Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[Tony Moody]

Hi Kirsteen,

You have had some good advice here. May I suggest that you also go to  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlaxSeedOil2/join
(Yahoo! ID required) They are pleasant, helpful people and there seem to be 
some really 
wonderful success stories. 

OK,
Tony Moody

On 24 May 2011 at 11:39, Kirsteen Wright wrote about :
Subject : CS>OT Chemo advice please?

> Hi All
> 
> I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by
> surgery for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer.
> 
> Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that
> really upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What
> I was hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the
> effects of the chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time
> in bed with that with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen
> glands. Obviously the chemo will make all this worse so is there anything
> I can take to ease the side effects?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Kirsteen
> 



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CS>Soap

[Melly Bag]

I don't think the soap manufacturers will list glycerin as an ingredient if 
they did not add it while making the soap.  The glycerin is naturally created 
when fat is mixed with the lye/water.
So if you buy  a soap without glycerin in the list of ingredients, it can still 
have it.  Comments please.
 
Melly

Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[David AuBuchon]

It is so ridicuulous...basically any natural supplement has more chance of
improving chemo than not...it is that ridiculous.  If you just threw darts
at a board you'd do well.  Some of the better ones I would take are:

liposomal vitamin C...like 10 grams a day
liposomal ubiquinol (from epic health)...like 400mg a day
samento from nutramedix...like 30 drops twice a day
Heavy Metal Detox (HMD) ...its a chlorella and other stuff
tincture...whatever the bottle says
If you can afford it...take LifeOne liposomal cocktail.
Passion4Life is my favorite multivitamin at present...take like 4 times the
recommended
Micellized Vitamin D3 from Klaire Labs...like 10,000 units worth a day

Basically anything that improves chemo, ends up treating cancer by itself
anyway.

For example, here is all stuff that protects from radiation:
http://scientificliving.net/2011/03/36-supplements-to-protect-yourself-from-radiation/
Most of those will also apply to chemotherapy.

~David

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Del  wrote:

>Kirsteen:
>
> I am no expert, but I have done a lot of research on cancer for my sister
> and we have a friend on chemo who has also given us good information.
> Basically, chemo trashes your immune system, so you have to take
> supplements that will fortify you.
> The most important one we have found is IP6-Inositol.
> Please read this article for information on IP6:
> http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/11/3778S.full
> Our friend with cancer was told by her doctor to take this while on chemo
> to keep her immune system working.
> My wife and I started taking it every day just to strengthen our immune
> systems, and my health has shown a visible improvement since.
> For cancer patients, they recommend two scoops of the powder per day, but I
> can’t tolerate the powder, so I take the capsules – it takes 16 capsules to
> equal two scoops, but I only take four to eight per day.
> You should also be taking a minimum of 5000 IU of Vit D3 per day and as
> much Liposomal C as you can tolerate, which you can buy from Livon Labs or
> make it yourself according to the Brooks Bradley method (well documented on
> this list).
> Here are some resources for those:
>
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/10/what-dose-of-oral-vitamin-d-do-you-need-to-prevent-cancer.aspx
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi144.html
> You should also consider LDN (low dose naltrexone) to strengthen your
> immune system, especially as regards lymphedema, since you will have lymph
> glands removed – see the following:
>
> http://whitakerwellness.com/our-therapies/low-dose-naltrexone/content/story/Improvements-in-Lymphedema.html
> Finally, diet and exercise (if possible) are important.  You need to
> eliminate refined sugar and cut down on carbs.  Mercola has a lot of
> information on this.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Sorry it is so late.
>
> Del
>
> You should also eat an anti-cancer diet (no sugar, low carbs):
>
>
>
>  *From:* Kirsteen Wright 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:39 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>OT Chemo advice please?
>
> Hi All
>
> I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by
> surgery for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer.
>
> Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that really
> upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What I was
> hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the effects of
> the chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time in bed with
> that with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen glands.
> Obviously the chemo will make all this worse so is there anything I can take
> to ease the side effects?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Kirsteen
>
>

Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[Del]

Kirsteen:

I am no expert, but I have done a lot of research on cancer for my sister and 
we have a friend on chemo who has also given us good information.
Basically, chemo trashes your immune system, so you have to take supplements 
that will fortify you.
The most important one we have found is IP6-Inositol.
Please read this article for information on IP6:
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/11/3778S.full
Our friend with cancer was told by her doctor to take this while on chemo to 
keep her immune system working.
My wife and I started taking it every day just to strengthen our immune 
systems, and my health has shown a visible improvement since.
For cancer patients, they recommend two scoops of the powder per day, but I 
can’t tolerate the powder, so I take the capsules – it takes 16 capsules to 
equal two scoops, but I only take four to eight per day.
You should also be taking a minimum of 5000 IU of Vit D3 per day and as much 
Liposomal C as you can tolerate, which you can buy from Livon Labs or make it 
yourself according to the Brooks Bradley method (well documented on this list).
Here are some resources for those:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/10/what-dose-of-oral-vitamin-d-do-you-need-to-prevent-cancer.aspx
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi144.html
You should also consider LDN (low dose naltrexone) to strengthen your immune 
system, especially as regards lymphedema, since you will have lymph glands 
removed – see the following:
http://whitakerwellness.com/our-therapies/low-dose-naltrexone/content/story/Improvements-in-Lymphedema.html
Finally, diet and exercise (if possible) are important.  You need to eliminate 
refined sugar and cut down on carbs.  Mercola has a lot of information on this.

Hope this helps.
Sorry it is so late.

Del

You should also eat an anti-cancer diet (no sugar, low carbs):



From: Kirsteen Wright 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

Hi All

I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by surgery 
for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer. 

Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that really 
upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What I was 
hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the effects of the 
chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time in bed with that 
with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen glands. Obviously the 
chemo will make all this worse so is there anything I can take to ease the side 
effects?

Thanks in advance
Kirsteen

Re: CS>Glycerin soap

[jaxi]

Ivory does now ... I checked ... they reformulated a few years back.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:

>  Jaxi,
>
> Ivory soap (unscented) doesn't contain glycerin, also there are many
> soaps sold in health food stores without glycerin.
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* jaxi 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Glycerin soap
>
> Right and if you read the stuff on not using toothpaste and instead using
> bar soap to brush your teeth you circle back to the problem I keep having
> ... lol.
>
> Jaxi
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Bob Banever wrote:
>
>>  You don't want glycerin in tooth paste because it coats the teeth and
>> prevents them from remineralizing.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Roger and Lisa 
>> *To:* Silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:31 PM
>> *Subject:* CS>Glycerin soap
>>
>> Can someone remind me why we don't want glycerin in our soap?  TIA!
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>Glycerin soap

[Bob Banever]

Jaxi,

Ivory soap (unscented) doesn't contain glycerin, also there are many soaps 
sold in health food stores without glycerin.
  - Original Message - 
  From: jaxi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Glycerin soap


  Right and if you read the stuff on not using toothpaste and instead using bar 
soap to brush your teeth you circle back to the problem I keep having ... lol.


  Jaxi


  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:

You don't want glycerin in tooth paste because it coats the teeth and 
prevents them from remineralizing.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger and Lisa 
  To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:31 PM
  Subject: CS>Glycerin soap


  Can someone remind me why we don't want glycerin in our soap?  TIA!
  Lisa

Re: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM

[Bob Banever]

Lisa,

I believe the original Ivory soap does not contain glycerin.  Some 
health food stores carry soaps without glycerin as well.  The ingredients 
are listed.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "Roger and Lisa" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM


I don't get this.  If you can't buy non-glycerin soap, how can you make 
your own using commercial soap?  Can you use soap with glycerin and somehow 
make it into non-glycerin?  The article says you can't remove it at home. 
Very confusing to me.


??

Lisa

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM


"How to Make Non-Glycerin Soap

"Overview

"Glycerin is a natural byproduct of the soap-making process. All soap
initially contains glycerin but commercial soap makers often remove
the glycerin and replace it with other softening agents. Glycerin
removal requires an industrial steam and filter process that is beyond
the means of most home soap makers, therefore, all homemade soap still
has glycerin. However, you can make your own, non-glycerin, scented
soaps by using unscented commercial soap and adding your own
fragrances."


Now that's the problem, isn't it.  Where does one get  an unscented
commercial soap!...

Dan



Read more: 
http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/#ixzz1NJoQZrBc


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Brooks Bradley  
wrote:

I neglected to include this, second, variation for making
glycerin-free soap, in my
previous email. Brooks Bradley.



http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/


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Re: CS>Glycerin soap

[jaxi]

Right and if you read the stuff on not using toothpaste and instead using
bar soap to brush your teeth you circle back to the problem I keep having
... lol.

Jaxi

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Bob Banever  wrote:

>  You don't want glycerin in tooth paste because it coats the teeth and
> prevents them from remineralizing.
>
> Bob
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Roger and Lisa 
> *To:* Silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:31 PM
> *Subject:* CS>Glycerin soap
>
> Can someone remind me why we don't want glycerin in our soap?  TIA!
> Lisa
>
>

Re: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM

[Roger and Lisa]

I don't get this.  If you can't buy non-glycerin soap, how can you make your 
own using commercial soap?  Can you use soap with glycerin and somehow make 
it into non-glycerin?  The article says you can't remove it at home.  Very 
confusing to me.


??

Lisa

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM


"How to Make Non-Glycerin Soap

"Overview

"Glycerin is a natural byproduct of the soap-making process. All soap
initially contains glycerin but commercial soap makers often remove
the glycerin and replace it with other softening agents. Glycerin
removal requires an industrial steam and filter process that is beyond
the means of most home soap makers, therefore, all homemade soap still
has glycerin. However, you can make your own, non-glycerin, scented
soaps by using unscented commercial soap and adding your own
fragrances."


Now that's the problem, isn't it.  Where does one get  an unscented
commercial soap!...

Dan



Read more: 
http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/#ixzz1NJoQZrBc


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Brooks Bradley  
wrote:

I neglected to include this, second, variation for making
glycerin-free soap, in my
previous email. Brooks Bradley.



http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/


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CS>glycerin soap

[Roger and Lisa]

OK, thanks!
Lisa

Re: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM

[Dan Nave]

"How to Make Non-Glycerin Soap

"Overview

"Glycerin is a natural byproduct of the soap-making process. All soap
initially contains glycerin but commercial soap makers often remove
the glycerin and replace it with other softening agents. Glycerin
removal requires an industrial steam and filter process that is beyond
the means of most home soap makers, therefore, all homemade soap still
has glycerin. However, you can make your own, non-glycerin, scented
soaps by using unscented commercial soap and adding your own
fragrances."


Now that's the problem, isn't it.  Where does one get  an unscented
commercial soap!...

Dan



Read more: 
http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/#ixzz1NJoQZrBc

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Brooks Bradley  wrote:
>   I neglected to include this, second, variation for making
> glycerin-free soap, in my
> previous email.    Brooks Bradley.
>
>
>
> http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/
>
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Re: CS>Glycerin soap

[Bob Banever]

You don't want glycerin in tooth paste because it coats the teeth and prevents 
them from remineralizing.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger and Lisa 
  To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:31 PM
  Subject: CS>Glycerin soap


  Can someone remind me why we don't want glycerin in our soap?  TIA!
  Lisa

CS>Glycerin soap

[Roger and Lisa]

Can someone remind me why we don't want glycerin in our soap?  TIA!
Lisa

Re: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM

[PTF]

I wonder if Miracle II soap would do?  I have used it to brush my teeth for 
years.  When I started my teeth and gums improved almost immediately.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: "Brooks Bradley" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:47 PM
Subject: CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM



  I neglected to include this, second, variation for making
glycerin-free soap, in my
previous email.Brooks Bradley.



http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/


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CS>How To Make Non-glycerin Soap | LIVESTRONG.COM

[Brooks Bradley]

   I neglected to include this, second, variation for making
glycerin-free soap, in my
previous email.Brooks Bradley.



http://www.livestrong.com/article/21988-make-nonglycerin-soap/


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CS>How to Make Non-Glycerin Soap | eHow.com

[Brooks Bradley]

  This is the best I can doin answer to the
question about non-glycerin soap.
It is very difficult to purchase non-glycerin soap from commercial
sourcesbusiness marketeers
have, simply, eliminated the general demand for such soaps.
 It has been quite some time since we have been
involved with Dr. Judd's oral hygiene
research.so I do not have any up-to-date sources for purchasing
glycerin-free soap from commercial soures.
My apologies for being unable to assist you
further.Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.


http://www.ehow.com/how_4829542_make-nonglycerin-soap.html


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Re: CS>Save Your Teeth and Be Well!

[jaxi]

Brooks -

I emailed you a question about this awhile ago and I think it got lost.  I
know you use (used to use) Ivory as your bar soap.  They reformulated a few
years back and now have glycerine in their soap.

I was wondering what you might have found as a good alternative to Ivory.

Dr Bonners seems to be a popular favorite but they say they have retained
glycerine from some word I am blanking on right now so I am not sure if that
is enough glycerine to be problematic or not.

Jaxi

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote:

>This is an excellent summary of Dr. Gerard Judd's re-enamelization
> protocol .
>
> Brooks Bradley.
>
>  
> Http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm
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RE: CS>Save Your Teeth and Be Well!

[Dianne France]

Thank you Brooks for posting this site.  I just had major surgery and suddenly 
my teeth are breaking off.
Not sure what is happening.  This is a God send for me.
 
Dianne
 
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:49:41 -0500
> From: bradlebro...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Save Your Teeth and Be Well!
> 
> This is an excellent summary of Dr. Gerard Judd's re-enamelization
> protocol .
> 
> Brooks Bradley.
> 
> Http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm
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CS>Save Your Teeth and Be Well!

[Brooks Bradley]

This is an excellent summary of Dr. Gerard Judd's re-enamelization
protocol .

Brooks Bradley.

 Http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm


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Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Oh I forgot to say to Kirsteen that DMSO targets the chemo to the cancer and 
helps keep it from attacking the healthy tissue.  dee


On 24 May 2011, at 15:10, Paula Perry wrote:

> Kristen,
>  
> There are supplements to take that actually help the chemo to target the 
> cancer and protect the healthy cells. Also, mitigate a lot of the side 
> effects. My husband did it. It works and he is still alive and in excellant 
> health after Hodgkins Lymphoma.
> Get the book, Beating Cancer with Nutrition by Patrick Quillin. He was the 
> nutritionist for Cancer Treatment Centers of America. I can attest to his 
> recommendations working. Husband is 6 years with no evident cancer and he is 
> a smoker on top of that! One quick recommendation is avoid sugar. Sugar is a 
> cancer feeder. A lot of info atwww.cancertutor.com
> Take care,
> Paula
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: MaryAnn Helland 
> Sent: May 24, 2011 8:44 AM 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Subject: Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please? 
> 
> I'm so sorry Kirsteen.  Do what you have to do.  Blessings on you, and 
> prayers for your return to good health.
> Mary Ann
> 
> From: Kirsteen Wright 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 5:39:23 AM
> Subject: CS>OT Chemo advice please?
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by 
> surgery for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer. 
> 
> Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that really 
> upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What I was 
> hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the effects of the 
> chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time in bed with that 
> with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen glands. Obviously the 
> chemo will make all this worse so is there anything I can take to ease the 
> side effects?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Kirsteen
> 
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Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

You have my very best wishes Kirsteen.  What about Vit D and liposomal Vit C in 
high doses?  Plus iodine at a separate time.  dee


On 24 May 2011, at 11:39, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by 
> surgery for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer. 
> 
> Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that really 
> upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What I was 
> hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the effects of the 
> chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time in bed with that 
> with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen glands. Obviously the 
> chemo will make all this worse so is there anything I can take to ease the 
> side effects?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Kirsteen
> 


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Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[Guyot Léna]

All gingers: crystallized (The Ginger People make great stuff), dried,  
teas, or St. Claires Ginger pastilles, are all good for mitigating  
nausea. You might want to choose the least amount of sugar, though.  
Good luck.

Be well,
Léna

On May 24, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

Hi All

I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed  
by surgery for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer.


Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that  
really upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead.  
What I was hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate  
the effects of the chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of  
the time in bed with that with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness  
and swollen glands. Obviously the chemo will make all this worse so is  
there anything I can take to ease the side effects?


Thanks in advance
Kirsteen

Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[Paula Perry]

Kristen,
 
There are supplements to take that actually help the chemo to target the cancer and protect the healthy cells. Also, mitigate a lot of the side effects. My husband did it. It works and he is still alive and in excellant health after Hodgkins Lymphoma.
Get the book, Beating Cancer with Nutrition by Patrick Quillin. He was the nutritionist for Cancer Treatment Centers of America. I can attest to his recommendations working. Husband is 6 years with no evident cancer and he is a smoker on top of that! One quick recommendation is avoid sugar. Sugar is a cancer feeder. A lot of info at www.cancertutor.com
Take care,
Paula

-Original Message- From: MaryAnn Helland Sent: May 24, 2011 8:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please? 



I'm so sorry Kirsteen.  Do what you have to do.  Blessings on you, and prayers for your return to good health.
Mary Ann



From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Tue, May 24, 2011 5:39:23 AMSubject: CS>OT Chemo advice please?Hi AllI'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by surgery for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer. Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that really upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What I was hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the effects of the chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time in bed with that with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen glands. Obviously the chemo will make all this worse so is there anything I can take to ease the side effects?Thanks in advanceKirsteen



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Re: CS>HVAC/LVDC particle structure: Was blue nail bed detox.

[Marshall]

There are two other HVAC methods.  The most popular one the electrodes 
are placed just above the water, and the voltage attacts the water to 
form a small mound under the electrode, providing contact.  No arc is 
intentional formed, but if the mound drops aware for a split second it 
can.  The second method, which I used, the electrodes are submerged,with 
glass tubing over them, exposing only the very tip, with only about 1/8 
inch extending out.  This reduces the electrode area sufficiently that 
it can maintain the 10,000 volts AC.


Marshall

This would obviously have been discussed in days gone by but if anyone 
is willing to indulge me, feel free to do so.


Excuse the simplicity in choice of wording and/or explanation, but it 
uses the least amount of available writing space.


LVDC:
1. Silver is expelled from electrode in the form of ions...Yes/No?
2. Those ions are atoms minus 1 electron which give then a positive 
electrical charge...Yes/No?
3. Those ions will collide with each other forming a form of 'liquid' 
particle if you like, which are clusters of those ions...Yes/No?
4. As ALL those ions will not form into clusters we are left with both 
an ionic and particulate solution...Yes/No?
5. Upon this form of particle entering the body/blood they would be 
broken apart again by whatever constituents are in our system.  This 
is a comment, thus doesn't require an answer, as this is my belief.
6.  Those particles have the ability to be broken apart due to the 
fact that they are not 'solid' metallic particles as such, rather they 
are a result of chemistry more than a physics result ie; they are not 
actually solid metal particles.


HVAC:
The only method I have read about is the arc discharge method whereby 
the electrodes don't actually penetrate the water, so I'm going to 
stick to this one, and I only have four questions at this point in time.


1. Silver is expelled from the electrode in the form of actual solid 
metallic particles...Yes/No?
2. These solid metallic particles consist of a positive electrical 
charge...Yes/No?
3. These particles are in much more profusion/density/amount/ppm or 
whatever than LVDC produces...Yes/No?
4. As these are solid metallic particles, as opposed to atomic ion 
clusters, they cannot be broken apart upon entering the body/blood and 
remain as solid metallic particles throughout their journey through 
our system...Yes/No?


N.



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Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[Ronald Lowry]

Hi Kirsteen
I am a cancer survivorlemme tell you how I did it.
1) start a regimen of Essiac Tea. Essiac is an immune builder and cancer
fighter. Take it before and after starting chemo or radiation.
Chemo/radiation breaks down you immune system. You will need it. Do NOT take
while doing chemo, as it may affect how the chemo works.
2) take a very strong pro-biotic. You need the p-b's too keep your "good"
bacteria going.
3) start taking a good quality hemp oil.if you can find a source. Go
online and watch Rick Simpson's "Run from the cure"
4) get outside daily.and exercise daily to keep your system oxygenated.
5) Listen very closely to your body.as to what to eat.how to
exercise.
6) eat organically
7) stay hydratedeven if not in the mood
   This will keep you as strong and healthy as possible and give you your
best shot at beating a very beatable disease.
Good luck
god bless
ron

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Kirsteen Wright <
kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by
> surgery for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer.
>
> Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that really
> upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What I was
> hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the effects of
> the chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time in bed with
> that with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen glands.
> Obviously the chemo will make all this worse so is there anything I can take
> to ease the side effects?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Kirsteen
>
>

Re: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[MaryAnn Helland]

I'm so sorry Kirsteen.  Do what you have to do.  Blessings on you, and prayers 
for your return to good health.
Mary Ann





From: Kirsteen Wright 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 5:39:23 AM
Subject: CS>OT Chemo advice please?

Hi All

I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by surgery 
for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer. 


Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that really 
upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What I was 
hoping 
someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the effects of the chemo. I 
already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time in bed with that with 
accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen glands. Obviously the chemo 
will make all this worse so is there anything I can take to ease the side 
effects?

Thanks in advance
Kirsteen

CS>OT Chemo advice please?

[Kirsteen Wright]

Hi All

I'm about to undergo a course of Chemotherapy and Herceptin followed by
surgery for an aggressive breast and lymph node cancer.

Can I first of all please ask, no advice not to have it. I find that really
upsetting as it's already a done deal and will be going ahead. What I was
hoping someone could advise me is what to take to mitigate the effects of
the chemo. I already have M.E. so am laid up a lot of the time in bed with
that with accompanying shakes, nausea, dizziness and swollen glands.
Obviously the chemo will make all this worse so is there anything I can take
to ease the side effects?

Thanks in advance
Kirsteen