Re: CS>Silver gel

[Jaxi Schulz]

http://www.silverpuppy.com/


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:21 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Ode, what is the name of your website, please?
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Ode Coyote 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2013 6:42 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Silver gel
>
>
>
>DMSO works great with the kits.
>  Just about anything water soluble...like a tincture of whatever.
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 01:02 PM 10/13/2013 -0700, you wrote:
>
> Wanted to share my personal and very positive experience with Elixa's gel
> kits. Am on my third order now and everybody including me loves it. Been
> making my own Ionic-colloidal silver for 2 yrs now, and have just recently
> had all my upper teeth pulled in preparation for dentures.  Not saying this
> is safe or a good idea, butI did use the gel as "Part" of my healing
> protocol, and it worked very well!  You need to be careful with the
> ingredients separately, but once it's made, it has out performed any store
> bought stuff hands down.  Has anybody tried mixing this combo w/DMSO ?  Am
> going after post-stroke muscle and joint pain in particular.  Any input on
> the subject, good or bad is equally appreciated. thanks in advance,
> mlbrown
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Silver gel

[PT Ferrance]

Ode, what is the name of your website, please?
Thanks.
PT





 From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver gel
 




   DMSO works great with the kits.
 Just about anything water soluble...like a tincture of
whatever.

Ode



At 01:02 PM 10/13/2013 -0700, you wrote:

Wanted to share my personal and
very positive experience with Elixa's gel kits. Am on my third order now
and everybody including me loves it. Been making my own Ionic-colloidal
silver for 2 yrs now, and have just recently had all my upper teeth
pulled in preparation for dentures.  Not saying this is safe or a
good idea, butI did use the gel as "Part" of my healing
protocol, and it worked very well!  You need to be careful with the
ingredients separately, but once it's made, it has out performed any
store bought stuff hands down.  Has anybody tried mixing this combo
w/DMSO ?  Am going after post-stroke muscle and joint pain in
particular.  Any input on the subject, good or bad is equally
appreciated. thanks in advance,
mlbrown   

Re: CS>Silver gel

[Ode Coyote]

   DMSO works great with the kits.
 Just about anything water soluble...like a tincture of whatever.

Ode



At 01:02 PM 10/13/2013 -0700, you wrote:
Wanted to share my personal and very positive experience with Elixa's gel 
kits. Am on my third order now and everybody including me loves it. Been 
making my own Ionic-colloidal silver for 2 yrs now, and have just recently 
had all my upper teeth pulled in preparation for dentures.  Not saying 
this is safe or a good idea, butI did use the gel as "Part" of my 
healing protocol, and it worked very well!  You need to be careful with 
the ingredients separately, but once it's made, it has out performed any 
store bought stuff hands down.  Has anybody tried mixing this combo w/DMSO 
?  Am going after post-stroke muscle and joint pain in particular.  Any 
input on the subject, good or bad is equally appreciated. thanks in 
advance, mlbrown

CS>Silver gel

[Michael Brown]

Wanted to share my personal and very positive experience with Elixa's gel kits. 
Am on my third order now and everybody including me loves it. Been making my 
own Ionic-colloidal silver for 2 yrs now, and have just recently had all my 
upper teeth pulled in preparation for dentures.  Not saying this is safe or a 
good idea, butI did use the gel as "Part" of my healing protocol, and it 
worked very well!  You need to be careful with the ingredients separately, but 
once it's made, it has out performed any store bought stuff hands down.  Has 
anybody tried mixing this combo w/DMSO ?  Am going after post-stroke muscle and 
joint pain in particular.  Any input on the subject, good or bad is equally 
appreciated. thanks in advance, mlbrown       

RE: CS>Silver Gel

[Neville Munn]

Straight homebrew EIS fixed mine, but gotta say, it's taking forever for the 
new nail to replace the old crusty looking nail, like 12 months or so now, but 
it's nearly gone.  Maybe I got slow growing nails .
N.

From: brick...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:23:43 -0400
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com






Hi Sandee
Do you say to repeat the toenail treatments? I understand it takes 6 
months to grow new toenails, so they probably would be re-infected. Also I 
found 
my infra red laser worked to control toenail fungus. My wife is afraid to use 
my 
laser. My wife finally agreed to cover her gel laden toenails with a 
throw away pair of plastic gloves. I faintly recall messages that pretty much 
said to buy gel kits from Ode. Never got the connection to use gel for 
toenail fungus as I found silver did not control fungus in my Xmas trees.
Brickey
 
In a message dated 8/29/2013 11:48:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
andre.ju...@gmail.com writes:

years - 
  admittedly only with collodial silver - nothing else - and yes it kills 
fungus 
  maybe not in half an hour but  
  a few days    
  

Re: CS>Silver Gel

[Brickeyk]

Hi Sandee
Do you say to repeat the toenail treatments? I understand it takes 6  
months to grow new toenails, so they probably would be re-infected. Also I 
found  
my infra red laser worked to control toenail fungus. My wife is afraid to 
use my  laser. My wife finally agreed to cover her gel laden toenails with a  
throw away pair of plastic gloves. I faintly recall messages that pretty 
much  said to buy gel kits from Ode. Never got the connection to use gel for  
toenail fungus as I found silver did not control fungus in my Xmas trees.
Brickey
 
In a message dated 8/29/2013 11:48:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
andre.ju...@gmail.com writes:
 
years -  admittedly only with collodial silver - nothing else - and yes it 
kills fungus  maybe not in half an hour but   
a few days 

Re: CS>Silver Gel

[André Juthe]

How do you  make the gel?

André


2013/8/29 Sandee George 

> Hi Brickley maybe because you do not read the posts - I have made
> collodial silver gel for over ten years - admittedly only with collodial
> silver - nothing else - and yes it kills fungus maybe not in half an hour
> but
> a few days Glad to hear you found it finally - certainly because
> it works That is always the bottom line - if it works then you have
> a good thing 
> Reards
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is Everything !
> Colloidal Silver Products
> Organo Gold Healthy Coffee
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Silver Gel

[Sandee George]

Hi Brickley maybe because you do not read the posts - I have made collodial 
silver gel for over ten years - admittedly only with collodial silver - nothing 
else - and yes it kills fungus maybe not in half an hour but 
a few days Glad to hear you found it finally - certainly because it 
works That is always the bottom line - if it works then you have a good 
thing 
Reards
Sandee🐬
Attitude is Everything !
Colloidal Silver Products
Organo Gold Healthy Coffee

CS>Silver Gel

[Brickeyk]

Health Max 24 a 24 ppm silver solution gel was shown at our local fair. The 
 seller said that it would cure toenail fungus in 1 hour. Put the gel on 
and  cover with a condom for one hour. Spray shoes with EIS. She said this is  
one of Dr Gordon's products made  with de ionized water, silver, TEA  and 
Carbomer. My wife bought a tube for $30. I find it hard to believe it is so  
good when this list has not mentioned it. My wife tried it but just put on a 
 sock, no condoms. I thought Dr Gordon has posted in the past, why haven't 
we  heard of it?
Brickey
 
 

RE: CS>Silver gel

[Ode Coyote]

  Sure, but you are diluting the CS and since CS doesn't do much in a semi 
solid, being that only the surface interface is active and the rest can't 
move to that interface, you need as much PPM concentration as possible.


Ode



At 04:47 PM 10/15/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Can't you make a "gel" per se by merely adding some EIS to some aloe? I read
that somewhere online...seems like it would do the trick.

-Original Message-
From: Sandee George [mailto:sandee...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sandee George
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 3:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver gel

Hi There Dave - I do not understand what you are talking about with
the gel you say you make/made - I have been making Colloidal Silver
gel for the past six years and have never had the problems you say you
have, Ode has a
perfectly good gel kit for sale on his website, all you have to do is
buy it, follow his directions by mixing it with colloidal silver (EIS)
and you have a perfectly good gel.   This comment is not directed at
your personally, how ever I observe many on this list in need of doing
their own thing, when a perfectly good way has been achieved by many
here over the years, who are the base for all we know and are able to
share with those who wish to learn. However if there are those who are
so into their egos that they cannot accept the work of others which
has been perfected then so be it.   As a result of this observation
there are many new-comers who are completely confused by all the ego
suggestions !



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RE: CS>Silver gel

[Lisa]

Can't you make a "gel" per se by merely adding some EIS to some aloe? I read
that somewhere online...seems like it would do the trick.

-Original Message-
From: Sandee George [mailto:sandee...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sandee George
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 3:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver gel

Hi There Dave - I do not understand what you are talking about with  
the gel you say you make/made - I have been making Colloidal Silver  
gel for the past six years and have never had the problems you say you  
have, Ode has a
perfectly good gel kit for sale on his website, all you have to do is  
buy it, follow his directions by mixing it with colloidal silver (EIS)  
and you have a perfectly good gel.   This comment is not directed at  
your personally, how ever I observe many on this list in need of doing  
their own thing, when a perfectly good way has been achieved by many  
here over the years, who are the base for all we know and are able to  
share with those who wish to learn. However if there are those who are  
so into their egos that they cannot accept the work of others which  
has been perfected then so be it.   As a result of this observation  
there are many new-comers who are completely confused by all the ego  
suggestions !



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Re: CS>Silver gel

[Sandee George]

Hi There Dave - I do not understand what you are talking about with  
the gel you say you make/made - I have been making Colloidal Silver  
gel for the past six years and have never had the problems you say you  
have, Ode has a
perfectly good gel kit for sale on his website, all you have to do is  
buy it, follow his directions by mixing it with colloidal silver (EIS)  
and you have a perfectly good gel.   This comment is not directed at  
your personally, how ever I observe many on this list in need of doing  
their own thing, when a perfectly good way has been achieved by many  
here over the years, who are the base for all we know and are able to  
share with those who wish to learn. However if there are those who are  
so into their egos that they cannot accept the work of others which  
has been perfected then so be it.   As a result of this observation  
there are many new-comers who are completely confused by all the ego  
suggestions !


Take good care and continue the good work you do
Regards
Sandee


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CS>Silver gel

[Tony Moody]

Dave,

I made silver Gel directly in various gel mediums but they all turned black 
(well light grey ) on
making. All I did was place the rods directly in a gel filled jar and stirred 
with the rods. It was a
long time ago and I think before I 'invented ' my own current control circuit. 
I tried boiled
starch, chicken broth and KY gel. The KY was the best because it was smooth, 
clear, but
also fairly expensive, tho one used very little. I ended up making it in a 
small squat bottle
about 15 ml  . I also bought some ecg electrode conductive gel and that was very
economical. That was a medical gel with silver and silver chloride mixed in.  I 
think it was for
one of my childrens zits, which were not bad anyway. Erm I was a bit concerned 
about the
kids turning black due to argyria.

Ode or Marshall have gel ingredients to make your own.

OK,
Tony

On 14 Oct 2010 at 16:05, Dan Nave wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Is the list quiet?

> Other people, notably Wayne Fugitt, have made CS gels with Aloe Vera.
>
> However, I don't think that anyone tried to do an electrolysis process
> in aloe gel.
> The CS was made in the normal way and added to any gel after it was
> made.
> I remember that he recommended adding baking soda to it to neutralize
> the pH of the resultant product.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Jim Holmes 
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have asked a couple of questions, and addressed one of them
> specifically
> > to Marshall and Neyna.
> >
> > "What do you know about making a sol in Aloe Vera jell using silver
> rounds";
> > and what silver compounds might it have?"
> >
> > Did I miss the response, or is no one interested?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >  Jim
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM, MaryAnn Helland
> 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Not wearing boots, Mike!  :-)  Fuzzy slippers,
> tho
> >> :-D
> >> MA
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: M. G. Devour 
> >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 4:25:13 AM
> >> Subject: Re: CS>Is the list quiet?
> >>
> >> > Or have I been booted?  :-D
> >> > MA
> >>
> >> I dunno, MaryAnn, are you wearing boots? 
> >>
> >> It has been a little quiet.
> >>
> >> Mike D.
> >>
> >> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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CS>Silver gel

[Tony Moody]

Dave,

I made silver Gel directly in various gel mediums but they all turned black 
(well light grey ) on
making. All I did was place the rods directly in a gel filled jar and stirred 
with the rods. It was a
long time ago and I think before I 'invented ' current control. I tried boiled 
starch, chicken
broth and KY gel. The KY was the best because it was smooth, clear, but also 
fairly
expensive, tho one used very little. I ended up making it in a small squat 
bottle about 15 ml  .
I also bought some ecg electrode conductive gel and that was very economical. 
That was a
medical gel with silver and silver chloride mixed in.  I think it was for one 
of my childrens zits,
which were not bad anyway. Erm I was a bit concerned about the kids turning 
black due to
argyria.

Ode or Marshall have gel ingredients to make your own.

OK,
Tony

On 14 Oct 2010 at 16:05, Dan Nave wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Is the list quiet?

> Other people, notably Wayne Fugitt, have made CS gels with Aloe Vera.
>
> However, I don't think that anyone tried to do an electrolysis process
> in aloe gel.
> The CS was made in the normal way and added to any gel after it was
> made.
> I remember that he recommended adding baking soda to it to neutralize
> the pH of the resultant product.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Jim Holmes 
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have asked a couple of questions, and addressed one of them
> specifically
> > to Marshall and Neyna.
> >
> > "What do you know about making a sol in Aloe Vera jell using silver
> rounds";
> > and what silver compounds might it have?"
> >
> > Did I miss the response, or is no one interested?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >  Jim
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:07 AM, MaryAnn Helland
> 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Not wearing boots, Mike!  :-)  Fuzzy slippers,
> tho
> >> :-D
> >> MA
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: M. G. Devour 
> >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 4:25:13 AM
> >> Subject: Re: CS>Is the list quiet?
> >>
> >> > Or have I been booted?  :-D
> >> > MA
> >>
> >> I dunno, MaryAnn, are you wearing boots? 
> >>
> >> It has been a little quiet.
> >>
> >> Mike D.
> >>
> >> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CS>silver gel

[Dan Nave]

I don't know if this would work for your product, but it may be worth
experimenting with lecithin.

Dan

http://www.adm.com/en-US/products/Documents/ADM-Europe-Lecithin-for-Emulsification.pdf

"As an emulsifier, soya bean lecithin is used in food applications as
an aerating agent, viscosity modifier, dispersant and lubricant.
Typically, an emulsion is a suspension of small droplets of one
liquid in another liquid with which it is incapable of mixing. Oil-inwater
(O/W) and water-in-oil (W/O) are the two primary types
of emulsions.
Lecithin’s molecular structure makes it an effective emulsifier for the
interaction of water and oil. Phospholipids, the major component
of lecithin, are partly hydrophilic (attracted to water) and partly
hydrophobic (repelled from water). It is lecithin’s ability to
simultaneously interact with both oil and water that makes it such
an effective and stable emulsifier.
When introduced into a system, an emulsifier such as lecithin acts
to help maintain a stable emulsion between two unmixable liquids.
The emulsifier decreases the surface tension between the two
liquids and allows them to mix and form a stable, heterogeneous
dispersion."

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM,   wrote:
> Lecithin is an emulsifier...
>
>                                                Chuck
> When in doubt empty the magazine.
>
>
> On 11/6/2009 1:10:29 PM, Bethany Methven (mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com)
> wrote:
>> Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel? I have
>> been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil
>> and colloidal silver gel. I am having a hard time getting the oils and
>> waxes to blend with the silver water. It keeps separating, even when I
>> bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler. Is there some
>> sort of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can mix
>> with the water. When the "gel" sets up at the end, I have a hard top of
>> waxy stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.  I would love any
>> ideas.
>>
>> Thanks - Beth
>>
>>
>> Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for
>> thousands of years! (907) 357-8954 or methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com
>
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Fw: CS>silver gel

[Del]

Sorry, meant Tetrasil.

Del
- Original Message - 
From: Del 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: CS>silver gel


Anybody know what ever happened with Tetras?
It was a big topic of conversation for a while.
It is still for sale (expensive) but I rarely hear it mentioned anymore.
Is it a scam (as many claim), or is it for real?
I tried it once and got no results from it, but 
that doesn't mean much.
I know Jason thought it had big potential,
at least back then he did.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gayla Roberts 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:51 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>silver gel


  Slippery elm powder will thicken it too.
  Gayla
  Bob and Gayla Roberts
  Always Enough Ranch
  Acampo, CA
- Original Message - 
From: Jane MacRoss 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: CS>silver gel


Beth I haven't checked to see if there are other answers to this - how 
about a non oil based gelling agent? You'd have to keep it in the fridge, but 
starch based like they thicken foodstuffs with? You don't have to heat anything 
too much but its pretty instant, or agar gar, something like that?

Jane
  - 
  From: Bethany Methven 


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel? 
 
Thanks  -  Beth




   

Re: CS>silver gel

[Del]

Anybody know what ever happened with Tetras?
It was a big topic of conversation for a while.
It is still for sale (expensive) but I rarely hear it mentioned anymore.
Is it a scam (as many claim), or is it for real?
I tried it once and got no results from it, but 
that doesn't mean much.
I know Jason thought it had big potential,
at least back then he did.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gayla Roberts 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:51 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>silver gel


  Slippery elm powder will thicken it too.
  Gayla
  Bob and Gayla Roberts
  Always Enough Ranch
  Acampo, CA
- Original Message - 
From: Jane MacRoss 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: CS>silver gel


Beth I haven't checked to see if there are other answers to this - how 
about a non oil based gelling agent? You'd have to keep it in the fridge, but 
starch based like they thicken foodstuffs with? You don't have to heat anything 
too much but its pretty instant, or agar gar, something like that?

Jane
  - 
  From: Bethany Methven 


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel? 
 
Thanks  -  Beth




   

Re: CS>silver gel

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Ode sells a gel making kit.  dee

On 6 Nov 2009, at 18:10, Bethany Methven wrote:

Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?   
I have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount  
of vit. E oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time  
getting the oils and waxes to blend with the silver water.  It keeps  
separating, even when I bring it to a very high temperature in a  
double broiler.  Is there some sort of natural agent that would  
break down the oils so that they can mix with the water.  When the  
"gel" sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy stuff and then  
silver water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas.


Thanks  -  Beth

Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been  
used for thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com

Re: CS>silver gel

[Scotty]

I learned a few years ago that we don't need to use PPM when making our CS. 
Especially when using high DC voltage. All the CS that we all make has 
nano-sized particles in it. This is the reason why CS works so well on or in 
any surface! The way I made mine and found out that I've got good, stable CS is 
by "brewing" a batch until it started turning yellow, timing it. I used this 
"yellow" CS as a great disinfectant. I never throw out CS! I then made a new 
batch and cut back the time a few minutes and now I have a nice, clear product. 
PPMs can be important to some but not to all!
 
P.S. I use a multimeter to measure my DC voltage to my silver electrodes to 
ensure conductivity!
 
Scott <><
"With God, all things are possible." - Mark 10:27



 


--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Silver Smith  wrote:


From: Silver Smith 
Subject: Re: CS>silver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 7:30 PM


Scotty,

1 fluid oz of CS to 16 Tbsp (8 oz) of oil does not seem like a enough CS?  That 
is a 1:9 dilution?

A 1:9 dilution of  20ppm CS gives you an approximate 2.2 ppm concentration of 
CS.  Is that enough to do any good?

Thoughts,

Thanks,

SS





  

Re: CS>silver gel

[Scotty]

One has to (slowly at very low heat) "boil" the beeswax, oil and CS. Beeswax is 
a natural emulsifier. If you don't "emulsify" them together you will have 
nothing but globs. Whipping (I use a hand mixer), while still hot, the final 
product forces ingredients to "bind". No powders are needed if you do this 
correctly. 

Scott <><
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--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Ode Coyote  wrote:


From: Ode Coyote 
Subject: Re: CS>silver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 4:14 AM




Oil and water don't mix, do they?
To get them to mix, you'll pretty much be making soap.

You could try making an emulsion
"How" ?  [... just off the top of the ole noggin and might make a better mess 
than emulsion]
Make a  thin very loose pre-gel and whip it in a blender with the oils...then 
make it thicker. [by slowly stirring in some really stiff gel ]

Ode


At 10:10 AM 11/6/2009 -0800, you wrote:
> Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I have 
> been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil and 
> colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and waxes to 
> blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I bring it to a 
> very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort of natural 
> agent that would break down the oils so that they can mix with the water.  
> When the "gel" sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy stuff and then 
> silver water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas.
> 
> Thanks  -  Beth
> 
> Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for 
> thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
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Re: CS>silver gel

[Ode Coyote]

 Oil and water don't mix, do they?
 To get them to mix, you'll pretty much be making soap.

 You could try making an emulsion
"How" ?  [... just off the top of the ole noggin and might make a better 
mess than emulsion]
 Make a  thin very loose pre-gel and whip it in a blender with the 
oils...then make it thicker. [by slowly stirring in some really stiff gel ]


Ode


At 10:10 AM 11/6/2009 -0800, you wrote:
Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I 
have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E 
oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils 
and waxes to blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when 
I bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some 
sort of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can mix 
with the water.  When the "gel" sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of 
waxy stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any 
ideas.


Thanks  -  Beth

Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for 
thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com








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Re: CS>silver gel

[Gayla Roberts]

Slippery elm powder will thicken it too.
Gayla
Bob and Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jane MacRoss 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:44 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>silver gel


  Beth I haven't checked to see if there are other answers to this - how about 
a non oil based gelling agent? You'd have to keep it in the fridge, but starch 
based like they thicken foodstuffs with? You don't have to heat anything too 
much but its pretty instant, or agar gar, something like that?

  Jane
- 
From: Bethany Methven 


  Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  
  Thanks  -  Beth




 

Re: CS>silver gel

[Annie B Smythe]

I've bought the silver gel from here:

http://thebreathoflife.net/herbalstore/catalog/silverwater.php

before, the most reasonable that I could find anywhere. It's only 3 ppm 
gel and it does a bang up job. I still have a tiny bit in the 8 oz 
bottle. That's the biggest size I could find also for the money paid. 
I've used it for everything. Works great for bug bites, scratches, and 
just about everything else under the sun. Including diaper rash. And 
it's just the right size to stick in my purse to take with me when I go 
to the grocery store and such to use as a hand sanitizer. I also smear a 
bit in my nose and around my mouth before I expose myself to the hacking 
coughing masses.


It stays put when you apply it, and spreads nicely on a band aid or 
other bandage. It has a nice thickness to it. And it's colorless, 
odorless. Does not leave a sticky residue, And even though that's a 
decent price compared to the other stuff I've found, and it works very 
well. I can still make my own cheaper. Oh and it was made with carbomer, 
says so on the label.


If you make your own CS then the dilution would depend on the ppm CS 
that you started out with. If you make your CS a little stronger the ppm 
will be higher in your finished product.


And I have nothing to do with those folks except that I bought some of 
their silver gel. I'm just saying that 3ppm, as low as that is, still 
works quite well. It surprised me just how well it worked!



Annie




Silver Smith wrote:

Scotty,

1 fluid oz of CS to 16 Tbsp (8 oz) of oil does not seem like a enough 
CS?  That is a 1:9 dilution?


A 1:9 dilution of  20ppm CS gives you an approximate 2.2 ppm 
concentration of CS.  Is that enough to do any good?


Thoughts,

Thanks,

SS

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Scotty <mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com>> wrote:


Do you want it to be natural or not? Gel or lotion? If not, use the
Carbomer 940. If so, use 1 fluid oz CS, 16tbsp oil (almond
preferably), citric acid (1tsp) or Citricidal (25 drops), 2tbsp
filtered beeswax, 5 drops essential oil for fragrance (if desired). 
Melt beeswax at low temp, add oil, let heat for a few minutes, add

CS, stir until all is melted and emulsification will start,
turn heat down to simmer and continue to stir for 10 mins. No more,
no less. *Remember to stir or else you may get an oil "pop"*. Take
off heat, put in a glass or ceramic mixing bowl, add remaining
ingredients and use a hand mixer to "whip it". And whip it
good...lol! Pour the mixture into a container while still warm and
'voila' you have a great lotion! If you want it be more of a salve
add another tbsp of beeswax up front. Hope this helps. I've been
making this for the past year and it works great. It's a bit oily at
first but the skin loves it! Have fun and let me know if you have
any other questions.
 *
Scott <>< *
"With God, all things are possible." - Mark 10:27
*
*

 



--- On *Fri, 11/6/09, Bethany Methven /mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com>>/* wrote:


From: Bethany Methven mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com>>
Subject: CS>silver gel

To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:10 AM


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver
gel?  I have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil,
small amount of vit. E oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am
having a hard time getting the oils and waxes to blend with the
silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I bring it to a
very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort
of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can
mix with the water.  When the "gel" sets up at the end,  I have
a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver water liquid at the
bottom.   I would love any ideas.
 
Thanks  -  Beth


*Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has
been used for thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or
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Re: CS>silver gel

[Silver Smith]

Scotty,

1 fluid oz of CS to 16 Tbsp (8 oz) of oil does not seem like a enough CS?
That is a 1:9 dilution?

A 1:9 dilution of  20ppm CS gives you an approximate 2.2 ppm concentration
of CS.  Is that enough to do any good?

Thoughts,

Thanks,

SS

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Scotty  wrote:

> Do you want it to be natural or not? Gel or lotion? If not, use the
> Carbomer 940. If so, use 1 fluid oz CS, 16tbsp oil (almond preferably),
> citric acid (1tsp) or Citricidal (25 drops), 2tbsp filtered beeswax, 5 drops
> essential oil for fragrance (if desired).  Melt beeswax at low temp,
> add oil, let heat for a few minutes, add CS, stir until all is melted and
> emulsification will start, turn heat down to simmer and continue to stir for
> 10 mins. No more, no less. *Remember to stir or else you may get an oil
> "pop"*. Take off heat, put in a glass or ceramic mixing bowl,
> add remaining ingredients and use a hand mixer to "whip it". And whip it
> good...lol! Pour the mixture into a container while still warm and 'voila'
> you have a great lotion! If you want it be more of a salve add another
> tbsp of beeswax up front. Hope this helps. I've been making this for the
> past year and it works great. It's a bit oily at first but the skin loves
> it! Have fun and let me know if you have any other questions.
>  *
> Scott <><*
> "With God, all things are possible." - Mark 10:27
> *
> *
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 11/6/09, Bethany Methven * wrote:
>
>
> From: Bethany Methven 
> Subject: CS>silver gel
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:10 AM
>
>
>Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I
> have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E
> oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and
> waxes to blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I
> bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort
> of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can mix with
> the water.  When the "gel" sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy
> stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas.
>
> Thanks  -  Beth
>
> *Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used
> for thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or
> methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>silver gel

[Scotty]

Do you want it to be natural or not? Gel or lotion? If not, use the Carbomer 
940. If so, use 1 fluid oz CS, 16tbsp oil (almond preferably), citric acid 
(1tsp) or Citricidal (25 drops), 2tbsp filtered beeswax, 5 drops essential oil 
for fragrance (if desired).  Melt beeswax at low temp, add oil, let heat for a 
few minutes, add CS, stir until all is melted and emulsification will start, 
turn heat down to simmer and continue to stir for 10 mins. No more, no less. 
Remember to stir or else you may get an oil "pop". Take off heat, put in a 
glass or ceramic mixing bowl, add remaining ingredients and use a hand mixer to 
"whip it". And whip it good...lol! Pour the mixture into a container while 
still warm and 'voila' you have a great lotion! If you want it be more of a 
salve add another tbsp of beeswax up front. Hope this helps. I've been making 
this for the past year and it works great. It's a bit oily at first but the 
skin loves it! Have fun and let
 me know if you have any other questions.
 
Scott <><
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--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Bethany Methven  wrote:


From: Bethany Methven 
Subject: CS>silver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:10 AM







Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I have 
been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil and 
colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and waxes to 
blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I bring it to a 
very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort of natural agent 
that would break down the oils so that they can mix with the water.  When the 
"gel" sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver 
water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas. 
 
Thanks  -  Beth


Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for 
thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com


 



  

Re: CS>silver gel

[Jane MacRoss]

Beth I haven't checked to see if there are other answers to this - how about a 
non oil based gelling agent? You'd have to keep it in the fridge, but starch 
based like they thicken foodstuffs with? You don't have to heat anything too 
much but its pretty instant, or agar gar, something like that?

Jane
  - 
  From: Bethany Methven 


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  
Thanks  -  Beth




   

Re: CS>silver gel

[cking001]

Lecithin is an emulsifier...

Chuck
When in doubt empty the magazine.


On 11/6/2009 1:10:29 PM, Bethany Methven (mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com)
wrote:
> Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel? I have
> been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil
> and colloidal silver gel. I am having a hard time getting the oils and
> waxes to blend with the silver water. It keeps separating, even when I
> bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler. Is there some
> sort of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can mix
> with the water. When the "gel" sets up at the end, I have a hard top of
> waxy stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.  I would love any
> ideas.
> 
> Thanks - Beth
> 
> 
> Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for
> thousands of years! (907) 357-8954 or methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com


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Re: CS>silver gel

[Annie B Smythe]

You have to use an emulsifier and a stabilizer, if you want to use waxes 
and/or oils, just like when you make creams.


Most silver gels I've come across just use carbomer 940. There's a place 
that sells it to folks. 
http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/form_carbomer_pre-gel.html It makes a 
crystal clear gel.


Annie

Bethany Methven wrote:


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I 
have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. 
E oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the 
oils and waxes to blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, 
even when I bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is 
there some sort of natural agent that would break down the oils so that 
they can mix with the water.  When the "gel" sets up at the end,  I have 
a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.   I 
would love any ideas.
 
Thanks  -  Beth


*Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used 
for thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or 
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Re: CS>silver gel

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Beth.  Our Ode sells a kit to do this.  Go to www.silverpuppy.com.
MA





From: Bethany Methven 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 12:10:29 PM
Subject: CS>silver gel


Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I have 
been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil and 
colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and waxes to 
blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I bring it to a 
very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort of natural agent 
that would break down the oils so that they can mix with the water.  When the 
"gel" sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver 
water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas. 

Thanks  -  Beth


Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for 
thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com

Re: CS>silver gel

[Dan Nave]

You might try a little lecithin.

Dan

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bethany Methven wrote:

>   Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I
> have been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E
> oil and colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and
> waxes to blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I
> bring it to a very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort
> of natural agent that would break down the oils so that they can mix with
> the water.  When the "gel" sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy
> stuff and then silver water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas.
>
> Thanks  -  Beth
>
> *Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used
> for thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or
> methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com*
>
>
>
>
>
>

CS>silver gel

[Bethany Methven]

Could anyone give me some ideas with making a colloidal silver gel?  I have 
been trying to use beeswax beads, coconut oil, small amount of vit. E oil and 
colloidal silver gel.  I am having a hard time getting the oils and waxes to 
blend with the silver water.  It keeps separating, even when I bring it to a 
very high temperature in a double broiler.  Is there some sort of natural agent 
that would break down the oils so that they can mix with the water.  When the 
"gel" sets up at the end,  I have a hard top of waxy stuff and then silver 
water liquid at the bottom.   I would love any ideas. 
 
Thanks  -  Beth


Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for 
thousands of years!  (907) 357-8954 or methvencolloidalsil...@yahoo.com


 


  

Re: CS>silver gel "It works Good"

[Scotty]

Bethany,
 
I use almond oil instead of coconut oil as the skin absorbs almond oil much 
quicker. I found coconut oil to be too oily. I'm doing marketing research with 
my "kreamy balm" at this time and have no negative feedback!


Scott <><
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--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Tel Tofflemire  wrote:


From: Tel Tofflemire 
Subject: Re: CS>silver gel "It works Good"
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 5:03 PM






Bethany,
Your on the right track, Keep trying and asking.


 I use organic Bee's Wax for a stabilizer. If you choose The bee's Wax you need 
to cook it in and start with a small amounts, Cook it means to use a Doubler 
Broiler pan (water in the bottom pan,) bring to low heat and melt the wax, you 
must stay with it and not over cook it, I mix all my ingredients in after the 
wax melts, (that will sorta harden the wax for a while) but it will melt fast 
now that it has broken down,  you must keep stirring it, sounds like a lot of 
work but it is awesome. Most people can cure cold sores in one day, and use on  
cuts, Itch, bites, scratches, scrapes, any skin problem. (You don't want to 
start with a big batch)  I don't have it on my website because I can't keep up 
with my local customers.
 Don't use my name, "Super Silver Salve," I like a soft salve myself.
(Super Silver Salve)

Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
Dewey, AZ.

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Bethany Methven  wrote:


From: Bethany Methven 
Subject: CS>silver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:36 AM








I am trying to do some research about making a silver first aid gel.  I am 
thinking of mixing coconut oil ( an excellent antiviral) and base, vitamin E,  
aloe vera gel and approx. 15 - 20 ppm ionic/ colloidal silver.  I would love 
any feed back from you all about that.  Any ideas of things to add, percentages 
in the mix, etc? 
 
Thanks - Beth

 




  

Re: CS>silver gel

[Melly Bag]

If you want it to solidify like a cream, add a bit of beeswax. 

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Garnet  wrote:


From: Garnet 
Subject: Re: CS>silver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:01 PM




Someone on the DMSO list has been posting her experiences
trying to mix
coconut oil into DMSO gel with CS in it and it did not mix
well. She described
it as turning into a curdled mess. Could have been due to
the liquid in
the CS.

She said she got the gel kit from Ode Coyote. Two powders
that are mixed together.

What's in the kit Ode?

Here is a site that sells a base with aloe, hydroxy
cellulose and coconut oil
already mixed so it must be possible, although it has an
emulsifying wax and
alcohol in it.

http://www.essentialwholesale.com/product_p/1010.htm

Garnet

Bethany Methven wrote:
> 
> I am trying to do some research about making a silver first aid gel.  I am 
> thinking of mixing coconut oil ( an excellent antiviral) and base, vitamin 
> E,  aloe vera gel and approx. 15 - 20 ppm ionic/ colloidal silver.  I would 
> love any feed back from you all about that.  Any ideas of things to add, 
> percentages in the mix, etc?
>  Thanks - Beth
>  
> 


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Re: CS>silver gel

[Garnet]

Someone on the DMSO list has been posting her experiences
trying to mix
coconut oil into DMSO gel with CS in it and it did not mix
well. She described
it as turning into a curdled mess. Could have been due to
the liquid in
the CS.

She said she got the gel kit from Ode Coyote. Two powders
that are mixed together.

What's in the kit Ode?

Here is a site that sells a base with aloe, hydroxy
cellulose and coconut oil
already mixed so it must be possible, although it has an
emulsifying wax and
alcohol in it.

http://www.essentialwholesale.com/product_p/1010.htm

Garnet

Bethany Methven wrote:


I am trying to do some research about making a silver first aid gel.  I 
am thinking of mixing coconut oil ( an excellent antiviral) and base, 
vitamin E,  aloe vera gel and approx. 15 - 20 ppm ionic/ colloidal 
silver.  I would love any feed back from you all about that.  Any ideas 
of things to add, percentages in the mix, etc?
 
Thanks - Beth
 






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Re: CS>silver gel "It works Good"

[Tel Tofflemire]

Bethany,Your on the right track, Keep trying and asking.
 I use organic Bee's Wax for a stabilizer. If you choose The bee's Wax you need 
to cook it in and start with a small amounts, Cook it means to use a Doubler 
Broiler pan (water in the bottom pan,) bring to low heat and melt the wax, you 
must stay with it and not over cook it, I mix all my ingredients in after the 
wax melts, (that will sorta harden the wax for a while) but it will melt fast 
now that it has broken down,  you must keep stirring it, sounds like a lot of 
work but it is awesome. Most people can cure cold sores in one day, and use on  
cuts, Itch, bites, scratches, scrapes, any skin problem. (You don't want to 
start with a big batch)  I don't have it on my website because I can't keep up 
with my local customers. Don't use my name, "Super Silver Salve," I like a soft 
salve myself.(Super Silver Salve)

Tel Tofflemirehttp://www.quailwoodherbal.com

Dewey, AZ.

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Bethany Methven  wrote:

From: Bethany Methven 
Subject: CS>silver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:36 AM


I am trying to do some research about making a silver first aid gel.  I am 
thinking of mixing coconut oil ( an excellent antiviral) and base, vitamin E,  
aloe vera gel and approx. 15 - 20 ppm ionic/ colloidal silver.  I would love 
any feed back from you all about that.  Any ideas of things to add, percentages 
in the mix, etc? 
 
Thanks - Beth

 


  


  

CS>silver gel

[Bethany Methven]

I am trying to do some research about making a silver first aid gel.  I am 
thinking of mixing coconut oil ( an excellent antiviral) and base, vitamin E,  
aloe vera gel and approx. 15 - 20 ppm ionic/ colloidal silver.  I would love 
any feed back from you all about that.  Any ideas of things to add, percentages 
in the mix, etc? 
 
Thanks - Beth

 


  

Re: CS>silver gel

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Righto so I'll be looking forward to some interesting colour  
combinations then?  Makes life interesting anyway.  dee


On 15 Jul 2009, at 09:11, Ode Coyote wrote:




 The gel is bound to be about any color it wants to be..you are,  
after all, contaminating the silver ions...and some of the resulting  
compounds can be photo reactive too.
But silver in just about any form will kill germs, some better than  
others.


Ode

Re: CS>silver gel

[Ode Coyote]

  The gel is bound to be about any color it wants to be..you are, after 
all, contaminating the silver ions...and some of the resulting compounds 
can be photo reactive too.

But silver in just about any form will kill germs, some better than others.

Ode



At 12:09 PM 7/14/2009 +0100, you wrote:
just a question.  I've made some gel using 24ppm silver but it is a 
peculiar browny colour.  Is this right?  MTIA  dee



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Re: CS>silver gel even for crotch itch.

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks Tel.  dee

On 14 Jul 2009, at 17:23, Tel Tofflemire wrote:

The color comes from your gel, (whatever you emulsify CS with) I use  
organic bees wax, need to cook it for several hours on low heat,  
until it is liquid and then stir in CS about 50/50 by volume and  
turn up the heat for a few min, then back down when it emulsifies.  
stir non stop,  ( Flows as one )  Keep stirring during cool down non  
stop. Let  cool and you have a great CS salve, my best seller is for  
lip salve, but you can use it on any skin problem like cuts, burns,  
itch, pimples, cold sores, feet itch, etc. Use your imagination,  
Like crotch itch etc.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com

--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:

Re: CS>silver gel even for crotch itch.

[Tel Tofflemire]

The color comes from your gel, (whatever you emulsify CS with) I use organic 
bees wax, need to cook it for several hours on low heat, until it is liquid and 
then stir in CS about 50/50 by volume and turn up the heat for a few min, then 
back down when it emulsifies. stir non stop,  ( Flows as one )  
Keep stirring during cool down non stop. Let  cool and you have a great CS 
salve, my best seller is for lip salve, but you can use it on any skin problem 
like cuts, burns, itch, pimples, cold sores, feet itch, etc. Use your 
imagination, Like crotch itch etc.Tel Tofflemire

Dewey, AZ.
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com 
--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
Subject: CS>silver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 5:09 AM

just a question.  I've made some gel using 24ppm silver but it is a peculiar 
browny colour.  Is this right?  MTIA  dee


  

CS>silver gel

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

just a question.  I've made some gel using 24ppm silver but it is a  
peculiar browny colour.  Is this right?  MTIA  dee

Re: CS>silver gel

[Marshall Dudley]

A few weeks ago I post a bunch of methods of producing silver gel.  Were
you not able to use any of them?

Marshall

Pavel Hochmut wrote:

> Any findings how to make gel containing CS ?
> Many Thanks
> Pavel Hochmut
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Re: CS>Silver Gel

[sol]

Given that I remember reading here of CS becoming ineffective when put 
into agar medium for testing against bacteria, plus reports of creams 
and gels molding even with large proportions of CS used in making them, 
I also don't believe a gel would be as effective as using liquid CS and 
keeping it wetted. In the past I have done this by wetting the 
application area well and covering with a bandage wetted with CS. In an 
area where a bandage could not be applied, the wound was wetted with CS 
and covered with a thick layer of an ointment I had on hand already.


My preferred method now is to use liquid CS with 10% DMSO added for 
taking the CS deep into the tissues.


I do make my own cream using CS as the liquid portion, but that is just 
because I have plenty of CS so why not use it instead of DW? And I know 
from experience that this cream will mold if left out of refrigeration.


I like to keep it simple. I frankly do not see the point (for myself, of 
going to the trouble to make up a gel as it is extra work for less 
effectiveness. But this is just my two cents. Fine for those who feel 
the need for a gel.

sol


Ode Coyote wrote:


I would think a jel would be less effective than a soaked bandage...but...
works works and convenience is convenience.
Gel should be made with VERY strong CS so ions and particles don't have to
migrate to make sufficient contact.  Particle size isn't much of an issue
topically.

Ode

At 05:51 PM 6/25/2005, you wrote:
 


Just a thought, but wouldn't the silver ions or particles be held in place
   


by a gel and be unable to move to the intended area it was meant to treat ?
 


Bill

   




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Re: CS>Silver Gel

[Ode Coyote]

 I would think a jel would be less effective than a soaked bandage...but...
works works and convenience is convenience.
Gel should be made with VERY strong CS so ions and particles don't have to
migrate to make sufficient contact.  Particle size isn't much of an issue
topically.

Ode

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Re: CS>Silver Gel

[Sandee George]

To the contrary Bill - the gel holds the silver particles in place so
that they
can penetrate better - try some Vera-sil out of Australia - this is
colloidal silver
plus aloe and is an amazing gel - I have had amazing results with it.   I
will be 
very interested to see the KD version which elle is going to be putting
out !   
"Gel will soon be available in kit form ... to make your own.   I will
post the in-
formation when it's ready" elle.
Regards
Sandee

"The one who accomplished it is the one
who failed to realize that he could not do it."


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CS>Silver Gel

[William Amos]

Just a thought, but wouldn't the silver ions or particles be held in place by a 
gel and be unable to move to the intended area it was meant to treat ?

Bill


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RE: CS>silver gel

[elle roberts]

Gel will soon be available in kit form ... to make your own.
I will post the information when it's ready.

elle


From: "Pavel Hochmut" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: CS>silver gel
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:30:14 +0200

Any findings how to make gel containing CS ?
Many Thanks
Pavel Hochmut


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CS>silver gel

[Pavel Hochmut]

Any findings how to make gel containing CS ?
Many Thanks 
Pavel Hochmut


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