Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
11/2/02 11:35 AM Ode Coyote Be sure your fingers are warm when you look at them? My whole finger gets blue when it's cold and not even all that cold. Ken ** Hi Ken, Try taking 800 to 1,000 IUs of vitamin E. ( make that d alpha tocopherol not dl alpha), it improves circulation. Give it 30 to 60 days. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Be sure your fingers are warm when you look at them? My whole finger gets blue when it's cold and not even all that cold. Ken At 11:48 PM 11/1/02 -0600, you wrote: I have also noticed a bluish/purple tint on my fingernail moons. In my case they have come and gone over the years. They were there before I ever heard of CS, but they are currently not blue, even though I drink CS every day and have done so for about a year now. I don't know what they indicate (if anything). So I just write it off as another non-essential mystery. I can't comment about your CS generator since I don't know anything about it, but I use the Silvergen SG-6 and am very happy with it. Be at Peace Al - Original Message - From: mailto:paulldn...@yahoo.com>Paul Ladendorf To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>Silver List Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: CS>Uh Oh...Blue Fingernails Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul -- Do you Yahoo!? http://rd.yahoo.com/careers/mailsig/*http://www.hotjobs.com >HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
For a photon of light to cause any action, it must be absorbed. Clear CS does not absorb any light in the visible spectrum at all, so if any change were to be expected it would HAVE to come from interaction with ultraviolet. Now if you have yellow colored CS then the light absorbed is in the violet and ultraviolet spectrum, so the longest wavelength that could affect it wold be violet. It is very well known how silver compounds at least react with light. This is the basis of almost all photography. The longer the wavelength of the light, the larger the particle has to be normally. Thus film use to not be sensitive to red or infrared light at all. However more modern films have other substances in the emulsion which absorb the light, then pass the energy on to the silver to expose it. This allows modern fine grained films to be sensitive to all colors, and even infrared. Thus it is apparent that for silver activation a resonance is not required, only a minimum quanta of energy. Marshall Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Uh-oh, I dunno. Generally speaking, some effects of light energy are quantized; i.e., they come in whole-number sizes and it takes just the right amount or size packet of energy to cause a light mediated change in some chemical reaction: not too much, not too little. I don't know where uv light fits in relation to the way silver particles react, but suspect that the major factor is not the light but the silver compound. Take care, Malcolm At 01:59 AM 11/3/02 -0600, you wrote: Not trying to get far afield, but does one using Water Oz also stand a great greater chance of Argyria when exposed to ultraviolet light or tanning salon light? - Original Message - From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 1:26 AM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Water Oz Is a form of silver, the msp or mild silver protein sort - supposedly, I think. . . . . . Some messages on the list have suggested that it really contains silver salts such as the nitrate. It has been implicated by some in several reports of Argyria. One aspect of the Argyria thing is that the silver particles are 'developed' by strong sunshine, turning black just like in a photo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Maybe? http://www.focusonarthritis.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=463rd=1 - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Be sure your fingers are warm when you look at them? My whole finger gets blue when it's cold and not even all that cold. Ken At 11:48 PM 11/1/02 -0600, you wrote: I have also noticed a bluish/purple tint on my fingernail moons. In my case they have come and gone over the years. They were there before I ever heard of CS, but they are currently not blue, even though I drink CS every day and have done so for about a year now. I don't know what they indicate (if anything). So I just write it off as another non-essential mystery. I can't comment about your CS generator since I don't know anything about it, but I use the Silvergen SG-6 and am very happy with it. Be at Peace Al - Original Message - From: mailto:paulldn...@yahoo.comPaul Ladendorf To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comSilver List Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul -- Do you Yahoo!? http://rd.yahoo.com/careers/mailsig/*http://www.hotjobs.com HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Not trying to get far afield, but does one using Water Oz also stand a great greater chance of Argyria when exposed to ultraviolet light or tanning salon light? - Original Message - From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 1:26 AM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Water Oz Is a form of silver, the msp or mild silver protein sort - supposedly, I think. . . . . . Some messages on the list have suggested that it really contains silver salts such as the nitrate. It has been implicated by some in several reports of Argyria. One aspect of the Argyria thing is that the silver particles are 'developed' by strong sunshine, turning black just like in a photo. At 01:07 AM 11/3/02 -0600, you wrote: As much as I try to miss nothing on the silver list and did read some of Water Ox and Argyria, could you explain how this occurs. Is it the Water Oz alone or used in conjunction with CS? With regard to the inquiry about Paul's possible to excessive exposure to sun? How does this figure in? Not trying to nit pick, just trying to sort out a common denominatorif possible. Thanks, Barbara - Original Message - From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails I have also heard that Water-Oz Silver has produced Argyria symptoms in a few of it's users. As a matter of fact, what I heard was that almost all recent argyria cases from silver supplementation were connected to Water-Oz. Colloidal IS the way to go for safety. Paul, did you recently have any excessive sun exposure? If you did, that may account for the fact that the blueness was so suddenly apparent. Go easy on the cs for a while and when you restart, keep it below 1oz for a while. Even the best things can do harm in excess. As a fellow MSer, I empathize with your impatience to be well. Take care of yourself. Blessings, Jannette If I'm not mistaken, someone who was once an active member of this list believes she developed argyria from the Water Oz product. Someone here may recall the details on this. Regards, Catherine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 11/1/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails/reply
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:05:06 -0800 (PST), Paul Ladendorf wrote in 20021102160506.26133.qm...@web12904.mail.yahoo.com: You wanted to turn blue taking that amount or either you want to promote fear on this site. No. I want to get well and I want to share my experience. As I said, my fingernails may have been blue for years. I don't know, just stating a fact. I have had MS-like symptoms for 5 years. Do you have a chronic degerative disease that has made you a little desperate? I hope you are not drinking soft drinks containing aspartame (Nutra Sweet)? If you do, I recommend to do a Google search on aspartame and see what it has done for other people. Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
I believe there are at least two causes. First it can indicate a circulatory problem, lack of oxygen and so forth. The same is also true for your lips. The second would be if there are silver deposits in that area. From my own experience, it appears that the deposits are in the fingernail itself, since the blue area has moved from the moon area out toward the tip as my fingernail grows. This may also account for those who have said that CS has helped reduce their grey hair, since hair and fingernails are virtually identical materials. Marshall Alfred Davis wrote: I have also noticed a bluish/purple tint on my fingernail moons. In my case they have comeand gone over the years. They were there before I ever heard of CS, but they are currentlynot blue, even though I drink CS every day and have done so for about a year now. I don'tknow what they indicate (if anything). So I just write it off as another non-essential mystery.I can't comment about your CS generator since I don't know anything about it, but I use the Silvergen SG-6 and am very happy with it. Be at Peace Al - Original Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: Silver List Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
I believe that is the case, but could be wrong. Marshall Barbara Liles wrote: Not trying to get far afield, but does one using Water Oz also stand a great greater chance of Argyria when exposed to ultraviolet light or tanning salon light? - Original Message - From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 1:26 AM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Water Oz Is a form of silver, the msp or mild silver protein sort - supposedly, I think. . . . . . Some messages on the list have suggested that it really contains silver salts such as the nitrate. It has been implicated by some in several reports of Argyria. One aspect of the Argyria thing is that the silver particles are 'developed' by strong sunshine, turning black just like in a photo. At 01:07 AM 11/3/02 -0600, you wrote: As much as I try to miss nothing on the silver list and did read some of Water Ox and Argyria, could you explain how this occurs. Is it the Water Oz alone or used in conjunction with CS? With regard to the inquiry about Paul's possible to excessive exposure to sun? How does this figure in? Not trying to nit pick, just trying to sort out a common denominatorif possible. Thanks, Barbara - Original Message - From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails I have also heard that Water-Oz Silver has produced Argyria symptoms in a few of it's users. As a matter of fact, what I heard was that almost all recent argyria cases from silver supplementation were connected to Water-Oz. Colloidal IS the way to go for safety. Paul, did you recently have any excessive sun exposure? If you did, that may account for the fact that the blueness was so suddenly apparent. Go easy on the cs for a while and when you restart, keep it below 1oz for a while. Even the best things can do harm in excess. As a fellow MSer, I empathize with your impatience to be well. Take care of yourself. Blessings, Jannette If I'm not mistaken, someone who was once an active member of this list believes she developed argyria from the Water Oz product. Someone here may recall the details on this. Regards, Catherine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 11/1/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Uh-oh, I dunno. Generally speaking, some effects of light energy are quantized; i.e., they come in whole-number sizes and it takes just the right amount or size packet of energy to cause a light mediated change in some chemical reaction: not too much, not too little. I don't know where uv light fits in relation to the way silver particles react, but suspect that the major factor is not the light but the silver compound. Take care, Malcolm At 01:59 AM 11/3/02 -0600, you wrote: Not trying to get far afield, but does one using Water Oz also stand a great greater chance of Argyria when exposed to ultraviolet light or tanning salon light? - Original Message - From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 1:26 AM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Water Oz Is a form of silver, the msp or mild silver protein sort - supposedly, I think. . . . . . Some messages on the list have suggested that it really contains silver salts such as the nitrate. It has been implicated by some in several reports of Argyria. One aspect of the Argyria thing is that the silver particles are 'developed' by strong sunshine, turning black just like in a photo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
I have also heard that Water-Oz Silver has produced Argyria symptoms in a few of it's users. As a matter of fact, what I heard was that almost all recent argyria cases from silver supplementation were connected to Water-Oz. Colloidal IS the way to go for safety. Paul, did you recently have any excessive sun exposure? If you did, that may account for the fact that the blueness was so suddenly apparent. Go easy on the cs for a while and when you restart, keep it below 1oz for a while. Even the best things can do harm in excess. As a fellow MSer, I empathize with your impatience to be well. Take care of yourself. Blessings, Jannette If I'm not mistaken, someone who was once an active member of this list believes she developed argyria from the Water Oz product. Someone here may recall the details on this. Regards, Catherine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 11/1/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:09:20 -0800 (PST), Paul Ladendorf paulldn...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz As I understand it, Water Oz is a silver compound (as are most of their other minerals). IOW, it's not colloidal. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails/reply
Dear Paul, You said: No. I want to get well and I want to share my experience. As I said, my fingernails may have been blue for years. I don't know, just stating a fact. I have had MS-like symptoms for 5 years. Do you have a chronic degerative disease that has made you a little desperate? You must know what the maximum dosage for treating chronic degenerative disease is. Why don't you share that with us and tell us what your opinion is based on so that those with chronic degenerative diseases know exactly how much to take. Many people including myself believe that using predominantly ionic, quality-made silver cannot cause argyria. Do you remember Nancy Delise's testimony (and I'm sure there are plenty of others) that she took 16 oz of 10 ppm for MS for over 2 years and got great results and she also has friends using the same and, according to her, all are getting great results? I also talked with a well-known, very knowledgeable generator mfg. on this site and he said ta! king quantity is the key and that he has had reports of a number of people with MS getting excellent results. Please share your wisdom with us. ** Thank you for sharing your experiences. I don't believe it is appropriate for anyone to attempt to silence someone by attempting to discredit or ridicule them. It is strictly allopathic thinking to believe all people will react the same way to a particular substance. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Laura asked: Did WaterOz give a recommended dosage? Paul replied: 2 oz/day. If I'm not mistaken, someone who was once an active member of this list believes she developed argyria from the Water Oz product. Someone here may recall the details on this. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails/reply
Mars, You wanted to turn blue taking that amount or either you want to promote fear on this site. No. I want to get well and I want to share my experience. As I said, my fingernails may have been blue for years. I don't know, just stating a fact. I have had MS-like symptoms for 5 years. Do you have a chronic degerative disease that has made you a little desperate? You must know what the maximum dosage for treating chronic degenerative disease is. Why don't you share that with us and tell us what your opinion is based on so that those with chronic degenerative diseases know exactly how much to take. Many people including myself believe that using predominantly ionic, quality-made silver cannot cause argyria. Do you remember Nancy Delise's testimony (and I'm sure there are plenty of others) that she took 16 oz of 10 ppm for MS for over 2 years and got great results and she also has friends using the same and, according to her, all are getting great results? I also talked with a well-known, very knowledgeable generator mfg. on this site and he said taking quantity is the key and that he has had reports of a number of people with MS getting excellent results. Please share your wisdom with us. Paul - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Laura, Are you battling a particular illness as reason to take 16-32 oz per day? I have had MS-like symptoms for 5 years. That seems like a lot of CS. When I joined the list I felt reassured that some people had been taking 8oz per day for long periods safely. I'm not afraid of the CS I make at home but I have a healthy respect for it. I don't think I've ever taken more than 4oz in one day under any circumstances. It depends on the ppm. In terms of how much actual silver you are ingesting, taking 8 oz of 20 ppm would be the same as taking 32 oz of 5 ppm (which is what I assumed I was taking based on the mfg's claim). Did WaterOz give a recommended dosage? 2 oz/day. Paul - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Paul, Blue moons or blue fingernails can be a sign that you are not getting enough oxygen or that you are being poisoned. How do you get along with your wife? Tom ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:09:20 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now image/gifimage/gifImage/gif
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
As much as I try to miss nothing on the silver list and did read some of Water Ox and Argyria, could you explain how this occurs. Is it the Water Oz alone or used in conjunction with CS? With regard to the inquiry about Paul's possible to excessive exposure to sun? How does this figure in? Not trying to nit pick, just trying to sort out a common denominatorif possible. Thanks, Barbara - Original Message - From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails I have also heard that Water-Oz Silver has produced Argyria symptoms in a few of it's users. As a matter of fact, what I heard was that almost all recent argyria cases from silver supplementation were connected to Water-Oz. Colloidal IS the way to go for safety. Paul, did you recently have any excessive sun exposure? If you did, that may account for the fact that the blueness was so suddenly apparent. Go easy on the cs for a while and when you restart, keep it below 1oz for a while. Even the best things can do harm in excess. As a fellow MSer, I empathize with your impatience to be well. Take care of yourself. Blessings, Jannette If I'm not mistaken, someone who was once an active member of this list believes she developed argyria from the Water Oz product. Someone here may recall the details on this. Regards, Catherine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 11/1/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Water Oz Is a form of silver, the msp or mild silver protein sort - supposedly, I think. . . . . . Some messages on the list have suggested that it really contains silver salts such as the nitrate. It has been implicated by some in several reports of Argyria. One aspect of the Argyria thing is that the silver particles are 'developed' by strong sunshine, turning black just like in a photo. At 01:07 AM 11/3/02 -0600, you wrote: As much as I try to miss nothing on the silver list and did read some of Water Ox and Argyria, could you explain how this occurs. Is it the Water Oz alone or used in conjunction with CS? With regard to the inquiry about Paul's possible to excessive exposure to sun? How does this figure in? Not trying to nit pick, just trying to sort out a common denominatorif possible. Thanks, Barbara - Original Message - From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails I have also heard that Water-Oz Silver has produced Argyria symptoms in a few of it's users. As a matter of fact, what I heard was that almost all recent argyria cases from silver supplementation were connected to Water-Oz. Colloidal IS the way to go for safety. Paul, did you recently have any excessive sun exposure? If you did, that may account for the fact that the blueness was so suddenly apparent. Go easy on the cs for a while and when you restart, keep it below 1oz for a while. Even the best things can do harm in excess. As a fellow MSer, I empathize with your impatience to be well. Take care of yourself. Blessings, Jannette If I'm not mistaken, someone who was once an active member of this list believes she developed argyria from the Water Oz product. Someone here may recall the details on this. Regards, Catherine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 11/1/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails/reply
Paul Ladendorf paulldn...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul You wanted to turn blue taking that amount or either you want to promote fear on this site. - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now thank you - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Paul, Are you battling a particular illness as reason to take 16-32 oz per day? That seems like a lot of CS. When I joined the list I felt reassured that some people had been taking 8oz per day for long periods safely. I'm not afraid of the CS I make at home but I have a healthy respect for it. I don't think I've ever taken more than 4oz in one day under any circumstances. Did WaterOz give a recommended dosage? Laura In a message dated 11/1/02 10:10:29 PM Central Standard Time, paulldn...@yahoo.com writes: Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16- 32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue- purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
I have also noticed a bluish/purple tint on my fingernail moons. In my case they have come and gone over the years. They were there before I ever heard of CS, but they are currently not blue, even though I drink CS every day and have done so for about a year now. I don't know what they indicate (if anything). So I just write it off as another non-essential mystery. I can't comment about your CS generator since I don't know anything about it, but I use the Silvergen SG-6 and am very happy with it. Be at Peace Al - Original Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: Silver List Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul -- Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
