Re: CSMSM CS
Some time ago, I bought a pint of DMSO and purified it by letting it sit in the refrigerator so that the DMSO freezes, but the water with the impurities in it remains liquid. Then I poured off the liquid portion and what was left in the bottle was very pure DMSO. I also tried to purify what was poured off the same way in a second bottle, and succeeded to some extent, but the second batch still had some of the smell. I went ahead and used that and could still smell/taste the characteristic disgusting smell/taste but, when that was finished and I went back to the first batch of pruified DMSO, I was very surprised that I could detect almost none of the taste/smell upon using it. I haven't used it orally though, and I don't swallow it. People that need to use a lot of DMSO or take it orally should definitely try this method, if only out of respect for other people. I think that second batch could have been further purified by doing the process again, and perhaps adding a couple of percent (by volume) of distilled water and shaking before refreezing to dissolve out the impurities. It freezes in the refrigerator, not the freezer. You don't want to get it cold enough to freeze the water. Also, it works better if there is not too much water in the mix. I don't know if it would work with 50% DMSO and 50% water, for instance. Dan On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Good question! I've been meaning to ask Marc about this and other things that the stomach might alter or interfere with. DMSO and MSM are similar in lots of ways, although DMSO is 'smellier' for a lot of people. Actually, You can put DMSO just about anywhere and it will go everywhere. I put it on my knee, topically and within 40 minutes I'm tasting it: that odd clam/garlic taste. I also use Brook's mix: 75% CS, 15% Glycerine, 10%DMSO in glass roll-ons I get from eBay. On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Melly Bag wrote: i wonder if DMSO plus CS under the tongue would have better effect than MSM silver. Melly
Re: CSACS 200
Nano distilled water is made out of Bullshit... Dan On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone familiar with this product? The label says: - ACS 200 Extra Strength Advanced Cellular Silver 2 Fl Oz 200 ppm Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth 2-3 times a day Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day Other Ingredients: nano distilled water - I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard back. This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a day. My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver. The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is? Thanks for any feedback, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSACS 200
Do you know anything about this product? Is the list unusually quiet btw? Thanks, Garnet On Jul 27, 2012 9:49 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Nano distilled water is made out of Bullshit... Dan On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone familiar with this product? The label says: - ACS 200 Extra Strength Advanced Cellular Silver 2 Fl Oz 200 ppm Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth 2-3 times a day Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day Other Ingredients: nano distilled water - I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard back. This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a day. My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver. The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is? Thanks for any feedback, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMSM CS
I respectfully question whether you are actually using DMSO if you are not getting the garlic odor. That odor is from dimethylsulfide, a break down product of DMSO in the body. DMSO is DimethylSulfoxide, it can only break down to DMS, among other products. Some people do not experience the taste or odor possibly due to their particular metabolism or detox practices, such as using chlorophyll for example. groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO DMSO List Owner Janet R. Perry, MA Wellness Consultant Peoples Pharmacy ja...@peoplesrx.com Wellness Consultant Austin, Texas 512.585.1320 On 7/27/12 9:46 AM, Dan Nave wrote: Some time ago, I bought a pint of DMSO and purified it by letting it sit in the refrigerator so that the DMSO freezes, but the water with the impurities in it remains liquid. Then I poured off the liquid portion and what was left in the bottle was very pure DMSO. I also tried to purify what was poured off the same way in a second bottle, and succeeded to some extent, but the second batch still had some of the smell. I went ahead and used that and could still smell/taste the characteristic disgusting smell/taste but, when that was finished and I went back to the first batch of pruified DMSO, I was very surprised that I could detect almost none of the taste/smell upon using it. I haven't used it orally though, and I don't swallow it. People that need to use a lot of DMSO or take it orally should definitely try this method, if only out of respect for other people. I think that second batch could have been further purified by doing the process again, and perhaps adding a couple of percent (by volume) of distilled water and shaking before refreezing to dissolve out the impurities. It freezes in the refrigerator, not the freezer. You don't want to get it cold enough to freeze the water. Also, it works better if there is not too much water in the mix. I don't know if it would work with 50% DMSO and 50% water, for instance. Dan On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Good question! I've been meaning to ask Marc about this and other things that the stomach might alter or interfere with. DMSO and MSM are similar in lots of ways, although DMSO is 'smellier' for a lot of people. Actually, You can put DMSO just about anywhere and it will go everywhere. I put it on my knee, topically and within 40 minutes I'm tasting it: that odd clam/garlic taste. I also use Brook's mix: 75% CS, 15% Glycerine, 10%DMSO in glass roll-ons I get from eBay. On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Melly Bag wrote: i wonder if DMSO plus CS under the tongue would have better effect than MSM silver. Melly
RE: CSMSM CS
What was the original purity level of the DMSO you used? Thanks, PT From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMSM CS Some time ago, I bought a pint of DMSO and purified it by letting it sit in the refrigerator so that the DMSO freezes, but the water with the impurities in it remains liquid. Then I poured off the liquid portion and what was left in the bottle was very pure DMSO. I also tried to purify what was poured off the same way in a second bottle, and succeeded to some extent, but the second batch still had some of the smell. I went ahead and used that and could still smell/taste the characteristic disgusting smell/taste but, when that was finished and I went back to the first batch of pruified DMSO, I was very surprised that I could detect almost none of the taste/smell upon using it. I haven't used it orally though, and I don't swallow it. People that need to use a lot of DMSO or take it orally should definitely try this method, if only out of respect for other people. I think that second batch could have been further purified by doing the process again, and perhaps adding a couple of percent (by volume) of distilled water and shaking before refreezing to dissolve out the impurities. It freezes in the refrigerator, not the freezer. You don't want to get it cold enough to freeze the water. Also, it works better if there is not too much water in the mix. I don't know if it would work with 50% DMSO and 50% water, for instance. Dan On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Good question! I've been meaning to ask Marc about this and other things that the stomach might alter or interfere with. DMSO and MSM are similar in lots of ways, although DMSO is 'smellier' for a lot of people. Actually, You can put DMSO just about anywhere and it will go everywhere. I put it on my knee, topically and within 40 minutes I'm tasting it: that odd clam/garlic taste. I also use Brook's mix: 75% CS, 15% Glycerine, 10%DMSO in glass roll-ons I get from eBay. On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Melly Bag wrote: i wonder if DMSO plus CS under the tongue would have better effect than MSM silver. Melly No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5158 - Release Date: 07/27/12 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5158 - Release Date: 07/27/12
Re: CSACS 200
LOL! And what kind of bull? L On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Dan Nave wrote: Nano distilled water is made out of Bullshit... Dan On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone familiar with this product? The label says: - ACS 200 Extra Strength Advanced Cellular Silver 2 Fl Oz 200 ppm Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth 2-3 times a day Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day Other Ingredients: nano distilled water - I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard back. This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a day. My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver. The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is? Thanks for any feedback, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSACS 200
Sounds like a promotion add to me... CS is CS, some has more silver than others, thus the ppm is higher, but not always needed. Tel Tofflemire From: Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:58 AM Subject: CSACS 200 Anyone familiar with this product? The label says: - ACS 200 Extra Strength Advanced Cellular Silver 2 Fl Oz 200 ppm Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth 2-3 times a day Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day Other Ingredients: nano distilled water - I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard back. This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a day. My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver. The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is? Thanks for any feedback, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSACS 200
Its sounds like an add, all cs has silver, some more than others, but they all are good and more is not always better. Tel Tofflemire From: Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:58 AM Subject: CSACS 200 Anyone familiar with this product? The label says: - ACS 200 Extra Strength Advanced Cellular Silver 2 Fl Oz 200 ppm Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth 2-3 times a day Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day Other Ingredients: nano distilled water - I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard back. This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a day. My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver. The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is? Thanks for any feedback, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSACS 200
Last I checked, Frank measured it at about 60PPM. And ACS200 is also sold under some other label name that I forget that specifies more like 60PPM silver. David On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: Its sounds like an add, all cs has silver, some more than others, but they all are good and more is not always better. Tel Tofflemire -- *From:* Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com *To:* Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:58 AM *Subject:* CSACS 200 Anyone familiar with this product? The label says: - ACS 200 Extra Strength Advanced Cellular Silver 2 Fl Oz 200 ppm Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth 2-3 times a day Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day Other Ingredients: nano distilled water - I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard back. This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a day. My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver. The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is? Thanks for any feedback, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292
*I've a question I hope someone can answer.* One seller of nanosilver, Purest Colloids. Internet URL is purestcolloids.com, says that theirs is a better-than-most colloidal silver because their silver particles are smaller, and there is almost no ionic silver in the solution. They call it mesosilver because of the process used. They have all sorts of studies available, plus the make other colloidal suspensions than just silver. Anyway, some others insist that ionic silver is the part that has the antibiotic effect. THAT can be made at home, I know, but it's silver dissolved in solution, it is NOT a colloidal suspension. So which one should we buy? I'm looking at the added expense of buying one of each and using both. ONE of them has to be wrong, but which one? Thanks! Ian On 7/27/2012 7:51 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
CSSilver + DMSO
Thanks Lena. I am now also wondering, since DMSO crosses the blood brain barrier, if we mix it with EIS/CS, is there a possibility of some of the EIS/CS being stuck in the brain? Is there also a possibility of this if we use CS/MSM? Thanks. Melly
Re: CSSilver + DMSO
Hi Melly, That's a good question. I don't know. I have acquired a deep trust in Marc Fett (moderator at lymestrateg...@yahoogroups.com) and his research and documenting of anecdotal material, so when he mentioned this adjunct of CS and MSM under the tongue, I didn't hesitate. I've been using CS for 4 years now, with no ill effects and many benefits, so if it's stuck in my brain, I'm grateful. I hope that doesn't sound flippant. I honestly don't know. Maybe a good question for Marc. Be well, Léna On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Thanks Lena. I am now also wondering, since DMSO crosses the blood brain barrier, if we mix it with EIS/CS, is there a possibility of some of the EIS/CS being stuck in the brain? Is there also a possibility of this if we use CS/MSM? Thanks. Melly
RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292
Ian, I make my own solution of ionic silver and it works quite well most of the time. The absolute best and most effective silver I have found is silver tetroxide (Guardian Silver Sol). Google for info. It saved my life and the life of my dog. I suffered from a ptomaine poisoning from bad chicken. this got rid of it in a few hours. My dog had a mucoseal. an infection of the lining of his gall bladder. Usually requires surgery and antibiotics. I cured my 15 year old dog in two days with it. Amazing stuff. _ From: Ian MacLeod [mailto:heyo...@crestviewcable.com] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292 I've a question I hope someone can answer. One seller of nanosilver, Purest Colloids. Internet URL is purestcolloids.com, says that theirs is a better-than-most colloidal silver because their silver particles are smaller, and there is almost no ionic silver in the solution. They call it mesosilver because of the process used. They have all sorts of studies available, plus the make other colloidal suspensions than just silver. Anyway, some others insist that ionic silver is the part that has the antibiotic effect. THAT can be made at home, I know, but it's silver dissolved in solution, it is NOT a colloidal suspension. So which one should we buy? I'm looking at the added expense of buying one of each and using both. ONE of them has to be wrong, but which one? Thanks! Ian On 7/27/2012 7:51 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
CSDr Oz plugs CS...
Nice to see a Dr publicly promoting CS: http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/has-montel-williams-discovered-fountai n-youth?video=12146 Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292
Hi Ian, Those of us who have already been through what you are going through in terms of choosing which CS is the best will tell you the same, brew some at home with care and attention. The whole setup if done very simple with 3 nine volt batteries and a resister will cost you the same as one single bottle of commercial CS. And since it will have ionic and particulate elements will serve to provide you with both and you ca produce as much as you like then! And also care and share with those around you. If you are able, you could change the setup for a 'fancy' current controlled one with one single ic with three pins that costs under 2 dollars Or buy one of the excellent units some of our members offer. Please do not be put off with making your own CS, most commercial stuff will only be at best as good as your own home made stuff ( if made well). The tetra silver is one people had reported good results with. Other than that there's not much to differentiate the others other than marketing and sometimes misrepresentation of their product. There's very little difference in genuinely colloidal silver with ionic and some particulate matter. So there's no need to over analyse the situation. Best of luck Peace to all Asif. On 28 Jul 2012, at 03:09, Ian MacLeod heyo...@crestviewcable.com wrote: I've a question I hope someone can answer. One seller of nanosilver, Purest Colloids. Internet URL is purestcolloids.com, says that theirs is a better-than-most colloidal silver because their silver particles are smaller, and there is almost no ionic silver in the solution. They call it mesosilver because of the process used. They have all sorts of studies available, plus the make other colloidal suspensions than just silver. Anyway, some others insist that ionic silver is the part that has the antibiotic effect. THAT can be made at home, I know, but it's silver dissolved in solution, it is NOT a colloidal suspension. So which one should we buy? I'm looking at the added expense of buying one of each and using both. ONE of them has to be wrong, but which one? Thanks! Ian On 7/27/2012 7:51 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS
this should work: https://webmail.west.cox.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.doctoroz.com%252Fepisode%252Fhas-montel-williams-discovered-fountain-youth%253Fvideo%253D12146 Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS
that did not work Scotty Have a great day! --- On Fri, 7/27/12, Steve Levine scl...@cox.net wrote: From: Steve Levine scl...@cox.net Subject: CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 27, 2012, 8:52 PM this should work: https://webmail.west.cox.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.doctoroz.com%252Fepisode%252Fhas-montel-williams-discovered-fountain-youth%253Fvideo%253D12146 Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS
http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/has-montel-williams-discovered-fountain-youth?video=12146 Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote: = that did not work Scotty Have a great day! --- On Fri, 7/27/12, Steve Levine scl...@cox.net wrote: From: Steve Levine scl...@cox.net Subject: CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 27, 2012, 8:52 PM this should work: https://webmail.west.cox.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.doctoroz.com%252Fepisode%252Fhas-montel-williams-discovered-fountain-youth%253Fvideo%253D12146 Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com