, using the Sun powdered laundry 
detergent with colorsafe
bleach also helps facilitate the migration of 
the specks.

God, I
really hope this helps even one person as it has helped me.

It has
cleared up my symptoms so completely that I kept forgetting to 
post
this information on the morgellons websites

(Editor's note: The
author of this article attributed the success of 
this treatment to
the alfalfa tablets. However, it appears that the 
success came from
the COMBINATION of Sun powdered laundry detergent with 
colorsafe
Bleach PLUS Alfalfa Tablets.

~~~
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
 Sounds like Morgellons to me.  CS has been show to be of some assist for
 this, and there are other protocols which use baths are helpful as well. I
 have read of curing it with MMS, but not sure if I have seen that confirmed.

 Marshall

 On 3/9/2011 11:29 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote:

 Talking about...Controversial Illness...anyone heard of a disease that
 feels like bugs crawling under ones skin...is this mold related?   Someone
 suggested Lyme diseasehow mush cs do you take for it?

 In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:23:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
 ja...@eytonsearth.org writes:

 Greetings, everyone:

 This subject always produces great confusion, and there really is no need
 for it.

 I ask that those interested in understanding how antimicrobial substances
 work in the gut read pages  249 - 259 of my book, most of which has been
 made available for free on Google books:

 http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false

 The confusion is easily solved when contrasting the desireable population
 counts of good bacteria vs. the population counts of bad bacteria, and how
 quickly good bacteria repopulates in the large intestines, provided that the
 biological terrain has been restored.

 If one desires to hammer the large intestines in order to eradicate
 pathogenic 

Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness

2011-03-10 Thread David AuBuchon
I think the salt/c protocol for lyme and coinfections may address
morgellon's, if I remember properly.  Their forum is here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/messages

~David


CSChronic Myleoprolific Blood Disease

2011-03-10 Thread Ruth Bertella
Just got a message concerning my young cousin, she's in her 30's, 3 kids...
and she has been given the above diagnosis and is getting shots to build up
her blood so they can do further testing hopefully by the end of May.   It
said she will ultimately need surgery that will leave her unable to take
care of her children.  She is not willing to have surgery if it leaves her
unable to care for her family, and she's open to alternative suggestions.
I'm in shock, and haven't researched this yet so I know nothing about it,
but thought I would throw this out there to see if any of y'all have any
suggestions.  I forwarded her the group address and some info on LDN, but my
brain has frozen up on me at the moment.  I'm also sending this separately
to the Crock list, so I apologize in advance if you get this twice.

Thanks in advance for your usual wonderful suggestions!!

Ruth



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Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness

2011-03-10 Thread Gayla Roberts

WOW!
Gayla
- Original Message - 
From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness


Mystery skin disease reporta positive treatment for Morgellons?
By Daisy Baleen

Posted on Health and Healing @ Yahoogroups.com

I
have been Morgellons sufferer for over ten years.

Recently, I
discovered, quite by accident, something that is literally 
making it
disappear from my BODY.

As I am sure fellow sufferers can relate to,
over the years, I have 
experimented with various super baths,
filling the tub with hot water 
and putting in things like lemons,
baking soda, dish detergent, laundry 
detergent, alcohol, etcwell,
one day about four months ago, I was 
filling the bath and I was
pretty dirty from housecleaning so I put some 
Sun powdered laundry
detergent with colorsafe bleach into the water, 
just a tad, because
it really cleans the skin so good, and once I finish 
with the bath, I
scrub it off with regular soap and a scrubby thing that 
is regularly
disinfected.

Anyway, I left the bathroom for a minute or two and
heard a crash that 
sounded like one of my cats getting into
something. When I returned to 
the bathroom, nothing seemed amiss, so
I got undressed and slid into the 
water for a soak.

Everything
seemed normal until the bubbles parted, and I got the sight 
of a
morgellons sufferers' lifetime: those black and grey specks 
MIGRATING
OUT OF MY SKIN AS FAST AS THEY COULD IN DROVES BY THE HUNDREDS 
FROM
EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MY BODY!!

And even as I saw that, I also noticed
several large oblong things 
dissolving in the bottom of the tub. I
picked one up, and it was an 
alfalfa tablet. Then I noticed the
bottle on the counter next to the tub 
was overturned, and about 25 of
them had fallen into the water!

They were the cause of the migration
of all things Morgellon out of my 
skin in a fantastic migration for
about an hour! Brown flecks, black 
specks, fibers, white patches of
fibers drifted off the surface of my 
skin like No Problema, see ya
later, something I had NEVER BEEN ABLE TO 
ACCOMPLISH WITH ANY OTHER
TOPICAL AGENT.

THE MIGHTY ALFALFA HAS SINCE CONQUERED MORGELLONS IN
MY BODY.

The scabs are gone, the fibers are history, the patches of
fibers are 
all taped to a piece of wax paper and about to be sent off
to a research 
lab that has requested them.

I am sending you my
testimonial in hopes that other sufferers will at 
least know some
relief from the scourge of the skin.

Dandelion the Flame Point
Siamese must be credited with this miraculous 
discovery. He is only
three years old, but he's a hero to his 
long-suffering Mommy!

I've
done a little research on the mighty alfalfa, and apparently it
creates an alkaline environment in the body in which things like
CANCER 
and other diseases cannot survive. So, taking it internally
can only be 
a good thing, also; but it's the BATHS that made all the
difference in 
the world for me.

I also tried putting St. Johns Wort
in the bath along with it, with even 
better results. And for some
reason, using the Sun powdered laundry 
detergent with colorsafe
bleach also helps facilitate the migration of 
the specks.

God, I
really hope this helps even one person as it has helped me.

It has
cleared up my symptoms so completely that I kept forgetting to 
post
this information on the morgellons websites

(Editor's note: The
author of this article attributed the success of 
this treatment to
the alfalfa tablets. However, it appears that the 
success came from
the COMBINATION of Sun powdered laundry detergent with 
colorsafe
Bleach PLUS Alfalfa Tablets.

~~~
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

Sounds like Morgellons to me. CS has been show to be of some assist for
this, and there are other protocols which use baths are helpful as well. I
have read of curing it with MMS, but not sure if I have seen that 
confirmed.


Marshall

On 3/9/2011 11:29 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote:

Talking about...Controversial Illness...anyone heard of a disease that
feels like bugs crawling under ones skin...is this mold related? Someone
suggested Lyme diseasehow mush cs do you take for it?

In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:23:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
ja...@eytonsearth.org writes:

Greetings, everyone:

This subject always produces great confusion, and there really is no need
for it.

I ask that those interested in understanding how antimicrobial substances
work in the gut read pages 249 - 259 of my book, most of which has been
made available for free on Google books:

http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false

The confusion is easily solved when contrasting the desireable population
counts of good bacteria vs. the population counts of bad 

Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness

2011-03-10 Thread Dave Darrin
I would say that it is probably Lyme. I had that same feeling and nothing
helped until I killed the Lyme. Haven't had it since.
Dave

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:29 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote:

  Talking about...Controversial Illness...anyone heard of a disease that
 feels like bugs crawling under ones skin...is this mold related?   Someone
 suggested Lyme diseasehow mush cs do you take for it?

  In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:23:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
 ja...@eytonsearth.org writes:

 Greetings, everyone:

 This subject always produces great confusion, and there really is no need
 for it.

 I ask that those interested in understanding how antimicrobial substances
 work in the gut read pages  249 - 259 of my book, most of which has been
 made available for free on Google books:


 http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false

 The confusion is easily solved when contrasting the desireable population
 counts of good bacteria vs. the population counts of bad bacteria, and how
 quickly good bacteria repopulates in the large intestines, provided that the
 biological terrain has been restored.

 If one desires to hammer the large intestines in order to eradicate
 pathogenic organisms overgrowth, then colloidal silver, olive leaf extract
 (East Park Research), and a high quality healing clay can be used.  In
 situations where there is a severe imbalance in the colon, a high quality
 probiotic can be used.  Howver, one needs to use the probiotic not because
 these antimicrobial substances have wiped out the good organisms, but
 because there is a good chance that the imbalance in the digestive system
 has already depleted them.  Those with fantastically functioning digestive
 systems experience no problems, due to the fact that repopulation of the
 good organisms occurs very quickly; and even more quickly as the
 undesireable organisms perish.

 If one wishes to ensure the delivery of active silver into the intestines,
 then mixing colloidal silver with clay is the best way to accomplish this.

 For those using CS for other conditions, as long as the digestive system is
 relatively healthy, there is no real reason to be concerned about the
 over-killing of good bacteria in the gut.

 Kind Regards,

 Jason

 - Original Message -

 *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 06:44
 *Subject:* Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites

 My understanding is, the CS would kill the gut flora if it got in contact
 with it.

 But I believe the CS is absorbed before it gets that far in the digestive
 tract.


 On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote:

   So does this mean that CS kills good bacteria in humans too? This seems
 to be a controversial subject.


 --
 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)