Re: CS>herpes

[Jim Holmes]

Yes, type 1 and type 2.  Must be taken consistently for months. Part of the
replication cycle takes place within the neural nuclear membrane.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:14 AM, Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> I have everything going to gmail now as none of my old discrete email
> programs would interface well with the new web site and...the "cloud"?  And
> my web host kept going on the blink.
> ...still finding may way around in here.
> JUNO does some pretty strange things too. [My Dad uses it]
>  I may have relied.
>  Try again?
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Sandra George  wrote:
>
>> Honest reply - thanks Ode - I am still awaiting a reply I wrote you on
>> your EIS machine maybe you never got it due to the fact that many email
>> programs put a juno addy into junk mail - check yours to see if any of mine
>> come up if you have not erased your junk !!   Let me know so I can re send
>> if need be !!
>>
>> Attitude is everything
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 7:55 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>>
>> I give CS to everyone I see with 'cold sores'.  So far, 100% say it's the
>> best thing they ever tried and outbreaks become so rare they consider
>> themselves cured, if not *actually cured*
>>  I don't think the silver can get into the nerves where herpes hides out,
>> but it's apparently easy to kill with silver when it enters the blood
>> stream.
>> I've **heard** that as little as a tablespoon a day, every day, achieves
>> control of H1 and H2maybe 'eventually' a cure
>>
>> Ode
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Lynn  wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone cured herpes type 1/ and/ or type 2 with silver? Thanks
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> *Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> *From: *Ode Coyote 
>>> *Subject: **Re: CS>AC voltage*
>>> *Date: *March 4, 2015 at 3:12:44 AM PST
>>> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> *Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
>>>
>>> 25 volts at 50/60 HZ does not impart enough velocity to the ions to get
>>> them far enough away from the electrodes to not be sucked back on when the
>>> polarity changes.
>>> To use that "SWAP" frequency requires around 1000 volts.
>>> Minimum at 25 volts would be around 1 minute between polarity shifts and
>>> that will be very slow as it takes around 20 seconds out of a cycle for the
>>> electrochemistry to unwind and reverse.
>>>  3 minutes goes at about the same rate as DC
>>> Anything over a few seconds is very difficult using analog timing
>>> circuits, longer is harder and less reliable/accurate.
>>> That why I finally went digital.  A computer can count infinite
>>> milliseconds effortlessly and get it right every time with a 5 minute
>>> interval.
>>> Ode
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Reece Maxey  wrote:
>>>
 Has anyone used a low, ie 25 volts, AC power source for a CS generator?
 Any ideas about posslble success if using? Seems to me it would compare
 with the swapping DC method. Thanks.
 Opa

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Re: CS>Highly ionic CS.

[Jim Holmes]

According to Brooks, 3 to 5 PPM/mg/l is highly effective.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Kirsteen Wright <
kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I know what you mean.  I'm in the UK and hummed and hawed for ages before
> ordering the Silver Puppy.  I'm absolutely delighted with it and the
> service I got and just wished I'd ordered it sooner.
>
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
> On 19 Feb 2015 19:02, "V"  wrote:
>
>> Yes, that is exactly what I intend to do next! : )
>> I had been looking at different models and have heard
>> much on the silver puppy. Being in Canada I wanted to be
>> extra careful what I buy for parts/service/shipping costs etc.
>> I do however want to learn more about the subject either way.
>> So many things that pull at your time and attention so still have
>> not acted on ordering something yet! : )
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Dee  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi V I know this sounds obvious, but if you are not tekky minded as you
>>> say, wouldn't it be easier to buy a SilverPuppy or similar, where it is all
>>> done for you and swaps current and stirs itself?  Just a thought, but maybe
>>> an easier option? Dee
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 19 Feb 2015, at 15:06, V  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am interested in what you are doing and how but I am so not gifted in
>>> technical aspects of this product. I have a beautiful little set up but it
>>> is simple. I don't have a stir option and I have to stir and wipe the rods
>>> every ten minutes. I leave it for about four hours (Sota brand) and have it
>>> in at first a quart and now use a two quart jar. I have not bought anything
>>> to check the solution but have had mostly clear results and can taste/feel
>>> the silver in it. I have been happy so far with it but the rods are small
>>> and I had heard of people using silver coins. I bought two silver Maple
>>> leaf coins and tried to set them up to use off of the connections on my
>>> current machine. Sadly it just doesn't seem to work well. The alligator
>>> clips have to be large enough to hold the coins and once they are you are
>>> left with such a small amount of the coin in the water that it is very
>>> slow. Perhaps this is better then if it is still working but slow? Is there
>>> anyone who has used coins? Any suggestions would be most welcome and I am
>>> following all discussions but with my lack of wider experience have minimal
>>> input at this point. Thank you to all members. We need everyone as I know
>>> that I can't be the only one still learning and just not commenting much
>>> yet. Thanks! Val
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Debra & David 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi David:
 Did you run the batch with a meter in-line to verify the stability of
 the current?
 ~Jason

 I'm using a Silverpuppy/Silverwell. Current controlled to 1mA, give or
 take a few microamps. (I have a meter running in line with a batch right
 now. Says .969 mA. Close enough I'd say.

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Re: CS>Adding minerals to DW.

[Jim Holmes]

If it were true, then one would have to exactingly measure ones salt,
calcium, potassium, sugar and other electrolytes intake.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Ron  wrote:

> PT wrote:
> Distilled water isn't healthy to drink unless you add minerals back into
> it.
> PT
> ===
>
>
> Been hearing that every so often for at least twenty years.
> Nobody has ever come up with a study of any kind that supports it.
> Surprise me.
> It is physically impossible for DW to leach (that is the usual assertion)
> organic minerals from the body cells.
> Inorganic - yes - and that is great.
>
> Nothing wrong with taking trace minerals, for sure, but I like my DW pure.
>
> Ron
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Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>RE: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>

[Jim Holmes]

Re: your Message Re: redundant Re:s,

I think you are correct.

Jim

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Re: CS>Two studies shows risk with nanosilver

[Jim Holmes]

In a word, the studies are deliberate *bullshit. *

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 7:38 PM, John Popelish  wrote:
>
> On 12/17/2014 09:10 PM, Phil Morrison wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I read both studies.
>>
>> How in the world does one measure inflammation and
>> oxidative stress in artificial tissue?   Where are the amino
>> acids, minerals, proteins, enzymes, and oxidation cell
>> regulators, etc that a real body rallies to fight
>> inflammation?
>>
>> The use of silver nitrate in this study contaminates the
>> whole field. Â  One is reminded that CS should be used
>> in babies' eyes, not caustic silver nitrate.
>>
>> And the implication that CS might be involved in
>> Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, or ALS is better left unmentioned,
>> since we know these diseases are caused by aluminum
>> plus mineral deficiencies. Â
>>
>
> Actually, I think they gave colloidal silver a break, in
> these tests, because they used silver nitrate as the control
> (same silver content, in ionic form) to compare with the
> trials of nano particles. Why they didn't use a silver free
> control, I don't understand.
>
> Did I read this wrong?
>
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Re: CS>Two studies shows risk with nanosilver for eye and brain

[Jim Holmes]

I am reminded of the studies where concentrated LSD was placed on human
cell cultures, and they were damaged.  This in vitro sutdyt has nothing to
do with what happens in vivio.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Neville  wrote:
>
> Of course you can Dee, that paper does not refer to anything remotely
> similar to what we make and use.
>
> As with all..."studies?"... none relate to LVDC and pure DW, besides which
> they are all designed to give results according to what results they want
> to get, and based on who provides the funding to achieve that end.
>
> The old "N/A" would be apropos here.
>
> N.
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> From: d...@deetroy.org
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:34:17 +
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> You can use CS in the eyes, I always have...Dee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 17 Dec 2014, at 18:20, Tam Gray  wrote:
>
> Andre, I simply don't understand the Conclusion of these studies.
> I'm not trying to argue.  I genuinely want to know what it is that I need
> to be concerned about.
> Can you please advise?
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:56 PM, André Juthe 
> wrote:
>
> Gary, that's like arguing: I have smoked all my life without cancer, no
> problem . . .
>
> 2014-12-17 18:43 GMT+01:00 Gary Hilt :
>
> II USE SILVER IM MY DRY EYES ALL THE TIME NO PROBLEM
>
>
>

Re: CS>Canine distemper

[Jim Holmes]

That technique will be appreciated by the world order.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Sandra George  wrote:

> Thanks Tara - agreed with all stated from my personal experience - I fall
> asleep from time to time to my own detriment 
> Cheers
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is everything !!!
> Sandra George
> Colloidal Silver Products
> Eye Drops & Topical Gel
> aliveagai...@yahoo.com
>
>
>
> On 23 Oct 2014, at 13:49, 123 456  wrote:
>
> Hi Senderyes I have read the references in the good book as well
> as everywhere.
> I am subscribed to the ormus groups in addition to this one here. One
> of the many things they have explored is the
> alchemical/healing/magical/hidden properties if things like the aloe
> plant amount others. The geometry of the leaves seem to have certain
> attractive properties to accumulate the etheric or cosmic or 'sacred'
> energy that some call God consciousness. Very intense healing is
> accumulated. The people over on the white gold newsgroup are all
> alchemists of one variety or another as well as a very eclectic
> collection of highly spiritual beings.
> Thanks
> Tara
>
> On 10/23/14, Sandra George  wrote:
> > Hi Tara - the healing properties of aloe vera can fill a book case - it
> is
> > referred to umpteen times in any copy or version of any bible you may
> choose
> > to read - it is the God given basic salvation for our bodies.   I used
> to be
> > called Lady Aloe Vera - until, I, like other humans with no sense, fell
> > asleep and forgot how good it is
> > for humans and animals    This Chickenguyna woke me up again thank
> God,
> > so I am now back on the aloe vera trip !
> > You will enjoy the reading as it is all out there - have fun
> > Sandee🐬
> > Attitude is everything !!!
> > Sandra George
> > Colloidal Silver Products
> > Eye Drops & Topical Gel
> > aliveagai...@yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23 Oct 2014, at 13:15, 123 456  wrote:
> >
> > Aloe vera?
> > Please tell us more.
> > Tara
> >
> > On 10/23/14, Sandra George  wrote:
> >> Hi There TJ - unfortunately the EIS will not work with the distemper
> virus
> >> -
> >> due to the fact it attacks the nervous system in particular the brain
> >> pretty
> >> quickly - I once had a dog of my own which developed distemper and I
> >> literally shoved as much aloe vera as I could down it’s throat and saved
> >> it
> >> - this was not a
> >> nice event, however I did save the dog - on a large scale situation like
> >> a
> >> kennel or shelter it would literally be lethal because of the rapidity
> of
> >> spread.   So sad as it appears for them to have destroyed all the dogs
> >> this
> >> was probably the best method of containment - the EIS works for the
> >> parvovirus along with other additions however this virus is less
> virulent
> >> than distemper 
> >> Cheers
> >> Sandee🐬
> >> Attitude is everything !!!
> >> Sandra George
> >> Colloidal Silver Products
> >> Eye Drops & Topical Gel
> >> aliveagai...@yahoo.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23 Oct 2014, at 11:46, TJ Garland  wrote:
> >>
> >> The local animal shelter just destroyed all their dogs. My business
> >> property
> >> is adjacent to it.
> >> Anyone have any experience withe CS against distemper?
> >>
> >> “Without local enforcement, by compliant local authorities, the will of
> >> the
> >> central government is not much more than hot air.”
> >> -Hans-Hermann Hoppe
> >>
> >>
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Re: CS>Governments seize CS / Can CS kill viruses as well as it kills bacteria?

[Jim Holmes]

Do you have a citation supporting your assertion that CS kills all Virons?

Thanks,

Jim

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Da Darrin  wrote:

>   Victor:
> Although I agree with most of what you said, Lyme is a spiroqete which is
> a bacteria with a corkscrew shape much like that of the syphilis bacteria.
> It mines the myalin sheath from the nerves and encases itself to hide from
> the immune system or any other thing, like silver, from harming it.
>   Dave
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Victor Cozzetto  > wrote:
>
>> Yea, I was really disgusted by the 'Natural Solutions Foundation'
>> offensive videos. There 'special' CS is no better than our home brews.
>>
>> I'm not the leading exert or anything but, about viruses, yes, the CS
>> will kill all pathogens that it comes in contact with. Some are more
>> difficult to kill than others, but there is no known pathogen that can
>> survive CS. Contact is key, and many viruses can hide in other parts of the
>> body that CS cannot reach. Lyme and Herpes are good examples of viruses
>> that can be kept in check by CS, but maybe never completely eradicated.
>> (Although, with CS taking burden off of your immune system, your immune
>> system can sometimes eradicate 'incurables' on its own. Cancer is a good
>> example of that.
>>
>> In my opinion, the best solution for any problem or pathogen beyond the
>> reach of CS is the Beck Protocol. It uses a a zapping tool (Magnetic
>> pulser) to drive all pathogens into the blood stream, where CS can kill
>> them. Another zapping tool is used for blood electrification, which is even
>> more effective than CS at killing pathogens. CS and Ozonated water are part
>> of the protocol, along with the two tools. I cannot say enough good things
>> about those tools.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:
>>
>>>This is a two part post. Part 1, I have information; Part 2, I have
>>> a question.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Part 1 (Information). I will say this only once about the Natural
>>> Solutions Foundation. I have had some dealings with the doctor who is the
>>> head of the foundation, as well as her husband, who used to work for
>>> military intelligence. I won’t go into personal details, but there is other
>>> info. Please read these carefully:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngeneral.html
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://educate-yourself.org/lte/actionabledisinformation23dec08.shtml
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Note that Laibow is attempting to sell HER brand of silver, which she’s
>>> touting as the only silver capable of destroying the Ebola virus.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Part 2 (Question). I use colloidal silver a lot, but am not sure that
>>> it’s capable of killing viruses, which get inside the body’s cells. Can
>>> anyone comment on this?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Nenah
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: CS> Clinical Trials Fertilizer

[Jim Holmes]

Everything the government does and says is a lie.


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
>
>
> "Report finds drug industry funded studies almost always yield good
> results."
>
> A recent study published in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine has
> revealed that industry-funded clinical trials -- that is drug trials funded
> by pharmaceutical companies -- almost always show positive results for the
> drugs they test.
>
> By contrast, only about half of government-funded studies show the same
> drug to be safe and effective.
>

Re: CS> Clinical Trials

[Jim Holmes]

Those trials were in vitro; they were not clinical trials.

http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2012/07/ucla-medical-test-on-colloidal-silver-water-2444096.html

That link does not mention Ebola. Do you have a cite for that?

Also, what is your reference for "CS people are virus free"?

Thank you...Jim


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
> To:   alchemysa
>
> There have been tons of clinical trials proving CS nanoparticle efficacy
> against all pathogens, without exception, including Ebola.
>
> Also, as you will read below, silver is an essential element in bodily
> function.
>
> Many cancers are caused by viruses.   CS people are virus free.
>
> Who knew  :)
>
>
>
> http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2012/07/ucla-medical-test-on-colloidal-silver-water-2444096.html
>

Re: CS>Every kind of silver kills bacteria.

[Jim Holmes]

Yes.  Putting it on a lesion may help it heal faster.  Part of the virons's
life cycle is in the nucleus of the neurons. The silver gets it there. It
make take months to do it. A sip, held in the mouth until you forget.


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Ron  wrote:

>  As for point .2:
> As far as I know there is not one single scientific study that shows that
> vaccinations are effective.
> Lots of *evidence* though that they are *defective.*
>
> I'll go with CS.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> On 8/10/2014 2:22 AM, alchemysa wrote:
>
> You'll probably be hearing lots about nanosilver and ebola in the next few
> weeks. All sorts of quacksters will be jumping on the bandwagon claiming
> that only 'their' colloidal silver is full of the right kind of
> 'nanoparticles' or 'micro-particles'.
>
> Heres a few facts to think about...
>
> 1. All home made colloidal silver contains nanoparticles.
>
> 2. Theres not a SINGLE clinical (human) trial that proves nanosilver does
> a damn thing to ebola or anything else. In fact there have been no clinical
> trials that prove that ANY KIND of colloidal silver does a damn thing.  And
> theres certainly no evidence that '10 ppm' is some kind of perfect
> strength.
>
> 3. All types of silver HAVE been proven to kill bacteria in lab tests.
> (e.g in test tubes). Silver ions, particles, compounds, silver nitrates,
> etc have all worked. (For all we know colloidal silver made from old
> jewellery in dishwater may be the most effective colloidal silver of all).
>
> 4. You can make and drink your own colloidal silver at home knowing that
> no silver product made anywhere, by anyone, by any method. has any credible
> evidence to prove it is more effective than yours!!
>
> David
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Re: CS>Every kind of silver kills bacteria.

[Jim Holmes]

I do not have a citation handy, but very small particles, in the 1/2 to 10
Nm range will pass through the nuclear membrane and kill organisms therein,
and larger ones will not.

Clinical trials, no. Compelling anecdotal evidence, yes.  A Dr. Torres, who
used to frequent these halls said that in Mexico they were curing Malaria
with Ag, for the then cost of $18 US.  I communicated with a man with Aids
on the web for many months.  He called himself, "The Silver Surfer".  His
count went from quite high to "not detectable".  Dr. Bruce Marx, who makes
silver generators, claims to have cured several cases of Hepatitis C.
In my 30s I had a severe case of A or B.  For years thereafter, my liver
hurt, and I had a faint yellow tinge to my skin.  I began taking Ag and
after several months, the pain went away and so did the color.

I have personally observed several cases of Herpes, type I cured, including
myself.  That is not supposed to be possible.

One friend, who was having severe gum problems; all his teeth were
loose...and who was highly suspicious of an alleged "heavy metal" (it is
not) was convinced to hold it in his mouth for several minutes, and then
spit it out.

I did not tell him that buccal absorption into the blood stream is 4 to 10
times that of the stomach, and that the silver was not affected by the
gastric acid.  Not only did he save his teeth, but his type II Herpes was
cured.

A woman I knew had what the white coats called "Walking Pneumonia" for
several weeks.  A couple of days of nebulizing a 10 ppm sol with O2, and
the doctor said, " I don't know what happened, but your lungs are suddenly
clear".

One of the great features of silver is; It can do no harm, and probably
will help if there is a pathogen involved in the condition.


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Victor Cozzetto 
wrote:

> Whoa, I agree with your general gist that basically all silver is good,
> and even think it agrees with my earlier post that 'nano' is used mostly as
> marketing hype.  I agree with you on  1 & 2, but your points 2 & 3 scare me
> a bit:
>
>  - Never use jewelry or sterling silver of any kind, as you could end up
> with nickel poisoning. You always want the purest silver available when
> making CS, to avoid any unwanted contaminants.
>
>  -  There is endless documentation that shows colloidal silver is
> effective, as it was even used by the pharmaceutical companies a hundred
> years ago. And there are thousands of years of history showing silver being
> effective. In my opinion, mentioning published, 'official' clinical trials
> or trying to differentiate CS from nanosilver only adds confusion. (And as
> you said, CS has nanosilver).
>
> I was just worried that some people might get the wrong idea about your
> comments. I agree with the intend of your message completely.
>
> Victor
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:22 PM, alchemysa  wrote:
>
>> You'll probably be hearing lots about nanosilver and ebola in the next
>> few weeks. All sorts of quacksters will be jumping on the bandwagon
>> claiming that only 'their' colloidal silver is full of the right kind of
>> 'nanoparticles' or 'micro-particles'.
>>
>> Heres a few facts to think about...
>>
>> 1. All home made colloidal silver contains nanoparticles.
>>
>> 2. Theres not a SINGLE clinical (human) trial that proves nanosilver does
>> a damn thing to ebola or anything else. In fact there have been no clinical
>> trials that prove that ANY KIND of colloidal silver does a damn thing.  And
>> theres certainly no evidence that '10 ppm' is some kind of perfect strength.
>>
>> 3. All types of silver HAVE been proven to kill bacteria in lab tests.
>> (e.g in test tubes). Silver ions, particles, compounds, silver nitrates,
>> etc have all worked. (For all we know colloidal silver made from old
>> jewellery in dishwater may be the most effective colloidal silver of all).
>>
>> 4. You can make and drink your own colloidal silver at home knowing that
>> no silver product made anywhere, by anyone, by any method. has any credible
>> evidence to prove it is more effective than yours!!
>>
>> David
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Re: CS > Altman Report

[Jim Holmes]

This is where that line came from...not from me.


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
> Response:
>
> mgperrault ... CS particles go wherever Oxygen is needed.
>
> Abnormal cells are deficient in oxygen, and so attract
> CS nanoparticles like a magnet.
>

Re: CS>RE: CS > Altman Report

[Jim Holmes]

i do not know what I was thinking when I wrote that. I meant to write that
the body concentrates Ag and pathogens in the same place.

I must have been stoned.


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Marshall  wrote:

> Well, gram negative bacteria have a negative charge, and a silver ion has
> a positive charge, so it does make sense there would be an electrostatic
> attractive force between them.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 8/8/2014 1:07 AM, mgperrault wrote:
>
>> On 8/7/2014 7:59 PM, Phil Morrison wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Jim Holmes - there is always a concentration of pathogens on the
>>> reticuloendothelium of the lymph nodes, liver, and spleen.  It is
>>> natural for silver nanoparticles to congregate in these areas.
>>>
>>> Pathogens draw CS particles like a magnet.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>  I have it that silver collects in other interstitial spaces as well.
>>
>> Do you have something on pathogens drawing CS like a magnet?  Do you know
>> what the motive force is?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: CS> Altman Report

[Jim Holmes]

Other studies I have seen but cannot cite at the momentmany hard drives
backnoted that the silver accumulates in the reticuloendothelium of the
lymph nodes, where there is already a concentration of pathogens.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
>
> Altman came up with a good report IMHO.   Timely too.
>
> Given the limits on staff and the technologies then available, Altman's
> one-off report borders on little short of amazing.   Altman got the
> numbers right, and by so doing, broke through the foggy
> notions, then existing, on CS toxicity, bio-accumulation, and dosage;
> and, thereby established a solid foundation for the future growth of CS.
> Some of his assumptions were wrong, but his tables were flat right.
>
> We now know that the body flushes out ionic silver as soon as possible,
> and uses the silver nanoparticles to battle the pathogens in our
> bodies.  Long
> story short, excess CS exits via the urine, while beat-up nanoparticles
> exit the body via liver, bile, feces route.   Hence, the need for regular
> replacement.
>
> Hat tip to Roger Altman.
>

Re: CS>EBOLA - warning on Vit C

[Jim Holmes]

The above is total bullshit.  Vitamin C is necessary for vascular health.
See the work of Linus Pauling.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:17 AM, polo  wrote:

> I guess using that logic, then scurvy could not be treated with Vitamin C
> as scurvy has significant hemorrhagic issues with capillary destruction.
> Eh?  Be careful what you read.
>
>
>
> doug
>
>
>
> *From:* Melly Bag [mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 4, 2014 9:54 AM
> *To:* crock_lakhov...@yahoogroups.com; Silver-list
> *Subject:* CS>EBOLA - warning on Vit C
>
>
>
> Here is a part of a post from another yahoogroup.  I did not print the
> source as i do not have permission from him.  I put it here as a precaution
> to the Ebola remedy i posted the other day.
>
>
>
> Melly
> =
>
> "To help clarify, there is a misunderstanding regarding "Vitamin C" and
> treating hemorrhagic issues.
>
> Microbleeds in the brain should not be treated with ascorbic acid or
> similar Vitamin C derivatives.  Not only does it "NOT" strengthen
> capillaries and veins but may in fact weaken them through depleting
> copper.  Copper helps to strengthen capillaries and veins.
>
> The Vitamin C bioflavanoid Rutin is what strengthens the capillaries and
> veins preventing hemorrhages and microbleeds.  One will get small amounts
> of rutin when eating "foods" that contain Vitamin C however.
>
> This is a very important distinction as one would not want to take large
> doses of ascorbic acid or similar thinking one will prevent a hemorrhage or
> microbleeds. "
>
>
>

Re: CS>RE: Altman Study.

[Jim Holmes]

PPM is the same as Mg/L.

Altman was aware that his study, having a population of one, was not a
formal study.  The goal was to determine if silver is retained or excreted.
It was determined to be excreted in sweat, urine, and feces.


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Ron  wrote:

>  Damnifthatain'tso.
>
>  Now that helps.
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 8/1/2014 12:58 PM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> milligram/liter [mg/L]
> 
> :
>
> milligrams per liter [mg/L] is the same as PPM
>
> Ode
>
>
> On 8/1/2014 2:38 PM, John Popelish wrote:
>
> On 08/01/2014 02:02 PM, Ron wrote:
>
> Well I think of CS as a liquid of PPM . How does  one get to
> weight of silver? I can understand weight of silver coming
> out but If he is using liquid CS going in how does he get
> milligrams of silver???
>
> Ron
>
>
> That is a question that is not answered in his paper.
>
>
>
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Re: CS> Who Knew :)

[Jim Holmes]

Ancient.


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
>
> http://healthydebates.com/colloidal-silver-separating-fact-myth/
>

Re: CS>CS > Chemistry

[Jim Holmes]

You may find the work of Bob Lee, that may be found in the archives, to be
of great interest.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
> In the following find basic chemical equations for CS production.
>
>
> 1) 3 Ag   +   2H2O   +   e   >   2 AgOH   +   H2   +   Ag
>
> 2)  2 AgOH    >   Ag2 O   +   H2O
>
>
>
> In equation 1)
>
> silver wire  +  water +  battery > silver hydroxide  +  hydrogen  +
> colloidal
>   
>   bubbles
> silver
>
>
> In equation  2)Silver hydroxide >   silver oxide  +  water
>  brown ppt.
>
>
>
> PLM/chemist
>
>
>

CS>Nebulized in oxygen silver and dmso for TB

[Jim Holmes]

Does anyone have any references or experiences?

Jim

Re: CS> Major Endorsement

[Jim Holmes]

I do not recall where I found the regulation about silver and dairy banrs.
It was definitely FDA.  The apparent intent is to prevent using the sol to
treat mastitis, for which it works excellently.

The federal government is the control and enforcement agency of the
international banks.  The United States is a foreign-owned private
for-profit corporation, just as the Federal Reserve.


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:12 AM, 123 456  wrote:

> On 6/8/14, Sandra George  wrote:
> > Hi There Ode - And duality rules the planet !I so love your way
> of
> > expressing yourself very apt 
> > Enough kudos your head may end up too big for your hat 
> > Warmest regards
> > Sandee🐬
> > Attitude is everything !!!
> > Sandra George
> > Colloidal Silver Products
> > Eye Drops & Topical Gel
> > aliveagai...@yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 Jun 2014, at 07:49, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >   I find it amazing that people claiming their freedom, so often tie
> their
> > activities to getting permission from the very people they say are
> > controlling them.
> >
> > Freedom = a longer leash ?
> >
> > Exlaxia Excremetia
> > [If ya gots the runs, take another laxativesooner or later, you'll
> run
> > out... problem solved. ]
> > or
> > "If it has never worked, do it harder. preferably to someone else"
>  [ I
> > gots the runs, but it's your s**t ? ]
> >
> > Blame [ I'm trying to control you into controlling me MY way ? ] and
> > personal responsibility [your independent point of power] are polar
> > opposites.
> >
> > Ode
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:41 AM 6/7/2014 -0400, you wrote:
> >> Hi there Ode thought you would be quick on the draw with this one - CMA
> is
> >> the bottom line which is why I feel privileged to have learned how to
> make
> >> my own for me and those I care for - this one says all the positive and
> >> negatives we have all discussed here over the years - so as far as I am
> >> concerned if I never sell another ounce of my CS I know how to take care
> >> of me - you and others here have my sincere  gratitude and thanks for
> all
> >> guidance over the years
> >> Take good care of you
> >> Warmest regards
> >> Sandee🠬
> >> Attitude is everything
> >> Alive Again Colloidal Silver
> >> Eye drops & Topical Gel
> >> aliveagai...@yahoo.com
> >>
> >> On Jun 7, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Ode Coyote 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anti-establisment propaganda.
> >> Before it's news, before it's fact checked.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lyme disease, for example, wasn't formally recognized until the 1970s
> even
> >> though it affects thousands of people each year. In 2009, there were
> >> 30,000 confirmed cases of Lyme disease in the United States, according
> to
> >> the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Humans acquire the
> disease
> >> when bitten by ticks that carry Borrelia bacteria. But because it has
> >> symptoms that overlap with many other disorders including rash, aches,
> >> fatigue and fever Lyme disease is often misdiagnosed.
> >>
> >> The oldest documented case of Lyme disease in humans comes from the
> famous
> >> 5,300-year-old ice mummy dubbed Ötzi, discovered in the Eastern Alps
> >> about 20 years ago. In a 2012 study detailed in the journal Nature
> >> Communications, scientists said they found genetic material for the
> >> Borrelia bacteria in the iceman.
> >>
> >> "Before he was frozen in the glacier, the iceman was probably already in
> >> misery from Lyme disease," Poinar said. "He had a lot of health problems
> >> and was really a mess."
> >> 
> >>
> >>  I've found no evidence that the FDA has ever banned the use of silver.
> >> They merely say "Not proven safe and effective"  [also not DIS proven ]
> >> therefore cannot be promoted or labeled as a treatment for a disease. [
> >> IOW doesn't meet their definition of "drug" and in the same context,
> isn't
> >> regulated as such ]
> >> . you can use it any way you want under your OWN definitions.
> [without
> >> " permission " ], but if you define it as per THEIR definitions, they
> will
> >> jump on you...not for the Silver, but for usurping their power of
> >> definitions.
> >>
> >> If it works, the FDA is completely irrelevant.
> >> If it doesn't, ya can't sue anyone.
> >>
> >> All asses covered.
> >>
> >> which is the whole point of not 'approving' [without DIS approving]
> >>
> >> ie:  "We don't know, no one is paying us to find out and we see no
> >> significant reason to find out on our own.. *as you will*, kiddies, if
> you
> >> ask us, we'll just say no to cover our asses...so don't ask. "
> >>
> >> Isn't all this like depending on mainstream science to prove God while
> >> asking them if you can go to church?
> >> No one has outlawed Faith Healing...only the claims made.
> >>
> >> Ode
> >>
> >> At 09:59 PM 6/6/2014 -0400, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2014/06/everything-about-colloidal-silver-2525710.html
> >>
> >>
> >> <96913ee.jpg>
> >>
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Re: CS> Major Endorsement

[Jim Holmes]

" I've found no evidence that the FDA has ever banned the use of silver"

It is not permitted within 200 feet of a dairy barn.


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Diana Clock  wrote:

> We use silver for everything
> Started it because of lyme...
> Now we use it on sunburns, acne, sore throats
> Our LLMD mentions it (cannot endorse it of course) with his protocol for
> lyme
> My house will not be without it!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Sandra George  wrote:
>
> This article is a true gift thank you very much for making it available
> Phil
> Warm regards
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is everything
> Alive Again Colloidal Silver
> Eye drops & Topical Gel
> aliveagai...@yahoo.com
>
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Phil Morrison 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2014/06/everything-about-colloidal-silver-2525710.html
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

[Jim Holmes]

Is possible they depend upon specific intestinal flora.  I would not give
it to them without conclusively ruling that out.
Most molds it kills.  I would like to hear from people who know of lab
molds that are immune to CS. Yeasts and fungi too.

Jim Holmes


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Walter Anderson <
walter.ander...@outlook.com> wrote:

> A quick Google didn’t turn anything up so I thought I’d ask the list:
>
> Do you have any experience or other knowledge to indicate whether CS would
> be helpful/harmful/neutral do hummingbirds? The reason I ask is mould can
> be a problem in hummingbird feeders and I was thinking CS might help stop
> that (not sure on this either, just thought it might inhibit mould
> too—please correct me if I’ve missed the boat). I’m not sure what kind of
> digestive system hummingbirds have (their diet is nectar and insects) and
> whether CS would be compatible with their needs or not. All feedback/ideas
> are welcome. - Walter
>

Re: CS>The evidence for Silver/Antibiotic 'interference'. Theres probably none.

[Jim Holmes]

Several years ago on this list was published a reference from the
University of Nigeria.  They studied this very issue and found no
conflict.  I will look for the article.


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis <
concept.of.dr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> NOT factually the case.  The MRSA studies we listed in our book show that
> CS does assist traditional antibiotics, also works great on it's own.
>
> Here's a small booklet on MRSA at this link:
> http://kiwi6.com/file/4s0d4fa55g
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Neville  wrote:
>
>> Sounds like 'secret squirrel' business to me, it also indicates how much
>> information they *haven't* published.  Just a headline grabber...EXTRA,
>> EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT...LOL.
>>
>> They say 'interfere' whereas I would say it 'override' rendering the
>> antibiotic redundant, but then I guess that's actually what they were
>> testing for but forgot to mention that.
>>
>> That's like our TGA telling me that their information comes from the
>> internet - WHAT THE...???  That's a reliable source to repeat to the public
>> I'm sure, especially when they failed to answer my questions regarding the
>> "predominantly ionic silver solution" as produced using LVDC electrolysis.
>>  As with most 'authorities?' or 'studies?' it's a bit of a giveaway and
>> just shows how much they *don't* know!
>>
>> N.
>>
>> > From: da...@alchemysa.com.au
>> > Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 19:56:39 +0930
>> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> > Subject: CS>The evidence for Silver/Antibiotic 'interference'. Theres
>> probably none.
>>
>> >
>> > You may have read on the NCCAM website or on Wikipedia that ''silver
>> > may interfere with the absorption of some antibiotics (thereby
>> > reducing their effectiveness.).
>> >
>> > http://nccam.nih.gov/health/silver
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver
>> >
>> > This claim has intrigued me for some time so I have tried to follow
>> > it up. Googling produced no answers. Neither did searching the PubMed
>> > website. So I emailed the NCCAM and requested a reference for the
>> > claim. They emailed back and said it comes from the this FDA safety
>> > alert...
>> >
>> > http://www.fda.gov/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/
>> > SafetyAlertsAdvisories/ucm184087.htm
>> >
>> > The FDA Safety Alert contains no reference for the claim either, so I
>> > next emailed the FDA and asked them for a reference.
>> >
>> > Their response was "Please contact the FOI staff at (301) 796-3900 to
>> > determine whether the records you are seeking are maintained in the
>> > Public Reading Room, Electronic Reading Room, or if the information
>> > requires the submission of a FOI request."
>> >
>> > Thats as far as I have gotten so far but interestingly Steve Barwick
>> > has pursued the same enquiry with the same response. He claims to
>> > have filed an FOI request and is awaiting an answer.
>> >
>> > Regardless, it seems remarkably hard to a find refererence for this
>> > quite extraodinary and oft repeated claim.
>> >
>> > Normally I wouldnt trust a word that Stave Barwick writes but in this
>> > case he produces what I think is quite a reasonable and informative
>> > article that corresponds closely with my own experience. You may find
>> > it interesting...
>> >
>> > http://www.thesilveredge.com/does-colloidal-silver-really-interfere-
>> > with-the-absorption-of-certain-medications.shtml
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > David
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: CS> Silver Deficiency

[Jim Holmes]

I see nothing in the reference you gave addressing "silver deficiency"  It
is an older article about silver and its benefits against pathogens, not as
it being an essential mineral.


On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jason  wrote:

> Hi Phil:
>
> I googled aliens abducted Miley Cirus and got over 100,000 hits, and that
> means nothing.
>
> In order for silver to be effective, it needs to be present in about 3 PPM
> or above.
>
> The average person now consumes about 90 micrograms of silver found in
> foods.
>
> In good soil, silver exists at about 0.3 PPM.  Supplementation of silver
> to account for poor farming practices would be under five drops of EIS a
> day.
>
> Dr. Becker was strongly against supplementation with colloidal silver, or
> any silver.
>
> Dr. Becker would have had no way to make a correlation between low silver
> levels and sickness.  I understand that he shared this opinion (I have all
> of his books and some of his papers, somewhere).  His research populations
> were not very large, and he didn't have the expertise to study mineral
> deficiencies... not to mention that he started studying silver applications
> fairly late in his career.
>
> Now, if Becker would have published his research on how he determined his
> opinion, that I would love to see.  As far as I know, I'm one of the few
> people who has actually experimented with silver iontophoresis, which he
> literally invented.
>
> My only point is that silver is not an essential mineral, and restoring
> normal silver levels in the body does nothing to combat illness.
>
> I've been making and using silver for many, many years; I'm certainly not
> stating anything against silver.
>
> In fact, most government regulatory agencies are now concerned and worried
> about OVER exposure of the population to various forms of silver, due to
> silver's predominate use in all sorts of industries since the industrial
> age.
>
> ~Jason
>
>
> On 3/15/2014 11:38 AM, Phil Morrison wrote:
>
>>
>> Jason, I googled "sickness silver deficiency" and got 33,000,000 hits.
>>
>> I chose to reference the site noted in my previous message for the
>> significant statements of Dr. Robert O. Becker below:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dr. Robert O. Becker, author of The Body Electric, recognized a
>> correlation between low silver levels and sickness. He said silver
>> deficiency was responsible for the improper functioning of the immune
>> system. Dr. Becker's experiments conclude that silver works on the full
>> spectrum of pathogens without any side effects or damage to the body."
>>
>> "He also states that silver does more than kill disease-causing
>> organisms. It also causes major growth stimulation of injured tissues.
>> Burn patients and even elderly patients notice more rapid healing. And
>> he discovered that all cancer cells could change back to normal cells.
>> All strains of pathogens resistant to other antibiotics are killed by
>> silver."
>>
>
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Re: CS> Silver Deficiency

[Jim Holmes]

Do you have a reference?


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Phil Morrison wrote:

>
>
> Studies find a strong correlation connecting sickness with silver
> deficiency.
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Research into nano silver shows it's harmful to humans

[Jim Holmes]

"Because of the possibility of human exposure to nanoparticles, there is an
urgent need to investigate the molecular mechanisms underlying the cellular
responses

* that might be triggered."*
More pharmacrook scare crap.


On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Karl Becker  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Came across this article about research showing nano silver particles
> being harmful to human cells.
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140227115424.htm
>
> Interested to see what others have to say about this research report.
>
> Cheers Karl.
>

Re: CS>ion-exchange compound?

[Jim Holmes]

Aluminum?  How much is absorbed into the skin, and where does it go, and
what does it do?


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Neville  wrote:

> Ah, so it is basically nothing more complicated than that really?
>
> It's simply the wound moisture acting as the electrolyte which breaks
> apart those ion clusters {particles} initiating the release of Ag+ ions
> again...Yes/No?
>
> Similar if the product is ingested, only this time the internal body
> fluids or moisture act as the electrolyte which results in the same
>  breaking down of those 'particles' thus releasing the Ag+ ions...Yes/No?
>
> And *that* is what they refer to as the 'compound' part, simply the blood
> or body fluids creating a compound due to the 'electrolytic' aspect as that
> electrolyte interacts and initiates or releases those Ag+ ions from the
> particle structure...Yes/No?
>
> N.
>
>
>
> --
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:53:46 -0500
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> From: odecoy...@silverpuppy.com
> Subject: Re: CS>ion-exchange compound?
>
>
>
>
>   One ion exchange method [vs compound] is used by bandaids brands silver
> bandaid.
>
> A layer of silver woven fabric, an inert layer of fabric with an aluminum
> woven layer on the other side.
> The body fluids of a wound act as an electrolyte triggering a battery cell
> effect where silver ions head towards the aluminum making a small EIS
> generator.
>
> Silver sulpatimide
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 02:52 PM 2/26/2014 +1100, you wrote:
>
>
>
> Below is an extract which mentions, quote "ion-exchange compounds" end
> quote.
>
>
> What constitutes an 'ion-exchange compound' in relation to *only* Ag+ ions
> dispersed in Distilled Water?  Does simply Ag+ ions dispersed in DW by the
> LVDC electrolysis method constitute a compound in this instance?  Or does
> it refer to something else added to the water?
>
>
> I'm not interested in the 'salts' part, only the 'ion-exchange compound'
> part.
>
>
>  Extract:  "Many types of silver dressings are treated with silver ions
> either in the form of silver salts or silver ion-exchange compounds. For
> these types of treatments, silver release requires moisture or moisture
> plus ions to solubilize and facilitate release of Ag+ ."
>
>
> N.
>
>
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Re: CS>TED talks anti-health OT

[Jim Holmes]

I have from the beginning identified TED as a mind-warp operation.  Very
deep, very subtle.  Is an excellent example of propaganda that is true for
the most part, so you will accept without question when they slip you a big
one.


On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 9:23 PM, ASL  wrote:

> This is horrible that TED fell into the trap of Monsanto. I'm severely
> disappointed at them... I used TED a lot to train my ASL interpreting
> students for mock-interpreting practice. Now I feel conflicted.  It's the
> only site that puts English subtitles on all of their lectures (I'm Deaf).
>  Thanks for the warning. I wish we could do something to arrest Monsanto
> before it's too late to do anything about it. Petitions seems like a joke,
> just my opinion.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Quote:
> *Keep Calm, Learn American Sign Language. *
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Joe Huard  wrote:
>
>> I for one will now boycott all TED talks on general principle, because
>> they are in Monsanto's pocket.
>> http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/11/21/ted-talks-now-alternative-health/
>> Please spread around.
>>
>> Joe H.
>>
>>
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Re: CS>blue man.

[Jim Holmes]

Some research...that I do not have handy...says that much heart disease
originates from low-grade bacterial infections; silver will help.


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:00 AM,  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> the silver did not kill him- he had a heart attack and died of pneumonia
> in hospital
>
> Ironic that the blue man got pneumonia which EIS works good to control and
> he didn't even use it when he should have. On the list it was said that we
> die for health reasons from 2 things, 1 pneumonia which EIS controls, and 2
> heart stops. EIS works for 1 but not for 2.
> Brickey
>

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Jim Holmes]

What is "Reichi"?


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Elizabeth Williams
wrote:

> I recently had what i believe was a cancer growth. I used the black salve
> canselma by Caton and it was gone in 4 days.
>
> --
> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:09:57 -0400
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer
>
>
> I worked with a woman some years back that had melanoma.  The day before
> the surgery, she was treated by Reichi.  When she went to have the
> operation it was gone.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 8/24/2013 3:45 PM, Anne Ney wrote:
>
> Has to be cut out...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 24, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Rusty"  wrote:
>
>Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin
> cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL
>
>
>
> Kathleen
>
> --
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3211/6105 - Release Date: 08/24/13
>
>
>

Re: CS>Arthritis - Fluoride

[Jim Holmes]

RO and Fluoride

According to a 2008 University of Nebraska guide, reverse osmosis can
remove many typical impurities from water. These include dissolved minerals
such as calcium and magnesium, as well as solid particles and pesticide
contaminants. The guide states that RO systems will remove fluoride ions
from water. This guide also notes that RO units can be configured to
produce enough fluoride-free water for an entire household, and recommends
that a reliable water treatment dealer be consulted to choose and install
the most appropriate

Read more:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/527125-does-reverse-osmosis-remove-fluoride/#ixzz2cNPMB691


On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 7:20 PM, olushola camara wrote:

> Just don't harvest the first 20 minutes.
>
> Olushola
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:01 AM, 123 456  wrote:
>
>> with all the chemtrrail activity I  really have  question the wisdom
>> of  this  method  of using water.
>> I guess it depend upon where you  are.
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/13, olushola camara  wrote:
>> > It's better to start with rain water with any water filtration, as it's
>> > more alive and it contains far less pollutants than tap water.
>> >
>> > rainwaterharvest...@yahoogroups.com has a lot of good info for setting
>> up a
>> > rain water collection system.
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: Fw: CS> MoM/Club Soda mix

[Jim Holmes]

What is the purpose of this elixir?

TIA,

Jim


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Jane MacRoss
wrote:

> **
> Amazingly in Australia we cannot buy MoM - our equivalent is full of
> Aluminium - I recently asked a friend in UK to send me some Original MoM
> and he looked and looked and it is currently NOT available in UK - so if
> you ever want MoM for your stock cupboard - get it now before it
> disappears!  //  Jane
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Fw: CS> MoM/Club Soda mix
>
>
> Wrongo, Harold! I was surprised to see sodium hypochlorite on the label as
> a non-medicinal ingredient, but it's there. Try using a magnifying glass as
> the print is quite small.
>
>

CS>Glaucoma

[Jim Holmes]

Does anyone have any references to techniques that work?

TIA,

Jim

CS>Brooks Bradley Contact info.

[Jim Holmes]

Hello all,

Does anyone have Brook's direct e-mail, or a link to his institute?

Jim

Re: CS>Any success treating mononucleosis with C.S.?

[Jim Holmes]

Marshall,

I was surprised by your statement about CS and the lymph system.  I had
read many years earleir that it concentrated in the nodes, in proximity to
the pathogens sequestered there. On what do you base your knowledge?

Thank you,

Jim

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:03 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Frequencies.
> PT
>
> --
> *From:* phoenix23002 tds.net 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Fri, March 1, 2013 8:20:28 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Any success treating mononucleosis with C.S.?
>
> Just curious, PT but.. how are the neurotoxins being removed?  Thanks..
> Lola H.
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>
>>  I've had it twice 10 years apart... 1965 and 1974ish.  Didn't know
>> about CS when I had it.  The doc didn't believe it could be contracted a
>> second time so I walked around catching all kinds of infections before I
>> saw another doc who dx it.  I just found someone who is helping to remove
>> the neurotoxins left behind by the virus.  It has been amazing.
>> PT
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* Robert Maginnis 
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Fri, March 1, 2013 4:02:14 PM
>> *Subject:* CS>Any success treating mononucleosis with C.S.?
>>
>>
>> I know 2 teen age relatives who have mononucleosis.  Anybody have success
>> treating mononucleosis with C.S.?
>>
>> Thanks.  Bob Maginnis bobm...@att.net
>>
>
>

Re: CS>We know they're doing it. We also know the truth !

[Jim Holmes]

I can't find the article documenting the allegation that WebMD was paid by
Merck.

Can anyone direct me?

 Jim

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:09 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

> Lois -- I *think* Bob was referring to Steve Barwick as the scumbag that
> pharma doesn't need more of to point at.
>
> Not you -- surely!!!
> MA
>
> --
> *From:* "zzekel...@aol.com" 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thu, February 21, 2013 4:25:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>We know they're doing it. We also know the truth !
>
>  *Sorry, I didn't mean to be a "scumbag" but I did go to WebMD & found CS
> to be mean mouthed & one of the 5 No, No's & not to be used... I've used it
> for over 5 years now almost every day & haven't had a twinge of blue
> skin... I have several friends using it & they aren't smurffs either.. I
> would never buy one of the barwick's generators --but have checked on some
> of his reports & they have been true... Lois*
>
>
> From: "bob Larson" 
> >> Subject: RE: CS> We know they're doing it. We also know the truth !
> >>
> >>
> >> steve barwick wants a usory fortune for hisw simplistic CS generator and
> >> his 12ga .999 silver wire.
> >> this guy is predatory by my definition, and part of the CS blight around
> >> the net that brings about or encourages bad attitudes re CS  pharma
> >> doesn't need more scumbags to point at.
>
>
>

Re: CS> How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery

[Jim Holmes]

Very interesting.  I am interested in knowing what happens long term.

I wonder if a TENS device could be used in the same manner.  Higher
voltage, pulsed.

They even come with conductive pads.

Very pure distilled water is an insulator.


Lois,

Thank you for the info.  I am interested in follow up.  It stopped it.
Now, can the nerve recover full functioning?

May I have your permission to copy and paste your mail complete and
unaltered except to remove anything you desire?

Later,
   Jim



On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:53 PM,  wrote:

> **
> In a message dated 1/20/2013 6:35:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> Hi,
> Anyone know if DMSO and homemade silver could help an abscessed tooth and
> prevent a root canal? If so what would be the protocol please.
> Thanks, Sandy
> *  { It's  a yahoo group  
> **germkillersignin
> Hi Sandy,  I cured a really bad abscess with a double A battery. Had them
> before & had to take mega doses of antibiotics before I started learning
> about alternatives. *
>
> *This is what I did.---* * {{*I used it & let Bg know on the
> electricgermkiller sit.--It was put in the archive with my instructions. he
> asked for pictures of how I built it but I never took any & sent them..I
> should but it is so easy*-}}*I took about 6-8 inches of lamp
> wire---pulled it in halfcleaned the rubber / plastic  on each end of
> both wires--{ about 3/4 inches }   I soldered one end of one wire to the
> pos. post on the battery & one end of the other wire on the negative
> end On the other bare ends I wrapped a small piece of cotton cloth. { I
> used a needle & thread to keep it in place |   I soaked the cloth end of
> each wire in distilled water-Put the cloth end of one wire in my mouth
> as close to the abscess as I could get it & the other wire outside on the
> big bump on my jaw..I held them in place for 5 mins. then switched
> positions ---inside wire out * outside wire in {thus changing the polarity
> }  & held it for 5 mins. .
> *   I did this in the evening before bed time..rinsed my mouth with
> hydrogen peroxide / distilled water & then CS /EIS...   I did the same
> thing the next morning & again in the eveningThe next morning when I
> got up the swelling was almost gone & no more problems since...This was
> several months agoNO- you can't feel a thing as far as electric current
> passing through the jaw... I even used it to cure my Grandson's cold sore &
> an infected big toe Good luck--Lois  *
>

Re: CS>kerosene testimony pet and human

[Jim Holmes]

>From long memory, and possibly incorrect,  1/4 cup of Kerosene is enough to
kill.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy wrote:

>  My Amish friends use just a tiny dab of kerosene on the end of a q-tip to
> coat their tonsils or back of the throat when they feel an intense sore
> throat coming on.  It doesn't always work - seems to be most effective,
> strangely enough, with ones that test as strep.  Their doctor has suggested
> they not do it since its supposed to be toxic, but since he knows they're
> going to do it anyways, he sent some throat swabs home with them, asked
> them to use it before doing the kerosene and then come see him as soon as
> they could get to town.   The folks  that tested positive for strep prior
> to "treatment" were fairly frequently no longer testing positive on
> follow-up culture.  Its not fool proof, but with their difficulties in
> getting prompt transportation and such, it doesn't seem an unwise
> precaution to take.  Doctor just shakes his head, but he can't argue with
> my Amish friend's response that a whole lot of the medicines the docs give
> out are also toxic.  Sara
>
>
>
> Am 28.12.2012 20:17, schrieb dAVId:
>
> Consumption of the Lungs and Kindred Diseases, Treated and Cured by
> Kerosene ... - Charles Oscar Frye - Google 
> Books
> david lubbock tx.
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Marshall  wrote:
>
>>  This is an interesting site:
>>
>> http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm
>>
>> I would be very careful.  Most references list kerosene as being toxic.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>> On 12/28/2012 1:50 PM, vicki hood wrote:
>>
>>  Testimony please.  Kerosene for pets and people.  Did you use it?  For
>> what?  Your pets have healings?  Tumors?  Arthritus?  Still use it?  I
>> would like to know if it worked and what dosage to try.  Oh, I can see and
>> hear the wrath of big pharma.  I believe in Gramma. Sincerely,  Muttmom
>> Vicki Hood
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Has anyone investigated this substance?

[Jim Holmes]

Why do I need to overcome the quantum signature of he silver ion?



On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:38 PM, James McDonald  wrote:

> Really? how do you overcome the quantum signature of the silver ion?
>   --
> *From:* Jim Holmes 
> *To:* Silver-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 4, 2012 12:09 AM
> *Subject:* CS>Has anyone investigated this substance?
>
> I like the geometry, no matter what.
>
> Multiple Modes of Action
>
> Testing has uncovered multiple modes of action by which the ABL Metallic
> Nano-silver Particle functions. First, it has an ability to steal multiple
> electrons (compared to ionic silvers which can only steal one). Second,
> each particle is permanently embedded with a resonant frequency, which
> allows the particles to have a positive effect on things, without needing
> direct contact with them. Lastly, the particles also utilize a very useful
> electrostatic charge.
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>HIV success with CS?>>liposomes?

[Jim Holmes]

What is MPS function?

TIA

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:49 AM,  wrote:

> Vit. d is mouse a poison
>
>
> --
> *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
> *To:* "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> *Sent:* Wed, December 5, 2012 4:50:39 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: CS>HIV success with CS?>>liposomes?
>
> I must say I really don't understand the science as it is very complicated.
> Can anyone tell me - with this information in mind - if this means that
> taking liposomal Vit C or indeed, Vit D3 in liposomal form, is detrimental
> to our health - or immune system?  dee
>
>
> > From: mgperrault 
> > Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> > Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:42:06 -0700
> > To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> > Subject: Re: CS>HIV success with CS?>>liposomes?
> > Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> > Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 01:42:07 -0800
> >
> > AJ
> >
> > If fact I made it sound worse than it is. My intent was to illustrate
> > that phagoytosis was the natural fate of any liposomes that made it into
> > the lymph and blood. If a large amount of liposomes got into the system,
> > then the macrophages would be hard at work eating them up. However, its
> > difficult to find evidence that intact liposomes make it across the GI
> > tract, although Peyers patches may transport some into the lymph system.
> >
> > Overburdening the immune system was not the right description, sorry.
> > Because liposomes are consumed by macrophages, it is a well known method
> > to deplete them in vivo by loading liposomes with the drug
> > dichloromethylene diphosphonate. This is able to wipe out a large
> > percent of macrophages in the target system. But even unloaded liposomes
> > can have a dramatic effect on the spleen and liver and immune system
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Has anyone investigated this substance?

[Jim Holmes]

Will do.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Manuel Abad wrote:

>  Hello Jim
>
> Yes indeed .. Iam also investigating such claims so iam particular
> attracted to the answer to your postings regarding Ag4O4.
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>
>
> On 12/03/2012 11:09 PM, Jim Holmes wrote:
>
> I like the geometry, no matter what.
>
> Multiple Modes of Action
>
> Testing has uncovered multiple modes of action by which the ABL Metallic
> Nano-silver Particle functions. First, it has an ability to steal multiple
> electrons (compared to ionic silvers which can only steal one). Second,
> each particle is permanently embedded with a resonant frequency, which
> allows the particles to have a positive effect on things, without needing
> direct contact with them. Lastly, the particles also utilize a very useful
> electrostatic charge.
>
>
>
>

CS>Has anyone investigated this substance?

[Jim Holmes]

I like the geometry, no matter what.

Multiple Modes of Action

Testing has uncovered multiple modes of action by which the ABL Metallic
Nano-silver Particle functions. First, it has an ability to steal multiple
electrons (compared to ionic silvers which can only steal one). Second,
each particle is permanently embedded with a resonant frequency, which
allows the particles to have a positive effect on things, without needing
direct contact with them. Lastly, the particles also utilize a very useful
electrostatic charge.

CS>Ordinary Sol and Tetra-oxide.

[Jim Holmes]

Marshall, et al,

If you have previously addressed this, please direct me to the approximate
place.  If not;

1.  Is there a benefit from the tetraoxide that cannot be obtained with
properly routed and dosed Sol/Ionic mix made today with many vulgar
electrolytic process and if so, what are they?

2.  If there is a significant advantage, can you point me in the direction
of practical instruction?

3.  Studies?   Where would one look?

Only when and if you have interest and time. Thank you for your years of
generous expertise.

You are my anchor point in this maelstrom.

Be Well,

  Jim

Re: CS>Vitamin C

[Jim Holmes]

Years ago I read an article by a Brit med ass. that said that therapeutic
doses of
C caused. Cancer.  That flies in the face of everything else.  I
immediately classified it Bull something. I take about 5 grams a day.
See Also, *Practicing Medicine Without a License, *Owne Fonorow*.
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/vitcheart.shtml
*
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Paul  wrote:

>  Hi Dee,
>
> Can you tell us where this information comes from?  I have a personal
> and commercial interest in Lipo Vit C and this goes against absolutely
> everything I've ever learnt, but I'm a truth seeker and want to see all
> angles, so please if you have some information it would be much
> appreciated if you'll share.  I R&D every day like a hawk and have never
> heard anything of this kind **except** that small doses of Vit C could
> help cancer survive, because it changes its behaviour in a dose
> dependant manner, and the idea is to hit is quick and very hard, and not
> to pussy foot around with it with RDA levels of 60-65mg etc.  It can be
> a pro-oxidant and an anti-oxidant dependent on dose and environment.
>
> Regards
> Paul
>
>
> On 04/11/2012 19:41, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
>
>  The only problem is, I am on another list which strongly suggests that
> taking supplemental Vit C can actually **help** cancer to survive.  I
> would be interested to hear any comments on this.  dee
>
>
>

Re: CS>Does CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

[Jim Holmes]

Mail Error.  Sorry, Jim

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Jim Holmes  wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout.  I have never seen any hard science
> on it.  FWIW; here it is.
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>   What we make "can"..if..
>>
>> 1]  You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over
>> loaded with copper + low Selenium?  ]
>> 2] Abnormal body chemistry
>> 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time.
>>
>> One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as
>> strong as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day  for two years.
>> He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped
>> his regimen.
>> The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals,
>> neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated.
>>
>> It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey.
>> Normal elimination rate:  98% in 48 hours
>> Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry
>> workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000
>>  Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how
>> many hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years?
>> Odds, slim to almost none, but "possible"
>>
>> Use some common sense.
>>
>> Ode
>>
>>
>> At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote:
>>
>> "Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray?"
>>
>> Well CS might, but what we produce won't.
>>
>> Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with
>> mine .  What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't
>> cause Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged
>> particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in
>> tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough.  What we make in
>> the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles
>> there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic
>> issue.
>>
>> Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or
>> used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed
>> in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned
>> it won't cause Argyria.  There has not been one case of the consumption or
>> use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in
>> Argyria.  Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called
>> 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver
>> acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go
>> against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of
>> stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?'
>> of which is not what we produce.
>>
>> To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a
>> 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> --
>> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700
>> From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net
>> Subject: CS>Does CS cause Argeria --turning gray?
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for
>> Lyme treatment.
>> I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But
>> then I read in a  post today that  Dave  said
>> >  " After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol (
>> 4
>> >   oz
>> > every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a
>> day
>> > or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria"
>>
>> I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this.
>>
>> ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe
>> site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is
>> that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS
>> generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also?
>>
>> Thank you for your help.
>> Sandy
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Does CS cause Argeria --turning gray?

[Jim Holmes]

Hi Mark,

Anecdotal report of CS helping Gout.  I have never seen any hard science on
it.  FWIW; here it is.

Jim

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

>
>
>   What we make "can"..if..
>
> 1]  You have something wrong with your metals elimination system [over
> loaded with copper + low Selenium?  ]
> 2] Abnormal body chemistry
> 3] you take a LOT of EIS, made very strong, for a long time.
>
> One person in S Africa reported turning grey after making his CS as strong
> as he could and drank 2 large coffee mugs a day  for two years.
> He said it helped with the pain of a bad case of gout and has not stopped
> his regimen.
> The silver was probably combining with the uric acid crystals,
> neutralizing them somehow and was not being eliminated.
>
> It is very rare that silver in any form at any amount turns people grey.
> Normal elimination rate:  98% in 48 hours
> Reported rate back in the days of no respirators etc, silver industry
> workers exposed to silver dust and smelting fumes daily...1 in 2000
>  Somewhere around 5 have managed it with Home Made silver..out of how many
> hundreds of thousands in the past 30 or so years?
> Odds, slim to almost none, but "possible"
>
> Use some common sense.
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 08:59 PM 10/28/2012 +1100, you wrote:
>
> "Does CS cause Argyria - turning gray?"
>
> Well CS might, but what we produce won't.
>
> Everyone may have differing opinions on this one, so I'll get in with mine
> .  What we make is (1) NOT colloidal silver {CS}, and (2) It won't cause
> Argyria because it's predominantly Ag+ ions and not neutral charged
> particles which are in higher numbers by ratio and as such won't collect in
> tissue, besides it doesn't stay in the system long enough.  What we make in
> the kitchen is a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution, and what particles
> there are, are far too small and in less quantity to cause any cosmetic
> issue.
>
> Of course I can't speak for Dave, or anyone else who may have consumed or
> used large quantities for an extended amount of time, but if not consumed
> in large volumes or for an extended period of time as far as I'm concerned
> it won't cause Argyria.  There has not been one case of the consumption or
> use of our product reported by the FDA or our TGA as having resulted in
> Argyria.  Every report they waffle on about refer to that product called
> 'CS' or 'Colloidal Silver', and most refer to silver nitrates, silver
> acetates, solutions produced by people who are ignorant or wilfully go
> against the correct production procedure, or a product containing a form of
> stabiliser {usually higher ppm level products} and a host of other 'stuff?'
> of which is not what we produce.
>
> To recap: My opinion...NO, EIS {Electrolytically Isolated Silver} or a
> 'predominantly Ionic Silver Solution' will not cause Argyria.
>
> N.
>
> --
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:16:13 -0700
> From: jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> CC: jssmpren...@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: CS>Does CS cause Argeria --turning gray?
>
> Hi,
> I am new to this list and considering buying a kit to make CS at home for
> Lyme treatment.
> I thought I had read CS does not cause Argeria--turning skin gray. But
> then I read in a  post today that  Dave  said
> >  " After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
> >   oz
> > every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
> > or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria"
>
> I would appreciate those with experience opinion on this.
>
> ALso when I went to silver puppy.com web site I got very confused. THe
> site does not mention silver puppy. It is about Coyote Zenterprizes. Is
> that the correct site to order from. IS it the standard automatic CS
> generator was recommended. Should I purchase a stirrer also?
>
> Thank you for your help.
> Sandy
>

Re: CS>promising lat lyme cure

[Jim Holmes]

Hello,

Where might I learn of the PPM, aprox particle size, and general
description of the method of manufacture, of the sol?
TIA,

Jim

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Dave Darrin  wrote:

> Update
>
> Just to let you that are interested know, At this time I have no symptoms
> of lyme left and feel that the enzyme protocol worked
>
> Only time will tell but I don't really want to stop taking the CDS to find
> out if it returns.
>
> Dave
>
>
>  Re: CS>promising late lyme cure
>
> Tony Moody
> Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:05:30 -0700
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Thanks for the report/update.
>
> Have the smurf features gone away; with time or anything else?
>
> In retrospect what would you recommend?
>
> OK,
> Tony
>
> On 6 Jun 2012 at 13:06, Dave Darrin wrote about :
> Subject : CS>promising late lyme cure
>
> > To all with Lyme questions
> >
> >   After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
> >   oz
> > every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
> > or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria .
> >  Look in the archives for the whole story if you need it.
> >   When the Argeria got to a point where I didn't wish to turn any darker I
> > stopped taking the CS.  For two years I didn't have any Lyme symptoms so I
> > thought all was OK then It hit me with all it's fury. So after I got to
> > the point that I couldn't walk I started looking for a way to get rid of
> > it without turning into more of a Smurf .
> >
> >
> >   I used the Wobenzym M and CDS which is the gas from activated MMS. ( Jim
> > Humble tells you how to make it)
> >  I've been taking this Wobenzym M ( 6 tablets twice a day on an empty
> > stomach) with CDS one hour later. I've been doing this for a month and am
> > back nearly as good as before the attack.
> >  The CDS unlike MMS is flavorless and has a very faint smell so it's easer
> > to take long term.
> >
> > The Enzyme eats holes in the protective coating that forms on the hidden
> > spirochete and the nodules they form that contain their DNA and allows the
> > imune system to find them and the CS, CDS, MMS or whatever you choose to
> > kill it with to be effective .
> >
> > Take a look at the link
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.healthsalon.org/505/cure-chronic-lyme/
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: Sugar was // Re: bladder, was Re: Dan / Re: CS>The book, Pain Free, by Pete Egoscue

[Jim Holmes]

"Once the glucose is used up, insulin levels drop and *the stored fructose
is converted to fructose *and burned.

Marshall, is that a typo?  did you mean "converted to glucose"?

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy wrote:

> I went and checked the ingredients.  It is stevia "extract" - which is
> chemically processed, _and_ it also uses maltodextrin (made from corn) for
> sweetning.  Bad combo - but is what is used to spread stevia out in many
> supposedly "stevia" products.  I wouldn't touch anything with maltodextrin
> in it with a ten foot pole.  Sara
>
>  my body like those "substitute" sugars
>> it does best with just plain old sugar
>> or maple syrup or honey
>> but the stevia that stopped my detox was in the
>> electrolye balance emergen-c
>> http://www.amazon.com/Emergen-**C-820340-Electro-Mix-30-count/**
>> dp/B002HWRY5S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=**UTF8&qid=1348741924&sr=8-1&**
>> keywords=emergen+c+electrolyte
>> no idea which one they used
>> but i had to throw the rest of the box out
>> i do good with all the other emergen-c's just not this one.
>> i do them when i come out of the fir sauna to replenish the minerals lost
>> from
>> sweating
>>
>> Maple Springs Farm
>> Farm Store - Maple Syrup, Custom Embroidery, Etched Glass, Shoo-fly pie,
>> Funny
>> Cake Pie, Emu Oil, Dog Art Prints, Handmade Soap and More...
>> http://www.maplesprings.com
>> On-Line Cookbook
>> http://www.maplespringsfarm.**com 
>>
>> -- Original Message ---
>> From: Sara Mandal-Joy
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:05:17 -0500
>> Subject: Re: Sugar was // Re: bladder, was Re: Dan / Re: CS>The book, Pain
>> Free, by Pete Egoscue
>>
>>  One thing to be aware of is that not all stevia is the same.  Many
>>> of the products called stevia actually are full of other fillers
>>> that are pretty nasty to most people with sensitive health issues.
>>>   ANY white powdered stevia, including those that are "pure" stevia,
>>>   has been highly chemically processed, and is NOT a pancreatic tonic,
>>>   or any other kind of tonic.  It has no health benefits except for
>>> eliminating the calories of sugar.It does not moderate blood
>>> sugar, it does not effect the pancreas.  It does tend to increase
>>> insulin just as sugar does - just the sweet taste on the taste buds
>>> sets that reaction off.  BUT "real" stevia, the whole leaf or
>>> powdered green/brown hard to dissolve stevia - this is used as a
>>> pancreatic tonic, doesn't have the same insulin boost, as the whole
>>> herb mediates the oversweet sensation, and does moderate blood
>>> glucose levels.  In South America it is used as a primary treatment
>>> for diabetes.   But, of course, things do work differently for
>>> different people.  Just my two cents.  Sara
>>>
 Interesting - it didn't suit my DH either - it is meant to be a
 pancreatic tonic - maybe that's why it doesn't suit everyone?

 Jane



  just a fyi
> stevia totally stops my body from detoxing
> turns it off like a lightswitch
> and drops my blood sugar
> one of those things that yeah everyone else can eat
> but not me!!!
>

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Re: CS>heavy metal poison

[Jim Holmes]

Chelation, High Dose Vit. C

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Sandee George  wrote:

> I would suggest chelation however there are other modalities which can be
> looked at
> Regards
> Sandee
> Attitude is everything!!!
> www.aliveagain.co.cc
>
>
>
> 
> *Woman is 53 But Looks 25*
> Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
> 
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Re: CS>odd situation

[Jim Holmes]

I once left a 1/2 gallon of silver in an HDPE bottle behind a storm door in
sunlight.  It turned red.  Does anyone know the mechanism?

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:33 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Thanks, this may be what happened as I was taking swigs out of the bottles
> morning and night.  I will watch and see if it happens again.
> PT
>
> --- On *Thu, 5/17/12, Teri * wrote:
>
>
> From: Teri 
> Subject: RE: CS>odd situation
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 5:24 AM
>
>
>  I have found that if I do that and if saliva gets in it turns
> pink/brown.  It is still good though.
>
>
>
> Teri
>
> --
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 18:36:45 -0700
> From: ptf2...@bellsouth.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>odd situation
>
> Hi, I was wondering if someone can help?  About 6 weeks ago I made some CS
> to take with me on a trip.  I made it with a silver puppy and it was
> perfectly clear and seemed potent.  I put it in a Rubbermaid plastic water
> container and carried it with me.  After about 3 weeks on the road it
> turned a brownish color.  Can anyone tell me why this happened and if it is
> still good to use?
> Thanks. PT
>
>

Re: CS> Silver dressing

[Jim Holmes]

About 5 years ago I was buying some T nebulizers at a medical supply
store.  I noticed a package of Silver Coated 4 x 4 gauze bandages.  I don't
remember how many were in the package but it was only about 1.5 inches
thick.  The price then was $90.  One can get the same effects by spraying
the wound with CS. A bandage may be applied for mechanical protection of
the wound, in many cases is not needed.

I'll bet the package costs about $140 now.

   Jim H.

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Scotty  wrote:

> Silver Sulfadiazine is an anti-bacterial prescription cream also used as a
> topical dressing for burns, etc. Good stuff but not cheap.
> *
>
> Scotty
> *
> *Have a great day!*
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 5/19/12, Jane MacRoss * wrote:
>
>
> From: Jane MacRoss 
> Subject: Re: CS> Silver dressing
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, May 19, 2012, 12:43 AM
>
> 
>  Silver has been used for around 10 years for burns and large wounds -
> still pretty expensive but naturally works very well - I had a patient with
> the same problem - same size and I soaked her arm everyday in a warm MII
> soap and Neutraliser solution since Renee had just introduced me to those
> products and I was v enthusiastic - it healed in 10 days - of course one
> "wasn't allowed to get water near it" results were amazing and the warm
> soapy water very comforting.
>
> The most silver I ever used on a patient was a girl who in a caesarian
> section with epidural who had been terribly burned by the diathermy they
> used - not feeling anything at the time - and the hospital had to pay for
> the dressings - it would have been about $70 a day for the dressings alone.
> 3rd degree burns on both upper thighs. Awful.
>
> Jane
>
> *From:* Harold
>
>  Recently, my 89 year old neighbour lady had a severe fall in which a
> flap of skin approx. 2” x 5” was peeled back off her shin.The Dermatologist
> specialist said a skin graft would normally be the procedure ,but, in her
> case, being 89+, this was too risky.He ,instead, used a silver impregnated
> bandage to dress it.This bandage had to be replaced every day.After a few
> days the Dr. was very pleased as the wound was healing beautifully.Needless
> to say,both she and her husband were pleased too.
>
> Glad to know some of them are getting the message.
>
> Harold
>
>

Re: CS>Kelp - iodine?

[Jim Holmes]

Now, with Fukushima, where the kelp is harvested is of critical
 importance.

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Saralou  wrote:

> Brooks Bradley once said that Thorvin from Hoegger Supply is the source he
> used.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/**search?q=thorvin&l=silver-**
> list%40eskimo.com
>
> On 5/12/2012 7:24 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
>
>> Thanks one and all, I'll befriend google for a while.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> --**--**
>> 
>> T>> - Original Message - >> From: Neville Munn >> To:
>> silver-list@eskimo.com  >> Sent:
>> Saturday, May 12, 2012 6:38 PM >> Subject: CS>Kelp - iodine? >> >> >> Sorry
>> about this as it's OT, just wanna ask one question, can anyone >> suggest
>> where and what form of Kelp to purchase in Australia? >> >> >> I prefer not
>> to go the health store supplement route, just something >> specific which
>> contains iodine in a form which won't poison someone . >> >> >> Thanks
>> muchly >> >> >> N. >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG -
>> www.avg.com  >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus
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Re: CS>Negative Energy

[Jim Holmes]

Truth as this is rare and the wise will take heed.

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Marshall  wrote:

> It really isn't quite as simple as that.  There are two ways other people
> can affect you. They can draw energy, what I call energy vampires.  For
> them simply cut them off and they will tend to go to someone who is less
> aware to draw their energy from. They are always negative disconnected
> people who are unable to draw their energy from source directly, and I have
> known some of them to be able to discharge batteries very rapidly.
>
> The others are those who are sending you negative energy. These can
> usually be classified as curses, and if you allow them to attach can and
> will cause you problems.  As you say the best way to deal with them in
> general is to send them back to the sender.  Some aware people even wrap
> them in love and return them.  There is no karma involved in this.  Others
> will say to multiply it by 10 or some amount and send it back. I say this
> is not a good idea as that WILL incur karma for you.  Also it is best if
> you can discern why the negative energy/curses are being sent to you.  The
> current estimate is that between 40 and 45% of the population is possessed
> at some level, anything from an attachment, overshadowing, or full on
> possession.  My own experiences tend to confirm these numbers.
>
>  I have found that 50% or more of the curses I and my loved ones receive
> are not from the people directly but from the entities possessing or
> overshadowing them.This definitely complicates matters.  The problem is
> that usually when these are sent by an attaching entity to someone aware,
> they expect it to bounce back and affect the person they are attached to,
> with the end result that there will be additional negative energy they can
> draw on, or a draining of the will of that person so they can gain more
> control.  Thus if I detect a curse impinging on myself I will check who it
> is coming from, and if it is coming from them or an attachment.  If an
> attachment then because it attacked you, you have the right to ask the
> angels to bind or take it to the light, and they will do so upon a simple
> request.  Then have the curse dissolved, grounded, or negative energy
> converted to positive energy, instead of sending it back.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> On 5/12/2012 3:35 AM, Mike Monett wrote:
>
>>   There has been discussion of non-physical healing  methods recently.
>>   Some of  these  can be quite effective  if  used  properly. Positive
>>   energy is the key.
>>
>>   But how  do  you  deal with negative energy? The  first  step  is to
>>   recognize it, and learn how to return it back to where it came from.
>>
>>   This is  a  response to a private email from a friend  who  has been
>>   having problems with attacks. This is definitely on topic in a forum
>>   that deals with healing. I hope it can help others.
>>
>>   I start without preamble.
>>
>>   ~~**~~**
>> 
>>   My old  girlfriend  was a homeopath. Some of the stuff  she  gave me
>>   really knocked me out. She was the one I bought the two SE-5's for.
>>
>>   She really helped me when I was travelling on business and  was full
>>   of pain.  They  work. I wanted her to marry me. She  said  she could
>>   not. She  knew  she was going to die. And so went  the  most amazing
>>   woman I have ever known.
>>
>>   She taught me most of what I know about the spiritual planes. I have
>>   had some  absolutely mind-boggling experiences thanks to  her. These
>>   tell me  eventually all this will come to an end and I will  gain my
>>   full health back. On a different plane. The first thing I will do is
>>   look her  up and see if I can find her and thank her.  But  she will
>>   probably be on a different plane.
>>
>>   That's ok. Eventually I will get there also.
>>
>>   Find a  way  to  compliment those who try  to  slap  you  down. Even
>>   thanking them  for  spelling  your name right.  That  is  a terrible
>>   insult to them. They cannot respond to that kind of  compliment. You
>>   need to overcome the attack and win. This is absolutely necessary.
>>
>>   Otherwise the wounds go deep and start to affect other  things. Your
>>   health for example.
>>
>>   Never let  idiots  rule. Stop them cold, but in  a  way  they cannot
>>   respond.
>>
>>   Then you  turn their energy against themself. They will  think twice
>>   or thrice  before  attacking you again. Make it clear  they  have no
>>   chance against you. There are many ways to do it. I'm sure  you will
>>   do fine.  But don't get dragged into a repeated  exchange. Terminate
>>   trolls quickly.
>>
>>   Ignore them. Anything they say will quickly fade in everyone's mind.
>>
>>   You will gain satisfaction of having the strength to remain quiet.
>>
>>   They will gain the frustration of not being able to provoke you.
>>
>>   This is  pretty evil stuff, but there is no way to be  

Re: CS>tooth problems- can EIS help? Double A Battery

[Jim Holmes]

Thanks to all for the information and reports.

Jim

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

>
>   You can also buy a variety of battery holders at Radio Shack.
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 01:38 PM 4/29/2012 -0400, you wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/29/2012 1:05:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> blacksa...@comcast.net writes:
>
>
> I’d be interested in this (I do already have a bigger battery set up) –
> but never hearrd of a single battery being used. Please share. Lisa   I
> finally copied it so I didn't have to think it through again--  :-)  also
> if you can't solder you can hold the wires on with tape..Solder is just
> easier }
>
>  Hi Lisa, I just posted for Jim, Here it is again---I used it & let
> Bg know on the electricgermkiller sit.--It was put in the archive with my
> instructions. She asked for pictures of how I built it but I never took any
> & sent them..I should but it is so easy-I took about 6-8 inches of lamp
> wire---pulled it in halfcleaned the rubber / plastic  on each end of
> both wires--{ about 3/4 inches }   I soldered one end of one wire to the
> pos. post on the battery & one end of the other wire on the negative
> end On the other bare ends I wrapped a small piece of cotton cloth. { I
> used a needle & thread to keep it in place |   I soaked the cloth end of
> each wire in distilled water-Put the cloth end of one wire in my mouth
> as close to the abscess as I could get it & the other wire outside on the
> big bump on my jaw..I help them in place for 5 mins. then switched
> positions ---inside wire out * outside wire in {thus changing the polarity
> }  & held it for 5 mins. .
>I did this in the evening before bed time..rinsed my mouth with
> hydrogen peroxide / distilled water & then CS /EIS...   I did the same
> thing the next morning & again in the eveningThe next morning when I
> got up the swelling was almost gone & no more problems since...This was
> several months agoNO- you can't feel a thing as far as electric current
> passing through the jaw... I even used it to cure my Grandson's cold sore &
> an infected big toe Good luck--Lois
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Making 100% colloidal EIS

[Jim Holmes]

Has anyone calculated the optimal weight/volume of C per unit volume of
aprox 10 ppm total mixed particulate and ionic?

Does this mean someone will soon be marketing a new super remedy that deals
with heart disease and infectious disease at the same time?

Jim

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Marshall  wrote:

> **
> This research paper indicates that silver ascorbate apparently forms for
> about one second before becoming silver.  It is interesting, according to
> this paper, that the silver when using fairly high concentrations of silver
> nitrate and ascorbic acid produce silver flowers with petals.
>
> http://144.206.159.178/ft/566/63657/1082609.pdf
>
> I can't seem to copy and paste the appropriate section, but it is on the
> right hand side of page 3, second paragraph.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> On 5/2/2012 2:29 AM, David AuBuchon wrote:
>
> And if ascorbic acid makes metallic silver, then what is silver ascorbate?
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:21 PM, David AuBuchon 
> wrote:
>
>> Does exposing EIS to sun reduce ions to particles?
>>
>>  On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:19 PM, David AuBuchon > > wrote:
>>
>>> Questions/Comments:
>>>
>>> 1.  In addition to adding H202 after the ascorbic acid, what difference
>>> (if any) might there be if one first added H2O2 and added the ascorbic acid
>>> second?
>>>
>>> 2.  If I am not mistake, ascorbic acid could sneakily fit the definition
>>> of a "carbohydrate" ?  This may give more insight to what the SilverLungs
>>> person uses.  But he called it a "custom blended carbohydrate" which would
>>> imply more than one ingredient.  Though he could have added 1 carbon atom
>>> perhaps.
>>>
>>> 3.  I may try both vit C and peroxide with the 100uS brew I have.  If
>>> this works, then we have (at least in theory) a means of making silver ions
>>> at concentrations with no theoretical limit (via ultra low current), and
>>> then making high PPM colloidal suspensions by reducing those brews.  The
>>> home brewer could then do it all if someone developed the method enough.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
>>>
  How thick am I?  Sorry, wasn't following the dates, as you were.

  N.

  --
 Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 10:11:30 -0400

 From: mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CS>Making 100% colloidal EIS

 I would have to make some more, that was done back in 2010, and I no
 longer have it.

 Marshall

 On 5/1/2012 7:27 AM, Neville Munn wrote:

  Additional question Marshall...

  Could you report back on this in 4 weeks time {middle or end of next
 month, June} and let me know if there is any settlement observable please.

  N.

 > Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 00:23:01 -0400
 > From: mdud...@king-cart.com
 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 > Subject: Re: CS>Making 100% colloidal EIS
 >
 > On 3/12/2010 10:53 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:
 > > Very light yellow. It is more turpid than with color, leading me to
 > > believe that the particles are very small so they are absorbing
 > > primarily in the uv region and only lightly in the blue, but still
 > > sufficient in quantity to cause a good bit of reflection of light
 and
 > > thus the tremendous Tyndall. After two days it is still stable.
 > >
 > > Marshall
 > >



>>>
>>
>
>

Re: CS>tooth problems- can EIS help? Double A Battery

[Jim Holmes]

Werry interesting.

How does one receive instruction in the technique?

Are there..."studies"?

Thank you for that info.

Jim
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:17 PM,  wrote:

> **
>  In a message dated 4/28/2012 9:55:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> martsmai...@aol.com writes:
>
> If you have a diseased tooth, or if you’ve already had a root canal, I
> highly recommend consulting a biological dentist about have it extracted
>
>  I cured a real nasty abscess with a Double A  battery. It will kill
> infection.  Lois
>

Re: CS>converting ionic solution to colloids method

[Jim Holmes]

Hello Marshall, et al

How much Vitamin C do you add for aprox 10PPM sol made with Bruce Marx's
device.

Has the issue of Ionic v. particulate been resolved?  Can you comment?

Thank you,

Jim

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Marshall  wrote:

> **
> Hydrogen peroxide is what is called a redox agent, it both reduces and
> oxidizes.  For silver here are the equations:
>
> Ag + H2O2 -> H2O + AgO
> AgO + H2O2 -> Ag + H2O + O2
>
> To make pure colloid from ionic one can add vitamin C, ascorbic acid,
> which is only a reducing/antioxidant.
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/25/2012 7:49 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>
>
>   H2O2 and silver goes both ways.
>
> The Bell rocket belt is powered by H2O2 sprayed on a silver grid,
> producing steam.
> H2O2 will make silver oxides  AND unmake them.
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 03:55 PM 4/24/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>
> I don't think that H2O2 or Oxyclean qualify as "reducing agents" since
> they are oxidizers.
>
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Ode Coyote 
> wrote:
> >
> > I see quite a number of mis-truths in the manual.
> >
> > Electrolysis using only pure water and pure silver makes no
> photo-reactive
> > compounds, thus no need for colored glass to store it.
> >
> > The photo showing particles was done using a TEM which requires drying
> the
> > sample which CREATES those particles of silver oxide...they weren't in
> the
> > water at all.
> >
> > Adding H2O2 to a fresh batch will make it flash brownish...likely
> > Tetrasilver Tetroxide, a patented germ killer that is touted to work by
> in
> > vivo ion exchange.
> > Their reducing agent might be similar to "Oxyclean" an H2O2 based bleach.
> > [Turn your Golden hair into Platinum and have even more fun, girls. ]
> > The "non measurable particles" would be a form of silver oxide. [There
> are 4
> > or 5 different forms of silver oxide ]
> >
> > It's Silver Oxide that makes CS look yellow or amber...the same black
> stuff
> > that collects on one electrode when using the DC method and makes the
> golden
> > mist when the current density is too high so that it forms in the water
> > instead of staying on the electrode.
> > If you dip a black electrode in H2O2, it destroys that black stuff just
> like
> > it clears out the yellow /amber color out of the CS.
> >
> > Scrubbing the electrodes is a shear waste of silver.
> > The dull appearance is due to pitting of the surface, not
> > contamination...so, bulldoze a mountain to remove a creek bed?
> >
> > Their method for using the TDS meter is backwards, but may give a nearly
> > accurate number by accident if done under the right conditions.
> > ..makes the CS look stronger than it really is.
> > I think that both the ions [Ag+] AND anions [OH-] add conductivity and
> they
> > will reach a balance of mutual encounter probabilities according to
> > concentration. [the max being 30 uS ]
> > Â Also "some"Â  silver oxide will dissolve in the water and stay that
> way,
> > adding to conductivity and not making particles big enough to be
> seen...but
> > not much.
> > The number you get from a meter doesn't match the number derived from an
> aa
> > spectrophotometer [which ACTUALLY measures PPM, but doesn't differentiate
> > forms of silver ]Â  until the conductivity stops dropping.
> >
> > That's counting apples to see how many oranges you have, but both fruits
> are
> > about the same size. [once the lemons and limes that CAN turn into the
> > oranges you are trying to count, turn into those oranges ]
> >
> > More?
> >
> > What stir rate does to the numbers and size of silver hydroxide chunks.
> > Why Fred Sprauge [now deceased] who once made the illustrious
> microprocessor
> > controlled Custom Electronics LLC "Smart Silver" generator changed his
> > stirrer to a direct copy after trying to figure it out for 7 years.
> >
> > What electrode tip discharge does to current density and electrode
> erosion.
> > [Bend those tips slightly away from each other and the electrodes will
> last
> > a lot longer...better yet, get the tips out of the water...something else
> > that the "Smart Silver" copied and Fred admitted to.]
> >
> > Â "Sorry 'bout that Ode"..It's OK Fred.
> > We both learned something when we traded units and mixed the parts.
> > He was a good guy with a good product that didn't need distortions and
> > emotional manipulation to sell itself.
> > Who better to share a market with ?
> >
> > Ode
> >
> >
> >
> > At 10:52 AM 4/22/2012 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > http://www.silverlungs.com/latest_user_manual_hm_ez_v.pdf
> >
> > The manual for SilverLungs describes adding a "reducing agent" to
> convert an
> > ionic solution to a colloidal silver.  They have a photo of it turning
> amber
> > color.  Any idea what it is, and if it is legit?
> >
> > David
>
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Re: CS>Cure your arthritis and a whole lot more!

[Jim Holmes]

Quaff large amounts of CS.  Can't hurt, may help. Recent research shows
that CS is more effective than radiation.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Marlys  wrote:

> **
> Posting to all you who are writing about arthritis.  Dr. Bruce West of
> Health Alert tells you how to cure your arthritis speedily (hint: * major
> culprit is  wheat products for many!*),  as well as just about everything
> else that ails you.  Go to this link to read his latest offer:
>
> http://www.healthalert.com/
>
> I am in the process of writing up one of his surveys requesting in depth
> information about how best to maximize my chances against cancer.   (I was
> just diagnosed with thyroid cancer, the direct result of the radiation the
> conventional medical wisdom determined I should have after I contracted
> breast cancer in 1996, after the conventional medical wisdom told us women
> we should all take HRT forever a few years earlier --  before we learned it
> can cause  your heart disease AND breast cancer!)   If you send him a
> letter with your question, he will answer it personally, for free.  For
> more information, the sum of $39 gets an indepth review of your health
> problem, AND throw in his amazing encyclopedia of practical medical
> knowledge if you make it $59!   I know whereof I speak:
>
> This summer it will be be two years since my husband received the news
> from his cardiologist that he must go home and put his affairs in order
> immediately, and stop driving.   A chance reading on a 30 day monitor he
> was wearing to learn how to better manage his blood pressure had shown a
> dangerous reading, of the kind of heart fibrillation that is generally
> fatal immediately -- ventricular tachycardia.  They put him through all
> kinds of tests in the hospital for two days and could not locate anything
> to account for his new problem.  So...they wanted to do angiograms and
> place a stent if they could find a place for one...and who knows what
> else.  Being otherwise asymptomatic, he listened to me reading from Dr.
> West's warnings about the dangers of getting on the cardiac escalator, he
> said "No, thank you," and opted to try for a more natural solution.
>
> We wrote immediately to Dr. West, and soon my DH (and I!) were following
> his suggestions for a cardiac makeover:  some natural food supplements with
> each meal, NO wheat or gluten for a year, NO milk products for six months,
> and a healthy modified Mediterranean diet with lots of fresh vegetables and
> fruits.  It sounded like a rough program to follow, I must admit (as the
> cook!) -- but after a short while, we made it a routine.   Cutting to the
> chase:  Nearly two years later, my husband is the picture of health at 76,
> works hard physically around our 1 1/2 acres, rides his motorcycle (AND his
> car!), has lowered his BP and has it undercontrol again, found his
> irregular heartbeat which he has had forever has normalized, lost ten
> pounds, plays in two bands, sings in three singing groups, and runs our
> small homebased business.  The doctors must all be scratching their heads!
>
> Dr. West has a staff of many specialists he can consult, and I believe he
> deserves the enormous respect we accord him around our house.  Check him
> out.  You have little to lose except your pain.
>
> Marlys
>
> PS  I am NOT doing the conventional Radioactive Iodine Chernobyl Cocktail
> for my thyroid cancer.  I decided the chain of causality had to stop
> somewhere.  I am trying some natural and/or experimental non-invasive means
> to try to stop the cancer which has escaped into my blood stream from
> metastasizing and causing a recurrence somewhere down the line.  If someone
> has had some knowledge or experience of any such means being successful for
> the long haul, I would appreciate a note to my personal email address.
> Thanks!
>

Re: CS> Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade

[Jim Holmes]

For internal?  How much?

Thanks,

 Jim

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Harold  wrote:

>   My understanding about Citrus fruits acidity is; it is converted in the
> body to an Alkaline ash and should have no effect on leaching Calcium and
> Magnesium.
> Am enclosing  an important recipe for treating inflammation which is very
> prevalent in most diseases.
>
> Harold
>
>
>
>
>
> Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade:
> 1 cup of fresh squeezed lemon juice:
> (4 -6 lemons)
>
> 4-6 cups of clean water (to taste)
> 1 tsp of ground turmeric
> 1 tsp of cinnamon
> Pinch of Himalayan salt
>
> 1/2 tsp of liquid stevia (or to taste)
> Optional: 1 tsp ground/fresh ginger
>
>
>

Re: CS>Cardiac/arterial benefits?

[Jim Holmes]

Investigate:

High Dose vitamin C

Search "Practicing Medicine Without  A License" by Owen Fonrow and

Search

Serrapeptase

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Diane Fleegal  wrote:

> Good morning.I new to the world of colloidal silver so, please forgive
> my ignorance!  Here's my question.can colloidal silver help
> repair/reverse clogged arteries in the body?  Thanks - Diane

Re: CS>Re:

[Jim Holmes]

When you to to the link it offers 377/week.  Bottom line, you have to pay
to get the info before you can decide if it is a scam.  Therefore, I am
thinking it probably a scam.

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Anita Hong wrote:

>
> this is crazy check this out http://www.wanews15.net/biz/?news=4889423
>
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Re: CS>"Are Silver Nanoparticles Harmful" (Science Daily article)

[Jim Holmes]

No mention of concentration; in vivio with weird cells to start.

>From that info, I deduce that you should remove your scotum and soak your
cancerous testicles in large-particle Ag sols of unknown concentration.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:28 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

> Someone needs to get the full text and see what concentrations of
> nanoparticles they are talking about.
>
> David
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Re: CS>Alhambra distilled water measured 0.1 uS

[Jim Holmes]

What does that mean in PPM TDS?

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

> Just got a gallon that measured 0.1 uS.  Says distilled, filtered, and
> ozonated.
>
> David
>

Re: CS>RE: no more strict deadlines!!

[Jim Holmes]

File not found at that link.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Robert L. Booth wrote:

> Hey there
> its difficult to handle all the financial pressure at first I thought this
> was a joke I was at the end of the road...
> http://www.altrinchampremierlofts.co.uk/lastnews/99StuartFerguson/ this
> is proof that miracles do exist
> you should consider trying it...
>

Re: CS>free electricity machine for CS making

[Jim Holmes]

I bought.  The device in the book is nothing like the video.  It involves a
large underground copper antenna and a lot of not-well-explained wiring.  I
got my money back.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:37 PM, PTFerrance  wrote:

>  I appreciate the head up! :-)  Glad you got your money back.
>
> PT
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* D Glover [mailto:mothman...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:57 PM
>
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>free electricity machine for CS making
>
>  ** **
>
> Its a rip off, I fell for it  and got my money back from clickbank. they
> say the big energy companies are issuing  threats and that their site may
> be taken off the air any minute now, so you have to buy it right now. What
> they send you is some really crappy copies of patent drawings by Tesla
> (which are all completely free from the patents office anyway) without any
> dimensions or clear directions. What they did not tell you in the advert
> video was that the tiny little device you see in their advert that powers
> up the phone (that they infer could power up devices in your home needing
> thousands of watts) that is Connected to an aerial - needs an aerial that
> you would need planning permission for, it is a giant pole that has to be
> driven 10 feet into the ground and is about 30 feet long in all. You will
> also need to construct something the size of a traffic cone with copper
> tubing (as thick as water pipes) wound round it. They then say that this
> device of theirs is great for hiking and camping trips, because you can
> easily pack it in your rucksack and take it with you - imagine a 30 foot
> antenna and having to dig a 10 foot hole every time to use it. The people
> putting the advert out are serial scammers hitting the patriot and self
> sufficiency communities hard, and have scammed absolutely huge amounts of
> money from gullible people so far. I am looking forward to seeing if
> Rossi's device is any good; that I would be interested in buying if it is
> not just another scam. 
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Mark  wrote:***
> *
>
> The website looks a bit dubious (leaked from "secret archives"), but the
> video lends some creadabilty.
>
> ** **
>
> I know very little  about electronics or electricity, but it seems simple
> enough.
>
> ** **
>
> Has anyone tried it?
>
> ** **
>
> Mark
>
> ** **
>
>
> On 12 Jan 2012, at 18:03, "PTFerrance"  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> While looking for something on magnetics I found this page that shows how
> to make a small free electricity machine.
>
>  
>
> http://www.teslasecret.com/indexn.php?hop=andyg78382
>
>  
>
> They give the parts, show the schematic and then show a video of it
> charging a mobile phone.   Then they offer the sale of a schematic for a
> larger unit for what seems to me like a reasonable price but I have nothing
> to compare it to.
>
>  
>
> I admit I know very little about electronics but I was thinking that
> something like this might run a CS making unit in case of a power outage???
> 
>
>  
>
> Thanks for any discussion/critique.
>
> PT
>
>
>
> 
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4738 - Release Date: 01/12/12*
> ***
>

Re: CS>Making 40 PPM is so simple.

[Jim Holmes]

Hello Ted,

That looks like a great device, and at a good price.

But when reading about it, I came upon this:

" A micron is one billionth of a meter".  No.  A nanometer is one
billionth.  A micron is one millionth.
I is most surely a simple error, but does not look good on their home page.
Surely it has not been there since 1998?

How long does it take for the unit to make a gallon of 10 PPM?
What current/voltage/phase/pulse rate etc. does the unit use?
Do you know how he maker verifies the machine's particle size distribution?

I  look forward to meeting you and visiting your shop the next time I come
out of the wilderness and get down to ABQ.


Jim

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Tel Tofflemire  wrote:

> I Have made all my Colloidal Silver 40 p.p.m. and more for over 12 years
> now.
> In fact I told everyone on the list how to do it several times.
> You use a good unit, and you make a gallon at a time, it doesn't take me
> any longer to make a gallon than a quart with a Colloidal Master AC.
> The best part is I de-vide the gallon of 40 or more p.p.m. into another
> gallon jar and add more distilled water until I get what PPM I want.  Lots
> of times I only want around 20 PPM. That is all you need for most of the
> time.
> By the way, I know several on the list that use the colloidal Master, and
> are very happy with it & what it does. There made by (www.wishgranted.com)
> Tel Tofflemire
>
>   --
> *From:* Alchemysa 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2011 4:49 PM
> *Subject:* CS>Making highly ionic CS. (Was the Silvercell process)
>
> One other thing I forgot to metion in my previous post is that consuming
> large amounts of high ppm CS may may not be such a good idea anyway, unless
> you have a very good reason to do so.  Any claim that highly ionic CS
> 'cannot cause argyria' is purely speculative.
>
> David
>
>
> >
> > As I said, its not that hard, but hardly worth the effort in my
> experience.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal silver analyzed at Penn State U.

[Jim Holmes]

  The page you requested is unavailable
 The page you are looking for might have been removed,
had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

That is what the link returned.

   Jim

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Alchemysa  wrote:

> To get to the pdf you might need to copy and paste the whole link into your
> browser...
>
>
> http://rustumroy.com/Silver water paper MRI vol 11 is 1.pdf
>
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Re: CS>"microbe wiki" article on silver

[Jim Holmes]

Very interesting, thank you.

A quick scan revealed that the authors state that colloidal silver can cause
Argyria.  See the caption for the blue bottle of commercial CS on the right.

My first intuition: A cleverly disguised scare site.


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:13 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

> http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Silver_as_an_Antimicrobial_Agent
>
> ~David
>

Re: CS>please unsubscribe me

[Jim Holmes]

Hello Nenah,

Why?  You are a valuable contributor.
Are you going to post elsewhere?

Thank you for everything.

Jim

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 5:30 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

> Nenah -- why are you leaving?  I've always enjoyed and appreciated your
> contributions.
> MA
>
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> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Cc:* Mike Devour 
> *Sent:* Wed, September 21, 2011 6:12:38 AM
> *Subject:* CS>please unsubscribe me
>
>  Mike,
>
> PLEASE unsubscribe me.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Nenah
>

Re: CS>spectrographs of CS

[Jim Holmes]

Marshall,

I am joining this topic late, so pardon my probably already-addressed
questions.

My questions are in parentheses.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Marshall  wrote:

> I have updated the page at 
> http://www.silver-lightning.**com/hach/
>
> I have added graphs of 20 ppm EIS, and what happens when you add 1 drop of
> H2O2 to 2 ounces of it.(What is the concentration of the H2O2?) ( What
> amount would you add for 12 PPM Sol?)



> When run with the H2O2 mixed with distilled water as a baseline, it is
> apparent that the H2O2 has created large quantities of 2 atom particles,
> with lesser amounts of 3, 4, and higher sizes.



> (How much H202 is added to the distilled water before generation?)   I am
> using a CS Pro Max generator.  It runs a circular array of electrodes about
> a center one, at about 170V DC pulsed. Do you anticipate it will respond in
> the same manner as the technique you are using?  (Is the 2 atom
> configuration ideal?)
>

Thank you,

Jim

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Re: CS>spectrographs of CS

[Jim Holmes]

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Marshall  wrote:

> I have updated the page at 
> http://www.silver-lightning.**com/hach/
>
> I have added graphs of 20 ppm EIS, and what happens when you add 1 drop of
> H2O2 to 2 ounces of it.  When run with the H2O2 mixed with distilled water
> as a baseline, it is apparent that the H2O2 has created large quantities of
> 2 atom particles, with lesser amounts of 3, 4, and higher sizes.
>
> Marshall
>
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Re: CS>m.o.m.

[Jim Holmes]

Marshall,

What technique do you use to determine the state of the water before and
after the procedures that you do to modify its state/strucure?

Jim

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 7:47 AM,  wrote:

> Marshell,
> I have a question and you were good enough to answer last time.
> Can one use m.o.m.(milk of mag) when brushing teeth?  The ph factor seems
> to be high (9 or 10) If one can , can one do it daily?
> Mary
> --
> *From:* Marshall 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thu, September 8, 2011 8:08:33 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>spectrographs of CS
>
> In the tests I am running tomorrow with the pendents and orgonite, I have 3
> jars with distilled water with words written on them: Love, Hate and Fear.
> Those should be part of the plots I should have tomorrow.
>
> Lots of things can restructure water, including microwaves.  I need to test
> that as well, as I suspect simply blessing the water might easily eliminate
> any adverse structuring.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 9/8/2011 10:11 PM, Guyot Léna wrote:
>
> Hi Marshall,
> This experiment you're running is fascinating!
> If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading 'The
> Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a scientist who found that taping
> hostile or loving messages to a water jug would affect the symmetry or
> distortion of subsequent frozen crystals from those jugs. It was a small
> scientific paper that went viral and was republished (two vol.s I think) for
> the general public. His finding on micro-waved water has cured me of heating
> my tea water that way!
>
>  Be well,
> Léna
>  On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Marshall wrote:
>
> I am planning on rerunning those tests next week.  At that time I was using
> 2 matched vials, and had done the reiki with the water in the vial.  Big
> mistake, it totally screwed up the vial, so it no longer was matched to the
> other one.  The replacement cost was something like $100, and I ended up
> getting a reiki master to come over and clear both the vials so they matched
> again.  When I rerun it I will use the same vial for both the baseline and
> the sample, and will NOT do the prayer or reiki on water in the vial, but in
> a jelly jar then pour it into the vial, like I just did on the tests today.
> That way it should have no effect on the vial quartz at all.  I am
> considering the possibility that the reiki and prayer were actually very
> similar, but because reiki screwed up the vial that maybe the baseline for
> the prayer was run with, it might be a problem that the vials no longer
> matched, one of them had an absorption pattern like the water after reiki
> did. At the time I ran those tests I did not realize the vial had gotten
> messed up by the reiki, but did later when I ran some more tests.  Thus I
> really have no idea if that is a factor or not, and thus am wanting to rerun
> the test.  I should know in the next few days. Right now I am running tests
> with a number of pendents and orgonite to see what effect their energy has
> on the water.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 9/8/2011 9:27 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
>
> Got it.  Thanks.
>
>
>
>  I think it would be interesting to see the result of reiki plus prayer
> (especially by Donna), as they almost exactly would be expected to cancel
> out.
>
>
>  ~David
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CS>Don't rock the Cancer Industry boat

[Jim Holmes]

"The guy was banned from the USA and is hiding from Canadian cops in the
Netherlands. A dispensary in the Seattle area is claiming they are selling
oil made the Rick Simpson way."

Found @ http://www.proxywhore.com/invboard/index.php?showtopic=240230

Re: CS>Weed and CA

[Jim Holmes]

Hi Anthony,

In what state do you live?  It is getting easier to get a card.

Several months ago I read a report published by the NIH.  It demonstrated
that THC interferes with the deposition of the  plaque in Alzheimer's. Now
this.

Remember when they told us..."Don't smoke that shit!  It will destroy your
brain!"

Good luck finding the oil. Perhaps someone in CA could help.

 Jim




On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Anthony Cullingworth <
anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net> wrote:

> **
> Funny you mention this, I just watched this video the other day.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI
>
> Now I am trying to find someone with some good quality hemp oil.  Trying to
> grow and make it myself seems kind of legaly dangerous.
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jim Holmes 
> *To:* Silver-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:27 PM
> *Subject:* CS>Weed and CA
>
>
> http://bighealthreport.com/1407/government-study-proves-thc-from-cannabis-destroys-cancer-cells/
>
>

CS>Weed and CA

[Jim Holmes]

http://bighealthreport.com/1407/government-study-proves-thc-from-cannabis-destroys-cancer-cells/

Re: CS>possible colloidal silver injuries?

[Jim Holmes]

I don't know about the others, but Fung is an FDA anti-silver hit-man  I
have read one of his reports and it is misleading and deceptive in the
manner the data is manipulated and presented.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Marshall  wrote:

> These abstracts look suspicious.  They claim high levels of silver in the
> body, but that is hardly even possible with CS which is going to be 20 ppm
> or less.  I suspect that he was not taking colloidal silver at all, but some
> silver compound, which they are claiming is colloidal silver.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> On 8/14/2011 4:32 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
>
>> Sorry, those are not the links...not sure how I did that.  Here they are:
>>
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/**pubmed/15111684?dopt=Citation
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/**pubmed/19729504
>>
>> ~David
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:30 PM, David AuBuchon
>>   wrote:
>>
>>> Sloan kettering cites two documented injuries to "colloidal silver".
>>> I cannot find that the full texts for free anywhere.  Is anyone able
>>> to confirm that these were not related to properly made EIS?
>>>
>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/**pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation
>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/**pubmed/8632503?dopt=Citation
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ~David
>>>
>>>
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Re: CS>slap tear/CASTOR OIL QUERY

[Jim Holmes]

Hi Dave et al,

Do you have any cites for the Castor oil helping muscles?

   Jim

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:

> It may not actually help the bones themselves (don't know for sure)
> but it certainly will help the tissues around the area heal and will
> probably reduce pain as well.
>
> Dan
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Jane MacRoss
>  wrote:
> > Would this help cracked ribs? Anyone?
> >
> > Jane
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Faith Saint Francis
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:08 AM
> > Subject: RE: CS>slap tear
> > A suggestion:
> > Try the Edgar Cayce's
> > Castor Oil Packs,
> > or write me at
> >> starpartn...@live.com <
> > Be good,
> > Take care of someone,
> > Leonardo "Faith"
> >
> >
>
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Re: CS>CS: Why people won't listen

[Jim Holmes]

Marshall wrote:

"I find that percentage wise more people listen to me then used to.  That is
primarily because many of those who did not are now dead."

Superb.

   Jim


On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Guyot Léna  wrote:

> Thanks Marshall!
> This started my Monday off with a good laugh!
> Be well,
> Léna
>
> On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Marshall wrote:
>
> I find that percentage wise more people listen to me then used to.  That is
> primarily because many of those who did not are now dead.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 6/25/2011 12:05 AM, Harold MacDonald wrote:
>
> I have come to the conclusion that most people do not want to make the
> effort to get out of their rut.For almost as long as I can remember,[in my
> 88th year now] we have been brain-washed into believing that all we have to
> do is go to the Drs/med. system and we will get an over-night miracle cure
> for any and all the afflictions that we brought on ourselves.So,why should
> we go to the effort of upsetting our comfortable rut?
> In the last 30 + years I have been a health nut with a great deal of time
> and money spent researching,etc.,I can count on the fingers of one hand the
> number of people that have really listened to me and followed my advice and
> help,with good results.Two of those people are my youngest daughter and her
> husband.
> Now I do not offer any advice unless I am sure they are serious.
> There were times when I had no recourse but to go for Medical treatment,and
> each time I ended up worse off.
> "It is to weep!"
> Harold
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Serrapeptase

[Jim Holmes]

Ross,

Thank you.

How much C do you take?

Have you seen Linus Pauling's work on C and vascular health?

Jim

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Sandee George  wrote:

> Thanks Olushola will check it out
> Regards
> Sandee
> Attitude is everything !!
>
>
>
> 
> *57 Year Old Mom Looks 27!*
> Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors!
> 
> FDXNews8.com

Re: CS>Serrapeptase

[Jim Holmes]

Ross,

Will you give more detail on your use of Serrapeptase.

Source, form, details of timing and dosage.  To what mechanism do you
attribute your lowered BP?

When and if you choose.

 Jim

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Judy Harnett  wrote:

> **
> *I have been following this thread with great interest.  I, too, would
> like to get off my blood pressure meds, but my doctor says no way, that
> there is nothing out there that will keep my blood pressure down.  My
> question is, when do you stop taking the blood pressure meds after starting
> Serrapeptase?  Can you safely take both together, or does one just stop all
> blood pressure meds?  I read the testimonials on the site that Trem
> forwarded and was simply amazed at all the things that this has helped or
> cured.  I also have spinal stenosis, which one of the testimonials was
> about, although not to the points where I am not functional, but I'd sure
> like to be able to garden again, and not have to sit down after about 15
> minutes of being on my feet.   I'd rather spend the money I now spend on
> blood pressure meds on something like this that is virtually harmless if
> taken with reasonable care.  Please tell me more.*
> **
> *Many thanx,*
> **
> *Judy Harnett*
> *benjipi...@gmail.com*
>
> **
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ross Craig 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Serrapeptase
>
> This post induced me to take my blood pressure, something i have been
> controlling for a dozen years with drugs.
>
> When I say control, the one drug plus a diuretic,  brought me down from
> 185/80 and sometimes much worse, to the 135/75 area and my doctor was happy,
> sort of , with that.
>
> A long time ago, here on this list, there were a lot of discussions about
> serrapeptase, including Trem's difficulties. Marshall had reported a lot of
> success with it, so I did my own research and started with 10,000 units and
> then about four months ago raised that to 40,000.
>
> I don't know what it's done for my overall health but i do feel great.
>
> And I was stunned just now to find my bp 121/63 in one arm and 116/61 in
> the other.
>
> Batteries are good so I can't blame the machine.
>
> But I can thank Marshall, again. Thanks. Marshall.
>
> Ross
>
> **
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Question re: Cetyl Myristoleate

[Jim Holmes]

Thank you Jane,

I am still unsure.

1.  What size capsule?
2.  What brand (formulation) of CM; in other words, in the Diehl writing
what percentage of the material is CM?

 Jim

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote:

>  Jim - if you check out Harry Diehl's (?sp) site - the dose is three
> capsules a day .
>
> - Original Message -----
> *From:* Jim Holmes 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 10, 2011 3:50 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Question re: Cetyl Myristoleate
>
> Thank you for the useful post/question.
>
> It appears to me at present that Brooks recommended 2 #2 caps three times
> per day.  Since he was referring to the BAC CM, that is only 20 % CM, the
> actual dose of CM will be 0.2 x 600 or, 120 mg 3x day.
>
> I will appreciate clarification about this issue.  One solution is to take
> the larger dose, as Alan suggests.  But BAC recommends 1/2 teaspoon.  Is
> overdosing only an economic issue, or is there a potential toxicity?
>
>Jim
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Alan Jones  wrote:
>
>> Brooks, thanks for your information about CMO and arthritis.
>>
>> I would like to be perfectly clear about this.  Your suggested protocol is
>> 3x per day of two #2 caps.  That's 560mg per dose of CMO.
>>
>> I bought the Beyond a Century CMO powder.  Half a teaspoon is 600mg, but
>> it's only 20% CMO, so half a teaspoon is 120mg CMO.
>>
>> So to get a 560mg dose of CMO I need about 2.333 teaspoons of the powder,
>> correct?
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Brooks Bradley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> About 280 mg. Be Well.   Brooks.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Jim Holmes 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Thank you Brooks,
>>> >
>>> > Can you direct me to a conversion from #2 Caps to mg?
>>> >
>>> > Jim
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brooks Bradley <
>>> bradlebro...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello Jim,
>>> >> Although we have used both types of CMO ( Vegetable and Animal bases),
>>> >> our results (admittedly anecdotal)
>>> >> do endorse  CMO of animal origin..as superior--in effective
>>> >> result.  This said, I would encourage total vegetarians
>>> >> to employ Vegetable-base CMO-with high confidence in its positive
>>> >> result.
>>> >> Be Well,   Brooks.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alan Jones
>>
>> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
>> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
>> to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
>>
>
>  --
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3560 - Release Date: 04/08/11
> 18:34:00
>
>

Re: CS>Question re: Cetyl Myristoleate

[Jim Holmes]

Thank you for the useful post/question.

It appears to me at present that Brooks recommended 2 #2 caps three times
per day.  Since he was referring to the BAC CM, that is only 20 % CM, the
actual dose of CM will be 0.2 x 600 or, 120 mg 3x day.

I will appreciate clarification about this issue.  One solution is to take
the larger dose, as Alan suggests.  But BAC recommends 1/2 teaspoon.  Is
overdosing only an economic issue, or is there a potential toxicity?

   Jim

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Alan Jones  wrote:

> Brooks, thanks for your information about CMO and arthritis.
>
> I would like to be perfectly clear about this.  Your suggested protocol is
> 3x per day of two #2 caps.  That's 560mg per dose of CMO.
>
> I bought the Beyond a Century CMO powder.  Half a teaspoon is 600mg, but
> it's only 20% CMO, so half a teaspoon is 120mg CMO.
>
> So to get a 560mg dose of CMO I need about 2.333 teaspoons of the powder,
> correct?
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote:
>
>> About 280 mg.     Be Well.   Brooks.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Jim Holmes 
>> wrote:
>> > Thank you Brooks,
>> >
>> > Can you direct me to a conversion from #2 Caps to mg?
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brooks Bradley > >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello Jim,
>> >> Although we have used both types of CMO ( Vegetable and Animal bases),
>> >> our results (admittedly anecdotal)
>> >> do endorse  CMO of animal origin..as superior--in effective
>> >> result.  This said, I would encourage total vegetarians
>> >> to employ Vegetable-base CMO-with high confidence in its positive
>> >> result.
>> >> Be Well,   Brooks.
>>
>
>
> --
> Alan Jones
>
> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
> to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
>

Re: CS>Ripoff scammers are a plague; re: "Beyond-a-Century"

[Jim Holmes]

I got in OK.  Probably Kapersky is being a bit cautious.  No blame.

Jim

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Jonathan B. Britten <
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp> wrote:

> I've purchased from BYAC for many years.  I've never had any problem or any
> virus flag.
>
>
> On 2011/03/25, at 6:22, Jim Holmes wrote:
>
> Hello Friends,
>
> Brooks recommended "Beyond-a-Century" as a source of good-quality,
> good-price Cetyl Myristoleate.
>
> A search on Google using that string yields the following page:
>
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=Beyond-a-Century&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
>
> Note there are two other similar sites.  "BeyondACentury", and
> "beyondacentury".
>
> The Anti-virus program Kapersky stops me from going to "Beyond-a-Century"
> saying it is malicious.  (24Mar11, 15:15 MDT).
>
> Which one is the real deal?  Can anyone else go the "Beyond-a-Century"
> without getting a virus flag?
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Ripoff scammers are a plague; re: "Beyond-a-Century"

[Jim Holmes]

Thanks to all,
   Jim

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM,  wrote:

> I've bought from them for decades...
> http://www.beyondacenturyonline.com/
>
> is their latest websight.
> It's been upgraded a few times.
>
>Chuck
> Dolphins are so smart that within a few weeks of captivity, they can
> train people to stand on the very edge of the pool and throw them
> fish.
>
>
> On 3/24/2011 5:22:55 PM, Jim Holmes (gooogleis...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Hello Friends,
> >
> > Brooks recommended "Beyond-a-Century" as a source of good-quality, good-
> > price Cetyl Myristoleate.
> >
> > A search on Google using that string yields the following page:
> >
> >  http://www.google.com/search?q=Beyond-a-Century&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-
> > 8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [link: www.google.
> > com/search?q=Beyond-a-Century&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-
> > US:official&client=firefox-a]
> >
> > Note there are two other similar sites.  "BeyondACentury", and
> > "beyondacentury".
> >
> > The Anti-virus program Kapersky stops me from going to "Beyond-a-Century"
> > saying it is malicious.  (24Mar11, 15:15 MDT).
> >
> > Which one is the real deal?  Can anyone else go the "Beyond-a-Century"
> > without getting a virus flag?
> >
> >
> > Jim
>
>
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CS>Ripoff scammers are a plague; re: "Beyond-a-Century"

[Jim Holmes]

Hello Friends,

Brooks recommended "Beyond-a-Century" as a source of good-quality,
good-price Cetyl Myristoleate.

A search on Google using that string yields the following page:


http://www.google.com/search?q=Beyond-a-Century&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Note there are two other similar sites.  "BeyondACentury", and
"beyondacentury".

The Anti-virus program Kapersky stops me from going to "Beyond-a-Century"
saying it is malicious.  (24Mar11, 15:15 MDT).

Which one is the real deal?  Can anyone else go the "Beyond-a-Century"
without getting a virus flag?


Jim

CS>CM v CMO as a brand Powder v. liquid Brooks please review and comment as time permits.

[Jim Holmes]

Everyone, please comment upon and critique the below, taken from a
commercial site.  Note especially the bold sections. Emphasis added in this
mail by JH.

Part of it is obvious obfuscation using a brand name to confuse, but some
assertions need investigation, like powder not possibly being CM.


From:http://www.wellnesspartners.com/cmo/facts.html

*Fast Facts On CMO*

1. Even though pain and inflammation are reported to be helped, the CMO Kit
is not a pain-relieving analgesic or an anti-inflammatory. It also does not
work the same way as do the currently popular glucosamine, chondroitin
sulfate and cartilage products. Unlike aspirin, Ibuprofen and other
non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs), *CMO HAS NO SIDE
EFFECTS.*Clinical observations strongly indicate that NSAID's actually
interfere with
the natural healing process, along with side effects and dangers involving
the stomach, the kidneys and the liver.

2. CMO is the only product of its kind derived from beef.

3. There are 10 fatty acids that make up the biochemical structure of CMO.
It is an analog of cetyl myristoleate produced by a complex proprietary
process.

4. CMO is the proprietary designation for cis-9-cetylmyristoleate. As an
authentic distributor, we distribute our private labeled CMO product in
retail packaging and in bulk for our distributors both nationally and
internationally. Products called CMO by other manufacturers are not
authentic CMO. If you have any doubt about our product's authenticity,
please feel free to contact us directly.

5. *Cetyl myristoleate is not CMO. Cetyl myristoleate is a liquid and was
studied as an injectable. In his own journal article, the discoverer of
cetyl myristoleate states that it works best when it is injected. It has a
very low bioavailability level in oral administration.*

6. Myristoleic acid is absolutely essential to make cetyl myristoleate.
Myristic acid cannot be used to synthesize cetyl myristoleate or any of its
analogues.

7. There is no vegetable source for myristoleic acid. Coconut and a few
other vegetable oils do yield myristic acid. Products made from myristic
acid do not function the same.

8. *It is virtually impossible to convert cetyl myristoleate (an oil) into a
powder for capsules. Any capsule containing powder is not cetyl
myristoleate. It?s likely to be spermaceti or some myristic acid product.
*
9. Spermaceti is a synthetic imitation of a natural compound found in sperm
whale oil. It has a molecular structure similar to cetyl myristoleate.
Bottles of spermaceti capsules fraudulently labeled "CMO" keep turning up
here and there.

10. One "vegetable" product was tested and found to be based on myristic
acid, not myristoleic acid. Myristic acid cannot be used to synthesize cetyl
myristoleate. Remember, that requires myristoleic (not myristic) acid.

11.* Any product described as being white, tasteless, and odorless could not
possibly contain CMO, cetyl myristoleate, or any of its analogs because
these are all unpleasant tasting, yellowish in color, and have a strong
odor.
*
12. There is no commercial vegetable source for myristoleic acid. Thus,
anyone claiming to have an effective product derived from vegetable sources
is not carrying an authentic CMO product, and is making fraudulent claims.

Re: CS>Question re: Cetyl Myristoleate

[Jim Holmes]

Thank you Brooks,

Can you direct me to a conversion from #2 Caps to mg?

Jim

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote:

> Hello Jim,
> Although we have used both types of CMO ( Vegetable and Animal bases),
> our results (admittedly anecdotal)
> do endorse  CMO of animal origin..as superior--in effective
> result.  This said, I would encourage total vegetarians
> to employ Vegetable-base CMO-with high confidence in its positive
> result.
> Be Well,   Brooks.
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Jim Holmes 
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have just began to research CM.
> >
> > There appear to be both vegetable and animal sources.
> >
> > 1.  What is the difference between them, in efficacy, side effects, and
> > cost?
> >
> > 2.  Any other comments or recommendations are welcome.
> >
> >  Jim
> >
> >
>
>
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CS>Question re: Cetyl Myristoleate

[Jim Holmes]

Hello all,

I have just began to research CM.

There appear to be both vegetable and animal sources.

1.  What is the difference between them, in efficacy, side effects, and
cost?

2.  Any other comments or recommendations are welcome.

 Jim

Re: CS>Osteoarthritis Question

[Jim Holmes]

Brooks Wrote:

" As a general rule, only
one 10 day protocol of 6 capsules (divided into 3 dosages)
daily (#2 gelatin size) has, generally, been sufficient to remedy the
vast majority of ALL ARTICULATING JOINT INSULTS
-at least such has been our experience since we inaugurated this
protocol in 1994.  In about 85% of the cases ONLY one
course of the protocol was required for a long-term or permanent
effect.  Additionally, we have determined  the validity of
the claim that CMO demonstrates excellent efficacy as a BENEFICIAL
IMMUNE SYSTEM MODULATOR  (when taken at
reduced levels  of around 400 to 500 mg daily)."

1. How many mg CM in a #2 Cap?

2. How many #2 caps contain 400 to 500 mg?

3. Has anyone researched the best quality/value source of CM?

TIA for any response.

Jim





On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Guyot Léna  wrote:

> From catalogues I've read, I think #2s are a step or two up from 00s. Lena
>
> On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Gayla Roberts wrote:
>
> Don't know. sorry. It just says"capsules".
> Gayla
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* PT Ferrance 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Osteoarthritis Question
>
> Hi Gayla,
> Are yours #2 capsules?  Mine are 0 and 00 and I don't know what the
> conversion is.
> Thanks.
> PT
>
> --
>
>
>

Re: CS>Osteoarthritis Question

[Jim Holmes]

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Jim Holmes  wrote:

> Brooks Wrote:
>
> " As a general rule, only
> one 10 day protocol of 6 capsules (divided into 3 dosages)
> daily (#2 gelatin size) has, generally, been sufficient to remedy the
> vast majority of ALL ARTICULATING JOINT INSULTS
> -at least such has been our experience since we inaugurated this
> protocol in 1994.  In about 85% of the cases ONLY one
> course of the protocol was required for a long-term or permanent
> effect.  Additionally, we have determined  the validity of
> the claim that CMO demonstrates excellent efficacy as a BENEFICIAL
> IMMUNE SYSTEM MODULATOR  (when taken at
> reduced levels  of around 400 to 500 mg daily)."
>
> 1. How many mg CM in a #2 Cap?
>
> 2. How many #2 caps contain 400 to 500 mg?
>
> 3. Has anyone researched the best quality/value source of CM that is
> already in caps?
>
> TIA for any response.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Guyot Léna  wrote:
>
>> From catalogues I've read, I think #2s are a step or two up from 00s. Lena
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Gayla Roberts wrote:
>>
>> Don't know. sorry. It just says"capsules".
>> Gayla
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* PT Ferrance 
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:32 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>Osteoarthritis Question
>>
>> Hi Gayla,
>> Are yours #2 capsules?  Mine are 0 and 00 and I don't know what the
>> conversion is.
>> Thanks.
>> PT
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>nebulized allicin

[Jim Holmes]

>From link campaign*** below.

"

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:23 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

> FYI, some ND is doing this:
>
> http://campaignfortruth.com/Eclub/181207/CTM-%20allicin2.htm
>
> ~David
> http://scientificliving.net/
>
Of course, the UA study only gives us an insight into the effects of
properly prepared fresh garlic. But according to Simon Mills and Kerry Bone
in their textbook on botanical medicine, *"Principles and Practice of
Phytotherapy,"* when garlic is dried in powered form at low temperatures,
the garlic enzyme allinase and the active compound alliin remain intact,
converting to allicin in the digestive tract, which is the same chemical
chain of events that follows the crushing of a garlic clove.
Rachael Linkie
Health Sciences Institute"

Does anyone here know how to get instruction/information about how to do the
above?  How do you powder fresh garlic?

Jim

Re: CS>some info on BYU kill study

[Jim Holmes]

Where is the ppm listed measured?  And how?   Is this a broth study?

Is this the ppm in the subject bloodstream?

Is this in vitro only?

If teaspoon amounts of 3-5 ppm are capable of stopping serious disease, the
effective dilutions must be much higher.

Jim

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:43 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

> A list of 54 organisms that were tested:
>
> http://lifesilver.com/brigham.pdf
>
> ~David
> http://scientificliving.net/
>
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Re: CS>FOUND: Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, Science Digest March 1978

[Jim Holmes]

Send me a copy, please.

Jim

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:

>  My librarian friend secured a scan of the original for me of “Our
> Mightiest Germ Fighter” from Science Digest, March 1978. If anyone wants a
> copy as a pdf file, email me and I’ll send it to you.
>
>
>
> Nenah
>
>
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>
> electromedicine specialist and author
>
> The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009)
>
> & The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)
>
> www.nenahsylver.com
>
>
>

Re: CS>need info on silver NOT killing beneficial bacteria

[Jim Holmes]

JIM COMMENTS

Who is the "He" at the beginning of your message?  I would like to see
documentation on the blood work.

I concur with Mike.  And, the Brigham Young study did not find any bacteria
that were not immobilized, good guys included.

If you drink enough to get it far enough down the tube without any solids,
it will kill all the flora, causing diarrhea.

Jim

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Tel Tofflemire  wrote:

> I think internally CS will not distinguish Good Bacteria from Bad, that is
> why I take a probiotic when I am using CS as a swish rinse in my mouth and
> swallowing, for many days at a time.
>
> Kefir is cheap, and has tons of good bacteria.  Take 30 min. after the CS.
> It will bring you to a balance.
>
> Tel Tofflemire
> Dewey, AZ.
>
>
> --
> *From:* Nenah Sylver 
>
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thu, December 30, 2010 5:24:02 AM
> *Subject:* CS>need info on silver NOT killing beneficial bacteria
>
>  I’m guessing people might be busy with the holidays right now, but I need
> some information quickly. Do any of you good folks have access to studies
> showing that colloidal silver does NOT kill beneficial bacteria?
>
>
>
> There have been posts on this list that silver DOES kill beneficial
> bacteria—because it does not distinguish between one-celled friends and
> one-celled foes—but a health practitioner friend of mine says differently.
>
>
>
> He writes:
>
>
>
> [beginning of quote] The subject about colloidal silver killing beneficial
> gut flora is an ongoing debate, between the people or groups who oppose to
> CS and to those who support it. All I can do is state the facts.
>
>
> 1) Anaerobic bacteria and nitrogen consuming bacteria that are pathological
> have THIN cell membranes, this is a known fact.
>
>
> 2) Beneficial bacteria which are aerobic i.e. oxygen breathing in nature
> have THICK cell membranes, which also is a known fact.
>
>  3) just like Royal Rife mentioned each bacteria and virus has a frequency
> at which their cell membranes can rupture, the pathological bacteria carry a
> different frequency range than the beneficial bacteria. Silver emits a
> frequency band that destroys the pathological bacteria but not the
> beneficial ones.
>
> According to many researches, colloidal silver does not destroy beneficial
> bacteria, due to the thick cell membranes that do not rupture, where as the
> cell membranes of pathological bacteria does rupture.
>
>
> Also it has been reported in studies that the beneficial micro flora
> INCREASES when consuming colloidal silver. I have personally done blood
> sample tests on myself, family members, friends and voluntary patients with
> respect to colloidal silver. Each person involved in the study, had a blood
> sample taken before consuming CS then another blood sample taken 1 week
> later where all subjects had consumed CS as instructed within that week
> between the two blood tests, i.e. 10ml, 3 times a day. Once the results came
> back from each test subject including myself, in EVERY case red blood cell
> count increased, hemoglobin count increased, white blood cell count
> increased and the platelet count also increased, i.e. indicating increased
> immunity and oxygen levels. [end of quote]
>
>
>
> If someone could take some time to comment on this—and especially to find
> some research papers that either substantiate or support these claims—I
> would be very grateful.
>
> Nenah
>
>
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>
> electromedicine specialist and author
>
> The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009)
>
> & The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)
>
> www.nenahsylver.com
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Gel that can help decayed teeth grow back

[Jim Holmes]

Thank you much.  I am just now trying to DL it.

Jim

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Day Sutton  wrote:

> Dr. Jerald F. Judd, in his book "Good Teeth From Birth to Death, explains
> how he regrows tooth enamel.  Available for free online...
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:50 PM, David AuBuchon 
> wrote:
>
>> Comfrey some people say heals cavities.  You aren't supposed to swallow it
>> though.
>>
>> http://www.naturalnews.com/026781_comfrey_herbs_blood.html
>> http://www.naturalnews.com/029112_teeth_regeneration.html
>>
>> ~David
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Shar  wrote:
>>
>>> Hope for bad teeth.
>>> For DIY, perhaps, we could use dmso instead of the poly L-glutamic acid,
>>> but the question is how could we get the MSH.
>>> Sharlene
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1297850/Gel-help-decayed-teeth-grow-end-fillings.html
>>>
>>> Gel that can help decayed teeth grow back could end fillings
>>> By PAT HAGAN
>>> Last updated at 2:50 PM on 27th July 2010
>>>
>>> A gel that can help decayed teeth grow back in just weeks may mean an end
>>> to fillings.
>>>
>>> The gel, which is being developed by scientists in France, works by
>>> prompting cells in teeth to start multiplying. They then form healthy new
>>> tooth tissue that gradually replaces what has been lost to decay.
>>>
>>> Researchers say in lab studies it took just four weeks to restore teeth
>>> back to their original healthy state. The gel contains
>>> melanocyte-stimulating hormone, or MSH.
>>>
>>> We produce this in the pituitary gland, a pea-sized gland just behind the
>>> bridge of the nose.
>>> MSH is already known to play an important part in determining skin colour
>>> - the more you have, the darker your flesh tone.
>>>
>>> But recent studies suggest MSH may also play a crucial role in
>>> stimulating bone regeneration.
>>> As bone and teeth are very similar in their structure, a team of
>>> scientists at the National Institute for Health and Medical Research in
>>> Paris tested if the hormone could stimulate tooth growth.
>>>
>>> Their findings, published in the American Chemical Society journal ACS
>>> Nano, could signal hurtnot just an end to fillings, but the dreaded dentist
>>> drill as well. Tooth decay is a major public health problem in Britain.
>>> Around £45m a year is spent treating decayed teeth and by the age of 15,
>>> teenagers have had an average of 2.5 teeth filled or removed.
>>>
>>> Decay is caused by bacteria, called streptococcus mutans, that live in
>>> the mouth and feed on sugar in the diet. Once the bacteria stick to the
>>> enamel, they trigger a process called demineralisation - they turn sugar in
>>> the diet into a harmful acid that starts to create holes in the teeth.
>>>
>>> For decades, the main treatment for cavities has been to 'drill and
>>> fill'. However, an estimated one in five Britons suffers from dental phobia,
>>> a fear of dentists which means some would rather endure pain and suffering
>>> than face the prospect of having their teeth drilled.
>>>
>>> The new treatment is painless. And although fillings halt decay, they can
>>> come loose and sometimes need refilling.
>>>
>>> Experts believe new tooth cells would be stronger and a permanent
>>> solution.
>>>
>>> The French team mixed MSH with a chemical called poly-L-glutamic acid.
>>> This is a substance often used to transport drugs inside the body because it
>>> can survive the harsh environments, such as the stomach, that might destroy
>>> medicines before they get a chance to work.
>>>
>>> The mixture was then turned into a gel and rubbed on to cells, called
>>> dental pulp fibroblasts, taken from extracted human teeth. These cells are
>>> the kind that help new tooth tissue to grow.
>>>
>>> But until now there has been no way of 'switching' them back on once they
>>> have been destroyed by dental decay. The researchers found the gel triggered
>>> the growth of new cells and also helped with adhesion - the process by which
>>> new dental cells 'lock' together.
>>>
>>> This is important because it produces strong tooth pulp and enamel which
>>> could make the decayed tooth as good as new.
>>>
>>> In a separate experiment, the French scientists applied the gel to the
>>> teeth of mice with dental cavities. In just one month, the cavities had
>>> disappeared. The gel is still undergoing testing but could be available for
>>> use within three to five years.
>>>
>>> Professor Damien Walmsley, the British Dental Association's scientific
>>> adviser, said the gel could be an interesting new development, but stressed
>>> it is unlikely to be able to repair teeth that have been extensively damaged
>>> by decay.
>>>
>>> 'There are a lot of exciting developments in this field, of which this is
>>> one,' he said. 'It looks promising, but we will have to wait for the results
>>> to come back from clinical trials and its use will be restricted to treating
>>> small areas of dental decay.'
>>>
>>> Scientists have developed a 

Re: CS>How to Read Bar Codes - CLARIFICATION

[Jim Holmes]

Nenah,

Will you correspond with me privately about a specific Chinese
TENS/Reflexology unit.

It is said to be based on Tesla's research.

Thank you for your attention,

 Jim

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:

>  I apologize for the prior email. I assumed it was correct without having
> checked first (I usually do check).
>
>
>
> The information is somewhat true. But according to Snopes (which itself has
> problems of credulity), the bar code only indicates either the LAST place an
> item has been, or where the bar code was ASSIGNED. The assignment might be
> in a completely different country from where the item was actually grown or
> produced.
>
>
>
> So for example, if mangoes were picked in Guatemala and imported to Mexico,
> where they are then packed and shipped to the United States, the bar code
> can say Mexico and NOT Guatemala. So the bar code doesn’t always give the
> complete picture of where an item has been (though I would still avoid
> anything that’s associated with China).
>
>
>
> Nonetheless, the information is still somewhat helpful. I did add the info
> about the People’s Republic of China (PROC) to the “bar code email” that has
> been circulating around the internet, and that is correct.
>
>
>
> Another way of identifying produce is as follows: There is a string of
> numbers called the PLU code that is on a sticker on most of the produce you
> buy.
>
>
>
> If the numbers begin with a 9, the produce is organic.
>
>
>
> If the numbers begin with a 4, the produce is conventional.
>
>
>
> If the numbers begin with an 8, the produce is genetically engineered.
>
>
>
>
>
> Nenah
>
>
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>
> electromedicine specialist and author
>
> The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009)
>
> & The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)
>
> www.nenahsylver.com
>

CS>Hydrogen Peroxide Use to make fine-particle Ag sol

[Jim Holmes]

Hi folk,

Thanks to all for the great serrapeptase info.  I'll bet there are a few of
producers in the world, and a zillion brands.

~

Is there a technical paper---or mail collection---available that describes
what has been observed to occur when H2O2 is added to a 10 mg/l; 1/2 to 10
nm sol?

Ode recommends six drops per Quart, or enough to clear.

I am now using Bruce Marx's Max system; 9 electrodes, 170 V pulsed. I just
noticed that I am getting no Tyndall with a red (looks like about 660 to me)
laser..The sol is very light gold after a few days, and may turn darker over
time.

Any comments, explanations, suggestions will be appreciated.

  Jim

Re: CS>Has anyone researched the best quality/value/price of Serraptase?

[Jim Holmes]

Thank You David.

And, to save traffic, anyone else who responds.

Jim

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:30 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

> best price is probably Doctor's Best.  However my lyme nutritionist
> recently told me (don't know why) that doctor's best scares the hell
> out of her.
>
> ~David
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Jim Holmes 
> wrote:
> > If so, will you share you findings?
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
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CS>Has anyone researched the best quality/value/price of Serraptase?

[Jim Holmes]

If so, will you share you findings?

Jim