Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-09 Thread Tom Mary McFadden
Tony,  I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his back
legs and right shoulder.  I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic
Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about.  I watch him and if he starts
limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems
to take care of it.  Tom

---Original Message---

From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:08:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it.

Hullo Mary Lou,
Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a
site where I could get the info. 

I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I
have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is
on
10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several
homeopathic
Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn
t
seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the
morning. 

Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS.

Thanks,
Tony

Mary Lou Borgert wrote:
 

 
 Paula,
 I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have
 prednizone (drug).
 I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is

 I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people
 but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within
2
 yrs.


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Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-09 Thread Robb Allen
Hi.what is Myo-Tone?...Robb
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom  Mary McFadden 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:30 PM
  Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.


Tony,  I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his 
back legs and right shoulder.  I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic 
Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about.  I watch him and if he starts 
limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems to 
take care of it.  Tom

---Original Message---

From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:08:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it.

Hullo Mary Lou,
Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me 
to a
site where I could get the info. 

I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water 
but I
have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She 
is on
10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several 
homeopathic
Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She 
doesn't
seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the
morning. 

Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS.

Thanks,
Tony

Mary Lou Borgert wrote:
 

 
 Paula,
 I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have
 prednizone (drug).
 I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this 
drug is.
 I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to 
people
 but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died 
within 2
 yrs.


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Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-09 Thread Tom Mary McFadden
ROBB, MYO-TONE IS FOR LIGAMENTS, TENDONS AND MUSCLES   tOM

---Original Message---

From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, November 09, 2002 5:51:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it.

Hi.what is Myo-Tone?...Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom  Mary McFadden 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.


Tony,  I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his back
legs and right shoulder.  I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic
Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about.  I watch him and if he starts
limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems
to take care of it.  Tom

---Original Message---

From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:08:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it.

Hullo Mary Lou,
Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a
site where I could get the info. 

I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I
have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is
on
10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several
homeopathic
Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn
t
seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the
morning. 

Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS.

Thanks,
Tony

Mary Lou Borgert wrote:
 

 
 Paula,
 I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have
 prednizone (drug).
 I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is

 I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people
 but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within
2
 yrs.


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Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-09 Thread C Creel
Hi.what is Myo-Tone?...Robb



   I went to www.google.com  and typed MYO-TONE
into the search box.


  Here are a few urls that came up:


Enzymatic TherapyMyo-Tone
... Myo-Tone provides a well-balanced ratio of vitamins and minerals that
must be present
in the diet for collagen functions which affect the ligaments, tendons ...
www.suzannes.com/allnatstrenp.html - 36k - Cached - Similar pages

Myo-Tone, Enzymatic Therapy, 80 tabs
Label Information:  Myo-Tone, Enzymatic Therapy, 80 Tablets Dietary
supplement
to maintain the integrity of ligaments, tendons, and muscles* ...
www.iherb.com/myotone.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

Herbs and herbal medicines for diseases treatment.
... Myo-Tone. Enzymatic Therapy. Size/Type, 80 Tabs. ... Myo-ToneT provides
a well-balanced
combination of vitamins and minerals in a base of other natural factors. ...
www.herbaladvisor.com/shop/xq/asp/ ptid.12928/qx/productDetail.htm - 60k -
Cached - Similar pages












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Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-08 Thread sol
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.Trem,
  I could have, and may, down the road opt for orthotics, but the $$ is a big 
issue and I have about 6 friends and aquaintances who spent the hundreds on 
orthotics that didn't help at all but   the $45 birkenstock blue did. Not to 
say you are wrong, maybe we don't have access to properly made orthotics here, 
but I just couldn't afford to take the chance. I also don't have quite as good 
results as you :-( but good enough for now. I sympathize, I have also never 
been able to have comfortable shoes, so would go barefoot, or wear slide on 
slippers, flip flops, etc. My barefoot days are over, that's for sure.
  I've had the cortisone for other tendon problems in other joints, once with 
excellent results, once with poor very short term results to show for the pain 
of it. Can't face it again, and don't want the stuff in my body anyway, now 
that I know moreit is amazing how much ones mental and emotional health 
improves when feet don't hurt!
  In my case, tendon problems have gone from one part of my body to the other 
for years. The feet are merely the latest outbreak that started early this 
year. I believe the tendon problems that have plagued me  for many years now 
and that have gone through one joint after the other are all related to my 
intestinal problems. Candida is a strong suspect and I'm hopeful the CS will 
help a lot.
paula
--


I might add that even better arch supports are orthotics.   After finally 
getting the orthotics 10 or 12 years ago (maybe even longer) the pain went away 
almost instantly and I now go for 2 mile walks on logging roads a few times 
each week and can go shopping again with no discomfort.  

  It requires going to a podiatrist and paying for him to make a mold of your 
foot and then having a lab make the fiberglass shoe insert.  In my case it was 
a couple of hundred bucks and it has been the best investment in my health in 
all my life.  I have 2 pairs now and put them into every shoe, boot,and slipper 
I use.  I wouldn't put a shoe on without inserting them.  

  My pain was so bad that the doctor had to shoot me in the heel fascia with 
cortisone initially to relieve the pain before I could even get to wear them.  
Once I was able to get into them it was all downhill from there.  Bucks well 
spent!

  What a relief.  And to think I spent over 50 years with aching feet trying 
toil figure out what the problem was and how to solve it.

  Trem
- Original Message - 
From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.


Mary Lou,
  One of the reasons I am using CS is to try to get rid on intestinal 
candida. One of my current problems is plantar fasciitis.You are so right about 
arch supports.  I have gotten arch supports and wear them every minute I'm on 
my feet, even in the house in my slippers, bought specially so I could wear the 
supports in them. And of course good shoes also with extra arch supports. I'm 
not cured, but the difference is amazing. I can barely walk a step barefoot or 
without the supports. It did take me several months to get ones that worked, 
heel cups, gel insoles, other Dr. Scholl's type ones didn't work. The 
birkenstock blue ones have been lifesavers for me.
Don't most people read about meds they are Rx'd in the PDR or similar? Now 
that is some scary, yet they are too scared of CS to try it? Perhaps you are 
right and some people choose to keep their illnesses and pain. 
paula
--
Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi 
(cats)
mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com
http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Lou Borgert 
  .
  It is incredible how absolutely ingrained drugs are in the mind of 
people.  I also work with people as a volunteer helping them with their sciatic 
problem. 99% of the time a bad back and the sciatic are the cause of the 
falling arches, I show them why by using acupressure on the feet and tell them 
that they must get arch supports but no they would rather have the pain and 
pain it is.  


Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-08 Thread Tony Moody
Hullo Mary Lou,
Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a
site where I could get the info. 

I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I
have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is on
10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several homeopathic
Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn't
seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the
morning. 

Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS.

Thanks,
Tony

Mary Lou Borgert wrote:
 

 
 Paula,
 I  have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have
 prednizone (drug).
 I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is.
  I found  the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people
 but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2
 yrs.


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Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-07 Thread Mary Lou Borgert
on 11/6/02 8:59 AM, sol at pcar...@wyoming.com wrote:

The thing that I think makes me the saddest about this is that a trial of CS
absolutely can't hurt anything or cause any side effects whatsoever, If I am
reading all the info correctly. Well, except for the slight possiblilty of
argyria, which I gather is strictly a cosmetic problem and causes no health
effects at all?
It is like the 12 to 15 years I tried to get help from allopathic
physicians---you can see by their eyes and body language that they are not
listening..at this point, I am so sceptical of allopathic medicine that
I truly pity anyone who completely puts their life in its hands.
paula
--
Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi
(cats)
mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com
http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter

Paula,
I  have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have
prednizone (drug).
I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is.
I found  the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people
but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2
yrs.  I would not let my mom on this drug the doctor was upset because I
would not but he asked why and I told him he answered by saying that I was
right that the drug was responsible for killing 8 of his patients. I almost
fell over backward he than walked out and I heard him on the phone doubling
the prednizone, he looked at me and shrugged his shoulders, and said if they
don't know I am not going to tell them.
It is incredible how absolutely ingrained drugs are in the mind of people.
I also work with people as a volunteer helping them with their sciatic
problem. 99% of the time a bad back and the sciatic are the cause of the
falling arches, I show them why by using acupressure on the feet and tell
them that they must get arch supports but no they would rather have the pain
and pain it is.  I was a friend of a chiro. she quit her practice because of
her back I looked down at her tennis shoes and she was walking( almost) on
her fallen arches I told her to look in the mirror that her problem could
possibly be her feet but no she wanted the pain and that I was zilch(not a
professional and what would I know). she is now in constant pain and on
DRUGS when simple arch supports might have helped, she never even tried
them. 
I have gotten so many people out of their wheelchairs, walkers, canes by
making them get better shoes or arch supports, but most would rather suffer
the pain, as in c/s I no longer say anything to anyone for they just don't
get it. I am so glad for this group and have learned much.  THANKS ALL



Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-07 Thread sol
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.Mary Lou,
  One of the reasons I am using CS is to try to get rid on intestinal candida. 
One of my current problems is plantar fasciitis.You are so right about arch 
supports.  I have gotten arch supports and wear them every minute I'm on my 
feet, even in the house in my slippers, bought specially so I could wear the 
supports in them. And of course good shoes also with extra arch supports. I'm 
not cured, but the difference is amazing. I can barely walk a step barefoot or 
without the supports. It did take me several months to get ones that worked, 
heel cups, gel insoles, other Dr. Scholl's type ones didn't work. The 
birkenstock blue ones have been lifesavers for me.
Don't most people read about meds they are Rx'd in the PDR or similar? Now that 
is some scary, yet they are too scared of CS to try it? Perhaps you are right 
and some people choose to keep their illnesses and pain. 
paula
--
Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi (cats)
mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com
http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Lou Borgert 
  .
  It is incredible how absolutely ingrained drugs are in the mind of people.  I 
also work with people as a volunteer helping them with their sciatic problem. 
99% of the time a bad back and the sciatic are the cause of the falling arches, 
I show them why by using acupressure on the feet and tell them that they must 
get arch supports but no they would rather have the pain and pain it is.  


Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-07 Thread Trem
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.Hi,

I might add that even better arch supports are orthotics.  I was in heel pain 
for years and tried all of the items you mentioned and some others too.  I 
tried to find comfortable shoes all my life...even when I was a kid.  Nothing 
really relieved the burning pain.  When I went shopping with my wife I would 
walk on the carpeted area at the malls and when she wanted to stop in a mall 
store I would ask a clerk where's the men's sitting chair?.  After finally 
getting the orthotics 10 or 12 years ago (maybe even longer) the pain went away 
almost instantly and I now go for 2 mile walks on logging roads a few times 
each week and can go shopping again with no discomfort.  

It requires going to a podiatrist and paying for him to make a mold of your 
foot and then having a lab make the fiberglass shoe insert.  In my case it was 
a couple of hundred bucks and it has been the best investment in my health in 
all my life.  I have 2 pairs now and put them into every shoe, boot,and slipper 
I use.  I wouldn't put a shoe on without inserting them.  

My pain was so bad that the doctor had to shoot me in the heel fascia with 
cortisone initially to relieve the pain before I could even get to wear them.  
Once I was able to get into them it was all downhill from there.  Bucks well 
spent!

What a relief.  And to think I spent over 50 years with aching feet trying toil 
figure out what the problem was and how to solve it.

Trem
  - Original Message - 
  From: sol 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:39 PM
  Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.


  Mary Lou,
One of the reasons I am using CS is to try to get rid on intestinal 
candida. One of my current problems is plantar fasciitis.You are so right about 
arch supports.  I have gotten arch supports and wear them every minute I'm on 
my feet, even in the house in my slippers, bought specially so I could wear the 
supports in them. And of course good shoes also with extra arch supports. I'm 
not cured, but the difference is amazing. I can barely walk a step barefoot or 
without the supports. It did take me several months to get ones that worked, 
heel cups, gel insoles, other Dr. Scholl's type ones didn't work. The 
birkenstock blue ones have been lifesavers for me.
  Don't most people read about meds they are Rx'd in the PDR or similar? Now 
that is some scary, yet they are too scared of CS to try it? Perhaps you are 
right and some people choose to keep their illnesses and pain. 
  paula
  --
  Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi 
(cats)
  mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com
  http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Lou Borgert 
.
It is incredible how absolutely ingrained drugs are in the mind of people.  
I also work with people as a volunteer helping them with their sciatic problem. 
99% of the time a bad back and the sciatic are the cause of the falling arches, 
I show them why by using acupressure on the feet and tell them that they must 
get arch supports but no they would rather have the pain and pain it is.  


Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-06 Thread sol
The thing that I think makes me the saddest about this is that a trial of CS 
absolutely can't hurt anything or cause any side effects whatsoever, If I am 
reading all the info correctly. Well, except for the slight possiblilty of 
argyria, which I gather is strictly a cosmetic problem and causes no health 
effects at all?
It is like the 12 to 15 years I tried to get help from allopathic 
physicians---you can see by their eyes and body language that they are not 
listening..at this point, I am so sceptical of allopathic medicine that I 
truly pity anyone who completely puts their life in its hands.
paula
--
Dinsdale and Julius Groucho, Bailey and Thumper (bunnies); Spati and Ripi (cats)
mailto: pcar...@wyoming.com
http://community.webshots.com/user/polcarter


CSCS and refusal to use it.

2002-11-05 Thread Trem
Hi Brooks,

I know exactly how you feel.  My mother in law has been in and out of the 
hospital for many years with ongoing Crohns problems.  A couple of years ago 
she got MRSA (Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus) in the hospital.  
They worked on her for a long time giving her Vancomycin as the final shot at 
getting rid of it.  We offered to provide CS to her so she could try it instead 
of antibiotics (or even in conjunction).  She hemmed and hawed and made 
excuses.  We even sent her one of our automatic generators so she could easily 
make it.  Guess what...she never used the machine and so we asked her other 
daughter who lives nearby to make it for her so she wouldn't have to do it 
herself.  Still, she didn't use it.  Said she'd think on it.

Well, they did eventually clear her up with Vancomycin.  Recently she had to go 
back in the hospital again and sure enough she got staph again.  This time it 
was VRSA (Vancomycin Resistant Staph) and there's no bigger gun than Vancomycin.

We offered to ship CS to her so she could take it without having to lift a 
finger.  Once again she paid lip service but never did take it.  Now she is so 
deathly ill my wife has gone back east to be with her, expecting the end is 
near.  We all know what the outcome will be.

So, the old adage really is trueyou can lead a horse to the water but you 
sure can't make him drink it.  We tried for several years to get her to use it 
to no avail.  How frustrating a situation it's been for us because we would 
tell her of the miraculous recoveries our customers had and she would say 
that's nice and continue on not accepting our help.  And if anyone could tell 
her a litany of anecdotal recoveries it was us.  

So, don't feel bad.  Your brother is another one who believes the allopathic 
path is best and the rest is voodoo.  You did your best.so did we.

My best regards sir,

Trem



Subject: Re: CSRe: CS reaction with stainless steel valve in heart


  Dear Marshall, 
  Excellent observation.  We have determined that CS will, 
in fact, plate out in similar circumstances as stated in this situation.  If CS 
plating had been used in past installations of such devices, the mortality rate 
from opportunistic pathogenic agents, probably, would have been much lower. 
  My only brother (78 yro overweight diabetic) nicked 
himself with a fish-hook about 3 months ago.  Within 15 days he experienced a 
severe cardiac episodewhich the alleopathic attendants surmised to be a 
stroke.  However, it took them 5 days to determine there was an infected heart 
valve causing the increasing insufficiency (this after a precipitous decline in 
his condition).  Eight weeks later plus $245,000 in expense. he was taken 
home.unable to rise or stand.  His complete recovery is problematical. 
  This gentleman has placed his faith and 
destiny---unflinchingly---in the hands of the alleopathic community.  Needless 
to say, one can imagine how stressful this has been on me..when we have 
documented evidence (reams of it) exhibiting the efficacy of ancillary 
adjunctive protocols which are both non-invasive and non-toxic--and 
NON-REACTIVE with the alleopathic agents involved..which could have served 
to mediate quite effectivelyin his case.  Sam (my brother) is a dedicated 
searcher for the Silver Bullet..but only if cast by the Alleopathic Gods. 
  This case serves to increase my sadness relative to 
the general circumstance of systemic cultural conditioning aimed a 
maintaining an, almost, religious zeal among the target population. 
  Do forgive the intensity of this diatribe...it is 
just a reflection of my heart-sickness relative to the entire circumstance. 
  Sincerely,  Brooks.