Re: CS>Goodbye for now

[billvan]

I am truly sorry to hear that James.  You have contributed so much
to this list.  Please take care and God Bless.
Hurry Back,
James-Osbourne:Holmes
wrote:


Sincerely,
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Re: CS>Bronchitis

[billvan]

Try :  http://www.msm-msm.com/




A while back someone posted a site for pure MSM powder. I went to the site
but didn't really find where to buy it. I am in need of a mail order source,
as I have looked at some local stores that were supposed to carry the pure
MSM, but none actually does have it.
I
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CS>test

[billvan]

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CS>Location

[billvan]

I'm from upstate NY near the Canadian border.


Bill

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Re: CS>CS Salve

[billvan]

Try,

http://www.elixa.com/silver/index.html


At 08:51 4/17/02, you wrote:
I once saw a website from which you could order a substance (some kind of 
inert gel) that you could mix with CS to make a salve, but have long since 
lost the link.  But I know it's out there somewhere.

Neil


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CS>Nebulizer

[billvan]

Try


http://www.drugstore.com

They have the Omron nebulizer for $69.95 no scrip needed.
Works great.


Dear Christiane,
Thanks for sharing your story. Your experience with CS is very encouraging 
and heartwarming. My question is: Where did you get your nebulizer? I have 
found one here in town, an electric model, but they won't sell it to me 
without a prescription.

Thanks so much,
Neil


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CS>HVAC and NO3

[billvan]

Hi "Ole Bob"

After your last letter in regards to HVAC with an open arc and the 
formation of NO3 causing a ph of between 3.5 and 4, I decided to take your 
advice and go to the local pet store. I got a nitrate NO3 test kit and 
tested my CS. The test showed at least 100ppm of NO3 which sounds a little 
high.


Would you be so kind as to describe your CO2 blanket method and the results 
as far as the formation of NO3 goes.


We have been using the open arc method for over two years now and i really 
don't want to dissolve my teeth.


I discussed this about a year and a half,or more, ago with Roger Altman 
when he was developing his sputtering method and he was experiencing the 
same types of ph and we couldn't figure out what was causing it.


Any help will be appreciated.

Bill

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CS>Fwd: Re: CS> HVAC

[billvan]

Hi Bob,

I would like a detailed description of your unit as I have never heard of it.


The Motherlode is powered by a 15,000 V transformer encased in a white 
metal box.  Two high voltage leads are inserted into two jacks in the cover 
of the one gallon brew container. these jacks are approx 5.5cm 
apart.  There are two 3/8" vent holes located just in front of these jacks. 
Inside the cover one stainless steel wire drops down to a 16 ga silver 
plate that has a wetted area of 3x5.5cm, the other stainless steel wire 
goes to a silver wedge, with the pointed side down that is held approx .5cm 
above the distilled water.  Brew time determines strength of approx 
3ppm/hour.  I normally run three hours. Perfectly clear with a very light 
to non existent tyndall effect.


When swished around in the mouth for 2 or 3 minutes it will etch your 
teeth. It

can be buffered with potassium citrate. Be careful if you use bicarbonate of
soda as the CS will become sunlight sensitive and turn reddish in color.

How did you measure the pH? I use a digital pH meter.


I have been using an analog pH meter Made by Brookstone.

I really appreciate your input,


Bill

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CS> HVAC

[billvan]

Ole Bob,



I make my CS with an HVAC generator called the Motherlode.  It uses the arc 
method and I end up with a ph of around 3.5 to 4 and a tds reading of about 
160. The start reading is always 2 or less.  There is no blanket just two 
small holes in the gallon lid for venting.  Would you guess that I have a 
High NO3 or what?

Thanks,


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Re: CS>FDA banning CS in dairy mastitis

[billvan]

Ignored, thanks for the heads up anyways.

At 00:55 10/31/01, you wrote:

Virus alert misfire...sorry, it was another mssg. Please ignore.
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>FDA banning CS in dairy mastitis




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Re: CS>FDA banning CS in dairy mastitis

[billvan]

At 23:13 10/30/01, you wrote:

Evening Thelma ~

> Could you explain why the FDA thinks using CS in dairy cows is unsafe?

I hear lots about mastitis on many lists, so it is my impression, it's
fairly common.  Luckily, we've never had to deal with it.  My guess is, as
always, there's no money to be made with CS.  Wouldn't want to put the
pharmaceutical companies out of business, now would we?*VBG*


Very common in dairy herds, especially those that use BST.



> Antibiotics aren't safe for human consumption either, and all antibiotics
I
> know of have a milk withhold time of two days at least.  So why would
> antibiotics be safe and CS not?

Antibiotics are not safe and CS is better just not lucrative like
antibiotics.

> Is the theory that CS stays in the body permanently?  And if so, is that
true?  Surely not...

I've been told CS is completely eliminated from the body within 3 weeks of
discontinuing use.  As you know from this list, many take it on a daily
basis.  If CS keeps milk from going sour, I can't imagine that there would
even be a withholding period at all.  After all, how many dairies actually
wait the withholding period?  Do they actually milk the cows treated for
mastitis for a few days and dump all the milk?  Hopefully, but my cynical
mind thinks many of them probably don't.


According to tests done by Dr. Roger Altman, CS is eliminated rather 
rapidly, in a matter of several hours, from the system.


Milk is tested by the farmer, the tank truck driver and the dairy for the 
presence of antibiotics.  If you have ever had to buy a tanker of milk you 
get very good at checking.

Julie & Critters


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Re: CS>People vs. animals

[billvan]

Thelma,


CS does work in human mastitis.  I believe it is in the archives somewheres.


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Re: CS>Re: Goats & Mastitis

[billvan]

That's true Bill, but first they have to find it...

At 08:29 10/29/01, you wrote:

FYI, the FDA banned the use of CS in treating dairy mastitis.

The FDA saaid the ban was necessary because it was "worried" that some 
people might turn blue from the possibility of residual CS in the milk 
"causing" arygria.


Of course, they are not worried about the 52 antibiotics which are 
required to treat the dairy cows, which DOES show up in the milk.  Talk 
about talking out of both sides of your official mouth!!!

- Original Message -
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To: 
silver-l...@eskimo.com 


Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 8:32 PM
Subject: CS>Re: Goats & Mastitis

I have treated dairy cows for mastitis by infusing the udder with 30cc 
of 10PPM CS twice a day after milkout.  After three days there was no 
further sign of mastitis, no witholding of milk, and small drop in bulk 
tank bacteria count.  I would strongly recommend against giving any 
ruminant CS orally unless followed up with a good probiotic three or 
four hours later.


Bill

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Re: CS>CS for mastitis in goats

[billvan]

I used a regular syringe with the tip from an antibiotic udder treatment 
syringe.


At 01:01 10/29/01, you wrote:

For treating mastitis in goats with CS, how did you infuse in the udder?
What did you put it in?  A regular syringe?  A needle?  Please give 
specifics on exactly how you did this.


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CS>Re: Goats & Mastitis

[billvan]

I have treated dairy cows for mastitis by infusing the udder with 30cc of 
10PPM CS twice a day after milkout.  After three days there was no further 
sign of mastitis, no witholding of milk, and small drop in bulk tank 
bacteria count.  I would strongly recommend against giving any ruminant CS 
orally unless followed up with a good probiotic three or four hours later.


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CS>Fwd: Re: CS>OT>>GENERIC CO-OP

[billvan]

Yep, I got my beta test products several weeks ago.  Everything that I have 
ordered since then has arrived without a problem.






question:  I signed up for the co-op beta-test and never received my "test 
kit".  Neiher did the 3 people I got to sign up for it. The co-op sent a 
newsletter stating that some people would inevitably fall between the 
cracks and not get theirs. Did anyone on this list sign up for the 
beta-test and receive their order?  Just wondering.  GT



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Re: CS>Suggested Use of a Gatorade-CS Mixture to Learn More About CS Properties

[billvan]

Roger,


Count me in,

William Van Stockum

bill...@cheerful.com


Original Message Follows
From: rogalt...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Suggested Use of a Gatorade-CS Mixture to Learn More About 
CS Properties

Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:56:23 EDT
In a message dated 6/16/01 11:23:43 AM EST, bober...@swbell.net writes:
<< Subj: Re: CS>Suggested Use of a Gatorade-CS Mixture to Learn More
About CSProperties
Date: 6/16/01 11:23:43 AM EST
From: bober...@swbell.net (Robert L. Berger)
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Roger;
This smay sound a bit arrogant, but I believe that my HVAC ARC CO2 method is
one
of the more consistant methods for making nearly total ionic CS. Besides I
have
the spect. to test it, and if desired I will get a pH meter.
So, if desired I would supply the CS required.
"Ole Bob"
>>
Bob: That doesn't sound arrogant at all, just a damn good suggestion. Another
advantage of you being the supplier is that you have experience with using
H2O2 to decrease any remaining silver particulate down to practically zero.
Perhaps to further simplify our test, you could supply only 100% ionic
silver, so folks could use it straight as one prep, and mix it with 2:1 with
Gatorade as the other prep. That way we would be comparing only 2 types of
preps. This approach would greatly simplify the interpretation of the 
results.
SO HOW ABOUT IT FOLKS. HOW MANY OF YOU VOLUNTEER TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS 
STUDY?

Bob, how much CS do you think would be sufficient to ship to people, a
gallon, or so? I think it would be appropriate that those who wish to
participate to agree to send you enough money to cover all your cost
(shipping, containers, any labels, packing materials, etc.). To keep shipping
cost down, I think we would have to limit participation to the contiguous USA
and Canada. I'm glad you're in the middle of the country so that shipping
costs will be kept to a minimum. Another idea to keep things as simple as
possible, how about everyone agreeing to contribute the same regardless where
they live. That way, you won't have to waste time figuring individual
shipping costs. Another possibility to substantially reduce shipping costs is
to have you make, say, a 30 PPM brew, and let us reduce it down to 5. BTW, if
you underestimate your costs, there is no reason we couldn't have a second
round of contributions. Well, it's time to get off my soapbox and let others
contribute their ideas. Roger
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Re: CS>On Making High PPM HVAC CS

[billvan]

At 12:52 4/19/01, you wrote:

rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

>  If I were still on th efarm with my small herd they would drink CS and
>  the FDA be damned.  What they don't know wont hurt them.
>

I believe they can test for the silver in the milk.

>
>  If you want to give CS to cows then you had better learn a lot about
>  HVAC ARC CO2 CS, because you will need a lot of it and it can be made in
>  very high strengths that can be diluted.

Actually, I think a 12 Volt supply connected to silver electrodes mounted in
their drinking trough would work quite well.  First of all you can make the
electrodes as big as you want to get sufficient current to make lots, and
second, the tap water allows a fairly high rate of production due to high
conductivity.  Only problem is silver compounds can get made which could cause
the cows to turn black, but heck, just pretend they are black angus.

Marshall
Hi All,


If you want to starve all your cows,  let them drink CS and kill all the 
bacteria in the rumen that do all the digestive work on their food.  I 
think this type of cure would be worse than shooting them.  Might be better 
to IV them and topically apply CS.


Bill




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Re: CS>Re:triethylenemelamine,was CS>Colloidal Silver Ointment?

[billvan]

Hi Bob,

The ingredient in the salve is tri ETHANOL amine not tri  Ethylene melamine.

Bill

At 03:21 7/2/00 -0500, you wrote:

Hi listers,

Tri-eth-yl-ene-mel-amine: A cytotoxic crystalline compound C9H12N6 used as an
antineoplastic drug. Also called TEM.
 Antineoplastic, inhibiting or preventing the growth and spread of 
neoplasms or

malignant cells (cancer).
 Neoplasm, a new growth of tissue serving no physiological function, TUMOR,
CANCER.

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Re: CS> HVAC

[billvan]

Hi Bob,

Would you mind telling me a few things?  I am interested in :
1.  The quantity of DW used for the run
2.  The voltage
3.  The size of the submersed electrode

I make approx 12 PPM using 1 gal DW, 15,000v,  submerged electrode size 1 
1/2"x 1" x18 ga,  3 hrs run time, arc electrode is a pointed wedge shape 
approx 3/16" above the water.


The end PH is about 4, crystal clear with a very weak TE,  Slight ozone 
smell during production, and a fairly strong metallic taste.


Could the residual ozone could be turning the paper brown?

Billvan


At 17:47 6/4/00 -0500, you wrote:

Good Evening Roger;

Just queery about HVAC  cs. I made some using the arc method and had a 
17.6 ppm

and a conductance of 1125  in 3 hours!
The pH is about 4, and when I sniffed the containor is smelled like nitric 
acid.

I covered the container with a white paper
table napkin and in about 3 hours the portion over the CS had taken on a light
brown color. The CS is crystal clear with a very weak T.E.

What do I have???

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Re: CS>Producing CS using HVAC Probably Restructures the Water it is Madein

[billvan]

Hi Roger  and Ivan,

My HVAC CS typically has a ph of  3.5 - 4.5  measured with an electronic ph 
meter or with ph strips.  I don't think that defective measuring equipment 
is the problem or answer. This is using the "arc" method of producing 
CS.  I do not know the ph from the submerged electrode method of producing 
HVAC.


Bill

At 17:25 4/25/00 +1200, you wrote:

Hi Roger,

I have made some comments below...

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From: 

> I have been puzzled by the consistant observation that CS produced
by the
> HVAC method has a pH on the order of 3.5 - 4.8. The actual pH found
probably
> depends on the ppm of the CS produced, and on the technical details
and
> operating parameters of the HVAC process itself. However, these
operational
> details are irrelevant to the point at hand.
>
> I have a background in thermodynamics so the idea of "activity" as
opposed to
> "concentration" is not foreign to me. You can appreciate the
distinction
> somewhat if you recall that ppm is really a measure of overall
concentration
> of, say, silver, but the "activity" of the silver at a given ppm
will vary
> greatly if we are talking about silver ion, or silver particles of
0.001
> micron, or 0.1 micron in size, or if these particles are charged or
uncharged.
>
> The reference electrodes used to measure pH do NOT measure hydrogen
ion concen
> tration, but actually measure the hydrogen ion activity. In dilute
to
> moderately dilute solutions (which represent most of the
applications for
> these reference electrodes), activity and concentration are
practically
> identical. Now here comes the exciting part. I have prepared HVAC
that
> contains about 10 ppm CS and has a pH of 4.8. By any reasonable
measure this
> product is a dilute solution. If it were to contain, for example,
10%
> hydrogen peroxide (which has a pH no lower than 5.3), tasting only a
fraction
> of a teaspoon would be a VERY unpleasant experience (believe me, I
tried it
> with only a 3% solution and it definitely gets your attention).
However, my
> HVAC CS product is practically tastless. So I believe it is safe to
rule out
> the presence of all but minute quantities of hydrogen peroxide
(which, of
> course, would have a negligible effect on pH). Since my HVAC process
uses
> high purity silver electrodes and distilled water ONLY, there is
virtually NO
> OTHER species which could cause the pH to be so low. Therefore, the
only
> reasonable conclusion is the the activity of the hydrogen ion has be
altered
> in essentially pure water. In other words, the structure of the
water itself
> has been substantially changed. Now let's take a closer look at how
this
> could have happened.
>
> The HVAC process operates in excess of 10,000 volts. The particles
produced
> have been found to be at the low end of the micron scale when
compared to the
> size of LVDC CS particles. In addition, HVAC CS has been found to be
quite
> stable over extended periods of time. Therefore, it is reasonable to
conclude
> that these particles are not only highly charged, but are able to
retain
> their charge indefinitely.
> If all of the above observations are accurate, then it appears that
when
> these highly charged CS particles break away from the silver
electrode, they
> have a very strong polarizing effect on the surrounding water so
that normal
> H2O molecules (water is essentially undissociated and therefore in
molecular
> form) become more like polarized +HOH- molecules. The OH- side if
the
> molecule is attracted to the positively charged aggregated silver
particles,
> thus leaving the H+ side "sticking out"  which causes the activity
of H+ to
> be greatly enhanced. Incidently, the mechanism of surrounding the CS
with
> polarized water molercules goes a long way to explains why HVAC CS
is so
> stable over time.

Roger as I understand it, the water molecule is naturally polarised
taking this arrangement  [H+] --- [O(2-)] --- [H+], ie having a
negatively charged oxygen head and two positively charged hydrogen
tails (the tails forming a ~105 deg angle).

Silver ions become hydrated and form micelles, ie are surrounded by
water molecules, in this case with their tails pointing out. Is there
any reason to think that this is not what is happening?
This happens with LVDC CS also, which, if well made is every bit as
stable as well made HVAC CS.

There is probably some other reason causing the low pH reading,
perhaps ranging from CO2 inclusion to AgOH production, or possibly
faulty / inappropriate pH measuring equipment.


> Therefore, HVAC CS MAY have ADDITIONAL MEDICINAL PROPERITIES (there
is one
> vender I've found on the Internet who sells "Restructed Water" which
is
> supposed to have health benefits) because the water itself has been
> restructured. If anyone would like to test this theory by
experimenting with
> my HVAC CS please get in touch with me, and I'll send you a 1 oz
sample. All
> I ask is that you send along $3 to cover shipping costs.

Restructured water, rest

Re: CS>Colour and silver oxide (long) was CS Makers.

[billvan]

At 17:14 4/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Stephen Quinto wrote:
>
>> I think it was Marshall who pointed out that AC reverses polarity at the
>> rate of 60 cycles per second, at least here in the States.  And that
>> consequently there is no anode and cathode since each electrode alternates
>> in that role.
>> The implication being that the colloidal particles that might otherwise (in
>> a DC process for example) possess the charge that gives them the catalytic
>> quality of a true colloid as opposed to the flatter or neutral qualities of
>> elemental silver may be lacking.
>> Stephen
>
>I do not believe this analysis is correct.
>
>I believe the situation must be analysed as a dynamic situation, as
opposed to
>a static, or near static situation as can the LVDC method.
>
>Two things happen differently with HVAC.  First, since the polarity is
>continually alternating, both oxygen and hydrogen are generated at each
>electrode.  Since both of these elements are much more active chemically than
>silver, they react with each other, instead of reacting with the silver.
This
>is why HVAC can produce clear CS with no tarnishing of the electrodes and no
>production of sludge or other compounds of silver.
>
>The second important thing that happens is that we put a strong electric
charge
>on the silver ion as it leaves the anode.  The strong field of several
thousand
>volts per inch causes the ion to quickly leave the area next to the electrode
>where the silver ion density is so high as to cause rapid aggregation into
>unduly large particles.  However some aggregation does take place.
>
>So we end up with positively charged particles that leave the anode as
ions but
>quickly become particles of some number of atoms each.  This is true also of
>the LVDC method, although the rate at which the ions move away from the anode
>is about 1,000 times faster for the HVAC method due to the higher voltage.
 In
>the HVAC method at some point the polarity switches and the particles are
>attracted back toward the electrode.  However there are 3 effects that
prevent
>the vast majority of particles from reaching the electrode, which now is the
>cathode.
>
>1.  Particle size.  Ions can travel faster than the larger colloidal
>particles.  Since they left the electrode as ions, then aggregated somewhat a
>distance from the electrode, the rate at which they moved away from the
>electrode is faster than the rate at which they return.
>
>2. Charge.  Each particle has a positive charge on it.  Thus each particle
>reacts to a sum of the electric field provided by the voltage on the
electrodes
>PLUS an additional force of dispersion from an area of higher
concentration to
>that of a lower concentration.  This also results in a higher velocity of the
>particles away from the electrode, than toward it.
>
>3.  Convection.  HVAC put significant amounts of energy in the water near the
>electrodes.  This results in heating of this area, and strong convection
>currents which carry the particles away from the electrode toward cooler
areas.
>
>The result is that a colloid can be produced that has no sludge, and has
highly
>charged particles.
>
>Bless you,
>
>Marshall

That is exactly what I get. A clear CS, very little tarnishing of the plate
that is in the water, no sludge, a ph of between 4.6 and 4.9, and a very
light tyndall effect with no or very few sparklies.  This is a very stable
product and I store it in plastic 1 gallon DW jugs. I have some that is
over 8 months old and has had no apparant change.

Bill
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Re: CS>Colour and silver oxide (long) was CS Makers.

[billvan]

Hi Chuck,

the directions say that if the water rises up to the silver wedge increase
the distance until a stable arc can be maintained and then after about five
minutes you should have enough silver in the water to lower to 3/16ths and
maintain the arc.
BTW  Always have liked your sig line
Bill

At 11:58 4/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Are you sure you've adjusted it correctly?
>I think you'll find that if you lower your "anode" a tad, that the water will
>rise to enclose it in a inverted cone when you apply voltage.
>That's how I do HVAC CS.
>
>   Chuck
>If it doesn't work, use a bigger hammer. If it breaks, it needed fixing
anyway.
>
>On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 08:28:18 -0400, bill...@cheerful.com wrote:
>
>>The "Motherlode" uses HVAC and the cathode is immersed but the anode is
>>suspended approx 3/16ths of an inch above the water and arcs to the water.
>>It makes 1 gal of approx 8ppm in 2 hrs.  It uses 15,000v.
>>
>>Bill
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Re: CS>Colour and silver oxide (long) was CS Makers.

[billvan]

Only what air is in the top three inches of the one gallon bottle and what
might come in through the two 1/4 inch vent holes in the cap.

Bill

At 11:57 4/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
>###  Is the electrode exposed to open air or is it isolated?
> KD'C
>>
>>The "Motherlode" uses HVAC and the cathode is immersed but the anode is
>>suspended approx 3/16ths of an inch above the water and arcs to the water.
>>It makes 1 gal of approx 8ppm in 2 hrs.  It uses 15,000v.
>>
>>Bill
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Re: CS>Colour and silver oxide (long) was CS Makers.

[billvan]

Hi Marshall,

Not being very tech adept I was trying, not well, to say that one
conductor, which is a plate approx 1"x2", is auspended in the water.  The
other conductor is a wedge shaped piece of silver with the pointed end
suspended approx. 3/16" above the water and arcing down to it.  There is a
definite ozone smell while the unit is operating.

Sorry for the confusion.
Bill
At 10:35 4/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
>bill...@cheerful.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Ivan,
>>
>> The "Motherlode" uses HVAC and the cathode is immersed but the anode is
>> suspended approx 3/16ths of an inch above the water and arcs to the water.
>> It makes 1 gal of approx 8ppm in 2 hrs.  It uses 15,000v.
>
>This is contradictory.  If the system is AC then there is no "anode" and
>"cathode".  They would alternate 60 times per second.
>
>Marshall
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CS>Colour and silver oxide (long) was CS Makers.

[billvan]

Hi Ivan,

You said:
>*** Again, the electrodes must arc to create ozone or H202, this is
>acutally closer to Bredig's system than most realise, he arced
>submerged DC electrodes, if my source is correct. I know of no HVAC
>colloidal silver generator whose electrodes do not contact the water,
>at least after start up.
>

The "Motherlode" uses HVAC and the cathode is immersed but the anode is
suspended approx 3/16ths of an inch above the water and arcs to the water.
It makes 1 gal of approx 8ppm in 2 hrs.  It uses 15,000v.

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Re: CS>STRUCTURED WATER - HVAC Results

[billvan]

Ivan,

I may have missed something somewheres along the line.  My Motherlode uses
an arc at 15kv to produce CS. TDS-1 at start is 1-2 at the end it reads
128-135, 3hr run approx 12ppm according to Dr. Ripley, very light tyndall
with a fairly strong metallic taste.

Are you saying that I may be producing AgO? instead of CS or does a heavy
Tyndall with no change in TDS-1 readings indicate AgO?

Thanks,
Bill

At 11:57 10/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:54:41 +1300, "Ivan Anderson"  wrote:
>
>>Chuck,
>>
>>If you have a strong Tyndall, then I suspect your TDS1 is kaput or you
>>are not manufacturing charged particles. Maybe you are arcing and
>>producing AgO.
>>
>>Ivan
>
>Absolutely no arcing! Kept looking for it.
>   Chuck
>I can't be late--I just got here  
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Re: CS>article

[billvan]

Karen,

Would you please send a copy to me also.

Thanks,
Bill
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At 10:11 9/11/99 -0500, you wrote: 

To all you patient people who wanted "Our Mightiest Germ Fighter"

My sweet daughter typed the article for you (in Word Perfect) and put it on a disk.  Then I took over and e-mailed it individually to each of you, but it must not have gone through.  That was 2 nights ago.  I'll keep trying!
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Re: CS>re pH & digestion

[billvan]

At 06:17 8/27/99 -0700, you wrote:

>Dr. Reams - I will find out the particulars), another book called, "The
>curse causeless shall not come", by another person whom I will know his
>name within 2 weeks (it's being sent to me). 

Nord Davis, I believe is the author.

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Re: CS> burn treatment

[billvan]

Ron,

Did the same thing with an acetylene torch last year.  Used vitamin E oil
and then a loose fisting gauze pad saturated with CS.  Worked like a charm.
 About two weeks no scar no sign of the burn.  Size was about 1 1/2 x 1 1/2
on the back of my hand (wasn't wearing gloves while cutting and became
distracted) looked like a char coaled steak.

Bill

At 23:49 6/6/99 +0500, you wrote:
>Well, guess I can now try CS on a severe burn. While finishing up a
>water well on the side of a mountain I was burned by the exhaust of the
>drive engine. The wound is 2" x 1/2" and into the flesh. Put CS on
>within 10 mnutes and then a Aloe patch. Will take a look at it in the
>morning. At work we will be removing an old septic system so an open
>wound is not good.
>
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Re: CS>Oramedics

[billvan]

I use 1 oz of 10/12PPM CS mixed with two capfuls of 3% drugstore hydrogen
peroxide in 600 ml of water and a water pik to control gingivitis.  I try
to do this twice a day and have found that on subsequent visits to the
dentist that the gum recess appears to be receding slowly. Most areas have
gone from 4 to 7mm to 3 to 6mm and no bad breath or morning mouth.  Bill


At 08:32 10/25/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Dr. Nara , in his book, MONEY BY THE MOUTHFUL, says that  cavaties,
>gingivitis, and pyorrhea are all the same disease and are caused by two
>bacteria-Streptococcus mutans and Lactobacillus acidophilus in the mouth. I
>am about half through it, and it has occured to me that a CS mouthwash
>should be very effective with these two critters. Any comments?  God, Gold,
>and Guns made America great!  Jolly
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Re: tds-1 reading

[billvan]

Hi List,
The last batch I made using my HVAC Motherlode showed a TDS 1 reading of
143, my last batch of 27vDC showed 23.

Bill Van Stockum

At 18:20 8/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>On Aug 20 Dick Pope wrote:
>Hi List, Has anybody got a higher reading on their tds-1 than 34 on home
>
>made collidal siver from distilled water? Thanks.
>
>Nope.  Not yet.
>By the way, I've been away for 10 days visiting family.  Missed you all
>though.  Time to get back to work.  I've got over 250 messages to plow
>through.  Leaving has its disadvantages.
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Ulcers

[billvan]

Hi,

I have a friend that has ulcers in his lower esophagus(?).  Does anyone
know if CS will help this situation and if so what should the protocol be?

BTW I have a HVAC CS machine called the Mother Lode manufactured by Dr.
Ripley at

drrip...@rconnect.com   The machine can be seen at

http://www.register.com/motherlode/

It operates at 15,000 vac and works very much the same  as Bruce's.  The
only thing I don't care for is the PH at the completion of the run.  After
2 hrs a gallon of 7-8 ppm according to the paperwork that came with it,
Tests out to 63 ppm with a TDS 1 and a ph of 3.7.  ph at the start was 7.0
and tds 1 or less.  Dr Ripley's machine uses a silver plate as the cathode
and a small silver wedge as the anode.  He does not recommend that you alow
a cone to jump up to this but rather keep it high enough so that you have a
visible arc during the whole process.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Bill




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