Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Darryl. I am coming to OZ in a few monthsI would like to meet you Cisco You are more than welcome in biker mode if you prefer... in a quest for knowledge... or as a seeker of truth... up to you old son ? Darryyll -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Darryl, I am gonna be niceOK... I am not gonna say exactly what I feel...it is gonna be hard but eh that is ok. Well I am glad you are being nice! I been at this since 1974I have gone to more countries than you can spell Don't bet your life on that, anyway Cisco that is not a qualification for advising people to spend $450.00 plus to make C/S as you did in earlier post ...plus you criticised someone else who quite rightly found it could be done for $20.oo buckspeople are interested in making C/S not charging yacht batteries ... I will wait on what others have to say about your advise. I deal with more people than will ever enter your limited life. Basically I have forgotten more then you know about Rife and CS! Now remember I pledged not to get into this nasty stuff ...and I won't. I have BSME from San Diego State University, and I hold a Master Journeyman Milwright card, a Master Welder Card, a Master Hydroilics/Pnuematics Card. I wrote the Clayton Journalsand I have built and designed (helped) three new types of Rife units as well as three different types of CS makers.. I deal with three countries, 15 islands and 3000 people and you pass gas...I am just a ex-Marine trying to help people not insult them, and I dont claim to be no masiahas you do. I do not think I insulted you I just said you were wrong, and your advice was wrong about the need to spend $450.00 US dollars to get a solar panel to make C/S , finding out when people are wrong is the normal way people learn. My work along with 45 others reaches into villages where people dont know what a computer isyer wrong againcause you dont READ what people sayPERIOD. cisco when I ask you for names you can not supply them ...so who are the 45 other people ??? Where are these villages? When do you get time to visit them in your boat, as you seem to spend all your time on it, or the Internet ? We are talking about building a BATTERY CHARGING SYSTEM and the toy unit described will not do the deedPERIOD. Why do you need a battery charger to make C/S ? as I said this is more suited to charging a boat battery than people here would need to make C/S One is needed which will sustain because the sun dont always shinecourse that is not what you read is it? Then it that case a very small rechargeable battery [ about another $10.00 ] can be charged by the solar panel costing no more than $20.00 when it is not making C/S. You can make at least 200 shots of 5 ppm in 250ml on a simple cheap 9 volt battery, say another $10.00 for a rechargeable 9 volt battery. This person didnt want to run out of CSI am telling people how not to go withoutyou dont know what yer talking about againI have to make 15 gallons per week to help people from my own home.. From your home or yacht? I guess you can say that too I have people coming from the Rife List to see what I do they will know when they leave I am no liar.what exactly do you do besides judge? Try to make sense of stuff! For some reason you feel your a cybercop who has his own ideas and can tell the world they dont know what they are talking aboutso tell me oh wise onegive us the benefit of your actual field workwhere have you gone, what place, what islandwho have you helped, tell us the general location, and where is your actual work being done... because I dont offer up our people to you like sheep so their government can kill them makes me the foolwrong again. I dont offer up people to prove pointsI dont sacrifice my people to serve little peoples needs...I worked for years to build trustI dont lie nor will I risk my people for your little demeaning BS.I ask once you stop bothering meyou dont have the expertise to do itnow I am not telling you leave me alone, I am demanding it. Well you said you would not respond to me anyway ... I am putting up stuff for others to gain from, not trying to knock you down . I think you should acknowledge you actually could be wrong about something's...even learn from here ...even learn from me I am no cybercop, or intellectual, but why should I stay quite when something's here are misguiding people let others fully investigate the three points I have contributed to date. A THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DISTILLED WATER BEING DEAD WATER. B ADDING C/S TO THE SOIL WILL KILL ALL THE BENEFICIAL SOIL MICROBES. C A $20.00 SOLAR PANEL WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH MILLI AMPS TO MAKE UP C/S I live on a sail boat where we are required to charge our batteries by Solar and Wind Generators. I have built 9 Solar CS/Generators and personally deivered those systems to people who dont even speak english...and couldnt make them work had we not shown thembut we dont charge for our help and we dont belittle people for not having YOUR education and ability to do nothing and insult all.sorry Holmes I dont like you and I dont think your worth
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Darryl, So you been to Guam...eh and it is just like Downtown LA!your a MORONdid you see a Radio Shack?. Better than that about 40 electronic stores in one street, and Continental and other US carriers are daily ... a UPS parcel would be there in 24 hours, you could even get things there quicker from Australia ! How bout...$1.79 per gallon US We pay near double that in Australia, and manage to get by OK ...how about $5.00 per gallon of Milk$6.00 per pound for good meat, and $3.00 for a good apple(one)...ever try to get a part for your Rife machine here? or have you ever tried to get .999 Silver here I could get it to you in 24 hours. eh how about a transistor for your output circuit or a simple probe for your Oscope.how bout an average income of $5.50 per hourdid you also see 35% unemployed.have you been to YAP, Saipan, Majuro, Chuuk, Phonipe, Maug Islands, Peleau. Guam yes Yap yes Truk yes Saipan yes how about Indoneasia... It is spelt Indonesia and I speak fluent Indonesian Apa Kabar Cisco Kenapa kamu di Guam? Untuk apa kamu mara mara ke saya ? Kenapa kamu hanya bohong disini ? Monkin kamu hanya marbok lagi? hey that is cool place, people gettin killed for not liking the government... they did not get killed for not liking the government ...they died while they were looting and other looters set fire to the shops. .and 3500 per year die from Maleriaand 2000 from TB its a big country tourists go. yes I have been to most parts regularly did ya see the pain in the childrens eyes or the elderly dying with no hope... No not once ...you must be talking about another country ?? did you do more than drink beer I do not drink and walk around spending yer moneyhow about it...what did you look for...what did you see and what did you dodid you seek the actual people back from what yer allowed to see as a tourist I have never known of any area in Indonesia off bounds to anyone? or did you play tourist No I make regular trips to all parts of Indonesia Guam aint to bad No its more like a regular state of the USA but it aint Indonesia nor is it Papua New Guinea.but have you really lookedhave you really tried to seeI doubt ityer a selfcentered person as I said beforeyou see what you want and you have all the answersgo into politicsyou fit the moldno insight, little fortitude, and no visionhey Clinton could use you as a friend.no GRIT! Well seems like you want to just abuse me for trying to tell people they can easily make C/S with a $20.00 Solar panel. Darryyll Darryl wrote: Well Cisco I know you don't want to reply to my emails anymore, or simply will not ...but you must understand when you give out such authoritative advise over such a wide range of things, if no one else is prepared to tackle you when you are wrong again, there is always me. Here we find that you are advising people to spend US $450.00 plus to do a job that only $20.00 or $30.00 can easily do, in this case I am talking about Australian Dollars nearly half what you would spend with US dollars in your remote site at Guam! Sorry folks about the exclamation mark, but I have been to Guam on many occasions and it is not any more remote than downtown LA, and very little, if at all more expensive. Cisco you have to understand that making C/S is possible with a few 9 volt batteries in series, or for those with only a modicum of electronic expertise, a simple voltage multiplier will pump 9 volts to 30 volts from a single 9 volt battery either way a dollar investment in the less than $ 30.00 dollars Australian or even less than $20.00 US . for a suitable solar panel to do the same thing $20.00 Australian dollars will easily do it. You see current required is only about 10 milli amps in a well designed circuit to generate the best quality C/S this can be done with the cheapest of Solar Panels ...even putting out as low as 4.5 volts, and a suitable voltage pump will still be in the less than $20.00 [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge your batteries in your boat that goes to all the outer islands , with making C/S, which is a far easier task. I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am considered to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this stuff is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective view, so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some things remain
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Well Cisco I know you don't want to reply to my emails anymore, or simply will not ...but you must understand when you give out such authoritative advise over such a wide range of things, if no one else is prepared to tackle you when you are wrong again, there is always me. Here we find that you are advising people to spend US $450.00 plus to do a job that only $20.00 or $30.00 can easily do, in this case I am talking about Australian Dollars nearly half what you would spend with US dollars in your remote site at Guam! Sorry folks about the exclamation mark, but I have been to Guam on many occasions and it is not any more remote than downtown LA, and very little, if at all more expensive. Cisco you have to understand that making C/S is possible with a few 9 volt batteries in series, or for those with only a modicum of electronic expertise, a simple voltage multiplier will pump 9 volts to 30 volts from a single 9 volt battery either way a dollar investment in the less than $ 30.00 dollars Australian or even less than $20.00 US . for a suitable solar panel to do the same thing $20.00 Australian dollars will easily do it. You see current required is only about 10 milli amps in a well designed circuit to generate the best quality C/S this can be done with the cheapest of Solar Panels ...even putting out as low as 4.5 volts, and a suitable voltage pump will still be in the less than $20.00 [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge your batteries in your boat that goes to all the outer islands , with making C/S, which is a far easier task. I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am considered to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this stuff is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective view, so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some things remain certain, there is no such thing as distilled water being dead , and putting C/S into the soil is the surest way possible of killing the beneficial microbes needed to convert nutrients to plant available nutrients, and if all this is too much to believe, you definitely do not need a $450 US dollar solar panel to generate 10 milli amps to make the best possible C/S. I know there are more than a few equally competent electronic people here reading this stuff who can totally corroborate my latest input I hope they speak up this time. Darryyll YO!, This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it will take to make silver. Cisco It's not me wrote: Nancy, Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 V, 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine or not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it works. http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html -Original Message- From: Nancy B. silverwo...@bigfoot.com To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM Subject: Using Solar to Make CS Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. Colloidal silver made with solar energy Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would be to convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator with two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with an external light bulb I ignore most of the time. I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can you get out of them? Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black out (for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) ÜÜÜ I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at a time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) continues as it has been. Sincerely,
Re: nutrients
Darryl, You are harsh! But am I factual is a better question? That is your way of doing things, I can stop that. I agree that you do make some good points. I also agree that CS may not be good for the soil. But lets look at this from a different perspective. (Mind you, I don't have any proof one way or another, this is just an idea I have.) What if the CS only distroys the bad bacteria, or if you are of the school of thought that thinks bacteria can change from good to bad and back again (which I believe it can) then maybe the CS is not killing the bacteria at all, but only changing it back to a good form. This is streching the bow to flat. Any broad spectrum anti- biotic such as colloidal silver can not discriminate between good and bad bacteria ...though I think here we should have terms like pathogenic and non pathogenic. If this is the case, the soil would only benefit from being sprayed with CS, just as the body benefits from CS. I still don't get it. What are we killing in the soil that is so harmful? We are made up of bacteria much like the soil, and the CS does not make us barren! How are we made up of bacteria ?... I have never heard of that before? regards Darryyll Just a way to look at it different. God Bless you all! Jim Einert, N.D. Darryl, You make some good points, however. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it isn't the fact that you disagree with people, it is the way you go about it that causes the problem. Well why pussy foot around ? Why should communications here be all nice touchy, feeley stuff ? If we are to get to the truth about the use and abuse of C/S silver then if some of us have some really factual stuff to put up why not simply put it up ...if that means demolishing something that is nonsense what better way to do it if someone else puts up something to knock out a wrongly held belief by me, I will be better off for it if they have to apologise for putting me right just to keep some feel good thing going, it might not knock out the wrongly held belief in me, or others. I am not being combative for the sake of it, but don't you think we loose credibility here if we accept stuff just because it is contributed [ From me or others! ] Someone prove that sterilising the soil with an antibiotic like C/S will make for healthy plants please step forward ... If I am wrong this time and Cisco is right it is up to him and others to demonstrate that with facts, not fantasies or apologies after all he contributed the information as facts ...someone not knowing otherwise would make a big error in accepting those facts and implementing them, C/S would suffer, as would the user of C/S ...and all because just the opposite case was not put up forcefully enough! There are plenty of places on the Internet to have social chit chat, and accept any theory simply because you don't want to offend a new found friend, but they will not become repositories of truth, useful, or factual information, when people are here searching for what could be life or death knowledge. Perhaps a sharper tone will cause people to think or check their facts before they post, and that would mean a more useful and reliable source of knowledge, then again I may have strayed on to a social ritual that would prefer niceties to truth. Someone please demolish my argument, not demolish me. Darryyl . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: nutrients
Darryl, I dont have a lot of time to waste on conversation with you on a subject which we work with daily. So.. I wasted two hours of my time taking your and my Argument to the Botanical Studies Group at UOG (University of Guam). I work closely with three of the Professors What are there names? there in a attempt to use R/B to kill a mite which is killing american beesthey also have helped me with the CS being utilized in the outer islands here and in Indonesia as well a Papua New Guinea. Where abouts in Indonesia and Papua New Guinea ? They like myself disagree with your thinking. What part do they disagree with ? As we use this product not only to treat the soil but also the plants with good result I have no further reason to argue on this subject, I am satisfied your inncorrect. As to your apology, it is insincere and self serving which does not supprize me. Why do you say that ? ..I prefer conversation which will help this list and those people who need the help to move forward and survive So do I. rather than waste time with verbiage and diatribe which misdirects, slows experimentation, hampers good conversation geared to find factual remidies other than personal point of view. Enjoy Life... I do. So no debate now because you are right again? I promised to avoid being rude or confrontational, and I will keep that promise. I apologised for saying the things I said in the way I said them, now because I dared to challenged your post once for the benifit of others I am excommunicated by you. OK if thats the way you resolve things so be it. regards Darryyl -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: nutrients
Darryl, You make some good points, however. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it isn't the fact that you disagree with people, it is the way you go about it that causes the problem. Well why pussy foot around ? Why should communications here be all nice touchy, feeley stuff ? If we are to get to the truth about the use and abuse of C/S silver then if some of us have some really factual stuff to put up why not simply put it up ...if that means demolishing something that is nonsense what better way to do it if someone else puts up something to knock out a wrongly held belief by me, I will be better off for it if they have to apologise for putting me right just to keep some feel good thing going, it might not knock out the wrongly held belief in me, or others. I am not being combative for the sake of it, but don't you think we loose credibility here if we accept stuff just because it is contributed [ From me or others! ] Someone prove that sterilising the soil with an antibiotic like C/S will make for healthy plants please step forward ... If I am wrong this time and Cisco is right it is up to him and others to demonstrate that with facts, not fantasies or apologies after all he contributed the information as facts ...someone not knowing otherwise would make a big error in accepting those facts and implementing them, C/S would suffer, as would the user of C/S ...and all because just the opposite case was not put up forcefully enough! There are plenty of places on the Internet to have social chit chat, and accept any theory simply because you don't want to offend a new found friend, but they will not become repositories of truth, useful, or factual information, when people are here searching for what could be life or death knowledge. Perhaps a sharper tone will cause people to think or check their facts before they post, and that would mean a more useful and reliable source of knowledge, then again I may have strayed on to a social ritual that would prefer niceties to truth. Someone please demolish my argument, not demolish me. Darryyl . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: nutrients
Whoa back Cisco What we have done to treat gardens, rice patties, corn and other acreage is a simple thing for soil treatment only. What exactly are you treating ??? Kill off the soil microbes with C/S as you would be doing, and you will totally eliminate any possible chance of the crop/plants etc taking up the nutrients that are vital for the crop/plants to be able to grow at all ! The obsession to kill microbes with C/S should be tempered with the fact that less than 1% of all microbes are pathogenic, less than 1% again of the pathogens are harmful to man Since I subscribed to the silver list this is about the dumbest thing I have read. It is either not what you do Cisco, or you should not be doing it. Too bad about the dumping I will now get. Soil microbes breakdown organic and other matter into humus and humus gasses to make the nutrients available to the plant for up take via the root system and also the stomata on the underside of the leaves of all plants kill of the soil microbes and you kill off the plant We take a 5 gallon bottle and make the stuff so strong it is nearly chocolate in color. Then we utilize a slow drip into the water supply being sprayed or irrigated into the field or patty. This does not allow for a contrlled amount persay but it does allow for the CS to get back to the soil. For what purpose are you treating the soil ??? It is not disease ridden, but will become as barren as Michael thinks it is, if you kill off the soil micro-organisms, and what ever plants you could grow in sterile soil, they would be sick beyond your worst imagination, that is if they grew at all !! Of 20 Rice Patties treated the results appeared to be good. We had less rot problems less mold and mildew, and the crops appeared to be slightly larger than usual (course that could have been weather related). We also had less insect problems. Sorry Cisco they are rice paddies not the edible type of patties What in fact exactly where the prior rot and mould and mildew problems ? None of these are normally harmful to anything in the soil or plants Plus the biomass in a healthy soil MUST contain these in big numbers. The rot, mildew, mould etc you speak of are fungi from the family of saprophytes, they consume only DEAD organic matter, and are not parasites, and are as important to a healthy soil as are earthworms and nutrients. I dont know if you are talking about 100's of acres but the same system could be utilized in the irrigation or spraying systems. Lets hope no one ever does put C/S in an irrigation system would you think heavy chlorination would be a good idea yet that s the same as putting in C/S for this purpose !! So what is the purpose??? Unless the crop is sick what exactly are you treating I dont really know if this would be cost effective in your areabut if it results in a 5% increase in the production it could pay for itself. What is the mechanism that will cause an increase in production ??? Espically if you dry your crop as in Soy Beans.we lost a lot of product due to roteh just an idea and the point of how we do it. Well you sure lost me on this very unwarranted use of an anti biotic C/S is for pathogens in sick organisms, plant, animal or human, not to make healthy organisms normally totally dependant on beneficial micro-organisms for health and growth, lacking in the very mechanism that sustains health I guess I will be bounced again from the list now I disagree again with another contributor but what can anyone gain here from nutty contributions, based on good intentions and totally ignorant science??? .before anyone jumps to Cisco's defence try reading The Secret Life of Soil by Christopher Bird ...or The Secret Life of Plants same author or just check out the most elementary info on beneficial soil micro-organism's Cisco you will have to do better than this if anyone takes this post seriously then actually implements the suggestions they are going to get the sickest soil, and the sickest plants. Darryyll JOSEPH T HARRISON wrote: Just wondering how silver, selenium etc. is replaced in depleated soils. Most fertilizer does not have these things in it. CS made even by Cisco's method would be expensive on large scale farms. Joe -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or
Re: ME AGAIN
Thank you kindly Dean...also Cindy -Original Message- From: Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, 18 May 1998 13:21 Subject: RE: ME AGAIN Do you know what Daryyll? You made a bunch of good points, and you made it without insulting anyone. Let's respect one another as God's creatures who share this earth. I am interested enough to pursue this question from a scientific point of view. It is really a simple question. Is pure water (i.e. distilled water) bad for you or good for you. If science can't answer that, we're indeed in bad shape. God Bless Dean -Original Message- From: Darryl [mailto:vital.ea...@hunterlink.net.au] Sent: Sunday, May 17, 1998 3:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fw: ME AGAIN -- I can at least speculate a mechanism where distilled water might not be the best thing going under certain circumstances. Most of what's in the world is soluble in water at least to some extent. grin If you drink some distilled water, osmosis will take place until some equilibrium is reached between what's going on in your tissues and the water you've added to your system. Mike ...are you suggesting that distilled water will dissolve your body??? Some minerals from your body will end up dissolved in the additional water. Not really the water passes through your bowels not your body, it is blood that flows through your body not water, if you want to dump unwanted toxins from your body you need a blotting paper water [ such as distilled ] , not an overloaded tap water, mineral water, spring water, etc If you want good water to make your blood from, why have the water laced with all the intentionally, and accidentally added chemicals found in tap water? Also what do you mean by additional water ? Try thinking of tap water as a substance with additional unwanted contaminants, not pure [distilled water ] as additional water Or worse the overloaded minerals of dreaded mineral water [ better known as fossil water ]. God [ Nature which ever ] gave us cleaned distilled rain water for us to drink, he/her [ nature ! ] provides this for the plants we eat, the lawn we grow, the flowers we plant, why is the soil not barren and the flowers dead, and the plants not flourishing, and the animals dying, if distilled water is something so dangerous as to be avoided? Did you ever notice how well your garden, farm, lawn, livestock improved after good old rain [ distilled water ] falls did you ever try to get the same result with bore water full of fossil minerals? you will probably kill the plants, lawn etc. Did you never notice that farmers pray for rain, not a tap? Good old distilled water !!! If your body needs calcium for example, get it from milk, drinking fossil water from an underground aquifer is the wrong type of calcium. While these myths abound about distilled water people are denied the one thing that is so simple to do to regain your health drink PURE water. There are no bugs in distilled water because there is no nutrient for them to live on! A small home distiller is all you need for all your drinking water, cooking water, and colloidal silver making, keep the lid on after you make distilled water, and the pH will be just right, almost all modern home distillers are not closed systems, and are designed to re oxygenate the distilled water as they make it. *IF* you have a diet strongly deficient in a given trace mineral, wouldn't it gradually be diluted and depleted from your tissues to some fairly low level? After time your body would become as barren as the soil in which your food is grown. We don't eat the soil we eat the plants, I have seen nothing that suggests yet that plants are somehow without nutrient ?? In any case where are barren soils producing plants? Or conversely what is wrong with adding some organic nutrients say worm casts made from your kitchen scraps to your soil if you are growing your own, or only buying certified organic produce. Get you nutrients from the plants in their organic form, and dump the toxins your liver rejects into a water such as pure water [ ie distilled ] able to uptake and rid your body of the rejected stuff. This assumes, of course, that your tap water normally contains enough of the same trace mineral to help the body obtain and retain it. Your body can not uptake inorganic minerals from tap water, but it can be harmed by the many chemicals in tap water, so better not assume. This is simple-minded speculation on my part. I don't have a good gut feeling one way or another on whether distilled water is bad/good for you, or under which circumstances it's even important. I think we've seen some good comments on both sides of the issue. As you can see I believe in distilled water ...25 years of drinking it, cooking with it, and now making C/S with it, and 25 years of good health, have lead me to one conclusion
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-- I can at least speculate a mechanism where distilled water might not be the best thing going under certain circumstances. Most of what's in the world is soluble in water at least to some extent. grin If you drink some distilled water, osmosis will take place until some equilibrium is reached between what's going on in your tissues and the water you've added to your system. Mike ...are you suggesting that distilled water will dissolve your body??? Some minerals from your body will end up dissolved in the additional water. Not really the water passes through your bowels not your body, it is blood that flows through your body not water, if you want to dump unwanted toxins from your body you need a blotting paper water [ such as distilled ] , not an overloaded tap water, mineral water, spring water, etc If you want good water to make your blood from, why have the water laced with all the intentionally, and accidentally added chemicals found in tap water? Also what do you mean by additional water ? Try thinking of tap water as a substance with additional unwanted contaminants, not pure [distilled water ] as additional water Or worse the overloaded minerals of dreaded mineral water [ better known as fossil water ]. God [ Nature which ever ] gave us cleaned distilled rain water for us to drink, he/her [ nature ! ] provides this for the plants we eat, the lawn we grow, the flowers we plant, why is the soil not barren and the flowers dead, and the plants not flourishing, and the animals dying, if distilled water is something so dangerous as to be avoided? Did you ever notice how well your garden, farm, lawn, livestock improved after good old rain [ distilled water ] falls did you ever try to get the same result with bore water full of fossil minerals? you will probably kill the plants, lawn etc. Did you never notice that farmers pray for rain, not a tap? Good old distilled water !!! If your body needs calcium for example, get it from milk, drinking fossil water from an underground aquifer is the wrong type of calcium. While these myths abound about distilled water people are denied the one thing that is so simple to do to regain your health drink PURE water. There are no bugs in distilled water because there is no nutrient for them to live on! A small home distiller is all you need for all your drinking water, cooking water, and colloidal silver making, keep the lid on after you make distilled water, and the pH will be just right, almost all modern home distillers are not closed systems, and are designed to re oxygenate the distilled water as they make it. *IF* you have a diet strongly deficient in a given trace mineral, wouldn't it gradually be diluted and depleted from your tissues to some fairly low level? After time your body would become as barren as the soil in which your food is grown. We don't eat the soil we eat the plants, I have seen nothing that suggests yet that plants are somehow without nutrient ?? In any case where are barren soils producing plants? Or conversely what is wrong with adding some organic nutrients say worm casts made from your kitchen scraps to your soil if you are growing your own, or only buying certified organic produce. Get you nutrients from the plants in their organic form, and dump the toxins your liver rejects into a water such as pure water [ ie distilled ] able to uptake and rid your body of the rejected stuff. This assumes, of course, that your tap water normally contains enough of the same trace mineral to help the body obtain and retain it. Your body can not uptake inorganic minerals from tap water, but it can be harmed by the many chemicals in tap water, so better not assume. This is simple-minded speculation on my part. I don't have a good gut feeling one way or another on whether distilled water is bad/good for you, or under which circumstances it's even important. I think we've seen some good comments on both sides of the issue. As you can see I believe in distilled water ...25 years of drinking it, cooking with it, and now making C/S with it, and 25 years of good health, have lead me to one conclusion the myths about the negative aspects of distilled water, are nothing more than myths, and every time you examine these myths with an open mind they are easily demolished. Darryyll -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
