OFF TOPIC - Fwd: Microwave information
There seemed to be a few requests for this posting. I thought that I would fwd it to the list again. Those not interested...delete now. Kris > -- > From: Susan M. Yensen[SMTP:syen...@clearwater.net] > Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 3:46 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: microwave LONG > > Hi ,Here's some on microwaves FYI > Susan > > > HuDelivered-To: clearwater.net-syen...@clearwater.net > >Mailing-List: contact support-h...@rheumatic.org; run by ezmlm > >Attached are some articles I found on the subject of microwaving > food. > >I used to use the microwave daily, but not any more > > > >Virg > > > >Re:The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking > > > > * Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] > > * Next message: Shane Smith: "RE: microwave?" > > * Previous message: Beverly Allen: "Re: microwave?" > > > >Wed, 01 Apr 1998 20:38:36 -0700 > >John Wilson (jon...@gcprime.com) > > > >Translated for Beverly: > > > >The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking > > > >Recent research shows that microwave oven-cooked food > >suffers severe molecular damage. When eaten, it causes > >abnormal changes in human blood and immune systems.Not > >surprisingly, the public has been denied details on these > >significant health dangers. > > > >Extracted from NEXUS Magazine, Volume 2, #25 (April-May > >'95).ne...@peg.apc.orgoriginally printed from the April 1994 > >edition of Acres, USA.Back in May of 1989, after Tom > >Valentine first moved to St Paul, Minnesota, he heard on the > >car radio a short announcement that bolted him upright in > >the driver's seat. The announcement was sponsored by Young > >Families, the Minnesota Extension Service of the University > >of Minnesota: "Although microwaves heat food quickly, they > >are not recommended for heating a baby's bottle," the > >announcement said. The bottle may seem cool to the touch, > >but the liquid inside may become extremely hot and could > >burn the baby's mouth and throat. Also, the buildup of steam > >in a closed container such as a baby's bottle could cause it > >to explode. "Heating the bottle in a microwave can cause > >slight changes in the milk. In infant formulas, there may be > >a loss of some vitamins. In expressed breast milk, some > >protective properties may be destroyed." The report went on. > >"Warming a bottle by holding it under tap water or by > >setting it in a bowl of warm water, then testing it on your > >wrist before feeding, may take a few minutes longer, but it > >is much safer." Valentine asked himself: If an established > >institution like the University of Minnesota can warn about > >the loss of particular nutrient qualities in microwaved baby > >formula or mother's milk, then somebody must know something > >about microwaving they are not telling everybody. > > > >A LAW SUITIn early 1991, word leaked out about a lawsuit in > >Oklahoma. A woman named Norma Levitt had hip surgery, only > >to be killed by a simple blood transfusion when a nurse > >"warmed the blood for the transfusion in a microwave oven"! > >Logic suggests that if heating or cooking is all there is to > >it, then it doesn't matter what mode of heating technology > >one uses. However, it is quite apparent that there is more > >to 'heating' with microwaves than we've been led to > >believe. Blood for transfusions is routinely warmed-but not > >in microwave ovens! In the case of Mrs Levitt, the > >microwaving altered the blood and it killed her. Does it > >not therefore follow that this form of heating does, indeed, > >do 'something different' to the substances being heated? Is > >it not prudent to determine what that 'something different' > >might do? A funny thing happened on the way to the bank > >with all that microwave oven revenue: nobody thought about > >the obvious. Only 'health nuts' who are constantly aware of > >the value of quality nutrition discerned a problem with the > >widespread 'denaturing' of our food. Enter Hans Hertel. > > > >HANS HERTELIn the tiny town of Wattenwil, near Basel in > >Switzerland, there lives a scientist who is alarmed at the > >lack of purity and naturalness in the many pursuits of > >modern mankind. He worked as a food scientist for several > >years with one of the many major Swiss food companies that > >do business on a global scale. A few years ago, he was fired > >from his job for questioning procedures in processing food > >because they denatured it. "The world needs our help," Hans > >Hertel told Tom Valentine as they shared a fine meal at a > >resort hotel in Todtmoss, Germany. "We, the scientists, > >carry the main responsibility for the present unacceptable > >conditions. It is therefore our job to correct the situation > >and bring the remedy to the world. I am striving to bring > >man and techniques back into harmony with nature. We can > >have wonderful technologies without violating nature." > >Hans is an intense man, driven by personal knowledge of > >violat
RE: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture
Hi Vern I thought that this area was fairly unknown and uncharted. I cannot claim to have any kind of well thought out theory of how CS works in the body (or in vitro for that matter). It would be good to hear from someone who has conducted such testing. I am assuming, from your comments, that there have been in vitro tests done with CS. If tests have not conclusively shown CS "killing" bacteria, then posing *possible* explanations (via this list), and generating ideas for different ways to test CS, seems to me to be the best way of arriving at the "truth." Kris > -- > From: It's not me[SMTP:rocke...@micron.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 1998 3:51 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture > > Kris and Jim, > > I'm not quite following all the talk about converting bacteria. > Haven't the > in vitro tests shown CS to kill the bacteria or virus rather than > convert > it? I realize that this is different than in vivo, but why would we > assume > that the results would be to convert rather than kill? I'm curious > how this > idea originated. Could you give me some more info. (research or > theory) > that could enlighten me a bit on this. Also, how much magnification > is > needed to see the acidophilus bacteria? Thanks, > > Vern > > -Original Message- > From: jein...@troi.csw.net > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture > > > > From: "Hermes, Kristofer J" > > > To:"'Silver List'" > > Subject: Re: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture > > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:10:19 -0400 > > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > What if there are no "good" or "bad" microbes, but just microbes > that > > "mutate" from a "good" to a "bad" STATE dependent on the "terrain" > of > > one's body. With a highly acidic body, microbes that would normally > > exist as "good" microbes, revert to "bad" ones...without the actual > > CREATION of NEW "bad" microbes. The reason why this thought is > > interesting is that it implies that CS does not actually "kill" > > microbes, but merely "converts" them. > > > > I am not a microbiologist, so I am (ab)using lay terms here...sorry > if > > this is offensive to anyone. Is there someone on the list who might > be > > able to expand on this theory? > > > I'm with you on this Kris! I believe this is what is happening most > of the time. We are not really killing the microbes, just causing > them to change back to "good" bacteria. > > > I am taking an Acidophilus product that does not need refrigeration. > It > > is made by Da Vinci and is called "Flora" (probably available at > many > > supplement stores). If this type of experiment could be done with > > Acidophilus by itself (and not in yogurt), we might be able to make > a > > determination more easily. Has anyone done this, or does anyone > have > > the tools to do it? > > > I have a darkfield microscope, and as soon as I get a little time, I > will give this idea a try, to see if we can see all this take place > under the microscope. I'll post to the list anything I find out. > This is a good thread, keep it going. Maybe we will all learn > something new here. > God Bless! > Jim > > > This is all very fascinating stuff! > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > -- > The silver-list i
Re: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture
On Wednesday, June 3, 1998 at 2:48 AM, It's not me wrote: >I wonder if this line of thought is a bit wishful thinking. If the silver works on the cell wall as some of the research indicates, why would we assume that it would be able to tell the difference between "good" and "bad" bacteria? I probably didn't explain very well what I was thinking here with regards to "good" and "bad" bacteria or microbes. I'll give it another shot... What if there are no "good" or "bad" microbes, but just microbes that "mutate" from a "good" to a "bad" STATE dependent on the "terrain" of one's body. With a highly acidic body, microbes that would normally exist as "good" microbes, revert to "bad" ones...without the actual CREATION of NEW "bad" microbes. The reason why this thought is interesting is that it implies that CS does not actually "kill" microbes, but merely "converts" them. I am not a microbiologist, so I am (ab)using lay terms here...sorry if this is offensive to anyone. Is there someone on the list who might be able to expand on this theory? >I can't really think of a reliable mechanism that would allow CS to work on only "bad" bacteria. If there is/was, why would it necessarily be tuned to human beings. I say this because some bacteria that is lethal to humans may not have the slightest effect on other animal species. "Bad or good" is relative depending on which animal you happen to be. I agree with the part about what is lethal for other animals might not be lethal for humans, but I believe the main point is that for EITHER humans or other animal species do the microbes "die" or are they "reverted" depending on factors like CS, immune system, Ph levels, etc. >The other thing that I have noticed is that when I take CS (or antibiotics) my stomach goes all to heck. I know it doesn't do this to many others and I haven't figured out the reason why. What I do know is that when I take Acidophilus regularly, the CS doesn't create the stomach problems (Similar to Michael's yogurt approach). I don't know what is happening here, but it is important to note that this reaction is particular to your body (chemistry?), and not *necessarily* indicative of a reaction that is "killing" of "good" microbes. >Anyhow, if someone comes up with a good design for the yogurt test, I would be glad to give it a whirl. I'm not too sure how to identify whether or not the acidophilus has been killed off in the yogurt (without a microscope that is). I also don't know how long the Acidophilus would last without refrigeration anyhow. I know that the tablets have to be refrigerated, so the experiment would most likely have to be done under refrigeration or be completed before the natural die off of acidophilus occurred at room temperature. Anyone have any ideas on this? I am taking an Acidophilus product that does not need refrigeration. It is made by Da Vinci and is called "Flora" (probably available at many supplement stores). If this type of experiment could be done with Acidophilus by itself (and not in yogurt), we might be able to make a determination more easily. Has anyone done this, or does anyone have the tools to do it? This is all very fascinating stuff! Kris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture
Michael and List This idea sounds very interesting. I'm not sure if a simple observation would tell you whether or not any "good" microbes were being "eliminated" or "killed" within the yogurt culture...is rancid yogurt a sign of "dead" microbe culture??? BUT, what this thread does elude to is finding out whether or not you actually "kill" microbes or merely "revert" or "convert" the "bad" ones into "good" ones (possibly by the observation of sustained culture life in the yogurt for a prolonged period of time). It would at least point to a possible conclusion that CS does not "kill" "good" microbes. I am not on an experimental track at the moment, but if anyone tries this, please post to the list! Kris > -- > From: Michael C Slivinski[SMTP:sunbr...@mymail.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 10:18 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture > > Regarding curdle milk... wondering if an experiment with cs and yogurt > culture > would do/look the same. This would raise or show some concerns about > how cs > works > on helpful culture in our gullet seems like you tanking cs and > yogurt and > alternating back and forth that hopefully you get out the bad ... > replenish > the good and still get the cs into the system to continue the good > work. > Any further thoughts here??? Thanks michael slivinski > > > >I'm sure this has been done a dozen times already on the list but > just > >for fun I took 2 double shot glasses and filled them both with milk > that > >was about to expire. To one glass I added one eyedropper full of CS. > >Homemade and of unknown concentration but a nice golden yellow. I put > >both glasses side by side on top of the nice warm refrigerator. In > about > >36 hours the untreated milk had curdled in a most disgusting fashion > >while the CS treated milk looked just as it did when first poured. As > a > >final test, and to get an unbiased opinion, I put both glasses on the > >floor where the family cat promptly lapped up the CS milk and ran > like > >hell from the curdled stuff. > > > >I know most folks on this list don't need any convincing but if > you're > >looking for a cheap, easy way to demo the reality of the CS effect to > >skeptical friends then this is pretty effective. > > > >Best to all, > > > >Doug > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Pityriasis Rosea
Thanks for the comments. I just thought that I would clear up a couple of things. On May 27th, 1998 at 5:12 PM, Susan M. Yensen wrote: >#CS will kill any pathogen, it is not selective like antibiotics. we sometimes think because we see the affliction on the "outside" that is where to treat it. taking CS orally would have been the admin. route of choice and perhaps spraying secondarily for "only" symptomatic relief. Actually, I *was* taking CS orally. I have been taking a "maintenance" dose of 1 oz. (7 ppm) per day for a couple of years now. In those two years, I have NEVER been severely afflicted with any viral or bacterial problem (on a couple of occasions I felt very low-grade symptoms of a cold, but always felt well enough to carry on normally - a drastic difference from past colds and flus). >the lesson here is to be a detective and notice the things in your environment that are toxic esp as they accumulate. i have read--always deparasitize--this does help ones sense of feeling well. then what about car/truck gas/diesel fumes, perfumes--esp "natural ones with orris root in them--do you wear cologne everyday? The water you drink, the air you breathe. the perfume in clothes detergent, dryer sheets, preservatives in the food you eat, eating prepackaged preparedfoods(some are so preserved they will be here in 1000 years, or of course you can preserve your body before you die and save on burial expences) ink in the printer, stuff at work--sick building? new things that off gaS FORMALDEHYDE and other noxious fumes that escape you now loaded up naso bulb and smelling capacuty. I try to be very conscious of my environment. I don't use cologne. I eat *very* little preserved foods. The jury still seems to be out on the water issue, but I regularly drink spring water. There are those things that are in one's direct control, that we can all work to eliminate or include, but there are a lot of things that affect my body on a daily basis that I feel I have less control over...I guess my point is that you can only be so much of a detective. I suppose it helps all of us to determine what the "good" and "bad" aspects of our environment are, but one can get rather frustrated at our inability to affect many of them. Again, thanks for your comments. Kris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Pityriasis Rosea
Hello Silver Listers Three weeks ago, I made a post explaining that I had been diagnosed with Pityriasis Rosea, a skin rash that, according to orthodox medicine, is believed to be viral in nature and should last anywhere between 2-8 weeks. I know this pales in comparison to some of the maladies that various people on this list experience from day to day, but the itching and sinus condition that accompanied my "affliction" was very uncomfortable and drove me to impatiently seek its elimination. I also thought that this would be a good way to experiment with CS and other modalities. I had some good suggestions for how to use CS, and I thank all that replied. Most of the suggestions were to apply CS directly to the affected area (my neck), with gauze if possible. As gauze was too impractical for me to have on my neck during work, I kept a spray bottle by my side and kept my neck moist as much as I could. Unfortunately, the CS did not have the effect I was hoping for (which is why I think that this "affliction" was not viral in nature). What follows is a list (by week) of what I tried: Week 1: It started with a sinus condition that I suspected was an allergic reaction or an infection of some kind. I was sneezing a lot and a mucus formed and hardened in my nasal passage that was VERY irritating. Week 2: I started to get a "rash" on my neck and had it diagnosed by an MD friend as Pityriasis Rosea. Week 3: I posted the Silver List for suggestions and started to spray the affected area (both nose and neck) with CS. Week 4: After a week of spraying the area, I got NO noticeable change in my condition. Being impatient, I inquired about Tahitian Noni possibly doing the trick. I purchased a bottle and started using it immediately. Week 5: After taking the Noni for a week, I noticed very little change (although I felt more energetic and generally felt "better"). Again frustrated, I chose to pursue yet another modality...Colonics. After ONE treatment (I hadn't had a treatment in probably 10 years), 3 days afterwards, the rash COMPLETELY disappeared. After another treatment, the sinus condition disappeared as well. Now given my impatience with each method, it is difficult to tell whether one particular modality might have helped if I had stuck with it for longer. The fact that I was taking Noni and doing Colonics at the same time also confuses matters in determining what actually worked. Since this "affliction" is supposed to last between 2-8 weeks, the other possibility is that it just "naturally" left my system on "its" own. Sorry for the long post, but I had some responses early on that said they wanted me to list the results. If I were to draw any "conclusions," I would recommend Colonics for anyone curious. They have always produced good results for me. In fact, as a side benefit, after my most recent Colonic treatments, I noticed the diminishment of a couple of small cysts I had. Anyway, my 2 cents! Thanks all, Kris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: Solar panels & CS
Before Daryll was removed from the list, he mentioned that you could just as easily take the smaller solar panel and charge a "rechargeable" battery, of the type most are using on this list. This means that one can store energy for use when the sun is not shining, even with a smaller battery set up than Cisco's. It is merely a scaled down version of what Cisco had suggested. As a side note: Although Daryll responded to Cisco's original message with unnecessary character critique, he got some good points across. In fact, it was later revealed that Cisco was giving out information for high volume CS production...so, in the end, Daryll was JUSTIFIED in giving his 2 cents (just not in the way he did it). It seems a shame that he will not be able to give that alternate point of view anymore, as he is no longer on the list. As harsh as Daryll's original rebuttal was, I thought that Cisco's rebuttal in turn was far worse. I think to be just, if the list is going to penalize anybody in that altercation, it should be BOTH of them. I have noticed that Cisco is well liked on this list (for good reasons), and he has been consoled many times when people question his methods. This is nice and it shows good camaraderie, but if it means that every time disagreement occurs (even if it involves nastiness), we side with the "preferred" list member, then we begin to limit our thinking and exploration. There is NO ONE on this list that should claim to be the authority on something that is still being investigated...it is not healthy! And if we begin to ostracize those with opposing views, we become no better than the existing "authority" of the orthodox medical establishment. Thanks for listening. Kris > -- > From: Jade[SMTP:intel...@itis.com] > Sent: Monday, May 25, 1998 7:16 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: Solar panels & CS > > At 12:09 AM 5/26/98 +1000, you wrote: > > > Regarding the debate on using various sized solar panels to make > CS, I got > the impression that the larger ones recommended by Cisco were > necessary to > charge a battery. This battery could be used to make CS at any time, > day or > night, sunny or cloudy. However, to DIRECTLY charge a CS generator, > the > smaller solar panels might suffice. This could only be done during > sunny > daylight hours, however. Is this interpretation correct?? > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS and digestive bacteria
For those people eating yogurt regularly (possibly to replenish the "good" bacteria in your body, I might suggest getting goat or sheep milk yogurt, as it seems to be more easily digestible, and less mucus forming than cow milk yogurt. Kris > -- > From: It's not me[SMTP:rocke...@micron.net] > Sent: Monday, May 25, 1998 3:07 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS and digestive bacteria > > Frank, > > I've had that problem when taking CS orally. I just take a capsule or > two > of Acidophilus (8 Billion count each) daily. I get 120 caps for about > 13.75 > American, so it works out to about 11 to 22 cents per day depending on > how > much I take. I also eat yogurt regularly. > > Vern > > -Original Message- > From: Frank Matzka > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 6:28 PM > Subject: CS and digestive bacteria > > > >There has been some talk of taking oral CS may disrupt the good > bacteria > >we all have in our digestive systems. > > > >Now that I'll be taking CS fairly regularly I figured that to > counteract > >any decline in the good bugs, that I would counteract by eating some > >live yoghurt every day. Also there recently came on the market here > in > >South Australia a product called Yakult which has live Lactobacillus > >casei Shirota strain. I have no idea how good this stuff is but if > you > >believe the brochures it is just the stuff for re establishing a > healthy > >intestinal population. > > > >Any thoughts on the my "theory" ? > > > >Also do we have any expert yoghurt makers out there? This Yakult > stuff > >is about 70c for a small daily dose bottle (30 mls) and if anybody is > >familiar with it or it's making I'd like to try to "cultivate" my > own. > > > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Regards...Frank > > > > > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: URINE PH
I don't know much about melatonin, but I do know that it is outlawed in Canada. Before anyone goes on a tirade about government controlling people's health freedom, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with the Canadian government's position, but they might have gathered some "evidence" that its use is "dangerous." There might be a way to investigate this through the Internet... Kris > -- > From: It's not me[SMTP:rocke...@micron.net] > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 6:25 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: URINE PH > > Cisco, > > What are the bad side effects of prolonged Melatonin use? I have not > seen > any serious negative side effects in any of the current stuff I have > read. > I would like to know because I sell a boat load of this stuff and > would hate > to think that people are hurting themselves. I like to warn people > and let > them decide whether to continue using a product. I would appreciate > any > info that you could provide to me. > > Vern > > -Original Message- > From: Cisco > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 10:06 PM > Subject: Re: URINE PH > > > >Joe and Jim and Listers, > > > >pain is involved. We now use Melatonin even though the prolonged use > has > >bad side effects the short term help is required with several of the > >Maleria strains and the two TB's strains. Pain and loss of sleep > causes > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: cs - little critters going away!
On 7 May 1998 at 7:28 PM, Michael C Slivinski wrote: Hello All, regarding Cisco work with CS, and little critters going away... what a in expensive way to save a village(s). UN should be made aware of this type of info even UNESCO / peace corps / red cross or who ever whatever, thoughts mike slivinski On 7 May 1998 at 9:01 PM, bjs1779 wrote: The UN don't care. They want to run lives, not save them. Don't ya know. Well, I suppose if one wanted to take a complex issue and boil it down to a simplistic level, one could say that "The UN don't care." But, if you wanted to go a little deeper, you'd find out that the UN is made of people just like you and I, who care a lot about saving people's lives. Over the last decade, I have worked as a volunteer advocate for eliminating needless death due to hunger and malnutrition, and UNICEF has been a worthy partner in this effort. This does not mean that I have not had reservations about the way the UN and UNICEF operate. In other words, it's their methods that are flawed, not their commitment to do *good.* I have long thought that mass immunization, which UNICEF endorses and implements worldwide (along with WHO), is the wrong way to fight disease. However, like it or not, that is the conventional orthodox method of the day, and until we can change the *paradigm,* that's the way it's going to stay. I would love to work with anyone interested in figuring out how to penetrate that *paradigm,* but I'm afraid the forces are much too strong presently. The collaboration, say between UNICEF and drug companies (like Merck), is as strong as the amount of money being made from the distribution of the serum. The wall is not impenetrable, merely high...just know that organizations like UNICEF and the UN are not inherently *bad,* just misguided. I am open to any thoughts on this issue... Kris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: Simplify?
Is there CS solution with particle size below 6ppm available
commercially? If so, where?
Kris
> --
> From: It's not me[SMTP:rocke...@micron.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 5:20 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: Simplify?
>
> Mike,
>
> All I have ever used is low ppm solutions (3-5 ppm) of CS and I have
> had
> great luck with it. It seems to me that if the area being treated is
> kept
> moist with the CS solution, it works it's magic. I put some on a cold
> sore
> for about 10 minutes with a q-tip and found it didn't quite knock the
> bugger
> out, so I gave it a second application and today it is scabbed over
> and
> healing. I can't speak for the higher ppm solutions, but I know that
> the
> stuff I make seems to take care of all of the external stuff (cold
> sores,
> diaper rash, viral warts, athletes foot, infections, stings, burns,
> and
> etc.) I haven't messed with the higher ppm stuff just because the
> manufacturer seems to think that anything above 6 ppm tends to clump
> together and then you lose the effectiveness of the small particle
> size.
>
> I see that you are fighting a sinus infection, have you tried using an
> atomizer or fine spray bottle to get the CS up into the nasal
> passages? I
> found a small bottle locally and had some success breathing CS through
> the
> nose during my last sinus infection. I have to say that CS was no
> miracle
> cure for the infection, but I think it slowed the thing down enough
> for my
> body to beat it. Hope you beat the bug soon,
>
> Vern
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. G. Devour
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Thursday, May 07, 1998 5:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Simplify?
>
>
> > M. G. Devour wrote:
>
> > > The question I ask is, why do you need higher ppm? The silver will
> > > get into your body as well from an ounce of 30 ppm as 3 oz of 10
> ppm,
> > > won't it?
>
> Frank wrote:
> >
> > A reason some people might want to take higher ppms is related to
> > the way in which they take their CS.
> >
> > If you are drinking it your point is quite right, but I seem to
> > remember a recent post where someone said that they were taking
> > theirs under the tongue ("sublingually") so that the CS didn't
> > interfere with their intestinal flora.
>
> I'm taking 3 ounces of approx. 12ppm cs twice a day to see if it will
> knock out a sinus infection. I'm taking about half in each mouthful
> and swishing it around in my mouth for a couple of minutes before
> swallowing. (I know some people don't even swallow it.)
>
> The first time I took this dose was Tuesday morning. With all the
> talk here about detox, guess what happens? Within minutes I start to
> come down with a *nasty* sinus headache which basically lasts all
> day. I continue with the planned doseage anyway. Wednesday and today
> I'm feeling better.
>
> So it's working and I'm taking two mouthfuls per dose instead of one.
> So I guess higher ppm would be more convenient. But so far it's
> do-able this way.
>
> I wonder if there's any difference for topical use? Does low vs
> higher ppm matter when used externally? Anyone?
>
> Mike D.
>
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@mail.id.net ]
> [Speaking only for myself... ]
>
>
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Pityriasis Rosea
Hello all Does anyone on this list have any experience with Pityriasis Rosea? According to "Western Medicine," it is likely viral in nature (I'm not sure if that is completely accurate, though). It looks like a skin rash that, on occasion, itches. It lasts about 6-8 weeks, and there is no known orthodox cure other than topical creams and UVB treatment which are more likely to "suppress" rather than "heal." I was recently diagnosed with this "malady." I typically take a maintenance dose of commercial 7ppm Colloidal Silver. I started taking slightly more CS, but it has had little to no effect on the rash. I don't think I can take the itching for 8 weeks. Should I be taking substantially more CS? Are there any other alternative modalities out there that have proven effective against this acute "disease?" Thanks in advance! Kris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
