subject:"CSOzone"

Re: CSozone generators/ oxygen supply source

2007-08-28 Thread Ode Coyote

At 06:50 AM 8/27/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Ode,
The main difference is in the very controlled environment levels or
delivery system that the med grade generators produce. The generators
are so regulated that they cannot exceed or reach the dangerous levels
considered to suppress the immune system. The major difference is in
the equipment and not the feed or source of oxygen needed to produce the
ozone which is then introduced directly into a living
environment...namely, the body. After all, are we not little sub eco
systems which if not montitored can become unbalanced.

## Well, yea, but equipment is just machinery and machinery can be
adjusted to do what you want it to.

Is not knowing something worth $2200?
I suppose to some, it is.
It takes me a while to earn that much, generally less time than it takes
to learn how not to spend it.

A penny saved is 1.3 cents earned. [or more ]
What can I say, I built myself a NEW car out of an abused junker for $1800
total, in a week. [Better than new in some ways ]

It was drivers ignorance that killed it in the first place.

Thus the use of welders oxygen vs medical oxygen grade...which as you
correctly stated is marginal and probably profit driven. Besides, we
can't have to many people on oxygen, or oxygenatedor can we?

## Excuse to buy Oxygen tanks? It's the other half of my propane cutting
torch.
Not so much profit driven as *fear* driven... costs lots of cash to pay
others to allay your fears with certifications that you aren't breathing
some contaminant that's even more present in every *other* breath you take.
I mean, people get real edgy about second hand smoke in open air spaces,
then take a bus to town where the same emissions are present, times 100.

Ode

Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hello Ode,

Well, it looks like Charles already answered your
question.

As far as getting oxygen from a welders' supply place,
that is very often suggested on the Oxyplus list.
Even have a handy line if questioned as to what you
need it for. All you have to say is you need it for
your hot tub or acquarium. That is very often how
ozone users get their oxygen tanks filled all the
time. Nothing new.

An air fed generator is never recommended for
insufflating, injecting, saunaing (is that even a
word?) or IV use. It's just not because of the
nitrogen oxide factor with the air fed generators.
That's just the way it is.

Recently some of the posts were talking about an
overload of toxins relating to various illnesses. We
were talking about cfids, fibromyalgia, lymes, but
I'm sure the same principle applies to other illneses.
Ozone therapy simply helps the body to unload the
toxins, thus allowing the immune system to be able to
then heal itself.

The body is an awesome creation. And when functioning
as it was created to, the immune system is what heals.
However, when our immunse system is not functioning
as it should, healing doesn't happen.

All althernative protocols follow this same line of
thinking, be it the Beck protocol, fasting, cleansing,
ozone, riffling, whatever. It's all about removing
the toxic buildup allowing the immune system to do
the work it was created to do, while supporting it
with proper nutritional support. Oh, sure there are a
whole lot of ways to deliver the message, but it's
really all the same when you get right down to it.
Ozone is a very viable tool used to help with that.

Study up on the subject a little more, and you might
find it worth the big bucks. It is pricey for sure,
but it also last a lifetime. At least the plasmafire
one is guaranteed for a lifetime, which is something
one might want to consider, if interested in looking
into it.

Gail

=== message truncated === Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007
12:05:56 -0400
From: Ode Coyote

So, tell me, what's the difference in medical ozone
and any other ozone?

Get Oxygen from a welders supply,

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Re: CSozone generators/ oxygen supply source

2007-08-27 Thread Carol Ann

Ode,
 The main difference is in the very controlled environment levels or delivery 
system that the med grade generators produce. The generators are so 
regulated that they cannot exceed or reach the dangerous levels considered to 
suppress the immune system.   The major difference is in the equipment and not 
the feed or source of oxygen needed to produce the ozone which is then 
introduced directly into a living environment...namely, the body.  After all, 
are we not little sub eco systems which if not montitored can become 
unbalanced. 

Thus the use of welders oxygen vs medical oxygen grade...which as you correctly 
stated is marginal and probably profit driven.  Besides, we can't have to 
many people on oxygen, or oxygenatedor can we? 
. 

Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Ode,

Well, it looks like Charles already answered your
question.

As far as getting oxygen from a welders' supply place,
that is very often suggested on the Oxyplus list. 
Even have a handy line if questioned as to what you
need it for.  All you have to say is you need it for
your hot tub or acquarium.  That is very often how
ozone users get their oxygen tanks filled all the
time.  Nothing new.  

An air fed generator is never recommended for
insufflating, injecting, saunaing (is that even a
word?) or IV use.  It's just not because of the
nitrogen oxide factor with the air fed generators. 
That's just the way it is.

Recently some of the posts were talking about an
overload of toxins relating to various illnesses.  We
were talking about cfids, fibromyalgia,  lymes, but
I'm sure the same principle applies to other illneses.
 Ozone therapy simply helps the body to unload the
toxins, thus allowing the immune system to be able to
then heal itself.  

The body is an awesome creation.  And when functioning
as it was created to, the immune system is what heals.
 However, when our immunse system is not functioning
as it should, healing doesn't happen. 

All althernative protocols follow this same line of
thinking, be it the Beck protocol, fasting, cleansing,
ozone, riffling, whatever.  It's all about removing
the toxic buildup  allowing the immune system to do
the work it was created to do, while supporting it
with proper nutritional support.  Oh, sure there are a
whole lot of ways to deliver the message, but it's
really all the same when you get right down to it. 
Ozone is a very viable tool used to help with that.  

Study up on the subject a little more, and you might
find it worth the big bucks.  It is pricey for sure,
but it also last a lifetime.  At least the plasmafire
one is guaranteed for a lifetime, which is something
one might want to consider, if interested in looking
into it.

Gail
 
=== message truncated === Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007
12:05:56 -0400
 From: Ode Coyote 

 So, tell me,  what's the difference in medical ozone
 and any other ozone? 
 
Get Oxygen from a welders supply,



   

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CSozone generators/ oxygen supply source

2007-08-26 Thread Gail Naranjo

Hello Ode,

Well, it looks like Charles already answered your
question.

As far as getting oxygen from a welders' supply place,
that is very often suggested on the Oxyplus list. 
Even have a handy line if questioned as to what you
need it for.  All you have to say is you need it for
your hot tub or acquarium.  That is very often how
ozone users get their oxygen tanks filled all the
time.  Nothing new.  

An air fed generator is never recommended for
insufflating, injecting, saunaing (is that even a
word?) or IV use.  It's just not because of the
nitrogen oxide factor with the air fed generators. 
That's just the way it is.

Recently some of the posts were talking about an
overload of toxins relating to various illnesses.  We
were talking about cfids, fibromyalgia,  lymes, but
I'm sure the same principle applies to other illneses.
 Ozone therapy simply helps the body to unload the
toxins, thus allowing the immune system to be able to
then heal itself.  

The body is an awesome creation.  And when functioning
as it was created to, the immune system is what heals.
 However, when our immunse system is not functioning
as it should, healing doesn't happen. 

All althernative protocols follow this same line of
thinking, be it the Beck protocol, fasting, cleansing,
ozone, riffling, whatever.  It's all about removing
the toxic buildup  allowing the immune system to do
the work it was created to do, while supporting it
with proper nutritional support.  Oh, sure there are a
whole lot of ways to deliver the message, but it's
really all the same when you get right down to it. 
Ozone is a very viable tool used to help with that.  

Study up on the subject a little more, and you might
find it worth the big bucks.  It is pricey for sure,
but it also last a lifetime.  At least the plasmafire
one is guaranteed for a lifetime, which is something
one might want to consider, if interested in looking
into it.

Gail
 
=== message truncated === Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007
12:05:56 -0400
 From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net

 So, tell me,  what's the difference in medical ozone
 and any other ozone? snip
 
Get Oxygen from a welders supply,



   

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Re: CSozone generators

2007-08-25 Thread Ode Coyote



  You need medical grade oxygen too, except there's no difference but the 
price between that and welders oxygen.

So, tell me,  what's the difference in medical ozone and any other ozone?

When is O3 in water not O3 in water?
When is O3 in the air not O3 in the air?
If you don't want the Nitric Acid made when running ANY Ozone generator in 
air, use pure Oxygen.

 Does the pricey device that makes the same thing even mention Nitric Acid?
 Get Oxygen from a welders supply, it comes out of the same hole and goes 
into different bottles, one with a very expensive tag on it and [I think] 
white paint?? rather than green...bottles made at the same factory on the 
same equipment.


If you need a certain concentration of the same danged thing, learn how to 
dilute or increase/decrease feed rates.


Camp stove fuel, lighter fluid, OOPS adhesive remover and Naptha...all 
the exact same thing, different packages and prices.
Paint thinner, mineral spirits and Varsol by the 55 gallon drum or tanker 
full bought at a gas pump...all the same thing.
Acetone by the gallon and an ounce of fingernail polish remover...same 
thing,  far different quantity for the money and maybe some perfume added.
 Diesel fuel and #2 heating oil, same hole at the terminal, same tanker 
truck delivering it, different destinations and tax rates.


 Why does a Hospital buy $100,000 cardio machines...why do electronics 
engineers buy fancy $6,000 Oscilloscopes... when a $500 laptop can do the 
same thing? ..in many cases, better.



The world is full of nonsense packaging to sell, that's why.
Traditions and perceptions, for sale. Pay up.
So, you pay $3 for a card board box to throw out instead of 10 cents worth 
of corn flakes in a clean jar you fished out of the garbage.
But your stomach doesn't see any difference at all...because there just 
isn't any.


People will buy a $30,000 self winding Rolex, but a $3 digital stick on 
clock keeps more accurate time.

 A minute is a minute, regardless.
O3 is O3
How many people will try and sell you smaller silver ions ???
Smaller than what?  The very definition of Themselves?  Not Hardly.

Oh golly!  It's Tesla Tech ..must be something special!
Maybe it was, 100 years ago, but a LOT of what Tesla diddidn't work 
well at all...if AT all.

and a lot of what did work has been FAR surpassed.
Inverter power technology has just about made the average advanced 
engineered transformer coil system obsolete, never mind bulky inefficient 
Tesla Coils that would once fill up a garden shed.

Flint knives cut things.  They can be very very sharp.  Used one lately?
 Stainless steel has become far better than it once was. I hardly ever see 
a carbon steel knife anymore.


ode


At 10:23 AM 8/24/2007 -0700, you wrote:


Ode said:

Look into personal health swimming pool and hot tub
water ozonators..around $50-$80.

For insufflating (which Charles was recommending) you
need a medical generator, thus the big bucks.

For simply ozonating water you don't.

gail




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CSozone generators

2007-08-24 Thread Gail Naranjo

Ode said:

Look into personal health swimming pool and hot tub
water ozonators..around $50-$80.

For insufflating (which Charles was recommending) you
need a medical generator, thus the big bucks.  

For simply ozonating water you don't.

gail


   

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