CS and treatment of a dog's ear infection
Hello, My dog has an ear infection. Any suggestions for how to treat it? Thanks, Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: Re: CS>Re: DMSO-------IVERMECTIN
Is it safe for humans and what is your suggested dosage? Related question - how does one determine whether one HAS any parasites in one's body? Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Re: DMSO---IVERMECTIN > ** Original Sender: michael murray > ** Original Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:01:38 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Ivermectin is the 100% death of parasites and YOU can buy it at feed > stores. > > > --- annho...@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I would not advise that. Poison ivy is caused by an oil from the > > plant that > > > ends up on the skin. DMSO will take it directly into the inside of > > the body > > > with possibly severe results.>> > > > > Years ago, I received a kitten that had ringworm. I didn't even know > > what RW > > was and the vet advised me about keeping him apart, hand washing, > > etc. Well.. > > the RW spread to a litter of 6 wk kittens I had at the time. They > > only had a > > few spots each.. not too bad. Someone suggested I try DMSO on the RW > > spots. > > I was already familiar with DMSO as we used it on the horses. I > > swabbed the > > RW on and by the next day these little kittens were covered with RW. > > I was > > shocked... I will assume the DMSO took the RW in and spread it > > systemically. > > Not sure if adding CS would have helped or not. Theres just some > > skin > > conditions you don't want to use DMSO... at least by itself. > > Terri L. > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>The Medusa Topic(tm)
Well written message. I enjoyed reading it, despite its length. Good job, Steve > ** Original Subject: CS>The Medusa Topic(tm) > ** Original Sender: "M. G. Devour" > ** Original Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:05:34 + > ** Original Message follows... > > The listowner sez... > > Forgive me as I referee for a bit! > > The "Where to find 50 ppm.." thread started out discussing a CS > from a company called Innovative Natural Products. The claims on its > web site were justly criticized for being contradictory and unclear. It > was noted that it's claimed high concentration makes it suspect based > on our past experience with such products. > > Stephen Quinto offered some analysis he had done on this product > already, including TEM. Frank Key also offered to do a suite of tests > on it and publish the results if someone would send him a bottle. > > Then, somehow, someone happened to mention the idea of adding hydrogen > peroxide (H2O2) to CS to create a totally ionic prep. This raised > the... > > (dum dum dum) Medusa Topic(tm) > > of ionic vs. particle "CS", which has been debated to death before > on the list, complete with barely restrained personal acrimony. > > Waving a red cape at the partisans of ionic preparations, Marshall > wrote: > > I think most of us have reached the conclusion that colloidal silver > > is more effective than ionic silver for killing pathogens. But I > > wonder about topical application. CS would I believe deposit on the > > skin without any penetration. But silver ions should be able to > > migrate into the tissues. ... Have you [Frank] done any experiments > > to address this at all? > > prompting Ivan to reply: > > I think not Marshall. Surely most think that ionic silver is more > > effective in killing pathogens, or at least don't know which is more > > effective. > > Further discussing such possible experiments, Marshall wrote... > > If someone is capable of getting me samples of CS that have > > different sized particles, which fall in a fairly narrow range, I can > > make complete spectrographs from infrared to uv of the absorption. I > > only need a few ml of each to make the tests. > > Frank offered, in response: > > You have a sample of fairly consistent particles of about 1.4 nm in > > the Mesosilver (as shown in the size distribution plot that is > > posted for Mesosilver under the Commercial Product Reports on the > > silver-colloids web site). > > At this point, the topical die was well and fully cast, and we were > destined to descend again into the maelstrom of the... > > (dum dum dum) Medusa Topic(tm)! > > Stephen Quinto, rising to the challenge, replied: > > Your post ... is somewhat disingenuous, since this Mesosilver is now > > a commercial product made by you. What's more I quote ... "The lab > > is equipped to perform measurements of all the physical properties > > of metal colloidal solutions that pertain to the quality and > > effectiveness of the product." Perhaps you can tell this forum how > > you test for "effectiveness"? > > Which Frank answered thusly (condensed from two messages): > > That is described on the web site also. ... From the standpoint of > > the physical properties ... effectiveness of a colloid is directly > > proportional to the particle surface area per unit volume of > > colloidal solution. ... A calculated particle surface area is now > > presented in the Commercial Product Reports for use as a metric in > > comparing colloids. > > arousing Ivan to inquire: > > You sell a health product, do you test for its effectiveness as a > > health product, as you imply in the quoted passage: "The lab is > > equipped to perform measurements of all the physical properties of > > metal colloidal solutions that pertain to the quality and > > effectiveness of the product..."? ... Do you think this CS to be > > more effective health-wise than a CS with high ionic content? Why? > > I am actually interested! > > So, we've watched in amazement as Frank's demonstrated propensity to > state his opinions as FACT has predictably raised the ire of Stephen, > and evoked a tactful challenge from Ivan. We've also quaked in terror, > as Frank's unseemly (*and* openly displayed) link to a > commercial product was laid bare! > > Ohhh, the Horror, the Suspense!!! > > The (dum dum dum) Medusa Topic(tm) strikes again! > > Ahem... > > At this point, let me explain to the gathered multitudes that you all > don't have to worry about the outcome of this particular discussion! If > you're just wondering if CS works and want to learn a bit about how to > make and use it, you can safely ignore the questions being bandied > about by the several participants in this thread... > > The question is whether it is the particulate or ionic (or some other) > component of what we generically refer to as "Colloidal Silver" that > does the job. Ultimately, the answer is of little pra
CS>Lynda DMSO
At a local feed store. It is used for treating the aches and pains of horses and cattle. Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>ionic silver > ** Original Sender: "Lynda Khula" > ** Original Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:15:01 + > ** Original Message follows... > > where does one get the DMSO husband has poison ivy real bad and the cs is > not stopping new outbreaks of it would like to try that. Lynda > > > > riginal Message -From: "Robert L. Berger" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:50 PM > Subject: Re: CS>ionic silver > > > > Hi Ya'all; > > > > I have found that Brook's method of 20% DMSO and 80% ionic silver does a > great > > job of penetrating both layers of the skin. > > That puts the CS where you want it, ina both layers and inside. > > > > My dog, a Great Pyrenees, had some red spots on her stomach about a 1/2" > dia. I > > sprayed it with straight CS three times a day for several days and they > went > > away. When I stopped spraying they came back. So I made the 20% DMSO > solution > > and sprayed it abut three times and they are gone for good. > > > > So for me all surface applications will be with the DSMO mixture. > > > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm......
Hello Frank, How much H2O2 per quart do you suggest? Thanks, Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm.. > ** Original Sender: Frank Key > ** Original Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:36:32 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Someone wrote: > > > >"The color of the sol has to do with the particle size, not the > > concentration. > > This is NOT true. Color is determined by particle size, concentration and > dispersion. > > > But, as the >concentration increases, generally so does the particle size, > > hue and depth of color."' > > The particle size does NOT increase with concentration for ALL processes used > to produce colloids. It generally does with the electrochemical processes > commonly used by hobbiests. > > > However, I don't understand where H2O2 fits into all this. Does it dissolve > > the ionic silver? And what's the chemical reaction in the dissolving > > process? > > Ionic silver is already dissolved silver. H2O2 does ionized silver particles > and thus convert them into ionic (dissolved) silver. > > frank key > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>Is DE safe for human and animan ingestion?
Hello Heather and other list members, After some searching on the web, I have learned that using DE for killing fleas and other bugs is apparently safe if you don't breathe in the dust cloud that can be formed as you sprinkle it. Therefore, using a dust mask should make it safe when applying. If using food grade DE (which is recommended anyway), a pet licking it off after walking on it is also safe from damage. Still have not found where to find DE in capsule form on the web. Anyone have any actual experience taking DE or giving it to a cat or dog? Steve > ** Original Subject: RE: CS>NATURAL FLEA KILLER IS SAFE! > ** Original Sender: "Heather King (LCA)" > ** Original Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:33:24 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Any decent garden store should have it in the potting soil area. > > Heather King > > -Original Message-From: svr9...@att.net [mailto:svr9...@att.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:40 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>NATURAL FLEA KILLER IS SAFE! > > Ok Flea experts, lets hear some more from people with experience in > using > Diatomaceous Earth. Sounds good, but when the are diametrically opposed > > views from people who seem to have personal knowledge of the subject, > it creates confusion in the ranks of the dummies, of which I am a > leader. > > So, if it is decided by a majority of experienced propel on the subject, > > WHERE may I purchase it? > > Steve > > > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Off Topic - Fleas > > ** Original Sender: dtmil...@midiowa.net (Dean T. Miller) > > ** Original Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 04:08:52 + > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > Hi Gladys, > > > > Whoa!! > > > > Diatomaceous Earth is NOT dangerous. You can drink it. You can bathe > > in it. You *can* dust your underarms with it (if you're so inclined). > > Just don't breath heavy concentrations of it (the same goes of almost > > any chemical, including alcohol or vinegar). > > > > You can make it into a paste (it doesn't become "inactivated" in > > water, which contradicts another message in this thread). > > > > DE can be dusted on house plants -- or garden plants -- to keep most > > insects away. It can be rubbed into the coats of cats and dogs, and > > the animals won't get hurt by DE when they lick their coats (it > > probably will help them). It can be dusted onto pets' bedding, and > > into rugs. It will drastically reduce the population of carpet mites > > (a major cause of household allergies). > > > > Like colloidal silver, diatomaceous earth is one of the great, > > all-around preventatives produced by nature. > > > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:49:06 -0400, Gladys Williams > > wrote: > > > > >Once again thanks to all--you guys are great. But this stuff sounds > way > > >to dangerous > > >for me. I was looking for something really good for internal human > > >parasites not fleas. > > >You know like very strong WWF death squad HERBS that would go in > there > > >and > > >kill those little suckers. > > > > > >The D.E. sounds fine for normal folks, but I am way to clumsy and > > >forgetful to > > >deal with something dangerous. In a week I would forget what it was > for > > >and > > >start dusting my underarms or something. Thanks anyway,.Gladys > > > > -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>Off Topic - Fleas
Hello Edith, Where do you buy the DE - health food store? What is the product name? Thanks, Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Off Topic - Fleas > ** Original Sender: ejohns9...@aol.com > ** Original Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:20:42 + > ** Original Message follows... > > In a message dated 07/25/2001 8:35:54 AM Central Daylight Time, > ni...@bestweb.net writes: > > > > Even food grade diatomaceous earth can irritate. Some people absolutely > > cannot be near it when it is dusted on carpets indoors or even spread > > outside. I personally would not use it due to its highly irritating quality > > to the lungs. I would take it in capsule form ONLY for parasites. Try > > breaking open a capsule of D.E. and eating it. You will feel the minute > > sharp shards in your throat -- not a pleasant feeling. > > > > Each person is individual. Some don't mind it, some do. > > > > Regards, > > Nina Silver, Ph.D. > > > > We have used food grade DE for yrs for fleas, ants etc. It is a great > alternative to poisonous chemicals. > > Edith >** - End Original Message --- ** > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>NATURAL FLEA KILLER IS SAFE!
Ok Flea experts, lets hear some more from people with experience in using Diatomaceous Earth. Sounds good, but when the are diametrically opposed views from people who seem to have personal knowledge of the subject, it creates confusion in the ranks of the dummies, of which I am a leader. So, if it is decided by a majority of experienced propel on the subject, WHERE may I purchase it? Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Off Topic - Fleas > ** Original Sender: dtmil...@midiowa.net (Dean T. Miller) > ** Original Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 04:08:52 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Hi Gladys, > > Whoa!! > > Diatomaceous Earth is NOT dangerous. You can drink it. You can bathe > in it. You *can* dust your underarms with it (if you're so inclined). > Just don't breath heavy concentrations of it (the same goes of almost > any chemical, including alcohol or vinegar). > > You can make it into a paste (it doesn't become "inactivated" in > water, which contradicts another message in this thread). > > DE can be dusted on house plants -- or garden plants -- to keep most > insects away. It can be rubbed into the coats of cats and dogs, and > the animals won't get hurt by DE when they lick their coats (it > probably will help them). It can be dusted onto pets' bedding, and > into rugs. It will drastically reduce the population of carpet mites > (a major cause of household allergies). > > Like colloidal silver, diatomaceous earth is one of the great, > all-around preventatives produced by nature. > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:49:06 -0400, Gladys Williams > wrote: > > >Once again thanks to all--you guys are great. But this stuff sounds way > >to dangerous > >for me. I was looking for something really good for internal human > >parasites not fleas. > >You know like very strong WWF death squad HERBS that would go in there > >and > >kill those little suckers. > > > >The D.E. sounds fine for normal folks, but I am way to clumsy and > >forgetful to > >deal with something dangerous. In a week I would forget what it was for > >and > >start dusting my underarms or something. Thanks anyway,.Gladys > > -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>DMSO
Go to a local feed store. DMSO is sold for the treatment of horse ailments. Steve > ** Original Subject: CS>DMSO > ** Original Sender: barnb...@aol.com > ** Original Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 02:15:22 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Could anyone tell me where DMSO may be purchased? >** - End Original Message --- ** > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: Re: CS>Newbie: My Brief Intro
I just clicked on the link and had no problem. Possibly there is a problem within your computer. I sometimes have a similar problem, but it usually goes away after defragmenting my hard drive.Have you done that lately? Defragmentation should be done at frequent intervals, as the system will slow and various problems may occur as data gets scattered all over the hard drive and becomes difficult to access by the computer. BTY, anyone have an opinion of the CS generator recommended on the site vs Dr. Jon's recommended generator? I am presently using the latter. Also, could silver coins be used instead of the silver rods recommended on the site? Good luck, Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Newbie: My Brief Intro > ** Original Sender: Tony Moody > ** Original Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 20:33:42 + > ** Original Message follows... > > I just get garbage on the screen. Lots of overlaying pages.Pity. Some of > it seems very interesting. > > > Stephen Summers wrote: > Hello Anne > > Check out the following site for completely objective and v.g. info on > CS > > http://silverdata.20m.com > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>Fw: INTRODUCTION
Try a local feed store. It is sold there for horses, as is DMSO. > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Fw: INTRODUCTION > ** Original Sender: Tel Tofflemire > ** Original Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 19:45:22 + > ** Original Message follows... > > sandyal...@aol.com wrote: > > > How do you link up with Blue Mountain for the bulk MSM? > > Sandy > > Hey, > a friend of mine has great prices on bulk MSM by the one and two lb > containers. 99.9 % pure...Try apothec...@home.com I think you will > find he has Good products at lower prices than some others. > Tel Tofflemire > Phoenix, AZ > >** - End Original Message --- ** > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>PWT Meter to measure CS PPM
Hello list, A search for "PWT" Meter found the following site: http://www.wishgranted.com/ec_store/itm00012.htm It claims the Hanna PWT Meter is excellent for measuring the PPM of CS. At a price of $50, it seems a great alternative to the expensive instruments we've heard about and/or paying $25 - 35 for a lab test. Is it too good to be true? Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: Re: CS>Fish tank bubblier
Ken, When you refer to a PPM meter, do you mean a TDS meter? Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Fish tank bubblier > ** Original Sender: Ode Coyote > ** Original Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:25:57 + > ** Original Message follows... > > The current it draws will depend upon the conductivity of your water and > the whetted area of the electrodes. As you make CS, that conductivity will > rise and the current increase. > > many peoples CS made by LVDC is about 40% ionic. This is what a meter > reads, therefore, mutiplying a PPM meter reading by 1.5 will give a some > idea of actual silver content. The ionic content varies. It's only "some > idea". > Ken > > At 11:59 AM 7/12/01 -0400, you wrote: > >I'm reading the bottom of the transformer. > > It's just an ordinary "toy train" type, that I picked up at a yard > >sale. > > 30 v, 400ma > > I have other 12v, 300 ma from radio shack as well. > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: RE: CS>more help needed (toenail fungus)
Marshall, Would adding DMSO help? Steve > ** Original Subject: RE: CS>more help needed (toenail fungus) > ** Original Sender: "JudytheK" > ** Original Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:18:28 + > ** Original Message follows... > > A crazy thought on toenail fungus. > I would suspect that continued oral CS for a year might do it, because I > think it > takes a year for new toenail. But my top-of-the-head thought is this: How > about > soaking the toes in warm CS for 20 minutes, 2X per day -- warming it in a > non- > metal pan, of course, and covering ankles and pan with a towel to avoid > light dddurin > soaking, then pouring it back into storage between applications. The warm > water will tend to soften the toenails temporarily and perhaps get in where > it can do some good. > Can anyone comment on this method? > > -Original Message-From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:16 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>more help needed > > > CS would likely kill the fungus if you could get it to it, but > unfortunately, it is very difficult to get the CS to the source of the > fungus. > > Perhaps oral CS if taken in sufficient quantity would help. > > Marshall > > Lynda Khula wrote: > > > a neighbor has a fungus growing under his toe nail can anyone give me > > help on this, I remember reading somewhere that cs will help > > fungus. thanks in advance Lynda > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>more help needed
Two questions: 1. How did you achieve 3200 PPM of CS? 2. What did you use to measure the PPM? Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>more help needed > ** Original Sender: Bill Missett > ** Original Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:31:33 + > ** Original Message follows... > > CS kills toenail fungus. A friend of mine, who lost both her large toenails > 15 years ago to a fungus picked up in > Thailand experienced complete regrowth after six months of daily CS > application at 3200ppm. > - Original Message - > From: Lynda Khula > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:04 AM > Subject: CS>more help needed > > > a neighbor has a fungus growing under his toe nail can anyone give me help > on this, I remember reading somewhere that cs will help fungus. thanks in > advance Lynda >** - End Original Message --- ** > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Soak toe(s) in mix of CS & DMSO for Fungus?
Marshall, Think soaking the toe(s) in a 50-50 mix of CS and DMSO? Steve > CS would likely kill the fungus if you could get it to it, but > unfortunately, it is very difficult to get the CS to the source of the > fungus. > > Perhaps oral CS if taken in sufficient quantity would help. > > Marshall > > Lynda Khula wrote: > > > a neighbor has a fungus growing under his toe nail can anyone give me > > help on this, I remember reading somewhere that cs will help > > fungus. thanks in advance Lynda > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>Part # 2
I "got" Part 1 and 2 emails, but there was no content in either. BTY, Part 1 & 2 of what? > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Part # 2 > ** Original Sender: "Cheryl" > ** Original Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:57:07 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Hey - I didn't get part one of this. Did I miss it somehow? > > Thanks, > Cheryl > > - Original Message - From: "Roger Daymude" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:40 PM > Subject: CS>Part # 2 > > > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS and infants
Hello List, A friend has a one-year old child who is constantly coming down with infections. Anyone know of ANY reason for her to NOT give her daughter a daily dose of CS? If the answer is no, how much is suggested? Thanks, Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Measuring CS concentration
Hello List, I am using Dr. Jon's CS making equipment, i.e., 6V 300 Ma power source, a fish tank bubbler with a bubble stone and two . silver coins. I usually run a one-gallon batch for about five hours. The distilled water remains clear but one coin gets quite dirty. The water has no noticeable taste. Using my Hanna TDS -1 meter, the reading is usually 1 before starting the brew and 2-3 after the brewing. I have a laser pen. Is there any way to read the Tyndall effect (which is definitely present at the end of the brewing) to determine whether there is sufficient CS to do any good? Thanks, Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Strange Reaction
Roger, I wasn't the one who first wrote about the strange reaction, but my solution did experience about a 20% reduction in volume. Wonder where it went? Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>re: Re: CS>Strange Reaction > ** Original Sender: rogalt...@aol.com > ** Original Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:38:00 + > ** Original Message follows... > > In a message dated 7/10/01 10:33:06 PM EST, svr9...@att.net writes: > > << Subj: CS>re: Re: CS>Strange Reaction > Date: 7/10/01 10:33:06 PM EST > From: svr9...@att.net > Reply-to: svr9...@att.net (svr) > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > I just mixed a 50-50 solution of DMSO and CS, and got the same warming > effect. > My CS was clear and the resultant solution was clear. > > Steve >> > > Steve: Did you get that huge volume decrease after mixing that you reported > earlier? Roger > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>Strange Reaction
I just mixed a 50-50 solution of DMSO and CS, and got the same warming effect. My CS was clear and the resultant solution was clear. Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Strange Reaction > ** Original Sender: Daniel Hernandez > ** Original Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:40:50 + > ** Original Message follows... > > This is most bizzar, Try it again and see what happens. Let us know. > Daniel > > > > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:31:05 -0500 Wayne Fugitt > writes: > > > > Yesterday I made a 16 oz batch of CS using virtually the same > > methods I > > have used before. > > > > In the past, I have used the 27 volt LVDC generator, with 2 small > > 12 volt > > batteries connected in series. > > This would be 51 VDC, virtually the same as the telephone generator > > I am > > testing. > > > > I used no saline. Added about 1 oz CS from a previous batch. ( 16 > > oz batch ) > > > > The color is lemon, or pale yellow and tastes bitter. The time on > > this > > batch was about 3.5 hours. > > > > After determining that the batch was ok, ( or so I thought ) I used > > a four > > ounce bottle and mixed 50-50 with DMSO for a fungicide treatment to > > be used > > for toenail fungus. > > > > Even thru the brown bottle, I could see strange things happening. > > Plus a > > noticable warming effect was noticed. > > The bottle did not get hot, but it was more than slightly warm. > > Medium > > warm, but not hot. > > > > After a time, it cooled off. > > > > The bottle was a 4 ounce dropper bottle with the rubber bulb. No > > glass or > > plastic dropper tube was installed in the rubber bulb. The bottle > > was > > about 90% full. > > > > 12 hours later, the bottle was about 20 % full. The top was > > screwed on > > with a reasonable tension. > > > > Can anyone offer and facts as to what happened? > > > > I have 16 ounces of the CS and more of the DMSO. Should I see if > > this will > > happen again? > > > > Wayne > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > > silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > > to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>OT>>GENERIC CO-OP
I was an early signup and never received mine. Steve Radcliff > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>OT>>GENERIC CO-OP > ** Original Sender: "G. T." > ** Original Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 05:04:10 + > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > > > > question: I signed up for the co-op beta-test and never > received my "test kit". Neiher did the 3 people I got to sign up > for it. The co-op sent a newsletter stating that some > people would inevitably fall between the cracks and not get theirs. Did > anyone on this list sign up for the beta-test and receive their order? > Just wondering. GT > > Dear List > > l checked three of the products [apple for apple] price on > the CO-OP" > >against PURITAN'S PRIDE 3 for1 sale prices. The co-op prices > are good > >. but not that good. > > Examples. > > Coenzyme Q -10 ,[co-op 13.98,]...[.PP 14.98] > > Salmon oil , [co-op 1.96]... [PP 2.97] > > DHEA, [co-op 4.91 [PP 4.18] PP has a 3.00 S+H . co-op > 6.00 S+H > > Now far be it for me to say there is one hell of a marketing > plan going > >on with all the hype on the co-op which went from we trust you > to pay > >later, to PAYPAL [or one other on line bank] ONLY. > > I don't know about the co-op,but I get 5 bucks for everyone I > get to > >use PayPay,and they claim to have many thousand customers. > > Man I just love to see slick marketing... I have no problem > with making > >money. and it sure makes me wonder about such things as > Quality when > >you hear all the other goody,goody sales pitch crap. PP is one > of many > >labels used by the largest vit/etc mfgs ,don't remember there > name, in > >the US, and in 30+ years I'm yet to get sick from any of the > 20 or so > >products I use sold by them, plus they don't claim to be doing > me a > >favor with their retail sale prices. > > PS I have no financial interest in the Co.,but they are > listed on the > >exchange > > > > > > > >larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of > colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail > message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at href="http://explorer.msn.com";>http://explorer.msn.com >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>Re-post CSXO2 nebuliser (nebulizer)...complete
Hello Ivan, Congratulations on your early successes. Hope they continue. My wife, Anne, has advanced pulmonary Sarcoidosis and uses a Pulmomate nebulizer four times per day. She uses it to inhale 0.83% Albuterol. She also inhaled my homemade CS, with a some MSM in it, each day after inhaling the Albuterol. (Would it hurt to combine the CS and Albuterol to shorten the inhalation process?) She stopped it because it seemed, to her, that it was making her breathing more labored. She was also concerned the CS might be staying in her lungs and would further degrade her breathing. Being as stupid as I am about CS, I felt it best to not argue against stopping it. She continues to "swish" about four Tablespoons in her mouth each day. Anne's condition is such that she is on Oxygen 24/7, using the highest setting while she is not in bed. She is willing to try inhaling CS again (her own voluntary decision) it she can be assured that the CS, itself, won't cause her further harm. I have already told her that CS is supposed to self-flush in a week's time but she needs some more assurance. So, what is your opinion as to whether she should re-start the CS inhalation? Thanks, Steve > ** Original Subject: CS>Re-post CSXO2 nebuliser (nebulizer)...complete > ** Original Sender: "Ivan Anderson" > ** Original Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 09:10:22 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Folks, > I had occasion to refer someone to this protocol, but had trouble finding > the complete series, so I decided to consolidate them in one message for > easy reference (plus a few extras). Once again, thanks Brooks. > > Ivan. > > > ***The protocol: > > To all interested list members. > I would like to relate an experimental protocol recently developed > by one of our younger (and brighter) staff members. He originated the idea > and assembled all parts into a working model in less than two > days---after his original inspiration. The original problem manifested > as a result of our fruitless search for some effective procedure for > attacking the bi-lateral form of those bacterial pneumonias which have > proved non-responsive to all of the anti-biotic protocols. This challenge > has been especially dear to our hearts since one of our engineers lost his > 47 year old wife (a wonderful school teacher), at the age of 47nine > years ago. > We have used this system on 3 volunteersand this onlywithin > the past four weeks. However, we have been absolutely astounded by the > results. One 75 year old ashma sufferer, unable to gain more than > momentary relief during the past 8 years, was able to dispense with his very > labor-intensive (unbelieveably costly) hospice-assisted > protocols18 days after undertaking this protocol. We now > suspect that his ashma was the result of some form of secondary bacterial > pathogen..this because of the speed and degree of his recovery. > Another of our volunteers (71 years), afflicted with a sub-clinical > bronchial infection-non-responsive to any protocolincluding Rife > Beam Ray Therapy, has improved by at least 75% within the past 21 > days.and shows every indication of complete resolution within the > next week or so. This volunteer was in perfect health in every other > wayexcept for the bronchial disorder (complicated by a minor but > persistant post-nasal drainage) > The third volunteer was an 81 year old male, completely > non-responsive to all therapies for bi-lateral pneumonia of a bacterial > nature. This condition had persisted for 6 months and he was approaching a > moribund state, very rapidly. 24 hours after beginning this protocol, he > encountered a very serious crisis evolving from major Herxheimer's > Reaction. Pustule formation was so rapid and intense, 100% oxygen support > was requiredand the treatment protocol was suspended for two days, while > the volunteer's condition was stabilized. Two days after resumption of the > Oxygen-CS protocol, no supporting O2 therapy was required as the subject > was fully able to breathe adequately unassisted. The volume of sputum/pus > fluid was massive. Excepting very sore chest area (from prolonged coughing) > the volunteer was much improved. Within five days he became very alert and > began to overcome his narcoleptic tendencies. Within ten days he became > ambulatory again. Within 15 days his lungs were unobstructed enough he > could breathe fully, with no audio evidence of fluid presence in the > pulmonary tract. Yesterday (the 21st day) his lungs checked to be 90% > clear, with only one tiny spot in the lower left quadrant of the left lung. > His M.D. pulmonary specialist is in a state of "schock" over the > developments. His analysis is this is the most pronounced case of > "spontaneous remission" in his 30 years of practice. No one has informed > the M.D. of our experimental protocols, used on th
CS>re: Re: CS>colloidal Silver doubts
Hello ted, What is good bacteria (Yogurt or asodophalus?)and where does one get it? While I have a TDS1 meter, I have not heard of the SOTA meter. What does it do and where may one be found? Also, how is it utilized in conjunction with the TDS 1 meter? Thanks, Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>colloidal Silver doubts > ** Original Sender: Ted Windsor > ** Original Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:22:00 + > ** Original Message follows... > > I have been using CS for the past five years, I have consumed up to 8 oz a > day, > but most days I use 1 oz. I mix CS with juice, mist my face and body with > it, I > have yet to notice any harm full side effects. I have always used a Sota unit > and with Hanna unit it measures on an average of 5 PPM. I make 32 oz at a > time > it takes me 40 minutes. I usually make 2 gallons and never had a problem with > storage. I notice no mention of PPM in the following message. ( 3 to 5 PPM is > best, more then 20 PPM is a total waste) I firmly believe this has a lot to > due > with any problems using CS. I believe that people should take one bottle of > good bacteria once a year, use 6 caps per day till the bottle is gone. > Blessings > Ted > > Nick Grant wrote: > > > > RE the collodial silver - apparently repeated use of 12 mths or more can > > > cause problems as Frank had said. As the Dr was so concerned about it and > > > asked us to issue a warning we felt it was our responsibility to do so. I > > > do not fully understand the whole thing this is one area where Frank has a > > > better grip on it than me. > > Hi everyone > > > > Last week i posted a response from this person who had been giving her son > > CS. Her paediatrician has totally put her off, and put the wind up several > > people who use it. I got a response back from several people, including > > Ivan, whos answer seemed to suggest that CS can cause copper deficiency - > > hope I was reading it right Ivan, if taken with minerals at the same time as > > the CS. Has there been any studies done by anyone as to the possibility of > > it causing problems as outlined below? I would like to know as I give it to > > my kids every day, and my youngest has bleeding problems, so I don't want to > > be agreevating this long term. > > > > For those of you who take it every day, have you ever had your copper levels > > checked? I would be interested to see the results. I just want to know if > > their is any clear evidence that it does affect copper levels in the body. > > > > I have asked this "frank" person who is the one commenting on it all as > > well, for evidence to support his theory. > > > > I shall let you know if and when I hear from him. Just wanted to know a bit > > more about this from you all. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tracy > > > > > > > > At this stage it doesn't look like the collodial silver caused Brock's > > blood > > > platelet problem that is a separate issue to be sorted in due cause. > > > However its PROLONGED use has been contributed to platelet problems and > > > copper deficiency. I can asked Frank to investigate further for you. > > > > > > Dr Jim McGill is highly respected in Australia and worldwide - he has > > worked > > > very closely with Dr Moser and is well known by Dr Callum in NZ. He is > > seen > > > as the leading metabolic specialist in Australia and also consults to the > > > Australasain countries. For this reason given that he was so concerned > > > about the health of the kids on the list I felt an obligation to inform > > them > > > of Jim's opinion based on his experience. In no way was I trying to cause > > > any problems. At present I have had to take Brock off it particularly in > > > light of his blood platlet problem. I will reassess the situation when > > his > > > blood results are in. I found the stuff personally quite good at knocking > > > the onset of a cold off - but as you can understand with such a strong > > > warning I have had to take heed in Brock's case and share the information. > > > Hope this hasn't caused any rifts. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > Ted > Helping Hand Consulting > http://www.helpinghandconsulting.com > >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>NCH Tone Generator
Dr. Jon's Alternative Health site (http://cat007.com/rlist.htm) also has a generator and a frequency chart. Anyone know of a list or forum where people can get help understanding what the tones do, how long and how often to use the tones, the effect(s) should a person expect after using the tone. Also, both frequency charts give SEVERAL frequencies for MANY of the conditions. Who can tell us which frequency is most effective for a particular problem or, if all are equally effective, how long and how often should each be used? For instance, I have a friend who has advanced Parkinson's Disease. One recommended frequency on both charts is 813. If that is used for her, how long should each "treatment" be used and how many times per day? What should she expect to happen as a result of the treatments, and how soon after their start should there be something to feel, see or even just sense to show the treatments are working? Steve > ** Original Subject: CS>NCH Tone Generator > ** Original Sender: Ed Kasper > ** Original Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:14:15 + > ** Original Message follows... > > I just downloaded a NCH Tone Generator from www.nch.com.au > and the freq charts from www.Educate-Yourself.org -Frequency Charts > has anyone used these. hey seem well set up. > > Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist & Medicinal Herbalist > Santa Cruz, California & www.happyherbalist.com > e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>Mold in walls and carpet - How to get rid of
Thanks. The site looks good. Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Mold in walls and carpet - How to get rid of > ** Original Sender: we...@yahoo.com > ** Original Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:08:51 + > ** Original Message follows... > > checkout: > http://www.environmentsensitive.com/air.html > > On 29 Jun 2001, at 10:12, svr9...@att.net wrote: > > Any ideas how to eliminate > > the mold? Even if the sheetrock and carpets were replaced, would the > > mold still likely be in the walls? Would a spray of CS work? Anyone > > know how to test for the presence of mold it it is not readily > > visible? > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>Mold in walls and carpet - How to get rid of
Hello list, My wife's sister's finished basement was flooded a few years back and was not used any more. She now wants to use it again but thinks the carpet and walls are infested with mold. Any ideas how to eliminate the mold? Even if the sheetrock and carpets were replaced, would the mold still likely be in the walls? Would a spray of CS work? Anyone know how to test for the presence of mold it it is not readily visible? Thanks for any help you might offer. Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: Re: CS>3 PPM goes to 14 PPM after filtering
OK Roger > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>3 PPM goes to 14 PPM after filtering > ** Original Sender: rogalt...@aol.com > ** Original Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 02:47:08 + > ** Original Message follows... > > In a message dated 6/23/01 3:28:47 PM EST, svr9...@att.net writes: > > << Subj: re: Re: CS>3 PPM goes to 14 PPM after filtering > Date: 6/23/01 3:28:47 PM EST > From: svr9...@att.net > Reply-to: svr9...@att.net (svr) > To:rogalt...@aol.com > > Hello Roger, > > It is, apparently repeatable as I have done it before. > > > Steve: Conductivity increased markedly due to additional CO2 dissolving in > > the water, and some oxidation of silver particulate to silver ion. Beats > me > > how THAT happened. Is this phenomenon repeatable? If so, play around with > > some variables that may influence the oxidation of colloidal silver > particles > > such as bubbling air/oxygen through your CS brew, measuring conductivity > vs > I am already using a bubbler. My wife is on oxygen, so I DO have access to > it. Is it better than air for the "playing around"? However, I don't feel I > could use oxygen for several hours as it is expensive. Please tell me what > to do and what I should look for. How do I measure conductivity? > > Steve: I would make up two identical samples of your brew. In one I would > bubble air or oxygen (I don't believe using a small oxygen bubbler for > several hours would be costly). then measure conductivity (which is possibly > reported as "PPM Silver" on your TDS-1) vs time for both samples. Compare the > results you observe. > > > possibility is the particle size is changing. Use a laser before and after > I have a laser. Am I looking to see if there are more. or less, larger > particles? > > Steve: Yes, first write down what you see "before and after" using a laser. > THEN give your interpretation with regard to particle size. Post it to the > list to see how your interpretation compares to that of others who may have > more experience making this type of interpretation. That way, we may all > learn something. Roger > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>3 PPM goes to 14 PPM after filtering
Hello List, Making my CS, I have noticed a curious phenomena. After brewing for several hours, the reading on my TDS-1 meter may read 3 PPM. However, after running it through s Brita Filter, to remove particles - if any, the reading may jump to 13 - 14 PPM. Any ideas why this happens? Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>How much CS in an 8 oz Glass of Gatorade?
How much CS do you recommend putting in an 8 oz Glass of Gatorade? Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold & Platinum
Hi Chip, What does CG do that isn't done by CS? Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold & Platinum > ** Original Sender: Chip Hoyle > ** Original Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:38:21 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Ian, > > I have just started making colloidal gold using the 15kv HVAC underwater > arc method. I will be glad to share what I have learned with you. Bill > Fernald, another member of this list, has a pretty extensive site > dedicated to colloidal gold. He has lots of info and sells cg on a > commercial basis. His website is www.colloidalgold.com. You can feel > free to contact me off-list if you would like. > > Chip Hoyle > > roesil...@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > Are there any lists out there or sites with information on Colloidal > > gold or > > colloidal platinum? > > > > Anyone here have experience with same? > > > > Ian >** - End Original Message --- ** > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: Re: CS/Gaterade Test Volunteers STILL Needed
Roger, Will you please check to see if I am on the list? Think I was one of the first, but want to be sure. Thanks, Steve Radcliff svr9...@att.net > ** Original Subject: Re: CS/Gaterade Test Volunteers STILL Needed > ** Original Sender: rogalt...@aol.com > ** Original Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:13:08 + > ** Original Message follows... > > In a message dated 6/20/01 9:57:32 AM EST, annho...@aol.com writes: > > << Subj: CS>re: volunteers > Date: 6/20/01 9:57:32 AM EST > From: annho...@aol.com > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > << We still need more volunteers. The > more we have, the more reliable our conclusions. Isn't it worth 15 bucks to > know which type of brew (ionic vs particulate) does the best job, and > whether > Gatorade really enhances CS effectiveness? Roger >> > > Ok Roger... count me in. I'd certainly like to find out which does the best > job. > Terri L. > >> > > Terri: Thanks Teri. I knew you wouldn't let me down. BTW, if there is anyone > out there who would like to participate, but is a little short of funds > please contact me directly. Likewise, if there is anyone out there who is in > a position to contribute financially to our test, but is unable to contribute > his/her body, or some friend's body (mother-in-law body contributions don't > count), please contact me as well. Perhaps we can match up these two groups > (assuming they actually exist). Roger > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>CHALKY URINE
Jon, A nurse I was on the phone with when I read your message said it likely indicated a urinary tract infection. She said you should take a sample to a lab. She also said to call around to see if any labs in your area would do it without a doctor's referral. Otherwise, you will need to visit your doctor. Good luck, Steve > ** Original Subject: CS>CHALKY URINE > ** Original Sender: Joe Mitchell > ** Original Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:15:03 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Would someone please tell me what this might indicate? I have noticed > it on two or three occasions in the past two days. > > Thanks, > > Joe Mitchell > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>More on my friend with Diabetes
Hello List, The friend I earlier told you about, who had the leg wound and Diabetes, has a more serious problem. His kidneys seem to be failing and his body is retaining water. In the past few days, he has gained 22 pounds. The infectious disease specialist he saw today said he could heal his wound but it wouldn't do any good until his water retention problem is resolved. Until then, the fluids will continue to ooze from the wound because of the water pressure. He was prescribed "Bemadex" and "Zocarlin" for that purpose, but no success so far. Any suggestions? Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>My cold !!!! Making silver
Several months ago, my wife read in a magazine about a product called Zicam. You spray it in your nose and the is stopped in just a few days. My personal experience with it (twice) was that the cold went through all the unpleasant stages but did in in a much shorter time. In my case, the cold ran its course in three days instead of the usual 7-10 days. Don't know how well it will work with an established cold. In my case, I purchased it ahead of time so had it on hand when the cold started. Worked so well, I now have one for both of us as a precaution. It is over-the counter and cost around $9.00 at WalMart. Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>My cold Making silver > ** Original Sender: Ode Coyote > ** Original Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:00:46 + > ** Original Message follows... > > All the sniffling and runny nose can continue long after the cold is > gone. I call it "cleaning house after the monster makes the mess" > The actual cold is gone when that "beat with a lead pipe" feeling goes > away. If any pipe beating feelings are about or scratchy throat etc, it's > already too late for prevention and high doses of CS will only limit the > damage...and all damage must be cleaned up. > ..and yes, there is some question about how well oral application does that. > My experience is that CS does great on sore throats but it's hard to tell > exactly what effect it has on the deep bugs. It seems to help a lot to > shorten recovery time but only with a very fast and early high dose response. > Ken > > > > At 01:22 AM 6/19/01 -0700, you wrote: > >I have a silver pulser to make silver the way Beck claims and then I got > >info off the list to make it with 6 volt adapter attached to silver wire > >or coins with a air stone because it was suppose to be better.!!!Then I > >drank it and drank it about 4 or 5 ounces a couple times and I still get > >the cold!! I can see the silver with the beck unit and I can slightly > >taste it with the other method! Look I want it to work more than the > >next guy but when do ya get real and stop the BS!! It works only if its > >made like this or the particles have to be this size for it to work! Or > >no you have to injest it! The stuff I made seems to work on food poisong > >but not on nothin else I will not give up though and I will keep > >drinking it to see if anything changes with this cold!!! JOEY > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS Co-Op
Hello List, Anyone know whether there are any co-ops devoted to making CS? I live in Atlanta, and am exploring the possibility of forming a local co-op to make CS. There are three reasons: 1. To sell CS through health food stores, who are members of the co-op, for a price around $2.50 per ounce. It presently sells for around $5.00 per ounce. 2. To make CS available at no charge to people who have a need for it but cannot afford even the $2.50 per ounce price. 3. And last, but unfortunately not least, to make some money to help supplement my SS income. Please let me know if you know of one, or would like to start one in your own local area. It would be good if we could exchange ideas. Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: Re: CS not working on a leg infection
Dumb question probably Marshall, but what is CMO? Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS not working on a leg infection > ** Original Sender: Marshall Dudley > ** Original Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:34:49 + > ** Original Message follows... > > I had lyme and numbness as well. After getting rid of the lyme, the feeling > eventually came back. CMO got rid of the arthritis. > > Marshall > > Marshalee Hallett wrote: > > > > Hi List...I have discovered and used a combination of elements for > > > drawing out infections. One cancer on the nose. One prospective amputee > > to > > > which they had removed about 1/3 of the bottom of her foot and when I saw > > it > > > there was nothing but exposed bone, flesh, cartilage and it was > > reinfecting > > > with staph. She had no feeling in her feet for years and poor > > circulation. > > > Used 3 cups bentonite, 1 cup charcoal (best with 30% ash), 1 cup > > > diatomaceous earth, 1/4 cup 130,000mhu cayenne pepper and 4 quarts of > > silver > > > colloid to make this into a paste. In one week it had drawn out the > > > infection and now in about 2 months the wound is almost totally closed and > > a > > > good measure of feeling has returned to the area affected. Am now trying > > to > > > get them to apply the paste to the rest of the foot to see if it will draw > > > circulation and sensitivity back into the rest of the foot. Hope this > > > helps. h...@mcmo.net > > > Stephen K. Hessler, N.M.D. > > > > Dear Stephen, > > I had Lyme, and apparently it damaged the nerves in my feet. They aren`t > > totally numb yet, but are getting there (paresthesia). I have no sores, the > > feet look fine. I just can`t feel things as well as I used to. > > Do you think the above will help me, or do you have any other suggestions > > for me?? > > Thanks, > > Marshalee > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS not working on a leg infection
Hello Stephen, Where would one readily get the ingredients - heath food stores or somewhere on the web? Thanks for the info. Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS not working on a leg infection > ** Original Sender: "Stephen Hessler" > ** Original Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:34:19 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Hi List...I have discovered and used a combination of elements for > drawing out infections. One cancer on the nose. One prospective amputee to > which they had removed about 1/3 of the bottom of her foot and when I saw it > there was nothing but exposed bone, flesh, cartilage and it was reinfecting > with staph. She had no feeling in her feet for years and poor circulation. > Used 3 cups bentonite, 1 cup charcoal (best with 30% ash), 1 cup > diatomaceous earth, 1/4 cup 130,000mhu cayenne pepper and 4 quarts of silver > colloid to make this into a paste. In one week it had drawn out the > infection and now in about 2 months the wound is almost totally closed and a > good measure of feeling has returned to the area affected. Am now trying to > get them to apply the paste to the rest of the foot to see if it will draw > circulation and sensitivity back into the rest of the foot. Hope this > helps. h...@mcmo.net > Stephen K. Hessler, N.M.D. > HC 1 Box 175 > Centerville, MO 63633 > 573-924-2254 (usually home after 8 pm) > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>E-mail sorting in Outlook Express...
Something else to consider is using another browser that is free and has a GREAT email filtering program. Very easy to use. The thing I really like about it (and I had always been a Netscape user before using this one) is that you don't have to drop out of your browser and start up your mail program to check your mail. It will even, if you wish, pop-up a window telling you that you have mail. The browser is called NeoPlanet and (I think) the URL is http://www.neoplanet.com. If that doesn't work do a search or let me know. Oh, another thing - it is similar to the Microsoft Explorer browser to the extent that you can share "Favorites" addresses. Good luck, Steve > ** Original Subject: CS>E-mail sorting in Outlook Express... > ** Original Sender: "M. G. Devour" > ** Original Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:15:37 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Hi Beverle, > > You wrote: > > If it isn't too much trouble could you tell me the steps to "train" > > my email? I belong to about 7 lists and it would be fun to have > > them grouped. > > With your indulgence, ma'am, I'm copying my reply to the list as well > as you. Others may benefit! > > You are using Microsoft Outlook Express, which is the default e-mail > reader for Windows systems. I can tell this because, buried in the > super-secret message headers from your query is the line: > > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > > Tricking your program to *show* you all these wonderful headers and the > super-secret information they contain is the topic for another tutorial > alltogether, so I'll leave that for now! > > Now, please take a few minutes to read about a way to make it *MUCH* > easier to manage all your future mailing list subscriptions using > Outlook Express. If you find this useful, let me know. If you need > additional help, just ask. > > The easiest way to deal with mailing lists is to have your e-mail > program sort the incoming messages according to where they're from and > put them in a separate mail folder. This keeps you a *whole* lot saner > than dealing with many dozens of messages all mixed together in a > jumble in your in-box! > > To do this in Microsoft Outlook Express, click on the menus: > Tools>Message Rules>Mail to bring up the mail rules dialog box. Click > the New button to define a new rule. > > In the New Mail Rule dialog box, check the box next to "Where the > Subject line contains specific words" in the first list, and on "Move it > to the specified folder" in the second list. > > Down below, you'll see your rule taking shape, with highlighted fields > for "contains specific words" and "specified" (folder). > > Click on "contains specific words" to bring up the "Type specific > words" dialog box and type CS> in the upper field, then click on the ADD > button, then OK. > > Click on "specified" to bring up the Move dialog box. Double click on > Local Folders, then click the New Folder button. Type in a name like > Silver List Messages, then press OK. Then, click on the new folder name > you created to make sure it's selected, then press OK. > > Now you should be back in the New Mail Rule dialog. The 4th field lets > you give the rule you just created a descriptive name so you can know > what it does when you look at your list of rules. So call it something > like "silver list sorting rule..." > > Finally, you can click OK to close the New Mail Rule dialog box and > return to the Message Rules list. You should see the new rule you > created at the end of the list. If you click on it, you should see > something like this in the Rule Description field: > > Apply this rule after the message arrives > Where the Subject line contains 'CS>' > Move it to the silver list messages folder > > If everything looks okay, just click OK! Then, the next time you > download your mail, any messages with CS> in the Subject line *should* > be sent automatically to this separate folder. > > The great thing is, if you forget about the list for a few days and > accumulate a few dozen messages, you can either leave 'em or delete 'em > or read 'em, without having to carry a bunch of messages in your inbox. > > Just for practice, you can set about making similar sorting rules for > each of the other mailing lists that you're on. By the time you're > done, you'll be an expert in using this feature. > > Anyway, that's a lot of answer, but I hope it's helpful. If I've > guessed wrong and given you a lot more or less information than you > need, or told you stuff you already know, please forgive me. > > If there's anything more you need, just ask! > > Be well, > > Mike Devour > silver-list owner > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@eskimo.com] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an
CS>re: Re: CS not working on a leg infection
Thanks Nina. Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS not working on a leg infection > ** Original Sender: "Nina Silver, Ph.D." > ** Original Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:36:07 + > ** Original Message follows... > > - Original Message -From: A.V.R.A > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: CS not working on a leg infection > > > > Steve: > > > > Treating a non-healing wound in a diabetic patient is not easy. Spraying > > colloidal silver on it is not usually going to do the trick. Remember, > the > > primary issue we are dealing with is lack of oxygen to the wound site. > > You might consider supplementing the silver with an oxygen-rich product like > Cellfood or Microhydrin Or, if your friend can afford it, an ozone unit with > a plastic body suit. The person climbs into it and the ozone is absorbed > through the skin. This is good for all types of infections. (I have no > business interest in any of these). You call find all three items on the > Internet. > > Nina > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS not working on a leg infection
Thanks A.V.R.A., Your comments seem pertinent to the problem. I haven't actually seen the wound so cannot comment as to its actual size and depth - but will find out. Have you an opinion of Silverlon in a situation like this? Please go to the end of your message - it seem to have stopped before you completed your thought for " If the infection has become septic, ". Thanks, Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS not working on a leg infection > ** Original Sender: "A.V.R.A" > ** Original Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:45:49 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Steve: > > Treating a non-healing wound in a diabetic patient is not easy. Spraying > colloidal silver on it is not usually going to do the trick. Remember, the > primary issue we are dealing with is lack of oxygen to the wound site. The > colloidal silver might be reducing the bacterial count on the surface > temporarily. Once the silver is "deactivated", the infection simply > continues. > > There are a number of ways to approach such an infection. Most of them take > a good deal of work to implement. > > One idea is to drink a large amount of colloidal silver several times daily. > I say idea because the effectiveness of this method is in question. If > enough silver can be delivered via the blood to the site, this will have an > impact on the infection. More importantly, it will help reduce the chance > that the infection enters the bloodstream. > > Brooks also recently posted a method to simulate a hyperbaric treatment by > pressurizing a bag sealed over the appendage in question. This treatment > forces oxygen into the tissues. > > To use silver externally to assist in the infection two things must be > accomplished. 1) The silver must reach the "seat" of the infection and 2) > the silver must maintain contact with the tissues long enough to continue to > reduce the bacterial count. > > The wound type is important here. Is it an open gaping wound? What is the > diamater of the exposed tissue? How deep is the wound? > > Spraying the colloidal silver on the wound, or even soaking a dressing and > applying it to the wound would be largely ineffective if the wound is deep. > > While it is encouraging that your friend's MD recognizes the benefit of > silver as an infection fighting agent, Silvadine ( Silver Sulfadiazine ) is > primarily used to prevent infections on exposed tissue, such as a severe > burn or a skin graft donor site. The cream is also unlikely to reach the > root of a deep infection. > > If the infection has become septic, > - Original Message -From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 5:19 PM > Subject: CS not working on a leg infection > > > > Hello List, > > > > A friend with diabetes has a serious leg infection. I gave him 5 PPM CS, > in a spray bottle, that has some MSM in it. I gave it to him two weeks ago. > I am told he is regularly spraying it on his wound, but it is not healing. > Any suggestions? > > > > He has been referred to an infectious disease specialist but his > appointment isn't until July. A lot of bad things could happen in that > time. > > > > Oh, a new primary doctor prescribed "Silver Sulfadiazine" creme. Know > anything about it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve Radcliff > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>wound healing
Thanks Hugh. Steve > ** Original Subject: CS>wound healing > ** Original Sender: "hughman1" > ** Original Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:55:08 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Steve, > Aloe Life products are available in health food stores but the internet > might be easier. > www.aloelife.com > Hugh > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>5 PPM Colloial Silver vs 10 PPM and Higher
Thanks Frank. > > Finally ... the BYU lab test report was paid for by American Silver. > > Anyone know whether CS prepared by ITS process is any more effective > > against bacteria than CS made by regular methods, including homemade CS? > > If it IS more effective, does anyone know why that is so? Do you know whether it is any more effective than the CS Pro system, or does it just produce more at one time? > The American Silver product is made using the HVAC process. In fact they > filed for and received a patent for a machine that has 8 HVAC power supplies > driving electrodes in a single 15 gallon tank. > > Each one of the 8 HVAC power supplies is identical to the CS PRO HVAC system > developed and sold by Bruce Marx. > > frank key > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS not working on a leg infection
Thanks Bob and Roger. > ** Original Subject: Re: CS not working on a leg infection > ** Original Sender: "Robert L. Berger" > ** Original Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:01:26 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Roger; > > I reported about 6 months ago that Dr. Bill Biagioli had a patient with a > serious > staph A infection. He packed the wound with gauze and flooded it with 12 ppm > silver ( that is all he will use), and kept it bandaged for 5 weeks. Complete > cure, it worked like the Silverlon bandage. > > "Ole Bob" > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS>5 PPM Colloial Silver vs 10 PPM and Higher
> Hello List, > > I have seen CS in health food stores showing 10 PPM, 20 PPM and even higher > claims of PPM concentration on the bottle labels. I have also seen > assertions, plus a BYU lab test report, stating that 5 PPM was all that was > needed to kill all bacteria. Is there ever a time when a PPM greater than 5 > is needed? If yes, please describe the circumstance(s). > > Steve: Good question. I've gotten excellent results from 1 PPM HVAC CS. Please tell me what you mean by HVAC CS. How does it differ from batteries or 6v converter? > > Also, while the BYU lab test report stated that 5 PPM killed all bacteria in > the test, nothing was said about viruses. Is there a information on how much > PPM is needed to combat them little bugs? > > Finally ... the BYU lab test report was paid for by American Silver. Anyone > know whether CS prepared by ITS process is any more effective against > bacteria than CS made by regular methods, including homemade CS? If it IS > more effective, does anyone know why that is so? > > Steve: I'm vaguely aware of studies using virus, I'll have to look around for > the references. > Roger, are you referring to the way CS kills viruses in the above statement? > Steve: I know there have been some in vitro studies, but I'm unaware of in > vivos studies. Roger, are you referring to the way American Silver makes CS in the above statement? Roger > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: Re: CS not working on a leg infection
Don't know. If he is spraying it every few hours, is keeping it moist important? > ** Original Subject: Re: CS not working on a leg infection > ** Original Sender: rogalt...@aol.com > ** Original Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:54:44 + > ** Original Message follows... > > In a message dated 6/16/01 5:22:49 PM EST, svr9...@att.net writes: > > << Subj: CS not working on a leg infection > Date: 6/16/01 5:22:49 PM EST > From: svr9...@att.net > Reply-to: svr9...@att.net (svr) > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > Hello List, > > A friend with diabetes has a serious leg infection. I gave him 5 PPM CS, in > a spray bottle, that has some MSM in it. I gave it to him two weeks ago. I > am told he is regularly spraying it on his wound, but it is not healing. Any > suggestions? > >> > > Steve: Is he keeping it moist with CS throughout the day? Roger > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS not working on a leg infection
Hello List, A friend with diabetes has a serious leg infection. I gave him 5 PPM CS, in a spray bottle, that has some MSM in it. I gave it to him two weeks ago. I am told he is regularly spraying it on his wound, but it is not healing. Any suggestions? He has been referred to an infectious disease specialist but his appointment isn't until July. A lot of bad things could happen in that time. Oh, a new primary doctor prescribed "Silver Sulfadiazine" creme. Know anything about it? Thanks, Steve Radcliff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>5 PPM Colloial Silver vs 10 PPM and Higher
Hello List, I have seen CS in health food stores showing 10 PPM, 20 PPM and even higher claims of PPM concentration on the bottle labels. I have also seen assertions, plus a BYU lab test report, stating that 5 PPM was all that was needed to kill all bacteria. Is there ever a time when a PPM greater than 5 is needed? If yes, please describe the circumstance(s). Also, while the BYU lab test report stated that 5 PPM killed all bacteria in the test, nothing was said about viruses. Is there a information on how much PPM is needed to combat them little bugs? Finally ... the BYU lab test report was paid for by American Silver. Anyone know whether CS prepared by ITS process is any more effective against bacteria than CS made by regular methods, including homemade CS? If it IS more effective, does anyone know why that is so? Thanks, Steve
CS>Sounds good to me
Count me in. Steve Radcliff svr9...@att.net > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Suggested Use of a Gatorade-CS Mixture to Learn > More About CS Properties > ** Original Sender: rogalt...@aol.com > ** Original Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:58:56 + > ** Original Message follows... > > In a message dated 6/16/01 11:23:43 AM EST, bober...@swbell.net writes: > > << Subj: Re: CS>Suggested Use of a Gatorade-CS Mixture to Learn More > About CSProperties > Date: 6/16/01 11:23:43 AM EST > From: bober...@swbell.net (Robert L. Berger) > Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > > Roger; > > This smay sound a bit arrogant, but I believe that my HVAC ARC CO2 method is > one > of the more consistant methods for making nearly total ionic CS. Besides I > have > the spect. to test it, and if desired I will get a pH meter. > > So, if desired I would supply the CS required. > > "Ole Bob" > >> > > Bob: That doesn't sound arrogant at all, just a damn good suggestion. Another > advantage of you being the supplier is that you have experience with using > H2O2 to decrease any remaining silver particulate down to practically zero. > Perhaps to further simplify our test, you could supply only 100% ionic > silver, so folks could use it straight as one prep, and mix it with 2:1 with > Gatorade as the other prep. That way we would be comparing only 2 types of > preps. This approach would greatly simplify the interpretation of the results. > > SO HOW ABOUT IT FOLKS. HOW MANY OF YOU VOLUNTEER TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS STUDY? > > Bob, how much CS do you think would be sufficient to ship to people, a > gallon, or so? I think it would be appropriate that those who wish to > participate to agree to send you enough money to cover all your cost > (shipping, containers, any labels, packing materials, etc.). To keep shipping > cost down, I think we would have to limit participation to the contiguous USA > and Canada. I'm glad you're in the middle of the country so that shipping > costs will be kept to a minimum. Another idea to keep things as simple as > possible, how about everyone agreeing to contribute the same regardless where > they live. That way, you won't have to waste time figuring individual > shipping costs. Another possibility to substantially reduce shipping costs is > to have you make, say, a 30 PPM brew, and let us reduce it down to 5. BTW, if > you underestimate your costs, there is no reason we couldn't have a second > round of contributions. Well, it's time to get off my soapbox and let others > contribute their ideas. Roger > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>FTC Settles Internet Fraud Charges
Hello, Tried the link and got this message: "We're sorry, but the link you have followed is either incorrect or goes to a page that is temporarily unavailable or no longer exists. Feedback" > ** Original Subject: CS>FTC Settles Internet Fraud Charges > ** Original Sender: jrowl...@nctimes.net > ** Original Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:19:44 + > ** Original Message follows... > > "Thursday, June 14, 2001; 3:49 p.m. EDT > > WASHINGTON The Federal Trade Commission has settled > fraud > charges against five companies that used the Internet > to sell miracle cures > for everything from AIDS to cancer..."Operation > Cure.All"... targeted > companies offering an array of dietary supplements and > medical devices including: > ...colloidal silver ...touted as a cure for numerous > ailments..." > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010614/aponline154953_000..htm > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: RE: CS>re: RE: CS & DMSO
Suggest you use OJ or some other drink like Gatorade, as the MSM taste is quite bad. Check out the other properties of MSM. If you then decide MSM is something you need and expect to use a lot of, you can buy 99.9% MSM at a feed store (as well as DMSO) for around $10.00 per pound. Unfortunately, at least it was in my case, you may have to buy it in a 2 1/2 pound can. Remember, as with DMSO, MSM was first developed for live stock, and they need a lot more than do we mortals. Suggest you first buy the smallest bottle of MSM capsules you can find at a health food store and use their contents before making a bulk purchase. You may find the taste too much for you. If you do, then you will not have wasted $25, or so, by making the bulk purchase. Good luck, Steve > ** Original Subject: RE: CS>re: RE: CS & DMSO > ** Original Sender: Roger Daymude > ** Original Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 03:54:12 + > ** Original Message follows... > > Are you saying I should put MSM in my CS in the morning instead of my OJ? > Maybe all three. > > Raji > > -Original Message-From: svr9...@att.net [SMTP:svr9...@att.net] > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:34 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>re: RE: CS & DMSO > > I understand MSM is the best part of DMSO without the negative side > effects. I have also heard that MSM helps to deliver CS better than CS by > itself. > > > > ** Original Subject: RE: CS & DMSO > > ** Original Sender: Ed Kasper > > ** Original Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:23:46 + > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > the only problem I've heard of DMSO is that it too excellent of a > delivery > > system. In other words it will take everything along with it - right to > the > > bone ! Now if all that is in solution is good stuff FINE but what if some > of > > the many pathogens lying on the skin go along for the ride as well !!! > > > > Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist & Medicinal Herbalist > > Santa Cruz, California & www.happyherbalist.com > > e-mail edkas...@pacbell.net > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Beverle Sweitzer [mailto:aber...@erols.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:53 AM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: CS & DMSO > > > > > > I read this interesting article the other day about using DMSO as a > > delivery system for vitamin B12 and wondered if it could also be used for > CS > > application. Don't holler at me for being dumb if this has been asked > > before. > > Thanks, > > Beverle > > > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>re: RE: CS & DMSO
I understand MSM is the best part of DMSO without the negative side effects. I have also heard that MSM helps to deliver CS better than CS by itself. > ** Original Subject: RE: CS & DMSO > ** Original Sender: Ed Kasper > ** Original Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:23:46 + > ** Original Message follows... > > the only problem I've heard of DMSO is that it too excellent of a delivery > system. In other words it will take everything along with it - right to the > bone ! Now if all that is in solution is good stuff FINE but what if some of > the many pathogens lying on the skin go along for the ride as well !!! > > Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist & Medicinal Herbalist > Santa Cruz, California & www.happyherbalist.com > e-mail edkas...@pacbell.net > > > -Original Message- > From: Beverle Sweitzer [mailto:aber...@erols.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:53 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS & DMSO > > > I read this interesting article the other day about using DMSO as a > delivery system for vitamin B12 and wondered if it could also be used for CS > application. Don't holler at me for being dumb if this has been asked > before. > Thanks, > Beverle > >** - End Original Message --- ** > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: RE: CS>Urine in Big Trouble if You Try this at Home. Yes or No?
Yuck!! > ** Original Subject: RE: CS>Urine in Big Trouble if You Try this at Home. Yes > or No? > ** Original Sender: "James Osbourne, Holmes" > ** Original Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:20:23 + > ** Original Message follows... > > A nice warm foaming glass...yum. > > James-Osbourne: Holmes > > -Original Message-From: Dick Tanguay [mailto:tang...@midmaine.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:07 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Urine in Big Trouble if You Try this at Home. Yes or No? > > "Clinically Tested!", "Medically Proven!" so says Martha M. Christy in her > book "Your Own Perfect Medicine". Seems to have plenty of research showing > its benefits. I'd put my money on Martha Christy. > > Dick > > > - Original Message -From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:18 AM > Subject: CS>Urine in Big Trouble if You Try this at Home. Yes or No? > > > > List: I got the following off Quackwatch. Is there anyone out there > qualified > > to tell me whether on not the following statement is true (especially the > > part that says urine contains "toxic waste, bacteria, germs ...")? BTW, > I'm > > NOT asking about your feelings about drinking urine. We've covered THAT > > ground at least once. So relax. Roger > > > > While some praise urine consumption as a cure-all, some Thai doctors warn > > the practice could be harmful despite the various nutrients in urine. > > "Besides the presence of these useful substances ... urine contains toxic > > waste, bacteria and germs which are removed naturally from the system," > > Seree Tuchina, director general of Thailand's Department of Medical > > Services, was quoted as saying. "Therefore, those people who choose to > > consume urine should be very careful," he said. > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>Reported Gatorade Content & a Suggested Experiment
> List: > > I had a chance to pick up a bottle of Gatorade and check the ingredients. > Here's what is contains: > > sucrose syrup > glucose-fructose syrup (14 grams total sugars, 0 grams protein ) > citric acid > natural lemon and lime flavors with other natural flavors > salt (110 mg sodium, 30 mg potassium) > sodium citrate > monopotassium phosphate > ester gum > yellow5 > > There seems to be more than enough salt to tie up ionic silver. So if a > Gatorade 100% ionic CS (I know, I know -- a contradiction of terms) works > internally for OTHER THAN lung infections, I think that would constitute very Roger, does this statement mean that the Gatorade/CS mix works on lung infections? If yes, how should it be taken? My wife suffers from Pulmonary Sarcoidosis, which has caused permanent scarring and severely diminished lung capacity. So diminished that she needs to be on oxygen 24/7. The scarring ALSO provides an ideal nesting place for bacteria, and makes it very difficult for drugs to kill them all. The one drug that seemed to work last year also damaged her inner ear and her balance has been permanently affected. So, you can see my interest in finding an effective alternative. > strong evidence indeed that ionic silver can STILL FUNCTION as a germicide > despite the presence of excess chloride. > > So, how many of you out there would be interested to mix their CS brew with a > little H2O2 to get rid of any remaining particulate silver and then mix that How much H2O2 per 8 ounce glass of CS? I have Food Grade H2O2 (35%) that I purchased in hopes of adding oxygen to her blood, but have been afraid to because of a fear of potential damage to her internal organs. So, your layman's opinion would be appreciated. Also, Anne uses a nebulizer to to inhale 1 ounce of CS three times a day. This is being done in hopes that her diminished breathing capacity has been due to another lung infection. However, she hasn't been coughing much and her breathing hasn't improved. So, if the CS used in this manner, I must guess her breathing problem is not being caused by infection. Think a combination of CS and H2O2 would help to oxygenate her blood? BTY, I am also looking into making the Ozone generator recommended by Dr. Jon Brooks on his web site, in hopes of aiding Anne's breathing. Any thoughts on his process? Thanks, Steve > combo, one to one, with Gatorade? Use it when you have other-than-a-lung > internal infection and let us know the result. Roger > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
re: CS>PH paper
Thanks Hugh > ** Original Subject: CS>PH paper > ** Original Sender: "Hugh & Julie" > ** Original Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:26:45 + > ** Original Message follows... > > You can order PH paper from Micro Essential Laboratory at (718) 338-3618. > > Hugh Boggs, Michigan >** - End Original Message --- ** > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>How did you determine PPM?
Hello Arthur, How did you determine the PPM of your CS and how did you make it? Thanks, Steve > ** Original Subject: Re: CS>Simple Eye Experiments May Provide Insight About > Selected CS Preps > ** Original Sender: alltogether...@webtv.net (Arthur Rambo) > ** Original Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:49:26 + > ** Original Message follows... > > BTW, I had a metal splinter removed from my eye a couple of days ago, > and was prescribed a topical anti-biotic, but instead used 30 ppm CS. >No problems. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >** - End Original Message --- ** >
CS>pH Strips
Where can I purchase the strips to test for pH? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
