Re: CSSilver-resistant micro-organisms?
Well... If we soon se a silver-resistant strain of the flu, that can be genetically traced to these bacteria, then that's rock solid proof for a class action suite against the vaccine flu flim flam business... Will they pick up on this tid bit and promptly breed a new flu strain using part of the rna dna of these bacteria ? Only time will tell. However if it is done, the charges should be both treason, and genecide. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Trem To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: CSSilver-resistant micro-organisms? Hi Mathew, DO you happen to have any more info on the outbreak? That is, did they use CS internally, how much, etc. Or was it some other silver compound like MSP? I tried to get the article mentioned by Warren in his book but the search function for the company he mentioned in his book is out of order and no note of how long it'll be down. I find it fishy that silver doesn't kill ALL bacteria except the ones we speak about in silver mines and their environs. I wouldn't be surprised to find it was a sham to put CS in a bad light. I wasn't aware any allopaths were using silver in 1999 and admitted to it...especially to knock it. Sounds fishy to me. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: Matthew McCann PE To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: [silver_list] CSSilver-resistant micro-organisms? Hi, Marshall. Thanks for your information about the silver-mine micro-organisms. The outbreak of Ag+ resistant Salmonella in Massachusetts was reported in 1999. Maybe it was a fluke. Has anything like it been observed and reported since 1999? It is a concern, to be sure. But judging from news reports today, we have bigger fish to fry, pronto. New reports indicate that influenza vaccine stocks are low and perhaps depleted , sooner than expected. And it seems the vaccines were not formulated for the A-Fujian-H3N2 strain, which is expected to be the main culprit this season (which runs to May.) Matthew
Re: CSSilvergen SG7
Hi Simon :) These generators are very common sense. I have one too, and it makes the best C.S. of any system I've had the chance to examine. It's maintenance free, and can make so much C.S., that you could litterally put down the plague in a medium sized town with it. What you have is not just a simple cs. generator, it's a poste-9-11 - terrorism survival tool. Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Simon Heywood To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: CSSilvergen SG7 I Have just finished making my first 5 gallon batch of Colloidal Silver using Trems SG7 Pro. The hole production only took 2hrs, which has resulted in a very high Ionic CS. First impressions are that this is a great generator. Simon (Downunder) -- Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Click here -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSDiabetes
Try making very spicey indian meat dishes, that use honey, not refined sugar, I think thats easier on you... - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: Re: CSDiabetes It was about 2 months on Atkins before my wife was able to completely get off her pills. She went from the doctor saying that he was going to have to increase her gluberide again, to taking none at all. Marshall Charles Sutton wrote: Only if you stay on it! I have always had an uncontrollable addiction to ice cream. Sometimes eating a half gallon per day. Since I have been on it now for a while the sugar cravings have dissapeared. I hope they stay gone. I think the urgency of the condition this time, instead of just being overweight, is keeping me going. I have to get the sugar levels down in 30 days or the Dr. is going to put me on meds.. . - Original Message - From: mamapug mama...@netzero.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:55 PM Subject: Re: CSDiabetes That's the first thing that I did. Been on almost zero carbs for about 2 weeks now. I have used the Atkins diet to lose weight since 1968. Have lost 11 lbs in 12 days, but blood sugar still in 140 to 170 range. I have always heard that the Atkins diet would cure diabetes, and I'm going to cure it.. Since 1968??? Doesn`t work, then, does it? Marshalee
Re: CSDiabetes
Just toss a table spoon of baking soda in a glass of distilled water, hold your nose and drink... You'll Be alkaline in no time... - Original Message - From: Robb Allen rube211...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:28 PM Subject: Re: CSDiabetes This is what I said...this is a copy/paste. I have heard some people say that the Atkins diet makes people prime candidates for cancer then I said . The argument is that it lowers your ph lowering the ph because of all the meat and cheese would mosts likely lower your ph making you more suceptable to cancerthat is what I saidRobb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:48 PM Subject: Re: CSDiabetes Well this is the exchange: I wrote: I have never heard that before. Why would anyone think that carbohydrates would decrease the risk of cancer? Your answer was: The argument is that it lowers your ph.which may be true..? So I totally confused. If you say that sugar lowers ph, and that prevents cancer, I would read that as saying that low ph is good. How are you interpreting it? Marshall Robb Allen wrote: ummmnoI didn'tI have been saying all along that a ph decrease is bad..I'm well aware of how ph works...Robb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: Re: CSDiabetes You said that sugars lower your pH. That means they make you more acid. I say that acid makes you more likely to get cancer. You said that more sugars make you less likely to get cancer. Thus that is opposite of what I am saying. We have a disconnect here somewhere. Marshall Robb Allen wrote: Thats what I just said.Robb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:26 AM Subject: Re: CSDiabetes Everything I have read indicates that low pH increases the cancer risk, not reduces it. And that in some cases simply raising pH will eliminate some cancers. That is why everyone wants to alkalinize the body. Acid not only increases cancer, but give lots of other problems such as brittle bones, arthritis and kidney stones. Marshall Robb Allen wrote: The argument is that it lowers your ph.which may be true..?I can't seem to stay on it so I can't say.besides my ph is already low anywayRobb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: CSDiabetes I have never heard that before. Why would anyone think that carbohydrates would decrease the risk of cancer? Marshall Robb Allen wrote: I have heard some people say that the Atkins diet makes people prime candidates for cancer..any comments on this?.Robb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:51 PM Subject: Re: CSDiabetes My wife use to have type II diabetes. She no longer takes any medicine after going on the Atkins diet. Marshall Charles Sutton wrote: I was diagnosed with type II diabetes last week. I guess CS doesn't prevent it. I hear the feds say there is no cure, so I know there is one somewhere. any clues..?? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAllergic to CS?
:) Yes it's very tough sorting through it, but it sure helps if you can find a MD who's at least a little open minded... :) Al - Original Message - From: Rowena Evans rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:34 AM Subject: Re: CSAllergic to CS? Husband of friend here had big scare, v aggressive kidney cancer of a type caused by petrochemicals (worked for years in garage, forecourt also). Has done well (is also taking CS and H2O2). Went for checkup. Specialist said he would not consider any information gathered from the Internet. Wife said she had questions to ask, and needed answers. Well, where is she supposed to get information? Sorry Drs, you believe what you were taught, as you should be able to, but who is really pulling the strings? On the other hand, so many Drs are open to less pharmaceutical solutions and tending to more natural or safe methods. So much to learn, life so short, vested interests so aggressive. Rowena level of biological stealth ! You will have to be very agressive about demanding that level of medical compitence. It will not ever be readilly offered to you. Md's are no longer held to their medical oaths, only their credits debits. If your a MD reading this, then sorry, but take a good long look in the mirror, because your arrogant creed has legally murdered quite a few of my kin. I considder the great majority of them to be both money gluttons, and absolute unadultrated cowards. They know quite well, what they are doing, and don't give even a little bit of a damn about it. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStone Deodorant
Yes Rowena ! Aluminum sure darn well is a toxin. Tragically some poor suckers still cook their food on pans made of it. See Back to Eden Jethro Kloss Book on How cooking with or any biological internal exposure to Aluminum is highly toxic. Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: Rowena Evans rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 2:45 AM Subject: Re: CSStone Deodorant I bought these for a few years, and was a bit puzzled by an odour on them. Then my daughter started complaining that they smelled of her brother. Around the same time I saw on another forum that one needed to wipe the tops over with an antibacterial solution to kill the sweat bacteria they picked up. It did seem to work wiping them over, but I was further put off when I found that these natural stones contained aluminium. (Wasn't that a Hulda Clark observation?) I hadn't been able to find out what the ingredients were, though had a surprise on one to see the word alum. They are just standing in the bathroom cupboards now. What is potassium alum, then? Where do they get it from? To what degree can it be called natural? Rowena A good alternative is a deodorant stone/crystal. I was amazed at how well these work when I first tried them. They are made of potassium alum which kill the bacteria so there is no odor. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSulphur
My Sypathy goes out to you Grant, I've some friends that have that in their well, and it's really tough to drink... Maybe you could set up on your roof, a solar distillery for drinking water... ??? Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Grant nes...@shaw.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: Re: CSSulphur Aha: But there is no overwhelmingiron in our well, only overwhelming Sulphur Big time sulphur Grant colloidal.sil...@cox.net wrote: Hi Grant :) I would read up on the difference between Inorganic-Sulphur / Organic-Sulpher. I don't believe the body can utilise Inorganic-Sulpher, but The Organic version is readaly usable by the body, because a plant has attached it to a organic molecule chain. The stuff comming out of your well is probly not doing you any more good, than all the Inorganic Iron comming out of ours, but dammit, it sure tastes like crap ! Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Grant nes...@shaw.ca To: Silver - List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:06 PM Subject: CSSulphur You know: I have been reading for eons now that sulphur is beneficial. However I happen to be on well water which isvery high in sulphur... I drink it every day, and wonder if the Sulphur is perhaps depleting something in my body ?? Any opinions ?? Grant.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAllergic to CS?
Hello :) Are you historically allergic to waring silver jewelry ? If so the C.S. may be tough for you to tollerate. Also you may have a pretty bad build up of toxic anti-perpirant chemicals in your skin under your arms... Yes by all means use a gental solution... If you are experiencing this durring excercise, then common sense dictates it's simple chaffing from friction. Try a little corn starch powder under there before each workout... Best Regards, Al - Original Message - From: kittykat kittyka...@foxvalley.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: Re: CSAllergic to CS? Is anyone allergic to CS as a deodorant? Would cutting the CS with DW help reduce the rash? I am using about 20-22 ppm CS made with the Silver Puppy. Debbie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSulphur
Hi Grant :) I would read up on the difference between Inorganic-Sulphur / Organic-Sulpher. I don't believe the body can utilise Inorganic-Sulpher, but The Organic version is readaly usable by the body, because a plant has attached it to a organic molecule chain. The stuff comming out of your well is probly not doing you any more good, than all the Inorganic Iron comming out of ours, but dammit, it sure tastes like crap ! Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Grant nes...@shaw.ca To: Silver - List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:06 PM Subject: CSSulphur You know: I have been reading for eons now that sulphur is beneficial. However I happen to be on well water which isvery high in sulphur... I drink it every day, and wonder if the Sulphur is perhaps depleting something in my body ?? Any opinions ?? Grant.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAllergic to CS?
One additional note here... What at first may appear as a topical aversion to C.S. may actually be an invasive imbedded in the dermal layers, as wall as in the inner body. The invasive's destruction by the silver, is what produces, the mimmicked appearance of an allergy, but in actuality the c.s. is ridding your body of an invasive that has the ability to mimic your body. You then stop trying to heal your self so that you can enable the pathogen to continue living in you and ultimatly you succumb to it 100%='s Death... It will take a MD., who is not the typical idiot selling pills, to discern this level of biological stealth ! You will have to be very agressive about demanding that level of medical compitence. It will not ever be readilly offered to you. Md's are no longer held to their medical oaths, only their credits debits. If your a MD reading this, then sorry, but take a good long look in the mirror, because your arrogant creed has legally murdered quite a few of my kin. I considder the great majority of them to be both money gluttons, and absolute unadultrated cowards. They know quite well, what they are doing, and don't give even a little bit of a damn about it. You are awlays better off trusting a scientist with a good biology, chemistry, and electrical background, as they have often not sold their soul... Example Robert Beck ( Doctorate in Physics) NOT MEDICINE... OF all MD's in the US not even one came forward to the public, with what Robert Beck proved to be common knowedge to the MD trade. This is literal proof that 100's of 1000's of MD's nation-wide have with certain intention, and completely lucid consciousness betrayed their medical oaths 100%... Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz Providence, RI - Original Message - From: SilverTedEBear r75jqs...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:19 AM Subject: Re: CSAllergic to CS? A good alternative is a deodorant stone/crystal. I was amazed at how well these work when I first tried them. They are made of potassium alum which kill the bacteria so there is no odor. I had to try it as regular deodorant was starting to make me break out. I've since switched to the liquid form in a spray pump bottle as the stones tend to break up too easily from wetting them repeatedly. A couple of spritzes under each arm and on each foot to stop my feet from getting stinky and I'm good to go for the day. You can find it at just about any health food store or online. Their website is www.deodorantstones.com 'Ted' --- colloidal.silver-at-cox.net |SilverList| onwbhmvos...@sneakemail.com wrote: Hello :) Are you historically allergic to waring silver jewelry ? If so the C.S. may be tough for you to tollerate. Also you may have a pretty bad build up of toxic anti-perpirant chemicals in your skin under your arms... Yes by all means use a gental solution... If you are experiencing this durring excercise, then common sense dictates it's simple chaffing from friction. Try a little corn starch powder under there before each workout... Best Regards, Al - Original Message - From: kittykat kittyka...@foxvalley.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: Re: CSAllergic to CS? Is anyone allergic to CS as a deodorant? Would cutting the CS with DW help reduce the rash? I am using about 20-22 ppm CS made with the Silver Puppy. Debbie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew member--IV silver, lyme, candida
Go look up a guy named Trem on this sites messages... He runs www.Silvergen.com . I suggest you get an SG-7 model, which makes 5 gallons of 20+ ppm C.S. crystal clear. Drink 1/2 gallon a day for the next half a year minimum. Also go imeadiaitly to the pet store and get yourself a fishtank ozonation kit. Use it to Ozonate, at least two glasses of chilled-distilled-water per day. This will neutralize your Herxzimers syndrom. About your candida... That is probably the fact that all those previous antibiotics and drugs you used for the Lyme-Dis. litterally killed off most / all of your immune system. C.S. does not kill off your immune system. It acts as an additional one. Also about the herxzimers, obtain a large industrial tank of oxigen, and a tank valve, a long peice of hose for it, and a mask. (make sure you have some ventilation in the room) Now set you self up with the oxigen, and a execise cycle, gently riding the cycle for around 1/2 hour while breathing the oxigen. This is a very powefull way to assist your body in eliminating herxzimer, provides you with greatly increased energy for the day, and the oxigen is toxic to the bad pathogens in your body too. Don't waste your money buying medical grade oxigen, it's the same damn thing as the industrial grade, and it's absolutly not any purer. If you ask them where they sell the medical grade oxigen, the will most certainly lie to you about this fact... Well it's you pocket my my friend... Finally, switch over from drinking or cooking with any form of water, to only pure-100%-distilled water. I'll provide a few other tips, if you e-mail me directly... - Original Message - From: mamapug To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:37 AM Subject: Re: CSNew member--IV silver, lyme, candida Hello Hi, Kell, and welcome. I`m a former Lymie myself!! This is my first post to this group. I am battling chronic lyme disease after only minor success with antibiotics for one year. I took Doxy for 6 years!!! Barely kept me alive, and made me put on 45 pounds. They never tell us about the weight gain! :o( In the past few months I have seen some improvement using CS administered IV. The silver is 23 ppm and I am taking about 60-80 cc twice a week. Try taking it by mouth, works fine. Last Thurs, I took the silver and late that night thought I was having a worse than normal herx. By later the next day, I had developled a mild sore throat with some whitness on the tongue and some ulcerations around my tonsils and some smaller ulercations on my throat. Along with these visible symptoms, I was completely drained. Despite taking Diflucan, garlic, oregano oil, candex for the past 5 days I am still suffering from this. I NEVER had this kind of reaction with antibiotics CS kills candida, doesn`t cause it. If you take it orally, and let it sit in the mouth for 4 minutes, it will kill off the candida. Don`t forget to get Vitamin C, a good B complex, and minerals to help the body heal. Don`t use anything with caffeine, not even chocolate. I have read some of the archives and there seem to be conflicting reports whether silver causes or helps fight candida. In my case, it seemed to have caused it. Since I am a newbie, I would appreciate any advice. Am I taking too much ? Is there more risk for candida taken IV ? Anyway, this has been a discouraging episode because I can tell that silver is potentially a big gun in fighting lyme and I hate to stop. Thank you. I`m in the doesn`t cause it camp, obviously, but I never took CS by IV, there is no need. Please tell me, what CS are you taking? Did you make it yourself? Do you take vitamins and minerals, and if so, how much of each? Hang in there, friend, CS will work, I`m proof that it does. Do you want me to email you my story? Or better yet, can I call you? I`d prefer to chat, and I have 1 cent a minute long distance! If so, email me privately with your number. I`m glad to help!!! Love, Marshalee (in Provo, Utah) Kell Wilson
Re: CSElectroporation and toxicity
Yes there are some tricks to doing this better... Rather than just ozonating distilled chilled water, go buy a very large tank of industrial oxigen right away, have her sit on a comfortable stationery execise cycle for @ an hour, while breathing moderate oxigen through the mask. There is a lot more here, but I would rather you just call me at : (401) 272-9178 Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:58 AM Subject: CSElectroporation and toxicity List, My friend's wife continues to take conventional chemotherapy for stomach cancer (metastatic) with no change in the prognosis thus far. (She will not live past March, say the MDs of a leading private hospital. ) My friend has ordered a SOTA Silver Pulser to do the Beck Protocol, but worries about the electroporation risks.I could advise only that he proceed slowly; I think it would be good to wait until the chemo is finished, but of course with the grim prognosis he is loathe to wait. I wonder if any members with actual clinical experience in this matter could offer advice, either on list of privately. Thanks in advance. JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaintenance Dose
1/8 - 1/4 gallon per day most in the early am on enpty stomach. Been doing it for over 1-year now... No flu's no colds, no illness what-so-ever has even touched me since starting this. Also a severe toe nail fungus has receeded slowly to about 1/8 of it's former infection area. The fungus goes slowly, becaus it's inside the nail... Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: Re: CSMaintenance Dose Garnet 11/7/03 10:33 AM Wrote: Just curious, what is everyone's daily maintenance dose, for those who use it preventatively, and what ppm? *** When I'm in maintenance mode it's 2oz of 5ppm first thing in the AM on an empty stomach -- hopefully no contact with stomach acid which would change the CS. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaintenance Dose
1/8 - 1/4 gallon per day, @ 20-35 p.p.m., most in the early am on enpty stomach. Been doing it for over 1-year now... No flu's no colds, no illness what-so-ever has even touched me since starting this. I live in a large building where the flus in the city regularly circulate though all of our building population. Every one else gets these flu's exept me. those who are intelligent enough to drink the stuff when I offer it to them. Also my severe toe nail fungus has receeded slowly to about 1/8 of it's former infection area. The fungus goes slowly, becaus it's inside the nail... but it's almost history, and i didn't have to destroy my liver with lamacil to do it ! No, while I still will turn beat-red if out in the sun too long, I damn well have not truned grey even slightly. Small particle size ionic silver water passes 100% out of the body over a relatively short time period... Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz - Original Message - From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: CSMaintenance Dose Just curious, what is everyone's daily maintenance dose, for those who use it preventatively, and what ppm? Thanks, Garnet On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 09:44, Richard Harris wrote: I agree with Marshalee, I feel it a wonderful idea to take CS Continually (meaning every day). In these Stressful times, Most of us put anything that's doesn't DEMAND our attention to the side and forget it until we need it. Until someone really impresses me with an argument that taking CS daily, I shall continue urging my loved ones and others who will HEAR to keep their guard up and put the CS on the table so we won't forget it. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: silversurfer1952 . [mailto:silversurfer1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS and the Immune System Hi, At the risk of raising some people's ire, isn't it a good idea to let our bodies get the occasional cold? Doesn't that help strenghthen the immune system? Are we trying to *replace* the immune system by taking CS all the time, or what? I'm not attacking anyone or any point of view. I'm just questioning. If, for example, Marshalee got a cold shortly after stopping her CS, that tells me that CS doesn't boost the immune system, but rather works very much like an anti-biotic/anti-viral. Not that that's a bad thing, I don't know. It just seems to me that unless there are very clear reasons for taking CS all the time, are we not doing our immune systems a disservice by not challenging it with the odd cold or flu? thanks for any thoughts on the topic. Elle From: mamapug mama...@netzero.net You know, if you take one swallow of CS a day as a preventive, you won`t have to fight off a cold or infection!! It is much easier to prevent them than to fight them off, as I`m attesting to right now. Got lazy, didn`t take my CS, and had a nasty cold last week, along with torn chest muscles from all the coughing! Doh! Marshalee _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin .msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSProstate Infections ?
Hi :) The biggest question on my mind here is, the person with the prostate trouble, still drinking tap water. Filters / spring water helps a little, but is a poor substitute for Distilled water used for all cooking and drinking . Chlorine and Fluoride are carcinogens poisons. While the A.D.A. says fluoride is somehow good for us, are they not the same group of assholes that have been allowing mercury to be an ingredient in our dental fillings... Fluoride has a notorious history in the U.S., and either banned, or being rapidly banned all over the rest of the world. By the way, it does not prevent cavities, it actually make the tooth enamel brittle, and your bones too... Refined sugar / the physiological formation (Amalgam occlusions) of your teeth are the real factors in preventing tooth decay , not fluoride. Why die from prostate cancer just to help make the U.S. Aluminum manufacturing industry rich, from selling their (E.P.A. Banned)chemical waste (fluoride) to our federal water treatment plants... Drink Distilled water, live to be 100. Don't die for their damnable agenda's... Also, to really treat the prostate with C.S., you need to consume @ 1 quart at 20p.p.m. per day minimum at least for 2 weeks after all infection / cancer is gone... If your smart, you will just keep on drinking it. Remember though, if you keep on drinking tap water rather than distilled water, then you will never get well. By drinking tap water you are actively poisoning yourself to death. Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:26 PM Subject: Re: CSProstate Jack Dayton wrote: Marshall Dudley 10/26/03 9:21 AM Wrote: What evidence do you have that CS made it into the prostrate, and especially in the open areas of the prostrate? Absolutely none. Are you suggesting that IF the silver HAD reached ...the open areas of the prostate I wouldn;t still be bothered with BPH? No, I am simply saying I don't see how you can reach that conclusion since you don't really know if any silver was there or not. BTW, I did my first overnight zapping. I used a home made unit built from Clark's schematic, and running on a 9V AC adapter instead of a battery. I used two pads from a muscle contractor toner machine I had laying around, and put them on the inside of the top of my leg with the elastic bands that came with the exerciser. It does appear that I am having less trouble now, but should know for sure in a few days. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBREAST CANCER
http://www.toolsforhealing.com/Health/Beck/Beck_Protocol.htm In addition to following this protocol, Intake of C.S. should be @ 1/2 gallon per day at a strength of at least 20-p.p.m., and ask here Dr. to prescribe here lots of medical oxigen. The C.S. should be home made. Not the crap you buy at the store. Leave nothing to chance, and you will be a happy camper at end of day. She should sit there breathing the oxigen while she uses the protocol... Buy a Juiceman Juicer and Juice up a big glass of: Carrot, Apple, Beet, Parsly, and Deep Blue/Red Grapes every single day ! Do not drink Tap water ever again, under any circumstances. Use only distilled-water from this point on. Drinking tap water, is probably why she developed it . Silver Gen makes a very good SG7 unit. The C.S. it makes is very small in size, and it make 5-gallons at a time, so she can focus on the protocol, insted of wasting time having to brew C.S. every 5-minutes ! Regards, Al - Original Message - From: rnhffm...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: Re: CSBREAST CANCER In a message dated 10/22/03 4:54:19 PM Central Daylight Time, mborg...@worldnet.att.net writes: MY FRIEND WAS DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER LEVEL 3 THEY WILL NOT OPERATE IF IT HAS SPREAD TO THE BLOOD. IN THAT CASE WHAT CAN SHE DO??? IS THERE A SITE SHE CAN LOOK UP? THANKS MARY healthnuts.net cs and dmos (lots) jackherer.com good luck, ron
Re: CS was: sick from cs/is: BAKING SODA in CS
Hi Nena :) How do those enzyms work, and can they work to adust the PH in the tummy either way ? Thanks for what sounds like a better solution than sodium bicarbonate for the C.S. ! Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: Re: CS was: sick from cs/is: BAKING SODA in CS - Original Message - From: colloidal.sil...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: colloidal.sil...@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: Re: CS was: sick from cs/is: BAKING SODA in CS Hi Nena :) Hey There Doc ! Remember when I steared you to the site that showed the info about baking soda... We're talkin about adding a 1/2 teaspoon to a gallon of C.S., Mix it well, pour some in a beaker, and test with PH-paper... Should be around 7 / 8 p.h. at least... But hey, If you added so much you can taste it, then you must be using @ a teaspoon to a cupfull... Well, enjoy your antacid prepair for a mighty burp :) Regards, Al Hi Al. Actually, I followed the directions for the recipe. I think that amount is way too high. If I were to do it again (which I won't), I'd use about 1/8 of a teaspoon. After lots of inquiries, thanks to our resident pharmacist Richard's advice, I was finally able to order some food-grade (or better) Potassium Hydroxide. As soon as I get it, I'll begin with a brand new recipe and let you know how it turns out. By the way, I never drink bicarbonate of soda. Most people have too little hydrochloric acid in their stomach, rather than too much. A base or alkali burns as much as an acid does; so when they burp and have that acid taste, they erroneously think that their stomach is too acid. Then they take bicarb of soda as an antacid. But in doing so, they are actually diluting the precious little hydrochloric acid they need! Better to take digestive enzymes. Just thought you'd like to know ;) Nenah Nenah Sylver, Ph.D. Products, services, and information about health Author (under the name Nina Silver) of *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Order the book and read excerpts at http://www.nenahsylver.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment
Please list the one's for me that you understand first, and detail for me why it is that you understand each of them to be valid... Then We can proceed with the discussion, relative to your level of understanding JOH... That is..., JOH, Besides the fact that they have been conceived of, constructed, and are presently tangible repeatable proofs of theory. With Patience, Al - Original Message - From: ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 11:50 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment Hello A.F., Which of Bearden's experiments are you going to do? Thanks in advance, JOH -Original Message- From: colloidal.sil...@cox.net [mailto:colloidal.sil...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: carpae.d...@cox.net Subject: Re: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment Hi Mike :) Please go look up Dr. Thomas Bearden on the web. There may well be some factors your overlooking with classic entropy-based theory. In two days Iwill have duplicated this experiment pretty closely... I'll post the results. Regards, A.F. - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 31dtzj...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63365.html CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment From: Peter Rebaudo Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:59:26 Hi: Get a hold of this tale ! The positive silver electrode is introduced into a DW container, 300cc, the other is outside the glass container. DW measures 1.0 u Siemens Voltage= 34V Supply: Sota constant current set a 1mA. After 2 days, 2.4uS After 5 days, 14.0 uS and a heaviest, by far, Tyndall I have ever seen. The final product have zero taste. The electrodes have no darkening or coating what so ever. There was no sediments. The container was glass 2 in diameter by 7.5 high Electrodes 12 Ga, 5.5 summerged. The voltage stay constant at 34V, there was no measurable current. I am looking forward to comments. Regards Peter R Hi Peter, You have requested comments, but have not responded to any. You are technically literate. You have posted accurate data on led's. You have downloaded Mercury - you posted a link to Roger's web page where people could download Eureka, the predecessor of Mercury. Roger wrote both programs. http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61728.html A quick check in Mercury shows the current required to liberate 14 ppm of silver in 300 ml of dw in 5 days is 14.77 uA. Here's the data: days = 5 hrs = 24 * days ml = 300 ; volume of dw mnt = 0 ; minutes ppm = 14 Here's the result: Cou = 6.381685 I = 1.477241E-05 sec = 432000.0 gm = 0.004200 k = 0.000658 lt = 0.30 ml = 300. mg = 4.20 phr = 0.11 ppm = 14.0 hrs = 120. Most dvms can easily measure 14 uA. You state the current was zero, as expected. You know how to measure currents this low. So there was no electrolysis. Even leakage currents would not suffice to explain your data. Glass is a very good insulator, and would not support a current of 14 uA. You know the conductivity of air is zero for all practical purposes. You also know placing the cathode outside the glass means no current can flow, and there can be no electrolysis. With no electrolysis, there can be no liberation of silver at the anode. Silver is insoluble in water. If you doubt this, please see a paper on Frank's web site that discusses the solubility of silver in distilled water. The statement is the first sentence in the second paragraph: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/Solubility_Products.PDF Yet your measurement implies the equivalent of 4.2 milligrams of silver was released. This cannot be true. Silver is insoluble. If it were contamination, it would be released at the start of the experiment. The conductivity would increase rapidly, then remain constant. It would not show a steady increase over 5 days. So it's not contamination. You have not done a salt test to see if silver ions are present. You know it will prove there are none. So this is a hoax, right? Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS was: sick from cs/is: BAKING SODA in CS
Hi Nena :) Hey There Doc ! Remember when I steared you to the site that showed the info about baking soda... We're talkin about adding a 1/2 teaspoon to a gallon of C.S., Mix it well, pour some in a beaker, and test with PH-paper... Should be around 7 / 8 p.h. at least... But hey, If you added so much you can taste it, then you must be using @ a teaspoon to a cupfull... Well, enjoy your antacid prepair for a mighty burp :) Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:25 AM Subject: Re: CS was: sick from cs/is: BAKING SODA in CS - Original Message - From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:53 PM Subject: RE: CSRE: sick from cs Hi Nenah, The other 97% is purified water--the 3% is Stabilized Hydrogen peroxide. Unless you purchase the 35% food grade and dilute with distilled water, you are using regular medicinal H2O2 which is fine and much easier and safer. The food grade, 35%, is highly explosive; the cosmetic grade, 6%, is explosive as is the medicinal grade, 3%. Handle each carefully, without shaking and keep away from heat. I believe they store it in dark plastic bottles, since flying glass bottles in explosion is so dangerous. Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Phamacist Thanks Richard. I didn't ask the original question (what's the other 97% of the 3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution), but it's still good to get the details. I use only food grade and love it. As long as we're on the topic, I have a question for you or anyone else about the effects of baking soda in my distilled water when I make CS. I just made my first batch of CS using baking soda, and I'm not totally comfortable with the results. I don't have a meter so I'm not able to read particle size or concentration -- OR see what else is in the water -- but from the taste, it's clear that the baking soda is prominent. My questions are: 1) Is the silver still effective? 2) Are there any dangerous compounds in the fluid (or compounds that might give one argyria)? I'd really appreciate knowing this, as I'd love to start using the CS again. Perhaps I used too much baking soda. Richard, Bob, Trem, Ode? Anyone? Thanks much. Nenah -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEbay ban of CS
Hi Frank :) Is Ebay willing to say which FDA Office, and specifically which Government Employee made the Ban-it Statement to ebay ??? I think, that the FDA is probably required by the F.O.I.A. to disclose fully : The Who, When, Where, and What on this issued statement to E-Bay... Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz, D.A.V. - Original Message - From: Frank Key fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: CSEbay ban of CS List members may be interested in the response from Ebay on why they ban sales of colloidal silver. Ebay considers colloidal silver to be a controlled substance the same as narcotics. frank key -- -- --- Hello Frank, Thank you for writing eBay. I am sorry for the confusion with this issue. However, colloidal silver is regulated by the FDA, and they have asked us not to allow the sales of this production on our site. Our policy regarding such items does not mention every item specifically, if this were the case then the page would be to large and most like crash most of the web browsers that try to view it. Our policy states that we do not allow Narcotics, steroids or other controlled substances. Until further notice, this product is considered a controlled substance and not permitted on our site. For more information on this policy, please view the following link: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-drug.html I wish you the best with your future transactions. Regards, Sabastian rswebh...@ebay.com eBay Community Watch __ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment
Can one draw the connection here that the negative electrod should be a large piece of silver sheet, lined against the inside of the glass... Thereby distributing the pull of the positive charge against a very large surface area, and making the particle size very much smaller ? Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Peter Rebaudo reba...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:57 AM Subject: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment Hi: Experiment #1, Posted before said: The positive silver electrode is introduced into a DW container, 300cc, the other is outside the glass container. DW measures 1.0 u Siemens Voltage = 34V supply: Sota constant current set a 1mA. After 2 days, 2.4uS After 5 days, 14.0 uS and a heaviest, by far, Tyndall I have ever seen. The final product have zero taste. The electrodes have no darkening or coating what so ever. There was no sediments. The container was glass 2 in diameter by 7.5 high Electrodes 12 Ga, 5.5 sum merged. The voltage stay constant at 34V, there was no measurable current. This experiment was performed on a glass container, with electrodes, that were previously used (4 times) to make CS. The enormous Tyndall was due , in - today's- my opinion to: The release of silver particles from the container walls. Since silver clusters seem to be formed from several silver molecules so arranged as to present a negative charge to the outside world, when a positive charged electrode is introduced in the water, the particles trapped in the wall get released. For the high conductivity exhibited in that experiment I have no guess at this time. Experiment #2 Electrode: 6 feet long coiled on a 4 inches tight coil, wiped with clean paper towel and rinsed twice with DW. Never used before. Container : Glass 4 diameter, 4 deep, never used before. PS: 58 V Wall wart. no second electrode anywhere. Staring conductivity = 1.0 uS 1 day = 1.7 uS 3 days = 2.4 5 days = 3.3 uS 7 days = 3.8 uS The meter was cleaned in DW before measurements. Very slight Tyndall in a dark room was noticed. There was no sediments, taste or change in the electrodes. This is not a very impressive show but the change in conductivity , still, must be explained without invoking Faraday or any electromagnetic phenomenon, since a microamp meter was connected from the electrode to the glass and no current was registered. This of course has no use as CS production goes, perhaps it can be used to clean container without solvents or touching them. Further investigations may help to answer some of the very perplexing questions found in the production of CS. Regards Peter R -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment
Hi Mike :) Please go look up Dr. Thomas Bearden on the web. There may well be some factors your overlooking with classic entropy-based theory. In two days Iwill have duplicated this experiment pretty closely... I'll post the results. Regards, A.F. - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 31dtzj...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63365.html CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment From: Peter Rebaudo Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:59:26 Hi: Get a hold of this tale ! The positive silver electrode is introduced into a DW container, 300cc, the other is outside the glass container. DW measures 1.0 u Siemens Voltage= 34V Supply: Sota constant current set a 1mA. After 2 days, 2.4uS After 5 days, 14.0 uS and a heaviest, by far, Tyndall I have ever seen. The final product have zero taste. The electrodes have no darkening or coating what so ever. There was no sediments. The container was glass 2 in diameter by 7.5 high Electrodes 12 Ga, 5.5 summerged. The voltage stay constant at 34V, there was no measurable current. I am looking forward to comments. Regards Peter R Hi Peter, You have requested comments, but have not responded to any. You are technically literate. You have posted accurate data on led's. You have downloaded Mercury - you posted a link to Roger's web page where people could download Eureka, the predecessor of Mercury. Roger wrote both programs. http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61728.html A quick check in Mercury shows the current required to liberate 14 ppm of silver in 300 ml of dw in 5 days is 14.77 uA. Here's the data: days = 5 hrs = 24 * days ml = 300 ; volume of dw mnt = 0 ; minutes ppm = 14 Here's the result: Cou = 6.381685 I = 1.477241E-05 sec = 432000.0 gm = 0.004200 k = 0.000658 lt = 0.30 ml = 300. mg = 4.20 phr = 0.11 ppm = 14.0 hrs = 120. Most dvms can easily measure 14 uA. You state the current was zero, as expected. You know how to measure currents this low. So there was no electrolysis. Even leakage currents would not suffice to explain your data. Glass is a very good insulator, and would not support a current of 14 uA. You know the conductivity of air is zero for all practical purposes. You also know placing the cathode outside the glass means no current can flow, and there can be no electrolysis. With no electrolysis, there can be no liberation of silver at the anode. Silver is insoluble in water. If you doubt this, please see a paper on Frank's web site that discusses the solubility of silver in distilled water. The statement is the first sentence in the second paragraph: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/Solubility_Products.PDF Yet your measurement implies the equivalent of 4.2 milligrams of silver was released. This cannot be true. Silver is insoluble. If it were contamination, it would be released at the start of the experiment. The conductivity would increase rapidly, then remain constant. It would not show a steady increase over 5 days. So it's not contamination. You have not done a salt test to see if silver ions are present. You know it will prove there are none. So this is a hoax, right? Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and DMSO; OT: need Scars/Adhesions help
If these adhesions are pure scar tissue? Then there are ways to disolve them... I'l try to look up the info I came accross :) Regards, Al - Original Message - From: silversurfer1952 . silversurfer1...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:51 PM Subject: CSCS and DMSO; OT: need Scars/Adhesions help Hi everyone, I'd like to get some DMSO but have no idea where to look for it. I'm a city slicker and don't know of any farm supply stores near where I live, which is in Montreal. Can anyone suggest where I might buy this stuff? OT: Also, hoping this isn't the wrong place to ask... I have extensive abdominal scarring, internal and external, from high dose radiation and from surgery. I have internal adhesions which has resulted in my not being able to eat a healthy diet anymore... long gone are the days that I can eat salads, lightly cooked veggies, whole grains, etc. Foods like these cause my small intestine to torque and block. It's an awful thing to go through. I had the radiation 20 years ago and the surgery 10 years ago, and it's ever since the surgery that I have trouble with diet and adhesions... even had two surgeries (one emergency) to remove the adhesions but that just creates more. Anyhow, I'm wondering if any of you might know of some alternative means of dealing with abdominal adhesions. It would be a god-send to be able to eat veggies again! Juicing alone just doesn't staisfy. best regards to all. This is an amazing list. Elle _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnecdote -- pink eye
I've experienced identical results to these, and to boot the friend had already used a whole bottle of antibiotics / @ $40.00 cost... I hand them a spray bottle of C.S., and it's gone in 8 hrs. Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: CSAnecdote -- pink eye List, A quick anecdote: last week my daughter woke up with a very swollen right eyelid, apparently a case of conjunctivitis.I gave her Silvergen-made CS in an eyecup -- she cleaned her eye with this twice -- and a bottle of CS spray to use every few hours. By the time she got home in the late afternoon, her eye was clear and the pain was gone. I was surprised at the speed of the effect. She was very pleased and surprised also. Pink eye often lingers for a quite a while. . . JBB On Friday, Oct 17, 2003, at 01:13 Asia/Tokyo, kittykat wrote: Having lurked on this list, I knew when I got a cold 2 1/2 weeks ago I needed to get something to get the CS down into my lungs to get rid of the cold before it turned into an asthma problem too as it often does. I bought a sunbeam ultrasonic humidifier and modified it to have a hose at the outlet of the mister so I didn't have to stick my face in the machine. I used that humidifer for over one week, and I got no relief. In fact I had coughing so bad, I couldn't breathe. So two days ago I went to my doctor who wrote a prescription for a nebulizer. It was delivered that night and I immediately put CS in it and got immediate relief. The coughing was greatly minimized and I was able to finally get some sleep and start healing. My question iswhy didn't my humidifier help me? It is ultrasonic, I breathed deep but got no relief. I wonder if the hose was too long? Could the CS have gotten caught in the hose and not delivered to my lungs? My hose is about 2 feet long. Thanks for your insight. Debbie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anybody heard of the FOODZAPPICATOR ?
Hello and yes that is correct... I would think that the central part of the field shoul be north/bio-north/eminating the blue light if you can see auras... but yes that same field redirects back, so as to form visually a torroidal donut. That outer part of the field which is far mor dispersed in terms of guass/sq.inch will be effectivly a south polar field relative to the target of healing effect. Ideally you should be (aiming and closely distancing) the inner north field that eminates from the center part of the magnet over the area that needs the healing, as when you get off target the healing effect is reduced by probably the square of the distance you are off target... Condensed version= position it close and aim carfully at the spot needing healing... Best Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: Peter Rebaudo reba...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 4:02 AM Subject: CSHas anybody heard of the FOODZAPPICATOR ? Hi: I have read about the Zapicator and built a couple of prototypes. Dr Clark makes a point in her last book, that the magnet pole facing the treatment area must be the north. Even when by the compass test, the magnet seems to indicate a north pole, the fact is that all speaker have both poles on the same side. All North speakers when measured by a accurate gaussmeter will indicate a large outside north polarity and a intense central south polarity. So, when treating a small area, like inside the mouth with a North speaker the area of concern will be under a an intense South pole. I will be very interested in hear your comments. Regards Peter Rebaudo PS: This message was send to www.drclark.net http://www.drclark.net but I never heard from them. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment
Hello Peter R. :) Well, I'm taking a guess here but it sounds like 100% pure ionic silver, with no non-ionic silver of ag4o4 silver-oxide, like is regularly seen with both wires in the h2o... Also of great interest is of coarse exactly where the out-of-container silver wire was positioned... I have a small c.s. production unit like yours, that is currect adjustable... I will try the same and report the results to you in 5 days... I will attach the outer electrode to the outer side of the jar with a gumband, this shoud provide maximum capacitive charge differential. I'm thinking that maybe a large piece of silver foil around the outsid of the jar would be an field-effect augumentor, and increase production rates Best Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:06 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: About a extraordinary experiment WOW! Ode At 07:06 PM 10/10/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hi: Get a hold of this tale ! The positive silver electrode is introduced into a DW container, 300cc, the other is outside the glass container. DW measures 1.0 u Siemens Voltage= 34V Supply: Sota constant current set a 1mA. After 2 days, 2.4uS After 5 days, 14.0 uS and a heaviest, by far, Tyndall I have ever seen. The final product have zero taste. The electrodes have no darkening or coating what so ever. There was no sediments. The container was glass 2 in diameter by 7.5 high Electrodes 12 Ga, 5.5 summerged. The voltage stay constant at 34V, there was no measurable current. I am looking forward to comments. Regards Peter R -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT Stones and parasites
Here is a different unit that dose H. Clark sysle zapping, Dr. Beck style blood pulsing, makes C.S. too... However the unit literature only explains the modes, it dose not explain either the Dr. Clark protocals, or the Dr. Beck protocols... You will need to go buy the books for that, which can be found at this sitE or numerous others... http://toolsforhealing.sureshopping.com/display.asp?sku=58rP=default,expand @Silver+Pulser%2FBlood+Electrifier... While I use this one personally, please take note that sota instruments, has a refurbished unit section... I highly reccomend this, because they are far less $$$'s, and just as good as new !!! Regards, Al - Original Message - From: Sharon tala...@teleport.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:02 PM Subject: RE: CSOT Stones and parasites Richard, I found a link to a Sota Zapper that was supposed to be a clark zapper http://www.sotainstruments.com/zapper/, are they one and the same? It was $110 too. I sent dh the schematic for the clark Zapper, figuring he can probably make one, but whether it will be cheaper, or just a PITA, I don't know. Check out the zapper museum, I thought the pet Zapper they show is pretty funny http://www.zappermuseum.com/ Sharon Hi Sharon, Sota makes a Bob Beck Zapper for parasites. They are very nice, helpful people and I recommend them highly. My wife I recently purchased one and alternate using the Zapper for 2 hrs almost every day. I'm sure it's helping, but want to use it for at least 90 days before really commenting. There are several adjustments and it operates on a 9 volt battery. I believe it was $110 + shipping--It's a brand new model and very well designed and attractive. They have a well-informed staff and are customer friendly--have an 800 # 1-800-224-0242. Check Sota Instruments on your internet and read about all their fine products. Tell them I referred you--when we can report our successes, I hope to sell some of their items here in FL. Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Sharon [mailto:tala...@teleport.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:20 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT Stones and parasites Jason, or anyone wanting to contribute- I was checking out the altcancer site on your silver medicine site, and wandered into the parasites section. I noticed that there was a lot of information suggesting the formation of stones in the liver and gallbladder may be due to parasites. Some have suggested that my dd's problems with uti's could be a result of kidney stones. Do you think there is any link between kindey stones and parasites? And does anyone have any formula for getting rid of the creatures ( since the altcancer stuff is not available any more. ) Thanks Sharon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp please with asthma
HellO :) With c.s., I spray my eyes, drink at least two large glasses per day, and if my lungs are fealing stuffy, I breath a c.s. mist from a nebulizer, while riding a staitionary excecise bike at a gentle pace. That works the c.s. well into my lungs, and gives a really good shot of it directly into the blood stream too... I am saving up for a oxigen breathing regulator, which will be used with welding oxigen... (((IT'S WAY CHEAPER THAN MEDICAL OXIGEN, AND EXACTLY THE SAME GAS))). I'll set it up so that the oxigen comes in right alongside the nebulized c.s. while on the exercycle. I'm betting that this is possibly a powerful way to quick kill the invasives that build up in the lungs, blood lyphatic system... Best Wishes, Alexander - Original Message - From: kittykat To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:42 AM Subject: Re: CSHelp please with asthma Yes I do take it orally, but don't know how much to take orally.I'm probably taking too little, about 2 oz a day. debbie - Original Message - From: sol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: Re: CSHelp please with asthma Try using CS as nose drops, filling your sinuses as much as you can and holding there as long as you can. Also spray your eyes with CS frequently, and your hands and face, to avoid continually re-infecting yourself. ARe you taking oral CS as well. I haven't caught a single cold, or flu since I started spraying my eyes daily several times. And I always spray them if I've been out in public...When I started doing the spraying, I must say, I didn't really believe it would help, but its amazing. paula
Re: CSHelp please with asthma
HellO :) With c.s., I spray my eyes, drink at least two large glasses per day, and if my lungs are fealing stuffy, I breath a c.s. mist from a nebulizer, while riding a staitionary excecise bike at a gentle pace. That works the c.s. well into my lungs, and gives a really good shot of it directly into the blood stream too... I am saving up for a oxigen breathing regulator, which will be used with welding oxigen... (((IT'S WAY CHEAPER THAN MEDICAL OXIGEN, AND EXACTLY THE SAME GAS))). I'll set it up so that the oxigen comes in right alongside the nebulized c.s. while on the exercycle. I'm betting that this is possibly a powerful way to quick kill the invasives that build up in the lungs, blood lyphatic system... Best Wishes, Alexander - Original Message - From: kittykat To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: CSHelp please with asthma If I could ask help from the list. I have asthma and started to have a cold a week ago Monday. I bought an ultrasonic humidifier and started breathing in the mist twice a day for about 20 minutes. Nevertheless, my cold advanced to a body wracking cough as it usually does and I usually have to have steroids to knock it out. I truely believe in CS and want to avoid steroids. I have modified my Sunbeam ultrasonic humidifier and have put a medical grade flexible hose on it, so I am getting all of the CS mist in my lungs by breathing through this hose. I do this a half a hour at a time twice a day. What else can I do to stop this horrible cough that keeps me up at night? Thank you all for your helpfulness. Debbie
Re: CSRe: silver-
Finally !! Some one else, that can see that Stalin Mao were fascists just like Hitler or worse... Yes the FDA's behavior, can truly be said, at this point, to be supportive of the formation of corporate fascist-dictatorships. Specifically we can observe this type of action in the FDA's attempts to ban C.S. in their hopes of supporting the Chemical-Pharmacutical Indistries attempts at controlling stopping the American citizen's constitutionally guaranteed right to access both C.S. and information about C.S., in a Stalinist / Hitleresq fashion... Bottom line: Fascism is Fascism is Fascism..., ..., ... As of yet, I have only seen true communism practiced within a few intentional communities in the U.S.A. It works very well for them too... Best Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: rnhffm...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:15 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: silver- In a message dated 10/5/03 1:32:11 AM Central Daylight Time, ch...@shaw.ca writes: The Grandfather Clause protects the silver from the communists at the FDA. Since the FDA protect Industry without much regard for the poisons they sell to the public, they do the best they can to prevent anything that is natural and cures many problems It is interesting that, in the pursuit of the truth and with more knowledged acquired in this pursuit, one can find the subtle flaws in each of our thoughts and translations of the truth. The point is, not to take this clarification of the truth as a personal slam on what you think is the truth, but to examine this clarification in order to gain clarity of past confusions. This is the only way to break through. What this confusion is; is the use of the word communism. The vision of communism is nothing more than what exactly millions of good hearted, anti-corrupt authority people have been and are still trying to accomplish. The correct historical definition of what this person is trying to explain is called marxism. It was not the non-truth-informed people who were the problem, it was and still is the very-informed, corrupt people who are the problem. And it is statements like the above, that have 90 percent truth and the rest confusion, whether conscious or not, that have to be clarified to the good hearted confused people, in order to achieve 100 percent clarity. From my experience, it is not easy, but it is possible and the result of this will make the effort very, very worth while. regards, ron
Re: CSHelp please with asthma
Hi Debbie :) Every day I drink (2) glasses full (thats at least a quart a day) I use a silvergen sg7 machine to produce this, and just have the generator out in the kitchen 24/7 for ease of access... The strength is set to full: (@20-p.p.m.)... I also ingest C.S. along with the organic milk I drink, as adding @ half a cup to a gallon of milk, litterally makes it spoilproof up to a month... But then I never actually saw any milk spoil with c.s. in it. My opinion of Dr.'s is in trouble these days, as I have directly observed a number of them being a little too eager to get paitents off oxigen therapy... I'm starting to supect that they are litteraly afraid of their patients getting better perminently from the oxigen alone, (((and figuring out that it cured them too))) ??? This method I'm trying can also be combined with Dr. Robert Beck's electro-medical blood treatment... http://www.toolsforhealing.com/Health/Beck/Beck_in_vivo.htm On the nebulizer I'm using a full face mask, so as to make it easy to sit there and peddle the exercycle... Eventually I'll set up my digital camera and take some pics of this all in action for U-all... Also I consume quite a bit of distilled water, and do not under any circumstances consume tap water / soda pop etc... I figure part of the (intentionally undisclosed) cause of asthma, is that the lymphatic system in our bodies, which has twice the fluid volume of our blood, gets backlogged with trying to flush dead pathogens ingested garbage out of the blood body, and this back log builds up into the lungs... So... if the lungs are getting clogged up why not give the body an effective alternate route to flush this material out... Enter stage right...((The Kidneys bladder!!!)) Best Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: kittykat To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: Re: CSHelp please with asthma Hi Alexander, that idea of nebulizing while exercising is an interesting one. Thanks for letting me know. Also, do you drink two large glasses everyday or just when you feel you are getting a cold? Thanks again! Debbie - Original Message - From: colloidal.sil...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: colloidal.sil...@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:00 PM Subject: Re: CSHelp please with asthma HellO :) With c.s., I spray my eyes, drink at least two large glasses per day, and if my lungs are fealing stuffy, I breath a c.s. mist from a nebulizer, while riding a staitionary excecise bike at a gentle pace. That works the c.s. well into my lungs, and gives a really good shot of it directly into the blood stream too... I am saving up for a oxigen breathing regulator, which will be used with welding oxigen... (((IT'S WAY CHEAPER THAN MEDICAL OXIGEN, AND EXACTLY THE SAME GAS))). I'll set it up so that the oxigen comes in right alongside the nebulized c.s. while on the exercycle. I'm betting that this is possibly a powerful way to quick kill the invasives that build up in the lungs, blood lyphatic system... Best Wishes, Alexander - Original Message - From: kittykat To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:42 AM Subject: Re: CSHelp please with asthma Yes I do take it orally, but don't know how much to take orally.I'm probably taking too little, about 2 oz a day. debbie - Original Message - From: sol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: Re: CSHelp please with asthma Try using CS as nose drops, filling your sinuses as much as you can and holding there as long as you can. Also spray your eyes with CS frequently, and your hands and face, to avoid continually re-infecting yourself. ARe you taking oral CS as well. I haven't caught a single cold, or flu since I started spraying my eyes daily several times. And I always spray them if I've been out in public...When I started doing the spraying, I must say, I didn't really believe it would help, but its amazing. paula
Re: CSFTC Trying to Shut Down Hulda Clark Website
Truely Said :) But... It takes only a handfull of misdirected nice-guys, who take no responsability for the results of their actions, to turn those keys, and push those little red buttons... And then your babies will turn to ashes in front of you denighing disbelieving eye's Would you have this happen with a terrorist sponsored bio-attack, because these nice reasonable men decide to remove your access to C.S. Snap out of that damn Nice Reasonable Self induced Alpha wave like state of mindlessness friend. Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:53 PM Subject: Re: CSFTC Trying to Shut Down Hulda Clark Website Evening Dan, Which fellow did you talk to? The one listed at the bottom of the original message He was very nice, polite and seemed telling me the real cause of the suit. I see no need to bug this guy with tons of phone calls. If you want to call him, you can do so. 1) Michael Milgrom: the FTC attorney that brought the case against us. direct phone number 1-216-263 3419 Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Injections
Hello :) I think you are talking about a form of silver oxide (ag4o4) http://www.tetrasil.com/science.html The Isrialies are stockpiling this in IV / Injectable form... Ironically you can buy the exact same compound ag4o4, in a inexpensive form called: Sildate. Sildate is a new generation of non-toxic swimming-pool care products... It's identical to what the nation of Israel is stockpiling against the advent of an all out bio-attack As far as I know both C.S. and ag4o4, can be used intravenously, but sterility and purity are critical... There must be almost no contaminents, just pure h2o, ag4o4 / (colloidal / ionic) silver... While the C.S. basically interferes with the invasive pathogens respiation process ???, the ag4o4 inparts a 1volt carge to the pathogen cells litterally exploding them... Hope This helps ??? Alexander - Original Message - From: Lisa MacDonald lisa_d_macdon...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 2:29 AM Subject: CSSilver Injections Could someone please explain to me about silver injections please: why does a different type of silver need to be used and what is it? How is it made (not to technical;) How is it given - only IV or can it be given IM? Is there an average dosage rule? Why is it supposed to be harmful to give CS as an injection? Sorry for so many questions, just very curious. Lisa Lisa D. MacDonald Veterinary Assistant C.E.F. certified Level 1 Western Coach Nova Scotia, Canada lisa_d_macdon...@hotmail.com www.geocities.com/lisa_d_macdonald _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVirus definition from the boss
The Only thing I will speak up about here, is that the modality of science used here, absuloutly and insistently (on penalty of herasy) envisions viruses as being 100% constructions of chemical / mechanistic medical science (The Alopathic System) Also,only entropic theory is allowed for these viruse's basis of existence... Bottom Line: They are using a literally decapitated version of what Real medical science could be... The motives for this behavior again all boil down to the GREED problem that is being imposed on ALL present U.S. citizens by the Chemical Pharmecutical Industry... Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: CSVirus definition from the boss The PhD says the virus is not alive. . . . agreeing with Paula's son . . . . http://www.virology.net/garryfavwebfaq.html#alive Good site . . . JBB On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 21:15 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: Actaully a virus is no more a crystal than one molecule of salt is. But both form crystals when they aggregate. Marshall Stuff wrote: A virus is a crystal which I suppose is why many think it is not alive. But maybe, just maybe, it's a crystalline based life form. If that be true, it's alive. Who knows? At 09:15 AM 9/17/2003 -0600, you wrote: OK, My son keeps reminding me viruses are NOT alive, so how can CS be said to *kill* them? Anybody know or have a guess at what the mechanism is of CS disabling viruses? I notice in the personal studies many references to CS *killing* viruses but my son insists you can't kill something that isn't alive, so what does happen? Is this just sloppy wording? TIA, paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
I'm confused about the statement, that the C.S. is going to kill off the friendly flora in the milk as well as the bad... Pasteurization initially kills them all... Correct ? Therefore, the natural mother cows antibodies friendly flora are long gone from the Mothers milk. Right ? If there is something I'm missing here, like for example, that the same good bacteria, that were all killed by the pasteurization, re-colonize the milk shortly after the pasteurization, and that the c.s. then kills them. Please let me know about this... Are you possibly talking about Acidophilus milk ? In that case, yes, it would be silly to add c.s. to either it or yogurt... Also, raw milk contains the natural mothers antibodies, so using c.s. with it is going to kill off the good and bad bacteria. I would think the idea would be to use c.s. with it so that you could get the benefits of the raw-milk enzymes amino acids etc... without worry of the deadly bacteria viruses that can crop up in Raw-Milk from time to time ! It's a good trade off... The loss of only the bacteria, but still having a living-food product, that has not been reduced to the typical dead-food-state, that most all of are foods are these days for the ever necessary gods of product shelf life extension I would never think of using the c.s. with the Acidophilus milk or yogurt. Rather, those I would consume only on a separate schedule in order to balance out my intestinal flora etc... Which I do by the way... :) Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal studies / try these
Hi Trem :) Alex here... This info below is so damn excellent ! Can you send me a sort of suede bibliography on all the ref. sources ! Best Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz - Original Message - From: Trem t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: CSPersonal studies / try these Hey Jack, That pretty much covered it.. Trem - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:05 PM Subject: Re: CSCSPersonal studies / try these Marv Hacker 9/14/03 5:28 PM Wrote: What software is required to open the *.sit attachments? * Sorry about that -- I had my brain on stand-by, it takes a Mac to open those. I don't like to use up so much room. - - - - - - - - - - - USES FOR SILVER: EARLY RESEARCH At the turn of the century, scientists had discovered that the body's most important fluids are colloidal in nature; suspended ultra-fine particles. Blood, for example, carries nutrition and oxygen to the body cells. This led to studies with Colloidal Silver. Prior to 1938, Colloidal Silver was used by physicians as a mainstream antibiotic treatment and was considered quite high-tech. Production methods, however were costly. The pharmaceutical industry moved in, causing colloidal research to be set aside in favor of fast working, more toxic and potentially dangerous drugs. The Food and Drug Administration today classifies Colloidal Silver as a pre 1938 drug. A letter from the FDA dated 9/13/91 states: These products may continue to be marketed...as long as they are advertised and labeled for the same use as in 1938 and as long as they are manufactured in the original manner. Some of the manufacturing methods used before 1938 are still used today. An electrocolloidal process, which is known to be the best method, is used. ___ CONTEMPORARY STUDIES Laboratory tests in 1988 by Larry C. Ford, M.D., UCLA School of Medicine, and other researchers showed that destructive bacteria, virus and fungus organisms are killed within minutes of contact with simple metallic silver. While studying regeneration of limbs, spinal cords and organs in the late 1970s, Robert O. Becker, M.D., author of The Body Electric, discovered that silver ions promote bone growth and kill surrounding bacteria he recognized a correlation between low silver levels and sickness. He said silver deficiency was responsible for the improper functioning of the immune system. Dr. Becker's experiments conclude that silver works on the full spectrum of pathogens without any side effects or damage to the body. He also states that silver does more than kill disease-causing organisms. It also causes major growth stimulation of injured tissues. Burn patients and even elderly patients notice more rapid healing. And he discovered that all cancer cells can change back to normal cells. All strains of pathogens resistant to other antibiotics are killed by silver. The March 1978 issue of Science Digest, in an article, Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, reported: Thanks to eye-opening research, silver is emerging as a wonder of modern medicine. An antibiotic kills perhaps a half-dozen different disease organisms, but silver kills some 650. Resistant strains fail to develop. Moreover, silver is virtually non-toxic. The article ended with a quote by Dr. Harry Margraf, a biochemist and pioneering silver researcher who worked with the late Carl Moyer, M.D., chairman of Washington University's Department of Surgery in the 1970s: Silver is the best all-around germ fighter we have. ___ HOW COLLOIDAL SILVER WORKS The presence of Colloidal Silver near a virus, fungus, bacterium or any other single celled pathogen disables its oxygen metabolism enzyme, its chemical lung, so to say. Within a few minutes, the pathogen suffocates and dies, and is cleared out of the body by the immune, lymphatic and elimination systems. Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotics which destroy beneficial enzymes, Colloidal Silver leaves these tissue-cell enzymes intact, as they are radically different from the enzymes of primative single-celled life. Thus Colloidal Silver is absolutely safe for humans, reptiles, plants and all multi-celled living matter. Colloidal Silver is theresult of an electro-magnetic process that pulls microscopic particles froma larger piece of silver into a liquid, such as water. These microscopic particles can more easily penetrate and travel throughout the body. Colloidal Silver works as a catalyst, disabling the enzyme that all one- celled bacteria, fungi and viruses use for their oxygen metabolism. In short, the bad guys
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
Hey folks, I agree 100 % here, but I been cheetin', as I was able to find a brand of 100% organic milk, that in addition, has no m.g.h., etc... what-so-ever ! Look around for the stuff before you give up on that there moo juice ! Hope this helps, Alexander - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Hello all, Yes, I agree with Bill about Notmilk.com. I do so much love chocolate malts. But I have not done one in a couple of years. Most of the unnaturally giant-titted adolescent girls that are cropping up are probably due to the fact that bovine hormones are similar (some structurally identical) to human. My dairy products consumption was cut by about 85% after perusing that site. JOH -Original Message- From: missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Check out NotMilk.com before you start consuming any milk products. - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net To: James Holmes ami...@starband.net; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... The milk from the grocery store is dead. Killed by pasteurization. No good bugs at all. The best treatise on this is The Milk Book can't remember the author...list; who knows who wrote it? - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and viruses,
Viruses are not arobic organisims, like us. Howevever, they do self organize energy into coherent systems that increase over time, and therefor they do have the over unity functions that the basic building block of life... You son is playing semantics with you... Viruses are a diferent type of life form than us...- Original Message - From: mamapug mama...@netzero.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Re: CSCS and viruses, Would the word destroy sit better?? Either way, silver works!! Marshalee OK, My son keeps reminding me viruses are NOT alive, so how can CS be said to *kill* them? Anybody know or have a guess at what the mechanism is of CS disabling viruses? I notice in the personal studies many references to CS *killing* viruses but my son insists you can't kill something that isn't alive, so what does happen? Is this just sloppy wording? TIA, paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and viruses,
Tell him to look up the work of Dr. Robert Beck, Ph.D. (Physics) Beck was a much more accomplished person than your son will ever become, unless he learns to swallow his unadulterated arrogance towards his mother who loves him very much :) College dos not teach wisdom... Often it only put out another flock of parrots each semester at best... Tell this kido to get his nose out of the clouds, and his feet on the ground... - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and viruses, Marshalee, That's what I told him, and to my mind this is a simple semantic issue, sloppy wording, but he being a know-it-all, and of a very scientific bent (degree in Physics from Cornell) is adamant that this wording casts all info on colloidal silver into the camp of hoaxes...sigh, No need for this to generate a whole off topic thread of relatives who will not even try CS, but I would like to get some hard facts on exactly what CS does to viruses... TIA, paula - Original Message - From: mamapug mama...@netzero.net Would the word destroy sit better?? Either way, silver works!! Marshalee OK, My son keeps reminding me viruses are NOT alive, so how can CS be said to *kill* them? Anybody know or have a guess at what the mechanism is of CS disabling viruses? I notice in the personal studies many references to CS *killing* viruses but my son insists you can't kill something that isn't alive, so what does happen? Is this just sloppy wording? TIA, paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and viruses,
Orpha, that was beautifully said - Original Message - From: Orpha Yoder oilth...@valink.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and viruses, Paula, Sometimes I get tired of trying to explain the scientific reasoning behind products like Colloidal Silver. Some people who want the hard facts are truly seeking information but then there are others who are just wanting a debate and will NOT in any way or form take the product. I try to discern the motive once the accusations get thick and heavy. For instance, someone approached me last week about a nutritional product he was selling. I thanked him and told him that I am very happy with the products I am using and am in good health. Then the man became upset and tried to prove to me that the products I am using are a hoax and will do me no good!!! Well, I let him rant and rave for a bit and then I told him that I understand if he does not care for the products, but, there are people who like this product because they have experienced miracles with it, and therefore it would be hard to convince them the product is no good! I also told him that if he wants to promote what he is selling, he will do better by just telling people why he likes it instead of putting down other companies and their products! The man then turned obnoxious and I had to turn away and leave him on the street. Makes you wonder why he is in business if he can't be respectable and tolerant of other companies! So this is what I do with Silver, when someone tells me that it is toxic, dangerous, or whatever and is on a mission to convince me to not take it, I usually let them talk and get it out of their system. But I will tell them that it is hard to convince someone to not take a product that has enhanced their health! : ) I will let the technical and scientific brains on this group get the info you want on the Silver, I could look it up but am pressed for time with preparing for a family reunion. I just wanted to encourage you to NOT let those people get you down who are concerned about hoaxes! Best wishes, Orpha www.v4l.com/ProsperandbeinHealth 3 John 2 www.k-link-usa.com/kino-intro.htm Especially for your feet - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and viruses, Marshalee, That's what I told him, and to my mind this is a simple semantic issue, sloppy wording, but he being a know-it-all, and of a very scientific bent (degree in Physics from Cornell) is adamant that this wording casts all info on colloidal silver into the camp of hoaxes...sigh, No need for this to generate a whole off topic thread of relatives who will not even try CS, but I would like to get some hard facts on exactly what CS does to viruses... TIA, paula - Original Message - From: mamapug mama...@netzero.net Would the word destroy sit better?? Either way, silver works!! Marshalee OK, My son keeps reminding me viruses are NOT alive, so how can CS be said to *kill* them? Anybody know or have a guess at what the mechanism is of CS disabling viruses? I notice in the personal studies many references to CS *killing* viruses but my son insists you can't kill something that isn't alive, so what does happen? Is this just sloppy wording? TIA, paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Hello All :) I am doing a simple test with the Half Half Creamer... Equipment: Using a Silvergen SG7 tuned at @ 25 PPM per 5 gal. batch... Half Half: Garlick Farms, Pasteurized, no additives, no preservatives brand, Dated use by August, 27, 2003... Common refrigerator at @ 36_f. 1. Produced the C.S. @ August,25,2003... 2. Purchased the Half Half on August, 24, 2003... 3. Added 1/2 cup of the C.S. to the full quart of half half on August, 26, 2003... Results so far: Creamer retains an absolutely fresh pleasant odor to present date ( Sept., 14, 2003 ). Taste remains absolutely fresh and pleasant to date. Absolutely no signs of spoilage / souring what so ever... Request to All... Will others please repeat this test up to point of spoilage at least... I'm getting suspicious that the C.S. will keep the half half spoilage free almost indefinitely ??? I will also begin test of Creamer with C.S. at room temperature... Regards to All, Alexander J. Federowicz Providence, Rhode Island
Re: CSRE: Are we Photonic Bandgap Crystalline Beings ?
Reg. the Below claims about R.J. ... I personally offered Rosemary Jacobs, free therapy under my Cousin down at Virginia Beach, who is a very highstanding MD at the local hospital there Her reaction to my every effort and offer were Don't you dare try to help me get rid of my precious argyria. So considder my testamony a 100% confirmation of the below claim about her intentions... But mind you... She has an acomplice... He's an M.D. ,Stephen Barrett, who no longer has a valid lisence to practice medicine, and runs a web site known as www.Quackwatch.com. Barret apears to be heavily invested in the chem-pharm industry, and makes amazing claims against any and all that would think of using anything else... Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz, E.E. Providence, Rhode Island - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: Are we Photonic Bandgap Crystalline Beings ? BioSil wrote: There is a solution at long last for Argyria caused presumably by taking high particulate colloid silver by taking edible Photonic Bandgap Polyner combinations. With reference to the above, perhaps we should send this information to Rosemary who was paraded on prime-time TV (Ripleys) here with her delightful argyria story! It would be a waste. She doesn't want to be cured, she bathes in fame her condition (and likely money) has brought her. Others have offered her help, but have been turned down. Marshall Does anyone have the truth behind the blurb - I did once read it but didn't keep it! Thanks! Yvonne :o) - Original Message - From: Lew FH le...@lycos.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: CSRE: Are we Photonic Bandgap Crystalline Beings ? Greetings What are photonic bandgap crystals? Microscopic structures known as photonic crystals, unlike pigments, which absorb or reflect certain frequencies of light as a result of their chemical composition, the way that photonic crystals reflect light is a function of their physical structure. That is, a material containing a periodic array of holes or bumps of a certain size may reflect blue light, for example, and absorb other colors even though the crystal material itself is entirely colorless. Because a crystal array looks slightly different from different angles (unlike pigments, which are the same from any angle), photonic crystals can lead to shifting shades of iridescent color Fink has even found some band-gap polymer combinations that are edible. My idea was to create colored food without using dyes, he says. You could have benign colorants - with very high control over color quality. Since he made this suggestion publicly, representatives from the Mars candy company have been in contact with MIT, although nobody will say precisely what the men from Mars have in mind. Maybe we'll see some photonic sweets sometime in the next year or so -Fink has even found some band-gap polymer combinations that are edible. My idea was to create colored food without using dyes, he says. You could have benign colorants - with very high control over color quality. Clothes are another possibility, says Fink. There is a solution at long last for Argyria caused presumably by taking high particulate colloid silver by taking edible Photonic Bandgap Polyner combinations. http://lewfh.tripod.com/coloursarecodedfrequenciesinphotonicbandgapcrystalst ructures/ With regards Lew Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal gold
Hi Trem :) Alex here... I'll take you up on the C.G. guinea pig offer... I know my leg joint and disc injuries may benefit from it... I will send you detailed reports of every change I notice... Also, I will schedule some liver tests at the V.A. clinic and submit the report info to you about any change in my liver... That's a very good way to track any toxic build ups... Regards... - Original Message - From: Trem t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:45 PM Subject: CSColloidal gold Hi TJ, I've been drinking it for several weeks. No twitches or anything out of the ordinary so far. I'm quite sure it's not harmful as long as it's not in a salt form. Gold salts are poisonous but that's a different story. I'm so healthy it's going to be difficult to see any benefits. Once I get the process working better I'll look for someone who needs help and offer it. Trem - Original Message - From: TJ Garland goldenok...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: Re: CSColloidal gold I live in Oak Ridge ,Tn the Secret City. In the 40's and 50's hundreds of millions of tons of flouride were used and dumped during the uranium enrichment process -making UHF (6). There is some discussion here about the only way to remove Flouride from the body is using gold. Is your CG fit for human consumption? Does anyone else have in ancedotal or studies of anything that will chelate Flourine from the body? BTW- $2B was just approved to continue operating this place. No one here will even discuss Flourine contamination. The stupid dentists still want to give everyone flouride treatments. Colgate puts stannus flouride in all their toothpastes- gives everyone dental flourisis(dicolored and mottled teeth) and then sells them a $50 tooth whitener system. What a racket!!! TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. From: Trem t...@silvergen.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSColloidal gold Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:25:20 -0700 Hi List, I've been recently making CG using HVAC underwater arcing. It sometimes comes out violet and sometimes more of a gray color but it's always crystal clear . It seems the arc spacing has a bearing on this. Does anyone else make it using HVAC and if so would you be interested in comparing notes? Off list will be fine unless others want to hear too. I'm not sure what the ionic/colloidal ratio is but the PWT reads between 8 and 10 usually. And it doesn't seem to be any different on the two colors. I've been drinking it but also want to compare notes with others about their responses to it. Trem t...@silvergen.com _ Help protect your PC: Get a free online virus scan at McAfee.com. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfw: Five Reasons to Avoid Genetically Modified Crops
'. And ActionAid calculates that those crops `stand only a one in 250 chance of making it into farmers' fields'. As the UN Development Programme points out, `technology is created in response to market pressures - not the needs of poor people, who have little purchasing power'. SUSTAINABLE ALTERNATIVES Sustainable agriculture projects have led to millet yields rising by up to 154 per cent in India, millet and sorghum yields rising by 275 per cent in Burkina Faso and maize yields increasing by 300 per cent in Honduras. Combined with reforms aimed at achieving more equitable land ownership, protection from subsidised food imports and the re-orientation of production away from export crops to staple foods for local consumption, sustainable farming could feed the world. In 1998 a delegation representing every African country except South Africa submitted a joint statement to a UN conference on genetic research. The delegates had been inspired by a Monsanto campaign that used images of starving African children to plug its technology. The statement read: `We strongly object that the image of the poor and hungry from our countries is being used by giant multinational corporations to push a technology that is neither safe, environmentally-friendly nor economically beneficial to us. We do not believe that such companies or gene technologies will help our farmers to produce the food that is needed in the 21st century. On the contrary, we think it will destroy the diversity, the local knowledge and the sustainable agricultural systems that our farmers have developed for millennia, and that it will undermine our capacity to feed ourselves.' Sources: Briefing papers by Genewatch, Friends of the Earth, the Soil Association, GM Free Wales, Farm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSafe Water
WARNING TO ALL C.S. MAKERS POLAND SPING JUST GOT BUSTED BY THE F.D.A. FOR SELLING TRASH WATER... STEAR CLEAR OF THEM FOR A BIT, TILL THEY GET THEIR DAMN GREEDY LITTLE HEADS SCREWED ON STRAIGHT... SEEMS THEY COULDN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SPRING A SEPTIC TANK ! :P - Original Message - From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: Re: CSSafe Water Hi Bob, I would suspect that the water department has increased the chlorine content to speed up the decontanination. The chlorine will precipate the silver ions into silver chloride, which is 1/10 as effective as the ions. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: New and Confused
If you look at old traditional neck ties they basically were scarves, but then poor folks started keeping silverware in them, and probably anything that could be pilfered too... So Personally it's my viewpoint that the hanging version of the necktie we see today got it's form from necessity... Now, of coarse your hard core separatist feminists with naturally call it a phallic symbol etc.. etc... But remember, back then a sore throat often meant fatal illness, so you needed to keep your neck and face warm etc... These poor folks did not have C.S. !!! Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: New and Confused Actually I have read it is a phallic symbol. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Is the neck-tie a symbol of a noose or a leash? Ode At 07:13 PM 7/31/2003 -0700, you wrote: Jack writes: ...Also I found that there are people and Doctors who reccomend REBOUNDING on a trampoline. Now I once had read that rebounding might help alleviate an astigmatism... Yes, I heard about the trampoline, too. Something about it forcess the lymph glands to do their job better. Also, there was a report on the news last night about the long-term negative effect of men wearing neck-ties on their vision, from circulatory problems. Old and still confused, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoes CS taken orally have a negative effect on benefical gut bacteria?
Hello :) I encourage you to fresh make your own yogurt @ .5 gallons a day should be the max you give the puppy a day of @ 20ppm C.S. Of course the puppy will never drink that much... But that's based on converting the ration for human max consumption / @ 66 gallons per day... However please not that the only danger here is possible development of argyria if you drink @ 60+ gallons a day of 20ppm C.S., no toxicity, just possible development of blue skin if you can somehow manage to drink 60+ gallons per day for a period of several months !!! The home brewed yogurt is very good at maintaining intestonal balance... Of worthy note, I think, is my personal observation, that C.S. apears to get the bacteria, that my intestins use to digest red-meat... If I eat red meat after / durring ingestion of C.S., I end up just passing the red meat right out of my bowels... Noew normally red meat sits around rotting in your intestins for days... However dogs really need this red meat, and please take note... they cannot digest the soy protein crap in the purina dry-type dog chow that the b.s. label on the bag says staight faced that they can... please take a look at this URL http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/barf.htm These folks use C.S. to treat their dogs too, so don't be shy about contacting them, and talking about puppies ! Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: Denise Every To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:55 PM Subject: CSDoes CS taken orally have a negative effect on benefical gut bacteria? I have a friend who just called, she has a puppy almost 3 weeks old, about 20 ozs, who was doing well and this morning for no apparent reason took a turn for the worse, temperature dropped crying out, so she gave it some drops of colloidal silver and a homeopathic remedy for fading puppies (don't know the name of it offhand), and in the past couple of hours the puppy seems to be showing some improvement. She is concerned, though, how much CS would be safe to give a puppy, she was told by another breeder that the CS will destroy the beneficial gut bacteria as well as harmful ones. She is giving a few drops every few hours, or planning to, as well as a bit of organic yogurt. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Denise Every
Re: CS H2O2, ag(+), NaCl
Hello Mike Monet... I think you are sincerely working to further C.S. knowledge... However, I have seen you repeatedly criticize very knowledgeable people on this list (out of context)... I suggest that you post your degree/degree's, the university / universities they came from , and any relevant experience in exact detail... Then allow us poor stupid idiots out here the chance to verify your claims to expertise... etc... Frank Key most certainly knows more about C.S. than you so dose Trem at Silvergen... It's time for the competitive and sales oriented verbal abuse to end... This is a democratic and egalitarian forum, not a character assignation training ground, for would be c.e.o.'s of advertising firms... Myself, I have 5 years cumulative of college , am a trained (10-yrs.)Telecommunication tech., (3yrs.)Quality control Tech., 6 years in the service as a microwave systems tech. etc... Am I a PHD. in physics like Dr. Robert Beck, who you acused of being a snake oil salesman on this forum...No... And I will never pretend to be... However, no background is certification for the crap you keep launching at people here, in such an obviously derogatory fashion... If you keep this up Mike I am going to put forth the request that you be perminently banned from this list for repeatedly using verbal abuse tactics. Learn Some manners, Alexander J. Federowicz Providence, Rhode Island - Original Message - From: Mike Monett mzmvdd...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:28 PM Subject: Re: CS H2O2, ag(+), NaCl url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60895.html Re: CS H2O2, ag(+), NaCl From: Frank Key Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:37:41 The electrons are supplied by current passing through the ionic solution which is electrically conductive. frank key I don't think so, Frank. The entire field of chemistry would collapse if this were true. You would not be able to start your car - the battery would not work. Your car would not have nice shiny chrome bumpers - electroplating would not work. The simple water electrolysis experiments shown in grade school would no longer produce oxygen at the anode and hydrogen at the cathode. It wouldn't matter much. You would not be around to see it - biological processes would cease to function. Also, silver carbonate is tan or brown. I sometimes saw this with high current density, but most often the residue was dark black. This is silver oxide. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDr. Beck's protocol, Dr Clark's Protocol C.S.
Dr. Beck's Protocol uses pulsed DC @ 20-30 volts and I think @ 5-10 milliamps of current. It Electrocutes any pathogen in the blood they have tested it on... Dr. Hudra Clark's method uses much weaker AC voltage, and current, it's effect is far less measurable, but also is said to affect organ body tissues in the area of treatment... Clark uses very proven and powerful herbs, to help kill off parasites in the body etc... As far as I can tell Dr. Clark has emulated some of Dr.Becks method, but my advice would be to treat with both methods simultaneously... Why ? because they are definitely complimentary, and because a number of device manufacturers produce a very good device that will do both forms of blood and tissue treatment, plus make acceptable colloidal silver to boot ! http://www.toolsforhealing.com/products/SR_Products/SR_RSG1.htm above is just such a example device... To boot you should definitely get a damn good chlorine fluoride filter for your shower head, and stick to steam distilled spring water too... Beyond this getting yourself a good juicer like this : http://vitalityplus1.com/juicers/greenpowerjuicer/?PHPSESSID=b4276fcf5255861a8e915f342d467080 stick juicing organic stuff only... Avoid those pesticides !!! If you really like red meat, then I suggest you learn to hunt, and keep a deep freezer stock with fresh dear, turkey, etc. that you have hunted yourself, and therefore damn well know isn't pumped full of genetic garbage, antibiotics, and mystery hormones etc... For fish...Stick to ocean fish that are not raised on farms... The farm fish is genetically engineered, and is capable of passing things on to you, that don't particularly like the way your DNA is coded :) Do all this, and all those greedy little M.D.'s out here will have a real tuff time killing you off in one of their so-called modern hospitals, while your under their so-called (((CARE))).. Learn to avoid becoming a planned statistical casualty of these federal policies, that are fast moving into a position for, what appears to me at least, to be the regulation of the population of the U.S. It seems pretty clear, that Cancer research and the almost inversely proportionate cure rate vs. research spending is already playing a big part in this possible plan... But then, what do I know ? After all I'm just a little old E.E., not an all knowing and wise career politician :) Regards to You All, Alexander J.F., D.A.V. Prov., RI - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: CSBeck's protocol... Sara wrote: Interesting. How does the Beck protocal relate to the Dr. Clark protocal? They sound familiar. I have used the Clark protocal for parasite cleansing and organ function, and magnetic pulsing is a big part of that, also ozonated water (or olive oil) plus CS are suggested. What is blood electrification thought? Sara Ummm, I thought Clark's protocol was Zapping, parasite cleanses using certain tinctures and herbs, plus liver and bladder cleanses. The Beck protocol uses 4 specific devices for blood electrification -- similar but significantly different from a Clark Zapper -- colloidal silver generation, magnetic pulsing, and ozonated water. Maybe that's what you used, and somebody confused it with Clark? Or are they using a scattergun approach and using all of it at the same time? I believe that Colloidal Silver was revived in modern times by Beck for this protocol. It's surely something we should know about. I've changed the subject on this message, in hopes we can get some input from people who've used Beck's full protocol, or seen it used. I see comments in some of the articles posted here and elsewhere about few people using it. I wonder if that's true? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBob Beck interview garlic toxicity...
I believe Dr. Beck was refering to the requirement the a flight surgeon was placing on test pilots at company that was testing high performance aircraft... Now many of us know that halon systems could be installed on all passenger aircraft, and that most passenger aircraft tragedies that have involved fire, could have been prevented by this simple effective safety measure... Dose any one see it happening Simple fact: If any one I know tries to pilot a plane after eating a big dose of garlic, they are not going to see that budgeon comming, but beleive me, I'll put their lights out first, and apologise later... I was a private pilot for a spell, and there is just no excuse for ignoring the cosequences of performance imparing substances... But... is garlic going to make you drop dead from brain failure ? I think not..., but any airline pilot who would consciensiously get behind the controls of a heavy, after learning the little known fact about garlics effect on reflex times, dose desearve to do just that ! Drop Dead from Brain Failure, and I wouldn't shed even one tear for them. Regards, A.J.F. - Original Message - From: Mike Monett 3hg0lm...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 11:24 AM Subject: RE: CSRe: Bob Beck interview url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60796.html RE: CSRe: Bob Beck interview From: James Holmes Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:08:32 I haven't had a chance to research the toxic garlic syndrome yet, but my sensors tell me it is probably being promoted by the same people who say vitamin C causes cancer. Some of the claims are easy to prove false. Pilots are not permitted to ingest garlic before their flights because it slows down their reaction times. I have been a pilot since 1959. All pilots operate under the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR's). There is no reference in any of the regulations to garlic. You can search the Federal Aviation website: http://www1.faa.gov/index.cfm/1029 The single reference to garlic is in a listing of aviation articles: http://www.aee.faa.gov/aee-200/osheccom/lob/9eWebs2.PDF There is an article on heat stress. The only reason it showed up in the search is the url has garlic as the domain name: http://www.garlic.com/~pburnett/heatdres.htm From the Bob Beck Interview: He is also the inventor of the strobe flash light Dr. Beck was born in 1925. He was six years old when Doc Edgerton invented the strobe flash in 1931: http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/mithistory/collections-mc/mc25/mc25-scope. html Prior to this, spark photography was used, but it was too dim: http://net.unl.edu/artsFeat/edgertontrans.html Dr. Edgerton's strobe flash was used for nightime arial reconnissance during World War II: http://www.theindependent.com/stories/060603/new_edgerton06.shtml His work on high-speed strobe photography allowed him to take pictures of atomic explosions with a 10 nanosecond aperture time: http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Bomb.html For reference, he donated his lab notes to the MTI Archives: http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/mithistory/collections-mc/mc25/ I knew him quite well. His lab was across the hall from mine at MIT. Every time he fired a gun to take a picture, the noise was deafening. If it is so easy to prove these claims are false, why should we believe any of the other Beck claims are true? I pay little attention to these posts. They sound like scams intended for those who will believe anything. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPancreatic cancer
Hello Nancy :) Just some cancer basics... 1. Install a very good quality anti fluoride chlorine filter in friends shower... 2. Have fried drink only a good quality steam distilled water... example poland springs distillled water... Drink lots ! 3. No antiperspirants=aluminum toxicity / cooking with Aluminum Cookware... 4. Have friend begin Juicing large amounts of fresh organic-only fruits and vegetables ! 5. Then Begin friend on C.S. @ 10-p.p.m. or more up to 20-p.p.m., have them drink several cups a day on an empty stomach, and have them also ingest live culture, plain white yogurt every evening... The yogurt balances the intestinal tract vs. the C. S. 6. Also have friend use this protocol... Dr. Robert Beck Protocol see: http://www.toolsforhealing.com/Health/Beck/Beck_Protocol.htm Sota Instuments worked closly and directly with Dr. Beck... See: http://www.sotainstruments.com/ Dr. Bob Beck developed a procedure for obtaining good health that involved four distinct treatments. These are widely referred to as the Beck Protocols. These are the four steps that he has put together that allow anyone to follow the path to a healthy life. Good health is possible and a great place to start is with these four protocols. There are other treatments, other devices, and other people with good ideas that have also proven to be effective. Use your own judgment as to what is beneficial for you. You have the right to choose your own medical treatment. Use that right to choose for yourself. 1. Blood Electrification/Purification: Electrical micro-currents are known to eliminate all viruses, parasites, fungi, bacteria and pathogens in blood. The concept has been revealed in many revolutionary patents and research papers over the past 100 years (going back to 1890), but these breakthroughs were typically lost, suppressed, ridiculed by mainstream medicine, etc. The method was rediscovered by Kaali (click here for info) at the Einstein College of Medicine as an AIDS cure in 1990, but, as usual, it was promptly buried and all but forgotten until Bob Beck read about it and decided to research it. Blood electrification takes 2 hours daily for about four weeks to get significant results. The Silver Pulser is our version of Beck's blood electrification unit. 2. Colloidal Sliver: Home-made, pennies-per-gallon colloidal silver acts as a second immune system according to Bob Beck. It has been shown in numerous studies to be the only substance known to eliminate hundreds of viruses, bacteria, fungus, etc., more than any modern antibiotic or miracle drug yet developed by the pharmaceutical companies. It greatly assists in eliminating pathogens and guards against opportunistic infections. It can be used anywhere in or on the body. You can buy just a colloidal silver maker, the Silver Maker, or get blood electrification and a colloidal silver maker in one unit with the Silver Pulser. 3. High-intensity Pulsed Magnetic Fields: Externally applied magnetic pulses to the lymphatic system, the spleen, kidney liver, help neutralize germinating, latent and incubating parasites of all types, helping to block re-infection. This speeds up the elimination of disease, restores the immune system, and supports detoxification. Permanent magnets, no matter how strong they are, will not produce the same results as the pulsed fields of Bob Beck's device, which produces induced back-emf currents. You must have a high-intensity, time-varying, magnetic impulse, not just a magnetic field. Magnets have their uses, but they work in different ways with different results. Our Magnetic Pulse Generator produces the correct high-intensity field as specified by Dr. Beck. 4. Ozonated Water: Water that has been properly ozonated offers rapid, safe, and totally natural cell oxygenation without free radical damage. Universal detoxification is accomplished by oxidation of dead and neutralized pathogens, without the need for colonics, heat, hot tubs, exercise, liver and kidney flushing, herbs or other modalities. While these treatments have their uses, Bob Beck feels they are not necessary if ozonated water is used daily with the other three protocols he recommends. Our Water Ozonator is a high quality unit that can fully ozonate an 8 ounce (250ml) glass of water in just a few minutes. I've personally watched cancer melt away under this combination of clean eating + hygene augumentation of imunological system... Regards, Alexander J. Federowicz, E.E. Providence, RI - Original Message - From: nancymike To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: CSPancreatic cancer Hi, I've had such great results with CS IV's for my MS. I'm wondering if there is any thought of what it might do
Re: CSRe: [sillver_list] Re: CSRe: Nebulizing CS for SARS Redux
out there are about 1.41252 X 10+18 atoms in one teaspoon of CS made to 20+ PPM. I would think it wouldn't take too much in an intravenous solution to see some dramatic results. And let's remember, an IV of distilled water isn't going to do any damage so why wouldn't someone try this just to see if it works? Or as I said earlier, is there something I missed. Best regards, Trem I became involved with this group and actually had the opportunity to present CS to them during a conference call. At that time, my thoughts were running along the lines of nebulizing. Since then, they've considered oral (very difficult because most patients are too ill to drink) and IV. They are really skeptical about the latter because I can't produce enough material that speaks of efficacy with this. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSYour life is being monitored by wal*mart!
ay cphel thuh caim whey, dowen't yah noe... - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:18 AM Subject: Re: CSYour life is being monitored by wal*mart! On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:03:11 -0500, Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net wrote: Ole Bob Electircal Engineer WOT's a Electircal Engineer??? Chuck Capt'n! The spellchecker kinna take this abuse! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
