CSspider bites and elec.

2003-10-24 Thread Shirley Reed
  From what I have read I gather that the  electricity changes some 
proteins involved in the bite and neutralizes toxins.  I won't work for some 
bites as some of the poisons are nerve poisons and others affect other systems. 
 Don't recall just which ones are which re electricity.  But the info is out 
there.  As you can tell, my understanding is fuzzier now than when I first read 
about it, but maybe the general outline is ok.  Hope one of you more 
knowledgeable ones will do an in-depth and let us know.   pj


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CSSpider Bites and CS

2002-09-11 Thread Annie Hall
From research I have seen into spider bites it clearly shows that the danger is
mostly from infection and that it is this which needs to be treated as quickly 
as
possible. Apparently spiders carry all sorts of infectious agents which are
transferred with the bite.

The research was done to find out why spiders did not have any negative effects 
from
all the bacteria, viruses, etc that they seem to carry around with them with the
veiw to finding sources of potential future antibiotics, etc. 

If this is in fact correct that the greatest danger with spider bites if from
infection, then CS topically should be very effective. I use iodine solution on
spider bites as well as ant bites and it works very well, (even when I was 
bitten by
a highly venomous spider).

However, there are some spiders whose bite is so dangerous you would probably 
want
to seek urgent medical attention in addition to putting CS on the bite site.

Cheers, Annie

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RE: CSSpider bites

2000-08-07 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I think it is unlikely that any of us will get a straight answer to the 
questions which beg to be asked of that writing. 

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-Original Message-
From:   Katie Jay [SMTP:kj...@erols.com]
Sent:   Monday, August 07, 2000 12:24 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSSpider bites

Hi Bob and all,

Your spider story is amazing. Glad the remedy worked!!

What do you (and the rest of you) make of this. I wrote to a woman on a lyme
support list and suggested CS. She replied that CS can sometimes stimulate
the growth of bacteria. Here's an excerpt of her note to me. What do you
think?

With love,
Katie

Here's what the woman wrote:
I learned of a Texas pathologist Ph.D. with high powered microscope, and his
correlation of M.S wih a spirochete like organism and patients with the
bacteria in certain quantity above 400 always had M.S. symptoms.  There is
absolutley proof the NMSS is covering up the real cause  of M.S. and NCS of
cancer  Some are truly ignorant and others damn  greedy lyers
My. M.S. bacteria (1997)was first 387.  I made. C.S. water and in 9 months
it (bacteria) TRIPLED.




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Re: CSSpider bites

2000-08-07 Thread Gaston
Hi Bob,

I completely agree with about your proposition regarding
standarding the CS that we make.
We should all reconsider working together in putting together
some standards to produce good CS to help new and existing
listers.

Gaston
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- Original Message -
From: Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: CSSpider bites


 Katie;

 You say that you made CS water. How do you know what you had in the way of
ppm
 or particle size.  Just making CS with a couple of silver wires is a
great
 unknown.

 What the members of list list fail to realize is that the T.E. is more
important
 than they realize. The reflection of the laser beam can only happen when
the
 particle size is equal to or greater than the wavelength of the IR beam
which is
 generally 680 nm.

 So the stronger the beam the less bioavailability there is in the CS. A
very
 good CS would be about 10 ppm with almost no T.E. visible.

 When I proposed standardizing the CS manufacture over a year ago there
were
 several members that ridiculed the idea.
 As a result most listees have no idea as to what they are making. No
wonder the
 medical authorities laugh at us.

 Ole Bob


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Re: CSSpider bites

2000-08-07 Thread Robert L. Berger
Katie;

You say that you made CS water. How do you know what you had in the way of ppm
or particle size.  Just making CS with a couple of silver wires is a great
unknown.

What the members of list list fail to realize is that the T.E. is more important
than they realize. The reflection of the laser beam can only happen when the
particle size is equal to or greater than the wavelength of the IR beam which is
generally 680 nm.

So the stronger the beam the less bioavailability there is in the CS. A very
good CS would be about 10 ppm with almost no T.E. visible.

When I proposed standardizing the CS manufacture over a year ago there were
several members that ridiculed the idea.
As a result most listees have no idea as to what they are making. No wonder the
medical authorities laugh at us.

Ole Bob


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Re: CSSpider bites

2000-08-07 Thread CKing001
I don't recall ridicule, merely a lack of interest.
Methinks someone seeks martyrdom.
Chuck

Veteran of the Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force 1990-1951!

On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 08:00:16 -0500, Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net
wrote:

When I proposed standardizing the CS manufacture over a year ago there were
several members that ridiculed the idea.
As a result most listees have no idea as to what they are making. No wonder the
medical authorities laugh at us.

Ole Bob


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CSSpider bites

2000-08-06 Thread Bob Squires

Dear ones;

Friday night my wife was bitten by a brown
recluse and being 80 years old we was some concerned as she could feel
the effects . She took the Zapper and put one probe directly on the bite
already swelling after just a few minutes and beginning to throb . The
other probe she held in her hand on the same arm. At once the pain was
gone and the reaction stopped . the next morning all that was left was a
small red area . We sprayed it with CS the next morning and that was the
end of it . If we had taken her to the hospital how much more than the
nothing this treatment  cost. Would it have it had cost. No doctor would
have done what these two little machines were capable of ,and right now.

Be Well
Bob



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RE: CSSpider bites

2000-08-06 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Bob,

Was the spider killed or caught?  If so, who identified it? 

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-Original Message-
From:   Bob Squires [SMTP:rj...@dialnet.net]
Sent:   Sunday, August 06, 2000 6:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:CSSpider bites


Dear ones;

Friday night my wife was bitten by a brown
recluse and being 80 years old we was some concerned as she could feel
the effects . She took the Zapper and put one probe directly on the bite
already swelling after just a few minutes and beginning to throb . The
other probe she held in her hand on the same arm. At once the pain was
gone and the reaction stopped . the next morning all that was left was a
small red area . We sprayed it with CS the next morning and that was the
end of it . If we had taken her to the hospital how much more than the
nothing this treatment  cost. Would it have it had cost. No doctor would
have done what these two little machines were capable of ,and right now.

Be Well
Bob



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Re: CSSpider bites

2000-08-06 Thread Dean T. Miller
Here's what the woman wrote:
I learned of a Texas pathologist Ph.D. with high powered microscope, and his
correlation of M.S wih a spirochete like organism and patients with the
bacteria in certain quantity above 400 always had M.S. symptoms.  There is
absolutley proof the NMSS is covering up the real cause  of M.S. and NCS of
cancer  Some are truly ignorant and others damn  greedy lyers
My. M.S. bacteria (1997)was first 387.  I made. C.S. water and in 9 months
it (bacteria) TRIPLED.

He's a pathologist?  And he's guessing?  First step for a pathologist
is to isolate the organism and grow some of it (in an isolation
chamber).  Then try CS on it one batch and distilled water on another
batch (of course, specifying how the CS was made!).

I'm not a pathologist, but that's what I've done on less dangerous
pathogens.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn  (CDP, KB0ZDF)


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Re: CSSpider bites

2000-08-06 Thread Katie Jay
Hi Bob and all,

Your spider story is amazing. Glad the remedy worked!!

What do you (and the rest of you) make of this. I wrote to a woman on a lyme
support list and suggested CS. She replied that CS can sometimes stimulate
the growth of bacteria. Here's an excerpt of her note to me. What do you
think?

With love,
Katie

Here's what the woman wrote:
I learned of a Texas pathologist Ph.D. with high powered microscope, and his
correlation of M.S wih a spirochete like organism and patients with the
bacteria in certain quantity above 400 always had M.S. symptoms.  There is
absolutley proof the NMSS is covering up the real cause  of M.S. and NCS of
cancer  Some are truly ignorant and others damn  greedy lyers
My. M.S. bacteria (1997)was first 387.  I made. C.S. water and in 9 months
it (bacteria) TRIPLED.




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