Re: CS>ot:diabetes and zappers/msm prices
Mary wrote: > > Many type 2's seem to be cured on a low carb diet. There is a low carb > diabetes list, check it out. > > At 12:18 PM 6/1/99 -0400, you wrote: > >She claims that it will. My wife is diebetic and may have been helped, but > >she > >has not been cured. Edgar Cayce recommended Jeruslem artichokes for diabetes, as a natural form of insulin. Ron Brennen > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>parasites-OT
teri...@aol.com wrote: > > What is the best known and easiest product for getting rid of parasites in > human body and can it be taken by animals too? sorry if this has been covered > in the past. thankyou teri. Edgar Cayce's remedy for parasites was an apple diet. Eat nothing but apples for three days, then drink 1/2 cup extra virgin olive oil. Cayce specified Jonathon or red delicious, since Jonathon is out of season that leaves only red delicious. Ron Brennen > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Viruses on the Brain
Michael Anthony wrote: > > Their was an article on ABC News that interested me in relation to CS. > Does anyone on the list have any experience with relief of mental > illness symptoms from taking CS? > > To read that article go to the bottom of the page at > http://more.abcnews.go.com/onair/closerlook/wnt990607_mental.html > > Michael Anthony Colloidal gold is for the brain. Ron Brennen > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and cancer
Michael Giammarino wrote: > > Some people believe that cancer is caused by a bacteria or virus. > > If that is the case, has CS been used to treat cancer, what types, > what results. > > If it is bacteria based, then the CS should kill it ? > > Thanks, > > Mike Dr. Bjorn Nordstrom of the Karolinska Institute in Sweden has used silver in his cancer cure method for many years. He says the whole thing is quite simple, through rapid remission in patients given up by other doctors. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS 5ppm vs 20 ppm
Michael Giammarino wrote: > > started using store purchased 5 ppm CS. worked great for stomach > bacteria and allergy symtoms. > > started making my own with a cs pro kit. 20 ppm, should be better, but > I do not feel as good using it. > > its clear while the first was a light yellow. > > I had a lot of energy on the 5 ppm and now i feel not so good on the > 20 ppm. > > less energy, sore top of mouth, tired, irritable. > > any idea's > > thanks mike I also found the same results with 5-10 PPM as opposed to higher PPM. There maybe a homeopathic action taking place with the lower PPM. CS seems to have other subtle effects in addition to its antibiotic effects. Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Ozone,Nitrogen,OT
Hi all, Does anyone know whether the ozonators using air instead oxygen in the production of ozone are harmful? Since air contains only 20% oxygen only 20% ozone can be produced what about the 78% of nitrogen mixed with UV (nitrous oxide?) Is this harmful to the respritory system? Thanks for any info. Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>No Subject
bober...@postoffice.swbell.net wrote: > > Hi Ivan; > You are absolutely correct. I have made 43 ppm clear CS with my low voltage > gen. It has been sitting in one of my famous clear coke bottles for about > nine weeks with no color appearing and no dropout. > > Robert Do you get a strong tyndal with clear CS? Ron Brennen > Ivan Anderson wrote: > > > Marshall wrote: > > > > > Longer means higher ppm means bigger particles. Once you get to > > about 5 ppm we > > > find that additional ppm almost all goes into bigger particles, not > > more > > > particles. > > > > Marshall, > > you seem to deal in absolutes a bit to readilly ;-) > > > > I take that you believe that the colour of a silver colloid is a > > 'reflection' of its particle size, and that a water-clear sol > > indicates the smallest size. > > > > Then how can my small DC units produce clear CS at 20ppm and higher as > > measured by the Ion Selective Electrode method? > > > > C'mon mate, the fact that you can not or do not does not necessarily > > apply universally. > > > > Ivan. > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS for Epilepsy?
jneno...@aol.com wrote: > > Has anyone used CS for Epilepsy? My father has grand mal seizures and has > tried about everything, even drugs won't control it. > > Just asking...it would be really helpful if any could respond. Anyone aware > of forums for Epilepsy? > Susan L Try Colloidal Gold. Ron Brennen > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Calcium deposits
patty wolfe wrote: > > Hello, > my daughter is having calcium deposits building up in her body...she > had 2 or 3 come up on her face after her child was born about 6 years > ago...recently she was having pain in her side and they found calcium > building up in the tissue between her ribs...she also has a spur on > her heel...now she is having pain in her legs and feet...is there > anything CS can do for this problem? does anyone know what could > cause this? all the doctor did was prescribe her an arthritis > medicine that is new but she stopped taking it when she heard some bad > reports about it...he didn't prescribe any other kind of > treatment...could it be a uric acid problem? any help will be > appreciated... > thanks in advance Dr. Jarvis wrote a book about UNPASTURIZED apple cider vinegar curing calcium buildup. The latest info is that any form of calcium supplements result in all the conditions you mention. It seems the body wants to make it's own calcium from silica. Pasturized milk is especially bad for the body. Hopes this helps, Ron Brennen -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Calcium deposits
Tom Young wrote: > > Great!... and has everyone noticed how just recently, all the food > manufacturers are pumping extra calcium into almost everything they make, > claiming it will "help your bones!"? > WHAT precipitated this sudden nonsense? > Ignorant marketing hype or deliberate intent to feed the public illness > industry? > > Also, I thought I read somewhere that calcium MUST be accompanied by some > other substance to be absorbed properly? > Tom First it was vitamin D and then magnesium. These subsistances were used to try to force the body to accept the calcium supplements. Regards, Ron > RON BRENNEN wrote: > > > The latest info is that any form of calcium > > supplements result in all the conditions you mention. It seems the > > body wants to make it's own calcium from silica. Pasturized milk is > > especially bad for the body. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Calcium deposits
Marsha Hallett wrote: > > >Phosphorus is found in many foods and beverages. > > Especially in colas, which have a triple whammy of caffeine, sugar, (a LOT > of it, 14 teaspoons in a can of Coke), and phosphoric acid. > I`m paying for my former coca cola addiction, I now have 7 crowns in my > mouth. > Expensive addiction that was... > Marsha You should see what the phosphoric does to your gut, (scar tissue) Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>RE: HELP needed! Getting Silver stains off Formica counter tops
Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > At 01:48 PM 7/11/99 EDT, you wrote: > >I have spilled some CS on a Formica counter top and can't get the stains > out. > >I have tried peroxide and that helped slightly but the stains are still > quite > >evident. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Carol > >~ > i SCRUBBED AND SCRUBBED WITH BON AMI AND IT WORKED ABOUT 80%. Try potassium permanganate. Ron > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>[CS] DMSO as transport mech
jmarsh4...@aol.com wrote: > > Marshall, > Joint problem, I guess. When I bend my fingers toward the palm, they stick > down and I have to pull them up. Ouch! Now my thumbs are aching fiercely. I > am now taking MSM, condroitin, magnesium, B6, glucosomine sulfate,and Cetyl > Myristoleate. Will start calcium now too. Thanks. janet Don't take calcium, this may be the cause of the problem. The body rejects calcium suppements. It prefers making it's own from silica Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Samm..water ionizer
Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > > > >I found a water ionizer at a Korean Food Store for $59. The box says one > >side of the machine (which looks somewhat like a coffee maker) makes acidic > >water and the other makes alkaline. Would this be a good thing to have? > >Sound like a good price? I can research this, I just thought I'd ask here > >first. Thanks. > >Samm > >~~~ > Geez louise girlfriend, you may be onto a goldmine here if these things > work. Boy do I want one (Looks like Susan beat me to the extra one...) How > can this work for $59 and the one's on the market are $1,000? How can we > find out? How can we go into business and make a million? Inquiring minds > want to know... > > Ask him if he can order more...Pulleeezzz I would like one too. Ron Brennen > ~^^V^^~ > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Calcium deposits/water ionizer?/bought one
Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > So, does this sound > >like a real water ionizer? I have no experience with them whatsoever. > >Samm > >~~~ > I guess the "proof in the pudding" will be checking the water to see the pH. > > ~^^V^^~ Where can I get one? Ron > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>colloidal gold
Piper wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what CG is used for, I bought some yesterday at > remarkable prices at GNC. CG is used for arthritis, skin ulcers, burns, nerve damage, unstable mental and emotional states, depression, autism, Alzheimer's etc. CG has a direct effect on the rythmic, balancing, healing activity of the heart muscle itself as it impacts and increases blood circulation. It is highly beneficial in rejuvenating sluggish organs especially the brain as gold is the best electrical conductor yet recognized for carrying nerve charges. The proper use of gold and silver has the potential to double your life span. Edgar Cayce Hope this helps some. Ron Brennen > - Original Message - > From: Tom Trauberman > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 2:53 PM > Subject: CS>colloidal gold > > > Today I made CG. Here is how I did it. I snapped 10 - 9 volt batteries > > together, I hooked the + & - terminals with alligator clips to 2- 22 > > gauge 24 carat wires each 6 inches long. In 6 inches of dw I rubbed the > > wires together causing continuous arching. After 5 minutes I checked > > tyndal with a laser pointer and saw a good beam through the solution. > > The batteries were heating up so I ended. The solution has a light > > golden color. Does anyone know if this can be taken with CS and if so > > are there any timing/sequences that need to be followed? > > > > Tom > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Alkaline water Device
fedtol...@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > Hi, > I have Sang Whang's book called "Reverse Aging" that discusses ph levels. > He believes many diseases start or are caused by the acidic levels of our > body ph produced from our diets.To be brief, he suggests " drinking 5 > glasses of 10 ph water daily will graduallly lower the bodies acidity and > enable the body to dispose of all the waste products produced daily and > then some. Drinking inonized alkaline water is much better than taking > alkalline mineral tablets such as calcuim tablets." > > Sounds like the water you are getting would meet his approval with a ph of > 9-10! > Diana Most people with cancer are highly alkalized. Ron Brennen > -- > > From: samma...@aol.com > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Alkaline water Device > > Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 1:00 AM > > > > In a message dated 99-07-11 02:29:23 EDT, you write: > > > > > Hey, > > > That sounds like a great price!! I have followed different threads > about > > > this subject and it seems it is quite a good thing to do. Someone > recently > > > explained the principle of just how it worked and that was very > > > interesting. However, I think I looked in on a site and the price was > > > exorbitant, and I believe that this product was made in China. So, > let me > > > know what you find out. I don't have many resources up here. Wonder > if > > > they ship these out? Have you actually seen one to see the quality > and > > > such as that. > > > > > > I'm interested for one. Thanks for the info! > > > Susan > > > > Hi Susan, > > > > He had two at the store, collecting dust. I didn't pull the one out > of > > the box, but saw the top of it. The instructions and explanations were > all > > in Korean except for one brief overview in English. I can ask if he will > > > ship one. Overall, it looked like a nice double-barrelled coffee maker. > I > > *thought* that sounded like a good price. Admittedly, I didn't pay much > > attention to the discussion of ionized water when it was going on a few > weeks > > back. I'll be down his way this Wednesday or the next Wednesday. I'll > > inquire about the shipping -- to see if it's a possibility. :) > > Samm > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS.....shingles
donna2...@aol.com wrote: > > Hi everyone, > Can someone tell me if they had any success with shingles while using CS? > Or if anyone has any suggestions it would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Donna Unpasturized apple cider vinegar is very effective. Ron > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Alkaline water Device
Ivan Anderson wrote: > > > > > Most people with cancer are highly alkalized. > > Ron Brennen > > What brings you to this conclusion, Ron? > > Ivan. People with cancer have lost their appetite due to a lack of hydrochloric acid. Hydrochloric acid is necessary for the production of white blood cells (immune system). I have often wondered if giving a cancer patient hydrochloric acid would cure the cancer. Food for thought. Ron > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bladder infection
Ivan Anderson wrote: > > Tom, > > If that does not work, then you may need to obtain some Mild Silver > Protein (MSP). > As colloidal silver is mostly eliminated via the bowel not much is > found in the urine. MSP on the other hand is silver colloid stabilised > with a protein, and when that protein is EDTA the colloid is then > eliminated in the urine. I have read of positive results in resolving > bladder infections with MSP when CS did not work, on this list. > > Ivan Can MSP be made at home with CS? Ron > > > My mother-in law has a bladder infection for which I made her > > > a gallon of CS. Is there a specific protecol that will help > > > her. She has had this condition for some time. Her doctors > > > say they can help her but not cure her. > > > > > > Tom > > > > My uncle cleared up his bladder infection that doctors > > ahd been unable to do anything about in just 3 days > > with CS. > > > > Protocol? Drink a bunch of it throughout the day for a > > couple of weeks. It won't hurt her (assuming it was > > made properly), and is necessary to get all of the > > infection. > > > > -- > > > > Charles Marcus > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bladder infection
Charles Marcus wrote: > > > Charles, > > > > Plenty of people are taking mild silver protein with no ill > > effects. Its action is completely different to silver salts > > which are definitely dangerous. > > > However that being said, I do agree that it is best to > > consume pure CS with no additives, but for this complaint > > (urinary tract infection) MSP may give a better result. > > > > Regards - Ivan > > 1) I didn't say it was 'dangerous', I said it can cause > argyria (the greying of the skin). this condition is in > fact NOT dangerous, but it isn't very attractive. > > 2) Certainly it may be more effective than CS in > getting to the urinary tract, but if you simply > increase the doseage of CS (anywhere from 1/4 to a full > gallon a day), you wil definitely knock it out, with no > chance of argyria. > > 3) It is my understanding that argyria can happen > almost overnight, with little to no warning. > > 4) Though 'plenty of people' may be taking it with no > ill effects, making the suggestion that people use it, > WITHOUT A PROPER WARNING THAT THIS IS THE FORM THAT > CAN CAUSE ARGYRIA, AND EXTREME CARE SHOULD BE TAKEN TO > NOT TAKE TOO MUCH, is, imho, very irresponsible. > > Again, I was just warning people of the possible > consequences of taking ANY kind of silver protein. > > -- > > Charles Marcus > Wouldn't it be simplier to inject the CS directly into the bladder thru a catheter? Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Alkaline water Device and Arthritis
samma...@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 99-07-18 15:33:44 EDT, you write: > > > The fact is, white distilled vinegar is indeed > > EXTREMELY harmful to the body, while raw, apple cider > > vinegar is EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL. > > > > The apple cider vinegar I bought at the grocery store doesn't say if it's > raw or not. Do I assume it is because if it were distilled, it would be > white? > Samm You can't buy raw unpasturizes apple cider in the grocery store. Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How Does One Make Apple Cider Vineagar
Mike Rhyner wrote: > > I use Braggs apple cider vineagar, but it is quite expensive. > Does anyone know how to turn fresh squeezed organic apple > juice into apple cider vineagar with the mother? Just add some raw vinegar to the apple cider, keep in a warm place and shake it once in a while. Ron > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Alkaline water Device and Arthritis
Dennis Lipter wrote: > > Apple cider vinegar contains malic acid, not acetic acid. > > Dennis Lipter > > Ivan Anderson wrote: > > > > Well, since you didn't bother to differentiate between > > > raw, apple cider vinegar, or white, distilled vinegar, > > > then obviously you don;t know much about it. > > > > No, you are right, I don't know much about raw apple cider vinegar, > > but I do know this: > > > > THE TRUTH ABOUT VINEGAR > > by Kenneth S. Jaffrey > > Naturopath, from his book "Natural Foods", Published by Kenneth S. > > Jaffrey, 9 Mandalay Avenue, Nelly Bay, Qld. 4819 Australia, 1985 > > > > 'Vinegar is a poison and even when dignified by the addition of the > > words "Apple cider" it is still a poison. Vinegar is diluted acetic > > acid. It is obtained by conversion of alcohol into an acid by the > > bacterium Mycoderma Aceti... > > > > ...Vinegar, no matter what its origin may be, is still acetic acid and > > is most unsuitable for human consumption. The highly corrosive and > > irritating acid hardens the liver, unduly stimulates and irritates the > > digestive glands, interferes with the formation of red blood > > corpuscles and, through its constant irritating effect upon the mucus > > membranes, of the intestinal canal, is one of the chief causes of > > ulceration, catarrh, and indirectly, cancer. It is also a prime cause > > of stomach ulceration. > > > > Vinegar is useless as a cure for disease. It is harmful and should be > > rigidly excluded from the diet. It acts like a counter-irritant but > > does not have any beneficial effect. Like every other drug, it does > > have the effect of altering the course of a disease by suppression, > > but does not cure. Vinegar has caused many illnesses and even death. > > Post-mortem examination reveals that vinegar produces scalded mouth > > and a greyish-white condition of the stomach mucosa. Two deaths have > > recently been reported in Australia. > > > > If you still persist in consuming vinegar, either as a food or a > > remedy, remember -- you have been warned.' > > > > I used to drink apple cider vinegar - I don't any more. > > > > Regards - Ivan The diluted vinegar described above is grocery store vinegar which is pasturized and contains no mother. The curative power is in the mother not in the acid. The mother is the same familiy as penecilin, except that it natural. I am 87 and taking unpasturized raw vinegar for over 20 years for stomach upsets, infectiions and diarhea. It stops diarhea and indigestion in less than 15 minutes. I have a friend who is taking it for stomach ulcers and says it is the only thing that helps. You can't dispute practical experience. Ron > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Apple Cider Vinegar
Charles Marcus wrote: > > >> Well, since you didn't bother to differentiate between > >> raw, apple cider vinegar, or white, distilled vinegar, > >> then obviously you don;t know much about it. > > > > No, you are right, I don't know much about raw apple cider > > vinegar, but I do know this: > > > THE TRUTH ABOUT VINEGAR by Kenneth S. Jaffrey Naturopath, > > from his book "Natural Foods", Published by Kenneth S. > > Jaffrey, 9 Mandalay Avenue, Nelly Bay, Qld. 4819 Australia, > > 1985 > > No, you don't 'know' this, you simply know that this > guy SAID this... > > > 'Vinegar is a poison and even when dignified by the addition > > of the words "Apple cider" it is still a poison. Vinegar is > > diluted acetic acid. It is obtained by conversion of alcohol > > into an acid by the bacterium Mycoderma Aceti... > > > ...Vinegar, no matter what its origin may be, is still acetic > > acid and is most unsuitable for human consumption. The highly > > corrosive and irritating acid hardens the liver, unduly > > stimulates and irritates the digestive glands, interferes > > with the formation of red blood corpuscles and, through its > > constant irritating effect upon the mucus membranes, of the > > intestinal canal, is one of the chief causes of ulceration, > > catarrh, and indirectly, cancer. It is also a prime cause of > > stomach ulceration. > > > Vinegar is useless as a cure for disease. It is harmful and > > should be rigidly excluded from the diet. It acts like a > > counter-irritant but does not have any beneficial effect. > > Like every other drug, it does have the effect of altering > > the course of a disease by suppression, but does not cure. > > Vinegar has caused many illnesses and even death. Post-mortem > > examination reveals that vinegar produces scalded mouth and a > > greyish-white condition of the stomach mucosa. Two deaths > > have recently been reported in Australia. > > > If you still persist in consuming vinegar, either as a food > > or a remedy, remember -- you have been warned.' > > > I used to drink apple cider vinegar - I don't any more. > > > > Regards - Ivan > > I can produce a refuting opinion...from a man that used > it (in conjunction with a ntural diet) to CURE many > problems, from arthritis to persistent skin problems TO > ULCERS (which this guy says CAUSES ulcers) etc etc. > Paul Bragg praised its benefits and lived to the ripe > old age of ninety something until he died - from a > surfing > accident, no less (imagine a ninety year old guy > surfing). > > According to him, ALL of the research condemning apple > cider vinegar comes from data relative to DISTILLED > vinegar. You have seen it. It is a clear, amber color, > and says 'Apple Cider Vinegar' on the label. It is on > the shelves of most grocery stores. It is distilled, > and is a highly toxic poison. > > Dr. Braggs (N.D., PhD. if it matters to anyone) > research of RAW apple cider vinegar proves that, in his > own words, "Pure natural undistilled cider vinegar can > really be called one of natures most perfect foods." It > is the best source of natural potassium there is. > > Many people do not know that one of the things Dr > Alexis Carrol used in his experiment with the chicken > heart (kept it alive for 30 years, when its normal > lifespan was 7 or 8) was raw apple cider vinegar, for > its potassium benefits. > > Since: > > 1) This guy you quoted did NOT differentiate between > distilled and RAW apple cider vinegar, and > > 2) Dr Bragg agrees with EVERY POINT this guy makes, but > only with respect to the DISTILLED vinegars (there are > two main kinds - distilled apple cider, and a distilled > IMITATION vinegar made from COAL TAR (this is what most > people know as 'white' vinegar), and > > 3) RAW apple cider vinegar is mainly MALIC acid, NOT > Acetic > acid (there may be SOME naturally occurring acetic acid > in it, but it is definitely NOT its main constituent, > as you lead us to believe), > > I think it is obvious that this guy was either only > looking at the distilled varieties of vinegar, or was > using data that had been derived only from distilled > vinegars. > > So, people, do your own research and make up your OWN > minds... > > -- > > Charles Marcus Well said Charles. Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Re: CS>Help - Parkinson's Disease
Christian von Wechmar wrote: > > Dear List, > > Does anyone know if CS is helpful in cases of Parkinson's disease? I know of > two people who have Parkinson's. They refuse to take the "normal" > medications the MD prescribes. Any other thoughts? They are becoming quite > desperate. > > Thanks, > Christian Colloidal gold would probably be better than CS. Ron Brennen > --- > Christian von Wechmar > Stellenbosch, South Africa > christ...@owf.co.za > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Parkinson's Disease
Terry Wayne wrote: > > Christian, > Carey Reams said that Parkinson's was a consequence of major > demineralization, especially calciums. In my experience, nearly all > Parkinson's victims have acid pH, which Reams would say indicates a > deficiency of alkalinizing calcium, such as calcium hydroxide (usually > available from a pharmacist if requested. You would also want to > include a large quantity of calcium citrate - a neutral pH calcium). > The calcium hydroxide should be taken until the urine pH reaches 6.4, > then use only the calcium citrate. In addition to the calciums, a > significant and regular quantity of 65+ > mineral colloidal mineral supplements would be important to resolve the > deficiency. Look on the net for companies who sell Colloidal Minerals, > or email me and I can suggest some. > Terry Wayne > > --- Christian von Wechmar wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > Does anyone know if CS is helpful in cases of > > Parkinson's disease? I know of > > two people who have Parkinson's. They refuse to take > > the "normal" > > medications the MD prescribes. Any other thoughts? > > They are becoming quite > > desperate. > > > > Thanks, > > Christian Try colloidal gold Ron Brennen > > > > Christian von Wechmar > > Stellenbosch, South Africa > > christ...@owf.co.za > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > > of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an > > e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the > > SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: > > silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>pH and microbes
Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > Re; pH > > I just ordered some Coral Calcium (high pH and full of minerals...supposed > to raise pH) and pH paper. More will be revealed. Keep thinking about this > one. > > ~^^V^^~ Don't ingest calcium, it will only wind up in your joints. The body wants to make it's own calcium from silica. Ron > At 04:42 PM 7/26/99 -0400, you wrote: > >> Folks, > >> > >> I have posted on the internal terrain before. This > >> environment or 'milieu' according to Enderlien and others, is > >> responsible for changing the life stage of microbes, which > >> exist in us in a benign symbiotic manner at a cellular level, > >> to a pathogenetic stage which causes disease and infection. > >> This metamorphosis is reversible upon the restoration of the > >> correct environment. Darkfield microscopy seems to confirm > >> this. Establishment medical science of course scoffs at this > >> theory, but now admits that the malaria pathogen undergoes > >> such a metamorphosis. > >> > >> Regards - Ivan > > > >This, of course, is in irreconcilable conflict with > >their pet, monomorphic 'germ theory' of disease, but > >irrational illogic never stopped men before... > > > >Bechamp was right, and when Pasteur's germ theory of > >disease took hold and dominated medicine from then > >(late 1800s) to now, it began the most senseless and > >unnecessary period of suffering and death since Stalins > >death camps. > > > >I think Heinlein was right...the 19th/20th centuries > >will be called 'The Crazy Years', if indeed we make it > >throught it. > > > >-- > > > >Charles Marcus > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Bismuth supplements
Liz Pavek wrote: > > Why buy bismuth supplements for ulcers when good old Pepto-Bismol will > do the trick? I think it's active ingredient is bismuth > subsalicylate. > > Liz Unpasturized apple cider vinegar is excellent for ulcers. Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>metaphysical?
Henry Reed wrote: > > I personally am very interested in your pyramid experiments. Also, I > don't mind some off-subject stuff. If I'm not interested, I just ignore > and delete. Of course there isn't much off subject, so ---. Pyramid > stuff please. I am having trouble waiting!!! Maybe hives!! > > Sharon L. House wrote: > > > > >Okay, since we now seem to be going into semi-uncharted territory, I > > >have always wondered what the effects would be of making colloidal silver > > >in a pyramid. I tend to wonder if you would even need a battery source, > > >as correctly shaped (meaning correctly scaled to size and mathematically > > >correct in point to point dimensions) pyramids are "supposed" to have a > > >lot of energy in the center without any kind of AC/DC/Other source from > > >the outside. James Vernon, Allison > > > > I have done amateur pyramid experiments in my home back in the 70's. It was > > more fascinating than you can imagine. I offered to post my results > > privately a few months ago for anyone interested and there were a few. I > > know it's off topic but so is much of what I have been reading here lately. > > Incidentally, I personally don't mind off topic subjects and I see very > > little flack from anyone else about it also. Many new people have joined > > the list since I last posted my experiments. If others would like me to, > > I'll post them to the list. If anyone disagrees with my doing this, please > > say so now and I'll do it privately. Fair enough? > > > > Sharon I would be interested. Ron > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>arthritis
den...@perle.com wrote: > > Hi Susan- > > Thanks for your reply. I just got back from vacation. Yes, my husband's > arthritis is > inflammatory..although we rarely "see" external swelling. > > We have tried just about every herbal alternative there is with very little > results. > He was on a Calcium Phospate liquid that seemed to help for a little while > but then > the flares ups came back just as severe. > > The major pain points are in his feet and hips and shoulder. I wanted to > try CS for him > but I don't see much documented about CS helping arthritic patients. > > Thanks again for your response! > > Dana Dr. Jarvis wrote a book about the curative powers of UNPASTURIZED apple cider vinegar on arthritis. The latest info is that calcium supplements cannot be used by the body. The body prefers to make it's own calcium from silica. The rejected calcium supplements collect in the joints causing arthritis. Hope this helps. Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CITRIC ACID
Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > I need a brain! YOURS! > > I need to know whether citric acid is alkaline or acid in the body. > > Lemon juice is an acid that becomes alkaline in the body. Is the same true > for citric acid? > > Must know...not speculate. > > Or know how to find out. > > Thanks! > > ~^^V^^~ Citric fruits turn alkaline in the body. Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Hep C - a friend has it
deat...@aol.com wrote: > > List: > > I have a friend's son who has Hep C; this is one subject I haven't > investigated. Can CS help it? If not what can? yes I know it's a liver > disease and that dandelion, milk thistle etc will detox his liver BUT can Hep > C be completely eradicated in someone's honest opinion (IMHO)? down to the > cellular and intracellular level? > > Private emails on this subject will be greatly appreciated. > > thanks, > > Try urine therapy. Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>abcess
Scharbach wrote: > > Not sure how much silver, but essential oil of clove will help kill the > pain, as well, > as have a positive effect on the infoection. > > Sparrow > > >I have a screaming tooth ache and developed an abscess last night and of > >course I can't see a dentist until Tues.Can anyone tell me how much CS I > need > >to ingest in order to relieve this infection > >Eternally Grateful > >Ron Massage the abcess with the CS in addition to ingesting. One table spoon ever 1/2 hour until pain stops. Regards, Ron > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Calcium and CS
Scharbach wrote: > > I would like to know more too. I have been taking huge quanitites of > silver > in order to get rid of the Lyme. > > I have noticed that my teeth are not as healthy as they seemed to be before > I started on the silver.This led me to speculate (remember Mike's post > about 2 months ago about taking huge quantities of silver, and getting > leg cramps?) That perhaps the large quantity of silver is leaching away > the calcium needed to keep my teeth healthy. > > This of course leads me in search of a calcium supplement, which will be > easily absorbed and usuable by my body. > > Sparrow > > >I would like to know more about coral calcium, and how it is different than > >other forms of calcium. The latest info is that calcium supplements cause bone loss and osteoporosis. The body rejects calcium supplements prefering to make it's own calcium from silica. Ron > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re Candida Forum debate on CS - BIZARRE DELETION AGAIN
skyl...@aol.com wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I wondered why everyone was so quiet on this matter, till I checked the > posting and found out that again all I got for my copying effort was the <> > translation. Now minded you, I checked to make sure that the copy was > showing up before I pushed send. > > For those who may have missed my previous posting, this is about an ongoing > debate on the candida forum about cs. Someone who uses it seems to be > mistaken about some of their concerns. > > Anyway, here I've tried again. The posting is copied below. > > I remember that some on the list have the facts at hand to dispute some of > this, to to calm the concern. > > I'd appreciate any information you can send for me to take to the candida > forum. > > Thanks, > Taylor > > Re: Colloidal silver question > > From: Linda from California > Date: 8/10/99 > Time: 11:37:26 AM > Remote Name: 171.133.216.5 > > Comments > > I posted the note with no name because I forgot to type my name > before I sent it. If you read my note you can see that I have done my > research. I am not in the medical profession, do not have anything to > gain or lose by sharing this information. I have no ulterior motives as > may have been suggested. I actually care about others . My message > is whatever you take or try, use sound judgement. > > I actually make and use colloidal silver and am an advocate. I think > that using colloidal silver is beneficial As with any compound, be > aware of what you are taking and it's possible effects. Some people > are actually allergic to colloidal silver. > > All the promotional literature I have read say that colloidal silver is > non-toxic and that only the older silver proteins and silver salts are > toxic. Alot of the advertising is copied from other advertisers. These > people are making money from it's use so of course they are going to > downplay any possible side effects. There is so much information on > the web. So, yes do your research. Don't believe everything you > read. Don't believe me or Sharon. Do your own research. Use sound > judgement. > > Medically speaking, we do know the history of silver and it's toxic > effects. However, colloidal silver is so much safer because the > particles are in parts per million. The truth is, however, silver does > accumulate in the body. So what really matters is the total > accumulated dose of silver and how quickly it was consumed. The > body has an excretion mechanism which can to some degree keep up > with silver intake if the quantities are more dilute. The silver that is > accumulated in the human body is the excess of intake over > excretion. The estimated dosage of silver required to trigger an > anti-infection response is approximately 1 milligram of silver. The > estimated accumulated dosage required to produce argyria is > approximately one to six accumulated grams of silver. Some > references state it could be as high as 50 grams in some people. > However, colloidal silver does accumulate in the body over time, just > more slowly than silver compounds. > > So, bottom line, take colloidal silver. It has many wonderful uses. > Just use sound judgement and be aware of the buildup in the human > body. > > Reply to this message Why do you think CS accumulates in the body? Someone on the list mentioned that some one drinks a gallon a day, I think it was Bob Beck. I have been taking an ounce a day and sometimes a lot more for two years and I notice no ill effects. Ron > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Humor
> > A FEW LAUGHS > > > > > DOCTORS' NOTES ON PATIENT'S CHARTS: (ACTUAL NOTES, UNEDITED!) > > > > > > On the 2nd day the knee was better and on the 3rd day it disappeared > > > completely. > > > > > > She has had no rigors or shaking chills, but her husband states she > > was very hot in bed last night. > > > > > >The patient has been depressed ever since she began seeing me in > > 1993. > > > > > > The patient is tearful and crying constantly. She also appears to > > be depressed. > > > > > > Discharge status: Alive but without permission. > > > > > > Healthy appearing decrepit 69 year-old male, mentally alert but > > > forgetful. > > > > > > The patient refused an autopsy. > > > > > > The patient has no past history of suicides. > > > > > > Patient has left his white blood cells at another hospital. > > > > > > Patient's past medical history has been remarkably insignificant > > with only a 40 lb weight gain in the past three days. > > > > > > Patient had waffles for breakfast and anorexia for lunch. > > > > > > Between you and me, we ought to be able to get this lady pregnant. > > > > > > Since she can't get pregnant with her husband, I thought you might > > like to work her up. > > > > > > She is numb from her toes down. > > > > > > While in the ER, she was examined, X-rated and sent home. > > > > > > The skin was moist and dry. > > > > > > Occasional, constant, infrequent headaches. > > > > > > Patient was alert and unresponsive. > > > > > > Rectal exam revealed a normal size thyroid. > > > > > > She stated that she had been constipated for most of her life, > > until she got a divorce. > > > > > > I saw your patient today, who is still under our Car for physical > > > therapy. > > > > > > Exam of genitalia reveals that he is circus sized. > > > > > > The lab test indicated abnormal lover function. > > > > > > The patient was to have a bowel resection. However, he took a job > > as a stockbroker instead. > > > > > > Skin: Somewhat pale but present. > > > > > > The pelvic examination will be done later on the floor. > > > > > > Patient was seen by Dr. Blank, who felt we should sit on the abdomen > > and I agree. > > > > > > Large brown stool ambulating in the hall. > > > > > > Patient has two teenage children, but no other abnormalities. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Heartburn
Ivan Anderson wrote: > > Dear Vassili, > > CS will only be of benefit if the heartburn is caused by stomach > ulcers or an infection of the stomach lining. If this is the > case, then taking a tablespoon (perhaps mixed with MSM) every > couple of hours or so, may be of benefit. > > Other causes have been listed as, smoking, fatty foods, obesity, > alcohol etc. but a recent study has found that: > > "Exactly what causes heartburn and acid reflux isn't clear, > either. Previous studies have indicated a link between acid > reflux and obesity, smoking and alcohol, but this study found no > such correlation. Nor did the Swedish researchers find a > definitive link to spicy foods. > > Some doctors recommend avoiding certain foods to relieve mild > heartburn and acid reflux, including onions, tomatoes, coffee, > chocolate and carbonated beverages. They also recommend against > lying down after a full meal." > > Of course if the problem is intense then seeing a medical > practitioner would be advisable. > > By the way, do look into Brooks advice, keeping the body well > hydrated has the habit of resolving all sorts of problems. > > Hope this is of help > > Ivan Heartburn is usually caused by insufficient digestive juices. Heartburn is actually fermentation. One or two HCL capsuls most times stops the heartburn. Regards, Ron > --- > > - Original Message - > From: Vassili Kalashnikov > > > Dear Ivan, would you tell anything about how to use CS against > heartburn? > > With respect, > > Vassili > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>MSM-info please!
Rob Lowe wrote: > > Hi, a little while ago someone posted info on MSM which apparently is > a wetting agent to allow CS to penetrate the tissue when used > topically on the skin. > Could someone please explain what is MSM? > I went to my local health food shop and they said that they could get > it in for me but that the cost was fairly prohibitive - 500gms for > $A75!? > Not knowing anything about it, amount to mix, etc. I passed on it for > the time being. > I was primarily hoping to use it on my daughters acne and to heal > other skin problems. > One other daughter found CS brilliant for cold sores on the lips. > She has normally found taking lysine daily does the trick, but > recently had a monster infection almost all around her mouth. > Anyway, she very reluctantly used CS at my nagging and was dumfounded > to find that it worked brilliantly. > The old man's crack pot idea using a silver brew really did work!! > I would like to incorporate a wetting agent because I think that it > will be more effective for future use. > Your helpful suggestions would be more than welcome. > Rob > PS: I think someone also mentioned in passing that the CS & MSM could > be used for internal use as well?? DMSO can also be used as a wetting agent Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>urinary tract infection
M. G. Devour wrote: > > > Would the injestion of cs along with caffine and large amounts of > > water aid in the transportation of the cs to the urinary tract? > > I don't know, Tom, but one of my success stories is my brother, a > diabetic who suffered from chronic bladder infections due to his > sometimes less than adequate control of his sugar. The little > buggers always had a fertile medium to grow in, so he'd be on > antibiotics and sulfa drugs all too often. > > He started taking a course of CS, starting small and building the > dose up to what seemed reasonably large. After a couple of weeks I > suggested he back off to just a swallow once in a while. He's had > few if any problems since, and they only come back if he neglects > the CS for a while. > > The CS he's been taking is whatever I happen to be brewing. Lately > it's just the 5-10 ppm variety. Earlier on it was probably 15-20 ppm. > So dosage and ppm aren't that critical for him. > > Hope that helps. > > Be well, > > Mike D. > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] A more effective method is to inject the CS thru the penis. adding CG to the CS has a curative effect. Ron > [mdev...@mail.id.net ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Lew/MSM
kato...@aol.com wrote: > > Dear Lew, > You wrote: > > Dear Katarina, > > You wrote: > > < my Oriental Medicine Doctor warns that there are bacteria and > other nasty things which flourish > when fed on MSM and that most of his clients react badly to > it that Colloidal Silver is an extremely > powerful anti-biotic/viral / fungal,but it can kill brain cells and > cause scarring in the brain> > > I appreciate your MD's warnings. These clinical > findings are serious and have far reaching > consequences. Can your Holistic MD substantiate the warnings ? I am > positive his postings will be of > great value to healthcare consumers and Nature's assistants like me. > > With regards > > Lew > [ Malaysia ] > > I wish his warnings were based on trials and he could substantiate them - or > actually, perhaps I am glad that they are not, because I would prefer it if > CS and MSM had no possible side effects since they are such helpful tools for > good health. His warnings come only from what he has seen in his practice, > and therefore, like most of the evidence of how well CS works in humans, are > basically anectodotal. > I tend to think that he is a brilliant doctor in his own field - but an > alarmist and possibly prejudiced against tools which he doesn't use. > So it worries me when he says these things - but I have no idea if they are > true or not. For myself, I have decided that when I have sinus infections it > is worth the risk of going against his warnings and using CS for them. But > unfortunately, several weeks after using a lot of CS for my sinus infection I > have developed a terrible spaciness and feeling of not quite being in my body > and problems with my eyes, which could be the damage that he warned me about > -- I don't think so - but everyone has a different theory of what it is and > no-one knows for sure. > So I wish there were enough studies to prove one way or the other the safety > of CS or MSM -- but since the big money guys want anything they can't make > big money off suppressed, I guess it will be a while before such studies get > funded -- probably when antibiotics clearly no longer work at all. > Hope that helps, not confuses. > Take care, > Katarina > PS. I think one of the questions which is unresolved is whether CS makes it > through the blood/brain barrier into the brain -- does anyone have any > opinions on this? For what its worth, Edgar Cayce said: The proper use of Gold and and silver has the potential to double your life span. Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> TDS-1 -- ++ Rest * in * Peace ++
Ivan Anderson wrote: > > Hi Douglas, > > better let me take that unit off your hands, before you do > something you regret later. > > BTW a TDS meter is nothing more than a conductivity meter with a > circuit that converts the readout to ppm of some predetermined > compound or group of compounds, the so called TDS factor. This > needs to be further converted to supply a measure of silver ions. > > The TDS meter or conductivity meter will measure any ion or > particle that is not electrically neutral. It will measure > colloids composed of single ions or multi-ion particles. It will > not measure colloids of non ionic or metallic particles. > > So if you are trying to measure a colloid of metallic silver > particles then it will not work. Most of us, however, are trying > to generate ionic silver colloid and in this, if properly > configured, the TDS meter should be fine, I think... > > Regards - Ivan Ivan, Isn't ionic silver colloid a contradiction in terms? Ron > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Moving ppm
bober...@swbell.net wrote: > > Hi Ya'All; > > Well its that time again. Soince I store all of my CS experiment in > clear 1oz coke bottles I get the please of watching them. Nothing > happenes to the colorless CS. > > So I measured the ppm of some of the high rollers after about two weeks, > and wht did I find some went up ans one went down, and it appears to be > associated with the conductivity of the water. > > Check the pcx file attached. > > Comments please. > > "Ole Bob" > There is an interesting article in Borderlands mag. (3quarter, 1997) about the phases of the moon determing the quality of CS. Ron > --- > > Name: Chart >Part 1.2 Type: image/x-pc-paintbrush > Encoding: base64 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Now it's acid?
It has always been acid. I posted a couple of months ago that all cancer patients are highly alkalized and suffer from a loss of appetite. I suggested that anyone with cancer should start taking hydrochloric acid by mouth or IV. preferably IV. I am 87 and have been taking unpasturized apple cider vinegar daily for as long as I can remember. I went 50 years without seeing a doctor. Vinegar is known to kill worms instantly, since most parasites are a form of worm, I have never had any symptons of parasites. You can't tell by Ph if you are alkalized or not because a lot of toxins and waste matter are different forms of acid and give a false reading. Hydrochloric acid is the only acid the body produces. Hope this helps. Ron > Mike Devour wrote: > > Here's a site from a woman who believes an acid ph is preferable. > > She lived to be 106 so what's that tell ya? > > > > http://www.alternativemedicine.com/digest/issue08/i08-a18.shtml > > > > Sharon >> > > This stuff is always so tantalizing but frustrating. I'm in the > middle of reading this article as I write this, and there's nothing > terribly wrong with it, except that they're talking about how she > measures the "energy" of people and foods to see if it's good or > bad, rising or falling, etc. > > They don't give an explanation of how it's being measured or just > *what* it is she's measuring! > > That's the kind of crap that spoils these things for me. How in the > hell is someone going to be able to reproduce her results? Or is it a > big secret for commercial reasons? > > Anyhow, I'll keep reading, since the conclusions she reaches may be > interesting and useful however vague the description of her > experimental methods happens to be in this article. > > ... a few minutes later ... > > Now I've read to the end of the article. Apparently the > "determination board" is at least one method for checking these > energy levels they talk about. It seems to be a plexiglas box with a > protractor scale on the top and you're supposed to put a "witness" > sample and the test sample on top of it in the circle. > > The description isn't totally clear, but it appears you're then > supposed to dangle a silver pendulum they give you over the board and > samples and read off the angle number it swings toward to see if the > "energy" is good or not. > > Wow, sounds scientific! > > Oh, and how about this: "Make sure it is the old-fashioned, pure > Chlorox; this is hydrochloric acid, not chlorine." Boy that's a > concise and sensible statement that a chemist would understand and > agree with! Err, sorry!!! > > Look, I'm stubbornly open minded on this stuff. I *want* to find out > what works. In other words, I'm not willing to dismiss it just > because *some* of the people writing about it are horribly inept, > but it sure as hell doesn't move me towards belief, either. > > It's entirely obvious why so many people reject this stuff and > it's not taken seriously outside our community. > > Heck, the other day I had to reassure my wife, the biologist, that > I'm not being deceived by this sort of foolishness, but am trying to > look past it to get to the interesting stuff. She knows me better > than that, but reading some of it made her doubt *my* good sense. > > When you know the science behind some of this stuff reading articles > like this are actually distasteful. It's no wonder we have problems > getting our ideas considered. > > So, folks, if you read something and don't understand it there are > at least *two* possible reasons why: You don't have the technical > training to understand the terminology or science involved; You > can't understand it because it's *not* understandable, either > because it's bullshit, or presented so poorly that nobody could > figure it out even if it was the gospel truth! > > Bottom line, Dr. Hazel Parcells' stuff sounds interesting enough, but > keep your hip boots handy. If they've got the kind of info that would > impress the open minded medical or scientific person it's *not* to be > found in this article. > > It all comes back to the results. I know *some* of what's out there > is actually valid. The fact that people get good results from some of > these things is compelling. It's just so damned tiring to have to > wade through the nonsense to get to it, though. > > Be well, > > Mike > (feeling a bit weary this morning, I guess!) > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@mail.id.net ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Now it's acid///////RON
Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > t 11:43 PM 10/6/99 -0400, you wrote: > >It has always been acid. I posted a couple of months ago that all > > cancer patients are highly alkalized and suffer from a loss of > > appetite. I suggested that anyone with cancer should start taking > > hydrochloric acid by mouth or IV. preferably IV. I am 87 and have > > been taking unpasturized apple cider vinegar daily for as long as > > I can remember. I went 50 years without seeing a doctor. Vinegar > > is known to kill worms instantly, since most parasites are a form > > of worm, I have never had any symptons of parasites. You can't tell > > by Ph if you are alkalized or not because a lot of toxins and waste > > matter are different forms of acid and give a false reading. > > Hydrochloric acid is the only acid the body produces. > > Hope this helps. > > Ron > > ~~~ > > Agh! (That's not directed at you Ron...just at my > own confusion. I have much respect for 87 years and healthy! And I sure > would likesome clarity on the this ph puzzle.) > > So Ron...why do all the cancer patients drink alkaline water and > take coral calcium? (I have read they start out too acid but in > the final stages become too alkaline.) I can only go by my own experience. It should be obvious that if they can't eat food because they don't have enough HCL in their stomach that they are over alkalized, regardless of their Ph reading. > What about books like ALKALIZE OR DIE? Some authors copy other authors or common beliefs and expand on them I have found over the years that a lot of common beliefs are false. Take for instance the common belief that for heartburn you should take an antiacid. Heartburn, called acid indigeation is actually an over alkalized condition (the food is fermenting) take vinegar and the heartburn disappears like magic. Another false belief is that when women give birth they should be on their back. Actually they should be should be kneeling. They would suffer far less. > > Please tell on what you base what you are saying? And on what > do you base your recommendation of hyrocloric acid? > HCL is the only acid the body manufactures. The white blood cells require strong HCL to be healthy for a strong immune system, a weak HCL is a weak immune system. When a weak HCL is injected into the blood the amount of white cells zoom. > I have a condition...diagnosed as Chronic Fatigue, Gulf War Syndrome > ...i call it..."who knows"... > > I started drinking apple cider vinegar...felt better for 3 months > ...then my health dropped completely and I didn't feel better till > I STOPPED the apple cider vinegar. So I figured maybe I got my ph > briefly in balance and then threw if out in the other direction. Vinegar usually brings the Ph into balance. The beneficial effects of vinegar are not due solely to it's acidity. The mother in vinegar is said to be in the same family as penecilan, without the side effects. FWIW some religious people think it's remarkable curative powers are due to the fact it was the last thing to touch Jesus' lips on the cross. Before I discovered CS I used vinegar for all kinds of infections. It stops diaherra in 5 minutes and upset stomach. > Please share more about your theories and on what they are based. > > Oh..are you familiar with the Moerman Diet? Dr. Moerman agrees with you... No, I am not familiar with this diet. I hope this answers some of your questions. I could go on, but I have over 200 emails to wade thru. Don't take anybody's word for anything, listen to both sides and try the one that sounds logical before you let it in to your belief system Warmest regards, Ron > ~^^V^^~ > > At 11:00 PM 10/6/99 +, you wrote: > >Velique, Dennis, > > > >Thanks for the responses. > > > >Dennis, I like your use of the term "medical dowsing". At least that > >puts us in a familiar framework. There's anecdotal evidence of > >dowsing (for ground water) actually working for some individuals. And > >*you* put it clearly in the realm of the subconscious with an > >admitted assumption of possible telepathy. > > > >At least it's clear where you are standing, and if I'm still > >skeptical, I cannot accuse you of confusing things with flowery > >language or trying to elevate your words to the level of > >pseudo-scientific jargon. > > > >And your example of sexing chicks, Velique, eloquently explains our > >dilemma. > > > >Thank you both. > > > >Be well, > > > >Mike D. > > > >> I used to be a student of Dr Parcells work. Yes it does work > >> when in the right hands. The problem with medical dowsing is its > >> equivocal nature. The pendulum allows one to communicate with the > >> subconscious mind (low self) and obtain answers to questions. The > >> seat of language is the middle ( conscious) self. The low self > >> handles the emotions, memory, and telepathy. Th
Re: CS>Now it's acid?
Michael C McNeill wrote: > > > hydrochloric acid by mouth or IV. preferably IV. I am 87 and have > > been taking unpasturized apple cider vinegar daily for as long as > > I can remember. > > Ron - where do you get the hydrochloric acid? Is that what the ACV is? > How much ACV do you take? You can get in most health foof stores. It coms in capsules usually combined with pepsin. Take one or two with each meal depending on How weak your stomach acid is . Ron > If you can't fight City Hall, at least defecate on the steps. > >>Michael<< firew...@juno.com > webmaster of The Outlands webStead at > http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands > and lord of Far Reaches cot-hold > > ___ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Now it's acid?
Michael C McNeill wrote: > I forgot to mention ACV is apple cider vinegar (unpasturized) also available in a health food store. Ron > > hydrochloric acid by mouth or IV. preferably IV. I am 87 and have > > been taking unpasturized apple cider vinegar daily for as long as > > I can remember. > > Ron - where do you get the hydrochloric acid? Is that what the ACV is? > How much ACV do you take? > > If you can't fight City Hall, at least defecate on the steps. > >>Michael<< firew...@juno.com > webmaster of The Outlands webStead at > http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands > and lord of Far Reaches cot-hold > > ___ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Now it's acid?
Ivan, The problem of trying to measure Ph in the body is that there are waste and toxic acids in the body such as uric acid and these make any Ph reading meaningless. Ron Ivan Anderson wrote: > Well, > > I never said vinegar was poison, I did say it contained acetic acid and > presented a paper in which the author more or less said acetic acid is > not good for one... and promptly got roughed up. > > There does seem to be a body of opinion that regards the ingestion of > Apple Cider Vinegar to have health benefits. I couldn't say one way or > the other, but I believe that if true then ACV is the only vinegar one > should ingest. > > Also, there does seem to be some confusion about the optimum pH of the > body. This is an extremely complex subject. There are at least 5 > separate pH regions, 6 if you count HCl acid content of the stomach. > These are blood, cellular (internal and external), respiratory, urinary > and saliva pH. All are interrelated to some degree and some disciplines > can use these pH levels, along with pulses, blood pressures and specific > gravities of bodily fluids, to diagnose and treat systemic conditions to > great effect. > > Most of the differing pH levels must lie in a pretty narrow range, blood > pH slightly alkaline, tissue and cellular slightly acid, saliva is > normally acidic as is urine, although urine will exhibit a change in > level throughout the day, reflecting the elimination by the kidneys of > acid in the regulation of blood pH as a result of food intake, > respiration and metabolism etc. > > Many people eat and drink highly acidic foods which can result in a low > blood pH. Many people are shallow breathers, and hyperventilators, which > blows off a lot of CO2 resulting in a low CO2 content in the blood, > which in turn leads to vascular and bronchial constriction. Cellular pH > is mainly determined by the exchange of minerals and electrolytes (if my > memory serves) and deficiencies or over supply of these can cause > disease. > > Hydrochloric acid production, of any concentration, is confined to the > stomach, is produced in response to the ingestion of food, and is > neutralised as it passes into the small intestine. I believe this > process is self contained and leads to neither a gain or loss to total > body pH. HCl production is compromised in some people (especially as > they get older) and as a consequence of some diseases. These people can > gain benefit from supplementing with HCl. This enables them to better > digest their food intake and hence supplies them with more nutrients and > energy and a resultant immune system boost. > > It is misleading to say acid is good or alkaline is good (as I used to) > without qualifying ones statements somewhat. > > Regards - Ivan > > - Original Message - > From: > To: ; Sharon L. House > Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 1999 23:54 > Subject: Re: CS>Now it's acid? > > > Sharon > > > > This is what apple cider vinegar is about. (Dr. Jarvis, Paul Bragg). > But > > Listers have been talking about alkaline water. Ivan says it's poison > > (vinegar). > > > > So List, is it acid or alkaline? > > wong > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Now it's acid?
Ivan Anderson wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: RON BRENNEN > > > Ivan, The problem of trying to measure Ph in the body is that there > > are waste and toxic acids in the body such as uric acid and these make > > any Ph reading meaningless. > > Ron > > > > Granted Ron, > > In and of themselves there is not great value in saliva and urine pH, > but when combined with specific gravity and surface tension tests, > coupled with respiratory rate, breath hold, sitting and standing pulse > and blood pressure readings, one can develop a pretty accurate picture > of underlying metabolic imbalances and tailor treatments to correct > these. > > This is according to the Nutri Spec protocol, which is the most > sensible and realistic approach to human health that I have encountered, > and which is backed by ample scientific support. > > Those who are interested may read the Nutri Spec letters, kindly posted > here: > http://www.royalrife.com/letters.html > > Regards - Ivan > The above may be true, Ivan, but it's much simpler for the average person to use their digestive system as an indication of their Ph. If they have no gas, belching or heartburn after eating a normal meal, then they probably have a normal Ph. Regards, Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Happy Aging
Keith Brady wrote: > > Views on Aging > > Do you realize that the only time in our lives when we like to get old is > when we're kids? If you're less than ten years old, you're so excited > about aging that you think in fractions. "How old are you?" "I'm four > and a half." You're never 36 and a half you're four and a half going on > 5. You get into your teens; now they can't hold you back. You jump to the > next number. "How old are you?" "I'm gonna be 16."You could be 12, but > you're gonna be 16. Eventually. Then the great day of your life; you > become 21. Even the words sound like a ceremony. You BECOME 21Yes!! > Then you turn 30. What happened there? Makes you sound like bad milk. He > TURNED; we had to throw him out. What's wrong? > >What changed? You BECOME > 21; you TURN 30. Then you're PUSHING 40stay over there. You REACH 50. > You BECOME 21; you TURN 30; You're PUSHING 40; you REACH 50; then you > MAKE IT to 60. By then you've built up so much speed, you HIT 70. After > that, it's a day by day thing. You HIT Wednesday... You get into your 80's; > you HIT lunch, you HIT 4:30. My Grandmother won't even buy green bananas. > "Well, it's an > >investment, you know, and maybe a bad one." And it > doesn't end thereInto the 90's, you start going backwards. "I was JUST > 92." Then a strange thing happens; if you make it over 100, you become a > little kid again. "I'm 100 and a half." > > Happy aging! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Off Topic - Magnet purchase info???
Strong magnets should not be used on the vortex system with the the two bottles. The small round magnets sold by Radio Shack are the ones to be used. Regards, Ron Katarina Wittich wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I want to make magnetized water and just relized that the magnets I have are > too small to work properly with the litre bottles I want to use.. > It is utterly overwhelming looking for magnets on the web -- and they are > all absurdly expensive!! > > So does anyone have info on a cheap source of circular magnets with a 8 to > 10 cm diameter and around 3,000 gauss? > > Thanks, > Katarina > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Off Topic - Magnet purchase info???
Charles King wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:04:54 -0400, b...@lcia.com (RON BRENNEN) wrote: > > >Strong magnets should not be used on the vortex system with the the > >two bottles. The small round magnets sold by Radio Shack are the ones > >to be used. > >Regards, > >Ron > > Why not? > This is like eating something that fell on the floor. > Who makes up these rules? > The company that makes the structured water kit. They explain that strong magnets reverse the process. Ron Chuck > UFO's are real--the Air Force is swamp gas! > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: magnetized water/Ron
Katarina Wittich wrote: > > Hi Ron, > I was looking for the stronger magnets in order to make magnetized water the > way Lew suggested to me -- by putting one bottle on a north magnet and one > on a south magnet and letting them sit overnight. But now I am curious about > the vortex method and am thinking I might get the structuring kit for 13.95 > that someone else found. > However, I'm having a hard time figuring out the differece between > structured and magnetized water and which would be better for daily use. All > very interesting but awfully complicated. > Any info would be appreciated. > By the way - what strength are the raidio shack magnets? And what do you use > to create a vortex if you made your system yourself? > > Thanks, > Katarina > > > Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:04:54 -0400 > > From: b...@lcia.com (RON BRENNEN) > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Off Topic - Magnet purchase info??? > > Message-ID: <3802a556.5...@lcia.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Strong magnets should not be used on the vortex system with the the > > two bottles. The small round magnets sold by Radio Shack are the ones > > to be used. > > Regards, > > Ron > > > > Katarina Wittich wrote: > > > >> Hey everyone, > >> > >> I want to make magnetized water and just relized that the magnets I have > >> are > >> too small to work properly with the litre bottles I want to use.. > >> It is utterly overwhelming looking for magnets on the web -- and they are > >> all absurdly expensive!! > >> > >> So does anyone have info on a cheap source of circular magnets with a 8 to > >> 10 cm diameter and around 3,000 gauss? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Katarina If you use Lew's method then you need strong magnets. His method makes magnetized water. The vortex method is called structured water and uses the weak round magnets sold in Radio Shack, I don't know the strength of these magnets. I have been using the vortex method for over a year and am very pleased with it. Regards, Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vortex made easy
I feel much better after drinking the water spun clockwise. I have tried it both ways. Ron > > Hi James and Listees, > > I have wondered about that myself. > I seem to recall that references to other vortex devices,that accomplish > other goals, also run clockwise. But I donut know > which hemisphere they are in. > > That definitely is a question that needs an answer. > > I'll keep my eye and ears on alert. > > Happy Vortexing! > > David > > James H-McMillan wrote: > > > > In the southern hemisphere do we swirl the water in an anti-clockwise > > direction? > > James H-McMillan > > > > -- > E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) > > Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net > > Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 > __ > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vortex made easy
David Bolin wrote: > > Hey Ron, > In which hemisphere are you doing your drinking?? > > David Northern Ron > RON BRENNEN wrote: > > > > I feel much better after drinking the water spun clockwise. I have > > tried it both ways. > > Ron > > -- > E-mail to: broompi...@juno.com (no attachments) > > Otherwise: broompi...@netzero.net > > Fax to: 1-253-681-1133 > __ > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: FW: Resisting U.N. Takeover of U.S.A.OT
> > October 15, 1999 > > Ron Paul, U.S. Congressman from Texas, has introduced H.R. 1146, "The > American Sovereignty Restoration Act", to end membership of the United > States > in the United Nations. The bill calls for: > > 1) Shutting down the U.N. headquarters in the U.S. > > 2) Removal of U.N. property from the U.S. > > 3) Cutting off all American funding of the U.N. and its agencies > > 4) Prohibiting U.S. funding of and participation in U.N. 'peacekeeping' > > operations. > > 5) Revoking diplomatic immunity for U.N. bureaucrats. > > Further information: Dr. Paul says that > > 1) In 1992, the U.S. ratified the International Covenant on Civil and > > Political Rights -- "a U.N. scam to steal U.S. sovereignty". > > 2) Since the U.N. was created, American taxpayers have pumped $30 billion > > into this "hate-America socialist bureaucracy". > > Let's direct our calls and prayers into this situation and invoke the will > > of God in all these matters. > > P.S. I didn't know much about Ron Paul so I went on the web and found out > that: > > He is a medical doctor who is pro-life. He claims to have delivered 4000 > babies in between spending about eleven years in Congress. > > In 1987, he left the Republican Party for the Libertarian Party and ran as > that party's Presidential Candidate in the 1988 election. > > He has introduced the following legislation in the past couple of years > alone: > > HR220, Freedom and Privacy Restoration Act (to prevent a national I.D. > system) > > HR516, Know Your Customer Sunset Act > > HR571, Human Cloning Prevention Act > > HR1146, American Sovereignty Restoration Act > > HR1148, To repeal the Federal Reserve Act > > His biography is located at http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.htm and complete > info re: legislation he has sponsored is located at > http://www.house.gov/paul/legis/welcome.htm. > > A quote from Ron Paul: > > "If we stuck to the Constitution as written, we would have: no federal > meddling in our schools; no Federal Reserve; no U.S. membership in the UN; > no > gun control; and no foreign aid." - Ron Paul, U.S. Congressman (Texas) > > Each week, Rep. Paul records a telephone message called the Legislative > Update, available toll-free by calling (888) 322-1414. The Update focuses on > issues facing Congress and of national interest. > > Ron Paul's Washington office, 1-800-335-4949 > > Ron Paul's Legislative Update, 1-888-322-1414 > > Ron Paul's Website, http://www.house.gov/paul/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Earth Changes
Bill Schramm wrote: > > Edgar Cayce was great at clairvoyant diagnosis of people's medical problems. > He was really lousy at predicting earth changes. No worse than Gordon > Scallion (according to whom last year there should have been a 9-10 point > quake rupturing the San Andreas in Southern California.)and all the other > losers out there trying to impress people. Track their predicitions over > time, and you will see they are little better than random, or than the > National Inquirer. > > All of these earth changes by the way according to Cayce were to have > started in 1968, at which time the "greater portion of Japan will fall into > the sea..." > > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 10:22 AM > Subject: CS>Earth Changes > > >For those who follow these things, Edgar Cayce said "Mt. Etna and Vesuvius > signal > >the major changes!", that is, the great earth changes will shortly follow > the > >eruptions of Etna and Vesuvius. > > > >Along with all the weirdness with the sun lately, Etna exploded last nigh >>http://www.discovery.com/news/earthalert/991025/index/volcanoes_index. html > > > >Marshall I think Cayce said Etna and Pele in Hawai Ron > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Shingles
Earle Bonner wrote: > > Does anyone know if cs helps shingles? > Anything help it? Unpasturized apple cider vinegar in health food store. Braggs is best. Ron > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com > Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Colds
Bruce K. Stenulson wrote: > > Steve Geigle wrote: > > > > My M.D. friend has a terrible cold and is using CS. Anyone have info on > > what has worked for them to beat the cold. Have you used a zapper with the > > CS. Hurry...he's really sick and taking care of his wife who has MS. > Two HCL capsules usually stops a cold in a few minutes. Regards, Ron Brennen > > Another quick note: > > After going through a bout with this resistent bug recently, and being > over symptoms, I began to again get a runny nose & a few sneezes > building this morning about 10AM. I set up the Zapper HFA4-AVR with the > two SS pads, one inside of my belt line on either side of my stomach, > and ran > > 334KHz for 3 minutes > 371KHz for 3 minutes > 375KHz for 3 minutes > > Shut down for a while & been busy since, but the symptoms are gone now > again... no symptoms at all... more like the usual results. > I didnt run 393KHz this time, or the 568KHz either... seemed to do the > trick for today... > > Last week, my mother in Wisconsin (who had recently recieved the > HFA4-AVR) > had a cold coming on about mid-day- sneezing & nose running so bad she > could hardly hang on to the two SS hand pieces... but she ran the 393KHz > for the three 7-minute sessions, with 20 minute breaks. I happened to > call that evening, and she reported the cold symptoms were completely > gone... no recurrance since. (She's still a bit amazed, too... > > Be Well!! > > Bruce > > The Alternate Health Approaches Forum -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver oxide, Size of Particles
Brian McInturff wrote: > > This is my take on making CS based on observation only. I > am relatively new to the process and do not know the physics > involved yet. I am sure I have some of it wrong, so let me > know where. > > I am making CS with a 24V AC transformer and a full bridge > rectifier with a big cap across it to produce DC at about > 34V. I have Sota . silver wires. They run through a > block of wood and are about 3/4" apart but can be easily > bent to any distance since the ends dangle. > > I start with boiling hot distilled water. I bend the ends > of the wires to about 1/2" apart to get the process going a > bit faster. After 10 minutes, the cloud starts to form and > the positive wire begins to blacken and the negative gets > "furry". I remove the wires and clean them with a scotch > brite pad and straighten them out until they are parallel > 3/4" all the way down. Then, back in the drink for another > 10 minutes - this time, I use the wires to stir the CS after > 5 minutes. After 5 more minutes, I remove the wires and > clean with a pad again. Then, back in the drink for 5 > minutes, stirring every minute or so. Out to clean them and > in for another 5 minutes, again stirring every minute. This > is a total of 30 minutes the device runs (with approx 3 > minutes for cleaning for a total of 33 minutes per batch). > I make it in a tall thin glass, which holds approx 14oz. > This method yields from 20-25ppm based on my (saltwater > calibrated) TDS-1 meter. When it is done, it is slightly > yellow. > How do you calibrate the TDS-1 for CS with salt water? Thanks, Ron Brennen Snip> > Straining the CS through coffee filters causes it to lose 1 > ppm. I then pour it into brown glass bottles. > > Isn't the blackness on the positive electrode as well as > what causes the silver to go yellow silver oxide? It seems > to me this is what it is. Even if I keep the electrodes > perfectly clean or only go for 5 minutes after the cloud > starts to form and make a clear solution, it will yellow a > bit when I filter it while letting the CS drop a few inches > into a cup. It will yellow less if it splashes (oxygenates) > less while filtering. A batch will always turn yellow on me > when I store a small amount in a 32oz brown glass container. > > If I store clear CS in an 8oz bottle, it will stay clear > longer but after it is opened a number of times, it too will > yellow. I assume it is reacting with oxygen to form silver > oxide. It seems to me that the yellower it is, the less > metallic tasting. I have made high PPM batches that I let > go dark yellow (1 hour run time) and clear batches (15 > minute total) and the low PPM clear tastes more metallic > than the high PPM yellow. > > If this is the case, and silver oxide is undesirable, I > suppose a way to control its formation would be to make > clear CS and put it in single serving bottles filled to the > top. This is workable since 1 or 2 oz bottles are widely > available (except they don't cost much less than the 8oz > glass bottles from Frontier, where I usually get them). I > also considered putting some ascorbic acid in the product > after it was made to inhibit oxidation, but I don't know if > silver ascorbate (or whatever it would form) is effective or > safe. > > I also think it may be better to use a high voltage system > to circumvent this. It seems to me that the shorter the time > it takes to make the CS, the less oxidation occurs. I don't > know how this affects particle size, though. > > Is particle size really too large when high voltages are > used? Has anyone looked into this personally (instead of > heard it from a CS generator manufacturer)? I don't know > why the particles would be much different size between > using, say, 9V or 9000V. Just seems to me that they > will "jump off the wire" faster. Anyone know for sure? > I am considering getting a 400V bridge rectifier and > connecting it to 120V, and not even put a cap across > it and see what a full rectified wave will do. > > Of course, a major consideration in high voltage systems > is safety. Anything much over 27V is getting into the > hazardous range, especially considering most of us > make the stuff using exposed bare wires. A few times > I've yanked the wires out of the solution and cleaned them > with a scotch brite only to realize on putting them back > in that the power was still on. Using high voltages, > I would have likely not forgotten much more than once. > > turf > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or qu
CS,,.tooth extraction
I recently had two teeth extracted, Instead of taking an antibotic for infection and anacin for the pain as recommended by the dentist I saturated a gauze pad with CS and bit down on it. The results were amazing. I had no pain or swelling and the gums had closed over and were almost healed in two days. Ron Brennen -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Drew it out??
Marsha Hallett wrote: > > >>so he took 12 gauge and drew it out, > > > > > >Drew it out?? Just shows ta go ya how much I know! Anyway, so glad to hear > >it's okay and thanks for letting us know, Marsha. > > > >Sharon > > Dear Sharon, > He took the thicker wire, heated it, and pulled it finer through a thingy > that made it end up the right gauge. Neat! > Love, > Marsha Why not get the right gauge wire in the first place and save the trouble? Ron Brennen > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS generators
Hi all, I have been making and selling colloidal silver, colloidal gold colloidal platinum and cs generators for the past two years. I would like to share the benefit of my experience with the list, especially those new to the list who are thinking of making or buying a cs generator. In my opinion the lvdc generator is the most practical. In serious infections such as lyme,etc. I think the frequency of ingestion is more important than the PPM. I have found that 5-10 PPM handles everything I have come across. I think that a filter is VERY important. You will usually find large particles on top of the filter. If you have any questions I will try to answer them off list. Keep in good health. Ron Brennen -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Colliodal Gold and Colliodal Platinum
allen.leit...@zurich.com wrote: > > Ron Brennen wrote: > >I have been making and selling colloidal silver, colloidal gold > >colloidal platinum and cs generators for the past two years. > > >In my opinion the lvdc generator is the most practical. > > Can you make CG or CP using a lvdc generator. > > Where do you get 99.9% pure gold and platinum? Do you use wire? > > Allan To make CG or CP the electrodes must be arced under water. I should have said in my opinion the lvdc is the most practical for making CS. The gold and platinum wire can be gotten from Johnson Mathey. Regards, Ron > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
