Re: CSParalyzed vocal cords
Yeah Steve G, Never kick anothers crutch. You may need one yourself sooner or later. Tony On 19 Jun 2012 at 11:24, Steve G wrote about : Subject : Re: CSParalyzed vocal cords I'm thinking that acupuncture may be helpful as well. I wouldn't bother with homeopathic remedies for any condition, unless it is one that could respond to placebos. .Electrical stimulation sounds the most promising to me. Best of luck. --- On Tue, 6/19/12, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com Subject: CSParalyzed vocal cords To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 12:33 PM Does anyone have any suggestion on getting paralyzed vocal cords working again? My daughter had thyroid cancer, and when they removed her thyroid her vocal cords got paralyzed. I have been searching for any alternative therapies, and have found some Chinese herbs, homeopathic remedies, and maybe electro stimulation. Brooks, any research in this area you are aware of. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
EFT can help/cure fibromyalgia. Gayla, who has seen it happen - Original Message - From: Steve youngs...@digis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: CSFibromyalgia (FM) All, FM is discussed in this forum every couple of years. My wife has it and is in pain most of the time. Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). Thanks for your help, Steve Y. -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Dan Nave Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Gelatin in bulk For those of you who take this type of bulk gelatin, which type seems to work best? Is there any difference between the two types of gelatin as to taste and/or effectiveness? Dan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote: I have been getting bulk gelatin from Great Lakes Gelatin Company [Google it] for a fair length of time now and am well satisfied with their product. The one I get is O-Bloom Gelatin Hydrolysate Type B Lot # 144 Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe chemistry of Maple syrup and sodium bicarbonate
Hi Sandie, We have ben on a lng road trip. Over 3,000 miles. Just got back. Tel Tofflemire From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 7:33 AM Subject: Re: CSThe chemistry of Maple syrup and sodium bicarbonate I hear you Jane thanks for the early morning smile !!! Have a great day Sandee Attitude is everything!!! www.aliveagain.co.cc 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried consumerproducts.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
Eating NO wheat gluten helps too Jane - Original Message - From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:02 AM Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) EFT can help/cure fibromyalgia. Gayla, who has seen it happen - Original Message - From: Steve youngs...@digis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: CSFibromyalgia (FM) All, FM is discussed in this forum every couple of years. My wife has it and is in pain most of the time. Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). Thanks for your help, Steve Y. -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Dan Nave Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Gelatin in bulk For those of you who take this type of bulk gelatin, which type seems to work best? Is there any difference between the two types of gelatin as to taste and/or effectiveness? Dan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote: I have been getting bulk gelatin from Great Lakes Gelatin Company [Google it] for a fair length of time now and am well satisfied with their product. The one I get is O-Bloom Gelatin Hydrolysate Type B Lot # 144 Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5080 - Release Date: 06/19/12
Re: CSThe chemistry of Maple syrup and sodium bicarbonate
Hi There Tel - glad to hear you had a great trip, I love driving around that amazing country - please do me a favor if you get this one let me know as I have been having trouble with my outgoing emails - thanks Cheers Sandee Attitude is everything!!! www.aliveagain.co.cc 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 37 TODAY: Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fe1e3cdb79bf80b73fst03vuc
Re: CSOT - black salve
Be very careful putting your own Black Salve together, That old recipe burned big holes in people. Tel Tofflemire From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:41 AM Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve PT.. here is the source from the original 'cansema' black salve. I have ordered from them in the past with no problem. If you have trouble with the link, just google cansema and you have to dig a little but keep going to their products/salves page. Lola http://www.herbhealers.com/store/salves-and-tonics On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Have you tried making it a little wetter, Dee? Along those lines, does anyone have a recipe for black salve? It seems that every link I follow for a recipe is a dead end. It would be a shame if it was lost to posterity. PT -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT - black salve can anyone give me a tip on how to get this to stick on the target please? it just seems to roll off at the moment. All help appreciated. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5052 - Release Date: 06/06/12
Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
I find it interesting that most people do not address the nutritional issues as being all that important. Is this an ingnoring or dismissal of the mothering aspect? I have to ask. It is the nutrition, or lack of it, that is the secondary cause of all dis-eases. The primary one being a mental or emotional issues that has been dormant for who knows how long? That is where the remark about cervical trauma comes from I think. Almost all of my clients that have had the FM 'symptoms' have all had trauma in that area caused by a number of ways. Eventually it becomes neccessary to address the emotional issue to effect a lasting 'cure'. The EFT or tapping that is allover the web these days, thanks to Margret Lynch, has some very benificial results. Just do a Google. There ae so many links and sites and Utube vids. Too many to paste. Hope this helps some. Tara On 6/20/12, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: Eating NO wheat gluten helps too Jane - Original Message - From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:02 AM Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) EFT can help/cure fibromyalgia. Gayla, who has seen it happen - Original Message - From: Steve youngs...@digis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: CSFibromyalgia (FM) All, FM is discussed in this forum every couple of years. My wife has it and is in pain most of the time. Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). Thanks for your help, Steve Y. -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Dan Nave Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Gelatin in bulk For those of you who take this type of bulk gelatin, which type seems to work best? Is there any difference between the two types of gelatin as to taste and/or effectiveness? Dan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote: I have been getting bulk gelatin from Great Lakes Gelatin Company [Google it] for a fair length of time now and am well satisfied with their product. The one I get is O-Bloom Gelatin Hydrolysate Type B Lot # 144 Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5080 - Release Date: 06/19/12
Re: CSOT - black salve
Just be very careful with making our own Black Salve, It took me 10 years before I had it safe for people. Tel Tofflemire From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:34 AM Subject: RE: CSOT - black salve Have you tried making it a little wetter, Dee? Along those lines, does anyone have a recipe for black salve? It seems that every link I follow for a recipe is a dead end. It would be a shame if it was lost to posterity. PT -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT - black salve can anyone give me a tip on how to get this to stick on the target please? it just seems to roll off at the moment. All help appreciated. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5052 - Release Date: 06/06/12
No list cops was: Re: CSThe chemistry of Maple syrup and sodium bicarbonate
Alan, you are not the list owner here. This list is a place where many folks are friends. Lengthy personal correspondence usually doesn't happen here, but unless Mike steps in and calls a halt to any particular exchange, it is up to us each as individuals to decide what to share here. In that light, you have every right to name your preference that personal comments not fill this list. But your statement below is an instruction, not a stated preference. Mike has an amazing tolerance for a lot on this list, including quite a quilt of windows into many different approaches to health - something else some people would like/prefer not to have happening here. And personal greetings and requests are at times part of the community's fabric. He has also provided us with the off topic list for broader excursions into info not specifically regarding cs. But he sets the tone here, and its well established. The one thing he has never well tolerated is anyone playing list cop. I'm not trying to be a cop here either, just to inform you that that has been the history here, and that it is much appreciated by many of us here. And it is my personal preference that the list continue to be managed in that way.Sara Please take these personal comments off list, thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - black salve
No Don't ! Tel Tofflemire From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve I've added DMSO to thin the dry salve; it should also carry it in pretty deep. R On 6/06/2012 11:27 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone give me a tip on how to get this to stick on the target please? it just seems to roll off at the moment.
Re: CSOT - black salve
Hi Dee, why not mix it with some manuka honey if you can find it. Any honey will do in a pinch. Pretty easy to wash off too. Tara ___ On 6/7/12, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: the problem is to get the paste to be sticky enough to do this as we can get it on but it just doesn't seem to stick, but comes off on my finger. Thanks for all suggestions. dee On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:03, Lena Guyot wrote: This might not work, but sprinkling some cornstarch into the dog's hair and then massaging the paste into that might make it stay in beneath the hair, against the scalp. Sometimes dog hair is too slippery to start with, and powdering it first could make the difference. Be well, Léna On Jun 6, 2012, at 2:33 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - black salve
Thanks ! I am back doing business. My trip covered 10 states and over 3,000 miles in my Kia Soul . Good to be back, we slept in this am. Tel Tofflemire From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:55 PM Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve Tel.. have a safe trip and hurry back, ok? :) Lola On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: Black Salve is hard to make correctly. It needs to be cooked with the ingredients at just the wright tempter I do it my repetition, and Its hard to make.. You could ruin a batch, as you need to make it in very large sizes batch, make it all in one day. It take's me all day to make a batch, and some times into the night. Tel Tofflemire From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 11:14 AM Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve Other possible recipe ingredients: Chaparral, Galangal, Rhubarb, Burdock, Buckthorn, Red Clover, Purple Lapacho, Ascorbal Palmitate, Graviola, Sheep Sorrel, Bentonite Clay, Pine Tar, Artemisenin, Chickweed, Black Walnut Bark Poke Root Nettle Chickweed Salve (Cold Infusion) Chickweed, Comfrey, Mint, Olive Oil, Beeswax, Lavender, Rosemary, Eucalyptus. On 6/06/2012 11:34 PM, PTFerrance wrote: does anyone have a recipe for black salve? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - black salve
Why Tel? What does it do? Is it because of the sugars? Tara ___ On 6/20/12, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: No Don't ! Tel Tofflemire From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve I've added DMSO to thin the dry salve; it should also carry it in pretty deep. R On 6/06/2012 11:27 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone give me a tip on how to get this to stick on the target please? it just seems to roll off at the moment. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
Only if the person is gluten intolerant. PT -Original Message- From: Jane MacRoss [mailto:highfie...@internode.on.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) Eating NO wheat gluten helps too Jane - Original Message - From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:02 AM Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) EFT can help/cure fibromyalgia. Gayla, who has seen it happen - Original Message - From: Steve youngs...@digis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: CSFibromyalgia (FM) All, FM is discussed in this forum every couple of years. My wife has it and is in pain most of the time. Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). Thanks for your help, Steve Y. -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Dan Nave Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Gelatin in bulk For those of you who take this type of bulk gelatin, which type seems to work best? Is there any difference between the two types of gelatin as to taste and/or effectiveness? Dan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote: I have been getting bulk gelatin from Great Lakes Gelatin Company [Google it] for a fair length of time now and am well satisfied with their product. The one I get is O-Bloom Gelatin Hydrolysate Type B Lot # 144 Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5080 - Release Date: 06/19/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12
RE: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
Having managed the pain of CTFM/MPS for almost 30 years I can tell you that if you don't address the spinal cord inflammation that comes from the cervical trauma you will *never* bring the pain level down to a 4 out of 10. If you do not do this eventually there will be changes in the brain that actually will increase the pain and that will start manifesting as other symptoms. Believe me when I say the bulk of my consumable income went on nutrition... both eating patterns and supplements. In addition I am a licensed Acupuncturist and have been trained in a number of emotional processing paradigms such as TAT, PEAT, PSYCH-K, etc. as well as being a Reiki Master. I am also trained in Thermal, GSR and EEG Biofeedback. They all helped for awhile but nothing helped as much as treating the inflammation in the spinal cord. After I was treated for the inflammation in my spinal cord I felt like a human being again. Then I could start addressing some of the other specific issues. If there is no cervical trauma I have read that FM is curable. If there is cervical trauma it is 'managed'. If there is ligament laxity there are other issues that present and must be addressed. I will be happy to email with anyone that has this condition. Blessings, PT -Original Message- From: 123 456 [mailto:whiteol...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) I find it interesting that most people do not address the nutritional issues as being all that important. Is this an ingnoring or dismissal of the mothering aspect? I have to ask. It is the nutrition, or lack of it, that is the secondary cause of all dis-eases. The primary one being a mental or emotional issues that has been dormant for who knows how long? That is where the remark about cervical trauma comes from I think. Almost all of my clients that have had the FM 'symptoms' have all had trauma in that area caused by a number of ways. Eventually it becomes neccessary to address the emotional issue to effect a lasting 'cure'. The EFT or tapping that is allover the web these days, thanks to Margret Lynch, has some very benificial results. Just do a Google. There ae so many links and sites and Utube vids. Too many to paste. Hope this helps some. Tara On 6/20/12, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: Eating NO wheat gluten helps too Jane - Original Message - From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:02 AM Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) EFT can help/cure fibromyalgia. Gayla, who has seen it happen - Original Message - From: Steve youngs...@digis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: CSFibromyalgia (FM) All, FM is discussed in this forum every couple of years. My wife has it and is in pain most of the time. Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). Thanks for your help, Steve Y. -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Dan Nave Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Gelatin in bulk For those of you who take this type of bulk gelatin, which type seems to work best? Is there any difference between the two types of gelatin as to taste and/or effectiveness? Dan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net wrote: I have been getting bulk gelatin from Great Lakes Gelatin Company [Google it] for a fair length of time now and am well satisfied with their product. The one I get is O-Bloom Gelatin Hydrolysate Type B Lot # 144 Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5080 - Release Date: 06/19/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12
RE: CSOT - black salve
Thanks for this Tel. I keep trying to warn people that sometimes taking more of a good thing in isn't such a good thing. DMSO is powerful in what it does and needs to be respected. PT From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve No Don't ! Tel Tofflemire _ From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve I've added DMSO to thin the dry salve; it should also carry it in pretty deep. R On 6/06/2012 11:27 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: can anyone give me a tip on how to get this to stick on the target please? it just seems to roll off at the moment. _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12
RE: CSOT - black salve
Hi Tel, I have no intention of making my own. I just didn't want the formula to get lost. especially since I had a hard time finding anything again. I hope you have an apprentice, Tel, so your formulae aren't lost when you retire. PT From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve Just be very careful with making our own Black Salve, It took me 10 years before I had it safe for people. Tel Tofflemire _ From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:34 AM Subject: RE: CSOT - black salve Have you tried making it a little wetter, Dee? Along those lines, does anyone have a recipe for black salve? It seems that every link I follow for a recipe is a dead end. It would be a shame if it was lost to posterity. PT -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT - black salve can anyone give me a tip on how to get this to stick on the target please? it just seems to roll off at the moment. All help appreciated. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5052 - Release Date: 06/06/12 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12
Re: CSOT - black salve
Meant to say Tel I had another success with your black salve even in its non-sticky state! I put some on my friends dog which had this recurring place on her head which just wouldn¹t heal. She had already had it removed surgically once but it came back. I sprayed it with CS and H202 and then rubbed some black salve in. Low and behold, it scabbed and has now completely disappeared! Thanks again. dee From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:23:00 -0700 (PDT) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:27:47 -0700 Be very careful putting your own Black Salve together, That old recipe burned big holes in people. Tel Tofflemire From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:41 AM Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve PT.. here is the source from the original 'cansema' black salve. I have ordered from them in the past with no problem. If you have trouble with the link, just google cansema and you have to dig a little but keep going to their products/salves page. Lola http://www.herbhealers.com/store/salves-and-tonics On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Have you tried making it a little wetter, Dee? Along those lines, does anyone have a recipe for black salve? It seems that every link I follow for a recipe is a dead end. It would be a shame if it was lost to posterity. PT -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT - black salve can anyone give me a tip on how to get this to stick on the target please? it just seems to roll off at the moment. All help appreciated. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5052 - Release Date: 06/06/12
Re: CSOT - black salve
Hi Tara, I solved the problem using H202. Many thanks. dee From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:37:46 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - black salve Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:42:33 -0700 Hi Dee, why not mix it with some manuka honey if you can find it. Any honey will do in a pinch. Pretty easy to wash off too. Tara ___ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSParalyzed vocal cords
I'm not sure if you can call it psychosomatic because he actually had to cause the blood flow in the area to increase before the problem was cured. A fuzzy issue, I think. Dan On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:19 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: I had forgotten about that, Dan.. He was hypnotized and put into his 'trance' and gave himself a reading, telling the listeners what should be done for his condition (We have the body.) lol... His condition was psychosomatic tho, if I recall. Lola On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Edgar Cayce got over his with vocal cord problem with hypnosis... Dan On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Does anyone have any suggestion on getting paralyzed vocal cords working again? My daughter had thyroid cancer, and when they removed her thyroid her vocal cords got paralyzed. I have been searching for any alternative therapies, and have found some Chinese herbs, homeopathic remedies, and maybe electro stimulation. Brooks, any research in this area you are aware of. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Gelatin in bulk
Dan Nave wrote: For those of you who take this type of bulk gelatin, which type seems to work best? Is there any difference between the two types of gelatin as to taste and/or effectiveness? Dan, I use Great Lakes, both the collagen hydrolysate and the porcine non-hydrolyzed gelatin. I don't get the bulk packaging, because I don't like dealing with 10 lb bags of stuff. Both are fine so far as I know, I use as a source of protein. I couldn't find the original email and too lazy to go to archives, so I hope this is what you are talking about: the hydrolyzed collagen does NOT GEL. The gelatin does. Collagen dissolves in cold or hot liquids. Gelatin needs to be softened in a cold liquid before heating to dissolve it. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
Steve wrote: Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). I reduced my joint pain (mostly knees and sometimes hips) to a very low level (often no pain at all) by cutting polyunsaturated fats out of my diet. (confess sometimes I cheat and suffer for it). This includes all vegetable oils except for expeller pressed coconut oil and butter and the fat in half and half, etc. No chicken fat, no lard, no more cooking with bacon fat, LOL. No flaxseed oil or evening primrose oil, borage oil, grapeseed oil or the like, either, almost no nuts. No fish oils. Fish oils are the most unstable of all the PUFA oils. This is obviously not the conventional wisdom re so-called essential fatty acids but it worked for me. Probably all the gelatin I now eat helped a lot as well, since I did both things relatively close together time-wise it is hard to separate which one was the most beneficial. But I do notice when I cheat and consume poly-unsaturated fats, the joint pain comes back. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
I am not sure of the science behind it and .. maybe one who has FM already knows whether it works or not but supposedly guaifenesin is helpful for FM (google it). Guaifenesin is a product used in cold remedies to 'water' down mucous etc and is fairly harmless. Lola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:23 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Steve wrote: Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). I reduced my joint pain (mostly knees and sometimes hips) to a very low level (often no pain at all) by cutting polyunsaturated fats out of my diet. (confess sometimes I cheat and suffer for it). This includes all vegetable oils except for expeller pressed coconut oil and butter and the fat in half and half, etc. No chicken fat, no lard, no more cooking with bacon fat, LOL. No flaxseed oil or evening primrose oil, borage oil, grapeseed oil or the like, either, almost no nuts. No fish oils. Fish oils are the most unstable of all the PUFA oils. This is obviously not the conventional wisdom re so-called essential fatty acids but it worked for me. Probably all the gelatin I now eat helped a lot as well, since I did both things relatively close together time-wise it is hard to separate which one was the most beneficial. But I do notice when I cheat and consume poly-unsaturated fats, the joint pain comes back. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.com silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=**unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@**eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSprostate infection
Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in prostate, maybe in UTI. He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that is not gonna help the prostate. Any suggestions? I am thinkinh about: vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc. Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate? David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSprostate infection
I would think topical application of a mixture of CS + DMSO would be more effective than drinking the stuff. Its a long way to Tipperary. regards hg - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:36 pm Subject: CSprostate infection To: silver-list@eskimo.com Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in prostate, maybe in UTI. He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that is not gonna help the prostate. Any suggestions? I am thinkinh about: vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc. Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate? David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver- l...@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
I tried that therapy some years ago and I cannot recommend it. Not matter what is said about the safety of the drug it does have side effects.. long term side effects. PT From: phoenix23002 tds.net [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) I am not sure of the science behind it and .. maybe one who has FM already knows whether it works or not but supposedly guaifenesin is helpful for FM (google it). Guaifenesin is a product used in cold remedies to 'water' down mucous etc and is fairly harmless. Lola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:23 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Steve wrote: Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). I reduced my joint pain (mostly knees and sometimes hips) to a very low level (often no pain at all) by cutting polyunsaturated fats out of my diet. (confess sometimes I cheat and suffer for it). This includes all vegetable oils except for expeller pressed coconut oil and butter and the fat in half and half, etc. No chicken fat, no lard, no more cooking with bacon fat, LOL. No flaxseed oil or evening primrose oil, borage oil, grapeseed oil or the like, either, almost no nuts. No fish oils. Fish oils are the most unstable of all the PUFA oils. This is obviously not the conventional wisdom re so-called essential fatty acids but it worked for me. Probably all the gelatin I now eat helped a lot as well, since I did both things relatively close together time-wise it is hard to separate which one was the most beneficial. But I do notice when I cheat and consume poly-unsaturated fats, the joint pain comes back. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12
Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
Yes.. I figured you would know more about guaif's effect on FM better than I. But I have used it for years years for sinus drainage and have never noticed any side effects as long as I get the pure guaif with no additives etc. I have to get and rx and order from a compounding pharmacy in Nebraska since 'they' made it otc.Lola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:51 PM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: I tried that therapy some years ago and I cannot recommend it. Not matter what is said about the safety of the drug it does have side effects.. long term side effects. PT ** ** *From:* phoenix23002 tds.net [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:13 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) ** ** I am not sure of the science behind it and .. maybe one who has FM already knows whether it works or not but supposedly guaifenesin is helpful for FM (google it). Guaifenesin is a product used in cold remedies to 'water' down mucous etc and is fairly harmless. Lola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:23 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Steve wrote: Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). I reduced my joint pain (mostly knees and sometimes hips) to a very low level (often no pain at all) by cutting polyunsaturated fats out of my diet. (confess sometimes I cheat and suffer for it). This includes all vegetable oils except for expeller pressed coconut oil and butter and the fat in half and half, etc. No chicken fat, no lard, no more cooking with bacon fat, LOL. No flaxseed oil or evening primrose oil, borage oil, grapeseed oil or the like, either, almost no nuts. No fish oils. Fish oils are the most unstable of all the PUFA oils. This is obviously not the conventional wisdom re so-called essential fatty acids but it worked for me. Probably all the gelatin I now eat helped a lot as well, since I did both things relatively close together time-wise it is hard to separate which one was the most beneficial. But I do notice when I cheat and consume poly-unsaturated fats, the joint pain comes back. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12* *** -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12* ***
RE: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
I don't know what dosage you are taking but I was taking a rather high dosage to get at the trigger points. Basically, it dries one out. As we age we dry out anyway and the guaif just made it worse. It is one of the few things I regret having done. PT From: phoenix23002 tds.net [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) Yes.. I figured you would know more about guaif's effect on FM better than I. But I have used it for years years for sinus drainage and have never noticed any side effects as long as I get the pure guaif with no additives etc. I have to get and rx and order from a compounding pharmacy in Nebraska since 'they' made it otc.Lola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:51 PM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: I tried that therapy some years ago and I cannot recommend it. Not matter what is said about the safety of the drug it does have side effects.. long term side effects. PT From: phoenix23002 tds.net http://tds.net/ [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) I am not sure of the science behind it and .. maybe one who has FM already knows whether it works or not but supposedly guaifenesin is helpful for FM (google it). Guaifenesin is a product used in cold remedies to 'water' down mucous etc and is fairly harmless. Lola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:23 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Steve wrote: Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). I reduced my joint pain (mostly knees and sometimes hips) to a very low level (often no pain at all) by cutting polyunsaturated fats out of my diet. (confess sometimes I cheat and suffer for it). This includes all vegetable oils except for expeller pressed coconut oil and butter and the fat in half and half, etc. No chicken fat, no lard, no more cooking with bacon fat, LOL. No flaxseed oil or evening primrose oil, borage oil, grapeseed oil or the like, either, almost no nuts. No fish oils. Fish oils are the most unstable of all the PUFA oils. This is obviously not the conventional wisdom re so-called essential fatty acids but it worked for me. Probably all the gelatin I now eat helped a lot as well, since I did both things relatively close together time-wise it is hard to separate which one was the most beneficial. But I do notice when I cheat and consume poly-unsaturated fats, the joint pain comes back. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12
Re: CSprostate infection
Mega cranberry capsules from a reliable source (not juice) strengthens the urinary bladder walls sufficiently to repel infection + the elderly rarely drink enough water (pure) to keep things movning - they have to learn to drink enough or nothing works Jane From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in prostate, maybe in UTI. He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that is not gonna help the prostate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSprostate infection
I would be making a make a fresh batch in the morning {8 ounce/250ml glass} and
I'd drink it straight down. I'd then repeat in afternoon, and the next day if
necessary. I'd get it up to between 15-20 on EC meter, or 10-15 on TDS meter,
somewhere around there anyway. If it's UTI, I'd say it should be fixed in 24
hours or so. Wouldn't hurt for the prostate anyway.
I know it works on women with UTI, and usually in 24 hours.
Back covering...Not advice of course, just what I'd be doing.
N.
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:34:00 -0700
From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSprostate infection
Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
prostate, maybe in UTI. He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that
is not gonna help the prostate.
Any suggestions? I am thinkinh about:
vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.
Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?
David
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Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: I am not sure of the science behind it and .. maybe one who has FM already knows whether it works or not but supposedly guaifenesin is helpful for FM (google it). Guaifenesin is a product used in cold remedies to 'water' down mucous etc and is fairly harmless. Lola The science seems to be to be a bit silly, but that is my opinion. I tried it for several months some years ago after being told I had fibro, and it did not work for me. It does really seem to help some people though. I still belong to a great email forum for Guai and other alternatives for FMS because not only do they have tons of info on the Guai protocol, and all about how to avoid salycilates, but they also do discuss other ways to help FMS, and its related issues. http://www.psha-inc.com/guai-support/ sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSprostate infection
Try pomegranate extract. Olshola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:34 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote: Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in prostate, maybe in UTI. He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that is not gonna help the prostate. Any suggestions? I am thinkinh about: vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc. Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate? David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSprostate infection
D-mannose works wonders for UTI's. Add some cranberry juice (unsweetened) and you've got a potent therapy. _ From: olushola camara [mailto:camaramah...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSprostate infection Try pomegranate extract. Olshola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:34 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in prostate, maybe in UTI. He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that is not gonna help the prostate. Any suggestions? I am thinkinh about: vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc. Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate? David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
I was taking 1200 mg in the am and 1200 mg in the pm of the extended release guaif. I still take 1200 mg per day but don't seem to need the 2400 mg per day as in the past. I have no clue what the dosage recommendation is for guiaf with FM. I don't seem to have the 'dry out' problem (knock on wood) but I do drink at least 1/2 gl of water x day and am not a heavy salt eater. I am so sorry you regret having done it. Do you still have problems from taking the guaif in past? Lola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:22 PM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don’t know what dosage you are taking but I was taking a rather high dosage to get at the trigger points. Basically, it dries one out. As we age we dry out anyway and the guaif just made it worse. It is one of the few things I regret having done. PT ** ** *From:* phoenix23002 tds.net [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:04 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) ** ** Yes.. I figured you would know more about guaif's effect on FM better than I. But I have used it for years years for sinus drainage and have never noticed any side effects as long as I get the pure guaif with no additives etc. I have to get and rx and order from a compounding pharmacy in Nebraska since 'they' made it otc.Lola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:51 PM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: I tried that therapy some years ago and I cannot recommend it. Not matter what is said about the safety of the drug it does have side effects.. long term side effects. PT *From:* phoenix23002 tds.net [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:13 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) I am not sure of the science behind it and .. maybe one who has FM already knows whether it works or not but supposedly guaifenesin is helpful for FM (google it). Guaifenesin is a product used in cold remedies to 'water' down mucous etc and is fairly harmless. Lola On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:23 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Steve wrote: Do any of you know of any modern breakthroughs in ways to cure it or at least slow its progression? It seems most discussions of FM are for ways to reduce the effects (e.g. mask the pain, various stretching exercises, diet restrictions), but very little is said about actually curing it or preventing it in the first place. CS/EIS doesn't seem to help (included to keep on topic!). I reduced my joint pain (mostly knees and sometimes hips) to a very low level (often no pain at all) by cutting polyunsaturated fats out of my diet. (confess sometimes I cheat and suffer for it). This includes all vegetable oils except for expeller pressed coconut oil and butter and the fat in half and half, etc. No chicken fat, no lard, no more cooking with bacon fat, LOL. No flaxseed oil or evening primrose oil, borage oil, grapeseed oil or the like, either, almost no nuts. No fish oils. Fish oils are the most unstable of all the PUFA oils. This is obviously not the conventional wisdom re so-called essential fatty acids but it worked for me. Probably all the gelatin I now eat helped a lot as well, since I did both things relatively close together time-wise it is hard to separate which one was the most beneficial. But I do notice when I cheat and consume poly-unsaturated fats, the joint pain comes back. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com ** ** No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12* *** -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5081 - Release Date: 06/20/12* *** No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12* *** -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12* ***
Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
PTFerrance wrote: I tried that therapy some years ago and I cannot recommend it. Not matter what is said about the safety of the drug it does have side effects.. long term side effects. PT I don't regret having tried it, and never saw any lasting adverse effects, but I took only a small dose, more put me into too much extra pain. My goal was to have less pain, not more, and at my age I was not at all happy with the idea of being in MORE pain for months or even years before seeing any improvement. I had painful trigger points for many years, but they are virtually gone now. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
Did you read St Armand's work? The point of taking the guaif was to mobilize the toxins in the muscles. Initially it would cause more pain but over time, as the toxins were washed out the pain was supposed to diminish. Doesn't sound like you got past the initial stage. PT -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) PTFerrance wrote: I tried that therapy some years ago and I cannot recommend it. Not matter what is said about the safety of the drug it does have side effects.. long term side effects. PT I don't regret having tried it, and never saw any lasting adverse effects, but I took only a small dose, more put me into too much extra pain. My goal was to have less pain, not more, and at my age I was not at all happy with the idea of being in MORE pain for months or even years before seeing any improvement. I had painful trigger points for many years, but they are virtually gone now. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12
RE: CSFibromyalgia (FM)
Actually it was to mobilize the toxins in the fascia not the muscles. I mis-wrote. PT -Original Message- From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSFibromyalgia (FM) Did you read St Armand's work? The point of taking the guaif was to mobilize the toxins in the muscles. Initially it would cause more pain but over time, as the toxins were washed out the pain was supposed to diminish. Doesn't sound like you got past the initial stage. PT -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia (FM) PTFerrance wrote: I tried that therapy some years ago and I cannot recommend it. Not matter what is said about the safety of the drug it does have side effects.. long term side effects. PT I don't regret having tried it, and never saw any lasting adverse effects, but I took only a small dose, more put me into too much extra pain. My goal was to have less pain, not more, and at my age I was not at all happy with the idea of being in MORE pain for months or even years before seeing any improvement. I had painful trigger points for many years, but they are virtually gone now. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12
