CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM
I haven't repeated my method in a while, so here it is: I mist my eyes and inhale the mist while doing so, and also mist my hands. I do this whenever I get back to my car after being in public. I have been known to whip out a mister bottle of CS and start spraying myself whenever anyone coughs or sneezes near me in a store. I have no shame, LOL. Other than once when I had stopped misting for a couple weeks several years ago, I haven't had a cold nor a single instance of the flu in about 9 years now. My personal experience of a lifetime is that I am very susceptible to those viruses, and prior to CS used to get colds every year, which sometimes went to bronchitis. When I got the cold from lack of misting, it was difficult to get rid of, took around 3 weeks of misery so for me the small inconvenience of misting is well worth it. The best thing is not to get the cold or flu in the first place. sol James McDonald wrote: Have had excellent results in knocking out flu colds with nebulizing silver. My wife has not had an upper resp infection in over two years!! ** -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM
I understand your actions! I was waiting (and waiting) for my son today who decided to visit a doctor with chest pain after a motor bike accident 5 days ago, with a child opposite me sneezing and sneezing, wondering what I could grab to counteract all the germs!! Doctors' waiting rooms - what a great place to get more customers. Jane I haven't repeated my method in a while, so here it is: I mist my eyes and inhale the mist while doing so, and also mist my hands. I do this whenever I get back to my car after being in public. I have been known to whip out a mister bottle of CS and start spraying myself whenever anyone coughs or sneezes near me in a store. I have no shame, LOL. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp
I TOLD YOU GOOGLE WISHGRANTED IT IS THE NAME OF TE CO WHO MAKES THE COLLOIDAL-MASTER SILVER GENERATOR. Tel Tofflemire From: James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:08 PM Subject: Re: CShelp To make colloidal silver the plates/rods/wires will be used up or you will not be making colloidal/ionic silver. Particules of silver have to go into the distilled water for there to be silver in the water!! From: Joe Crook j.crooksoluti...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: CShelp I am a big advocate of cs. I have been taking it for several yrs with much success. while at my uncles house last week he showed me a generator he found through this discussion. It was a 5 gal plastic tub with a spout. The generator was fixed to the top with plates I presume, they were not consumable rods ( which I liked this feature very much ) . He has been making 10 ppm - 20 ppm for several yrs now. He has not been sick in over 7 yrs. Could someone possible point me in the right direction to find this generator. Thank you. Many blessings.
Re: CSCalling Tel
I AM ON YAHOO.COM MOST OF THE TIME. MY WEBSITE IS (WWW.QUAIWOODHERBAL.COM) BUT THAT WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH PAYPAL AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANT THAT ! YOU CAN CALL ME AT -505-899-3489- MOST ANYTIME. Tel Tofflemire From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:20 PM Subject: CSCalling Tel Hey Tel coundnt remember your sight or how to get in touch. Answer when you can so we can settle up Thanks gary -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CShelp
Sounds like Silvergen to me http://www.silvergen.com/sg7pro.htm Jaxi -- *From:* Joe Crook j.crooksoluti...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 1:59 PM *Subject:* CShelp I am a big advocate of cs. I have been taking it for several yrs with much success. while at my uncles house last week he showed me a generator he found through this discussion. It was a 5 gal plastic tub with a spout. The generator was fixed to the top with plates I presume, they were not consumable rods ( which I liked this feature very much ) . He has been making 10 ppm - 20 ppm for several yrs now. He has not been sick in over 7 yrs. Could someone possible point me in the right direction to find this generator. Thank you. Many blessings.
RE: CSMSM
Marshall, I'm not sure what I have. I haven't had any fever but I'm coughing a lot and in the Am cough up thick mucous. I have felt dizzy, weak, and achy like I have a fever but I don't have one. In any case I've been nebulizing 3 - 4 times daily and ingesting about 3 - 4 T daily as well. Perhaps I should ingest more? I'm 5 days into this. this is the sickest I've been in over 40 years. Very strange. Thanks for your input. Bob _ From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMSM Everyone in my family has been 100% effective in stopping the flu in its tracks with CS over the last decade. Marshall On 11/23/2012 6:06 PM, Bob Banever wrote: Has anyone had any luck using CS for the flu? If so have you ever nebulized it? I'm suffering from some sort of respiratory infection that came on rather suddenly. Fever of 99F, coughing, dizziness, joint pains etc. Thanks. Bob _ From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMSM GreatSKU.com . He even offered free shipping and no state sales tax to worry about. I bought a bunch of red and green lasers from him with several orders, no problems except it took about one week to receive the orders. My credit card Co. got excited about China purchases, sent me a notice of strange charges. In a message dated 11/22/2012 4:17:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jessi...@optonline.net writes: Brickey, did you buy the lasers from China online? if so what web site? thanks, Jess Thanks, Brickey. Where can I find out more information? No, I did not use Andreas training. bpou...@rogers.com had a bunch of files on lasers/leds which she sent to anyone who asked. My printer was down so I did not save the downloads. She is the Canadian Coordinator, Global Recognition Campaign. Her PC crashed right after she sent me the files. One file I saved is from Light Energy Co, 18005444826 on Healing With Single Frequency Light. He has a web site if you goggle it. Another one is Laser Energetic Detoxification, Eve Greenberg, staff reporter for explore dated November 6, 2006. This is the file that reports on DR Cowdens allergy elimination methods. Brickey _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2629/5414 - Release Date: 11/23/12
CSRain-tree.com goodbye letter
This is the second company giving notification they will fold up due to FDA interference. Leslie Taylor is a well known herbalist. This is truly sad. Melly The Last Ever Raintree Nutrition Sales Coupon Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:21 PM From: Raintree Nutrition i...@rain-tree.comAdd sender to Contacts To: Melly tita_...@yahoo.com We are sadden to inform you that Raintree Nutrition is going out of business. As many of you are aware, we have been prohibited by the FDA of importing our bulk plant materials in from the Amazon to manufacture our products over the last year. Between the additional high costs in meeting new GMP standards, the falling US dollar affecting our import prices, and battling the FDA over our website while still providing our customers with important factual information about our products, we simply cannot go on any longer. Hopefully by early next year, the Tropical Plant Database will be moved back onto the Raintree website and I will maintain the website for the wealth of information it has always provided for the last 16 years. I am gratified that we have done an excellent job in providing this service and encouraging competition because now many of the rainforest plants we've created markets for are available from other suppliers and companies. Once Raintree stops selling products, we will post our formulas on the website product pages so our customers can make their own formulas if they care to. The FDA may be able to stop us from selling products but they cannot stop us from providing factual information free of charge. If feasible, when I redesign the Raintree website, I will install message boards or discussion forums so you can finally share your experiences and results with these plants and formulas (that has been silenced by the FDA for all these years). So while the Raintree manufactured formulas might disappear, their legacy will live on and people around the world will continue to benefit from these incredible rainforest plants. While we are out of inventory on many of our most popular products, beginning today, all remaining inventory will be available at a 15% discount, until inventory sells out. If you are wanting to make your own formulas after ours sells out, don't forget to order the bulk 1 pound packages of herbs while they last. This coupon goes into effect immediately. To activate the coupon, just follow this link: http://www.nexternal.com/raintree/?Coupon=final or go to our main product page at http://www.rain-tree.com/rtmprod.htm and the coupon will be activated automatically when you click on any buy button. We would like to sincerely thank you for your support of our company and mission over these many years. We would also like wish you a Merry Christmas and many happy new years to come. Sincerely, Leslie Taylor and the dedicated staff of Raintree Nutrition. Raintree Nutrition 3579 Hwy 50 East, Suite 222 Carson City, NV 89701 http://www.rain-tree.com (800) 780-5902 i...@rain-tree.com
Re: CSMSM
CS hasn't failed to clear the flu overnight. We don't have a nebuliser but it works also with larger droplets mixed, like a cool mist room vaporiser, the spinning/rotor type. all good, Duncan
CSCough
Bob, Someone told me mixing a bit of MSM and CS in nebulizer works fast even for pneumonia. Maybe someone in the list can let us know the proportions to be used. Melly
RE: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM
I purposely expose myself to anyone who has the wog in an attempt to see if I can catch it, but all attempts have failed to date. I believe if one wants to prevent the wog one should be doing as I do, ingesting a small quantity of EIS every morning, and if one thinks they may be feeling the wog coming on, just up that quantity to 250ml or so twice a day and it stops it in 24-48 hours. I actually did this about 2 years ago when I believed I was catching the wog. Whatever it was, my EIS stopped it progressing anyway. I welcome people sneezing or coughing etc all over me as proof that my daily ritual works, and it seems to have worked for several years now, not too much wrong with my immune system it appears anyway g. N. From: highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS for colds and flu, was Re: CSMSM Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:59:38 +1100 I understand your actions! I was waiting (and waiting) for my son today who decided to visit a doctor with chest pain after a motor bike accident 5 days ago, with a child opposite me sneezing and sneezing, wondering what I could grab to counteract all the germs!! Doctors' waiting rooms - what a great place to get more customers. Jane I haven't repeated my method in a while, so here it is: I mist my eyes and inhale the mist while doing so, and also mist my hands. I do this whenever I get back to my car after being in public. I have been known to whip out a mister bottle of CS and start spraying myself whenever anyone coughs or sneezes near me in a store. I have no shame, LOL. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMSM
Don't know how much you're taking so I'll suggest you make a fresh 250-300ml {8
ounce roughly} glass each morning and ingest it as soon as it's made. Do this
for 3-5 days and see how you get on.
N.
From: bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSMSM
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:56:28 -0800
Marshall,
I’m not sure what I have. I
haven’t had any fever but I’m coughing a lot and in the Am cough up
thick mucous. I have felt dizzy, weak, and achy like I have a fever but I don’t
have one. In any case I’ve been nebulizing 3 – 4 times daily and
ingesting about 3 – 4 T daily as well. Perhaps I should ingest more? I’m
5 days into this… this is the sickest I’ve been in over 40 years.
Very strange. Thanks for your input.
Bob
From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012
8:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM
Everyone in my family has been 100% effective in
stopping the flu in its tracks with CS over the last decade.
Marshall
On 11/23/2012 6:06 PM, Bob Banever wrote:
Has
anyone had any luck using CS for the flu? If so have you ever nebulized
it? I’m suffering from some sort of respiratory infection that came
on rather suddenly. Fever of 99F, coughing, dizziness, joint pains
etc. Thanks.
Bob
CSClinical research, DSHEA, and marketing of CS
I took a look at the FTCs discussion of DSHEA: http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus09-dietary-supplements-advertising-guide-industry As I understand it, as long as colloidal silver discussion is very detailed, accurate, and discussed in adequate context, we can say everything we need to while still following the letter of the law. The document says: The FDA has primary responsibility for claims on product labeling, including packaging, inserts, and other promotional materials distributed at the point of sale. and it says: The FTC has primary responsibility for claims in advertising, including print and broadcast ads, infomercials, catalogs, and similar direct marketing materials. Marketing on the Internet is subject to regulation in the same fashion as promotions through any other media. What I get from this document as a whole is that the following approach might satisfy everyone: 1. Don't include any package inserts or make claims on labels or packaging. This in theory satisfies the FDA part of the picture. 2. Have all the marketing material you want on the website where product it sold - such as quotations from physicians, informal clinical studies, testimonials, etc, as long as you discuss it in a thorough enough context. Help consumers understand the problems with interpreting information, and how this or that is not undeniable proof of anything, but just information to be subjectively assessed while keeping XYZ in mind. I for one cannot really say that I have seen any vendor truly make a thorough enough attempt to adequately contextualize what can be be construed as medical claims by the FTC or the FDA. The way those FTC guidelines on DSHEA are written, it seems to me that as long as you put the necessary context, disclosures, disclaimers, or other balancing information, one could follow the letter of the law while still getting all the information across that you want to. I wonder if there really may exist a happy medium that frankly everyone has so far been missing? Though I guess that in the end, if the FDA wants to send you a letter, they will do so even if you follow the letter of the law... Part of the reason I am thinking more and more about these issues is that I am seriously starting to consider getting a certificate as a clinical research associate and just rolling up my sleeves and doing whatever it then takes to do clinical research on a number of things, starting with CS. To do clinical research that satisfies main stream journals can be mind boggling. But to do research that is meaningful to the average joe is not so hard. Such research could be cited by CS vendors as long as they put it in proper context (i.e. this is not really proof...FDA does not recognize CS...there was no control group...this and that make it more difficult to draw conclustions,... etc). An example: imagine say 20 patients with say HIV just took a bunch of CS and their local docs supplied before and after blood tests showing improvements. Mainstream journals may laugh such a study off as being very inadequate for many reasons, but I think many of the more natural medicine type of journals would readily publish such research, and I think vendors and consumers would find it valuable. It could be cited on websites, as long as it is done tactfully. There are some other potential problems I see with researching CS that I am not sure what to make of: You need to file for IND (investigational new drug) approval if the supplement being studied is used in a diseased population. You don't need to file for an IND if a supplement is studied in a healthy population. But this makes it hard to show health benefits. That is a catch 22 if you ask me. So the trick is how to design a study that shows real health benefit, but looks like it does not need approval as an investigational drug, but remains a supplement. Some suggest you get a population that is not diseased, but at-risk, and show benefits with them. Even then, if the FDA wants to say you've invented a drug and not a supplement, I guess they can anyway. So the next option is to just screw it and do a study anyway in a diseased population and not file for an IND. I don't know what the possible repercussions of that are though. But one site warns that this may help to get a supplement classified as a drug across an entire industry, thereby making things more difficult for others. But seeing as how there already is an FDA ruling on colloidal silver and that they say you can market it as a supplement as long as it is without medical claims, I doubt that is a problem. I get the feeling about clinical research is that probably a ton of published research don't follow all the rules and regulations down to a T, and no one checks, and even if someone checks, at most people become more incredulous about the results. Regardless, why does it have to be so complicated!? In the end,
