Re: CS>Re: New to CS - Need Opinions/Advice

[Terry Dickinson]

By gum! - doesn't seem to do anything to my scant grey locks!
They're just getting thinner and thinner.

Terry

- Original Message - 
From: "hughman1" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: New to CS - Need Opinions/Advice


> Msm will make hair and nails grow fast. My barber is always amazed that my
> hair grows fast and that I'm back for another haircut.
>



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Re: CS>Need help to calculate the PPM

[Terry Dickinson]

My apologies to Marshall.  Obviously the only confusion was
somewhere behind my eyeballs!

Terry


- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Need help to calculate the PPM


> Huh?  I don't follow. mg is milligram and ug is microgram.
>
> He had 2120 micrograms in 175 milliliters. I multiplied both sides by 1000
> to normalize to the units we normally work with in this newsgroup, which
is
> 1 ppm = 1 mg per liter.
>
> Marshall



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Re: CS>Need help to calculate the PPM

[Terry Dickinson]

Marshall wrote:

> 2120 mg/175 liters = 12.11 mg/liter = 12.11 ppm.

This could cause a little confusion to a non US user although
"milligram" is stated.

This side of the pond mg is milligram and ug (with an upsweep
on the beginning of the "u") is microgram.

If mg is standard in the US for microgram what do you have for
milligram ?

Terry


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Re: CS>1936 Reader's Digest on colloids

[Terry Dickinson]

Hey! That's interesting - how far can it be pushed?  Particles infinitely 
small, area infinitely large?  What area in the atomic range? - gee whizz
I reckon I'm swallowing more than I think I am with my CS!

CheersTerry


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:35 AM
Subject: CS>1936 Reader's Digest on colloids


> A frequently referenced article many may be familiar with and a nice
> complement to Ron's posting of a 1914 Scientific American article (see
> Archives):
> "...Suppose we have a cube of iron measuring an inch on each edge. The
> total surface would be six square inches. The electrical charge is on
> the surface; therefore, the greater the surface the greater the charge;
> and if we divide the cube of iron into smaller pieces we increase the
> surface areas. By colloidal chemistry that iron cube can be divided into
> particles so minute that they are invisible, hence instead of six square
> inches of surface emanating electric energy, we have something like 127
> acres...The study of these phenomena constitutes the road to the
> ultimate in human knowledge."
> Chemistry's Miraculous Colloids by Kenneth Andrews
> http://www.life-enthusiast.com/ormus/orm_colloidal.htm
> Ron's post: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m51861.html
> jr
> 
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Re: CS>OT RIFE testing unit

[Terry Dickinson]

Couple of sites for you to have a look at:

www.rt66.com
www.rife.org

Regards   Terry


- Original Message - 
  From: stepbystep...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:37 AM
  Subject: CS>OT RIFE testing unit


  Does anybody knows anything about Rife technology? Over the time I heard a 
lots of great things about it, how using different frequency to kill pathogens 
in the body. But what about using it as a diagnostic tool. 
  Something that can screen the patient and tell what kinds of 
  freq/pathogens present in his/her body. 
  Thanks. 

Re: CS>Ratchets for JOH

[Terry Dickinson]

Seems to me I recall:

"The paarty's off - me cobber's sheila's crook!"

G'day sports

Terry

- Original Message - 
From: "Ivan Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:05 AM
Subject: CS>Ratchets for JOH


> Mate,
> 
> Glenn went radishes at me...what do you expect!
> 
> rhubarb
> Ivan
> 
>


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Re: CS>TDS/PWT meters

[Terry Dickinson]

On the last point - a reading of 10 cannot give a true between 0 and 20.
A reading of 10 means that there is some conductivity and therefore
0 is impossible and the actual reading must at least be 5 or more for
what is basically a reasonable instrument - I would guess at least 7.

Terry

- Original Message - 
From: "Dean Miller" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: CS>TDS/PWT meters


> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:31:25 -5, "M. G. Devour" 
> wrote:
> 
> >Specs for my Hanna TDS-1:
> >
> >Range: 0 to 999 ppm
> >Resolution: 1 ppm
> >Accuracy: +/- 10 ppm
> >Typical EMC Deviation: +/- 1% of Full Scale
> >
> >If I interpret this right, my TDS meter should read in steps of 1 ppm, 
> >with no decimal point or tenths, etc., which indeed it does.
> >
> >That means the smallest increment it can *resolve* is 1 ppm.
> >
> >The display, with 3 digits, will show from 0 to 999.
> >
> >The accuracy of 10 ppm out of a full scale range of 1000 ppm is, indeed 
> >1%.
> 
> Just to clarify.  The accuracy is +/- 10 ppm.  That means any reading
> could be high or low up to 10 ppm.   A reading of 20 on the TDS meter
> means that the real value of the solution could be anywhere from 10
> ppm through 30 ppm.  (A reading of 10 would be from 0 through 20.)
> 
> -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF
> 
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Re: CS>Ratchets for JOH

[Terry Dickinson]

Seems to me I recall:

"The paarty's off - me cobber's sheila's crook!"

G'day sports

Terry

- Original Message - 
From: "Ivan Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:05 AM
Subject: CS>Ratchets for JOH


> Mate,
> 
> Glenn went radishes at me...what do you expect!
> 
> rhubarb
> Ivan
> 
>


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Re: CS>Home Distilled Water Purity

[Terry Dickinson]

1uS or even better bought from a chemist in UK - what they use to make up 
medicines - I think you'll call it a drug store!

Regards   Terry
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Ladendorf 
  To: Silver List 
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:37 PM
  Subject: CS>Home Distilled Water Purity


  To those of you who home brew your own distilled water, are you testing it to 
see how pure it actually is? If so, what brand distiller are you using and what 
are your test results? I just bought an Ecopure distiller and can't get better 
than 6 ppm according to the Hanna PWT even after taking out the carbon filter. 
I read somewhere that 3 ppm is the benchmark.

  To those who buy their distilled water and test it before brewing cs, how 
pure is it?

  Thanks in advance,

  Paul

Re: CS>Where I am From

[Terry Dickinson]

Where I am FromSussex, England

Re: CS>UK Distilled Water Source?

[Terry Dickinson]

Hi Rod - I have tried distilled water from The Freshwater Company in 
Enfield N. London but switched to the chemist's Purified Water which 
I have always found to be less than 1uS and have had no problems with it.

I note that altanation of N. London obviously is not keen - would be 
interested to know of his experience - other than price!

RegardsTerry

- Original Message - 
From: "Rod Stevenson" 
To: "silver-list" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:41 PM
Subject: CS>UK Distilled Water Source?


> Does anyone have a source in the UK, of good quality distilled water? 
> TIA
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rod
> 
>


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Re: CS>Re: the blue senator

[Terry Dickinson]

Always understood in UK it was 1. which includes silver cutlery 
and tableware.

Terry

- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: the blue senator


> 
> 1. They had argyria from drinking wine from silver cups.


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CS> Re; HELP !!! UKSOURCE FOR CS NEEDED

[Terry Dickinson]

OK - I'm in West Sussex and can't supply in the quantity I gather
from other posts that you need.

You can try http://colloidalsilversupplies.co.uk in Norwich - don't
know them but prices seem not unreasonable but it's better in the
long run to make your own.

For that try http://silvergen.com in the U.S.

Incidentally the graphics on your last message don't help in making a reply!
Terry


Kevin Raggett wrote>

>manchester

>very weak& sick right now - any source here appreciated

>may be dying no joke

>thanka

>kevin


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Re: CS>Thank you all for your replies - I am very grateful, will get back when feel up to reading them all.

[Terry Dickinson]

Where are you in the UK Kevin?

Terry
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Raggett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:28 AM
  Subject: CS>Thank you all for your replies - I am very grateful, will get 
back when feel up to reading them all.


Hello All,

I will read all your replies soon.

I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one.  
Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live 
alone and on disability.

Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ?

Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve 
this misery.

All the best to you all and thanks.

Kevin 
   
   

Re: CS>FTC regulations?

[Terry Dickinson]

Yes! Makes me laugh!  And I see that James makes the same point. 
So we could say "Colloidal silver is antibiotic" and leave out the "an"
and be pedantically correct (as per definition) but as it meets the general 
definition in B I don't have any problem in leaving the "an" in

Terry
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:49 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>FTC regulations?


  But it does meet the adjective definition.  So CS is antibiotic but is not an 
antibiotic. 
  Would that be correct? 

  Marshall 

  Terry Dickinson wrote: 

English use - from the New Shorter Oxford Dictionary:  
antibiotic /%antIbVI"QtIk/ a. & n. 
m19. [f. anti- + Gk biotikos fit for life, f. bios life: see - otic.] 

A adj. ?1 Doubting the possibility of life (in a particular environment). 
m-l19. 

2 Injurious to or destructive of living matter, esp. micro-organisms; of or 
pertaining to antibiotics. l19. 

B n. A substance which is capable of destroying or inhibiting the growth of 
bacteria or other micro- organisms; spec. one that is produced by another 
micro-organism (or is a synthetic analogue of a microbial product), and is used 
therapeutically. m20. 

So, for my pennorth, CS does not meet the specific noun definition. 

Terry

  - Original Message -
  From: Marshall Dudley
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:06 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>FTC regulations?
   I believe by convention an antibiotic that is used on non-living things 
is called a disinfectant.  The dictionary says that an antibiotic is anything 
that kills some forms of life. 
  Marshall

Re: CS>FTC regulations?

[Terry Dickinson]

English use - from the New Shorter Oxford Dictionary:

antibiotic /%antIbVI"QtIk/ a. & n.

m19. [f. anti- + Gk biotikos fit for life, f. bios life: see - otic.]

A adj. ?1 Doubting the possibility of life (in a particular environment). 
m-l19. 

2 Injurious to or destructive of living matter, esp. micro-organisms; of or 
pertaining to antibiotics. l19. 

B n. A substance which is capable of destroying or inhibiting the growth of 
bacteria or other micro- organisms; spec. one that is produced by another 
micro-organism (or is a synthetic analogue of a microbial product), and is used 
therapeutically. m20. 

So, for my pennorth, CS does not meet the specific noun definition.

Terry

  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:06 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>FTC regulations?


  I believe by convention an antibiotic that is used on non-living things is 
called a disinfectant.  The dictionary says that an antibiotic is anything that 
kills some forms of life. 
  Marshall 

Re: CS>test

[Terry Dickinson]

I'm getting this msg OK over here Tel.

CheersTerry

- Original Message - 
From: "Tel Tofflemire" 
To: "Silver list" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:42 PM
Subject: CS>test


> I am not even getting my "test" through the Silver list ? Is it Down ?
> 
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Re: CS>grey matter

[Terry Dickinson]

Happen to know that this particular "quote" wasn't made by him - it's
actually from George Orwell.

RegardsTerry


- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Green" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>grey matter


> 
> On Saturday, May 25, 2002, at 09:05  PM, Ode Coyote wrote:
> 
> > L Ron Hubbert was not stupid...no..not by a long shot.
> 
> He was once quoted as saying that if you ever wanted to make a lot of 
> money just invent your own religion.
> 



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Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

[Terry Dickinson]

John Reeder wrote:

> Subject: RE: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


>. Interestingly, the Zapper was just approved in Europe as an
> alternative healing method (kind of like the FDA approving cs here). 

Would be interested in knowing who approved this John

Regards   Terry


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Re: CS>Making Your Own a Gallon or Aquarium at a Time

[Terry Dickinson]

Been off this list for some time so excuse if horning in but my
experience of running at 27V on a non constant current system
means that the longer you run the higher the current and thus the 
larger the particle size subsequently produced. Conductivity of
the solution increases with particle production.

Terry

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Making Your Own a Gallon or Aquarium at a Time


> But now I'm curious about 'higher current'. In the material I've read, 
> 30VDC is recommended, but 27 will do. Since I'm running at the 
> latter (3X9V), how am I operating at a 'higher current'? 
> Your advice is appreciated  -  Al 
> 




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Re: CS>Eye test

[Terry Dickinson]

Oh well - I dunno - but you certainly gave me a chuckle!

CheersTerry

Ode Coyote wrote:
> 
>  You may have directed yourself to find 'f's but habit and training defined
> them as sounds without your realizing it, not letters.
>  Not only do we see what we look for, we don't even know what we're
> 'really' looking for all the time.
>  Heck, half the time, I only think I'm thinking. [I'm the easiest person on
> this planet for me to fool because I always believe myself.]
> Ken
> 
> At 08:31 PM 2/28/02 +, you wrote:
> >I don't think this suggestion applies in my case - not that it doesn't
> >have merit.  My score of three I believe was obtained by me (not my
> >brain) actually looking for the letter - and, of course, failing!
> >
> >Regards   Terry
> >
>


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Re: CS>Eye test

[Terry Dickinson]

I don't think this suggestion applies in my case - not that it doesn't
have merit.  My score of three I believe was obtained by me (not my
brain) actually looking for the letter - and, of course, failing!

Regards   Terry

Ode Coyote wrote:
> 
>  Because the word "of" is pronounced [percieved as] "ov" as it is read and
> the brain is looking for 'f' sounds...not letters.
>  It can be processed, it just usually isn't.
> Ken
> 
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Re: CS>Burns

[Terry Dickinson]

Makes one wonder what else is in the stuff!! Don't let the
pharmaceuticals know or else they'll grab it and make another billion.

Terry

Alex Torres wrote:
> 
> My 2 cents to the list:
> My wife worked 8 years at Mac Donald's and every time a person got burn
> with oil (real hot, oil for the French fries cooking ) they use Mustard
> (the mustard color yellow used on hot-dogs). It contains vinegar (I
> believe) and some bicarbonate of soda, and the pain and scars do not
> shows (the pain starts only when the initial stage of the burn but
> disappears instantly at the mustard application)
> Alex
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: SILVER [mailto:thesilv...@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:11 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Burns
> 
> SEE SILVERLON.COM.
>


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Re: CS>Current Meter

[Terry Dickinson]

I feel that Wayne is dead right in specifying the quantity & voltage but
the current will vary on other factors such as size of electrodes,
distance apart, etc.  I can't answer his exact question but I can
indicate what I do for smaller runs which may help others.

I make 900 ml (bit over 1 1/2 pints)at a time and measure with separate
measuring electrodes of 12g siver wire immersed 3 1/2 inches hanging
over opposite sides of the glass vessel (3 1/2 inches apart) using 27V
and with the silver maker turned off (most important!).

I find that a curent of 1.25 to 1.5 milliamps gives me CS of 8-10 ppm as
measured by a Hanna PWT reading of 12-14 microS (using 0.69 as a
conversion factor).  The water I use is B.P. (British pharmaceutical
(the stuff that's used to make up medicines) which gives a reading of
000 on a TDS1.

Hope this helps somebody

Regards   Terry (the other one).

Wayne Fugitt wrote:
> 
> Morning Bob, Terry, and the list,
> 
> Often I find myself using my multi-meter to monitor CS process.
> 
> So I decided to add a permanent current meter to the generator.
> 
> Likely I will use a panel meter, edge type.   A digital meter would be nice
> and it could have multiple scales but one scale should be all I need.
> 
> I think the target current needs to be from 10 to 15 or 20 ma.
> 
> Question is, what full scale range should the meter be.



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Re: CS>A Spot of Humour..

[Terry Dickinson]

Ah! - you youngsters!  I'm now a great-grandad although the youngster is
12,000 miles away!

Cheers   Terry

Judith Thamm wrote:
> 
> Aren't we all lucky to have grandchildren!
> Judith.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:22 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>A Spot of Humour..
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CS>Missed this 21/11

[Terry Dickinson]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1667000/1667631.stm

US warns bio-terror 'cure' websites
   
Websites have a week to stop selling unproven bio-terror treatments
By BBC News Online's Kevin Anderson 

 With anthrax spores still being discovered in Washington
Congressional offices, a worried public continues to look for ways to
protect themselves. 

 Hundreds of websites have sprung up selling everything from
mail sterilisers to oregano oil to prevent and treat illnesses such as
anthrax. 

 But now the US Government is cracking down on dozens of
websites that it claims are selling unproven  products to counter
bio-terrorism threats. 

 The Federal Trade Commission has sent some 40 e-mails to the
operators of such websites, telling them to stop marketing such products
or face prosecution. 

 'Disturbing sites' 

 The FTC, the Food and Drug Administration, the California
Department of Health Services and the offices of more than 30 state
attorneys-general scoured the web for sites selling products that
claimed to protect or counter biological and chemical agents. 

 The internet search uncovered more than 200 sites marketing
bio-terrorism related products including gas masks, protective suits,
mail sterilizers, biohazard test kits, homeopathic remedies and
dietary  supplements. 

 The sites are claiming that dietary supplements such as
colloidal silver, zinc mineral water, thyme and oregano oil are
effective treatments for illnesses such as anthrax. 

 But the FTC said it was aware of no scientific proof for such
claims. And John Taylor with the Food and Drug Administration's Office
of Enforcement said that no products being marketed as dietary
supplements had proven safe and effective in the treatment of anthrax. 

 "Together with the FTC, we've found quite a number of
disturbing sites," Mr Taylor said. "Companies marketing unapproved or
otherwise misbranded products for anthrax or other diseases run a very
high risk of FDA
enforcement or regulatory action." 

 The FTC said that opportunistic online marketers are preying on
the fears of the public. 

 "This marketing targets people worried about the prospect of
exposure to lethal biological or chemical weapons," said Howard Beales,
the FTC's Director of Consumer Protection. 

 And the US Government is working with state and local
authorities to close down sites that are using worries over
bio-terrorism to make money selling ineffective products. 

 Washington Attorney-General Christine Gregoire said state
attorneys-general "will not stand by while website operators capitalise
on public fears by selling products that offer no protection." 

 Buyer beware 

 Not all homeopathic or alternative medicine websites are trying
to market alternative therapies to anthrax. 

 The Washington Homeopathic Products website instructs people
who believe that they have been exposed to anthrax to see a licensed
healthcare provider immediately. 

 And the president of the National Centre for Homeopathy, Todd
Rowe, counselled people to avoid panic. Echoing the warnings of
government officials, he said "the internet is full of books and
products capitalising on this fear". 

 But the FTC said the public should be aware of online marketers
peddling miracle treatments and cures including exotic potions and
pills, special curative diets, and strange magnetic or electrical
devices. 

 They stressed that the only known effective treatment for
anthrax and smallpox are approved prescription drugs and vaccines, and
they urged the public to consult their health care professional before
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Re: CS>alkalizing/Carey Reams/ OT?

[Terry Dickinson]

Whenever I see "banned book" it tends to raise my ire and want to know
more. Any reason given for this? Did there happen to be a cure that made
the establishment feel threatened?

Terry

TJ Garland wrote:
> 
> I just read an interesting banned book-"Choose Life or Death "by Carey
> Reams.


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Re: CS>That Liter thing

[Terry Dickinson]

Yes! - I remember that trick question well.  But the second one is not
quite right - the ounce of gold is heavier as the Troy ounce is 31.1
grams  and the Avoirdupois is 28.3 grams.  

Regards   Terry

Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> Once they had that, I would give them the riddle of which weight more,
> an ounce of gold or an ounce of feathers.  They would guess feathers,
> but the answer is gold, since there are only 12 oz of gold in a pound
> and 16 of feathers in a pound.
> 
> Real confusing.
> 
> Marshall
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Re: CS>Bone meal

[Terry Dickinson]

News to me.  Would appreciate source of this data.

Terry

Thelma Seto wrote:
> 
>Quite a few British scientists died under mysterious circumstances hours 
>before they were to hold press conferences to publicize their scientific 
>findings.


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Re: CS>OT My crop circle pictures

[Terry Dickinson]

Crikey!  I had to resort to my Shorter Oxford for this.  
"Anomalous" - unconformable or dissimilar; irregular,abnormal
Agreed - doesn't fit - it's quite definitely formed and a most beautiful
regular Julia pattern.

But - "Anomaly" carries the definition of "an unusual circumstance." 
While crop circles have appeared and been regularly discussed over a few
years there hasn't been one quite like this one.  Standing in it you
can't see the whole thing. It has been measured at 780 feet across and
consists of 409  separate circles, the largest of which is 70 ft.
across.
The edges of the circles have been reported as razor sharp and for the
thing to appear in one night and man-made is totally unbelievable.

More info on this at:
http://www.swirlednews.com/index.asp?pagenum=4

Perhaps, to escape Mike's gentle wrath, any more on this should go on to
the off-topic list
Regards   Terry

Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> Nothing anomlous there.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Terry Dickinson wrote:
> 
> > Try this for a new one.  Ooo-arr going OT again!
> >
> > http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2001/MilkHill2/milkhill2001a.html
> >
> > Regards  Terry
> >
> > Marshalee Hallett wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just posted this site. I think some of you will find it interesting.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.execonn.com/cropcircles/
> > > >
> > > > Marshall
> > >
> > > But 1992 was a long time ago. Got anything new??
>


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Re: CS>OT My crop circle pictures

[Terry Dickinson]

Try this for a new one.  Ooo-arr going OT again!

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2001/MilkHill2/milkhill2001a.html

Regards  Terry

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
> 
> > I just posted this site. I think some of you will find it interesting.
> >
> > http://www.execonn.com/cropcircles/
> >
> > Marshall
> 
> But 1992 was a long time ago. Got anything new??
> 
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Re: CS>Silver against Viruses?

[Terry Dickinson]

But how about Foot and Mouth?   To my understanding that's a pathogen
but must confess that stupicly I've never considered it

Terry

Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> CS is good at killing pathogens. Since the contageous substance in mad cow is
> not alive there is serious doubt it would be of any benefit.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> panamabob wrote:
> 
> > I wonder how it would do against mad cow ?
> >  perhaps a more benign treatment than burning.
> >
> > bob
> > SLF
> > - Original Message -
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Silver against Viruses?
> >
> > > CS will it work against Anthrax, and smallpox?
> > >
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CS>Virii

[Terry Dickinson]

Just received this and am passing it on as it seems good!

There is a wonderful and simple way to prevent
YOUR computer from spreading viruses.  You should
use this technique on EVERY ONE OF YOUR E-MAIL
address books.  What is most remarkable is that I
did not know this simple technique before!

Most everyone is aware that many computer viruses
spread themselves, with a program, that directs
each computer to send the virus to everyone in
that computer's e-mail address book, or books.  We
all feel bad when we get infected.  It is, at
least embarrassing, to infect others.  I hear all
the time "My company spends a fortune and has the
very best people protecting us from viruses."
Well, let me tell you, those companies have all
tried to send ME viruses.  And the FBI, CIA,
Pentagon, Army, NSA, and all the other top
computer expert facilities in the world - have
sent out viruses to everyone in thier address
books, recently!


Hopefully you will spend a moment to protect all
those in your address books from getting infected
by YOUR computer.

Here is how: Just create a NEW contact in each of
your address books with the first name of 00
and the last name of .  It doesn't matter
how many Zeros you use.  Then leave the e-mail
address blank.  This new contact will then show up
as your first contact in the list.  If a virus
attempts to do a "send all" on your contact list,
your pc will put up an error message saying that:
"The Message could not be sent.  One or more
recipients do not have an e-mail address.  Please
check your Address Book and make sure all the
recipients have a valid e-mail address."

You click on OK and the offending (virus) message
would not have been sent to anyone.  Of course no
changes have been made to your original contacts
list.  The offending (virus) message may then be
automatically stored in your "Drafts" or "Outbox"
folder.  Go in there and delete the offending
message.  Problem is solved and virus is not
spread.

Try this and pass it on to your email contacts.
The more people that use this technique, the less
vulnerable we will be to viruses that spread in
this manner!

Regards   Terry



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Re: CS>Re CS>Prang

[Terry Dickinson]

Use the past tense - pranged!

There is also a "wizard prang" where the event occurs in a most
spectacular fashion - but you still walk away from it.

Terry

Wayne Fugitt wrote:
> 
> > PRANG!
> > A term used by Airforce Pilots when they crash.Both R.A.F.&R.C.A.F.
> 
>   Darn, I though it was used after they crash,   as in..
> 
>"I prang my ankle" !
> 
> or maybe,
> 
> "I prang my head, I prang my plane, or I prang de whole thing."
> 
> Wayne


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CS>Health matters

[Terry Dickinson]

I read that child vaccination is legally enforceable in the U.S. and
that failure to conform results in the child not being able to attend
school, that you may be charged with child abuse and the child may be
taken from your home, placed in foster care and forcibly vaccinated.  Is
this the case?  In the UK you are supposedly still entitled to make the
decision whether to vaccinate or not although considerable pressure is
placed on anyone refusing.  If vaccination does take place is it viable
to immediately dose with CS and thus hopefully remove all the viruses,
bacteria and toxins  introduced?

On the downside we hear that the EU is in the process of introducing a
law making it illegal to sell vitamins and minerals that are not
"legally approved."  The UK, being part of the EU, will have to abide by
this rule  if it is introduced.  Brave new world, huh?

Terry

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Re: CS>Introduction new list member

[Terry Dickinson]

Jame-Osbourne: Holmes asked - What is a "prang"

'prang' - Royal Air Force slang.  One "pranged ones kite" i.e. you had a
most unfortunate accident with the machine you were flying.

Regards Terry


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Re: CS>Ionic silver

[Terry Dickinson]

"Ole Bob" ?? - You got teeth?  Huh!

Terry
Trust in God but keep your powder dry.

"Robert L. Berger" wrote:
> 
> Hi Ya'all,
> 
> Just some more "fuel for the fire" on the subject of ionic silver. My
> HVAC ACR CS is almost pure ionic.
> 
> Went to the dentist with a sore tooth.


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CS>Virus alert

[Terry Dickinson]

A new worm has been discovered in the wild, called the Win32/SirCam
worm. 
This worm is spreading rapidly via the Internet.

Win32/SirCam is a rapidly spreading email worm, which spreads to all the
addresses found in the Windows Address Book. This worm can infect
Windows
systems. The worm arrives with a random subject.

The worm arrives with the random subject and the body of the mail
carries constant first and last line.

   First Line: Hi! How are you? 
   Last Line: See you later. Thanks

Regards
Terry


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CS>That 650!

[Terry Dickinson]

This subject keeps cropping up in various posts and I would like to
venture my own opinion.

First I have the following quote:

While studying regeneration of limbs, spinal cords and organs in the
late 1970s, Robert O.Becker, M.D., author of The Body Electric,
discovered that silver ions promote bone growth and kill surrounding
bacteria. The March 1978 issue of Science Digest, in an article, "Our
Mightiest Germ Fighter," reported: "Thanks to eye-opening research,
silver is emerging as a wonder of modern medicine. An antibiotic kills
perhaps a half-dozen different disease organisms, but silver kills some
650. Resistant strains fail to develop. Moreover, silver is virtually
non-toxic." The article ended with a quote by Dr. Harry Margraf, a
biochemist and pioneering silver researcher who worked with the late
Carl Moyer, M.D., chairman of Washington University's Department of
Surgery in the 1970s: "Silver is the best all-around germ fighter we
have." 

Now that is a quite definite statement the truth of which may be hard to
confirm.  What is undoubtedly true, however, is that prior to the
discovery of penicillin and the ensuing spate of "wonder drugs" silver
was used against all sorts of infections - there may well have been 650
- but there doesn't seem to be any positive proof that it CURED them and
that is a step that appears to have been taken in some quarters.

Hopefully I haven't been flogging a dead horse but my two-penn'orth.

Terry


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Re: CS>Dist H2O2

[Terry Dickinson]

By Gum!  Being on this list is better than picking up any of the big
encyclopedias!

Thank you Marshall

Terry

Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> Apparently it can vary from little to a lot according to this:
> 
> http://www.wh.whoi.edu/faq/fishfaq1c.html#q20
> 
> and http://octopus.gma.org/surfing/antarctica/salt.html says:
> 
> Marine invertebrates in the Antarctic have the same concentration of salt in
> their bodies as the water. Antarctica has a surprising
> variety of invertebrates. Scientist David G. Campbell, reporting in the
> November, 1992 issue of Natural History Magazine
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CS>Re: GoBack

[Terry Dickinson]

Here's the info - but you have to have the program installed first of
course:

his mail comes to you from the Virus Emergency Response Team
at Proland Software.

A new worm has been discovered in the wild, called the VBS/VBSWG.X worm. 
This worm is spreading rapidly via the Internet.

About the VBS/VBSWG.X Worm:

VBS/VBSWG.X is a rapidly spreading email worm which uses MS-Outlook.
This 
worm can infect Windows 95/98 and Windows NT/2000 systems. The worm
arrives 
with the subject: Homepage and with an attachment Homepage.HTML.vbs.

You can read more about this worm at
http://www.protectorplus.com/virus_info/worms/vbswg.htm

Protector Plus will detect and remove this worm. Please download the
latest version of Virus Database from

http://www.protectorplus.com/download/database.htm

You can also download a 30 day evaluation copy from

http://www.protectorplus.com/download

You are welcome to use this information to help any one who might 
need or benefit from it. If you have questions or face problems in 
the use of Protector Plus, please write to supp...@protectorplus.com.

Regards   Terry+


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Re: CS>Update on the Solubility of Silver and Selected Silver Alloys in DW

[Terry Dickinson]

Always been my understanding.  Also known as "blue bloods" for the same
(supposed) reason.

Cheers   Terry

Marsha Hallett wrote:
> 
> > Subj:   Update on the Solubility of Silver and Selected Silver Alloys in
> DW
> 
> Dear Roger,
> You know, I`d be interested to know if silver really is soluble in wine, as
> it seems that most of the folks who survived the Black Plague were the
> Royals and the Nobility, who by and large drank from silver vessels. Be
> interesting to find that out...
> Marsha
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Re: CS>OT:VIRUS PLAGUE UPDATE

[Terry Dickinson]

I couldn't agree more to this.  Not only am I protected to a large
extent by using Netscape but I also use GoBack which is everything Trem
states.  It does, however, have one catch - if you get a virus from one
of your latest download of messages then you can usually go back to
before you received the messages where there will be a "safe point". 
That means that you will lose the messages you have just received - once
the ISP has sent you the messages it won't send them to you again.  It's
doubful that there will be a "safe point" in the time period while you
are handling the group of messages.  In spite of this it's so-oo-ooo
valuable!

CheersTerry

> Trem wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> I have mentioned this before but I think it needs to be brought up
> again.  If you get a virus, save and overwrite a file you didn't want
> to, corrupted a file that automatically saved itself (such as
> Quickbooks) on the fly, then you need GoBack.  It allows you to go
> back in time as far as a week in some instances.
> 
> I have been saved so many times it can't be counted.  I use this
> program every couple of days.
> 
> Anytime ANYTHING goes wrong and you observe there is a problem, just
> use GoBack to go back to BEFORE you had the problem.  It restores your
> computer to the way it was BEFORE the problem.
> 
> Do you see the implications.  You get a virus and say "Oh S###.  Your
> confuser is infected.. What to do?  Just go back to where it worked
> OK.  You have a choice of when to go back to.  As I mentioned, you can
> go back a week or more if you have enough hard drive space.  It's all
> automatic.
> 
> As a side note, I don't have an axe to grind.  They don't know me from
> Adam.  This is a GREAT lifesaver for those of you who don't want to
> fool around with virus programs and try to remove them.  Just GoBack
> and it's just as though you never got the problem.  I think it costs
> about $40-50.  Not sure.
> 
> It's really cheap insurance
> 
> Trem
> 
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Re: CS>fw: Action! PBS Poll on GM Crops & Frontline report gets low grade(FW)

[Terry Dickinson]

I have a mountain of data on this subject which I'll gladly pass to
anyone interested off list but to add to the post by John Draper:


This Week at TomPaine.com 


EATING IN THE DARK

FDA Will Not Require Labeling of Genetically Engineered
Foods

Americans have a right to know what's in our food. So how
come the Food and Drug Administration wants us eating in the
dark?

The FDA has proposed new rules that would NOT require
genetically engineered (GE) food to be labeled as such. The
rules would also continue to allow these foods to be sold
without any required safety testing. We don't know what
these foods might do to people with allergies or weak immune
systems, or if they have any long-term effect on children.

The new FDA rules are not yet final. Consumers have one
more week -- until May 3 -- to let the agency know what they
think. They can do so at http://www.TrueFoodNow.org.

Credible polling shows Americans overwhelmingly favor GE
food labeling. But if the FDA's new rules go through as
drafted, Americans will be left eating in the dark.


READ OUR NEW YORK TIMES 'OP AD'...
http://www.TomPaine.com/opad


...AND READ THESE OP-AD FEATURE STORIES...


THE LABELING LOGIC
by Charles Margulis, Greenpeace
A detailed critique of the FDA's new GE food regulations.
In sum: No labels, no tests, no problem, says FDA.
http://www.tompaine.com/news/2001/04/24/index.html


THE A-B-C's OF GE FOOD
by Rachel Massey, Environmental Research Foundation
In the rush to promote genetic engineering, safety
testing has fallen through the cracks.
The fourth in a series of articles on the science and
regulation of GE foods, with links to the entire series.
http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/2001/04/18/1.html


COMMON SENSE ON BIOTECH
by Michael F. Jacobson, Center for Science in the Public
Interest
The author is does not share the same suspicion of GE
foods that other environmental and public health advocates
have, but he agrees that labeling would help GE foods gain
credibility with the public.
http://www.tompaine.com/features/2001/04/24/1.html


CAN GE FOOD FEED THE WORLD?
by Brian Halweil, WorldWatch Institute
The biotech industry says we need GE foods to feed an
exploding world population. In congressional testimony, this
researcher says that such technology isn't the solution to
world hunger.
http://www.tompaine.com/features/2001/04/24/index.html

John Draper wrote:
> 
> PBS just ran a 2 hour special: Harvest of Fear on the GMO
> issue. Please read the review below by Tom Mathews. Then
> please go to the PBS website and vote NO!
> 
> And pass this on to everyone:
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/harvest/exist/


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Re: CS>Attachment

[Terry Dickinson]

Confirmed - same with me as I use Netscape also.  There is an obvious
recommendation for using Netscape as the majority of viruses (virii?)
are targetted on Microsoft programs.

Cheers   Terry

Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> Apparently Netscape is immune, it opened the attachment automatically, but I 
> did
> not get the virus.
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Re: CS>Proof of homeopathy?

[Terry Dickinson]

(With due deference to Mike D.)

Would be interested in getting the source references for these.

Also - as the body is nearly all water that would maybe explain - or at
least add to - the Hulda Clark story.  And if I had a frequency variable
zapper and my body was short of certain minerals .?

Terry

Duncan Crow wrote:
> 
> I'm a member of the bioelectromagnetics group -- one of the scientists there
> mentioned that an associate was able to grow big plants in his research,
> using only distilled water with the frequencies for the needed minerals and
> trace elements put into it.
> 
> Homeopathy aside, putting the frequencies into the water doesn't even
> require dilution; a computer program and frequency generator can do it.
> 
> In Russia they are using the technique to eliminate disease, instead of
> blasting apart pathogens a la Rife.
> 
> This reminds me of the experiment in which cows prone to getting mastitis
> were given magnetized water where the controls were given non-magnetized
> water. In the control group 19/20 got mastitis, and in the magnetic group,
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Re: CS>Virus Alerrt

[Terry Dickinson]

I'm lucky - use Netscape and I've even scanned to check and I'm clean.

(Back to list after some months away)

Regards   Terry


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Re: CS>Aluminum Does Jump

[Terry Dickinson]

Well done David, this must become the definitive statement.

But - Gee! - I knew I was right!

RegardsTerry

david saunders wrote:
> 
>Greetings List members:
> 
>The recent dicussion of Aluminum's magnetic properties prompted
>me to do some experimentation during my MPG development
>project. The results are: Aluminum does jump under the right
>circumstances. The effect can be observed anywhere electric
>power is available, and the certain electromagnetic principles
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Re: CS>need help

[Terry Dickinson]

Just follow the instructions at the end of every posting

Terry
Its the amps, not the volts, which kills ya!


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Re: CS>migraine help????

[Terry Dickinson]

Nicole

Add temperature? to the questions in my last

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Re: CS>migraine help????

[Terry Dickinson]

Nicole

I see that you have now received a number of replies all of which tackle
the problem from a physical (food? sinus? etc.) level.

I used to suffer from precisely the same symptoms - many years ago now -
and there is a method of tackling them from the mental level which has
worked for me and which I have successfully used on others.  It may
sound daft but you can try it and see.

What you have to do is to get her to talk about it in the following way.
Ask her to describe where it is.  Get the location exactly.
Ask how big it is - front to back - left to right.  How thick?
Is one end thicker than the other? What is its colour?  What is its
weight? Is one end lighter than the other? Is it all the same colour? 
What does the surface look like?  Do not under any circumstances
question any of her replies, just acknowledge everything and treat it as
a light game. Ask as many questions you can think of to get her to look
at it and you will find that her perceptions will change - next time you
ask her the weight or colour you'll get a different answer - don't query
it.  

When both of you have got nicely grooved in to the technique you can
then ask her to make changes - to make the thin end, thinner, for
example and you can also get her to move it, say an inch in a certain
direction, then back again, then another direction , then two inches and
so on until eventually, believe it or not, you can get her to move it
right outside her head and away from herself.

At that point congratulate her (and quietly congratulate yourself!)

Let me know how you get on

Regards Terry


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CS>Medical errors off topic

[Terry Dickinson]

HI folks

Seen a lot of messages recently about medical errors being high cause of
death in U.S.

Main headline news on cnn.com at time of this msg is

"Clinton task force to seek reduction in medical errors."

Surprising what a few messages on Silver list will produce eh?

RegardsTerry


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Re: CS>Spoonerisms/Off Topic

[Terry Dickinson]

For the record:

A. W. Spooner of Oxford University, renowned amongst his students for
his verbal mistakes through nervousness when lecturing.  Died about 1930
but his memory lingers on..

Regards Terry

"Sharon L. House" wrote:
> 
> James wrote, in part:
> 
> >It is called a "Spoonerism", from a character in an English novel, can't
> >remember the writer, maybe Dickens.  Or something like that.   A play on
> >words, specific to this language.
> 
> Oh, I am so far behind with my e-mail. But just have to reply to this.
> Spoonerisms are one of my favorite things in life. Probably the best I've
> heard is:
> 
> A well-oiled bicycle becomes a well-boiled icicle.
> 
> Here's another good one only this time it's not technically a spoonerism, I
> guess. Instead of switching the first letters of the words, the words
> themselves are switched, in this case, inadvertently. One of the best
> bloopers of old-time radio involved a crime story where two inmates in
> adjoining cells were sharing their stories. One asked the other how he came
> to be there and the other replied, "some dirty squeal pigeon stooled on me."
> 
> Sharon
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Re: CS>FAQ needs you!!!

[Terry Dickinson]

OK Katerina - here's one:

Maureen and I have two dogs and eighteen months ago one, Chips, normally
a very happy and playful character in spite of his then approximate 11
year age, began to get very upset, got into very bad moods and started
to growl and snap at anyone who touched him.  The problem seemed to be
mainly with his back and we eventually asked the vet to Xray it.  
The result was that the dog was suffering from spondylitis - an
irreversible condition where the disks between the vertebrae become
damaged and spurs of bone grow across the vertebrae and obviously
causing the dog considerable discomfort.
Veterinary treatment was to put him on a pain-killing drug with the
instructions that if he coughed up blood, was sick or stopped eating
then to contact the vet again.  
This treatment was continued for four months with no apparent success
(and fortunately no obvious adverse effects) when Maureen read a
reference that spondylitis was caused by bacteria so she put Chips  on a
tablespoon of CS a day in his evening meal.  Three weeks later as he
seemed to be improving she reduced the drug treatment by one half and
three weeks after that took him off the drug completely.
Three months later we took him to the vet for an annual check-up and the
vet commented that Chips no longer growled at him even when his back was
felt and that he was looking fine and in fit condition. Maureen told him
that he hadn't been on the drug for three months but had been having CS
instead which information appeared to mean absolutely nothing to the
vet.
It is now another three months later, we continue the CS, the dog is in
very good form, has lost the stiffness in his back and is fit and agile
again.

Terry


Katarina Wittich wrote:
> 
> Hi wonderful listers,
> 
> The FAQ needs you!!



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Re: CS>rose color cs

[Terry Dickinson]

Bob! Here we probably have a small example of two countries separated by
a common language - I ain't got no rolled brass and am not all that sure
what it is! And the only admiralty brass I'm aware of is that which I
used to salute in (thankfully) bygone days.  Pieces of string and bits
of bent chicken wire I do have

But I used my two 0.123 silver strips - 3mm appx - and 1 cm apart and
dipped them in 3 cms.  Used a DC ohmmeter which read 25 on the X10,000
scale which I make to be 250Kohms or 4 uS.  Wet finger in air gauge of
accuracy probably not worse than 20%

Ain't got no AC ohmmeter neither.  This do you?

Regards   Terry
bober...@swbell.net wrote:
> 
> Terry;
> 
> You can use rolled brass as it is only copper nd zinc. Do bot use admirality 
> brass as it.
> 
> If tyou use AC or DC the probe is only in the water 3-5 seconds. So don't 
> sweat it.
> 
> Try to stay  1 x 1 x1 cm.
> 
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Re: CS>rose color cs

[Terry Dickinson]

OK Bob I'll see what I can do - but I imagine that the probe material
will have to be made out of silver or some other non-active material,
would that not be correct?  If so I have a problem as the best I can
offer is 0.123" wide silver strip which I can immerse a few cms. and
roughly a couple of cms. apart - would that do you?  Other than that it
would have to be a piece of cut-up tin can!  It is NOT easy to get
anything like pure silver here, my source has been the USA.

Regards  Terry

bober...@swbell.net wrote:
> 
> Terry; I would be VERY interested in the conductuivity of o your 
> pharmaceutical grade.
> 
> Someone from South AFrica said thier phar. grade was 30 uS or better. That's 
> swamp water.
> 
> Make a 1 cm^3 probe and check it with dc ohmmeter o n the 2000x Scale and 
> with ac.
> 
> "Ole Bob"
> 
> Terry Dickinson wrote:
> 
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Re: CS>rose color cs

[Terry Dickinson]

OK Bob, thanks.

Then if you start off with acidic water you're going to end up with
acidic CS, eh?
Like Steve King, over here, I only use pharmaceutical grade DW.  
Regards   Terry

bober...@swbell.net wrote:
> 
> Terry:
> 
> Here is your answer.
> Wal-Mart (Lakewood Mo mfg) uS generally 2, pH 5.5, Hinckley & Schmitt, uS 
> generally 3-4, pH
> 5.5,
> Absopure uS 6+, pH 6. All made using same pH papers. I thought I had a pool 
> kit left over
> when we moved from the farm. Guess I will have to buy a new one.
> 
> "Ole Bob"
> 
> Terry Dickinson wrote:
> 
> > Be interesting to know what a pH reading of the DW is before any CS is
> > made.  pH 7.0 is neutral and 5.5 seems to me to be way off the beam..
> >
> > RegardsTerry
> >


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Re: CS>Off topic Alt Health

[Terry Dickinson]

And here's another ME TOO!

Terry



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Re: CS>rose color cs

[Terry Dickinson]

Be interesting to know what a pH reading of the DW is before any CS is
made.  pH 7.0 is neutral and 5.5 seems to me to be way off the beam..

RegardsTerry

bober...@swbell.net wrote:
> 
> Marshall And All;
> 
> I know that Marshall has said several times on this list that the pH of CS 
> should be
> about 7.
> 
> However in the many lots that I have checked for otherss and just after 
> reading his
> post I went through part of my inventory measuring pH with pHydrion Papers 
> with a
> range of 4.5 to 7.5, and measured  12 more samples and everyone checks at 5.5.
> 
> I have never seen anyting in CS that is higher or lower.
> 
> I know Bruce Marx said 7 but I never have seen it. I guess "Ole Bob" just 
> cna't get it
> right. But then I didn't manufacture the papers.
> 
> :Ole Bob"
> 
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> > Those who are having problems with their CS changing color upon storage 
> > please
> > check the ph.  This can be easily done with inexpensive kits from Kmart or
> > elsewhere for swimming pools or aqauriums.
> >
> > Our research has shown that if CS is acid then it is much less stable than 
> > if it
> > is neutral or basic.  If the problem is that the CS is acid then making it 
> > stable
> > may be as simple as adding a pinch of baking soda to bring it down to 
> > neutral.  We
> > add sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to our CS/aloe vera mixture for this 
> > very
> > reason since aloe vera tends to be acidic.
> >
> > Marshall
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CS: Success!

[Terry Dickinson]

Maureen and I have two dogs and eighteen months ago one, Chips, normally
a very happy and playful character in spite of his then approximate 11
year age, began to get very upset, got into very bad moods and started
to growl and snap at anyone who touched him.  The problem seemed to be
mainly with his back and we eventually asked the vet to Xray it.  
The result was that the dog was suffering from spondylitis - an
irreversible condition
where the disks between the vertebrae become damaged and spurs of bone
grow across the vertebrae together and obviously causing
the dog considerable discomfort.
Veterinary treatment was to put him on a pain-killing drug with the
instructions that if he coughed up blood, was sick or
stopped eating then to contact the vet again.  
This treatment was continued for four months with no apparent success
(and fortunately no obvious adverse effects) when Maureen read a
reference that
spondylitis was caused by bacteria so she put Chips  on a tablespoon of
CS a day.  Three weeks later as he seemed to be improving she reduced
the drug treatment by one half and three weeks after that took him off
the drug completely.
Three months later we took him to the vet for an annual check-up and the
vet commented that Chips no longer growled at him even when his back was
felt and that he was looking fine and in fit condition. Maureen told him
that he hadn't been on the drug for three months but had been having CS
instead which information appeared to mean absolutely nothing to the
vet.
It is now another three months later, we continue the CS, the dog is in
very good form, has lost the stiffness in his back and is fit and agile
again.

Terry


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CS>FDA and CS

[Terry Dickinson]

It would seem to me to be of considerable help against the FDA
suppression if there is a sort of database (or an actual database) of
successes in using CS especially where standard medical procedures have
failed to produce the desired results.  I know that a lot of folks have
posted their results and maybe these could be collated in the archive
under that heading.

As an example I follow this with a success we have received - hope that
it's of interest.

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Re: CS>High Concentration HVAC CS--additional comments

[Terry Dickinson]

Ok - so this gives a resistance of 33.3Kohms.  Now I use UK BP purified
water as well and have been very satisfied with it although mine doesn't
state the conductance.  And I use 27V.  In any case the given figure is
pretty useless unless the measuring conditions are specified - size of
electrode, distance apart, etc.

Terry

Steve King wrote:
> 
> >
> >Microsiemens are a measure of conductance; it is the Ohm---unit of
> >resistance, upside down; the reciprocal or 1/Ohms.  It is used to describe
> >the purity of water: the lower the mS reading, the less other things it has
> >in it, and the less conductive it is.
> 
> Very helpful!
> 
> I have in the past bought purified water  here in
> the UK that said: less than 30 microS   on the container.
> - not very pure after all,  I see now. I have also bought
> water that simply says BP, a British standard I think
> for water purity but I don't know the conductivity
> limits.  cheers
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CS>RE:CS>GENETIC FOODS (2)

[Terry Dickinson]

Re: my last.Click on "Health News" and then the first item.

Apologies for error

Terry


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CS>Re:CS>GENETIC FOODS (2)

[Terry Dickinson]

I posted a message on this subject a few days ago and offered to send
further information to anyone who cared to have it and a number of you
did so request and I sincerely hope that good use is being made of what
you received.

However, Genetic Foods is only part of the whole Genetic Engineering
experiment and I did possess a medical Health Letter which I could not
broadcast as it was copyright.  I now find that the author has at long
last seen fit to publish his main Genetic Engineering Letter on his web
site.  It's there for all who wish to download - it's long and you'll
have to print it all out - it's not just a few minutes reading - it's
one to take round to the neighbours.  If you want to really know what
the full story is then click on:

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/main.htm

and then click on "Health Letters."  

Terry


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Re: CS>GENETIC FOODS

[Terry Dickinson]

Good to see something on this subject - although it's strictly speaking
OT it certainly is dealing with the main interest of this group -Health!

GMOs (genetically modified organisms) have been on the US market for
four years with barely a whisper in US press.  The rest of the world
hasn't been blindfolded however and there are groups in the US
campaigning against it.  Try http://www.rachel.org (sorry I can't put
that there as a link but I haven't fathomed how to do that in Netscape
4.61 yet) and have a look at their current rachel#666 The Bad Seed.  And
I've got an excellent write-up on the subject which I'll gladly e-mail
to anyone interested.

Terry

BILL D wrote:
> 
> Hi list, do we really need this, idon`t think so..
> 
> The Clinton/Gore administration has been
> aggressively helping Monsanto promote ag-biotech, bypassing
> U.S. health and safety regulations to promote new, untested
> gene-altered products.
> 
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Re: CS >650

[Terry Dickinson]

>From the UK Daily Mail August 17 1999, article from one Simone Cave
under the heading "Could a silver drink beat all antibiotics?"

"A solution containing one of our most highly prized metals, silver, is
being heralded as the latest alternative to antibiotics.
Research has shown that silver suspended in water kills virtually all
bacteria, viruses or fungi - even if they are only exposed to minute
traces of it.
The solution, known as colloidal silver, has been shown in laboratory
experiments to kill more than 650 disease organisms, whereas most
antibiotics kill only about six.
Vitally it could have an impact upon the battle against
antibiotic-resistant superbugs such as MSRA - methycillin resistant
staphylococcus aureus.  Infected patients can become severely ill and
even die because the antibiotics don't work against it.  Colloidal
silver, an odourless yellow liquid with a faint metallic taste, was
favoured by the ancient Greeks and Romans.
Earlier this century it was used by doctors to treat septicaemia,
whooping cough, cystitis and shingles.  But when antibiotics were
discovered, clinical uses for silver were discarded and it is only
recently that its benefits are being rediscovered.
Available from most health shops, it can also be applied externally to
skin conditions such as acne, eczema and ringworm, as well as to burns
cuts and grazes.
However a report in the Journal of Toxicology and Clinical Toxicology
warns against the indiscriminate use of silver products and says there
is a lack of information about its effectiveness and potential
toxicity."

Bless her - her heart's in the right place!  But anybody got any
information on the Greeks and Romans?  I can just see them squatting
down with their jugs and 9V batteries

Regards   Terry


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RE: CS>650 Virus

[Terry Dickinson]

Following is a list of references to the effectiveness of CS that I
picked up a couple of years ago from a Web posting.

Hope it helps but I guarantee this data not. All I know is that a
considerable number of friends have reported great success in the use of
CS.

  Terry
===

   1."Use of Colloids in Health and Disease." Colloidal silver has
proven particularly effective in cases of intestinal troubles. Dr. Henry
Crooks found that "silver in the colloidal state is highly germicidal,
quite harmless to humans and absolutely non toxic. Rather than in a
chemical compound, the silver in the colloidal state may be applied in a
much more concentrated form, with correspondingly better results.
All virus, fungus, bacterium, streptococcus, staphylococcus, and other
pathogenic organisms are killed in three or four minutes upon contact.
There are no side effects whatsoever from the highest
concentrations." 
   2. Dr. Robert Becker, "The Body Electric," recognized a correlation
between low silver levels and sickness. He said the silver deficiency
was responsible for the improper functioning of the immune system. Dr.
Becker's experiments conclude that silver works on the full spectrum of
pathogens without any side effects or damage to any part of the body. He
also states that the silver was doing something more than killing
disease organisms. It was also causing major growth stimulation of
injured tissues.
 Burn patients and elderly patients noticed more rapid healing. He
discovered that all cancer cells change back to normal cells. All
strains of pathogens resistant to other antibiotics are killed by
colloidal silver. Yet at that time he couldn't find a silver 
supplement on the market. 
   3. "Silver, Our Mightiest Germ Fighter," Science Digest, March 1978.
As an antibiotic, colloidal silver kills over 650 disease causing
organisms, and resistant strains fail to develop. Silver is the best
all-around germ fighter we have and is absolutely
non toxic! Doctors report that, taken internally, it works against
syphilis, cholera, malaria, diabetes and severe burns. Richard L.
Davies, executive director of the Silver Institute which monitors silver
technology in 37 countries, reports: "In four years we've described 87
important new medical uses for silver." 
   4. Dr. Bjorn Nordstrom, of the Karolinska Institute, Sweden, has used
silver in his cancer treatment method. He says the whole thing is quite
simple. This brought rapid remission in patients given up on by other
doctors. 
   5. The FDA has stated that because colloidal silver is accepted as a
pre 1938 medication, it may continue to be marketed. Letter, 13
September 1991, received from consumer safety officer Harold Davis, U.S.
Food and Drug Administration. 
   6. "Colloidal Preparations of Silver in Pharmacy," British Medical
Journal, February 1923: "Pure Silver is entirely non-irritant. In tests
at very high concentrations, it has been shown repeatedly that the
rapidly exerted disinfectant action is of considerable
therapeutic value." 
   7. Dr. Otto Warberg (Nobel Prize Winner, 1932) stated that "Cancer is
caused by the lack of oxygen and the fermentation of sugars." 
   8. Provo Herald, 13 February 1992, page D1: "Colloidal Silver as a
Remedy for AIDS."
   9. American Drug Index, section on Inorganic Pharmaceutical
Chemistry, recognized silver for its germicidal action, calling a
stabilized form: Mild Silver Protein. There are several concentrations
of Mild Silver Protein. 
  10. The Condensed Medical Dictionary, 6th Edition: Mild Silver Protein
is listed for medicinal use. The 4sprotein-2 is the trace used as a
stabilizer. 
  11. Medicinal Silver Home Remedies, Maurice Worthington, M.D., 1928. 
  12. "Colloidal Silver Preparations of Silver in Pharmacy," British
Medical Journal, 1932. 
  13. Royalty, worldwide, have been called "Blue Bloods," because of the
silver content in their blood, even from birth. They used real
silverware, ate from silver dishes, and stored their food in silver
containers. There were no doctors. The common people were often sick
with something. 

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CS>[RF]:Harmonic enumeration

[Terry Dickinson]

Whoops!  Sorry   Wrong list

Apologies   Terry


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CS>Re: [RF]: Harmonic enumeration

[Terry Dickinson]

A square wave is indeed the result of adding together the fundamental
sinusoidal wave with decreasing power of the odd harmonics.  In other
words if you take a fundamental sine wave and then add to it, in phase,
its third harmonic at one-third the amplitude plus the fifth harmonic at
one-fifth amplitude and so on then the further you go the closest you
will get to a perfect square wave.  Try drawing it on a piece of paper
and you'll see.

RegardsTerry (the other one!)


David A Giunti wrote:
> 
>   I have read in this conference that the square wave sent to the nobel
> gas plasma emission device favors the odd harmonics.   This could be good
> or bad depending on how radio harmonics are numbered.


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Re: PPMs

[Terry Dickinson]

Bruce K. Stenulson wrote:

> Terry,
>
> To relate to anyone else's readings, you would have to match their
> electrode geometry...  wetted length, surface area, and distance
> apart;
> all of these will affect the mA reading you will get.
>
> Bruce
>
> Terry Dickinson wrote:
> >
> > Well, I've been lurking a long time and read many messages on this
> > subject - TDS1s - silver testers - and others but I really don't
> feel
> > any
> > the wiser.
> >
> > It seems to me that all such devices must rely upon conductivity in
> > some way or other and in order to reach a standard in my own
> > production all I've done is to run the process until I get two and a
>
> > half
> > milliamps flowing through the CS from a 27V supply.  This seems to
> > produce a satisfactory product.  The water I use is of
> pharmaceutical
> > quality - I haven't had much luck in distillation efforts.
> >
> > I thought a TDS1 might give me an answer as to what I'm making but
> > Hanna in the UK disclaim any knowledge of it.  So if there is anyone
>
> > out there who knows what they're producing in the way of ppm and
> > who is also using 27v and also has a milliampmeter handy I would
> > certainly appreciate their comments.
> >
> > Live life!
> >
> > Regards Terry
> >

OK and thank you Bruce.

Stupid of me but obviously not too late to learn!

RegardsTerry


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PPMs

[Terry Dickinson]

Well, I've been lurking a long time and read many messages on this
subject - TDS1s - silver testers - and others but I really don't feel
any
the wiser.

It seems to me that all such devices must rely upon conductivity in
some way or other and in order to reach a standard in my own
production all I've done is to run the process until I get two and a
half
milliamps flowing through the CS from a 27V supply.  This seems to
produce a satisfactory product.  The water I use is of pharmaceutical
quality - I haven't had much luck in distillation efforts.

I thought a TDS1 might give me an answer as to what I'm making but
Hanna in the UK disclaim any knowledge of it.  So if there is anyone
out there who knows what they're producing in the way of ppm and
who is also using 27v and also has a milliampmeter handy I would
certainly appreciate their comments.

Live life!

Regards Terry






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unsubscribing

[Terry Dickinson]

Hi all

Am going away for a few months and need to unsubscribe and
cannot find the correct format

Would some kind person please advise?

Thanks in advance

Terry

Re: Vitamins - urgent

[Terry Dickinson]

Jade wrote:

> Hi Terry,
>
> What can one do about it?

Hi Jade.

Well, I'm in the UK so the USA action only affects me indirectly -
at present!

I suggest you click on the address I gave you and follow the suggestions.

Good luckRegardsTerry

Vitamins - urgent

[Terry Dickinson]

Hello to the USA list!

Many of you take vitamins.  Did you know that an effort is being made
to regulate who can take vitamins and how much you are allowed to take?

A bill to force you to go to your doctors has already passed the Senate
and, from what I read, action to stop further moves has to be taken
within the next 48 hours.

Read all about it on:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~hanseric/codex.htm

Regards   Terry

Re: Particle size and water quality

[Terry Dickinson]

Don Straatman wrote:

> Am I missing something here? How can you have 'water that is very
> pure,
> but also very acid'?
> I always thought that pure water would be neutral.
> Don
>
> I quote from McGaw Hill Encyclopedia of Science and Technology:

"Pure water at normal temperature has a pH of 7.0"

pH7.0 is neutral.6.0 is acid.

Hope this helps

Terry

Distilled water

[Terry Dickinson]

Hullo there anybody!

I'm pretty new to this list but have been reading the data on
colloidal silver and following the various messages but no-one
seems to have come up with my particular query.

Having read the data and read the success stories I'm naturally
keen to get going.  I've got the box of tricks and the silver wire
but I can't get hold of distilled water!  I know that in the U.S.
you can pop down to the local corner shop and buy it by the gallon,
having done so myself, but here in the UK it seems unobtainable.
I can get de-ionised water (whatever that is - but it seems to be the
stuff to top up your car battery) and also purified water (again,
whatever that is) but nothing but a shake of the head from any
chemist (pharmacist) or chain store (Boots).

Can anyone give me any help?

RegardsTerry