RE: CS>Fibromyalgia (FM)

[PTFerrance]

>From St. Armand's point of view... short term pain for long term gain
PT

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From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Fibromyalgia (FM)

PTFerrance wrote:
> Did you read St Armand's work? 
Yes, and many other sources of info about his guai protocol praising it. 
I do understand how it is supposed to work.
>  The point of taking the guaif was to
> mobilize the toxins in the muscles.  Initially it would cause more pain
but
> over time, as the toxins were washed out the pain was supposed to
diminish.
> Doesn't sound like you got past the initial stage.
>   
I had and have zero interest in increasing my pain for long months or 
years before seeing results. I was already disabled with pain...
sol


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Re: CS>Fibromyalgia (FM)

[sol]

PTFerrance wrote:
Did you read St Armand's work? 
Yes, and many other sources of info about his guai protocol praising it. 
I do understand how it is supposed to work.

 The point of taking the guaif was to
mobilize the toxins in the muscles.  Initially it would cause more pain but
over time, as the toxins were washed out the pain was supposed to diminish.
Doesn't sound like you got past the initial stage.
  
I had and have zero interest in increasing my pain for long months or 
years before seeing results. I was already disabled with pain...

sol


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Re: CS>prostate infection

[olushola camara]

Decreasing the swelling of the prostate can bring relief, but the swelling
is symptomatic of a system (often hormonal imbalances) imbalance. So one
has to get to the root cause. As someone else said detoxing the liver and
colon is definitely a first while one makes changes to the diet and address
hormonal imbalances. Iodine therapy should definitely be considered when
addressing hormonal balance, it works!

Detoxing is critical. We got to get and keep the detox pathways open and
functioning well. Personally I did this before starting the iodine therapy.
Regarding liver detox, seriously consider *the Triple Antioxidant Liver
Protocol*.  There are many protocols and they can be stacked many different
ways. By the way, pomegranate extract is very good at reducing swelling!

The following are some very good articles about prostate cancer, and the
relationship between HDL and testosterone as it regards arterial health.

http://www.lef.org/featured-articles/INFEML_Rebuttal_E_1018.htm

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2012/jun2012_Testosterone-Controversy_01.htm

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:34 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

> Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
> prostate, maybe in UTI.  He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that
> is not gonna help the prostate.
>
> Any suggestions?  I am thinkinh about:
>
> vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
> administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.
>
> Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?
>
> David
>
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Re: CS>prostate infection

[glendajmason]

 try buchu leaf tincture, works very well and fast

 

 

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From: 123 456 
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Sent: Thu, Jun 21, 2012 7:58 am
Subject: Re: CS>prostate infection


Oh, cranberry juice for general UT issues.

T



On 6/21/12, 123 456  wrote:

> Hi Dave, first things I can think of are the EO>;

>  lavender/spike, rosemary, eucalyptus, blend equal parts, neat, no

> carrier, directly massaged into that area.

> Also, take in water, drops of Golden Seal root extract for the

> bacterial infection issue.

> Maybe he could try some Oil of Oregano by mouth, drops into some thick

> good tasting fruit juice knock it back quickly and it's tolerable, my

> old grandmothers technique.

>

> The coils and rods that Bernie and David Lowrance are researching

> seems to have a very beneficial effect as well.

> Good luck and keep us uptodate on this.  I know there is easy help for

> these issues.

> Tara

> 

>

> On 6/20/12, David AuBuchon  wrote:

>> Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in

>> prostate, maybe in UTI.  He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that

>> is not gonna help the prostate.

>>

>> Any suggestions?  I am thinkinh about:

>>

>> vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of

>> administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.

>>

>> Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?

>>

>> David

>>

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Re: CS>prostate infection

[123 456]

Oh, cranberry juice for general UT issues.
T

On 6/21/12, 123 456  wrote:
> Hi Dave, first things I can think of are the EO>;
>  lavender/spike, rosemary, eucalyptus, blend equal parts, neat, no
> carrier, directly massaged into that area.
> Also, take in water, drops of Golden Seal root extract for the
> bacterial infection issue.
> Maybe he could try some Oil of Oregano by mouth, drops into some thick
> good tasting fruit juice knock it back quickly and it's tolerable, my
> old grandmothers technique.
>
> The coils and rods that Bernie and David Lowrance are researching
> seems to have a very beneficial effect as well.
> Good luck and keep us uptodate on this.  I know there is easy help for
> these issues.
> Tara
> 
>
> On 6/20/12, David AuBuchon  wrote:
>> Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
>> prostate, maybe in UTI.  He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that
>> is not gonna help the prostate.
>>
>> Any suggestions?  I am thinkinh about:
>>
>> vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
>> administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.
>>
>> Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
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Re: CS>prostate infection

[123 456]

Hi Dave, first things I can think of are the EO>;
 lavender/spike, rosemary, eucalyptus, blend equal parts, neat, no
carrier, directly massaged into that area.
Also, take in water, drops of Golden Seal root extract for the
bacterial infection issue.
Maybe he could try some Oil of Oregano by mouth, drops into some thick
good tasting fruit juice knock it back quickly and it's tolerable, my
old grandmothers technique.

The coils and rods that Bernie and David Lowrance are researching
seems to have a very beneficial effect as well.
Good luck and keep us uptodate on this.  I know there is easy help for
these issues.
Tara


On 6/20/12, David AuBuchon  wrote:
> Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
> prostate, maybe in UTI.  He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that
> is not gonna help the prostate.
>
> Any suggestions?  I am thinkinh about:
>
> vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
> administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.
>
> Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?
>
> David
>
>
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Re: CS>The chemistry of Maple syrup and sodium bicarbonate

[Tel Tofflemire]

Got your email Sandiee !
 
Tel Tofflemire




 From: Sandee George 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>The chemistry of Maple syrup and sodium bicarbonate
 

Hi There Tel - glad to hear you had a great trip, I love driving around that 
amazing country - please do me a favor if you get this one let me know as I 
have been having trouble with my outgoing emails - thanks
Cheers
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Re: CS>The chemistry of Maple syrup and sodium bicarbonate

[Tel Tofflemire]

 From: Sandee George 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>The chemistry of Maple syrup and sodium bicarbonate
 

Hi There Tel - glad to hear you had a great trip, I love driving around that 
amazing country - please do me a favor if you get this one let me know as I 
have been having trouble with my outgoing emails - thanks
Cheers
Sandee

Attitude is everything!!!
www.aliveagain.co.cc Dear Sandee, We had a wonderful trip but long in places.. 
Good to be back. too.Tel Tofflemire

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Re: CS>OT - black salve

[Tel Tofflemire]

Way to go Dee, It sometimes takes smart people like you to figure things out. I 
know it is much easier when you are there in person.
 
Tel Tofflemire




 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: CS>OT - black salve
 

Re: CS>OT - black salve 
Meant to say Tel – I had another success with your black salve – even in its 
non-sticky state!  I put some on my friends dog which had this recurring place 
on her head which just wouldn’t heal.  She had already had it removed 
surgically once but it came back.  I sprayed it with CS and H202 and then 
rubbed some black salve in.  Low and behold, it scabbed and has now completely 
disappeared!  Thanks again.  dee



From: Tel Tofflemire 
Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:23:00 -0700 (PDT)
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: Re: CS>OT - black salve
Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:27:47 -0700

Be very careful putting your own Black Salve together, That old recipe burned 
big holes in people.
 
Tel Tofflemire

  
 

 

  From:phoenix23002 tds.net 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:41 AM
 Subject: Re: CS>OT - black salve
 
 
PT.. here is the source from the original 'cansema' black salve.  I have 
ordered from them in the past with no problem.   If you have trouble with the 
link, just google  cansema and you have to dig a little but keep going to their 
products/salves page.   Lola
 

http://www.herbhealers.com/store/salves-and-tonics
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM, PTFerrance  wrote:

Have you tried making it a little wetter, Dee?
>
>Along those lines, does anyone have a recipe for black salve?  It seems that
>every link I follow for a recipe is a dead end.  It would be a shame if it
>was lost to posterity.
>PT
>
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>From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:27 AM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: CS>OT - black salve
>
>can anyone give me a tip on how to get this to stick on the target please?
>it just seems to roll off at the moment.  All help appreciated.  dee
>
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Re: CS>prostate infection

[Tel Tofflemire]

see Bata Sitosterol, this page.
 
Tel Tofflemire




 From: David AuBuchon 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:34 PM
Subject: CS>prostate infection
 
Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
prostate, maybe in UTI.  He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that
is not gonna help the prostate.

Any suggestions?  I am thinkinh about:

vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.

Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?

David


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Re: CS>prostate infection

[Tel Tofflemire]

See Bata Sitosterol, from swansons, one a day, for a cheap fix,
 
Tel Tofflemire




 From: Jane MacRoss 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>prostate infection
 
Mega cranberry capsules from a reliable source (not juice) strengthens the 
urinary bladder walls sufficiently to repel infection + the elderly rarely 
drink enough water (pure) to keep things movning - they have to learn to drink 
enough or nothing works

Jane

From: "David AuBuchon" 


> Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
> prostate, maybe in UTI.  He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that
> is not gonna help the prostate.


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Re: CS>prostate infection

[Tel Tofflemire]

Beta Sitosterol. from Swansons.  Cheap too, 1 per day.
 
Tel Tofflemire




 From: Tony Moody 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS>prostate infection
 
On 20 Jun 2012 at 16:34, David AuBuchon wrote about :
Subject : CS>prostate infection

> Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
> prostate, maybe in UTI.  He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that is
> not gonna help the prostate.
> 
> Any suggestions?  I am thinkinh about:
> 
> vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
> administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.
> 
> Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?
> 
> David
> 

Hi David,

Yes oral CS is good for prostate (and any other infection ) but it is not the 
complete answer. 
Well, I believe the nebulised CS could be helpful; maybe it gets from the lungs 
to the blood 
system .. 

I would do Lots of vit C if I were back in trouble. Umm, I take 2 gram every 
hour 4 to 8 times 
per day. Plus a glass of water (or CS)  or more each time.  

For prostate problems, ensure that there is no constipation. 2 or 3 bowel 
movements per day 
please because that moves stagnant waste away from the prostate. Ensure that 
the person 
is well hydrated to the extent that urine is almost water clear. Move that 
butt, walking, 
swimming, cycling ; even standing on  one leg and swinging the other (alternate 
) to bring 
movement and especially fluids to and from the area. 

I would not try to irrigate the ureter. Personally, that hurts too much; some 
blokes have no 
trouble doing this. . I would do wash out enemas (with or without CS ) and if 
that is not good 
enough maybe get someone to do a series of "prostate massage" to get the stale 
products 
out. This is a life saver; search engines are your friend. 

Kidney, bladder, urine problems then cranberry ,( as per Jane)  or D-mannose 
follow up with 
heavy doses of garlic , forever; to prevent re-infection

OK,
Tony


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Re: CS>prostate infection

[Tel Tofflemire]

There is a prostate pill sold by swanson's,catalog. it is called ( Beta 
Sitosterol ) It works very well.  It will work on old or young men,  It is 
cheap in price, I have used it for several years, at dose of one per day. The 
VA I go to says keep it up.
 
Tel Tofflemire




 From: "ejohns9...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: CS>prostate infection
 


Small flowering willow made into a tea.  I used to get this and make for my Dad 
when he lived with me.  It also works quickly.
 
Edith


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From: Neville Munn 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 8:44 pm
Subject: RE: CS>prostate infection


 
I would be making a make a fresh batch in the morning {8 ounce/250ml glass} and 
I'd drink it straight down. I'd then repeat in afternoon, and the next day if 
necessary.  I'd get it up to between 15-20 on EC meter, or 10-15 on TDS meter, 
somewhere around there anyway.  If it's UTI, I'd say it should be fixed in 24 
hours or so.  Wouldn't hurt for the prostate anyway. 

I know it works on women with UTI, and usually in 24 hours.

Back covering...Not advice of course, just what I'd be doing.

N.



> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:34:00 -0700
> From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>prostate infection
> 
> Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
> prostate, maybe in UTI. He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that
> is not gonna help the prostate.
> 
> Any suggestions? I am thinkinh about:
> 
> vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
> administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.
> 
> Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?
> 
> David
> 
> 
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Re: CS>prostate infection

[ejohns9525]

Small flowering willow made into a tea.  I used to get this and make for my Dad 
when he lived with me.  It also works quickly.

Edith


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From: Neville Munn 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 8:44 pm
Subject: RE: CS>prostate infection


I would be making a make a fresh batch in the morning {8 ounce/250ml glass} and 
I'd drink it straight down. I'd then repeat in afternoon, and the next day if 
necessary.  I'd get it up to between 15-20 on EC meter, or 10-15 on TDS meter, 
somewhere around there anyway.  If it's UTI, I'd say it should be fixed in 24 
hours or so.  Wouldn't hurt for the prostate anyway.


I know it works on women with UTI, and usually in 24 hours.


Back covering...Not advice of course, just what I'd be doing.


N.



> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:34:00 -0700
> From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>prostate infection
> 
> Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
> prostate, maybe in UTI. He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that
> is not gonna help the prostate.
> 
> Any suggestions? I am thinkinh about:
> 
> vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
> administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.
> 
> Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?
> 
> David
> 
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Re: CS>prostate infection

[Tony Moody]

On 20 Jun 2012 at 16:34, David AuBuchon wrote about :
Subject : CS>prostate infection

> Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
> prostate, maybe in UTI.  He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that is
> not gonna help the prostate.
> 
> Any suggestions?  I am thinkinh about:
> 
> vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
> administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.
> 
> Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?
> 
> David
> 

Hi David,

Yes oral CS is good for prostate (and any other infection ) but it is not the 
complete answer. 
Well, I believe the nebulised CS could be helpful; maybe it gets from the lungs 
to the blood 
system .. 

I would do Lots of vit C if I were back in trouble. Umm, I take 2 gram every 
hour 4 to 8 times 
per day. Plus a glass of water (or CS)  or more each time.  

For prostate problems, ensure that there is no constipation. 2 or 3 bowel 
movements per day 
please because that moves stagnant waste away from the prostate. Ensure that 
the person 
is well hydrated to the extent that urine is almost water clear. Move that 
butt, walking, 
swimming, cycling ; even standing on  one leg and swinging the other (alternate 
) to bring 
movement and especially fluids to and from the area. 

I would not try to irrigate the ureter. Personally, that hurts too much; some 
blokes have no 
trouble doing this. . I would do wash out enemas (with or without CS ) and if 
that is not good 
enough maybe get someone to do a series of "prostate massage" to get the stale 
products 
out. This is a life saver; search engines are your friend. 

Kidney, bladder, urine problems then cranberry ,( as per Jane)  or D-mannose 
follow up with 
heavy doses of garlic , forever; to prevent re-infection

OK,
Tony


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