Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
Tony, I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his back legs and right shoulder. I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about. I watch him and if he starts limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems to take care of it. Tom ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:08:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it. Hullo Mary Lou, Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a site where I could get the info. I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is on 10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several homeopathic Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn t seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the morning. Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS. Thanks, Tony Mary Lou Borgert wrote: Paula, I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have prednizone (drug). I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2 yrs. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .image/gif
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
Hi.what is Myo-Tone?...Robb - Original Message - From: Tom Mary McFadden To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it. Tony, I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his back legs and right shoulder. I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about. I watch him and if he starts limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems to take care of it. Tom ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:08:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it. Hullo Mary Lou, Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a site where I could get the info. I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is on 10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several homeopathic Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn't seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the morning. Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS. Thanks, Tony Mary Lou Borgert wrote: Paula, I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have prednizone (drug). I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is. I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2 yrs. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here image/gif
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
ROBB, MYO-TONE IS FOR LIGAMENTS, TENDONS AND MUSCLES tOM ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, November 09, 2002 5:51:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it. Hi.what is Myo-Tone?...Robb - Original Message - From: Tom Mary McFadden To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it. Tony, I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his back legs and right shoulder. I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about. I watch him and if he starts limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems to take care of it. Tom ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:08:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it. Hullo Mary Lou, Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a site where I could get the info. I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is on 10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several homeopathic Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn t seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the morning. Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS. Thanks, Tony Mary Lou Borgert wrote: Paula, I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have prednizone (drug). I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2 yrs. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .image/gif
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Hi.what is Myo-Tone?...Robb I went to www.google.com and typed MYO-TONE into the search box. Here are a few urls that came up: Enzymatic TherapyMyo-Tone ... Myo-Tone provides a well-balanced ratio of vitamins and minerals that must be present in the diet for collagen functions which affect the ligaments, tendons ... www.suzannes.com/allnatstrenp.html - 36k - Cached - Similar pages Myo-Tone, Enzymatic Therapy, 80 tabs Label Information: Myo-Tone, Enzymatic Therapy, 80 Tablets Dietary supplement to maintain the integrity of ligaments, tendons, and muscles* ... www.iherb.com/myotone.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages Herbs and herbal medicines for diseases treatment. ... Myo-Tone. Enzymatic Therapy. Size/Type, 80 Tabs. ... Myo-ToneT provides a well-balanced combination of vitamins and minerals in a base of other natural factors. ... www.herbaladvisor.com/shop/xq/asp/ ptid.12928/qx/productDetail.htm - 60k - Cached - Similar pages -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.Trem, I could have, and may, down the road opt for orthotics, but the $$ is a big issue and I have about 6 friends and aquaintances who spent the hundreds on orthotics that didn't help at all but the $45 birkenstock blue did. Not to say you are wrong, maybe we don't have access to properly made orthotics here, but I just couldn't afford to take the chance. I also don't have quite as good results as you :-( but good enough for now. I sympathize, I have also never been able to have comfortable shoes, so would go barefoot, or wear slide on slippers, flip flops, etc. My barefoot days are over, that's for sure. I've had the cortisone for other tendon problems in other joints, once with excellent results, once with poor very short term results to show for the pain of it. Can't face it again, and don't want the stuff in my body anyway, now that I know moreit is amazing how much ones mental and emotional health improves when feet don't hurt! In my case, tendon problems have gone from one part of my body to the other for years. The feet are merely the latest outbreak that started early this year. I believe the tendon problems that have plagued me for many years now and that have gone through one joint after the other are all related to my intestinal problems. Candida is a strong suspect and I'm hopeful the CS will help a lot. paula -- I might add that even better arch supports are orthotics. After finally getting the orthotics 10 or 12 years ago (maybe even longer) the pain went away almost instantly and I now go for 2 mile walks on logging roads a few times each week and can go shopping again with no discomfort. It requires going to a podiatrist and paying for him to make a mold of your foot and then having a lab make the fiberglass shoe insert. In my case it was a couple of hundred bucks and it has been the best investment in my health in all my life. I have 2 pairs now and put them into every shoe, boot,and slipper I use. I wouldn't put a shoe on without inserting them. My pain was so bad that the doctor had to shoot me in the heel fascia with cortisone initially to relieve the pain before I could even get to wear them. Once I was able to get into them it was all downhill from there. Bucks well spent! What a relief. And to think I spent over 50 years with aching feet trying toil figure out what the problem was and how to solve it. Trem - Original Message - From: sol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it. Mary Lou, One of the reasons I am using CS is to try to get rid on intestinal candida. One of my current problems is plantar fasciitis.You are so right about arch supports. I have gotten arch supports and wear them every minute I'm on my feet, even in the house in my slippers, bought specially so I could wear the supports in them. And of course good shoes also with extra arch supports. I'm not cured, but the difference is amazing. I can barely walk a step barefoot or without the supports. It did take me several months to get ones that worked, heel cups, gel insoles, other Dr. Scholl's type ones didn't work. The birkenstock blue ones have been lifesavers for me. Don't most people read about meds they are Rx'd in the PDR or similar? Now that is some scary, yet they are too scared of CS to try it? Perhaps you are right and some people choose to keep their illnesses and pain. paula -- Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi (cats) mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter - Original Message - From: Mary Lou Borgert . It is incredible how absolutely ingrained drugs are in the mind of people. I also work with people as a volunteer helping them with their sciatic problem. 99% of the time a bad back and the sciatic are the cause of the falling arches, I show them why by using acupressure on the feet and tell them that they must get arch supports but no they would rather have the pain and pain it is.
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
Hullo Mary Lou, Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a site where I could get the info. I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is on 10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several homeopathic Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn't seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the morning. Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS. Thanks, Tony Mary Lou Borgert wrote: Paula, I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have prednizone (drug). I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is. I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2 yrs. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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on 11/6/02 8:59 AM, sol at pcar...@wyoming.com wrote: The thing that I think makes me the saddest about this is that a trial of CS absolutely can't hurt anything or cause any side effects whatsoever, If I am reading all the info correctly. Well, except for the slight possiblilty of argyria, which I gather is strictly a cosmetic problem and causes no health effects at all? It is like the 12 to 15 years I tried to get help from allopathic physicians---you can see by their eyes and body language that they are not listening..at this point, I am so sceptical of allopathic medicine that I truly pity anyone who completely puts their life in its hands. paula -- Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi (cats) mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter Paula, I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have prednizone (drug). I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is. I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2 yrs. I would not let my mom on this drug the doctor was upset because I would not but he asked why and I told him he answered by saying that I was right that the drug was responsible for killing 8 of his patients. I almost fell over backward he than walked out and I heard him on the phone doubling the prednizone, he looked at me and shrugged his shoulders, and said if they don't know I am not going to tell them. It is incredible how absolutely ingrained drugs are in the mind of people. I also work with people as a volunteer helping them with their sciatic problem. 99% of the time a bad back and the sciatic are the cause of the falling arches, I show them why by using acupressure on the feet and tell them that they must get arch supports but no they would rather have the pain and pain it is. I was a friend of a chiro. she quit her practice because of her back I looked down at her tennis shoes and she was walking( almost) on her fallen arches I told her to look in the mirror that her problem could possibly be her feet but no she wanted the pain and that I was zilch(not a professional and what would I know). she is now in constant pain and on DRUGS when simple arch supports might have helped, she never even tried them. I have gotten so many people out of their wheelchairs, walkers, canes by making them get better shoes or arch supports, but most would rather suffer the pain, as in c/s I no longer say anything to anyone for they just don't get it. I am so glad for this group and have learned much. THANKS ALL
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Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.Mary Lou, One of the reasons I am using CS is to try to get rid on intestinal candida. One of my current problems is plantar fasciitis.You are so right about arch supports. I have gotten arch supports and wear them every minute I'm on my feet, even in the house in my slippers, bought specially so I could wear the supports in them. And of course good shoes also with extra arch supports. I'm not cured, but the difference is amazing. I can barely walk a step barefoot or without the supports. It did take me several months to get ones that worked, heel cups, gel insoles, other Dr. Scholl's type ones didn't work. The birkenstock blue ones have been lifesavers for me. Don't most people read about meds they are Rx'd in the PDR or similar? Now that is some scary, yet they are too scared of CS to try it? Perhaps you are right and some people choose to keep their illnesses and pain. paula -- Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi (cats) mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter - Original Message - From: Mary Lou Borgert . It is incredible how absolutely ingrained drugs are in the mind of people. I also work with people as a volunteer helping them with their sciatic problem. 99% of the time a bad back and the sciatic are the cause of the falling arches, I show them why by using acupressure on the feet and tell them that they must get arch supports but no they would rather have the pain and pain it is.
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Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.Hi, I might add that even better arch supports are orthotics. I was in heel pain for years and tried all of the items you mentioned and some others too. I tried to find comfortable shoes all my life...even when I was a kid. Nothing really relieved the burning pain. When I went shopping with my wife I would walk on the carpeted area at the malls and when she wanted to stop in a mall store I would ask a clerk where's the men's sitting chair?. After finally getting the orthotics 10 or 12 years ago (maybe even longer) the pain went away almost instantly and I now go for 2 mile walks on logging roads a few times each week and can go shopping again with no discomfort. It requires going to a podiatrist and paying for him to make a mold of your foot and then having a lab make the fiberglass shoe insert. In my case it was a couple of hundred bucks and it has been the best investment in my health in all my life. I have 2 pairs now and put them into every shoe, boot,and slipper I use. I wouldn't put a shoe on without inserting them. My pain was so bad that the doctor had to shoot me in the heel fascia with cortisone initially to relieve the pain before I could even get to wear them. Once I was able to get into them it was all downhill from there. Bucks well spent! What a relief. And to think I spent over 50 years with aching feet trying toil figure out what the problem was and how to solve it. Trem - Original Message - From: sol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it. Mary Lou, One of the reasons I am using CS is to try to get rid on intestinal candida. One of my current problems is plantar fasciitis.You are so right about arch supports. I have gotten arch supports and wear them every minute I'm on my feet, even in the house in my slippers, bought specially so I could wear the supports in them. And of course good shoes also with extra arch supports. I'm not cured, but the difference is amazing. I can barely walk a step barefoot or without the supports. It did take me several months to get ones that worked, heel cups, gel insoles, other Dr. Scholl's type ones didn't work. The birkenstock blue ones have been lifesavers for me. Don't most people read about meds they are Rx'd in the PDR or similar? Now that is some scary, yet they are too scared of CS to try it? Perhaps you are right and some people choose to keep their illnesses and pain. paula -- Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi (cats) mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter - Original Message - From: Mary Lou Borgert . It is incredible how absolutely ingrained drugs are in the mind of people. I also work with people as a volunteer helping them with their sciatic problem. 99% of the time a bad back and the sciatic are the cause of the falling arches, I show them why by using acupressure on the feet and tell them that they must get arch supports but no they would rather have the pain and pain it is.
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
The thing that I think makes me the saddest about this is that a trial of CS absolutely can't hurt anything or cause any side effects whatsoever, If I am reading all the info correctly. Well, except for the slight possiblilty of argyria, which I gather is strictly a cosmetic problem and causes no health effects at all? It is like the 12 to 15 years I tried to get help from allopathic physicians---you can see by their eyes and body language that they are not listening..at this point, I am so sceptical of allopathic medicine that I truly pity anyone who completely puts their life in its hands. paula -- Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi (cats) mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter
CSCS and refusal to use it.
Hi Brooks, I know exactly how you feel. My mother in law has been in and out of the hospital for many years with ongoing Crohns problems. A couple of years ago she got MRSA (Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus) in the hospital. They worked on her for a long time giving her Vancomycin as the final shot at getting rid of it. We offered to provide CS to her so she could try it instead of antibiotics (or even in conjunction). She hemmed and hawed and made excuses. We even sent her one of our automatic generators so she could easily make it. Guess what...she never used the machine and so we asked her other daughter who lives nearby to make it for her so she wouldn't have to do it herself. Still, she didn't use it. Said she'd think on it. Well, they did eventually clear her up with Vancomycin. Recently she had to go back in the hospital again and sure enough she got staph again. This time it was VRSA (Vancomycin Resistant Staph) and there's no bigger gun than Vancomycin. We offered to ship CS to her so she could take it without having to lift a finger. Once again she paid lip service but never did take it. Now she is so deathly ill my wife has gone back east to be with her, expecting the end is near. We all know what the outcome will be. So, the old adage really is trueyou can lead a horse to the water but you sure can't make him drink it. We tried for several years to get her to use it to no avail. How frustrating a situation it's been for us because we would tell her of the miraculous recoveries our customers had and she would say that's nice and continue on not accepting our help. And if anyone could tell her a litany of anecdotal recoveries it was us. So, don't feel bad. Your brother is another one who believes the allopathic path is best and the rest is voodoo. You did your best.so did we. My best regards sir, Trem Subject: Re: CSRe: CS reaction with stainless steel valve in heart Dear Marshall, Excellent observation. We have determined that CS will, in fact, plate out in similar circumstances as stated in this situation. If CS plating had been used in past installations of such devices, the mortality rate from opportunistic pathogenic agents, probably, would have been much lower. My only brother (78 yro overweight diabetic) nicked himself with a fish-hook about 3 months ago. Within 15 days he experienced a severe cardiac episodewhich the alleopathic attendants surmised to be a stroke. However, it took them 5 days to determine there was an infected heart valve causing the increasing insufficiency (this after a precipitous decline in his condition). Eight weeks later plus $245,000 in expense. he was taken home.unable to rise or stand. His complete recovery is problematical. This gentleman has placed his faith and destiny---unflinchingly---in the hands of the alleopathic community. Needless to say, one can imagine how stressful this has been on me..when we have documented evidence (reams of it) exhibiting the efficacy of ancillary adjunctive protocols which are both non-invasive and non-toxic--and NON-REACTIVE with the alleopathic agents involved..which could have served to mediate quite effectivelyin his case. Sam (my brother) is a dedicated searcher for the Silver Bullet..but only if cast by the Alleopathic Gods. This case serves to increase my sadness relative to the general circumstance of systemic cultural conditioning aimed a maintaining an, almost, religious zeal among the target population. Do forgive the intensity of this diatribe...it is just a reflection of my heart-sickness relative to the entire circumstance. Sincerely, Brooks.