Re: CS>OT, Next Century

[Charles King]

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:27:09 -0600, Tai-Pan  wrote:

>Lets blame it
> all on "Dennis the Short 

I knew Dennis had something to do with it! He was even taking bets!

Chuck
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Re: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)

[Charles King]

Excuse me?
Your reply doesn't seem to go with the post you're replying to.
Or, at least, further clarification seem neccessary.
Chuck
Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things  
---Dan Quayle
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:54:44 -0600, "Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
North America"  wrote:

>i speculate the real problem was with "butyl nitrate"  instead of amytal
>nitrate.   The amytal nitrate was a prescription item, and alot of nite
>clubs sold butyl nitrate (also known as locker room in the industrial
>cleaning chemical industry) which was not a controlled substance.
>
>jd
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Charles King 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Date: Thursday, December 16, 1999 3:48 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)
>
>
>>On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:16:18 -0800, Henry Reed  wrote:
>>
>>>Sure that's a tincture-- made with alcohol?
>>Extract-no alcohol. Just looked at the bottle.
>>>  What proportions are you using?
>>Roughly 1 1/2 oz distilled water, 1/2 measure of MSM (5 grams I think),
>>eyedropperful of eyebright (28-30 drops), 1/2 oz colloidal silver.
>>Fill eyewash cup and use in eyes. Drink what's left over.
>>This is guy measuring, seat-of-my-pants concocting.
>> Absolutely not responsible for what YOU do.
>>>  And the alcohol is ok in the eye?
>>Dunno, why not? Here's mud in your eye
>> Chuck
>>
>>I support everyone's right to be an idiot. I may need it myself someday.
>>


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Re: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)

[Charles King]

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:16:18 -0800, Henry Reed  wrote:

>Sure that's a tincture-- made with alcohol?
Extract-no alcohol. Just looked at the bottle.
>  What proportions are you using?
Roughly 1 1/2 oz distilled water, 1/2 measure of MSM (5 grams I think),
eyedropperful of eyebright (28-30 drops), 1/2 oz colloidal silver.
Fill eyewash cup and use in eyes. Drink what's left over.
This is guy measuring, seat-of-my-pants concocting.
 Absolutely not responsible for what YOU do.
>  And the alcohol is ok in the eye?
Dunno, why not? Here's mud in your eye
Chuck

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Re: CS-Guenea pig??

[Charles King]

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:38:19 -0800 (PST), Nicole Fraser
 wrote:

>I was just wondering if it would be safe to give some CS to a guenea pig?

You gotta be kidding, right?
That's what they're for
Chuck

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Re: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)

[Charles King]

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:39:51 +0100, MT  wrote:

>i bought MSM as crystals and they don't seem to dissolve in water
>am I doing something wrong?
>or is it the wrong type?

Somethings not right.
They dissolve fine in water. At least up until it's a saturated solution. See
if using warm water helps.
Chuck
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Re: CS>stomach flu

[Charles King]

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:40:29 -0800, Mary  wrote:

>Does CS help with stomach flu, I have had some killer stomach flu the past
>several days that is really going around here. 

Couldn't hoit!
I'd also try drugstore 3% (that's THREE percent) hydrogen peroxide in the ears.
And maybe lots of ascorbic acid orally.
Also, go to bed and stay there except for bathroom breaks and meals.
 I mean it, STAY THERE!!! Book, doze, sleep, whatever.
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Re: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)

[Charles King]

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:04:33 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

>what's briam macinturfs website?
>does he have a list?
>
>Dennis

Dennis,
Go to http://turf.home.mindspring.com/
Chuck

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Re: CS>Need Help with Eye (retina)

[Charles King]

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:25:28 -0800, "2001 TV  VCR"  wrote:

>Has anyone used CS or heard of 
>anything else to cure Macular 
>Degeneration and also restore the 
>damaged retina?

I have no idea if this would help or not (your decision).
I've been using MSM drops in my eyes to increase garbage removal. Floaters have
decreased significantly. My opthamologist was happy at my last examination.
Now I've started using a concoction of distilled water, MSM, eyebright
tincture, and CS, all mixed together as a eyewash.
Seems to be improving (only been 4 days).
Chuck
Is the glass half empty, half full,
 or twice as large as it needs to be?


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Re: CS>Re: Nellie/Milk magnesium

[Charles King]

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:45:37 EST, mardic...@aol.com wrote:

>This prompts me to remember a cassette tape a neighbor of ours let us borrow. 
> It was called Dead Doctors Don't Lie. 
>It was all about the magnesium deficiency of most people.  There was more 
>info, too.  He also promotes sodium intake, but for ME, I know that does not 
>work.  
>The tape has a lot of information and I'm straining to recall the man's name 
>who made it.  Argh!! Joel???

Ha!
Joel Wallach!
Got a copy right here, didn't even have to get up.
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Re: CS>Blackstrap Molasses

[Charles King]

Vilik,
BSM is an ole timey health food. Iron from that kind of source is nothing to
worry about (in my opinion). If you must worry, I'd be more concerned about the
carb level, and even then, not much.
Check out Adell Davis's books. Very smart lady considering how far back she
goes. I don't think she's ever been shown to be wrong.
Chuck

If it were easy to understand, we wouldn't call it code 

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:31:48 -0800, Vilik Rapheles  wrote:

> Now I've gotten ANOTHER bottle (organic), and I've been
>taking
>it faithfully twice a day. It's very high in potassium and high also in 
>magnesium...which is good. But it's also high in iron.And now there's
>more written about the dangers of iron. In fact Ray Peat on his site
>refers to iron as a toxic metal. 
>
>Does anyone have experience using blackstrap molasses? If you do, please
>tell what's happened to ya!


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Re: CS>update - my asthma

[Charles King]

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:04:42 EST, deat...@aol.com wrote:

>Gang:
>just by chance I ran into Brian McInturf at a local health food store this 
>weekend;
Way Cool, he's a smart guy!!
> told him about my plight (which is better BTW - I took 40,000 mg of 
>Vit C Sat/30,000 on Sun - 
Ha! You must taste like a lemon!
>it is helping - still not to the diarrhea stage 
>though - not even close)  and Brian said that resistant lung infections can 
>be round worms - again back to zapping & hulda clark methods 
Did you do the Brooks Nebulizer also?
Chuck
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Re: CS>Intro and questions

[Charles King]

On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:13:55 EST, ascottx...@aol.com wrote:

>A lot of the LEDs on the market now have built in current limit, flashers, 
>etc. It seems to make more sense to me to use a current limiting resistor in 
>series rather than a light bulb or an LED though. Any thoughts on this?
>
>Andy

A 40 ma lamp will give you a indication of battery strength and a complete
circuit. 
Although Marsha has taught us different.
N you're right!
Chuck
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Re: CS>Beck Electrifier - Correct Links

[Charles King]

On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:06:00 -0800, "2001 TV  VCR"  wrote:

>Chuck
>
>I'm sorry, I was just trying to help.  By the
>way, I took a look at that mini Zapper.  Do
>you know if those work very well?
>
>Bil
No apology necessary, I knew that!

My only experience with zappers is building one from the diagram on SOTAs'
site. Easy enough to do, especially with vector type protoboards. I don't have
any particular health problems, so I can't say if they help or not.
I think Marshall has had good experience.

I also built a "Thumpy" out of a RS partystrobe and a tape deguasser, adding in
a 250 uf electrolytic. That sucker got rid of a bursitic type pain in my elbow
that was hanging on for more than a year. I was impressed because I call all
this stuff my "Mad Science".
Go here:
http://keelynet.com/biology/thumind.htm

I'm posting this to the list, as I think it's of general interest.

Chuck
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Raise 2 feet above head and release.


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Re: CS>Beck Electrifier - Correct Links

[Charles King]

Carol was asking about a wearable device that I had inadvertently called a Beck
device and was indeed a Clark design. The reference is correct at:
http://www.wave.net/upg/zapper/
Chuck

I don't want constructive criticism.
 It's all I can do to put up with constructive praise 

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 23:46:52 -0800, "2001 TV  VCR"  wrote:

>Those links are for Zappers, not the Beck
>device.  Here are the correct links:
>
>http://www.sota-inc.com/index.html
>
>http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/bbstuff.html
>
>http://www.action-electronics.com/ps.htm
>
>Bil
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Charles King 
>To: 
>Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 5:31 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>SHOCK HAZZARD: One Last Thought
>
>
>> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:55:03 -0500, "Carol M. Ryan" 
>wrote:
>>
>> >Chuck,
>> > Do you know where I can buy the portable Beck
>> >device?
>> >Thanks,
>> >Carol
>>
>> Go here first:
>> http://www.wave.net/upg/zapper/


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Re: CS>SHOCK HAZZARD: One Last Thought

[Charles King]

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:55:03 -0500, "Carol M. Ryan"  wrote:

>Chuck,
> Do you know where I can buy the portable Beck
>device?
>Thanks,
>Carol

Go here first:
http://www.wave.net/upg/zapper/

Then knock yourself out here:
http://showcase.cnd.com/althealth/index.htm

Chuck
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Re: CS>Intro and questions

[Charles King]

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:41:02 -0500, bi...@qed.net (G&B Rogers) wrote:

>My second version used a red 5v LED with integrated resistor, but when I
>tested it, within seconds the water became cloudy.

Your water's not pure enough. Get distilled from the grocers.
It should take from 30 to 45 minutes with your setup using distilled water. If
there's anything in it (salt etc.), it only takes 3 to 5 minutes.
Chuck
Ever notice that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
universe are pointed away from earth?


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Re: CS>alternatives/Grapefruit seed???

[Charles King]

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:33:13 +, Douglas Haack  wrote:

> I use it as an alternative to the Roche vitamin C. Roche being the
>world's leading manufacturer. I don't take store bought Vitimin C as I have
>heard from a reliable source (a renowned alternative Healther) that the body
>really becomes a little addicted to this "non natural source".

Well, lets see.
I've been using Ascorbic Acid crystals (vitamin C) for over 25 years. Guess I'm
addicted! But then again, something you need for the rest of your life would be
addicting, wouldn't it? I'm addicted to food also. Nah, could quit anytime!
Chuck
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Re: CS>RE:Particle size -LV and HV

[Charles King]

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:12:23 -0600, "Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
North America"  wrote:

> does anyone have any advice to offer about purchasing a C.E.S. unit?
>(cranial electrical stimulation)
>
>anyone have a used one for sale?
>
>jd

Go to  http://www.onelist.com
Join mind-l
Ask your question there.
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Re: CS>colloidal copper?

[Charles King]

On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 10:39:05 -0800, Dale Gillilan
 wrote:

>Anyway, I would appreciate a clarification of why copper tubing is not
>acceptable for a water distiller, but colloidal copper is good for us.

Dale,
Always be careful and do research on any metallic mineral supplement you're
thinking of using. They all have a limit at which they become toxic. With
copper, I believe that the recommended daily dose is 3 mg. Copper is necessary
in the body, but not very much.

Chuck
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Re: CS>SHOCK HAZZARD: One Last Thought

[Charles King]

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 00:50:29 -0800, "2001 TV  VCR"  wrote:

>Sota Instruments had published a testimonial of
>someone that claimed to have been cured of
>lyme after a run-in with an electric fence.

There are reports of individuals taking lightning strikes and seeing God also.
However, I suspect this is a highly individualized result!

I know of someone making a Beck device that is portable and designed to be worn
all day if you wish. The contacts are actually a couple of copper cents
attached to the case. I guess you wear it under your belt.
 I think I would tend to go this way.
Chuck
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Re: CS>For the HV experts - SHOCK HAZZARD

[Charles King]

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 01:32:43 EST, ascottx...@aol.com wrote:

>I've touched the anode on a "discharged" TV tube. It didn't clear any viruses 
>but it knocked me on my butt... Watch out for those stray capacitance's.
>
>Andy

Made you brighter
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Re: CS>For the HV experts - SHOCK HAZZARD

[Charles King]

Talk about setting yourself up for a lawsuit.
BTW, read your first paragraph again.
Some people are ill because they choose that experience for this lifetime!

Chuck
"Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid"
John Wayne

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:46:46 -0800, "2001 TV  VCR"  wrote:

>Hi
>
>Trying to help a friend with MS.  He is 
>unable to walk without a walker. He can't 
>ever seem to get around to using the 
>Beck blood electrifier or the "Rife" type
>frequency generator which I built for him.
>
>I have heard that some people have been
>cured of lyme and other conditions by 
>acidentally contacting an electric fence.
>Quick high voltage shock and no more 
>viruses!
>
>He is willing to do something like this and
>I am planning on hooking him up to a 
>television flyback (hi voltage) transformer.
>The voltage is 25,000 DC at about 2 mA.
>
>Since there is not enough current available
>to cause tissue damage it seems like 
>this would be safe.  Has anyone heard of
>someone be seriously hurt with very low
>current HV DC.
>
>Bil


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Re: CS>Particle size

[Charles King]

Capable of success or continuing effectiveness; practicable: a viable plan; a
viable national economy. See Synonyms at possible.

[French, from vie, life, from Old French, from Latin vìta.]



On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:50:35 -0500, "Robert Ratliff" 
wrote:

>What is viability?
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:rasputi...@earthlink.net]
>  Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 7:30 PM
>  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>  Subject: Re: CS>Particle size
>
>
>  Why not check the viability of your CS with a little inexpensive laser
>pointer.  Shine it at your solution horizontally in a clear glass jar in a
>darkened room.  If you see a sparkling red line, that's a reflection off the
>silver particles called the Tyndall effect.


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Re: CS>Oz

[Charles King]

Here's an old post withe the water oz number
Chuck

Cats are smarter than dogs.
 You can't teach eight cats to pull a sled.   

On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 16:30:31 EDT, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote:

>In a message dated 7/3/99 10:01:16 PM Central Daylight Time, vi...@peak.org 
>writes:
>
>< Anybody else out there able to supply it?
> 
> ~^^V^^~ >>
>Janis sent this to me.  The WaterOz # is 1-800-547-2294.
>
>edith


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Re: CS>what does this mean?

[Charles King]

Dennis,
Found this in a newsgroup. You may be able to use it:

Dear Kali, I've talked with several people who use DMSO for tinnitus.  They
put it on a
q-tip and touch it to the back of the ear before the bone.  A chiropractor I
know tells a story about a football team who used it with tylenol(?) (I
can't remember now) and many contracted Lou Gehrig's disease.  That's hard
to believe and somewhere it seems I heard that was not the case.  Do you
have any info?  C. Bond


Yeah, it's an old, old (1975) from the Annals of the New York Academy of
Sciences 75:243:468:74.  Hasn't been replicated. From what I can tell it was
very subjective and not double-blind, but at least it is not totally off the
wall - might be something there..


"In fifteen patients affected by essential nonvibratory tinnitus, local
applications in the external auditive canal of 2 ml medicated DMSO spray
were made. The spray solution contained DMSO integrated with
anti-inflammatory and vasodilatory substances. This application was repeated
every four days for a month. At the same time each patient was administered
a daily intramuscular injection of a preparation that contained DMSO and a
vasodilatory component. The therapeutic effect was evaluated through the
subjective modification of the symptom and functional tests of the auditory
system. Of the fifteen patients treated, the tinnitus symptom completely
disappeared in nine, and did not return during a one-year observation
period. The patient's symptoms diminished in two cases, and in four cases
the permanent tinnitus became occasional, triggered principally by
environmental cold. It is important to note that among the concomitant
signs, the five patients with vertigo noted improvement. Hypacusis
diminished in three of the six patients affected. Insomnia disappeared in
eight and diminished in seven cases. The rise in the average tympanic
membrane temperature from 36.8 degrees C before to 37.9 degrees C after
treatment was noteworthy. This could indicate an improvement of the blood
flow in the inner ear."



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Re: CS and Arteries/James

[Charles King]

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 13:17:24 -0700, "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
wrote:

>According to Dr. (phD, not MD ) Mary Enig,  pig fat is much healthier than 
>hydrogenated veggie oils.  See if you can find her site.  Mind boggling. 
> Another example of how bad we've been had.
>
>
>James Osbourne Holmes

Here it is (God, I'm good):
http://www.enig.com/trans.html
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Re: CS>is this working?

[Charles King]

On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 13:17:44 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" 
wrote:

>Is this working - all my mail to the list is getting returned.
>Katarina

No it's not!
Get rid of the Mac!!!
Chuck
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you have to be smart enough to understand the game
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Re: CS>alittle gray

[Charles King]

On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:00:05 -0500, "Corvus Corax"  wrote:

>Please find out what this is, if this is not caused by silver, then it could
>be some medical condition that could make you very ill.  It is not normal
>for your skin to change and while if it is silver it is only cosmetic, if it
>is something else, please don't let it get to far.

Are you eating something in large quantity?
For example, carrots to excess will turn your skin orange due to beta carotine.
Some bodybuilders used to use a red carotine supplement to simulate tanning.
It goes away when discontinued.
Chuck
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Re: CS>olive schmolive

[Charles King]

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 16:46:53 -0800, Vilik Rapheles  wrote:

>Sorry to say cs didn't do it for either my rat Cookie or me...in terms
>of getting over our conditions
>

>
So, we downgrade from supertonic to extremely useful.
Or, we need more info on dosage and method of application/delivery.
Gotta know this stuff.

>Mea culpa...can I still be on the list?
>
>~^^V^^~
Dunno, but I suspect we still need you...
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Re: CS>Re: 170VDC & HVAC doggy do-do

[Charles King]

On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:22:52 -0500, "Jeffrey A. Madore" 
wrote:

>I use a 100 ohm resistor in series with the line cord to limit the inrush
>current to the capacitor. Without this resistor, the inrush from a 20A circuit
>blew my bridge to smoking bits and melted one prong on the line cord, such
>that I had to file it to use it again. Course my capacitor is a big computer
>cap... an overkill to say the least. Judging from past experience, and how it
>momentarily pulled the voltage of the whole house down, I'd say I drew a
>good surge of 300 to 500 amps!!! 

Yeah, but look at it this way..
All charged up and Y2K compliant!!!

> (I was close to the service panal and that
>ckt is wired with 10 AWG!) The 100 ohm resistor did the trick...no more
>smoke and flames, and no more "Honey!, are you all right down here?...
>Honey??...HONEY???

My wife tells everyone that, on my projects, no matter what the design is for,
it always ends up a light dimmer!

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Re: CS>rapeseed

[Charles King]

On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:07:22 -0800, t...@home.com wrote:

>they used rapeseed in the making of paint, would you put this in your
>body?
>
>Ted

Never heard of interior decorating?
Chuck

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Re: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!

[Charles King]

On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:07:42 -0600, "Carol Kehoe"  wrote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> You sent a file called ivy.gif, but AOL stinks in some ways, and this is
>one
>> of them.  I don't have the file.  Could you send to me?
>>

C'mon folks, a little netiquette and common sense.
No need for 456 line posts just to add a line or two.
Highlight a few pertinent lines to reference what you're commenting on and your
newsreader will add it to your post. If you don't, the whole thing gets
referenced and it really gets out of hand.
Sorry Mike.
Not tonight dear, I've got a modem!
Chuck
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Re: CS>Glycemic Index

[Charles King]

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:33:27 -0800, Vilik Rapheles  wrote:

>Oh Chuck...memory can be deceiving, can't it...
>
>It's medium to high...less than most desserts...less than straight glucose...
>
>but not, I'm sorry to say, "very low'

Mid range, then!
Same as corn, oatmeal, less than beets, carrots.
Certainly less than "sinful, awful" by far!
Chuck

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Re: CS>Glycemic Index

[Charles King]

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:38:38 -0800, Vilik Rapheles  wrote:

>There was a wealth of info in the websites under glycemic index. Want to
>discuss some of this? 

The best part of the glycemic index that I remember, is that Ice Cream is very
lowyum.
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CS>Re: graaphics viewer

[Charles King]

Ron your e-mail address didn't work

>On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:38:21 +, Ron Cuthbertson 
>wrote:
>
>>Where can I get ACDSee please?
>>
>>Ron
Try this:
http://tucows.ionet.net/adnload/dlacdsee.html
Chuck

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Re: CS>Re: Happy Thanksgiving

[Charles King]

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 01:27:58 +, "Dr.Lew Fong How"  wrote:

>Happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends.
>
>With regards
>Lew
>[Malaysia]

Thank you, Dr Lew!
Been wondering about you, haven't heard from you in awhile!

Chuck
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Re: CS>Re: Chuck/meters/jpg

[Charles King]

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 05:36:32 EST, wong...@aol.com wrote:

>Maybe this is the same problem, maybe not, but when I copy an e mail or web 
>page with graphics to Microsoft Word I only get text. No pictures. Any 
>buttons to press in Win 95?
>
>wong

Wong,
I don't completely understand the question. Are you trying to get graphics into
Word, or are you just trying to see the graphic?
If in Win98, you go to Start/Settings/Folder options, under the file types tab
you can associate any file type to be activated by any program that's
registered. Thus, my graphic types (jpg,pcx, etc) are associated with ACDSee.
Whenever I choose to run a graphic, it automagically opens and displays in
ACDSee.
Probably better to go offlist with this.
Chuck

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Re: CS>Re: "Death"

[Charles King]

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:53:43 +, "M. G. Devour"  wrote:

>> Please avoid religious discussions and outright evangelization. 

Amen!
Chuck
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Re: CS>what does this mean?

[Charles King]

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:33:21 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

>what does corvus corax mean?
>in one of the RPG's corax is a were-raven.
>
>Dennis

Cor·vus (kôr¹ves) noun
A constellation in the Southern Hemisphere near Crater and Virgo. Also called
Crow2.

[Latin corvus, raven.]


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Re: CS>what does this mean?

[Charles King]

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:30:02 -0500, "Corvus Corax"  wrote:

>I realise you all feel that collodial silver is safer than silver compounds,
>and I will accept that it is no more dangerous than silver compounds.
>What I am trying to figure out is how much CS can I drink every single day,
>just for fun, and expect no harm presuming this studies data is accurate.

To paraphrase an old joke:
Can I take until I develop a tan?

> Still, I'm
>kinda looking forward to my next minor illness.

See, it obviously affects brain function!
We actually hear this a lot!
>
>
>I used to be smart, really. Then I began to understand the way the world
>works.  Now I'm just afraid.
I knowwachamean!

Chuck

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Re: CS>Re: Chuck/meters/jpg

[Charles King]

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 10:40:32 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" 
wrote:

>Thanks Chuck.
>Care to help me figure out why I can't get jpg? I don't even know what it is
>-- but maybe I am missing some application that I need?
>Katarina

Well, if your doing Mac, I have to presume you're not running Windows?
Therefore you can't use window apps.
ACDSee 32 is one of the best utilities for viewing any graphic you're likely to
come across but it's a windows thing.
Tell you what, go here
http://www.snip.net/home/graphics.htm
and download & install Jade under the Macintosh section.
Chuck
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Re: CS>free TDS meter

[Charles King]

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:21:01 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

> the rep said
>distillation somehow changes the structure of the water. uhhh?  does it?
>
>Dennis

Well,
We're starting to hear that magnets will structure water! I must say, this has
been news to me, and I'm reserving judgment 'till all the ducks are home.

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Re: CS>hot flashes

[Charles King]

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:39:16 -0600, "Liz Pavek"  wrote:

>I quit drinking coffee, and my hot flashes went away.
Prob'ly spilling it in your lap!
If you sue, you could be rich
Chuck
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Re: CS>Re: Chuck/meter

[Charles King]

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:39:43 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" 
wrote:

>Also, you'll see the questions I asked Mike about difference between
>voltage-ohm meter and PWT and if I need both. Would love your opinion too.
>Thanks,
>Katarina

Macintosh, the original graphics machine, doesn't do jpg?
Un---believable!

You're right, the PWT is probably what you need. My meter suggestion is best
for the simpler setups.
Chuck

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Re: CS>Re: Chuck/meters

[Charles King]

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:39:55 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" 
wrote:

>
>Next -- more questions. Assume my total ignorance - so - does a multimeter
>come with three clipleads?
No, you buy a bag for a buck (or thereabouts)

> Is a cliplead one of those little alligator clip
>things and I can just clip it onto the Beck electrode at the top?
Yep

>So, essentially what I am doing is getting a new piece of silver wire for an
>electrode -- does it matter what thickness or length? (oh Marsha, if you are
>lurking I may need you) Then I am attatching that electrode and one of the
>Beck electrodes (does it matter which one?) to the leads coming from the two
>terminals of the meter. I am then connecting the remaining Beck electrode to
>the one coming from the meter with another piece of wire with two clip leads
>on it -- I assume I do this at the top of the electrodes. Then when I turn
>the Beck generator on the meter should be able to read the milliamps.
>
>I think I understand -- does it sound right? Will the third electrode affect
>my silver generating process? Do I take it out and wipe it too?
No third electrode, only two electrodes in the water.

This is getting tough, here's a picture..
Chuck

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Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)

[Charles King]

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:29:44 -0800, "2001 TV  VCR"  wrote:

>Silver Pulser spec's and general usage info:
>
>Battery Voltage: 9 Volts DC (Alkaline Battery)
>
>Output Voltage at Colloidal Silver Probes: 27 Volts DC,
>+/- 1 Volt
>
>Output Current: 20 milliamps maximum when silver
>wires are shorted

Oh, okay,
When I saw "pulser", I  thought this was one of those current reversing
devices.
Apparently, Becks device is straight DC when using it for CS generating.
So, my meter suggestion stands ok in my last post.
Chuck
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Re: CS>Re: Chuck/meters

[Charles King]

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:52:19 -0500, "Jeffrey A. Madore" 
wrote:

>
>I'm not familiar with what the "pulser" has for an output (frequency, etc).
>It sounds like something more than flat DC.  Do you know?  I'm just
>wondering how well it would meter.

Oh, you're right,
I didn't notice she said "pulser".
Bummer!
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Re: CS>Re: Chuck/canola

[Charles King]

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:49:03 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" 
wrote:

>Hey Chuck,
>do you remember more of what the scary report said -- other than that it was
>genetically engineered from something toxic which I guess is enough for me
>to stop using it. Unfortunately I don't eat dairy any more and the only
>decent non-hydrogenated butter substitutes I've found contain canola oil.
>Katarina

I'll try it as an attachment.
Chuck
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The following excerpt is from John Thomas' new
book: 
"Young again: How to Reverse the Aging Process 
published by Promotion
Publishing, San Diego

This excerpt has been edited especially for Perceptions
magazine March/April 1996 




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free, you must have control of your political environment, access to crucial
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The magazine is designed to bridge the differences between political ideologies
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Blindness, Mad Cow Disease and Canola Oil
By John Thomas

Millions of people have suffered the loss of their vision from glaucoma,
a disease involving atrophy (deterioration) of the optic nerve. For years,
"experts" have been telling us that glaucoma results from fluid-pressure
buildup in the eye that causes the optic nerve to deteriorate. This theory
was based on an incorrect medical model: They were wrong!

Now, the experts have admitted that this is not true and have given
birth to a new theory. According to it, glaucoma is instead caused by a
deficiency of of oxygen and blood flow. Finally they are on the right trail.
In the end, they will discover that glaucoma is the result of insufficient
blood flow due to agglutination (clumping together) of the red blood cells
and waste buildup in the cells and intercellular fluids.

These blood-corpuscle clusters cannot squeeze through the extremely
tiny capillaries in the posterior of the eye, so cannot deliver oxygen
to the mitochondria.1 This is what the problem has been all along, and
if people continue to eat soy*2* and canola oils, a lot more of them are
going to experience vision irregularities - like retinitis and macula lutea*3*
degeneration.

Death of the mitochondria in the cells in the posterior of the eye
is due to oxygen starvation, sodium toxicity and waste accumulation. When
the mitochondria die, the cells die and the posterior eye tissues atrophy.
In this respect, glaucoma has much in common with hair loss, Alzheimer's
disease, multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy and hearing problems.

There are several things a person can do to reverse these debilitating
conditions. Biologically friendly water*4* is basic to all rejuvenation,
as is fresh, viable food. Detoxification of the tissues and body fluids
is accomplished with yucca extract, Kombucha tea,5 PACs*6* and colon therapy.





Rape Seed Oil or "Canola"? 

Canola is a coined word. It appeared out of nowhere and is not listed
in any but the most recent reference sources.

The flip side of the canola coin reads: "rape"! You must
admit that canola sounds better than rape. The name canola disguised the
introduction of rape oil to America.

Canola oil comes from the rape seed, which is part of the mustard
family of plants. Rape is the most toxic of all food-oil plants. Like soy,
rape is a weed. Insects will not eat it; it is deadly poisonous! The oil
from the rape seed is a hundred times more toxic than soy oil.

Canola is a semi-drying oil that is used as lubricant, fuel, soap
and synthetic rubber base, and as an illuminant for the slick color pages
you see in magazines. It is an industrial oil and does not belong in the
body!

Canola oil has some very interesting characteristics and effects
on living systems. For example, it forms latex-like substances that agglutinate
the red blood corpuscles, as does soy, but much more pronounced. Loss of
vision is a known, characteristic side effect of rape oil which antagonizes
the central and peripheral nervous systems=20 again like soy oil, again
worse. The d

Re: CS>Re: Chuck/meters

[Charles King]

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:35:29 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" 
wrote:

>Now what do you mean when you say ">
>> If you place it on the milliamp range, in series with one of your silver
>> electrodes, you will know the current going through your water.
>I have the bob beck silver pulser and the electrodes are not detacheable --
>does in series mean I would have to put the meter between the electrode and
>the wire that leads to it? I guess I could dismantle it and figure out how
>to reattatch. Suggestions?

My comments referred to adding a milliamp meter to the simplest of setups.
That is: 3 battery, 2 clipleads, 2 silver electrodes that are bent to clip on
the edge of a glass of distilled water.

Anything else will take some simple innovation.

If your device is complete with silver electrodes attached, you'll have to
leave your device on the bench and use seperate new silver as above.
 Run one clip lead from the meter to one of the electrodes on the Beck device.
Run one cliplead from the other meter terminal to a new silver electrode on the
glass.
Run a third cliplead from the other Beck electrode to the other silver
electrode on the glass.
Set the meter to read current, or milliamps (depend on your meter).
If you draw it out, it's pretty simple.
Chuck
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Re: CS>Silver complexed with citrate and potassium ... Whaddya

[Charles King]

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:09:55 -0600, "Scharbach"  wrote:

>Yes, emu oil is the bird oil. 

AW.
Running a bunch of birds thru an oil press
Better we go back to cats!
Chuck
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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

[Charles King]

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:09:26 -0800, t...@home.com wrote:

>Rapeseed was not an appealing name changed to Canada oil then changed to
>Canola oil, used in making paint, should you put it in your body?
>
>Ted

Yeah,
I read a scary report about canola oil, and we stopped using it. Switched to
olive oils instead. Did you know you can get spray Pam with olive oil?

Chuck
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Re: CS>OT/Kris/Soy & Canola oil

[Charles King]

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:29:47 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

>who was it that said:
>"you know, seekers, everything you know is Wrong."?
>
>Dennis

I expect it would be Woody Allen!
Butter is better than margarine (transfatty acids) etc.

Chuck

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
 invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
 a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
 the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
 solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
 a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
 gallantly.
 Specialization is for insects."
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Re: CS>Meter question

[Charles King]

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:45:56 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" 
wrote:

>Bill
>suggested I get a volt-ohm  meter from radio shack that reads in the
>milli-ohms range. Someone else, I think Chuck - said one should get a
>digital multimeter from Radio shack. Are they the same thing? I would like
>to get only one more meter and be done with meter buying

A volt-ohm meter is a multimeter, so named because they usually measure
voltage(volts), resistance (ohms), and current( amps, milliamps).
Cheap ones are usually accurate enough for general experimental and household
use.
They come in two types. Analog, which reads as a pointer on a scale, or
digital, which reads out as numbers on a screen.
Digital is easier to use by far. Used to be very expensive, not anymore. Well
worth any difference in price over a analog in the same range.

If you place it on the milliamp range, in series with one of your silver
electrodes, you will know the current going through your water.

Distilled water will start with a very low current (usually about 0.25ma or
less). As your process continues, the current will gradually rise. You should
stop the process before you get above 2.5ma). This usually takes less than an
hour.
If your starting current is NOT low, your water is contaminated.
If it doesn't rise, you've pulled a Marsha. Keep it to yourself...

Chuck
Important Things My Kids taught Me

It's more fun to color outside the lines.
If you're gonna draw on the wall, do it behind the couch.
Ask why until you understand.
Save a place in line for your friends.
If you want a kitten, start out by asking for a horse.
Making your bed is a waste of time.
If your dog doesn't like somebody, you probably shouldn't, either. 
Toads aren't ugly. They're just toads.
just keep banging until someone opens  the door.
Don't pop someone else's bubble.
You shouldn't ask to start over just because you're losing the game.
Chasing the cat is more fun than catching it.


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Re: CS>Vitamin C and minerals

[Charles King]

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:34:01 +1300, "Ivan Anderson"  wrote:

> (So much for the idiotic
>health food industry mentality that promotes taking large
>doses of Vitamin C because the excess can be "harmlessly"
>eliminated in the urine.) 

There's probably more to this, 'cause I've been doing relatively high dosage
vitamin C (2-4 grams) for over 35 years. Good ol' Linus Pauling was doing at
least 10 grams. It killed him though, (at 93).
 Come to think of it, I'd still go with that Nobel prize winners'
reccomendation. He was heavily into orthomolecular science, hardly health food
industry mentality.
Chuck
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Re: CS>Using CS in your cat bath

[Charles King]

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 06:38:25 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

>will someone please explain just what an ear candle is and how to use
>it?
>
>Dennis

Got this from a website Dennis:
Chuck

A Brief History of Ear Candling
by Cheryl Ashby, C.C.T. 

Ear Candling is not a new alternative therapy. Dating back to the year 2500
B.C. there is evidence showing that people used and were familiar with the
practice of ear candling. Ancient cultures, including the Egyptians, made
reference to its use. Parchment scrolls discovered in the Orient, also have
described the procedure for ear candling.
 
This ancient therapeutic art may have been developed with the domestication of
the honeybee. Beeswax was -- and still is -- a key component to making the
hollow cylinders used in the procedure. The principal cloth used by ancient
Egyptians was linen made from flax (the fibers of an annual blue-flowered
plant).
 
Today, as in times past . . . high-quality, ear candles are handmade from
beeswax and unbleached cotton cloths. These specially fabricated candles are
typically nine (9) to twelve (12) inches long and will burn for approximately
ten minutes. 
 
Through a process called "convection". . . softer waxes and toxins will be
drawn out of the ear, oxidized and turned into vapors during the procedure.
 
This simple and time-proven therapy can be very effective in removing old and
troublesome blockages from the ear canal, without the use of solutions or
probes. Many people are rediscovering the value of Ear Candling to cleanse the
ear canal and sinus passages. 


Ear Candling is a good example of how an almost forgotten
simple and natural therapy, is now being used effectively to solve
many problems associated with the ear. 



 


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Re: CS>Using CS in your cat bath

[Charles King]

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:48:58 -0700, "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
wrote:

>No need to be worried or confused: 
> this is a smart forum where people make clever jokes and rant and rave about 
> meaningful subjects.

Rats,
She's on to me Holmes,
I'm outa here.
Chuck

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Re: CS>Using CS in your cat bath

[Charles King]

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:43:14 -0500, June Narber Harrison
 wrote:

>I'm sorry, I do not find jokes that promote cruelity to any animals, even in
>jest, to be
>amusing.
>June

You're right, June,
Although, the one in the shower, WAS funny.
I did that once, with my conure (took a shower with him).
He enjoyed it pretty good. Got the idea from a bird magazine.

Chuck
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Re: CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!

[Charles King]

Yes,
Let's start with my favorite:

"Yesterday, scientists revealed that beer contains small traces of
female hormones. To prove their theory, the scientists fed 100 men 12
pints of beer each. They observed that 100% of them gained weight,
talked excessively without making sense, became emotional, and couldn't
drive. No further testing is planned."
Chuck

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:13:43 -0700, "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
wrote:

>Rampant Sexism!
>James Osbourne Holmes
>a...@trail.com
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From:  Carol Kehoe [SMTP:ke...@jefnet.com]

>Subject:   CS>FEMALE LISTERS ONLY!!
>

>Just thought I would try to get some female feedback on women's health 
>problems.  Since this seems to be a mostly male list, maybe the girls out 
>there would like to converse privately.  I have some questions and would 
>appreciate some feedback.
>
>Carol
>ke...@jefnet.com


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Re: CS product

[Charles King]

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:20:14 -0800, Marsha Hallett  wrote:

>Dear Chuck, I was Grumpy, because for the last two weeks I was Sneezy. Then
>I took medicine and became Dopey. Now I have to go see Doc, but I`ll be
>Bashful, and after the surgery I`ll be Happy!
>:o)
>Marsha
>(What is the other one???)

Dummy?

ROTFL..
Chuck

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Re: CS>Amalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc)

[Charles King]

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:12:01 -0800, Vilik Rapheles  wrote:

>~
>If you're getting your ears filled, amalgams or not, you have have
>a very questionable dentist...
>
>~^^V^^~

Probably no choice! 
He won't open his mouth at the dentist'.
Chuck
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Re: CS product

[Charles King]

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:05:38 -0800, Marsha Hallett  wrote:

>Dear Chuck, I`m feeling so much better now. I`ve had 5 doses of real CS now,
>and the fever is gone, all that is left is a bit of a cough. Not the
>bronchitis I had several days ago.
>Thanks for asking! :o)

Gee, you might want to use this opportunity to try Brooks' nebulizer approach!

>How are you doing? Has the CS helped you?
Dunno, disgustingly healthy!!!

>By the way, I`m not grumpy all the time, just whan folks refer to me as a
>dummy.

Oh, Foo!
Just teasing, and you know it!

>I really thought that the batteries were OK, as the light went on when the
>wires were crossed. Nope...Goes to show that the light doesn`t mean
>anything, I guess.

Gotta turn up the brightness, girl
Maybe on the CS too

Seriously, you might want to buy a cheap Radio Shack digital multimeter to
monitor the current with. You've been doing this long enough to increase the
sophistication of your setup now.

>Well, see you around the List...
>Marsha
YUP!
Chuck
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Raise 2 feet above head and release.


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Re: CS product

[Charles King]

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:07:10 -0800, Marsha Hallett  wrote:

>Marsha, married 26 years to another Chuck. A nice one.

Yes, it's in our nature!
Must be an astrological or numerological thingy.
Sometimes I think of it as a curse!

BTW, now that you've finally found the right jug, how is the flu treatment
going?
You sound as grumpy as ever.
Chuck

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Re: CS product

[Charles King]

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:33:30 -0800, Marsha Hallett  wrote:

>This chicken says: "Chuck you, Farley..."
>Marsha :o)

H, Marsha,
That time again, already, huh?
Duck & cover!

Chuck

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Re: CS product

[Charles King]

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:20:21 EST, donna2...@aol.com wrote:

>Hey Chuck,
>  Marsha is no dummy, maybe the wording should be that it was a simple 
>mistake. 
>Donna

Marsha?, Marsha?
Did anyone say Marsha?
Chuck
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Re: CS product

[Charles King]

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 07:51:33 EST, whisper...@aol.com wrote:

>Hi,
>
>This is my first week on the list.   So far I've learned CS usually isn't 
>effective in wart removal or for flu prevention.  

I don't think that's quite true. The dummy was using plain water and didn't
know it
>
>I found the link --http://www.drclark.ch/bulletin/cs.htm -- to be very 
>informative.  Let's hear more positive testimonials!

Just looked at it. Real nice introduction to CS!

>I received my first CS shipment on Friday.
>The gallon product is clear in color but tastes like what I would guess swamp 
>water tasted like - none metallic but more of a sulfur taste that after 
>drinking, leaves behind a terrible "after" taste.  Do you think this is safe 
>to use?

Sounds like it would "build character", a criteria for " good for you".
What brand/company?

>The 4 oz product, purchased from a health food store, that I've been using 
>for the past month is tasteless.  Both products are 5 ppm in concentration, 
>but I need to take more of the "gallon" product to achieve maintenance.

If I were you. I'd start small dose and build up to effective. You should hear
some of the listers with Lyme or candida talk about their "Herx reactions".
Some of it sounds scary.

>I thought the gallon amount would be more cost effective, but I find I need 
>to take a maintenance dose of 1oz / 100 lbs daily.  
>
>4oz product x 1cc daily   = 120 doses for $16.00
>gallon product-128 oz  x 1-2 oz daily =60 or 120 doses at $41.95 including 
>shipping 
>
>I'm assuming most of you are "brewing" your own product, maybe I'll get there 
>some day!

You just figured out why!
At only pennies (OK, a dollar) per gallon, you can spray it around for dust
mites, plant diseases, cutting board, showercurtain mold, mouthwash etc.

>Thanking everyone in advance for your help,
>
>Marjorie

Welcome Marjorie
Chuck

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Re: CS>Amalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc)

[Charles King]

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 06:55:58 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

>i thought they stopped using mercury in fillings ears ago due to the
>toxicity.
>
>Dennis

Well yeah, for ears!!!
Chuck
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Re: CS>Mercury and Gold (was Melting Silver)

[Charles King]

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:59:14 -0500, "Jeffrey A. Madore" 
wrote:

>So does this mean it is ok to melt silver on a stainless steel surface?
>Someone mentioned pyrex. Would that take the heat without cracking?
>I tried a glazed ceramic tile and ended up with broken-tile-silver-soup!

It's up to you, your experiment! Obviously it can be done, silver melts before
SS does. These guys are talking about something else. Speaking about ceramics,
get a firebrick from a local brickyard and gouge a depression in it. 
If you're using oxy-acetelyne I assume you're protecting your face and hands
and body with leather, shield and wool. (No sandals).
A search on the web for tin-can foundry will come up with interesting stuff, as
will the newsgroups
 rec.crafts.metalworking 
and
 alt.crafts.blacksmithing
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Re: CS>Tyndall?

[Charles King]

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:04:54 -0800, Lee  wrote:

>So Chuck or anyone, what is that "recipe and time window for the 3
>battery system?" 
approximately:
1 14 oz beer glass
2 14 gauge 6" .999 fine silver wire
3 9v batteries snapped or wired in series
2 clip leads
distilled water from the grocers

Almost fill the glass with distilled water.
Bend the wire to form clips, and clip to the edge of the glass about 2-3 inches
apart. Do this the same way every time for consistency on your runs.
Connect the battery pack to the silver wires with the clip leads. (only silver
goes in the water)
Read a book or meditate navel for 45 minutes.
Done!
Wipe off everything with a paper towel and put it away. 
Anything you add is research, convenience, invention or fun!
You're on your own!!!
Chuck
I wish there were a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence.
 There's one called "brightness," but it doesn't work.   

> I am using 12 oz dw plus 2 oz seed for a total of
>14oz, silver wires one inch apart and about 3-3 1/2 inches submerged, a
>stirrer and dmm and stop when I reach 4- 4.5 on the meter measurement of
>current/per Ole Bob.  The time seems to vary with the temperature and
>which dw I use and for other reasons I can not determine.  My run times
>have gone from 1 and 1/2 hr to 2 and 1/2hrs.  Any thoughts or comments? 
>My Tyndall's are getting stronger of late and I don't know why. 
>sparkles are far and few between.  Isn't stirring supposed to keep
>particle size down?
>
>Would love comments on all this.
>Lee


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Re: CS>Hi All

[Charles King]

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:04:13 -0700 (MST), earthd...@webtv.net (Earth Dad)
wrote:

>New to the list and very happy to have found my way here.
>I hope to learn from the info here. 
>
>Is this list archived? If so...how do I gain access. Thanks for being
>here
>Ed
This REALLY otta be in the sig..:

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Re: CS>Tyndall?

[Charles King]

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:05:03 EST, binsm...@aol.com wrote:

>> My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows 
>> tyndall
>>  without sparklies.
>What is tyndall (only explain in terms a newbie can understand)? Is it 
>something I can detect without fancy equipment?
>Nellie

Tyndall effect is being able to see a narrow beam of light as it is shone
through your solution.
 Most of us have used the, now inexpensive, laser pointers purchased at novelty
stores, flea markets, etc. Don't pay more than $10 for one.

Use it on your distilled water before a run, and you will feel a bit more
confident about your water (no tyndall).

 Then try it during and after your run. If you see tyndall, great. If you see
it sharply, great. If you see sparkles in the beam, uh, oh. Sparkles mean large
particles or clumps. Not desireable, cut back on your run time.

None of this is really necessary if you follow the recipe and time window for
the 3 battery system. It's just a fun thing to increase confidence in your
product.
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Re: CS>Re: HVAC PPM was (CS>curiouser and curiouser...)

[Charles King]

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 23:45:56 -0500, "Jeffrey A. Madore" 
wrote:

>Chuck,
>I know that you use HVAC to generate CS. My question is: How do you vary
>the ppm concentration? If I understand correctly, the process is stopped when 
>the
>cone turnes into an arc. I tried this with 10kv and the product was grey with
>obvious fallout.

Actually I do it both ways, lately HVAC.
I don't really concern myself with ppm, I shoot for an effective product.

My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows tyndall
without sparklies. Really, simple as that! It's just easier with HV.

My last run with HVAC, I experimented with 10 megs of resistance to limit the
current to less than a milliamp (9kv transformer). It appears that it could run
for days at that current. I stopped it after 8 hrs. 

I would think from your description above, that you ran it a bit too long or
your water was contaminated.
When I first set up, I used tap water to try it out and got what you described.
Don't use a cleaner (soap or detergent) to clean your container! Remember,
you're a guy!!
 Without current limiting, my run would be about 2 hrs max. 

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Re: CS>Melting Silver

[Charles King]

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 23:40:19 -0500, "Jeffrey A. Madore" 
wrote:

>I plan to melt them on a sheet of stainless, using an oxy acet torch.
>Can anyone tell me if this would cause contamination of the silver,
>such that it would not be optimum for CS generation? Would there
>be a better material to use to accomplish this process? My initial
>experiments showed that the stainless got cherry red as the silver
>reached a temp where it would flow. Possibly I just need to heat it
>more slowly.

Silver melts at 1762 degrees F, Stainless Steel at 2500 F.
I don't see how any contamination would occur.

Chuck
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Re: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE?

[Charles King]

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:04:05 +, "M. G. Devour"  wrote:

> Given the number of people
>who've had good luck with the LVDC generated stuff, you can *not* say
>that they don't work. It is arguable that the HVAC process generates
>a *different* and in some ways possibly *better* product, yes, but it
>does not negate the virtues of the low cost, low tech methods.

HVAC is hardly hi tech, just high attention!
Lonely, like welding, 'cause you don't want spectators near the equipment.
And ,ahem, don't pick up or touch the container during the run, or you learn
that capacitors (your jar) conduct electricity.
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Re: CS>curiouser and curiouser...

[Charles King]

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:00:36 +0200, O2 Communication 
wrote:

>... and I recently made a strong batch for my daughter to soak her feet in
>for plantars warts - using normal tap water.   What a scary-looking product
>we have - it started out milky / cloudy and has over the past two days
>turned a vicious purplish colour and quite opaque.  Do you think this is
>safe for external use?!!
>Yvonne

If you're using tap water, remember that the brewing time is cut down
drastically. Usually about 3 to 5 minutes for a glassful!
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Re: CS>Colloidal silver with citric acid and suitable alcohols superior to trditional colloidal silvers.

[Charles King]

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:46:47 -0800, "Mercer"  wrote:

>I haven't an opinion on their product yet but whomever designed their website 
>should be shot. 
>What's up with that "having to scroll left and right"  to read the paragraphs 
>and the type being printed over a graphic? 
>Very irritating if you ask meand I'll note here that no one did.  :o)
>Jo

Must be the setup on your browser.
 I looked at it with Opera and it looked OK.
I think Explorer allows you to change font size on the fly.
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Re: CS and warts and soldering irons

[Charles King]

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:53:48 -0700, "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
wrote:

>I think we should change the subject, or I am going to be know  on the list 
>as "that wart guy..."
>
>James Osbourne Holmes

Biography:
My dear Holmes, warts and all..
Chuck

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Re: CS>FAQ - tentative version -- last chance to contribute!!!

[Charles King]

On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 20:55:14 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" 
wrote:

>Hydrocele: (Hey Nancy - what is Hydrocele?)
>One of my teen sons experienced acute hydrocele. I gave him CS for two days
>before we could see the doctor. The swelling subsided and has not returned
>since.N.B.

hy·dro·cele (hì¹dre-sêl´) noun
A pathological accumulation of serous fluid in a bodily cavity, especially in
the scrotal pouch.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language.
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Re: CS>Garlic - sulphur

[Charles King]

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:13:05 +, "M. G. Devour"  wrote:

>One step at a time, mate! But the idea of a cluster of alt-health
>related lists and web sites is a good one, as long as we can maintain
>quality across the bunch.

Yeah,
I've been lurking in misc.health.alternative for awhile. Believe me, a
moderated list on this topic is sorely needed. The antiquacks are fearsome,
annoying, boring, bullying pests that stifle serious discussion on any of the
alterative modalities.
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Charles King]

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:36:34 -0600, "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
wrote:

>
>I measured the secondary a couple of times.  It is center tapped, so the 
>meter reads 1/2 the voltage.

Oh! So, that's why you had to measure it twice?
Chuck
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Re: CS>Posts diff.

[Charles King]

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:35:00 -0400, Marshall Dudley 
wrote:

>Good question, and also why is it that sometimes when I reply it wants to go to
>the originator instead of the list and I have to manually move the list address
>into the "to" field?
>
>Devour, anyone?

HMmm...
H A U N T E D!!!
NYUK, NYUK, NYUK,NYUK

W, W,Wo,Wo

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Re: CS -- Anyone tried making it with an Ag ingot/ coin?

[Charles King]

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:41:54 -0700, "J."  wrote:

>Hi!
>I see a plan to make your own 'Colloidal Silver Generator' shown at the
>following link:
>
>http://www.homehealthresource.net/csilvergen.html
>
>uses a . silver ingot (or coin). 
>-A nice diagram is illustrated there. I beliele it's stated there that
>7.5ppm/quart can be attained in 1.5hrs w/ the ingot. (I hope that's not
>75ppm!)
>
>Does anyone here know whether an adequate and sufficient Ag ppm can be
>achieved with this technique?
>What are your thoughts on the design in the diagram?

It's a fine, easy to follow diagram, but a beginner should avoid extrapolating
from explicit directions. Pure silver only, please. Pre-1964 coinage is NOT
pure, but an alloy with metals you do not want in your system. It's easy enough
to get .999 silver. The DIRECTIONS state silver ingots, usually available from
coin dealers, NOT silver coins.
This setup is pretty much exactly what I used for my battery CS generator, with
the exception of the silver shape (I used 14 guage wire). I know it makes good,
useful CS, although I have no idea as to ppm.
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Re: CS>Hi, am brand new to this program

[Charles King]

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 23:08:29 EDT, clh...@aol.com wrote:

>Thanks.
>
>Another question.  I said I knew about the 555, but the schematic calls for a 
>TLC555 or LMC555.  Any idea as to the difference?  Why does it spec CMOS?
>
>Maybe I could go to the ti, or motorola site to find the specs?
>
>Thought you might know.

Sorry,
I'll help, but I don't do homework.
Chuck
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Re: CS>Hi, am brand new to this program

[Charles King]

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 18:46:23 EDT, clh...@aol.com wrote:

>What is an RS vectorboard?
>
>I was going to start with my Archer experimenter socket, which some might 
>call a breadboard.

Same thing. Vectorboard's a trademark name for a manufacturer.

Chuck
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Re: CS>Hi, am brand new to this program

[Charles King]

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:38:46 EDT, clh...@aol.com wrote:

>I don't know about cloidal silver, but heard it is something like the 
>parasite zapper.  That is what I am interested in.
>
>I want to build one.  I know how the 555 works, and have made my own printed 
>circuit boards before, but may end up buying one.
>
>Kent H. Hervey

Kent,
I built mine from this schematic
http://www.sota-inc.com/images/schem.htm
Built it on a RS vectorboard and just left it that way!
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Re: CS>What am I making ?? c/gold

[Charles King]

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 09:40:34 +1300, " P Yanko"  wrote:

>trying c/gold
>A little bit of experimenting has produced a clear solution with a very
>faint tinge
>almost akin to a blue tropical lagoon.
>.
>2 electrodes 99% Gold .7 mil dia 1' wetted. spacing 2.5mm, volts 36. Dc
>current increased from 1ma
>to 30 ma  after 12 days. hard black crud on electrodes, (had to scrape it
>off) normal room temp (not heated water)
>No fallout. using steam distilled water. no starter solution. no additives
>good tyndall effect.
>
>Does anyone have any idea what I have made, I sure dont.
>
>P Yanko

I dunno, but it's interesting.
I thought you had to arc underwater to make CG.
Chuck

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Re: CS>brown bottles and questions?

[Charles King]

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:11:54 -0600, "Creston"  wrote:

>Thank you for that information. Your Answer, Steven, brings up an additional
>question about the spray nozzles. Did you just "hunt around" in your home
>till you found one that fit or are their stores/drug stores maybe that carry
>a variety of those? I am restricted to living in self-imposed beauty in the
>sticks - far away from a big city.
I found a nice pint size in the garden center of my local Wall-Mart!

>In the archives I also  read that aluminum foil around a glass bottle "makes
>up" for the dark effect - any knowledge on that, anyone?
You're worrying way too much about light. I just wouldn't store it in sunlight,
I don't know why, just general principals.
Chuck
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Re: CS>Re: Nicole/Insomnia, Ornithine question

[Charles King]

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:13:09 -0700, "James Allison" 
wrote:

>Yours in health,
>James Allison
>
>Allisons Apothecary
>http://apothecary.hypermart.net
>Home of the $29.95 Colloidal Silver Generator

James,
I thought your generator used to be $49.95.
Did Marsha bring consumer pressure to bear?
Chuck
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Re: CS>Off Topic - Can anyone help??

[Charles King]

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:29:04 EDT, frineha...@aol.com wrote:

>Where can one buy a Don Croft Zapper??  URL??  
>Can someone suggest locations for purchase of zappers?   Or instructions for 
>making your own??
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.

C'mOn folks!
Help yourself to help yourselves!
3 minutes on a search engine using Don Croft Zapper keywords came up with:
http://www.mind.net/aware/parasite.htm
If it's that easy, why ask someone to do it for you?
No charge, you're welcome
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Re: CS>Off Topic: fasting question...

[Charles King]

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:41:09 +, "M. G. Devour"  wrote:

>Seriously, though, two level teaspoons of sea salt in a quart of 
>water tastes pretty bad to me! I couldn't choke it all down.

Mike,
Hold your breath as you drink (or hold your nose). You won't taste a thing!

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Re: CS>Vortex made easy

[Charles King]

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:10:25 EDT, wong...@aol.com wrote:

>Incidentally, I drilled a 3/8" hole in the bottle cap, 3/4 filled with water 
>and turned it upside down. No water flow. How you do dat?

That's a childs magician trick! Air pressure is keeping the water from
escaping. Does it stay in even when you swirl the bottle?
You may have to increase the hole size.
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Re: CS>Bob Berger address?

[Charles King]

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:59:55 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" 
wrote:

>Does anyone have Bob Berger's info on how to send him samples for ppm
>testing?
>Thanks,
>Katarina

Kat,
Here is his e-mail.
bober...@mail.swbell.net
Check with him for directions.
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Re: CS>Rechargable batts

[Charles King]

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:43:24 -0600, Joe Fleck  wrote:

>Anyone help here? I'd like to use 9v Ni-Cads for long term CS generation
>but the ones at Radio Shack only deliver 8.4 volts at a full charge. Is
>this going to be a problem?

I wouldn't think so. All of this stuff is approximate. Use 3 or 4 nicads if
you're doing the 3 battery setup. You'll have to recharge more often of course,
and your battery costs will be way too high initially.
 Frankly, I don't see a real advantage. Regular 9v carbon-manganese should last
between 6 months to a year or more, and would cost less than $5 for 3.
 What are nicads going for, $8-$10 each?
I'm still on my first group of 3 batteries!
Chuck
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Charles King]

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:24:17 +0930, "Andrew"  wrote:

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post!
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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[Charles King]

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:50:20 EDT, zarko...@aol.com wrote:

>A little more tolerance on everybody's part might go a long way in helping 
>calm the waters here and get us back on track toward what we are really 
>shooting for.
>
>Just my two cents worth and please note that I am NOT taking sides here.
>
>Jim Wright

OH YEAH
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Re: CS>Rx humor,OT :-)

[Charles King]

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:10:33 -0500, Tai-Pan  wrote:

>Hi Listers,
>   Have a smile and a nice day.

Thanks Bob,
Stole 'em all!
Chuck
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Re: CS>Can CS help me in this case?

[Charles King]

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:57:28 +0800, "Terence"  wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Terence here from Malaysia.
>I just subscribed to this list just now.
>I would like to get 2 bottles of CS to help
>me out with my gastrointestinal upset.
>
>THE PROBLEM
>--
>2 years back, I bought 2 bottles of friendly bacteria
>supplement from a website. After just 2 days taking the
>supplement, I got diarrhea, excessive rumbling noises in my intestine,
>gas, and loose stool.

Boy, if that's friendly, I'd hate to see the mean ones!


>Soon, I am not able to take sugar ( about 5 months later ), wheat and etc.
>But I knew that is not the problem.
>I believe he product that I bought is untested or contaminated.
>
Certainly sounds like it!
>
>In conclusion, I believe the untested / comtaminated frinedly bacteria that
>I took has
>1) damaged the microvillus in my intestine. The microvillus is responsible
>for absorbing nutrients and producing digestive enzymes. When there is lack
>of digestive enzymes like lactase ( to breakdown lactose) , the intestine
>will get diarrhea
>because the lactose cannot be brokedown, but end up in the colon and etc.
>Same goes to sugar ( sucrase, and maltase )
>
>That is why I cannot take these food that contains lactose, wheat, sugar
>anymore.
Actually, that may not be a bad thing. Those foods aren't particularly good for
you anyway. (Not to minimize your situation though)
>
>3) The website shutdown is a simple reason that there is something wrong
>with the product I took 2 years ago.
>
>4) This untested / contaminated friendly bacteria ( may not even be friendly
>bacteria )
>is causing more damage to the host ( intestine) than to provide any
>benefits.
>
>-
>Solution,
>
>I hope Colloidal Silver can kill those contaminated friendly
>bacteria
>that is giving me so much problem. Because I suspect
>that the contaminated "friendly bacteria" that I took 2 years
>ago is laboratory grown to be resistant to general antibiotics,
>and still adhering on the intestinal walls and causing damages,
>CS would be helpgul in this case.

That's certainly a reasonable assumption!
 If it were me, I'd make a simple generator so as to be able to make large
quantities without going bankrupt.
To get CS into the gut, I believe it would be neccessary to swamp the system
with as much as 4 to 8 ounces at a time.
 I would also (after 4 to 6 hours) try to reintroduce friendly (don't wince)
bacteria by eating unpasturized yogurt. Most lacto-intolerants can take yogurt
as it is predigested by bacteria action.
But, that's just me!
Please, whatever you do, post your progress?
Chuck
Important Things My Kids taught Me

It's more fun to color outside the lines.
If you're gonna draw on the wall, do it behind the couch.
Ask why until you understand.
Save a place in line for your friends.
If you want a kitten, start out by asking for a horse.
Making your bed is a waste of time.
If your dog doesn't like somebody, you probably shouldn't, either. 
Toads aren't ugly. They're just toads.
just keep banging until someone opens  the door.
Don't pop someone else's bubble.
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V99 #668

[Charles King]

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:40:00 -0400, "Jeffrey A. Madore" 
wrote:

>Thanks so much for your response. One last question: In generating CS with 
>HVAC,
>is the positioning of the above water electrode verticle, such that the gap is 
>between
>the end of the electrode and the water?
YES!
>Would anyone know the quickest way to get .999 silver?
Get it from Marsha. You won't have to deal with a $25 minimum order then.

Chuck
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  used as a kind of divining rod to locate expensive parts not far from
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Re: CS: a question on MSM please

[Charles King]

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:28:44 EDT, ppeon...@aol.com wrote:

>
>Hi Everyone, 
>
>Can anyone explain to me what MSM is? 
This info page will tell you:
http://www.all-natural.com/msm.html

best prices on the net available at 

http://www.dancingwolf-inc.com/

I take it in tablespoon doses so bulk price is important to me.

Chuck
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Re: CS>very interested

[Charles King]

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 09:00:31 -0400, "Clarence A. Rainwater"
 wrote:

>I am also new at all this,but I'm not sure how to get my answers.I need to 
>know what is the best machine
>to buy(reasonably priced that is)
I dunno, it was too simple to make my own.
> Can you make it yourself?
Absolutely! Ask Marsha for her kit. It explains the simplest of setups.
>What is this about a constant current?
Refinements that the techies are playing with. Lurk and learn, but not
absolutely neccesary to make good CS.
>Do you have to use distilled water only?
You should, otherwise you may have something undesireable in your solution.
>What if you can't get distilled water,will it not work?
Yes but, see above! You don't have supermarkets where you live?
>Where can I get the best info on all this? 
AHEM
>Thanks for putting up with us beginners :>) it's really very interesting.
I'm basically a showoff!
Thanks for the opportunity!!
Chuck

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 invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
 a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
 the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
 solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
 a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
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CS>Re: HVAC

[Charles King]

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:40:31 -0400, "Jeffrey A. Madore" 
wrote:

>Hi Chuck,
>
>I had a few questions about your HVAC configuration and would really
>appreciate your assistance:
First of all, search the archive, 'cause what I know was learned from threads I
picked up on the list.
>
>Can you describe the positioning of the electrodes?

On my setup, one electrode is immersed and coiled on the bottom of the jug. The
other is suspended above the surface of the water by approx 1/16"

>What type of jug are you using? (wide mouth? etc)
Yes, wide mouth, approx 3/4 gal.
>What ppm did you achieve with the 9kv setup?
Have no idea. It's effective, that's all I really care about. If you need that
kind of info, samples can be sent to  Bob Berger on the list. He's got the
proper equipment. The TDS1 will not measure ppm of colloidal silver.
Bummer,'cause it only cost $15.

>Do you see an advantage with HVAC vs LVDC?
Seem easier to control particle size, and I make a batch that lasts a month or
more all at once.
Nothing wrong with LVDC, I enjoy mad science!
>Where do you buy silver and what shape is best ie. wire, bar, etc?

Get it from Marsha on the list. Then you won't have to go for a $25 minimum.

>I have a pair of 10kv oil burner ignition transformers that I want to
>try. I was considering using them both (series secondary) to produce
>20kv. Although I may start out with just one. Can you tell me what the
>configuration would look like. I guess I'm confused as to the electrode
>placement in the water, the cone effect, etc.

As above. The cone happens when you turn on the juice. The water will rise to
meet the suspended electrode. If it drops off, arcing will occur. I don't know
if thats good or bad. It would happen on a straight run (no resistance in the
circuit) after about 2 hrs. I would end the run then. My sol would be a light
golden color, indicating satisfactory small particle size. The water would be
hot.

Knock yourself out! Your working with high voltage. All safety precautions
apply. I am only relating my experiences, you're on your own!

I am posting this to the list, as I believe it is of general interest!
Chuck

I don't blame Congress. If I had $600 billion at my disposal, I'd be
irresponsible, too.


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