Re: CSMSM CS

2012-07-27 Thread Dan Nave
Some time ago, I bought a pint of DMSO and purified it by letting it sit
in the refrigerator so that the DMSO freezes, but the water with the
impurities in it remains liquid.  Then I poured off the liquid portion and
what was left in the bottle was very pure DMSO.  I also tried to purify
what was poured off the same way in a second bottle, and succeeded to some
extent, but the second batch still had some of the smell.  I went ahead and
used that and could still smell/taste the characteristic disgusting
smell/taste but, when that was finished and I went back to the first batch
of pruified DMSO, I was very surprised that I could detect almost none of
the taste/smell upon using it.  I haven't used it orally though, and I
don't swallow it.

People that need to use a lot of DMSO or take it orally should definitely
try this method, if only out of respect for other people.

I think that second batch could have been further purified by doing the
process again, and perhaps adding a couple of percent (by volume)  of
distilled water and shaking before refreezing to dissolve out the
impurities.

It freezes in the refrigerator, not the freezer.  You don't want to get it
cold enough to freeze the water.  Also, it works better if there is not too
much water in the mix.  I don't know if it would work with 50% DMSO and 50%
water, for instance.

Dan

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Good question! I've been meaning to ask Marc about this and other things
 that the stomach might alter or interfere with. DMSO and MSM are similar in
 lots of ways, although DMSO is 'smellier' for a lot of people. Actually,
 You can put DMSO just about anywhere and it will go everywhere. I put it on
 my knee, topically and within 40 minutes I'm tasting it: that odd
 clam/garlic taste.
 I also use Brook's mix: 75% CS, 15% Glycerine, 10%DMSO in glass roll-ons I
 get from eBay.

 On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Melly Bag wrote:

 i wonder if DMSO plus CS under the tongue would have better effect than
 MSM  silver.

 Melly





Re: CSACS 200

2012-07-27 Thread Dan Nave
Nano distilled water is made out of Bullshit...

Dan

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone familiar with this product?


 The label says:
 -

 ACS 200
 Extra Strength
 Advanced Cellular Silver
 2 Fl Oz 200 ppm

 Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth  2-3 times a day
 Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day

 Other Ingredients: nano distilled water

 -


 I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say
 colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the
 company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have
 a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard
 back.

 This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for
 treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a
 day.

 My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any
 silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be
 silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation
 that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver.

 The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which
 leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is?

 Thanks for any feedback,

 Garnet


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Re: CSACS 200

2012-07-27 Thread Janet Perry
Do you know anything about this product?

Is the list unusually quiet btw?

Thanks,

Garnet
On Jul 27, 2012 9:49 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nano distilled water is made out of Bullshit...

 Dan

 On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Anyone familiar with this product?
 
 
  The label says:
  -
 
  ACS 200
  Extra Strength
  Advanced Cellular Silver
  2 Fl Oz 200 ppm
 
  Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth  2-3 times a day
  Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day
 
  Other Ingredients: nano distilled water
 
  -
 
 
  I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not
 say
  colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the
  company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would
 have
  a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not
 heard
  back.
 
  This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for
  treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a
  day.
 
  My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that
 any
  silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be
  silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a
 preparation
  that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver.
 
  The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water
 which
  leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is?
 
  Thanks for any feedback,
 
  Garnet
 
 
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Re: CSMSM CS

2012-07-27 Thread Janet R. Perry
I respectfully question whether you are actually using DMSO if you are 
not getting the garlic odor. That odor is from dimethylsulfide, a break 
down product of DMSO in the body. DMSO is DimethylSulfoxide, it can only 
break down to DMS, among other products. Some people do not experience 
the taste or odor possibly due to their particular metabolism or detox 
practices, such as using chlorophyll for example.


groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

DMSO List Owner

Janet R. Perry, MA
Wellness Consultant

Peoples Pharmacy
ja...@peoplesrx.com
Wellness Consultant
Austin, Texas
512.585.1320


On 7/27/12 9:46 AM, Dan Nave wrote:
Some time ago, I bought a pint of DMSO and purified it by letting it 
sit in the refrigerator so that the DMSO freezes, but the water with 
the impurities in it remains liquid.  Then I poured off the liquid 
portion and what was left in the bottle was very pure DMSO.  I also 
tried to purify what was poured off the same way in a second bottle, 
and succeeded to some extent, but the second batch still had some of 
the smell.  I went ahead and used that and could still smell/taste the 
characteristic disgusting smell/taste but, when that was finished and 
I went back to the first batch of pruified DMSO, I was very surprised 
that I could detect almost none of the taste/smell upon using it.  I 
haven't used it orally though, and I don't swallow it.


People that need to use a lot of DMSO or take it orally should 
definitely try this method, if only out of respect for other people.


I think that second batch could have been further purified by doing 
the process again, and perhaps adding a couple of percent (by volume) 
 of distilled water and shaking before refreezing to dissolve out the 
impurities.


It freezes in the refrigerator, not the freezer.  You don't want to 
get it cold enough to freeze the water.  Also, it works better if 
there is not too much water in the mix.  I don't know if it would work 
with 50% DMSO and 50% water, for instance.


Dan

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com 
mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:


Good question! I've been meaning to ask Marc about this and other
things that the stomach might alter or interfere with. DMSO and
MSM are similar in lots of ways, although DMSO is 'smellier' for a
lot of people. Actually, You can put DMSO just about anywhere and
it will go everywhere. I put it on my knee, topically and within
40 minutes I'm tasting it: that odd clam/garlic taste.
I also use Brook's mix: 75% CS, 15% Glycerine, 10%DMSO in glass
roll-ons I get from eBay.

On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Melly Bag wrote:


i wonder if DMSO plus CS under the tongue would have better
effect than MSM  silver.
Melly






RE: CSMSM CS

2012-07-27 Thread PTFerrance
What was the original purity level of the DMSO you used?

Thanks,

PT

 

From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM CS

 

Some time ago, I bought a pint of DMSO and purified it by letting it sit in 
the refrigerator so that the DMSO freezes, but the water with the impurities in 
it remains liquid.  Then I poured off the liquid portion and what was left in 
the bottle was very pure DMSO.  I also tried to purify what was poured off the 
same way in a second bottle, and succeeded to some extent, but the second batch 
still had some of the smell.  I went ahead and used that and could still 
smell/taste the characteristic disgusting smell/taste but, when that was 
finished and I went back to the first batch of pruified DMSO, I was very 
surprised that I could detect almost none of the taste/smell upon using it.  I 
haven't used it orally though, and I don't swallow it.

 

People that need to use a lot of DMSO or take it orally should definitely try 
this method, if only out of respect for other people.

 

I think that second batch could have been further purified by doing the process 
again, and perhaps adding a couple of percent (by volume)  of distilled water 
and shaking before refreezing to dissolve out the impurities.

 

It freezes in the refrigerator, not the freezer.  You don't want to get it cold 
enough to freeze the water.  Also, it works better if there is not too much 
water in the mix.  I don't know if it would work with 50% DMSO and 50% water, 
for instance.

 

Dan

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

Good question! I've been meaning to ask Marc about this and other things that 
the stomach might alter or interfere with. DMSO and MSM are similar in lots of 
ways, although DMSO is 'smellier' for a lot of people. Actually, You can put 
DMSO just about anywhere and it will go everywhere. I put it on my knee, 
topically and within 40 minutes I'm tasting it: that odd clam/garlic taste.

I also use Brook's mix: 75% CS, 15% Glycerine, 10%DMSO in glass roll-ons I get 
from eBay. 

 

On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Melly Bag wrote:






i wonder if DMSO plus CS under the tongue would have better effect than MSM  
silver.

 

Melly

 

 

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Re: CSACS 200

2012-07-27 Thread Lena Guyot
LOL! And what kind of bull? L
On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Dan Nave wrote:

 Nano distilled water is made out of Bullshit...
 
 Dan
 
 On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Anyone familiar with this product?
 
 
 The label says:
 -
 
 ACS 200
 Extra Strength
 Advanced Cellular Silver
 2 Fl Oz 200 ppm
 
 Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth  2-3 times a day
 Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day
 
 Other Ingredients: nano distilled water
 
 -
 
 
 I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say
 colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the
 company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have
 a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard
 back.
 
 This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for
 treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a
 day.
 
 My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any
 silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be
 silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation
 that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver.
 
 The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which
 leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is?
 
 Thanks for any feedback,
 
 Garnet
 
 
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Re: CSACS 200

2012-07-27 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Sounds like a promotion add to me... CS is CS, some has more silver than 
others, thus the ppm is higher, but not always needed.

Tel Tofflemire

 



 From: Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:58 AM
Subject: CSACS 200
 
Anyone familiar with this product?


The label says:
-

ACS 200
Extra Strength
Advanced Cellular Silver
2 Fl Oz 200 ppm

Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth  2-3 times a day
Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day

Other Ingredients: nano distilled water

-


I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say 
colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the company 
the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have a 
technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard back.

This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for treating 
chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a day.

My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any 
silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be silver 
protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation that is not 
colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver.

The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which 
leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is?

Thanks for any feedback,

Garnet


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Re: CSACS 200

2012-07-27 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Its sounds like an add, all cs has silver, some more than others, but they all 
are good and more is not always better.

 
Tel Tofflemire




 From: Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:58 AM
Subject: CSACS 200
 
Anyone familiar with this product?


The label says:
-

ACS 200
Extra Strength
Advanced Cellular Silver
2 Fl Oz 200 ppm

Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth  2-3 times a day
Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day

Other Ingredients: nano distilled water

-


I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say 
colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the company 
the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would have a 
technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not heard back.

This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for treating 
chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a day.

My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any 
silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be silver 
protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation that is not 
colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver.

The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water which 
leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is?

Thanks for any feedback,

Garnet


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Re: CSACS 200

2012-07-27 Thread David AuBuchon
Last I checked, Frank measured it at about 60PPM.  And ACS200 is also sold
under some other label name that I forget that specifies more like 60PPM
silver.

David

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Its sounds like an add, all cs has silver, some more than others, but they
 all are good and more is not always better.

 Tel Tofflemire

   --
 *From:* Janet R. Perry janetrpe...@gmail.com
 *To:* Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:58 AM
 *Subject:* CSACS 200

 Anyone familiar with this product?


 The label says:
 -

 ACS 200
 Extra Strength
 Advanced Cellular Silver
 2 Fl Oz 200 ppm

 Maintenance: 5 sprays by mouth  2-3 times a day
 Higher Dose: 10 Sprays 4 times a day

 Other Ingredients: nano distilled water

 -


 I would love to hear any feedback on what exactly this is. It does not say
 colloidal or silver-protein anywhere on the bottle. When I called the
 company the rep said he did not know if it was silver protein and would
 have a technical person contact me. That was over a week ago and I have not
 heard back.

 This was recommended to a friend of mine by a nurse practitioner for
 treating chronic Lyme Disease. He was told to take 10 sprays 3-4 times a
 day.

 My understanding, and please someone correct me if I am wrong, is that any
 silver solution this high in concentration (over 20 or 30 ppm?) must be
 silver protein or some other silver compound, in other words a preparation
 that is not colloidal or ionic or monoatomic silver.

 The ingredients list does say Other Ingredients: nano distilled water
 which leaves me wondering what nano distilled water is?

 Thanks for any feedback,

 Garnet


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292

2012-07-27 Thread Ian MacLeod
*I've a question I hope someone can answer.* One seller of nanosilver, 
Purest Colloids. Internet URL is purestcolloids.com, says that 
theirs is a better-than-most colloidal silver because their silver 
particles are smaller, and there is almost no ionic silver in the 
solution. They call it mesosilver because of the process used. They 
have all sorts of studies available, plus the make other colloidal 
suspensions than just silver. Anyway, some others insist that ionic 
silver is the part that has the antibiotic effect. THAT can be made at 
home, I know, but it's silver dissolved in solution, it is NOT a 
colloidal suspension. So which one should we buy? I'm looking at the 
added expense of buying one of each and using both. ONE of them has to 
be wrong, but which one?


Thanks!

Ian



On 7/27/2012 7:51 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:



CSSilver + DMSO

2012-07-27 Thread Melly Bag
Thanks Lena. 
 
I am now also wondering, since DMSO crosses the blood brain barrier, if  we mix 
it with EIS/CS, is there a possibility of some of the EIS/CS being stuck in the 
brain?  Is there also a possibility of this if we use CS/MSM?
 
Thanks.
 
Melly

Re: CSSilver + DMSO

2012-07-27 Thread Lena Guyot
Hi Melly, 
That's a good question. I don't know. I have acquired a deep trust in Marc Fett 
(moderator at lymestrateg...@yahoogroups.com) and his research and documenting 
of anecdotal material, so when he mentioned this adjunct of CS and MSM under 
the tongue, I didn't hesitate. I've been using CS for 4 years now, with no ill 
effects and many benefits, so if it's stuck in my brain, I'm grateful. I hope 
that doesn't sound flippant. I honestly don't know. Maybe a good question for 
Marc.

Be well,
Léna
On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Melly Bag wrote:

 Thanks Lena. 
  
 I am now also wondering, since DMSO crosses the blood brain barrier, if  we 
 mix it with EIS/CS, is there a possibility of some of the EIS/CS being stuck 
 in the brain?  Is there also a possibility of this if we use CS/MSM?
  
 Thanks.
  
 Melly



RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292

2012-07-27 Thread Bob Banever
Ian,

 

   I make my own solution of ionic silver and it works quite well most of
the time.  The absolute best and most effective silver I have found is
silver tetroxide (Guardian Silver Sol).  Google for info.  It saved my life
and the life of my dog.  I suffered from a ptomaine poisoning from bad
chicken. this got rid of it in a few hours.  My dog had a mucoseal. an
infection of the lining of his gall bladder.  Usually requires surgery and
antibiotics. I cured my 15 year old dog in two days with it.  Amazing stuff.

 

  _  

From: Ian MacLeod [mailto:heyo...@crestviewcable.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292

 

I've a question I hope someone can answer. One seller of nanosilver, Purest
Colloids. Internet URL is purestcolloids.com, says that theirs is a
better-than-most colloidal silver because their silver particles are
smaller, and there is almost no ionic silver in the solution. They call it
mesosilver because of the process used. They have all sorts of studies
available, plus the make other colloidal suspensions than just silver.
Anyway, some others insist that ionic silver is the part that has the
antibiotic effect. THAT can be made at home, I know, but it's silver
dissolved in solution, it is NOT a colloidal suspension. So which one should
we buy? I'm looking at the added expense of buying one of each and using
both. ONE of them has to be wrong, but which one?

Thanks!

Ian 


 

On 7/27/2012 7:51 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:

 



CSDr Oz plugs CS...

2012-07-27 Thread Steve Levine
Nice to see a Dr publicly promoting CS:

http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/has-montel-williams-discovered-fountai
n-youth?video=12146 
 
Steve


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292

2012-07-27 Thread Asif Nathekar
Hi Ian,
Those of us who have already been through what you are going through in terms 
of choosing which CS is the best will tell you the same, brew some at home with 
care and attention. 
The whole setup if done very simple with 3 nine volt batteries and a resister 
will cost you the same as one single bottle of commercial CS. And since it will 
have ionic and particulate elements will serve to provide you with both and you 
ca produce as much as you like then! And also care and share with those around 
you.

If you are able, you could change the setup for a 'fancy' current controlled 
one with one single ic with three pins that costs under 2 dollars

Or buy one of the excellent units some of our members offer.

Please do not be put off with making your own CS, most commercial stuff will 
only be at best as good as your own home made stuff ( if made well).
The tetra silver is one people had reported good results with. Other than that 
there's not much to differentiate the  others other than marketing and 
sometimes misrepresentation of their product.
There's very little difference in genuinely colloidal silver with ionic and 
some particulate matter. So there's no need to over analyse the situation.

Best of luck

Peace to all

Asif.




On 28 Jul 2012, at 03:09, Ian MacLeod heyo...@crestviewcable.com wrote:

 I've a question I hope someone can answer. One seller of nanosilver, Purest 
 Colloids. Internet URL is purestcolloids.com, says that theirs is a 
 better-than-most colloidal silver because their silver particles are smaller, 
 and there is almost no ionic silver in the solution. They call it 
 mesosilver because of the process used. They have all sorts of studies 
 available, plus the make other colloidal suspensions than just silver. 
 Anyway, some others insist that ionic silver is the part that has the 
 antibiotic effect. THAT can be made at home, I know, but it's silver 
 dissolved in solution, it is NOT a colloidal suspension. So which one should 
 we buy? I'm looking at the added expense of buying one of each and using 
 both. ONE of them has to be wrong, but which one?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Ian 
 
 
  
 On 7/27/2012 7:51 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
 


CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS

2012-07-27 Thread Steve Levine
this should work:

https://webmail.west.cox.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.doctoroz.com%252Fepisode%252Fhas-montel-williams-discovered-fountain-youth%253Fvideo%253D12146

Steve


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Re: CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS

2012-07-27 Thread Scotty
that did not work



Scotty
Have a great day!

 


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From: Steve Levine scl...@cox.net
Subject: CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, July 27, 2012, 8:52 PM


this should work:

https://webmail.west.cox.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.doctoroz.com%252Fepisode%252Fhas-montel-williams-discovered-fountain-youth%253Fvideo%253D12146

Steve


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Re: CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS

2012-07-27 Thread Steve Levine
http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/has-montel-williams-discovered-fountain-youth?video=12146
 Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote: 

=
that did not work



Scotty
Have a great day!

 


--- On Fri, 7/27/12, Steve Levine scl...@cox.net wrote:


From: Steve Levine scl...@cox.net
Subject: CScorrect link for Dr Oz on CS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, July 27, 2012, 8:52 PM


this should work:

https://webmail.west.cox.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.doctoroz.com%252Fepisode%252Fhas-montel-williams-discovered-fountain-youth%253Fvideo%253D12146

Steve


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