Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-03-01 Thread Ode Coyote



  Excellent.  Experience speaks well in the absence of knowing.

Ode


At 01:15 PM 2/28/2010 -0800, you wrote:
The CS I injected was filtered through a fine screen, and was clear to the 
naked eye.  It was made with distilled water.  An injection of 20-30 cc at 
one time was never any problem, other than to the lyme critters.


Dick



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From: polo dah...@centurytel.net
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Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 2:23:46 PM
Subject: Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

I have one of your CS machines and it seems to produce particulate matter 
floating around. Not sure why and I don't think it is any thing bad or 
serious from an oral standpoint, but I would not want to inject these 
particulates into my bloodstream even if there are larger natural 
particles in the blood stream. I  think a filter is a good idea. Oh, I use 
pure high quality distilled water and still get this stuff forming.


No, I am not very worried about not injecting a physiological saline 
solution at all.  There are far worse things to inject than straight water.


doug


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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-03-01 Thread Ode Coyote



  The bigguns settle out by definition of colloid better than *almost* any 
filter you can buy.
  If you shake it up then inject it, yer an idjit. [that might get away 
with it]
 Far worse doesn't answer the question of how bad straight water might 
be or what to do about it.


 So close your eyes and dive, that rock is far worse than the log you 
*might* miss...but at least you'll be using your head for something.
[Sorry if that came across as being a bit snide..no wait, I don't worry 
about snide, be as snide as you like.  I seem to like it a lot today, so 
duck and shoot back. ]


BTW  There is no such thing as pure water in an impure environment and I 
doubt there is or ever was a pure environment anywhere on Earth.
If it was pure, we couldn't live in it.  We require variety and water, a 
solvent, soaks it up like a dry sponge...the more pure it is, the dryer the 
sponge.


The same jug of water will not be the same tomorrow.
How different depends on many factors, most beyond control and the rest 
only by degree.


Ode [being a pure snippy curmudgeon this morning...by definition not 
sorry till tomorrow when I'm not the same in the same jug. LOL ]


At 01:23 PM 2/28/2010 -0600, you wrote:
I have one of your CS machines and it seems to produce particulate matter 
floating around. Not sure why and I don't think it is any thing bad or 
serious from an oral standpoint, but I would not want to inject these 
particulates into my bloodstream even if there are larger natural 
particles in the blood stream. I  think a filter is a good idea. Oh, I use 
pure high quality distilled water and still get this stuff forming.


No, I am not very worried about not injecting a physiological saline 
solution at all.  There are far worse things to inject than straight water.


doug


- Original Message -



  If your silver water has live bacteria in it, all is pointless.

The blood has much larger particles in it than .22 microns [ up to 15 
microns?]


I think a 10 micron particle will settle out of CSW [EIS]...probably
anything over about 1-3 microns.

I'd be more concerned about what injecting distilled water does...like,
localized dilution of saline balances...what's the tolerable range for that?

Ode



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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-03-01 Thread polo

Ode,

   Yes, you are unquestionably snide and snippy this morning as you suggest 
in your own post. I think you are just as much an idjit for being so 
nonchalant about how you process an IV solution as you do me. Are you 
familiar with the  millipore type of syringe filters? Apparently not if you 
make the idjit comment that settling out is better than any filter you can 
buy. You also do not have to purposefully shake a vial for particulates to 
be sent back into solution. One needs to get them out of the vial to prevent 
accidental redistribution.


   So you are resorting to picky linguistics when you criticize my use of 
pure.  Hehee, give me a break--that doesn't even deserve a response. . I 
have injected non-physiological water based iv solutions with absolutely no 
problems whatsoever, actually my solutions proved very beneficial.  I 
generally admire your posts, but I am starting to have 2nd thoughts, but  I 
still like your machine's design.



doug



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Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling





  The bigguns settle out by definition of colloid better than *almost* any
filter you can buy.
  If you shake it up then inject it, yer an idjit. [that might get away
with it]
 Far worse doesn't answer the question of how bad straight water might
be or what to do about it.

 So close your eyes and dive, that rock is far worse than the log you
*might* miss...but at least you'll be using your head for something.
[Sorry if that came across as being a bit snide..no wait, I don't worry
about snide, be as snide as you like.  I seem to like it a lot today, so
duck and shoot back. ]

BTW  There is no such thing as pure water in an impure environment and I
doubt there is or ever was a pure environment anywhere on Earth.
If it was pure, we couldn't live in it.  We require variety and water, a
solvent, soaks it up like a dry sponge...the more pure it is, the dryer 
the

sponge.

The same jug of water will not be the same tomorrow.
How different depends on many factors, most beyond control and the rest
only by degree.

Ode [being a pure snippy curmudgeon this morning...by definition not
sorry till tomorrow when I'm not the same in the same jug. LOL ]



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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-02-28 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Yeah -- but Gayla -- that 60 cc syringe and 26 gauge needle ain't gonna work 
for kittens or puppies!!  lol  Any of these products can be ordered through 
catalogs, and no signature necessary.
MA





From: Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 12:26:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

You can buy syringes and needles at many farm supply stores. You may have to 
sign for them, but tell them they are for kittens or puppies. I buy syringes 
for livestock from 1 cc to 60 cc and needles from 14 gauge to 26 gauge.
Gayla 

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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-02-28 Thread Ode Coyote



  If your silver water has live bacteria in it, all is pointless.

The blood has much larger particles in it than .22 microns [ up to 15 microns?]

I think a 10 micron particle will settle out of CSW [EIS]...probably 
anything over about 1-3 microns.


I'd be more concerned about what injecting distilled water does...like, 
localized dilution of saline balances...what's the tolerable range for that?


Ode



At 10:23 AM 2/27/2010 -0600, you wrote:
New sterile syringes and needles can easily be had from online 
pet/livestock/vet supply houses.


Many states, you can buy them at feed stores and other livestock/farm 
supply houses like Orsclens.


If you make up your own stuff, one good safe guard is to run all solutions 
through syringe type micro filters at a .22 micron filter to remove 
particulates and bacteria. Asceptic condtions should be religously thrived for!


doug

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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-02-28 Thread polo
I have one of your CS machines and it seems to produce particulate matter 
floating around. Not sure why and I don't think it is any thing bad or 
serious from an oral standpoint, but I would not want to inject these 
particulates into my bloodstream even if there are larger natural particles 
in the blood stream. I  think a filter is a good idea. Oh, I use pure high 
quality distilled water and still get this stuff forming.


No, I am not very worried about not injecting a physiological saline 
solution at all.  There are far worse things to inject than straight water.


doug


- Original Message - 




  If your silver water has live bacteria in it, all is pointless.

The blood has much larger particles in it than .22 microns [ up to 15 
microns?]


I think a 10 micron particle will settle out of CSW [EIS]...probably
anything over about 1-3 microns.

I'd be more concerned about what injecting distilled water does...like,
localized dilution of saline balances...what's the tolerable range for 
that?


Ode



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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-02-28 Thread Richard Goodwin
The CS I injected was filtered through a fine screen, and was clear to the 
naked eye.  It was made with distilled water.  An injection of 20-30 cc at one 
time was never any problem, other than to the lyme critters.

Dick



- Original Message 
From: polo dah...@centurytel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 2:23:46 PM
Subject: Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

I have one of your CS machines and it seems to produce particulate matter 
floating around. Not sure why and I don't think it is any thing bad or serious 
from an oral standpoint, but I would not want to inject these particulates into 
my bloodstream even if there are larger natural particles in the blood stream. 
I  think a filter is a good idea. Oh, I use pure high quality distilled water 
and still get this stuff forming.

No, I am not very worried about not injecting a physiological saline solution 
at all.  There are far worse things to inject than straight water.

doug


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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-02-27 Thread Ode Coyote

At 10:42 AM 2/26/2010 -0500, you wrote:
Do you go to a doctor for an injection or do you mangage to get some 
syringes somehow? Â and where is it best to inject.


##  You do some studying on IV drip or find someone that knows.
If a junkie can get a syringe, so can you and if you can get or make 
a  needle, you can rig up a bag.
It's doubtful you'll find a doctor that will help youhe has to defend 
his license.




and for inhaling, is a couple of sprays up each nostril sufficient?


##   Use your head, study the nature of the conditions and elements and 
experiment.
A sniffer in the nose won't likely even reach the lungs...try it and you'll 
know why.



and how often do you apply is topiically and do you cover by a bandaid? Â 
Do you saturate a regular bandaid or buy specially made CS ones.


##  The closer and longer the contact, the better it works.
 Dry CS does nothing much.
 Act accordingly.
 A silver bandaid such as Curad Silver makes CS on site using aluminum 
and silver fabrics as a silver ion generator with battery effect




Thanks, Ode

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Ode Coyote 
mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netodecoy...@windstream.net wrote:



 Inhalation is the next best thing to injection...but no path is the 
wrong one [ use em all? ]


Ode




At 06:09 PM 2/17/2010 -0500, you wrote:
Well, John, this specific question applies to taking it orally to boost my 
immune system and hopefully help in my recovery from Lyme Disease.


Susan, thank you so much for your suggestions. Ā


do you both make your own?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Rainie Cole 
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wrote:

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thanks so much.

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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-02-27 Thread polo
New sterile syringes and needles can easily be had from online 
pet/livestock/vet supply houses.


Many states, you can buy them at feed stores and other livestock/farm supply 
houses like Orsclens.


If you make up your own stuff, one good safe guard is to run all solutions 
through syringe type micro filters at a .22 micron filter to remove 
particulates and bacteria. Asceptic condtions should be religously thrived 
for!


doug 



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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-02-27 Thread Gayla Roberts
You can buy syringes and needles at many farm supply stores. You may have to 
sign for them, but tell them they are for kittens or puppies. I buy syringes 
for livestock from 1 cc to 60 cc and needles from 14 gauge to 26 gauge.
Gayla 



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CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-02-26 Thread Rainie Cole
Do you go to a doctor for an injection or do you mangage to get some
syringes somehow?  and where is it best to inject.

and for inhaling, is a couple of sprays up each nostril sufficient?

and how often do you apply is topiically and do you cover by a bandaid?  Do
you saturate a regular bandaid or buy specially made CS ones.

Thanks, Ode

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote:



  Inhalation is the next best thing to injection...but no path is the wrong
 one [ use em all? ]

 Ode




 At 06:09 PM 2/17/2010 -0500, you wrote:

 Well, John, this specific question applies to taking it orally to boost my
 immune system and hopefully help in my recovery from Lyme Disease.

 Susan, thank you so much for your suggestions. Ā


 do you both make your own?

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Rainie Cole mailto:raini...@gmail.com
 raini...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know this is a basic question, but how is it best to take silver?

 thanks so much.

 --
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Re: CSInjections syringes inhaling

2010-02-26 Thread Richard Goodwin
My wife and I were injected by someone, and we also saved the syringes.  Same 
place they draw blood from generally: the big vein where your arm bends.  But 
anywhere it goes in works.  He had syringes in the beginning, then bags you can 
hang up and drip in.  Either way works.  We each took about 20-30 cc each time, 
say every couple of weeks.  And we drank it daily in between.  We were under 
the guidance of a guy who almost died from lyme before he cured himself with 
silver, so he knew what would work.  He has cured many many others too.

Dick





From: Rainie Cole raini...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 10:42:57 AM
Subject: CSInjections syringes inhaling

Do you go to a doctor for an injection or do you mangage to get some syringes 
somehow?  and where is it best to inject.

and for inhaling, is a couple of sprays up each nostril sufficient?

and how often do you apply is topiically and do you cover by a bandaid?  Do you 
saturate a regular bandaid or buy specially made CS ones.

Thanks, Ode


On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:



 Inhalation is the next best thing to injection...but no path is the wrong 
 one [ use em all? ]

Ode




At 06:09 PM 2/17/2010 -0500, you wrote:

Well, John, this specific question applies to taking it orally to boost my 
immune system and hopefully help in my recovery from Lyme Disease.


Susan, thank you so much for your suggestions. Ā


do you both make your own?


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Rainie Cole 
mailto:raini...@gmail.comraini...@gmail.com wrote:

I know this is a basic question, but how is it best to take silver?

thanks so much.

--
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