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The K2 would is an electromagnetic field meter, it measures from 20 to 20,000 Hz. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: I have seen gauss meters, and there is a simple one in my multi meter. Does a K2 measure gauss, or hertz? My multimeter makes a cute little noise when it gets near the old knob and tube wiring, so you can tell there is a field that extends more than a foot. It does not have any regular reading for it though, just a noise. I have seen gauss meters that have a numerical readout. Kathryn On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Anyone sensitive to EMF radiation should invest in a K2 meter. Track down and fix or shield anything giving off high EMF. These meters are great for this, they aren't just used for ghost hunting. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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My boyfriend takes magnesium for restless leg and takes well over 800 mg, often double that. Brazil nuts are a very high food source. 4 to 8 nuts would equal 600 to 800 mg. Thora -Original Message- From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStrange question Hi Debbie, I've not seen an upper limit. But I haven't been looking for an upper limit because I feel that I'm chronically borderline deficient anyway. Mg seems to be the one thing that will haul me back from grumps, confusion and depression. I take a Ca+ Mg powder morning and evening and let them sort themselves out inside. Somewhere i read that it is better to take Ca in the late afternoon or early evening and to take Mg early in the morning. Then also read that Ca needs some Mg and that Mg needs a bit of Ca to be readily absorbed. You have had some wise replies. your running out of energy could come from anywhere. I used to get Sunday Sickness. I'd go like a Boeing, sorta, during the week and collapse over the weekend. Long afterwards figured that Sunday Sickness was probably due to relaxing: release of tension somehow released toxins which created a mini Herx; headache, nausea, lassitude. If only I'd known then to relax, drink more water etc Mg Dosage (min) is anyway tricky thing to establish exactly, because recommended dosage figures are usually in elemental Mg and the packages are in Magnesium Carbonate or whatever. ( I take guess that elemental Mg is about 1/2 of the actual compound ; unless it is stated. ) Also we need relatively more as we age. and absorbtion and requirements depend on other factors like Vit D consumption The RDA is 350mg per day. Krispin says 500mg per day as minimum. I googled magnesium safe dose and first hit was this site: http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html Recommended Dietary Allowance To compensate for deficiencies and/or losses the new RDA is expected to be 500 mg. per day. My Krispin-RDA is a total of 500-700 mg magnesium daily. Determination of optimal amounts must take into consideration both body size and activity level. Magnesium is a key component of the ATP cycle in the cell which produces all energy. Formula to Calculate Magnesium Daily Requirement- 5 to 10 milligrams per day per kilo of ideal body weight or 2.5 to 4.5 milligrams per day per pound of ideal body weight. Example: 70 kilos or 150 pounds= 350 mg. to 700 mg. daily. (Do not use these calculations for children. The requirements for children are calculated differently. Please consult with your health care professional for more information.) If one or more deficiency or loss factors are a consideration or you have any of the conditions associated with low magnesium use the higher number- you take diuretics, including potassium sparing diuretics you are an athlete in training you are diabetic you have hypertension you are post surgical you are under large amounts of stress you consume large amounts of carbohydrates you are repairing damaged tissue as in arthritis the weather is very hot, you perspire profusely you have any of the conditions listed above you are dieting with/without medications you are experiencing chronic pain you have heart disease you have high cholesterol or triglycerides hth, got to go, OK, Tony On 8 Nov 2009 at 7:00, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question does anyone know what the safe limit is for Mg? From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 12:20:56 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Hi Debbie, You could be running out of Mg (or something else) during the course of the shift. OK, tony On 6 Nov 2009 at 19:10, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone
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Anyone sensitive to EMF radiation should invest in a K2 meter. Track down and fix or shield anything giving off high EMF. These meters are great for this, they aren't just used for ghost hunting. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. If you did a test run with some kitchen foil to shield your head/neck area just to see if it would work, then it might be worth sinking the money/time into seeing if the fabric is available at something less than an exorbitant price. Or maybe an army/navy surplus would have something like it. Maybe you are tired of ideas now, but it seemed worth mentioning. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: When I go to the grocery store the lights are real high up in the ceiling and don't bother me...but at work the ceiling is an average height ceiling...I notice when we have to go to meetings downstairs, the lights are there also, by the end of the hour or so meeting my ears are beet red along with my neck. When I _use to_ dye my hair the same thing would happen. I use the silver daily to kill off anything going on inside me...and I am in and out of Hospitals, nursing homes and private homes. Being exposed even to the H1N1 and I am happy to say I am pretty healthy. As far as the heavy metals I take clay internally three or four time a week to help keep them at bay, thanks much, Debbie *From:* Diane Mackey dmacke...@comcast.net mailto:dmacke...@comcast.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sun, November 8, 2009 11:45:37 AM *Subject:* Re: CSStrange question Debbie, When I was in my teens, I worked at a grocery store and was sick after every shift. I never realized it was the lights until I changed jobs and it stopped happening, then went back to work in a department store and got sick with the same symptoms. When I would go shopping, I'd get sick again! Finally met a biochemist who told me that it was the fluorescent lights that were doing it. At the time, I thought it was weird. I still hate to go shopping because I don't feel well when done, and I'm a fast shopper! My friend, has three sons, two functioning autistic, all full grown. One 'hears' fluorescent lights and it drives him crazy. He also hears 'wiring' in the walls. The other is very sensitive to sunlight and gets hives and nausea. I'm not sure what the connection is, but my very wild guess is anyone who may have a lot of heavy metals or fungus in their bodies, might have a reaction from fluorescent lights for some reason. I would guess the same can be true from certain rays of the sun. Diane - Original Message - *From:* Clayton Family mailto:clay...@skypoint.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM *Subject:* Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have seen gauss meters, and there is a simple one in my multi meter. Does a K2 measure gauss, or hertz? My multimeter makes a cute little noise when it gets near the old knob and tube wiring, so you can tell there is a field that extends more than a foot. It does not have any regular reading for it though, just a noise. I have seen gauss meters that have a numerical readout. Kathryn On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Anyone sensitive to EMF radiation should invest in a K2 meter. Track down and fix or shield anything giving off high EMF. These meters are great for this, they aren't just used for ghost hunting. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Debbie, You could be running out of Mg (or something else) during the course of the shift. OK, tony On 6 Nov 2009 at 19:10, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I agree with the idea that fluorescent lights can cause health effects in sensitive people. And are known to be the least healthy light source for anyone. Here is a good page with a questionnaire that helps people identify a possible sensitivity. http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/related-conditions/electrical-sensitivity--hypersensitivity/ Even though you are taking a Mg supplement and using Mg Oil you could still be deficient in Mg. The trace mineral silicon is essential to Calcium and Magnesium absorption and utilization. Good sources are leafy greens and herbs like Nettles, Oat Straw and Horse tail. Also in onions, best when lightly cooked or raw. Chelated minerals, especially the orotate forms are better than non-chelated. If stress is increasing your cortisol levels during the day then your Mg levels could be dropping by the end of the day. You may be experiencing a combination effect of all of the above or some other physical condition may be contributing. Repetitive motion and posture while you are working may be part of how you feel at the end off the day. Also the level of electromagnetic exposures in the work place during the day is worth looking at. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie *From:* Garnet gar...@grandecom.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM *Subject:* Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Debbie, When I was in my teens, I worked at a grocery store and was sick after every shift. I never realized it was the lights until I changed jobs and it stopped happening, then went back to work in a department store and got sick with the same symptoms. When I would go shopping, I'd get sick again! Finally met a biochemist who told me that it was the fluorescent lights that were doing it. At the time, I thought it was weird. I still hate to go shopping because I don't feel well when done, and I'm a fast shopper! My friend, has three sons, two functioning autistic, all full grown. One 'hears' fluorescent lights and it drives him crazy. He also hears 'wiring' in the walls. The other is very sensitive to sunlight and gets hives and nausea. I'm not sure what the connection is, but my very wild guess is anyone who may have a lot of heavy metals or fungus in their bodies, might have a reaction from fluorescent lights for some reason. I would guess the same can be true from certain rays of the sun. Diane - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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When I go to the grocery store the lights are real high up in the ceiling and don't bother me...but at work the ceiling is an average height ceiling...I notice when we have to go to meetings downstairs, the lights are there also, by the end of the hour or so meeting my ears are beet red along with my neck. When I use to dye my hair the same thing would happen. I use the silver daily to kill off anything going on inside me...and I am in and out of Hospitals, nursing homes and private homes. Being exposed even to the H1N1 and I am happy to say I am pretty healthy. As far as the heavy metals I take clay internally three or four time a week to help keep them at bay, thanks much, Debbie From: Diane Mackey dmacke...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:45:37 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Debbie, When I was in my teens, I worked at a grocery store and was sick after every shift. I never realized it was the lights until I changed jobs and it stopped happening, then went back to work in a department store and got sick with the same symptoms. When I would go shopping, I'd get sick again! Finally met a biochemist who told me that it was the fluorescent lights that were doing it. At the time, I thought it was weird. I still hate to go shopping because I don't feel well when done, and I'm a fast shopper! My friend, has three sons, two functioning autistic, all full grown. One 'hears' fluorescent lights and it drives him crazy. He also hears 'wiring' in the walls. The other is very sensitive to sunlight and gets hives and nausea. I'm not sure what the connection is, but my very wild guess is anyone who may have a lot of heavy metals or fungus in their bodies, might have a reaction from fluorescent lights for some reason. I would guess the same can be true from certain rays of the sun. Diane - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. If you did a test run with some kitchen foil to shield your head/neck area just to see if it would work, then it might be worth sinking the money/time into seeing if the fabric is available at something less than an exorbitant price. Or maybe an army/navy surplus would have something like it. Maybe you are tired of ideas now, but it seemed worth mentioning. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: When I go to the grocery store the lights are real high up in the ceiling and don't bother me...but at work the ceiling is an average height ceiling...I notice when we have to go to meetings downstairs, the lights are there also, by the end of the hour or so meeting my ears are beet red along with my neck. When I use to dye my hair the same thing would happen. I use the silver daily to kill off anything going on inside me...and I am in and out of Hospitals, nursing homes and private homes. Being exposed even to the H1N1 and I am happy to say I am pretty healthy. As far as the heavy metals I take clay internally three or four time a week to help keep them at bay, thanks much, Debbie From: Diane Mackey dmacke...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:45:37 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Debbie, When I was in my teens, I worked at a grocery store and was sick after every shift. I never realized it was the lights until I changed jobs and it stopped happening, then went back to work in a department store and got sick with the same symptoms. When I would go shopping, I'd get sick again! Finally met a biochemist who told me that it was the fluorescent lights that were doing it. At the time, I thought it was weird. I still hate to go shopping because I don't feel well when done, and I'm a fast shopper! My friend, has three sons, two functioning autistic, all full grown. One 'hears' fluorescent lights and it drives him crazy. He also hears 'wiring' in the walls. The other is very sensitive to sunlight and gets hives and nausea. I'm not sure what the connection is, but my very wild guess is anyone who may have a lot of heavy metals or fungus in their bodies, might have a reaction from fluorescent lights for some reason. I would guess the same can be true from certain rays of the sun. Diane - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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Hi Debbie, I've not seen an upper limit. But I haven't been looking for an upper limit because I feel that I'm chronically borderline deficient anyway. Mg seems to be the one thing that will haul me back from grumps, confusion and depression. I take a Ca+ Mg powder morning and evening and let them sort themselves out inside. Somewhere i read that it is better to take Ca in the late afternoon or early evening and to take Mg early in the morning. Then also read that Ca needs some Mg and that Mg needs a bit of Ca to be readily absorbed. You have had some wise replies. your running out of energy could come from anywhere. I used to get Sunday Sickness. I'd go like a Boeing, sorta, during the week and collapse over the weekend. Long afterwards figured that Sunday Sickness was probably due to relaxing: release of tension somehow released toxins which created a mini Herx; headache, nausea, lassitude. If only I'd known then to relax, drink more water etc Mg Dosage (min) is anyway tricky thing to establish exactly, because recommended dosage figures are usually in elemental Mg and the packages are in Magnesium Carbonate or whatever. ( I take guess that elemental Mg is about 1/2 of the actual compound ; unless it is stated. ) Also we need relatively more as we age. and absorbtion and requirements depend on other factors like Vit D consumption The RDA is 350mg per day. Krispin says 500mg per day as minimum. I googled magnesium safe dose and first hit was this site: http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html Recommended Dietary Allowance To compensate for deficiencies and/or losses the new RDA is expected to be 500 mg. per day. My Krispin-RDA is a total of 500-700 mg magnesium daily. Determination of optimal amounts must take into consideration both body size and activity level. Magnesium is a key component of the ATP cycle in the cell which produces all energy. Formula to Calculate Magnesium Daily Requirement- 5 to 10 milligrams per day per kilo of ideal body weight or 2.5 to 4.5 milligrams per day per pound of ideal body weight. Example: 70 kilos or 150 pounds= 350 mg. to 700 mg. daily. (Do not use these calculations for children. The requirements for children are calculated differently. Please consult with your health care professional for more information.) If one or more deficiency or loss factors are a consideration or you have any of the conditions associated with low magnesium use the higher number- you take diuretics, including potassium sparing diuretics you are an athlete in training you are diabetic you have hypertension you are post surgical you are under large amounts of stress you consume large amounts of carbohydrates you are repairing damaged tissue as in arthritis the weather is very hot, you perspire profusely you have any of the conditions listed above you are dieting with/without medications you are experiencing chronic pain you have heart disease you have high cholesterol or triglycerides hth, got to go, OK, Tony On 8 Nov 2009 at 7:00, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question does anyone know what the safe limit is for Mg? From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 12:20:56 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Hi Debbie, You could be running out of Mg (or something else) during the course of the shift. OK, tony On 6 Nov 2009 at 19:10, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http
Re: CSStrange question
I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Not looking at anything though... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Think about it... Dan On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Not looking at anything though... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Fluorescent lights flicker at 60 cycles per second. Also, when the balast or the light is starting to fail, it can also produce a pronounced flickering. This flickering can cause eyestrain. Certain frequencies of light, being unnatural, are also conducive to eyestrain. Usually, this strain then produces some sort of headache or tensing of the muscles around the head, the neck, and/or the shoulders. After working all day, you are probably tired and the extra strain produced by the fluorescents probably are enough to make the problem noticeable... Dan On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Not looking at anything though... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks that makes perfect sense, debbie From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 12:29:38 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Fluorescent lights flicker at 60 cycles per second. Also, when the balast or the light is starting to fail, it can also produce a pronounced flickering. This flickering can cause eyestrain. Certain frequencies of light, being unnatural, are also conducive to eyestrain. Usually, this strain then produces some sort of headache or tensing of the muscles around the head, the neck, and/or the shoulders. After working all day, you are probably tired and the extra strain produced by the fluorescents probably are enough to make the problem noticeable... Dan On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Not looking at anything though... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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thanks for everyone's input, debbie From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 7:32:17 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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Annie what is A Qlink all about? thanks much Debbie From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 9:15:48 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Some people are sensitive to fluorescent lights. For instance epileptic people can't tolerate fluorescents well. They can trigger epileptic seizures. Maybe you're just extra sensitive to them when you're fatigued at the end of the day. A Qlink might help. I've heard some promising things about them. I've been saving to buy one. You can find them more reasonably priced on eBay than the website. Annie Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Also Potassium deficiency? If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away. FWIW. MA From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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A big glass of water stops mine immediately at night, but a large glass of water before you sleep tends to stop it ever happening. Jane From: MaryAnn Helland Also Potassium deficiency? If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away. FWIW. MA ,
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Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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LOL -- a large glass of water before I sleep will have me up for other reasons, Jane! :-D MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:40:47 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question A big glass of water stops mine immediately at night, but a large glass of water before you sleep tends to stop it ever happening. Jane From: MaryAnn Helland Also Potassium deficiency? If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away. FWIW. MA ,
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You and me both :) From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:35:39 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question LOL -- a large glass of water before I sleep will have me up for other reasons, Jane! :-D MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:40:47 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question A big glass of water stops mine immediately at night, but a large glass of water before you sleep tends to stop it ever happening. Jane From: MaryAnn Helland Also Potassium deficiency? If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away. FWIW. MA ,
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Some people are sensitive to fluorescent lights. For instance epileptic people can't tolerate fluorescents well. They can trigger epileptic seizures. Maybe you're just extra sensitive to them when you're fatigued at the end of the day. A Qlink might help. I've heard some promising things about them. I've been saving to buy one. You can find them more reasonably priced on eBay than the website. Annie Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
