Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
Pardon? dee From: mborg...@att.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 06:49:45 -0800 (PST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 06:49:45 -0800 Vit. d is mouse a poison From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?(Do they mean Coumadin?) - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Pardon? dee -- From: mborg...@att.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 06:49:45 -0800 (PST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 06:49:45 -0800 Vit. d is mouse a poison -- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5439 - Release Date: 12/05/12
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
So I suppose the answer is in the case of normal¹ health, to use as natural as possible and in moderation? Food for thought? dee I dont get the impression that liposome Vit C is bad for the immune system, although the harder or stabilized liposomes have shown to create dramatic if transient spleen and liver enlargement as well as transient depression of phagocyte response. FDA is not careful to stop many toxic drugs from being marketed. My humble thought is that if you feel good taking your liposome C and Curcumin, then continue. Nothing is very simple with the body and vitamins though. For example, minerals exist in a tight interactive web of sorts such that taking more of one may deplete others. Is calcium good for bones? If yes, then why do some studies show that low calcium consuming native populations have better bone density than high calcium consumers? Should we then stop taking calcium, or instead try for a balance with magnesium and all the others? For the most part, the questions are resolved by eating and living naturally. If you are trying to battle a cancer or something, there could be a good reason to take lipo C. But if you simply feel better taking it, then thats a good sign. I tried sending this before, excuse me if it is a repost; MPS = mononuclear phagocyte system
thuja tincture, was Re: CSSolution for warts?
Jane MacRoss wrote: *THUJA TINCTURE!!* ** Seriously yes, I shouted. Jane, I forgot if you mean to say take Thuja tincture orally or apply topically to the wart? thx, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
absolutely, I used to sell it was called vitamin d3 mouse poison by tom cat I think it is still made. I can't believe people are taking this stuff along with warfin. Besides causing internal bleeding It also raises the calcium in the blood so it is free to travel anywhere. I am a health coach, I cannot tell you the amount of people who have called and wondered why they were in the hospital and lost 3 pints of blood, first thing I ask do you take vit d always the answer is yes. This is not a vitamin it is a hormone. Do your research. From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 9:41:12 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Hey sorry to interject but vit D is a mouse poison?? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: What is MPS function? TIA On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:49 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Vit. d is mouse a poison From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800 AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
But Vitamin D3 is being lauded by even people like Dr Mercola who I have great respect for as a great must¹ for health! It is saidby many eminent people, that it is very necessary for health, and that people with cancer have a deficiency in it. We should get it from the sun but do not in enough quantity, which is why the deficiency. Have you any information about this because all the research I do says that Vit D3 is really good. Dee PS not Vit D2 I hasten to add! From: mborg...@att.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:13:26 -0800 (PST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:13:29 -0800 absolutely, I used to sell it was called vitamin d3 mouse poison by tom cat I think it is still made. I can't believe people are taking this stuff along with warfin. Besides causing internal bleeding It also raises the calcium in the blood so it is free to travel anywhere. I am a health coach, I cannot tell you the amount of people who have called and wondered why they were in the hospital and lost 3 pints of blood, first thing I ask do you take vit d always the answer is yes. This is not a vitamin it is a hormone. Do your research. From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 9:41:12 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Hey sorry to interject but vit D is a mouse poison?? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: What is MPS function? TIA On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:49 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Vit. d is mouse a poison From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800 AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
I just found the article and it is the dosage which is toxic to micenot to humans, is crucial. It is a human hormone cholecalciferol and it is toxic in high amounts to rodents. I doubt that humans would take a proportionate amount of this to do this sort of damage unless they were taking Warfarin or the like. dee From: mborg...@att.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:13:26 -0800 (PST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:13:29 -0800 absolutely, I used to sell it was called vitamin d3 mouse poison by tom cat I think it is still made. I can't believe people are taking this stuff along with warfin. Besides causing internal bleeding It also raises the calcium in the blood so it is free to travel anywhere. I am a health coach, I cannot tell you the amount of people who have called and wondered why they were in the hospital and lost 3 pints of blood, first thing I ask do you take vit d always the answer is yes. This is not a vitamin it is a hormone. Do your research. From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 9:41:12 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Hey sorry to interject but vit D is a mouse poison?? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: What is MPS function? TIA On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:49 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Vit. d is mouse a poison From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800 AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
CSSuggestions for Baby?
Can anyone tell me what a SAFE amount to give a 1-year old baby? Both as an antibiotic AND for keeping up with his health. I have many concerns about him at the moment and he is supposed to go for a wellness visit in a couple of weeks at which time he will be brought up to date with his late vaccines. His twin sister died at 7 months and I have my suspicions about a possible connection. But since he has been VERY raspy lately, I am particularly concerned and am hoping to find solutions to bring his health more up to date before this wellness visit! Thanks for any help you can provide. Valerie
Re: CSSuggestions for Baby?
I'm sure the pro's will chime in on the dosage for the CS...but if I were you I would do the research on the vaccines...they are not good for anyone. Debbie From: Valerie valq22...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:22 PM Subject: CSSuggestions for Baby? Can anyone tell me what a SAFE amount to give a 1-year old baby? Both as an antibiotic AND for keeping up with his health. I have many concerns about him at the moment and he is supposed to go for a wellness visit in a couple of weeks at which time he will be brought up to date with his late vaccines. His twin sister died at 7 months and I have my suspicions about a possible connection. But since he has been VERY raspy lately, I am particularly concerned and am hoping to find solutions to bring his health more up to date before this wellness visit! Thanks for any help you can provide. Valerie
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
Everything including water is bad if it is is taken in too high does, are you claiming that even eating according to the recommendations of FDA is unhealthy? AJ 2012/12/6 mborg...@att.net: absolutely, I used to sell it was called vitamin d3 mouse poison by tom cat I think it is still made. I can't believe people are taking this stuff along with warfin. Besides causing internal bleeding It also raises the calcium in the blood so it is free to travel anywhere. I am a health coach, I cannot tell you the amount of people who have called and wondered why they were in the hospital and lost 3 pints of blood, first thing I ask do you take vit d always the answer is yes. This is not a vitamin it is a hormone. Do your research. From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 9:41:12 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Hey sorry to interject but vit D is a mouse poison?? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: What is MPS function? TIA On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:49 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Vit. d is mouse a poison From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated. Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental to our health - or immune system? dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800 AJ If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system, then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system. Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry. Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CSSuggestions for Baby?
My advice is not professional, rather personal opinion on misc readings. I strongly do not recommend you give this to your baby not because it will be bad, but because your baby is developing his/her inmune system and defense for the rest of his life. Alex On 12/06/2012 11:46 AM, Deborah Gerard wrote: I'm sure the pro's will chime in on the dosage for the CS...but if I were you I would do the research on the vaccines...they are not good for anyone. Debbie *From:* Valerie valq22...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:22 PM *Subject:* CSSuggestions for Baby? Can anyone tell me what a SAFE amount to give a 1-year old baby? Both as an antibiotic AND for keeping up with his health. I have many concerns about him at the moment and he is supposed to go for a wellness visit in a couple of weeks at which time he will be brought up to date with his late vaccines. His twin sister died at 7 months and I have my suspicions about a possible connection. But since he has been VERY raspy lately, I am particularly concerned and am hoping to find solutions to bring his health more up to date before this wellness visit! Thanks for any help you can provide. Valerie
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
André Juthe wrote: Everything including water is bad if it is is taken in too high does, are you claiming that even eating according to the recommendations of FDA is unhealthy? If you mean eating according to the USDA food guidelines, I certainly do think it is un healthy. LOL sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
Ok so the FDA's recommendations of vitamin D3 are very wrong? This is a bold claim. Do you have a some references for this? /AJ 2012/12/6 sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com: André Juthe wrote: Everything including water is bad if it is is taken in too high does, are you claiming that even eating according to the recommendations of FDA is unhealthy? If you mean eating according to the USDA food guidelines, I certainly do think it is un healthy. LOL sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSuggestions for Baby?
Please, please, please do some research on vaccinations. Nuff siad here. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Valerie valq22...@yahoo.com wrote: Can anyone tell me what a SAFE amount to give a 1-year old baby? Both as an antibiotic AND for keeping up with his health. I have many concerns about him at the moment and he is supposed to go for a wellness visit in a couple of weeks at which time he will be brought up to date with his late vaccines. His twin sister died at 7 months and I have my suspicions about a possible connection. But since he has been VERY raspy lately, I am particularly concerned and am hoping to find solutions to bring his health more up to date before this wellness visit! Thanks for any help you can provide. Valerie
CSsuccess with CS?liposomes? rat poison
Vit D releases calcium into the bloodstream which is toxic in higher amounts. Vit D overdose is still a possibility for human. Rodents dont have an aversion to Vit D so rat poison can does them with a large amount proportional to body size. FDA is widely considered corrupted by the pharmaceutical industry. Vitamin levels are often minimal standards and not for optimum health. Some of the standards were set a rather long time ago with limited knowledge of biochemistry compared to today. Some standards also change, for example the proposed optimum nutrition food pyramid, illustrating that even supposedly unbiased standards are prone to error. On 12/6/2012 11:57 AM, André Juthe wrote: Ok so the FDA's recommendations of vitamin D3 are very wrong? This is a bold claim. Do you have a some references for this? /AJ 2012/12/6 sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com: André Juthe wrote: Everything including water is bad if it is is taken in too high does, are you claiming that even eating according to the recommendations of FDA is unhealthy? If you mean eating according to the USDA food guidelines, I certainly do think it is un healthy. LOL sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: thuja tincture, was Re: CSSolution for warts?
Topically to the wart, a small piece of cotton dressing soaked in Thuja, and firmly attached with duct tape to render it light and water proof. So two pieces like a cross works well, or however you can manage. I did this with a friend years ago, to keep the Thuja up to the area I injected (into the dressing only) a tiny bit of Thuja every second or third day without removing the duct tape. I had her keep it on for 6 weeks. Just draw up 5 or 10 ml (cc) of the tincture keep it in the fridge and use the finest thinnest needle. The tape should close over the insertion point. A local surgeon here removed half a patient's foot to eliminate the warts, she would never have been able to walk properly again. Inside of banana skin and or green beans and the moon - all other options - can't remember those details tho! Take care - write if it's not clear enough Jane xx - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 2:47 AM Subject: thuja tincture, was Re: CSSolution for warts? Jane MacRoss wrote: *THUJA TINCTURE!!* ** Seriously yes, I shouted. Jane, I forgot if you mean to say take Thuja tincture orally or apply topically to the wart? thx, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5439 - Release Date: 12/05/12
RE: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
If Vit.D3 is toxic then you'd better stay out of the sun. Your body produces about 10,000 IU's in an hour of sunshine. I've been taking 8000IU's daily for a couple of years with no ill effects that I can feel or see. -Original Message- From: André Juthe [mailto:andre.ju...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Ok so the FDA's recommendations of vitamin D3 are very wrong? This is a bold claim. Do you have a some references for this? /AJ 2012/12/6 sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com: André Juthe wrote: Everything including water is bad if it is is taken in too high does, are you claiming that even eating according to the recommendations of FDA is unhealthy? If you mean eating according to the USDA food guidelines, I certainly do think it is un healthy. LOL sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMA did you try this on the wart?
Hi MA, Did you try Brooks suggestion on the wart? PT From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 8:42:20 AM Subject: Re: CSAtten: Brooks Thank you very much. I'm going to print this out and implement it!! Mary Ann From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, October 28, 2012 2:56:01 PM Subject: Re: CSAtten: Brooks The answer to your question is yes. Nearly all fungus-containing mediums respond quite favorably to common bicarbonate of soda One simple protocol we found useful...and effective for topical address of a majority of the fungal insults ...was a solution containing any of a range of DMSO strengths from 25% to 50% (by volume), mixed with 25% (by volume) supersaturated sodium bicarbonate (e.g. where limit of solution dissolved is reached Identifiable by the fact that undissolved sodium fraction will start to collect in the bottom of your mixing container). Adding 25% (by volume) 10 ppm colloidal silver is a useful option. This is a very forgiving compound and may be used on experimental subjects with confidence (at least we have found it so) to be free of contravening effects. Just apply, generously, to the affected areas every 2 to 4 hours for one 24 hour period and once every 6 hours for the following 48 hour period yielded excellent results for a majority of ALL skin surface insults we tested in our research. I hope these comments are of value to your experimental investigations. I must go now. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. Additionally, we found a majority of all skin carcinomas (as well as those presenting in the mouth and upper throat) responded VERY POSITIVELY to repeated spraying ( once every two hours during the day using a 10% (by volume) DMSO X saturated bicarbonate of soda solution (by volume) .continued on a 2 hour interval basis--until favorably resolved, or a maximum of 14 days total. On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dear Brooks -- your p.s. response below made me wonder -- do you know if DMSO or anything else can be used for toenail fungus? Thanks. MA From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, October 27, 2012 1:03:48 PM Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye p.s. It might be of value for list members to consider the useful application of DMSO---at strengths up to 99% concentration-as a direct address for ingrown toe nails and heavily-calloused areas of the foot (the tissue-softening effects are...many times superlativeand immediate, (especially when combined with a CS component for pathogen control.. .. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net wrote: I hope someone has a good suggestion for a stye in the eye. I put cs in it a few times and don't see anything happening. I am not sure of the strength of the cs because the generator didn't seem to stay on very long. Anything else that works? Thanks, Paula -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMA did you try this on the wart?
Hi PT. No -- I intended to try that on a fungal toenail. Have not done so yet. I am currently trying your Castor Oil treatment on the wart. :-) MA From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 6, 2012 6:39:50 PM Subject: CSMA did you try this on the wart? Hi MA, Did you try Brooks suggestion on the wart? PT From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 8:42:20 AM Subject: Re: CSAtten: Brooks Thank you very much. I'm going to print this out and implement it!! Mary Ann From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, October 28, 2012 2:56:01 PM Subject: Re: CSAtten: Brooks The answer to your question is yes. Nearly all fungus-containing mediums respond quite favorably to common bicarbonate of soda One simple protocol we found useful...and effective for topical address of a majority of the fungal insults ...was a solution containing any of a range of DMSO strengths from 25% to 50% (by volume), mixed with 25% (by volume) supersaturated sodium bicarbonate (e.g. where limit of solution dissolved is reached Identifiable by the fact that undissolved sodium fraction will start to collect in the bottom of your mixing container). Adding 25% (by volume) 10 ppm colloidal silver is a useful option. This is a very forgiving compound and may be used on experimental subjects with confidence (at least we have found it so) to be free of contravening effects. Just apply, generously, to the affected areas every 2 to 4 hours for one 24 hour period and once every 6 hours for the following 48 hour period yielded excellent results for a majority of ALL skin surface insults we tested in our research. I hope these comments are of value to your experimental investigations. I must go now. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. Additionally, we found a majority of all skin carcinomas (as well as those presenting in the mouth and upper throat) responded VERY POSITIVELY to repeated spraying ( once every two hours during the day using a 10% (by volume) DMSO X saturated bicarbonate of soda solution (by volume) .continued on a 2 hour interval basis--until favorably resolved, or a maximum of 14 days total. On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dear Brooks -- your p.s. response below made me wonder -- do you know if DMSO or anything else can be used for toenail fungus? Thanks. MA From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, October 27, 2012 1:03:48 PM Subject: Re: CSstye in the eye p.s. It might be of value for list members to consider the useful application of DMSO---at strengths up to 99% concentration-as a direct address for ingrown toe nails and heavily-calloused areas of the foot (the tissue-softening effects are...many times superlativeand immediate, (especially when combined with a CS component for pathogen control.. .. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net wrote: I hope someone has a good suggestion for a stye in the eye. I put cs in it a few times and don't see anything happening. I am not sure of the strength of the cs because the generator didn't seem to stay on very long. Anything else that works? Thanks, Paula -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
How did this get started? Maybe because I said that liposomes can transiently decrease macrophage activity and then someone said vit D is a rat poison as a rebuttal, trying I think to say that even well known healthy things can be toxic depending on the dose.. Its not only the quantity but how well your body balances things with other hormones and vitamins. Excess calcium circulating in the system can be toxic. Vit D can cause this. Probably everybody knows Dr Mercola is big on Vit D Its off topic but here is a little Mercola extract; sun exposure or the use of a safe tanning bed are the best options to optimize your vitamin D levels. You cannot overdose when getting your vitamin D from sun exposure, as your body has the ability to self-regulate and only make what it needs. If these options are not available, a supplement can be used, but keep the following in mind: * According to the most recent findings by Carole Baggerly, founder of GrassrootsHealth http://www.grassrootshealth.net/, her research of nearly 10,000 people shows the ideal adult dose appears to be *8,000 IU's a day* to get most into the healthy range. * When you do supplement with vitamin D, you'll only want to supplement with natural vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol). * As an aside, there is evidence that the safety of vitamin D is dependent on vitamin K, and that vitamin D toxicity (although very rare with the D3 form) is actually aggravated by vitamin K2 deficiency. So if you take oral vitamin D, ideally you should take vitamin K2 as well http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/27/the-stealth-vitamin-that-can-improve-your-insulin-sensitivity.aspx or use organic fermented foods that are high in vitamin K2, as you need about 150 mcg per day. * The normal 25-hydroxyvitamin D lab range is between 20-56 ng/ml. But, this conventional range *is really a sign of deficiency*, and is too broad to be ideal. In fact, your vitamin D level should /not/ be below 32 ng/ml, and any levels below 20 ng/ml are considered serious deficiency states, increasing your risk of cancer and autoimmune diseases like multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid arthritis, just to name a few. Remember that if you were in the sun nearly every day with large amounts of your skin exposed and not taking any oral vitamin D, your level would be around 100 ng/ml. On 12/6/2012 5:17 PM, Bob Banever wrote: If Vit.D3 is toxic then you'd better stay out of the sun. Your body produces about 10,000 IU's in an hour of sunshine. I've been taking 8000IU's daily for a couple of years with no ill effects that I can feel or see. -Original Message- From: André Juthe [mailto:andre.ju...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Ok so the FDA's recommendations of vitamin D3 are very wrong? This is a bold claim. Do you have a some references for this? /AJ 2012/12/6 sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com: André Juthe wrote: Everything including water is bad if it is is taken in too high does, are you claiming that even eating according to the recommendations of FDA is unhealthy? If you mean eating according to the USDA food guidelines, I certainly do think it is un healthy. LOL sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Fw: CSSuggestions for Baby?VALERIE
Valerie, Begging you to please not vaccinate. I lost my step grandson (3months old) 3 days after a vaccine. When you read ingredients mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, dried sheeps blood, animal pus, MSG and other disgusting cross species ingredients, think how this will destroy the immune system. My almost stepson visited the coroner and was told to get out of her face. Parent support group for SIDS parents (10 sets of parents) . Every one of those babies had a vaccine no more than 5 days before they died. Not one baby reached any statistics. yOU CANNOT BE FORCED TO VACCiNATE. Nothing in the constitution that says government can put a foeign substance in your body. Follow the money train. Big pharma is beyond anything immaginable. Much written by doctors who have delved into the question written in vaclib.org-forms available to opt out if you want to present this to school. Good reading but google anti vaccine sites. PS studied this many years as i have MS from a vaccine in 1972-3 maybe. I have stayed away from big pharma as i know better now. I will do anti-biotics if absolutely necessary. Get a broken bone fixed or just absolutes. --You lost your babies twin and suspect vaccine? Google other mothers who have lost their babies from a vaccine. Know someone with an auto immune disease? ask if onset was right after a vaccine. That's cancers, Lupus, MS, arthritus, flu, encephalitus and many others. You could lose your other child. Tell them to put that needle where the sun don't shine. Not one vaccine. Read, discuss and don't believe in the money hungry big pharma.
CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Sandy, You can try putting a half dropper full of CS into each nostril lying flat on your back with your head over the edge of a bed. Look from side to side to get the CS into the sinus cavity. Do this for three minutes a couple times a day. After gargle with hydrogen peroxide to kill any bacteria in the throat. Good luck. _ From: JERRY PRENDERGAST [mailto:jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 6:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
Re: CSSuggestions for Baby?VALERIE
I second that I was the only RN who refused to give vaccines and never lost her job // Jane - Original Message - From: vicki hood To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 1:54 PM Subject: Fw: CSSuggestions for Baby?VALERIE Valerie, Begging you to please not vaccinate. I lost my step grandson (3months old) 3 days after a vaccine. When you read ingredients mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, dried sheeps blood, animal pus, MSG and other disgusting cross species ingredients, think how this will destroy the immune system. My almost stepson visited the coroner and was told to get out of her face. Parent support group for SIDS parents (10 sets of parents) . Every one of those babies had a vaccine no more than 5 days before they died. Not one baby reached any statistics. yOU CANNOT BE FORCED TO VACCiNATE. Nothing in the constitution that says government can put a foeign substance in your body. Follow the money train. Big pharma is beyond anything immaginable. Much written by doctors who have delved into the question written in vaclib.org-forms available to opt out if you want to present this to school. Good reading but google anti vaccine sites. PS studied this many years as i have MS from a vaccine in 1972-3 maybe. I have stayed away from big pharma as i know better now. I will do anti-biotics if absolutely necessary. Get a broken bone fixed or just absolutes. --You lost your babies twin and suspect vaccine? Google other mothers who have lost their babies from a vaccine. Know someone with an auto immune disease? ask if onset was right after a vaccine. That's cancers, Lupus, MS, arthritus, flu, encephalitus and many others. You could lose your other child. Tell them to put that needle where the sun don't shine. Not one vaccine. Read, discuss and don't believe in the money hungry big pharma. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2634/5441 - Release Date: 12/06/12
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Hi Sandy, Have you tried discontinuing your toothpaste. My mouth improved when I stopped putting toothpaste in it. PT From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 6, 2012 9:59:25 PM Subject: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
I don't actually know why you're taking EIS/CS but if you think it may be beneficial I'd be upping that dose to 8 ounces, maybe even 16 ounces a day for a few days if you think it necessary, then back off to that 2 ounces and see what transpires. Each 8 ounce glass made fresh each time and swallowing half the glass straight down and swirling the remaining few mouthfuls around the mouth and under the tongue for a couple of minutes before swallowing that. You may find yourself paying a visit to the loo more frequently for a while to get rid of water g. Bearing in mind EIS/CS may not be what you need for whatever it is that ails you? I haven't a clue? N. Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:59:10 -0800 From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
Re: CSHas anyone investigated this substance?
Really? how do you overcome the quantum signature of the silver ion? From: Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 12:09 AM Subject: CSHas anyone investigated this substance? I like the geometry, no matter what. Multiple Modes of Action Testing has uncovered multiple modes of action by which the ABL Metallic Nano-silver Particle functions. First, it has an ability to steal multiple electrons (compared to ionic silvers which can only steal one). Second, each particle is permanently embedded with a resonant frequency, which allows the particles to have a positive effect on things, without needing direct contact with them. Lastly, the particles also utilize a very useful electrostatic charge.
RE: CSHas anyone investigated this substance?
Perhaps it ties up with atoms gaining electrons in the production process and particle formation creates a negative electrostatic charge? Just an amateurs two bobs worth g. N. Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:38:52 -0800 From: kscma...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSHas anyone investigated this substance? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Really? how do you overcome the quantum signature of the silver ion? From: Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 12:09 AM Subject: CSHas anyone investigated this substance? I like the geometry, no matter what. Multiple Modes of Action Testing has uncovered multiple modes of action by which the ABL Metallic Nano-silver Particle functions. First, it has an ability to steal multiple electrons (compared to ionic silvers which can only steal one). Second, each particle is permanently embedded with a resonant frequency, which allows the particles to have a positive effect on things, without needing direct contact with them. Lastly, the particles also utilize a very useful electrostatic charge.
