Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
Maybe you were taking the wrong form of chlorella...? John On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:29 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: You're right Dee... I've always been a supplement freak, but when I got around to trying chlorella it put my head in the toilet. Tried it two more times, but it's just a no-go. Gave it away. Chuck Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy. On 1/25/2010 6:50:50 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Just shows really, that unless you know exactly what you are doing, it can be a very dodgy thing taking some supplements. I have been taking chlorella, vit C ALA and D3 sublingual, along with whey, and the last two days I have felt really unwell; so much so, that I have left off all supplements for a few days, and am now feeling better. I experienced the most awful bone-tiredness where I could not keep my eyes open; a couple hours after taking them; but could not sleep either. Also a disturbance of vision and subsequent thumping headache. Now I don't know if its coincidence or what, but I am going to introduce them back in one at a time and see what if any, have caused it. Maybe its because I take them altogether, who knows? dee On 24 Jan 2010, at 22:03, sol wrote: On the iron overload sites I have visited, the recommendation is simply not to take vit C with meals. It is fine to take vit C between meals away from iron containing drinks and foods. Info I read at the Livon Labs site indicates that liposomal C passes from the stomach or intestines into the blood stream and thus to the liver, where it is processed. If true, that means it would not affect iron absorption, or at least that portion of the -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVit C increases iron uptake
Thank you Sol, John, group, for your info, especially Sol. I do not usually take more than 2 or three supplements simultaneously for the fear of them acting to each other. But iron overload is really scary - it even causes cancer. However vit C taken between meals and possibly liposomed is the solution. Blood donation is another (allopatic) solution. Simeon - Хостинг от 3.60 лв/м| Домейни от 17.46 лв/с ДДС| Сървъри, VPS от 48.00 лв/м с ДДС! 18 GB място, Неограничен трафик, Безплатен домейн – 6.90 лв./м с ДДС! 25 GB място, 1200 GB трафик, Безплатен домейн – 11.46 лв./м с ДДС! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
Isn't it strange Chuck, because it is supposed to be a whole superfood. It does have chelation properties though, so maybe it gets rid of the wrong type of mineral i.e. iron or something - in some people. I know I have always been low in iron so maybe this is it.. dee On 25 Jan 2010, at 22:29, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: You're right Dee... I've always been a supplement freak, but when I got around to trying chlorella it put my head in the toilet. Tried it two more times, but it's just a no-go. Gave it away. Chuck Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
At 04:28 AM 1/26/2010, you wrote: But iron overload is really scary - it even causes cancer. Yes, iron overload is very scary, and since it is so rarely even looked for, I believe it is way underdiagnosed, and since the normal lab range for ferritin is averaged from people who were apparently not screened for iron overload, the upper limit of the range is way too high. I do not believe I have genetic hemochromatosis, but there are other reasons for people to load too much iron. I was only mid-range when I started de-ironing. But I didn't want to wait until I had organ damage, diabetes, or cancer. My family health history on both sides is heavy in the diseases most often associated with iron overload, colon cancer, diabetes, thyroid problems, heart disease. My latest doctor took a look at my very low ferritin (I had donated blood too often) and freaked. I fired her last week for ordering an anemia panel instead of a single ferritin test. I am sure if I was subject to being intimidated by doctors she would have me on high dose iron supplements or even iron IVs. I complained to the practice manager and requested to be not charge or re-imbursed for the extra lab tests that I did not authorize nor request. I am feeling really uneasy about doing that, because there are only 3 doctors in this town, all employed by the single clinic, but I am sick and tired of paying and shutting up (I am paying out of pocket for these tests. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSVit C increases iron uptake
Alpha Lipoic Acid has been shown to reduce iron buildup in the brain and inhibit excess iron accumulation. While there does not appear to be studies regarding iron and ALA in other body tissues, I see no reason why ALA would not protect them as well. - Steve N http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/la/index.html Metal Chelation: Redox-active metal ions, such as free iron and copper, can induce oxidative damage by catalyzing reactions that generate highly reactive free radicals (24). Compounds that chelate (bind) free metal ions in a way that prevents them from generating free radicals offer promise in the treatment of neurodegenerative and other chronic diseases, in which metal-induced oxidative damage may play a role (25). Both LA and DHLA have been found to inhibit copper- and iron-mediated oxidative damage in the test tube (26, 27), and to inhibit excess iron and copper accumulation in animal models (28, 29). 28. Yamamoto H, Watanabe T, Mizuno H, et al. The antioxidant effect of DL-alpha-lipoic acid on copper-induced acute hepatitis in Long-Evans Cinnamon (LEC) rats. Free Radic Res. 2001;34(1):69-80. (PubMed) 29. Suh JH, Moreau R, Heath SH, Hagen TM. Dietary supplementation with (R)-alpha-lipoic acid reverses the age-related accumulation of iron and depletion of antioxidants in the rat cerebral cortex. Redox Rep. 2005;10(1):52-60. (PubMed) http://www.advice-hgh.com/ala/blood-and-iron.html As mentioned above, lipoic acid chelates transition metals, binding them tightly and preventing them from going on a Fenton frenzy. More specifically, R(+)-Lipoic Acid is superior to the S(-)- in controlling the acceleration of free radical damage by copper 54 Likewise, lipoic acid can protect cells from the toxic heavy transition metal cadmium through chelation, but it only becomes effective when charged up into its DHLA form; 55 since the body makes DHLA from R(+)-Lipoic Acid much more quickly than happens with the S(-)-form, 37 , 39 that should mean that R(+)-Lipoic Acid gives stronger protection against cadmium toxicity than the S(-)-form. And what about iron? The ability of the racemate to tie up iron is well-established,30 although unfortunately no studies that we know of have compared the iron-chelating protection provided by the racemate with the powers of R(+)-lipoic acid. But there's only been one study to see if lipoic acid might be able to protect the brain of a living, breathing organism against damage from excessive iron buildup - and that study used R(+)-lipoic acid. 56 In this study, 56 scientists looked at the levels of iron in the brains of young, middle-aged, late-middle aged, and old lab animals. Not surprisingly, the older the animal, the more iron it had in its brain, though how much more depended on what part of the brain the researchers looked at. When they looked at levels of vitamin C in these areas, the scientists consistently found that the more iron was present in a given part of the brain at a given age, the lower was the level of vitamin C - suggesting that the presence of iron was depleting the brain of its antioxidant defense forces. Remarkably, at the end of an experiment that lasted just two weeks, the forebrains of old animals which were given R(+)-Lipoic Acid in their food were found to have 60% less iron buildup, and to have undergone a substantial restoration of antioxidant defenses (as measured by vitamin C levels), as compared to unsupplemented animals in the same age group. No significant differences were seen in other brain areas; however, one wonders if a mere two weeks may simply not have been enough time to mobilize the iron accumulation from structures located deeper within the brain. Either way, this study - combined with the other known neuroprotective effects of lipoic acid (and especially the R(+)-form) - suggests that R(+)-Lipoic Acid shows promise in the prevention (and, perhaps, even the treatment) of several devastating neurological diseases. -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake At 04:28 AM 1/26/2010, you wrote: But iron overload is really scary - it even causes cancer. Yes, iron overload is very scary, and since it is so rarely even looked for, I believe it is way underdiagnosed, and since the normal lab range for ferritin is averaged from people who were apparently not screened for iron overload, the upper limit of the range is way too high. I do not believe I have genetic hemochromatosis, but there are other reasons for people to load too much iron. I was only mid-range when I started de-ironing. But I didn't want to wait until I had organ damage, diabetes, or cancer. My family health history on both sides is heavy in the diseases most often associated with iron overload, colon cancer, diabetes, thyroid problems, heart disease. My latest doctor took a look at my very low ferritin
RE: CSVit C increases iron uptake
Thanks Steve, Very interesting info. sol At 10:52 AM 1/26/2010, you wrote: Alpha Lipoic Acid has been shown to reduce iron buildup in the brain and inhibit excess iron accumulation. While there does not appear to be studies regarding iron and ALA in other body tissues, I see no reason why ALA would not protect them as well. - Steve N http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/la/index.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
I take dessicated liver powder for the heme iron. It doesn't build up in the system the way other iron types do. Used to be once upon a time, that doctors recommended live three times a week for anemic patients but it's been a very long time since I've heard that. It's also a great source of B vits, and vit A. I get mine from a source that manufactures it from Argentine grass fed cattle. One strange note. I hated liver when I was a kid, but a few years ago someone convinced me to try it pan fried with onions and garlic, without any added oil. I really liked it. I still don't care for chicken or pork liver though. The flavor is just not right or something. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: At 04:28 AM 1/26/2010, you wrote: But iron overload is really scary - it even causes cancer. Yes, iron overload is very scary, and since it is so rarely even looked for, I believe it is way underdiagnosed, and since the normal lab range for ferritin is averaged from people who were apparently not screened for iron overload, the upper limit of the range is way too high. I do not believe I have genetic hemochromatosis, but there are other reasons for people to load too much iron. I was only mid-range when I started de-ironing. But I didn't want to wait until I had organ damage, diabetes, or cancer. My family health history on both sides is heavy in the diseases most often associated with iron overload, colon cancer, diabetes, thyroid problems, heart disease. My latest doctor took a look at my very low ferritin (I had donated blood too often) and freaked. I fired her last week for ordering an anemia panel instead of a single ferritin test. I am sure if I was subject to being intimidated by doctors she would have me on high dose iron supplements or even iron IVs. I complained to the practice manager and requested to be not charge or re-imbursed for the extra lab tests that I did not authorize nor request. I am feeling really uneasy about doing that, because there are only 3 doctors in this town, all employed by the single clinic, but I am sick and tired of paying and shutting up (I am paying out of pocket for these tests. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
Just shows really, that unless you know exactly what you are doing, it can be a very dodgy thing taking some supplements. I have been taking chlorella, vit C ALA and D3 sublingual, along with whey, and the last two days I have felt really unwell; so much so, that I have left off all supplements for a few days, and am now feeling better. I experienced the most awful bone-tiredness where I could not keep my eyes open; a couple hours after taking them; but could not sleep either. Also a disturbance of vision and subsequent thumping headache. Now I don't know if its coincidence or what, but I am going to introduce them back in one at a time and see what if any, have caused it. Maybe its because I take them altogether, who knows? dee On 24 Jan 2010, at 22:03, sol wrote: On the iron overload sites I have visited, the recommendation is simply not to take vit C with meals. It is fine to take vit C between meals away from iron containing drinks and foods. Info I read at the Livon Labs site indicates that liposomal C passes from the stomach or intestines into the blood stream and thus to the liver, where it is processed. If true, that means it would not affect iron absorption, or at least that portion of the product which is truly liposomal would not. Because making it at home does not produce a 100% liposomal product, I am being cautious and taking my C mix between meals. Iron absorption from meals can be at least partially blocked by drinking coffee or black tea with each meal. Also there are blocking/chelating supplements such as IP-6 and alpha lipoic acid that are said to help block/remove iron. Taking calcium iwth meals also blocks some iron absorption. Conversely taking Betaine HCL with meals increases iron absorption from that meal. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
You're right Dee... I've always been a supplement freak, but when I got around to trying chlorella it put my head in the toilet. Tried it two more times, but it's just a no-go. Gave it away. Chuck Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy. On 1/25/2010 6:50:50 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Just shows really, that unless you know exactly what you are doing, it can be a very dodgy thing taking some supplements. I have been taking chlorella, vit C ALA and D3 sublingual, along with whey, and the last two days I have felt really unwell; so much so, that I have left off all supplements for a few days, and am now feeling better. I experienced the most awful bone-tiredness where I could not keep my eyes open; a couple hours after taking them; but could not sleep either. Also a disturbance of vision and subsequent thumping headache. Now I don't know if its coincidence or what, but I am going to introduce them back in one at a time and see what if any, have caused it. Maybe its because I take them altogether, who knows? dee On 24 Jan 2010, at 22:03, sol wrote: On the iron overload sites I have visited, the recommendation is simply not to take vit C with meals. It is fine to take vit C between meals away from iron containing drinks and foods. Info I read at the Livon Labs site indicates that liposomal C passes from the stomach or intestines into the blood stream and thus to the liver, where it is processed. If true, that means it would not affect iron absorption, or at least that portion of the -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVit C increases iron uptake
Hi John, group, I have read that Vit C increases iron uptake and you know excess iron could be a problem. Did some of you taking vit C had increased iron in blood tests ? Is liposomal C better in this sense ? Simeon - Ferratum - бърз заем онлайн! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
hi, Simeon: I give blood every 56 days. The Red Cross always test my iron levels which are usually around 10 - 12, normal they say. I enjoy giving blood because it not only helps the Red Cross and many people, but it gets any excess iron out of my system and gets my spleen working making new blood. A couple days after I give blood I have a new and fresh abundance of energy which I attribute to the fresh, new blood. Imagine how wonderful creating a fresh new pint supply of blood every 56 days is.In 35 years of taking immense amounts of vitamin C, I've never had any problems with iron. It only takes me a little over 5 minutes to give a pint of blood - which is a very quick time - especially for an old-timer like me. Most folks, even young folks, take 8 - 12 minutes to give a pint of blood. What does that mean? My arteries and veins are clean and my blood flows very well. Vit C also helps to clean your veins and arteries out, but I also use chlorella, zeolite, pectasol and EDTA to clean my circulatory system (Vit E, CoQ10, resveratrol, L-Lyceine, too). I deem they're all important. Chlorine is dangerous to the circulatory system, too. I haven't drunk tap water in many, many years. There's a deep in the ground, free flowing spring a short ways down my road where I draw my water and store in GLASS - not plastic... Ha... It's the water I drink and cook in. I also put a chlorine filter in my shower so I don't inhale any chlorine steam. Chlorine puts little scratches inside your veins and arteries which cholesterol patches like a band-aid and after years and years of cholesterol patches, folks wonder why their veins and arteries plug-up. Hmmmnnn. Other bad food sources help the plug-up, too. Fairly obvious, isn't it? In my last message to you, I was going to mention additional supplements I take - MSM, hyaloronic acid, Magnesium, glucosamine *without* chondroitinn, natto, probiotics, NAC, prostate support, ginko, and there are others I'll mention later. I've been taking supplements for over 35 years and I've added and subtracted as new info came along. 2010/1/24 muk...@mail.bg Hi John, group, I have read that Vit C increases iron uptake and you know excess iron could be a problem. Did some of you taking vit C had increased iron in blood tests ? Is liposomal C better in this sense ? Simeon - Ferratum - бърз заем онлайн! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
John: Do you take any fish oil supplements? I read recently that studies indicate C and E interfere with its apoptotic activities, and that could be an issue if one is taking high-ish doses of fish oil to control cancer. Thanks, TW John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com wrote: = hi, Simeon: I give blood every 56 days. The Red Cross always test my iron levels which are usually around 10 - 12, normal they say. I enjoy giving blood because it not only helps the Red Cross and many people, but it gets any excess iron out of my system and gets my spleen working making new blood. A couple days after I give blood I have a new and fresh abundance of energy which I attribute to the fresh, new blood. Imagine how wonderful creating a fresh new pint supply of blood every 56 days is.In 35 years of taking immense amounts of vitamin C, I've never had any problems with iron. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
Ya Well John, Best check your source of glass bottles. Some (all?) are plastic coated inside. Who knows what is sprayed in and then it is sintered onto the inside surface for various reasons; strengthening and sealing being two, so that lighter bottles may be made. You will have to search for that yourself. How do I know. I was engineer for a brewery a good few years ago and that was told to me. I wanted to know why the caustic soda bottle washing fluid didn't etch the glass. OK, Tony On 24 Jan 2010 at 8:24, John E. Stevens wrote about : Subject : Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake hi, Simeon: I give blood every 56 days. The Red Cross always test my iron levels which are usually around 10 - 12, normal they say. I enjoy giving blood because it not only helps the Red Cross and many people, but it gets any excess iron out of my system and gets my spleen working making new blood. A couple days after I give blood I have a new and fresh abundance of energy which I attribute to the fresh, new blood. Imagine how wonderful creating a fresh new pint supply of blood every 56 days is.In 35 years of taking immense amounts of vitamin C, I've never had any problems with iron. It only takes me a little over 5 minutes to give a pint of blood - which is a very quick time - especially for an old-timer like me. Most folks, even young folks, take 8 - 12 minutes to give a pint of blood. What does that mean? My arteries and veins are clean and my blood flows very well. Vit C also helps to clean your veins and arteries out, but I also use chlorella, zeolite, pectasol and EDTA to clean my circulatory system (Vit E, CoQ10, resveratrol, L-Lyceine, too). I deem they're all important. Chlorine is dangerous to the circulatory system, too. I haven't drunk tap water in many, many years. There's a deep in the ground, free flowing spring a short ways down my road where I draw my water and store in GLASS - not plastic... Ha... It's the water I drink and cook in. I also put a chlorine filter in my shower so I don't inhale any chlorine steam. Chlorine puts little scratches inside your veins and arteries which cholesterol patches like a band-aid and after years and years of cholesterol patches, folks wonder why their veins and arteries plug-up. Hmmmnnn. Other bad food sources help the plug-up, too. Fairly obvious, isn't it? In my last message to you, I was going to mention additional supplements I take - MSM, hyaloronic acid, Magnesium, glucosamine *without* chondroitinn, natto, probiotics, NAC, prostate support, ginko, and there are others I'll mention later. I've been taking supplements for over 35 years and I've added and subtracted as new info came along. 2010/1/24 muk...@mail.bg Hi John, group, I have read that Vit C increases iron uptake and you know excess iron could be a problem. Did some of you taking vit C had increased iron in blood tests ? Is liposomal C better in this sense ? Simeon - Ferratum - бърз заем онлайн! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
john, what type magnesium is ok to take. I got magnesium chloride as was recommended by Dr. Sircius (?) nurse when I had mercury poisoning. Leslie - Original Message - From: John E. Stevens To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake hi, Simeon: I give blood every 56 days. The Red Cross always test my iron levels which are usually around 10 - 12, normal they say. I enjoy giving blood because it not only helps the Red Cross and many people, but it gets any excess iron out of my system and gets my spleen working making new blood. A couple days after I give blood I have a new and fresh abundance of energy which I attribute to the fresh, new blood. Imagine how wonderful creating a fresh new pint supply of blood every 56 days is.In 35 years of taking immense amounts of vitamin C, I've never had any problems with iron. It only takes me a little over 5 minutes to give a pint of blood - which is a very quick time - especially for an old-timer like me. Most folks, even young folks, take 8 - 12 minutes to give a pint of blood. What does that mean? My arteries and veins are clean and my blood flows very well. Vit C also helps to clean your veins and arteries out, but I also use chlorella, zeolite, pectasol and EDTA to clean my circulatory system (Vit E, CoQ10, resveratrol, L-Lyceine, too). I deem they're all important. Chlorine is dangerous to the circulatory system, too. I haven't drunk tap water in many, many years. There's a deep in the ground, free flowing spring a short ways down my road where I draw my water and store in GLASS - not plastic... Ha... It's the water I drink and cook in. I also put a chlorine filter in my shower so I don't inhale any chlorine steam. Chlorine puts little scratches inside your veins and arteries which cholesterol patches like a band-aid and after years and years of cholesterol patches, folks wonder why their veins and arteries plug-up. Hmmmnnn. Other bad food sources help the plug-up, too. Fairly obvious, isn't it? In my last message to you, I was going to mention additional supplements I take - MSM, hyaloronic acid, Magnesium, glucosamine without chondroitinn, natto, probiotics, NAC, prostate support, ginko, and there are others I'll mention later. I've been taking supplements for over 35 years and I've added and subtracted as new info came along. 2010/1/24 muk...@mail.bg Hi John, group, I have read that Vit C increases iron uptake and you know excess iron could be a problem. Did some of you taking vit C had increased iron in blood tests ? Is liposomal C better in this sense ? Simeon - Ferratum - бърз заем онлайн! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVit C increases iron uptake
On the iron overload sites I have visited, the recommendation is simply not to take vit C with meals. It is fine to take vit C between meals away from iron containing drinks and foods. Info I read at the Livon Labs site indicates that liposomal C passes from the stomach or intestines into the blood stream and thus to the liver, where it is processed. If true, that means it would not affect iron absorption, or at least that portion of the product which is truly liposomal would not. Because making it at home does not produce a 100% liposomal product, I am being cautious and taking my C mix between meals. Iron absorption from meals can be at least partially blocked by drinking coffee or black tea with each meal. Also there are blocking/chelating supplements such as IP-6 and alpha lipoic acid that are said to help block/remove iron. Taking calcium iwth meals also blocks some iron absorption. Conversely taking Betaine HCL with meals increases iron absorption from that meal. sol At 02:33 AM 1/24/2010, you wrote: Hi John, group, I have read that Vit C increases iron uptake and you know excess iron could be a problem. Did some of you taking vit C had increased iron in blood tests ? Is liposomal C better in this sense ? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
