OT: Unsubscribing Due to Move to Florida
I'm moving to Florida!! Will be under massive withdrawal...but I'll see you all when I get back online -- soon I hope!! Hugs Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: MCT Update 7/29 AM
Hi Ho Silver Away! (sorry, couldn't resist ) There's a lot of haggling going on here about the use of MCT funds. Personally, I have no qualms who uses my ten bucks as long as it gets used for the "good of all". I prefer it to be used as originally intended, but I will concede to the majority vote. However I wish everyone would get together and make a quick decision. The dilemma I'm facing is that in two weeks (8/15) I will be moving from NY to FL and will be offline. I'm hoping to get back online quickly but that's still an unknown right now. It certainly would help if I knew where to send my money before I skip town. After all, I don't want to be guilty of a pledge and not keeping my promise. Is it possible that we could all come to an agreement in a more timely fashion - please? Let's not be guilty of the usual "red tape" that gov't bureaucracy puts us through. ok...so in the alternative, maybe someone could volunteer to hold onto my money until the decision is made - then forward it to whoever. Reid, would ya like me to send it to you? If this is okay, pls supply your address again; trying to find things lately has become quite a chore. BTW...Didn't I already contribute to that camera? My memory is failing me! In any event, guess I'll find out how the money was used when I get back online. For now, I'll be around until at least the 13th or 14th should a decision be made. Fidget bjs1779 wrote: > > George Martin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:31:19 -0400, Douglas McMurtrie wrote: > > > > => > > =>Regarding the use of funds for Jim Einert. I was not actively > > =>participating on the list when this issue first came up so I don't know > > =>what kinds of commitments where made by list members regarding > > =>reimbursement. My own feeling at this point is that this fund was > > =>started for a specific purpose. The pledges were made for a stated > > =>goal, i.e. for the professional biological testing of CS, and that to > > =>divert funds from that purpose now would be inappropriate and would > > =>serve only to defocus this particular effort. There are many aspects to > > > > My thoughts exactly. The efforts of Jim should be in parallel with the lab > > tests. If the list decides to begin another > > funding effort then I believe it should be separate. We need to remain > > focused on the goal as stated. Of course, > > there can be more than one focus but each should require a different > > 'instrument'. > > > > * My $.02 in lieu of addition pledges (at this time) ;^p > > > > Regards, > > George Martin > > I think someone already suggested that if someone wants to divert > their MCT donation to Jim or Reid that would be acceptable. Gives > each one the power over their OWN money. Otherwise, this could cause > a few problems. We are not at the point yet that we are staring at > a bill to pay off anyway. No one even sent a sample to Doug yet for the > free test! > > bjs > > bjs > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: GSE
Hi Donna, If I remember correctly alot of us here, including myself, have had the same reaction as you. That brain fog can be debilitating and I don't believe anyone knows why or what is causing it, herx or otherwise. As far as CS... I think the lady is wrong about destroying the immune system. It's as close to an antibiotic as you can get and I've never heard anyone mention that antibiotics do that. I've read that it does destroy the good flora in the stomach however so make sure you take acidophilus to put the good flora back. Anyone else hear or read about this? Fidget Donna wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I think I remember seeing a post about this but I kind of skipped right > over it. I started taking GSE about a week ago and lately I have noticed > that my mind does not feel so clear, kind of foggy. Is this a side effect > of the GSE or could it be part of a herx? Does anyone know exactly what the > GSE does. > Another thing, I was in a healthfood store the other day where I was > checking out the CS that was for sale there. The lady asked me what I used > it for. I explained to her that I used it for my lyme and that I was taking > it three times a day. I thought she was going to die, she then preceeded to > tell me how I am destroying my immune system and how CS wipes out the immune > system just like antibiotics do. Does anyone have any input on this? > Donna Earnest > You can also add $10 on my part for the fund > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CISCO
> >Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers -- > >My first impression of this post was shock. It was rather difficult for > >me to believe that Cisco is or "would be" that kind of person. Let me > >tell you why... > >First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and > >found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice versa, > >dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend > >with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on > >different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't. I can > >send them if anyone is interested. However, all these were done around > >the end of May timeframe. Nothing after that. If anyone else has had > >any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note. > >Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made it > >difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in this > >post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz). > > >One more thing everyone may want to consider... Guam, Papua, New > >Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of people > >have lost their lives. I believe the entire country was almost wiped > >off the map. We're talking massive destruction here. > >Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might be, > >maybe we should consider if he is still alive? > >My .02 > > Fidget; > > Personally I find it hard to believe that Cisco could do what Johnny > said BUT I find it even "harder" not to believe Johnny would say something > like that with out good cause. > >I've met Johnny twice and have talked to him many times on the net. > He's the kind of person that thinks with his heart and wouldn't hurt > anyone. I just can't see him saying something that bad about someone > if it wasn't true and he didn't have a good cause. > >So does someone have an E-mail address for Cisco and could get his > comments on what is going on? > > Take Care > > Reid Lists and Reid - The email address I have for Cisco is ci...@iftech.net So who is gonna be the one to blow the lid off this can of worms? Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Boy - They got Plans for US!
I stumbled upon this two days ago and I'm with you Doug! Just like that one episode of the Twilight Zone -- "You wanna see something really scary"? Well read this!!! http://www.in-search-of.com/frames/new_world_order/nwo_fr.shtml Now I'm telling ya...it really makes me paranoid just sending this email cause you never know who's watching! (and you'll read why) What you want to read are all the topics entitled "Omega's"... The last topic is "National ID is NOW Law" -- BUT NOBODY KNOWS IT YET! Fidget Douglas McMurtrie wrote: > > I don't mind telling you all, this one scares the hell out of me. One of > the single most dangerous Big Brother acts on the books. From what I've > heard about this, the basic plan is for a centralized database > containing everyones' health history and every doctor will be required > to report every patient-visit to it. Even if I go to a doc and pay cash > they will still be required to report it. What ever happened to doctor > patient confidentiality. I may not want anyone other than my doctor to > know that I have cooties or whatever. Isn't that my right. Apparently > not! What's going to happen if you refuse to provide your "Medical Id" > to the doctor. Will he have to refuse you treatment? Please somebody > convince me that I'm wrong about this thing. > > Fear and Loathing in the Land of the Free. > > Doug. > > bjs1779 wrote: > > > > I smell a rat! And no doubt Alternative medicene is the cheeze. > > bjs > > > > Associated Press > > July 22, 1998 Laura Meckler > > > > Associated Press > > July 22, 1998 Laura Meckler > > > > Congress Won't Delay Medical IDs > > > > By LAURA MECKLER Associated Press Writer > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Prompted by questions about patient privacy rights, > > House Republicans > > considered -- but rejected -- delaying a program to give every American > > a computer identification number > > to track health care from birth to death. > > > > In a 1996 law, Congress directed the Clinton administration to implement > > the plan. But the administration > > has moved slowly, fearing sensitive information about health and medical > > treatments could land in the > > wrong hands. > > > > While the administration has implemented related portions of the law, it > > has yet to even issue a proposal > > for the patient ID in light of misgivings by privacy advocates and some > > doctors' groups. > > > > The ID numbers are meant to aid insurance companies that need to track > > medical histories as patients > > move from one plan to another, and to help health researchers by > > providing unprecedented data about > > the effect of treatments over a lifetime. > > > > Members of Congress did not recognize the privacy implications of what > > they had done until media > > reports about the issue came out this week, said a Republican > > congressional aide who worked with the > > House leadership in considering a delay. > > > > Leaders considered putting the plan on hold while they looked at it more > > carefully, the aide said. But in a > > meeting late Wednesday afternoon, they decided to let the law stand. > > > > The 1996 law that established the identifying code is known chiefly for > > allowing many Americans to keep > > their health insurance when they change jobs, even if they have > > pre-existing detrimental health > > conditions. The law also directed the administration to assign codes to > > health care providers and > > insurance companies. Those plans are moving forward. > > > > AP-NY-07-22-98 1924EDT > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Testing CS/grapefruit seed extract
Debbie McDonald wrote: > > Dean Woodward wrote: > > > Brooks: I followed up on your information, bought the book and read it. I > > agree that it is shocking indeed! > > > > Is your group open to others? If so, I would be interested in discussing it. > Myself included, I am a victim of nutrasweet toxicity, big time. Deb > > > > -- You are not alone by any means. I'm guilty of using the stuff well over 30 yrs and I am a walking toxic timebomb! Most of my medical problems I attribute to aspartame, however the other ones may also have been compounded by it. Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CISCO
brains wrote: > > Request By Johnny Burton to post this to the lists > > Subject: The Real Cisco or " Fredrick Botten " of Guam >Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:40:06 + >From: Johnny Burton > To: Rifers > > The all concerned. > The below is part of a letter sent to a friend a few weeks ago. It > concerns Rick > " Cisco " and his way of life. If you are so incline to donate anything > for any reason to him I suggest you think twice. I have talked with > Stanley Truman after his 2 week trip to Guam to visit Cisco. After the > phone call it was evident I am a > fool. The following is to let you know what has transpired in the last > few months between Cisco and I. There is only one reason I would > announce being so foolish to the world. This is keep it from happening > to anyone else. > > * Brian, Barbara, Rifers and Silvers -- My first impression of this post was shock. It was rather difficult for me to believe that Cisco is or "would be" that kind of person. Let me tell you why... First, I went to various folders that I keep (different topics) and found many posts by Cisco either replying to Dan Manning or vice versa, dialogue I have had with him regarding my (recently deceased) friend with liver cancer, and other posts where he was just reporting on different methods of treatment - what worked and what didn't. I can send them if anyone is interested. However, all these were done around the end of May timeframe. Nothing after that. If anyone else has had any correspondence after that it would be interesting to note. Now when I thought about all of that and the things he said, it made it difficult to believe he is the type of person that was portrayed in this post by Johnny Burton (and sent in by Brian in Oz). One more thing everyone may want to consider... Guam, Papua, New Guinea was just swept away by a huge tidal wave and thousands of people have lost their lives. I believe the entire country was almost wiped off the map. We're talking massive destruction here. Before we jump to conclusions about what kind of person Cisco might be, maybe we should consider if he is still alive? My .02 Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS Bottling
> Fidget>>>>> > ___ > > Fidget; I am not sure that the blue glass bottle was the culprit, but I > shared with this silver-list, so they can maybe do some tests for > themselves > > We all know that every batch of C silver can be different. So it > behooves each of us to find ways to discover, what product works best > for us. > > Look at Dameon, he goes to some quack and the next thing he's posting is > that all muscle testing is worthless! > > I am merely saying, look at what happened to us here and please pay > attention to the results you are getting!!! I am not badmouthing all > companies who use blue bottles, because I only tested 1 blue glass > bottle, with a sprayer. And I have not tested any of the companies you > mentioned with blue bottles. > > I wouldn't dare post that, or I'd be subject to some kind of lawsuit! > > I did an experiment, the results startled me. No I will not be using > blue bottles anytime soon to store my CS in, that is true. But I cannot > deny or make any claims about other products, homemade or otherwise, > unless they too were tested. > > Dameon, if it makes you feel any better, I will withdraw my offer to > test any of the samples! > > Feel better? > > Whew!!! > > Whatta day!!! > > chc > Sorry chc - guess apologies are in order here. I really have to stop overreacting. No excuses given, just been suffering with a bad sinus infection and my eyes and mind are not concentrating as well as they should be. Just in case you're wondering, yes I tried CS in each nostril - didn't work to kill the infection and the headache is crippling. And the only brand I have is the little blue bottle by Futurebiotics. Come to think of it, I have that other one I bought in the white plastic bottle by Tri-Medica (that's the name!). I just went back and re-read that post. It seems that the original was a quote by you, chc, which should have been in italics (as it usually is) and then in straight font when someone replies. I see now that Ginny was the one that was talking about the Futurebiotics brand she bought and that she was reusing that same bottle and questioning it as well. Sorry I got you so upset. In reply to "paying attention to the results we are getting"... I often wonder if I'm getting any results at all. I read all these things you people do, and the success you sometimes receive, makes me wonder what I'm doing wrong (if anything). Problem with me is that everytime something does go wrong, no matter what it may be, nobody can ever find the cause of the problem. The "normal" treatments that work on everyone else never seem to work on me. Another reason I guess I got excited over what I read [wrong] was that I ass-u-me(d) that if it was cobalt in that blue bottle and it was leeching into the CS, maybe that could be a reason why I continually suffer with swollen legs. I've had every test imaginable (when they are swollen) and yet nobody can find the reason. Thinking that heavy metal toxins are usually not tested for, makes me wonder. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired! Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Cobalt Blue bottles
Well doesn't that just make my day!!! Future-biotics is what I've been buying in that cobalt blue bottle. I'm on my 2nd bottle and have another "extra" that I bought. I also bought one by Medico (I think) that is in a white plastic bottle. You mean to tell me I'm ingesting a heavy toxin leeching from that bottle and the CS is useless? Have a good mind to return the stuff to the herb store (think I will) and bring him this article so he discontinues selling this stuff. BTW...since Solgar products just sold out to American Home Products who just sold out to Monsanto ... the owner of the herbal store is phasing them (Solgar) out too. I don't trust Monsanto in anything they do. A little food for thought to you all. Fidget Zeigler, Virginia A. x1969 wrote: > > Hi, All! > > chc wrote: > "Today was a most interesting discovery. A highly qualified manufacturer > sent me a "42 ppm CS" in a cobalt blue spray bottle. No big deal, > EXCEPT: > The solution would not test viricidal, bactericidal, fungicidal, Nada! I > could not believe it! It would not make any of the reflexes strong. This > is almost a first, sine I have tested hundreds of people with CS to > date! > So we took the solution out of its container, put it a sterile glass > container, still would not test for killing anything! H...What next? > Then we took a known 100 ppm CS, fantastic, proven quality bug killer, > (by our testing and with patients results) tested, still great. Rinsed > out the cobalt bottle with sterile water, several times. Guess what? It > totally deactivated the 100 ppm product! We could not believe it, so I > again decanted the 100 ppm product from the blue bottle, back into > another sterile container! Nada!" > > This brings up some SERIOUS QUESTIONS, since cobalt blue GLASS bottles > have been recommended (as well as brown GLASS or used peroxide bottles) > for the storage of CS since they have no charge that would cause the > silver to plate out ...nor would it deactivate from exposure to light! > Was the cobalt blue bottle GLASS or was it PLASTIC? > > The other big question I have is "Will the COBALT leach out of the glass > and contaminate the contents?" The reason I ask is that Hulda Clark > recommends that all BLUE products whether for ingesting or for topical > use be AVOIDED, since the source of the blue color is COBALT! COBALT is > a HEAVY METAL which accumulates in the body! I know that LEAD CRYSTAL > should not be used to store wine, etc. because the lead will leach out > and contaminate the product. Does the COBALT do the same? > > Are there any chemists out there who can answer this question? (I am > presently re-using the cobalt blue glass bottle that my first CS came in > (Future Biotics brand). > > Thanks in advance! > Ginny > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Provocative thoughts
Whitney and List, I stopped taking the GsE for two days and the fog seemed to clear up. This morning as I was getting all my other herbs ready, I forgot about the GsE and, well, swallowed one! Two hours later it hit me like a mack truck! Had this kind of buzzing in the back of my head as well as the base of my head, got totally disoriented and felt sick all day. Just wanted to lie down and do nothing. Again, couldn't think straight or concentrate on anything. It's like everything I need to do seems like a difficult task and I can't be bothered. Some pretty awful side effects if you ask me! The worst part is that I'm moving to Florida and [trying] to pack up my house and it's making me into a veggie... Not being productive at all. Nobody has to tell me twice...it's already off the shelf! Also, about the acidophilus advice...is DDS a brand name? I already have a jar in the fridge but silly me - haven't bothered to take it! Geez...there's so many things to take that I feel like I do nothing all day except swallow pills! What do you mean by taking "lots and lots of it"? How much is that anyway? Thanks for your help. Fidget Philip Collins wrote: > > Yeah, Fidget, I do think you might go off GSE for a while and see if the fog > clears up. Just go off that one thing. For a week. If you get any > improvement, stay off it, and see how much better you can get. Our brains > are our most precious asset, no? > > I also have candida problems, and had just decided to try GSE for them, but > I may be re-thinking my decision!!! > > Best, > > Whitney > > -Original Message- > From: Fidget > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Monday, July 13, 1998 12:27 AM > Subject: Re: Provocative thoughts > > >That is an excellent question Whitney, certainly one I'd like to know > >the answer as well. I have fibromyalgia and candida. I've been taking > >only one capsule a day (in the AM) for the last two weeks now, > >specifically using it to try and clear up the candida. I also have the > >liquid GsE (glycerine based) which I occasionally use to gargle with > >(very infrequently and I don't swallow it). I've been thinking about all > >this "brain fog" talk here and I'm wondering if that is what is causing > >me to walk around like a veggie. No joke either. I just can't seem to > >think straight lately and my fibro symptoms have seemed to magnify > >itself. I've even developed swollen legs/feet that took a week to > >subside. Pretty painful getting around. > > > >Is it a herx? I wonder since this GsE kills off so much bacteria, etc. > >that it just might be. You think it may be a good idea to stop using it > >for awhile to see if my symptoms clear up? Also, I seem to be > >off-balance, meaning that I frequently stumble or lose my balance. > > > >If this stuff is not the culprit, I really wonder what's causing it. > >I take a lot of different herbs as well as CS. Maybe I'm overdosing or > >detoxing from too many things? I wonder and yet I've been too tired and > >foggy to figure it all out. > > > >Fidget > > > > > >Philip Collins wrote: > >> > >> Hello, Charles. > >> > >> Brain fog is certainly an awful symptom. But I wonder if the brain fog > you > >> mention is a kind of Herx? Any thoughts? > >> > >> Whitney Collins -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Off-TopicRe: another reason to use CS
Joyce Inouye wrote: > > I heard that the Folate, etc. PREVENTS the saturated fats from sticking to > arteries. But once the fats are on the blood vessel walls, then taking > plenty of fresh or dried powdered juices (of fruits/veges/herbs/grains) > which has SOLUABLE FIBERS will help clean and "sweep away" the fat > deposits. > > I think it is better to take whole food concentrates like juice powder, > but there are formulas just for the heart--Cardio One, for example, has > Folic Acid (2.4 mg.), Vitamin B6 (10 mg.); Trimethylglycine (for reducing > homocysteine levels); and a few other ingredients for vascular support. > > I haven't tried the Cardio One, so I don't know how effective it is (I > don't have a heart problem.) It sells for $17.95 at 1-800-227-1937 Ext. > 30740 for around $17. As I said, I think the money would be better spent > juicing your own fresh fruits, herbs, and vegetables, but if you have a > heart problem, you might want to do both. Hope this clarifies your > question. > > Regards, > :) Joyce > > On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Bill Kingsbury wrote: > > > Joyce, > > > > The info I have indicates that some atherosclerosis may be > > caused by elevated homocysteine. This may be corrected by > > increasing intake of folic acid and vitamins B6 and B12. > > > > However, this particular problem is said to be independent > > of cholesterol levels or cholesterol buildup. > > > > --Bill > > > > > > At 05:36 PM 7-14-98 -0700, Joyce wrote: > > > > > > I heard that it is the lac of vitamins (e.g. Folic Acid) that > > > causes cholesterol buildup. Adding this to your diet helps > > > cut down heart attacks by 50%. > > > Bill and List, Came across an excellent website recently which lists many different herbs and their medicinal uses. I've been looking into Licorice for its use in atherosclerosis and this is what it says. Those who have heart conditions should take note that chronic ingestion of the whole licorice root can lead to potassium loss, sodium and water retention, and high blood pressure. You can access the website at: http://www.nutritionsciencenews.com/NSN_backs/Dec_97/science.html Go to the homepage to see how much info this site contains. One more item on my list to buy! The owner of that herbal store loves me! Fidget >From The December 1997 Issue of Nutrition Science News Licorice Clears The Way In Arteries Considered everything from an antibacterial and anti-inflammatory agent to an antiviral and antioxidant compound, licorice root (Glycyrrhiza glabra) just earned a new label. A recent study indicates the herb also protects against atherosclerosis. Atherosclerosis is caused in part by oxidized LDL cholesterol. Antioxidants such as vitamin E, beta-carotene and quercetin can protect against atherosclerosis by making LDL more resistant to oxidation. Like several such heart-healthy supplements, licorice is rich in a type of antioxidant known as polyphenolic flavonoids. Researchers at the Lipid Research Laboratory at Rambam Medical Center in Haifa, Israel, examined the effect of licorice on LDL oxidation in humans. First they collected LDL from the blood samples of healthy volunteers and incubated it with various oxidative chemicals. They found adding licorice extract significantly inhibited oxidation. In part two of the study, 10 healthy men aged 20 to 35 took either 0.1 g per day of encapsulated licorice or placebo for two weeks. Compared to the placebo group, LDL from subjects who took licorice extract was significantly more resistant to oxidative stress. (For more information on oxidative stress, please see story on p. 598.) Should people susceptible to heart disease start taking licorice root? Not yet. Chronic ingestion of the whole licorice root can lead to potassium loss, sodium and water retention, and high blood pressure. Nevertheless, the evidence is strong that supplementing with licorice may help slow accelerated atherosclerosis, in addition to stalling LDL oxidation. --Am J of Clin Nutr, 66(2), August 1997 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: OT: Liver Cleanse
Philip Collins wrote: > > Sandy and all-- > > Thanks and very sorry, I mistyped a q instead of a g. Here is the correct > address for liver cleanse recipe: > http://www.mindspring.com/~turf/alt/reg/cleanse/liver/txt. > > Whitney Collins > That is also incorrect Whitney. Try this: http://www.mindspring.com/~turf/alt/reg/cleanse/liver.txt Hugs Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Provocative thoughts
That is an excellent question Whitney, certainly one I'd like to know the answer as well. I have fibromyalgia and candida. I've been taking only one capsule a day (in the AM) for the last two weeks now, specifically using it to try and clear up the candida. I also have the liquid GsE (glycerine based) which I occasionally use to gargle with (very infrequently and I don't swallow it). I've been thinking about all this "brain fog" talk here and I'm wondering if that is what is causing me to walk around like a veggie. No joke either. I just can't seem to think straight lately and my fibro symptoms have seemed to magnify itself. I've even developed swollen legs/feet that took a week to subside. Pretty painful getting around. Is it a herx? I wonder since this GsE kills off so much bacteria, etc. that it just might be. You think it may be a good idea to stop using it for awhile to see if my symptoms clear up? Also, I seem to be off-balance, meaning that I frequently stumble or lose my balance. If this stuff is not the culprit, I really wonder what's causing it. I take a lot of different herbs as well as CS. Maybe I'm overdosing or detoxing from too many things? I wonder and yet I've been too tired and foggy to figure it all out. Fidget Philip Collins wrote: > > Hello, Charles. > > Brain fog is certainly an awful symptom. But I wonder if the brain fog you > mention is a kind of Herx? Any thoughts? > > Whitney Collins > > -Original Message- > From: Charles L. Church > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Sunday, July 05, 1998 11:39 PM > Subject: Re: Provocative thoughts > > >GSE, Grapefruit seed extract, also called "standardized extract of > >grapefruit", is a powerful antimicrobial agent that is effective against > >yeast and protazoans. However MANY people who take it get severe brain > >fog such as myself. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Melaleuca
According to a search I did, you may be right. It seems they are exactly the same tree, and they have been removing them because they grow so dense that that don't allow for any other vegetation to grow. Seems to me that these people/developers might be so dense themselves they don't realize just how important these tress are. Check out this website and see what you think: http://cnn.com/EARTH/9706/24/wetland.banks/index.html Fidget Carl J. wrote: > > I've 'heard' that Melaleuca trees are 'taking over' portions of the > Everglades - > think I saw this on some PBS science show. Are these the same type of tree as > the ones you speak of? If so, then why can't they be harvested/utilized for > Tea > Tree Oil products - less expensive perhaps. Or are these the wrong type of > Malaleuca??? > Just wondering, > Carl -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Microbial Challenge Test Fund
robert.we...@ny.ubs.com wrote: > > Since I started this, I'm certainly good for $50. I'll let Doug keep the > tally of commitments and will be happy to follow up on the lab side. What > I think I'd like to do is talk to several labs to make sure we understand > what we are paying for and what we expect to get. This will happen before > any money gets collected. I think that all those making a monetary > contribution ought to agree on the lab choice and on the procedure. > > By the way, I received a fax from Nutri Team, the company that makes the > GfSE. It includes test results on Nutri Biotic Liquid Disinfectant (GfSE), > Microdyn Silver Oxide Suspension (I presume this is CS, but somebody help > me out here), Suprayod Germicide (anybody know what this is?), I can help with this one... Melaleuca Alternifolia is TEA TREE OIL -- its an anti-parasitic. The one I have says 100% Australian Tea Tree Oil - Malaleuca Alternifolia. Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: MCT Fund Update
Put me down for $10 as that's all I can afford right now; wish it could be more. Let me know where to send my check. Fidget Douglas McMurtrie wrote: > > OK, it seems that we have at least some interest in getting our own > testing done, so for now let's press on. > > Thanks to all who've pledged. Almost half way there already!! > > Anyone hear from Bob Wells yet? > > Also, again, please hold all checks until we reach the magic number and > work out all the logistics. > > For now the fund stands as follows: > > Debbie McDonaldlullw...@flash.net - $10.00 > Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net - $20.00 > Dameon likow...@earthlink.net - $20.00 > Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com - $20.00 > George george.bere...@nashville.com- $20.00 > George Martin gmar...@usonet.ne.jp- $50.00 > Douglas McMurtrie dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net - $50.00 > ___ > > Total to Date $ 190.00 > > For CHC and any other newcomers: > We are collecting pledges to handle the cost of laboratory testing of CS > at different concentrations against different pathogens > > For George Martin: > I agree that knowing the blood levels vs the ingested levels would be > very valuable info. Maybe after this is done we could have a volunteer > take a very specific dose on a daily basis for a month then have their > blood tested for CS levels. I would be more than happy to serve as the > guinea pig myself. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Testing CS/grapefruit seed extract
There is a "space" between endofthe line that must be closed up so it reads endoftheline. If you copy and paste the URL you can fix it manually. You can also get to this site by using www.sightings.com Fidget Charles L. Church wrote: > > This post GREATLY provoked my curiosity, but when I clicked on the link > it said "Object not found". Any help? I REALLY would like to see this > info. > > Charles > > Brooks Bradley wrote: > > > Your reference to "brain fog" prompts me to offer the following > > suggestion. Our research group has been doing some investigational > > inspections of existing literature/research results relating to > > Excitotoxinsand their effect on the human brain. Among our > > sources we > > discovered the work of Dr. Russell L. Blaylock, M.D. Our entire staff > > was > > thunder-struck by the evidence Dr. Blaylock revealed. I encourage all > > > > members of this list to avail themselves of a general review of his > > work. > > This gentleman is a "world-class" neurosurgeon/pathologist who > > communicates quite understandably to the lay-person. For a revealing, > > > > shocking revelation of one of the most tragicand pressing problems > > > > faced by the U.S. public I highly recommend you access a fascinating > > recent > > public interview between Dr. Blaylock and radio host Jeff Rense. This > > > > interview may be accessed by contacting > > http://www.audionet.com/shows/endofthe line/archive.stmthen click > > on > > the July 2 program. I believe this to be "cutting-edge" > > information. Our > > research group is a non-profit, privately-funded group with absolutely > > NO > > connection to Dr. Blaylock or his staff. Brooks Bradley. > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Telesco Colloidal Silver
For those of us who have financial restraints, which is the most reasonable colloidal silver maker? What is the Telesco one all about and how does it compare? Is it a quality machine? Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Sears Water Distiller
The Sears water distiller sale ends Thursday, June 18. I plan on looking at the unit tomorrow as I am interested in purchasing one. Can anyone guide me as to what I should be looking for in the way of a good unit/bad unit? I phoned the local Sears store and asked if there were any product specs and was told "whatever is written on the box". As I have no knowledge of these machines, can anyone guide me as to what I should look out for? Any specific parts of the machine that break or wear down quickly. Should I buy any extra parts/pieces (is there any)? Guess I will find out tomorrow, but are there any rubber hoses, or other material, that these machines use? Are they of a material that would be toxic that I should watch out for? Sorry for all the questions people...just want to be prepared to make a wise purchase. Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
