Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread V
Thanks for the links Victor and Ron. Some more for my file!  Anything that
helps get the word out that the Science is far from settled on the topic!

The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of
knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in
return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
Leo Buscaglia

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:


 http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=7f494613c5ad4db1b93e647adid=d79a6b6562e=82e5f08537

 Ron


 On 2/25/2015 8:06 PM, Neville wrote:

 G'day Sandee,

  I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed
 relentlessly in recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one
 hundred percent increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in
 one of the cities hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, or 60 percent,
 or even 90 percent, but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on
 the idiot box {TV}.  But what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100
 percent had actually been vaccinated against colds/flu's?  Smoke and mirror
 deception.  People are so dumb they can't figure it out, they get all they
 deserve as far as I'm concerned.  This is but one reason my attitude to
 things stands out like a sore thumb.  And if vaccinations are not taken
 voluntarily, as in school kids, they are forced upon them, or they and
 their parents are ostracised if they buck against it, with the bold faced
 lie that it's the unvaccinated who spread disease.  Hitler may have died in
 '45, but his legacy still lives on.

  N.

  Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
  From: oha...@juno.com
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the
 truth of the entire story being discussed -
  when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted
 these arguments will continue - the four bodies
  I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual
 they all comprise the whole  Take any one without understanding the
 connect between them all allows for misunderstanding - thanks again
  Cheers
  Sandee[image: Dolphin]
  Attitude is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Here is one more good link - a lawyer speaking against vaccines:
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/attorneys-view-of-vaccines/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHealthyHomeEconomist+%28The+Healthy+Home+Economist%29

Thanks to all of you for your comments and links. That was a pretty awesome
link Ron.

Victor

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:13 PM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the links Victor and Ron. Some more for my file!  Anything that
 helps get the word out that the Science is far from settled on the topic!

 The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of
 knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in
 return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
 Leo Buscaglia

 On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:


 http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=7f494613c5ad4db1b93e647adid=d79a6b6562e=82e5f08537

 Ron


 On 2/25/2015 8:06 PM, Neville wrote:

 G'day Sandee,

  I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed
 relentlessly in recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one
 hundred percent increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in
 one of the cities hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, or 60 percent,
 or even 90 percent, but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on
 the idiot box {TV}.  But what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100
 percent had actually been vaccinated against colds/flu's?  Smoke and mirror
 deception.  People are so dumb they can't figure it out, they get all they
 deserve as far as I'm concerned.  This is but one reason my attitude to
 things stands out like a sore thumb.  And if vaccinations are not taken
 voluntarily, as in school kids, they are forced upon them, or they and
 their parents are ostracised if they buck against it, with the bold faced
 lie that it's the unvaccinated who spread disease.  Hitler may have died in
 '45, but his legacy still lives on.

  N.

  Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
  From: oha...@juno.com
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the
 truth of the entire story being discussed -
  when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted
 these arguments will continue - the four bodies
  I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and
 spiritual they all comprise the whole  Take any one without
 understanding the connect between them all allows for misunderstanding -
 thanks again
  Cheers
  Sandee[image: Dolphin]
  Attitude is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Da Darrin
  The bigger picture is the earth is becoming over populated and they can't
just murder all of us so they are finding a way to shorten our lives and
make people sterile to slow the growth.

 First they add Soy to everything you consume, even your supplements, that
causes Obesity by slowing the thyroid, and all the health hazards
accompanying it. Including testosterone converted to oestrogen to slow
reproduction.

  Then comes the Shots with all their poisons and health hazard...

  The end result is a sick dieing populace that will not live long enough
to draw the social security they have been paying into all their lives. The
hope is it will not be noticed as it won't effect every one so they can say
people are living longer than ever in history ( the few that resist them
that is).

  There are a few of the dots connected. I'm sure there are many more.
Dave


On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 They try and foist the jabs on old folks here but I refused mine, but
 people who don't have their kids jabbed with the MMR vaccine are treated as
 though they don't care about their children and even blamed for measles
 outbreaks!  No-one seems to think that if all the other kids have HAD the
 jabs then they shouldn't GET the measles - but they still do!  No-one ever
 seems to connect the dotsDee

 Sent from my iPad

 On 26 Feb 2015, at 11:25, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:

 Amen to that N! I am working in a mask each and every day despite being
 healthy. My crime is not being vaccinated with the flu vaccine. The fact
 that there are approximately 200 know flu and flu like viruses and they
 choose three or four of the ones they guess will be most prevalent is not
 well known. The shots do not accomplish what they are supposedly trying to
 accomplish. I grew up at a time when there were many times fewer shots and
 all my children got theirs. I see now the problems they had as children may
 well have been tied to the practice. I shudder at the number of
 vaccinations babies and children receive now. The next step is already
 being proposed for a strong push for adult vaccination programs. ( I refuse
 to call them immunizations!) How long till all are mandated? With what I
 see in my community and work place it won't be long. Sadly disappointed in
 the full on blind trust and lack of questioning. Lack of doing any reading
 at all, not even the vaccine insert before offering to be injected or cut,
 poisoned and burned for cancer, or what you are actually swallowing before
 taking prescribed drugs blows my mind! Particularly in the younger
 generations with the so much information at hand. I will post articles on
 the corruption, conflicts of interest, bad science and history of the
 diseases we are asked to vaccinate for and it gets removed from the
 information boards promptly. We are our own worst enemies in censoring
 those we disagree with instead of engaging in honest discussion and
 evaluation of what we are doing.

 The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of
 knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in
 return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
 Leo Buscaglia

 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 G'day Sandee,

 I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed
 relentlessly in recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one
 hundred percent increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in
 one of the cities hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, or 60 percent,
 or even 90 percent, but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on
 the idiot box {TV}.  But what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100
 percent had actually been vaccinated against colds/flu's?  Smoke and mirror
 deception.  People are so dumb they can't figure it out, they get all they
 deserve as far as I'm concerned.  This is but one reason my attitude to
 things stands out like a sore thumb.  And if vaccinations are not taken
 voluntarily, as in school kids, they are forced upon them, or they and
 their parents are ostracised if they buck against it, with the bold faced
 lie that it's the unvaccinated who spread disease.  Hitler may have died in
 '45, but his legacy still lives on.

 N.

  Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
  From: oha...@juno.com
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the
 truth of the entire story being discussed -
  when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted
 these arguments will continue - the four bodies
  I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and
 spiritual they all comprise the whole  Take any one without
 understanding the connect between them all allows for misunderstanding -
 thanks again
  Cheers
  Sandee[image: Dolphin]
  Attitude is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal

Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Victor Cozzetto
If you guys want some good support for the horrors of vaccines, here is a
nice article from a few weeks ago:
http://www.westonaprice.org/press/studies-show-that-vaccinated-individuals-spread-disease/

And notice there are about twenty references to supporting articles.

Victor

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:



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 From: highergroun...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 05:25:20 -0600
 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 We are our own worst enemies in censoring those we disagree with instead
 of engaging in honest discussion and evaluation of what we are doing.

 ## Just to pick up on this point quickly if I may.  There was an anti
 vaccine woman who had booked venues to do talks/seminars here in Australia
 a few weeks ago and her venues were cancelled due to it being too
 controversial a subject...HELLO!!  How's that for honest discussion and
 evaluation?  A fine example of censorship in our Dictatorship.

 N.




RE: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Neville


From: highergroun...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 05:25:20 -0600
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

We are our own worst enemies in censoring those we disagree with instead of 
engaging in honest discussion and evaluation of what we are doing. 
## Just to pick up on this point quickly if I may.  There was an anti vaccine 
woman who had booked venues to do talks/seminars here in Australia a few weeks 
ago and her venues were cancelled due to it being too controversial a 
subject...HELLO!!  How's that for honest discussion and evaluation?  A fine 
example of censorship in our Dictatorship.
N.
  

Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Dee
Disgusting! The trouble is, all us people who think for ourselves are thought 
to be cranksDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 26 Feb 2015, at 12:49, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 From: highergroun...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 05:25:20 -0600
 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 We are our own worst enemies in censoring those we disagree with instead of 
 engaging in honest discussion and evaluation of what we are doing. 
 
 ## Just to pick up on this point quickly if I may.  There was an anti vaccine 
 woman who had booked venues to do talks/seminars here in Australia a few 
 weeks ago and her venues were cancelled due to it being too controversial a 
 subject...HELLO!!  How's that for honest discussion and evaluation?  A fine 
 example of censorship in our Dictatorship.
 
 N.
 


Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Ron

http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=7f494613c5ad4db1b93e647adid=d79a6b6562e=82e5f08537

Ron

On 2/25/2015 8:06 PM, Neville wrote:

G'day Sandee,

I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed 
relentlessly in recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a 
one hundred percent increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or 
flu's in one of the cities hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, 
or 60 percent, or even 90 percent, but a full *100* percent increase, 
openly admitted on the idiot box {TV}.  But what they *don't* tell you 
is how many of that 100 percent had actually been vaccinated against 
colds/flu's?  Smoke and mirror deception.  People are so dumb they 
can't figure it out, they get all they deserve as far as I'm 
concerned.  This is but one reason my attitude to things stands out 
like a sore thumb.  And if vaccinations are not taken voluntarily, as 
in school kids, they are forced upon them, or they and their parents 
are ostracised if they buck against it, with the bold faced lie that 
it's the unvaccinated who spread disease.  Hitler may have died in 
'45, but his legacy still lives on.


N.

 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 From: oha...@juno.com
 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is 
the truth of the entire story being discussed -
 when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted 
these arguments will continue - the four bodies
 I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and 
spiritual they all comprise the whole  Take any one without 
understanding the connect between them all allows for misunderstanding 
- thanks again

 Cheers
 SandeeDolphin
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com






 



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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Sandra George
 the unvaccinated who 
 spread disease.  Hitler may have died in '45, but his legacy still lives on.
 
 N.
 
  Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
  From: oha...@juno.com
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  
  Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the 
  truth of the entire story being discussed - 
  when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted these 
  arguments will continue - the four bodies
  I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual 
  they all comprise the whole  Take any one without understanding the 
  connect between them all allows for misunderstanding - thanks again
  Cheers 
  Sandee
  Attitude is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
  aliveagai...@yahoo.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Dee
Trouble is, not enough of us connect the dots and the rest think we're all 
crazy conspiracy theorists.Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 26 Feb 2015, at 15:57, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   The bigger picture is the earth is becoming over populated and they can't 
 just murder all of us so they are finding a way to shorten our lives and make 
 people sterile to slow the growth.
  
  First they add Soy to everything you consume, even your supplements, that 
 causes Obesity by slowing the thyroid, and all the health hazards 
 accompanying it. Including testosterone converted to oestrogen to slow 
 reproduction.
 
   Then comes the Shots with all their poisons and health hazard...
 
   The end result is a sick dieing populace that will not live long enough to 
 draw the social security they have been paying into all their lives. The hope 
 is it will not be noticed as it won't effect every one so they can say people 
 are living longer than ever in history ( the few that resist them that is).
 
   There are a few of the dots connected. I'm sure there are many more.
 Dave
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 They try and foist the jabs on old folks here but I refused mine, but people 
 who don't have their kids jabbed with the MMR vaccine are treated as though 
 they don't care about their children and even blamed for measles outbreaks!  
 No-one seems to think that if all the other kids have HAD the jabs then they 
 shouldn't GET the measles - but they still do!  No-one ever seems to connect 
 the dotsDee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 26 Feb 2015, at 11:25, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Amen to that N! I am working in a mask each and every day despite being 
 healthy. My crime is not being vaccinated with the flu vaccine. The fact 
 that there are approximately 200 know flu and flu like viruses and they 
 choose three or four of the ones they guess will be most prevalent is not 
 well known. The shots do not accomplish what they are supposedly trying to 
 accomplish. I grew up at a time when there were many times fewer shots and 
 all my children got theirs. I see now the problems they had as children may 
 well have been tied to the practice. I shudder at the number of 
 vaccinations babies and children receive now. The next step is already 
 being proposed for a strong push for adult vaccination programs. ( I refuse 
 to call them immunizations!) How long till all are mandated? With what I 
 see in my community and work place it won't be long. Sadly disappointed in 
 the full on blind trust and lack of questioning. Lack of doing any reading 
 at all, not even the vaccine insert before offering to be injected or cut, 
 poisoned and burned for cancer, or what you are actually swallowing before 
 taking prescribed drugs blows my mind! Particularly in the younger 
 generations with the so much information at hand. I will post articles on 
 the corruption, conflicts of interest, bad science and history of the 
 diseases we are asked to vaccinate for and it gets removed from the 
 information boards promptly. We are our own worst enemies in censoring 
 those we disagree with instead of engaging in honest discussion and 
 evaluation of what we are doing. 
 
 The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of 
 knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in 
 return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
 Leo Buscaglia
 
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 G'day Sandee,
 
 I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed relentlessly 
 in recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one hundred 
 percent increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in one of 
 the cities hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, or 60 percent, or 
 even 90 percent, but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on the 
 idiot box {TV}.  But what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100 
 percent had actually been vaccinated against colds/flu's?  Smoke and 
 mirror deception.  People are so dumb they can't figure it out, they get 
 all they deserve as far as I'm concerned.  This is but one reason my 
 attitude to things stands out like a sore thumb.  And if vaccinations are 
 not taken voluntarily, as in school kids, they are forced upon them, or 
 they and their parents are ostracised if they buck against it, with the 
 bold faced lie that it's the unvaccinated who spread disease.  Hitler may 
 have died in '45, but his legacy still lives on.
 
 N.
 
  Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
  From: oha...@juno.com
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  
  Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the 
  truth of the entire story being discussed - 
  when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted 
  these arguments will continue - the four bodies
  I am sure you know them

Re: RE: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Kenneth Taylor
Oh, you are talking about Dr Tenpenny aren't you?
http://epidemiological.net/2015/01/08/australia-is-not-welcoming-of-anti-vaccine-speakers-the-implications-for-freedom-of-speech/

Kenneth

Karen is Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise



Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread V
Amen to that N! I am working in a mask each and every day despite being
healthy. My crime is not being vaccinated with the flu vaccine. The fact
that there are approximately 200 know flu and flu like viruses and they
choose three or four of the ones they guess will be most prevalent is not
well known. The shots do not accomplish what they are supposedly trying to
accomplish. I grew up at a time when there were many times fewer shots and
all my children got theirs. I see now the problems they had as children may
well have been tied to the practice. I shudder at the number of
vaccinations babies and children receive now. The next step is already
being proposed for a strong push for adult vaccination programs. ( I refuse
to call them immunizations!) How long till all are mandated? With what I
see in my community and work place it won't be long. Sadly disappointed in
the full on blind trust and lack of questioning. Lack of doing any reading
at all, not even the vaccine insert before offering to be injected or cut,
poisoned and burned for cancer, or what you are actually swallowing before
taking prescribed drugs blows my mind! Particularly in the younger
generations with the so much information at hand. I will post articles on
the corruption, conflicts of interest, bad science and history of the
diseases we are asked to vaccinate for and it gets removed from the
information boards promptly. We are our own worst enemies in censoring
those we disagree with instead of engaging in honest discussion and
evaluation of what we are doing.

The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of
knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in
return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
Leo Buscaglia

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 G'day Sandee,

 I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed relentlessly
 in recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one hundred
 percent increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in one of
 the cities hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, or 60 percent, or even
 90 percent, but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on the idiot
 box {TV}.  But what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100 percent
 had actually been vaccinated against colds/flu's?  Smoke and mirror
 deception.  People are so dumb they can't figure it out, they get all they
 deserve as far as I'm concerned.  This is but one reason my attitude to
 things stands out like a sore thumb.  And if vaccinations are not taken
 voluntarily, as in school kids, they are forced upon them, or they and
 their parents are ostracised if they buck against it, with the bold faced
 lie that it's the unvaccinated who spread disease.  Hitler may have died in
 '45, but his legacy still lives on.

 N.

  Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
  From: oha...@juno.com
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the
 truth of the entire story being discussed -
  when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted
 these arguments will continue - the four bodies
  I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual
 they all comprise the whole  Take any one without understanding the
 connect between them all allows for misunderstanding - thanks again
  Cheers
  Sandee[image: Dolphin]
  Attitude is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
  aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread moxaman
Amen to that V.  I have been banned from a couple of boards for speaking out 
about vaccines.  I believe many boards such as Raw Story and Huffington Post 
are somehow supported by or policed by the Pharma industry.  The rabid hatred 
by posters against anyone who even questions the authority of the CDC or safety 
and efficacy of vaccines is mind blowing.  How can people be so ill informed?  
How can people blindly accept as dogma the fraudulent science behind vaccines?  
They are like rabid dogs.  It reminds me of Nazis who wish to conduct medical 
experiments on their captives.   They call for the jailing and worse of anyone 
questioning their authority.  It’s unreal, so much so that I think many are 
being paid by the industry to scare the populace into compliance.   They 
completely ignore the testimony by whistleblowers stating the obvious, that 
vaccines are dangerous and can cause autism and other neurological diseases, or 
that certain populations (such as African American children) had much higher 
levels of autism due to the MMR vaccine.   I would NEVER allow my kids to be 
vaccinated with these poisonous shots.  They contain some or all of the 
following; mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, MSG, antibiotics, GMO viral 
proteins, polysorbate 80, and much more.  Absolute insanity... we are losing 
our children to ASD (1 in 50 have the disorder now) and as a result the future 
of the human race.  

From: V 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus

Amen to that N! I am working in a mask each and every day despite being 
healthy. My crime is not being vaccinated with the flu vaccine. The fact that 
there are approximately 200 know flu and flu like viruses and they choose three 
or four of the ones they guess will be most prevalent is not well known. The 
shots do not accomplish what they are supposedly trying to accomplish. I grew 
up at a time when there were many times fewer shots and all my children got 
theirs. I see now the problems they had as children may well have been tied to 
the practice. I shudder at the number of vaccinations babies and children 
receive now. The next step is already being proposed for a strong push for 
adult vaccination programs. ( I refuse to call them immunizations!) How long 
till all are mandated? With what I see in my community and work place it won't 
be long. Sadly disappointed in the full on blind trust and lack of questioning. 
Lack of doing any reading at all, not even the vaccine insert before offering 
to be injected or cut, poisoned and burned for cancer, or what you are actually 
swallowing before taking prescribed drugs blows my mind! Particularly in the 
younger generations with the so much information at hand. I will post articles 
on the corruption, conflicts of interest, bad science and history of the 
diseases we are asked to vaccinate for and it gets removed from the information 
boards promptly. We are our own worst enemies in censoring those we disagree 
with instead of engaging in honest discussion and evaluation of what we are 
doing. 


The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of 
knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in 
return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
Leo Buscaglia 

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

  G'day Sandee, 

  I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed relentlessly in 
recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one hundred percent 
increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in one of the cities 
hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, or 60 percent, or even 90 percent, 
but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on the idiot box {TV}.  But 
what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100 percent had actually been 
vaccinated against colds/flu's?  Smoke and mirror deception.  People are so 
dumb they can't figure it out, they get all they deserve as far as I'm 
concerned.  This is but one reason my attitude to things stands out like a sore 
thumb.  And if vaccinations are not taken voluntarily, as in school kids, they 
are forced upon them, or they and their parents are ostracised if they buck 
against it, with the bold faced lie that it's the unvaccinated who spread 
disease.  Hitler may have died in '45, but his legacy still lives on.

  N.


   Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
   From: oha...@juno.com
   Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   
   Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the 
truth of the entire story being discussed - 
   when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted these 
arguments will continue - the four bodies
   I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual 
they all comprise the whole  Take any one without understanding the connect 
between them all allows

Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread moxaman
You are 100% spot on Neville.   We think we defeated the Nazis in WWII but 
guess what, they are still here!   The Pharma industry and the Biotech industry 
are FULL of them.  Forced vaccinations and GMO crops/foods are being forced on 
the populace and these evil companies are protected by the government no less.  
Unreal.

From: Neville 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CSCancer being a virus

G'day Sandee, 

I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed relentlessly in 
recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one hundred percent 
increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in one of the cities 
hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, or 60 percent, or even 90 percent, 
but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on the idiot box {TV}.  But 
what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100 percent had actually been 
vaccinated against colds/flu's?  Smoke and mirror deception.  People are so 
dumb they can't figure it out, they get all they deserve as far as I'm 
concerned.  This is but one reason my attitude to things stands out like a sore 
thumb.  And if vaccinations are not taken voluntarily, as in school kids, they 
are forced upon them, or they and their parents are ostracised if they buck 
against it, with the bold faced lie that it's the unvaccinated who spread 
disease.  Hitler may have died in '45, but his legacy still lives on.

N.


 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 From: oha...@juno.com
 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the truth 
 of the entire story being discussed - 
 when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted these 
 arguments will continue - the four bodies
 I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual they 
 all comprise the whole  Take any one without understanding the connect 
 between them all allows for misunderstanding - thanks again
 Cheers 
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Dee
They try and foist the jabs on old folks here but I refused mine, but people 
who don't have their kids jabbed with the MMR vaccine are treated as though 
they don't care about their children and even blamed for measles outbreaks!  
No-one seems to think that if all the other kids have HAD the jabs then they 
shouldn't GET the measles - but they still do!  No-one ever seems to connect 
the dotsDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 26 Feb 2015, at 11:25, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Amen to that N! I am working in a mask each and every day despite being 
 healthy. My crime is not being vaccinated with the flu vaccine. The fact that 
 there are approximately 200 know flu and flu like viruses and they choose 
 three or four of the ones they guess will be most prevalent is not well 
 known. The shots do not accomplish what they are supposedly trying to 
 accomplish. I grew up at a time when there were many times fewer shots and 
 all my children got theirs. I see now the problems they had as children may 
 well have been tied to the practice. I shudder at the number of vaccinations 
 babies and children receive now. The next step is already being proposed for 
 a strong push for adult vaccination programs. ( I refuse to call them 
 immunizations!) How long till all are mandated? With what I see in my 
 community and work place it won't be long. Sadly disappointed in the full on 
 blind trust and lack of questioning. Lack of doing any reading at all, not 
 even the vaccine insert before offering to be injected or cut, poisoned and 
 burned for cancer, or what you are actually swallowing before taking 
 prescribed drugs blows my mind! Particularly in the younger generations with 
 the so much information at hand. I will post articles on the corruption, 
 conflicts of interest, bad science and history of the diseases we are asked 
 to vaccinate for and it gets removed from the information boards promptly. We 
 are our own worst enemies in censoring those we disagree with instead of 
 engaging in honest discussion and evaluation of what we are doing. 
 
 The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of 
 knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in 
 return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
 Leo Buscaglia
 
 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 G'day Sandee,
 
 I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed relentlessly 
 in recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one hundred 
 percent increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in one of the 
 cities hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, or 60 percent, or even 90 
 percent, but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on the idiot box 
 {TV}.  But what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100 percent had 
 actually been vaccinated against colds/flu's?  Smoke and mirror deception.  
 People are so dumb they can't figure it out, they get all they deserve as 
 far as I'm concerned.  This is but one reason my attitude to things stands 
 out like a sore thumb.  And if vaccinations are not taken voluntarily, as in 
 school kids, they are forced upon them, or they and their parents are 
 ostracised if they buck against it, with the bold faced lie that it's the 
 unvaccinated who spread disease.  Hitler may have died in '45, but his 
 legacy still lives on.
 
 N.
 
  Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
  From: oha...@juno.com
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  
  Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the 
  truth of the entire story being discussed - 
  when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted these 
  arguments will continue - the four bodies
  I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual 
  they all comprise the whole  Take any one without understanding the 
  connect between them all allows for misunderstanding - thanks again
  Cheers 
  Sandee
  Attitude is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
  aliveagai...@yahoo.com
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-26 Thread Neville



Yeah, that's the one.

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:45:56 -0800
From: pli...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RE: CSCancer being a virus
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Oh, you are talking about Dr Tenpenny aren't you?

http://epidemiological.net/2015/01/08/australia-is-not-welcoming-of-anti-vaccine-speakers-the-implications-for-freedom-of-speech/

Kenneth
Karen is Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise
 From:Neville one.red...@hotmail.com
Date:Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:50
Subject:RE: CSCancer being a virus

 From: higherground13@gmail.comDate: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 05:25:20 -0600Subject: 
Re: CSCancer being a virusTo: silver-list@eskimo.comWe are our own worst 
enemies in censoring those we disagree with instead of engaging in honest 
discussion and evaluation of what we are doing. ## Just to pick up on this 
point quickly if I may.  There was an anti vaccine woman who had booked venues 
to do talks/seminars here in Australia a few weeks ago and her venues
 were cancelled due to it being too controversial a subject...HELLO!!  How's 
that for honest discussion and evaluation?  A fine example of censorship in 
our Dictatorship.N.
  

Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-25 Thread Sandra George
Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the truth 
of the entire story being discussed - 
when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted these 
arguments will continue - the four bodies
I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual they 
all comprise the whole    Take any one without understanding the connect 
between them all allows for misunderstanding - thanks again
Cheers 
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 23 Feb 2015, at 19:29, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason, 
animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without 
thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't 
follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes 
people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's face 
it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to believe in 
anything, they just are.

Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer virus and 
how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms.  For decades the 
experts? considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, back in the 30's 
Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer virus is  pleomorphic 
{changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so many cancers are missed 
early, because they don't know what to look for, and because you can't tell 
todays experts? anything they are probably still stuck in their Prehistoric 
thinking and in complete denial.

It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research {they 
are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a particular 
funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.

Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and 
institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and 
more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public.  If one doesn't 'toe the 
establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by 
legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.

N.

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
From: ddarrin...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when 
new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a 
given location.
Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 
Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
Dave










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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-25 Thread Brickeyk


In a message dated 2/25/2015 12:14:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
ron@gmail.com writes:

I  thought quantum entanglement had to do with particles. Are you sure you 
are  not fudging a little here with the Einstein thing?
I used quantum entaglement to treat an enlarged prostate with two nodes. I  
sent two fingernails to Johann Stedman in South Africa and he ran the  
frequencies for enlarged prostate - 12,000 miles away. I was checked by my 
local 
 Dr and he reported that everything was smooth and normal. Einstein's 
theory  worked for me.
 
My son was told by the Navy Dr that he had the same problem and to make an  
appt. with his health group Dr. This Dr said make an appt. with the surgeon 
in a  larger city. His appt. was set for the next week. I told him he could 
use  my GB4000 and to cut two fingernails. He just trimmed his fingernails 
so  all he had left was toenails. They should have the same DNA as 
fingernails. He  ran the programs using my 10 cent nail holder 24/7 until his 
appt. 
The  surgeon said everything is normal.
 
I then tried it for Barents Esophagus which my Dr said I have. No help.  
Johann said to treat for fibrosarcoma with my GB4000. I ran their  frequency 
24/7, and my Dr did an endoscope and took three biopsies. The  scars were 
there but are negative.
Brickey
 
 

Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-25 Thread Sandra George
Maybe Brickley the name of the modality you are talking about is also 
understood as - radionics - which is long distance abilities for healing via 
the universal energy of which we are all a part - this has also been known and 
practiced for
eons - check with our ancestors for verification on this one.Energy will 
always be energy or aka GOD 
Take good care of you 
Cheers
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 25 Feb 2015, at 13:54, brick...@aol.com wrote:

 
 
In a message dated 2/25/2015 12:14:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
ron@gmail.com writes:
I thought quantum entanglement had to do with particles. Are you sure you are 
not fudging a little here with the Einstein thing?
I used quantum entaglement to treat an enlarged prostate with two nodes. I sent 
two fingernails to Johann Stedman in South Africa and he ran the frequencies 
for enlarged prostate - 12,000 miles away. I was checked by my local Dr and he 
reported that everything was smooth and normal. Einstein's theory worked for me.
 
My son was told by the Navy Dr that he had the same problem and to make an 
appt. with his health group Dr. This Dr said make an appt. with the surgeon in 
a larger city. His appt. was set for the next week. I told him he could use my 
GB4000 and to cut two fingernails. He just trimmed his fingernails so all he 
had left was toenails. They should have the same DNA as fingernails. He ran the 
programs using my 10 cent nail holder 24/7 until his appt. The surgeon said 
everything is normal.
 
I then tried it for Barents Esophagus which my Dr said I have. No help. Johann 
said to treat for fibrosarcoma with my GB4000. I ran their frequency 24/7, and 
my Dr did an endoscope and took three biopsies. The scars were there but are 
negative.
Brickey
 
 






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RE: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-25 Thread Neville
G'day Sandee,
I think I have said before that flu vaccines have been pushed relentlessly in 
recent years here and yet last year {2014} there was a one hundred percent 
increase in hospital admissions for colds and/or flu's in one of the cities 
hospitals - WHAT THE...?  Not 40 percent, or 60 percent, or even 90 percent, 
but a full *100* percent increase, openly admitted on the idiot box {TV}.  But 
what they *don't* tell you is how many of that 100 percent had actually been 
vaccinated against colds/flu's?  Smoke and mirror deception.  People are so 
dumb they can't figure it out, they get all they deserve as far as I'm 
concerned.  This is but one reason my attitude to things stands out like a sore 
thumb.  And if vaccinations are not taken voluntarily, as in school kids, they 
are forced upon them, or they and their parents are ostracised if they buck 
against it, with the bold faced lie that it's the unvaccinated who spread 
disease.  Hitler may have died in '45, but his legacy still lives on.
N.

 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 From: oha...@juno.com
 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:09:15 -0400
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Hi There Neville thanks for this one, the last paragraph of same is the truth 
 of the entire story being discussed - 
 when the understanding of all the four bodies of humans is accepted these 
 arguments will continue - the four bodies
 I am sure you know them are - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual they 
 all comprise the whole    Take any one without understanding the connect 
 between them all allows for misunderstanding - thanks again
 Cheers 
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
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 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-25 Thread Ron

Hi Victor,

I always appreciate your views

I thought quantum entanglement had to do with particles. Are you sure 
you are not fudging a little here with the Einstein thing?


Maybe our thoughts are particles in our minds but  I don't believe that 
they go out and affect people or things outside our minds. Anyhow I've 
lost enough of mine already.


Prayer can help I have no doubt but not unless the prayee Is aware of it 
same as voodoo.

Ones mind taking a suggestion and then doing it's own thing.
Doesn't always work even on 'believers' so it must not be a law of physics.

Ron

On 2/24/2015 8:22 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
Hi Ron,

Not to open up yet another can of worms, but I guess you know that 
Einstein agreed with you...


And he was proven wrong. The concept of 'spooky action at a distance' is 
known as quantum entanglement, and it is well established.


Einstein's own experiments (EPR) proved it long ago, and countless 
others have confirmed it since in various ways.


More to your point, you can find medical trials showing the positive 
impact of prayer and meditation on healing - and I mean healing others - 
even in double blind tests.


But don't take my word for it. The information is out there.

Victor
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Ron ron@gmail.com 
mailto:ron@gmail.com wrote:


The mind is capable of controlling chem. and elect. flow in the body so 
how one thinks could cause affliction or healing.
What one thinks can not affect outside the body unless it is put into 
words that cause another person's mind to produce chemicals.
The latter is just my way of saying that I don't believe in hearsay  
'Mumbo Jumbo', uh whatever that is.


Ron

On 2/23/2015 8:18 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
Hi Neville, Dave,

I would have to take issue with your statement that 'thought does not 
have anything to do with anything.' We are far past the 'voodoo' and 
'magic' stigma at this point. Fields of science such as PNI 
(Psychoneuroimmunology) are well established on a firm bed of 
experimental results. Not to mention all the things happening in 
epigenetics. There is no question that our state of mind has a direct 
impact on our health.


We are more than mere machines. Food for thought: One of the most 
shocking displays of the power of the mind is found in those that suffer 
from split personality disorder. There are cases when one personality 
emerges, and instantly changes the eye color of the individual, causes 
scars to emerge on the body, and other radical physiological changes. 
And it all changes back when that persona changes.


A more romantic example is the link between two people in two different 
faraday cages. I'll save that for another time, if anyone is interested. 
Of course you can google such things.


I don't think you guys meant to sound so absolute, but I did not want to 
leave those comments hanging out there. And I thought this might be 
interesting to some people.


Victor



On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com 
mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason, 
animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct 
without thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are prone to cancer so 
it doesn't follow that thought has anything to do with anything, 
however, if it makes people feel better or more positive about things 
then that's fine, let's face it, people need 'something' to believe in, 
animals etc don't need to believe in anything, they just are.


Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer virus 
and how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms.  For 
decades the experts? considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, 
back in the 30's Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, 
cancer virus is  pleomorphic {changes shape/form}, and this is probably 
why so many cancers are missed early, because they don't know what to 
look for, and because you can't tell todays experts? anything they are 
probably still stuck in their Prehistoric thinking and in complete denial.


It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research 
{they are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a 
particular funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.


Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and 
institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more 
and more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public.  If one doesn't 
'toe the establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by 
legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.


N.


Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
From: ddarrin...@gmail.com mailto:ddarrin...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com

There is a theory

Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-24 Thread Dee
Another little gem of wisdom Neville and unfortunately, so trueDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 23 Feb 2015, at 23:29, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason, 
 animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without 
 thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't 
 follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes 
 people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's face 
 it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to believe 
 in anything, they just are.
 
 Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer virus and 
 how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms.  For decades the 
 experts? considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, back in the 30's 
 Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer virus is  
 pleomorphic {changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so many cancers 
 are missed early, because they don't know what to look for, and because you 
 can't tell todays experts? anything they are probably still stuck in their 
 Prehistoric thinking and in complete denial.
 
 It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research {they 
 are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a particular 
 funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.
 
 Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and 
 institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and 
 more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public.  If one doesn't 'toe the 
 establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by 
 legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.
 
 N.
 
 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 From: ddarrin...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when 
 new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a 
 given location.
 Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 
 Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
 Dave
 
 
 
 


Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-24 Thread Dee
I think the best line to take - being that there is no absolute proof available 
- is to keep an open mind.Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 24 Feb 2015, at 04:18, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Neville, Dave,
 
 I would have to take issue with your statement that 'thought does not have 
 anything to do with anything.' We are far past the 'voodoo' and 'magic' 
 stigma at this point. Fields of science such as PNI (Psychoneuroimmunology) 
 are well established on a firm bed of experimental results. Not to mention 
 all the things happening in epigenetics. There is no question that our state 
 of mind has a direct impact on our health.
 
 We are more than mere machines. Food for thought: One of the most shocking 
 displays of the power of the mind is found in those that suffer from split 
 personality disorder. There are cases when one personality emerges, and 
 instantly changes the eye color of the individual, causes scars to emerge on 
 the body, and other radical physiological changes. And it all changes back 
 when that persona changes.
 
 A more romantic example is the link between two people in two different 
 faraday cages. I'll save that for another time, if anyone is interested. Of 
 course you can google such things.
 
 I don't think you guys meant to sound so absolute, but I did not want to 
 leave those comments hanging out there. And I thought this might be 
 interesting to some people.
 
 Victor
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason, 
 animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without 
 thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't 
 follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes 
 people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's 
 face it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to 
 believe in anything, they just are.
 
 Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer virus and 
 how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms.  For decades 
 the experts? considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, back in the 
 30's Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer virus is  
 pleomorphic {changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so many cancers 
 are missed early, because they don't know what to look for, and because you 
 can't tell todays experts? anything they are probably still stuck in their 
 Prehistoric thinking and in complete denial.
 
 It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research {they 
 are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a particular 
 funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.
 
 Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and 
 institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and 
 more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public.  If one doesn't 'toe 
 the establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by 
 legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.
 
 N.
 
 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 From: ddarrin...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die 
 when new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells 
 at a given location.
 Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 
 Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
 Dave
 


Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-24 Thread Reece Maxey
Thinking requires an open mind, right?

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 24, 2015, at 2:36 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 I think the best line to take - being that there is no absolute proof 
 available - is to keep an open mind.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 24 Feb 2015, at 04:18, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Neville, Dave,
 
 I would have to take issue with your statement that 'thought does not have 
 anything to do with anything.' We are far past the 'voodoo' and 'magic' 
 stigma at this point. Fields of science such as PNI (Psychoneuroimmunology) 
 are well established on a firm bed of experimental results. Not to mention 
 all the things happening in epigenetics. There is no question that our state 
 of mind has a direct impact on our health.
 
 We are more than mere machines. Food for thought: One of the most shocking 
 displays of the power of the mind is found in those that suffer from split 
 personality disorder. There are cases when one personality emerges, and 
 instantly changes the eye color of the individual, causes scars to emerge on 
 the body, and other radical physiological changes. And it all changes back 
 when that persona changes.
 
 A more romantic example is the link between two people in two different 
 faraday cages. I'll save that for another time, if anyone is interested. Of 
 course you can google such things.
 
 I don't think you guys meant to sound so absolute, but I did not want to 
 leave those comments hanging out there. And I thought this might be 
 interesting to some people.
 
 Victor
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason, 
 animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without 
 thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't 
 follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes 
 people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's 
 face it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to 
 believe in anything, they just are.
 
 Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer virus 
 and how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms.  For 
 decades the experts? considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, 
 back in the 30's Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer 
 virus is  pleomorphic {changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so 
 many cancers are missed early, because they don't know what to look for, 
 and because you can't tell todays experts? anything they are probably 
 still stuck in their Prehistoric thinking and in complete denial.
 
 It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research 
 {they are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a 
 particular funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.
 
 Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and 
 institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and 
 more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public.  If one doesn't 'toe 
 the establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by 
 legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.
 
 N.
 
 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 From: ddarrin...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die 
 when new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of 
 cells at a given location.
 Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 
 Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
 Dave
 


Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-24 Thread Ron
The mind is capable of controlling chem. and elect. flow in the body so 
how one thinks could cause affliction or healing.
What one thinks can not affect outside the body unless it is put into 
words that cause another person's mind to produce chemicals.
The latter is just my way of saying that I don't believe in hearsay  
'Mumbo Jumbo', uh whatever that is.


Ron

On 2/23/2015 8:18 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:

Hi Neville, Dave,

I would have to take issue with your statement that 'thought does not 
have anything to do with anything.' We are far past the 'voodoo' and 
'magic' stigma at this point. Fields of science such as PNI 
(Psychoneuroimmunology) are well established on a firm bed of 
experimental results. Not to mention all the things happening in 
epigenetics. There is no question that our state of mind has a direct 
impact on our health.


We are more than mere machines. Food for thought: One of the most 
shocking displays of the power of the mind is found in those that 
suffer from split personality disorder. There are cases when one 
personality emerges, and instantly changes the eye color of the 
individual, causes scars to emerge on the body, and other radical 
physiological changes. And it all changes back when that persona changes.


A more romantic example is the link between two people in two 
different faraday cages. I'll save that for another time, if anyone is 
interested. Of course you can google such things.


I don't think you guys meant to sound so absolute, but I did not want 
to leave those comments hanging out there. And I thought this might be 
interesting to some people.


Victor



On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com 
mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:


Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and
reason, animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by
instinct without thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are
prone to cancer so it doesn't follow that thought has anything to
do with anything, however, if it makes people feel better or more
positive about things then that's fine, let's face it, people need
'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to believe in
anything, they just are.

Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer
virus and how it has the ability to morph into different
shapes/forms.  For decades the experts? considered only one form
of cancer, {monomorhic}, back in the 30's Rife and I believe
Kendall proved this is not so, cancer virus is  pleomorphic
{changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so many cancers are
missed early, because they don't know what to look for, and
because you can't tell todays experts? anything they are
probably still stuck in their Prehistoric thinking and in complete
denial.

It's a war out there today between those who truly understand
research {they are pretty much an extinct species today} and those
funded by a particular funding body who pay researchers to provide
acceptable answers.

Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be
conditioned and institutionalised by the system are a dying breed
and are becoming more and more ostracised and ridiculed by the
general public.  If one doesn't 'toe the establishment line' then
one will be forced to toe the line by
legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.

N.


Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
From: ddarrin...@gmail.com mailto:ddarrin...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com

There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that
normally die when new replacements are formed, fail to do so,
thereby a doubling of cells at a given location.
Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that.
Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with
thought.
Dave









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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-24 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Hi Ron,

Not to open up yet another can of worms, but I guess you know that Einstein 
agreed with you... 

And he was proven wrong. The concept of 'spooky action at a distance' is known 
as quantum entanglement, and it is well established.

Einstein's own experiments (EPR) proved it long ago, and countless others have 
confirmed it since in various ways.

More to your point, you can find medical trials showing the positive impact of 
prayer and meditation on healing - and I mean healing others - even in double 
blind tests.

But don't take my word for it. The information is out there.

Victor
Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The mind is capable of controlling chem. and elect. flow in the body so how 
 one thinks could cause affliction or healing.
 What one thinks can not affect outside the body unless it is put into words 
 that cause another person's mind to produce chemicals.
 The latter is just my way of saying that I don't believe in hearsay  'Mumbo 
 Jumbo', uh whatever that is.
 
 Ron
 
 On 2/23/2015 8:18 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
 Hi Neville, Dave,
 
 I would have to take issue with your statement that 'thought does not have 
 anything to do with anything.' We are far past the 'voodoo' and 'magic' 
 stigma at this point. Fields of science such as PNI (Psychoneuroimmunology) 
 are well established on a firm bed of experimental results. Not to mention 
 all the things happening in epigenetics. There is no question that our state 
 of mind has a direct impact on our health.
 
 We are more than mere machines. Food for thought: One of the most shocking 
 displays of the power of the mind is found   in those that suffer 
 from split personality disorder. There are cases when one personality 
 emerges, and instantly changes the eye color of the individual, causes scars 
 to emerge on the body, and other radical physiological changes. And it all 
 changes back when that persona changes.
 
 A more romantic example is the link between two people in two different 
 faraday cages. I'll save that for another time, if anyone is interested. Of 
 course you can google such things.
 
 I don't think you guys meant to sound so absolute, but I did not want to 
 leave those comments hanging out there. And I thought this might be 
 interesting to some people.
 
 Victor
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason, 
 animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without 
 thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't 
 follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes 
 people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's 
 face it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to 
 believe in anything, they just are.
 
 Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer virus 
 and how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms.  For 
 decades the experts? considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, 
 back in the 30's Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer 
 virus is  pleomorphic {changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so 
 many cancers are missed early, because they don't know what to look for, 
 and because you can't tell todays experts? anything they are probably 
 still stuck in their Prehistoric thinking and in complete denial.
 
 It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research 
 {they are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a 
 particular funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.
 
 Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and 
 institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and 
 more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public.  
 If one doesn't 'toe the establishment line' then one will be forced to toe 
 the line by legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.
 
 N.
 
 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 From: ddarrin...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die 
 when new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of 
 cells at a   given location.
 Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 
 Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
 Dave
 


Re: CSCancer being a virus thoughts and cancer

2015-02-23 Thread Victor Cozzetto
You are correct Judy.

If you are interested in reading more about such things, I have some links
and comments on this page:

7. Mind Over Matter http://3nf.com/cozzetto/can/7-mind-matter/

and related content here:
8. Laughter as Medicine http://3nf.com/cozzetto/can/8-laughter-medicine/

Powerful medicines, love, laughter, etc.
Victor

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
 wrote:

   There is quite a bit of objective evidence and study about attitude and
 things like cancer – lowered immune system?
 That is, with some, stuffing anger, holding in feelings, not being
 emotionally open   etc 
 I have had pets – from the ASPCA – who seem to have carried a past history
 with them into the present.
 Judy Down Maine





Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-23 Thread ASL raVen
Thanks, Dee, for your confirmation. Everytime I take probiotic, I feel
better. Getting tired of people thinking they know my body better than I
do.

RaVen

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 A prebiotic is food for probiotics and no, probiotics are not bad they are
 extremely good and necessary to lifeDee

 Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Feb 2015, at 16:46, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does anyone know what's the difference between prebiotic and probiotic --
 someone said to me that probiotic is not good? It's so tiring to see all
 these contradictions. Which should I be taking?

 I also need a* reliable list of what exact benefits of Colloidal Silver*
 does for people. Some friends want to know and I caught myself unable to
 recite as I wasn't exactly sure. I need to be more informed but want to
 make sure I'm getting from a truthful site. Thanks.

 RaVen




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Re: CSCancer being a virus thoughts and cancer

2015-02-23 Thread ASL raVen
As much as I support laughter has a wonderful medicine for the
body/heart/mind. I'm find too many so called comedy movies DUMB - it
seems Hollywood is running out of ideas how to tickle our funny bones these
days. In fact, I never though I'd do this, but I'm actually watching
classic black/white movies for witty lines and funny slap stick acting to
cheer me up. Most today's comedy movies are easily predictable, violent,
crude or just so corny I can't laugh.

RaVen

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com
wrote:

 You are correct Judy.

 If you are interested in reading more about such things, I have some links
 and comments on this page:

 7. Mind Over Matter http://3nf.com/cozzetto/can/7-mind-matter/

 and related content here:
 8. Laughter as Medicine http://3nf.com/cozzetto/can/8-laughter-medicine/

 Powerful medicines, love, laughter, etc.
 Victor

 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Judy Knowlton 
 judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:

   There is quite a bit of objective evidence and study about attitude
 and things like cancer – lowered immune system?
 That is, with some, stuffing anger, holding in feelings, not being
 emotionally open   etc 
 I have had pets – from the ASPCA – who seem to have carried a past
 history with them into the present.
 Judy Down Maine






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*Quote: *

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RE: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-23 Thread Nenah Sylver
I came into this conversation very late, and haven't read all the emails.
But here's my take on cancer:

 

For decades, people have been finding viruses as a causative link to cancer.
I discuss this in my Rife Handbook. Royal Rife extracted cancerous tumors in
rats and transferred a bit of tissue to healthy rats, who then developed
cancer. Researchers after him have also consistently found a virus in
cancerous tissue. There might be some debate as to whether the virus is
cause or effect, but I don't want to go there, because I think that the
answer is BOTH.

 

That said, there are MANY possible causes of cancer, or conditions that set
the stage for cancer, depending on the individual (including animal)
involved. They may include: unresolved emotional issues, exposure to
chemical toxins and/or electrosmog, lack of sufficient oxygen or nutrient
deficiencies. Any and all of these can cause unbalanced pH in different
parts of the body, as well as cellular malfunction and deranged metabolism. 

 

I find that there's rarely one single factor involved in contracting a
disease or degenerative condition.

 

Best,

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health

healing from cancer and other diseases 

with non-invasive, effective technology

suppressed by the medical cartel until recently

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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-23 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Hi Neville, Dave,

I would have to take issue with your statement that 'thought does not have
anything to do with anything.' We are far past the 'voodoo' and 'magic'
stigma at this point. Fields of science such as PNI (Psychoneuroimmunology)
are well established on a firm bed of experimental results. Not to mention
all the things happening in epigenetics. There is no question that our
state of mind has a direct impact on our health.

We are more than mere machines. Food for thought: One of the most shocking
displays of the power of the mind is found in those that suffer from split
personality disorder. There are cases when one personality emerges, and
instantly changes the eye color of the individual, causes scars to emerge
on the body, and other radical physiological changes. And it all changes
back when that persona changes.

A more romantic example is the link between two people in two different
faraday cages. I'll save that for another time, if anyone is interested. Of
course you can google such things.

I don't think you guys meant to sound so absolute, but I did not want to
leave those comments hanging out there. And I thought this might be
interesting to some people.

Victor



On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason,
 animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without
 thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't
 follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes
 people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's
 face it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to
 believe in anything, they just are.

 Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer virus
 and how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms.  For
 decades the experts? considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic},
 back in the 30's Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer
 virus is  pleomorphic {changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so
 many cancers are missed early, because they don't know what to look for,
 and because you can't tell todays experts? anything they are probably
 still stuck in their Prehistoric thinking and in complete denial.

 It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research
 {they are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a
 particular funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.

 Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and
 institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and
 more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public.  If one doesn't 'toe
 the establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by
 legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.

 N.

 --
 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 From: ddarrin...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die
 when new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of
 cells at a given location.
 Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that.
 Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
 Dave







RE: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-23 Thread Neville
LOL...No worries Victor, but I have to say my statement *is* an absolute, to me 
anyway.  There is a major distinction/difference between the human mental 
processes and the mental processes of an animal or a bird or an insect {if 
insects do indeed have what could be called a brain}.

Is it the Mayfly that only lives for a day in adult form?  They come into this 
world, do their business to perpetuate the species, then leave this world.  I 
doubt they do much thinking about anything, it's an instinctive inbuilt 
primeval drive that's all, no thinking involved.  Example, all the 
aforementioned would not consider attitude or personality or character traits 
or whatever from one to the next, they just are and they just seek and 
conquer.  H, thinking about that prompts me to add that it's a little like 
some humans in that regard I guess g.
I was just pointing out that humans, well some humans, have a need to believe 
in something {I won't go any further with that g} whereas four legged 
animals, birds and insects etc don't have a belief in anything, they just are 
and act accordingly, only intelligence can create the desire to believe in 
anything.  Stresses and a miriad other things wouldn't enter their thinking 
processes as it does the human species in the creation of cancer for example.
I agree, we as humans can instigate and/or perpetuate health issues for one 
reason or another, but I seriously doubt that occurs in nature.  I don't think 
the I think therefore I am applies to nature, they just am.  Sure, animals 
and birds, not so insects, could be taught something on a human level, as 
limited as that would be, but we as a species don't necessarily need to be 
taught anything, us being taught is only to maintain social cohesion or 
instil  social values etc, control in other words, but we would still have the 
capacity to think for ourselves on a conscious level without being taught 
anything, not so with the aforementioned.
Just the way I personally look at the world, I think therefore I am because I 
understand the life process.  I understand where I came from, I understand 
where I have been, I understand where I am and I understand where I am going 
eventually, I doubt any of these would be a consideration for animals etc etc 
g.  Intelligence vs instinct.  We may understand how to prolong life for 
example, nothing else understands that, they are born, they are, then they 
leave.
N.
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:18:23 +0900
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
From: victor.cozze...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Hi Neville, Dave,
I would have to take issue with your statement that 'thought does not have 
anything to do with anything.' We are far past the 'voodoo' and 'magic' stigma 
at this point. Fields of science such as PNI (Psychoneuroimmunology) are well 
established on a firm bed of experimental results. Not to mention all the 
things happening in epigenetics. There is no question that our state of mind 
has a direct impact on our health.
We are more than mere machines. Food for thought: One of the most shocking 
displays of the power of the mind is found in those that suffer from split 
personality disorder. There are cases when one personality emerges, and 
instantly changes the eye color of the individual, causes scars to emerge on 
the body, and other radical physiological changes. And it all changes back when 
that persona changes.
A more romantic example is the link between two people in two different faraday 
cages. I'll save that for another time, if anyone is interested. Of course you 
can google such things.
I don't think you guys meant to sound so absolute, but I did not want to leave 
those comments hanging out there. And I thought this might be interesting to 
some people.
Victor


On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:



Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason, 
animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without 
thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't 
follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes 
people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's face 
it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to believe in 
anything, they just are.
Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer virus and 
how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms.  For decades the 
experts? considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, back in the 30's 
Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer virus is  pleomorphic 
{changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so many cancers are missed 
early, because they don't know what to look for, and because you can't tell 
todays experts? anything they are probably still stuck in their Prehistoric 
thinking and in complete denial.
It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research

RE: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-23 Thread Neville
Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason, 
animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without 
thinking or reasoning anything.  Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't 
follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes 
people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's face 
it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to believe in 
anything, they just are.
Barry Lynes book The Cancer Cure that Worked explains the cancer virus and 
how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms.  For decades the 
experts? considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, back in the 30's 
Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer virus is  pleomorphic 
{changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so many cancers are missed 
early, because they don't know what to look for, and because you can't tell 
todays experts? anything they are probably still stuck in their Prehistoric 
thinking and in complete denial.
It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research {they 
are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a particular 
funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.
Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and 
institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and 
more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public.  If one doesn't 'toe the 
establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by 
legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.
N.

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
From: ddarrin...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when 
new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a 
given location.
Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 
Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
Dave



  
  

Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Dee
I think there is a growing number of doctor/scientists who are saying that 
cancer is allowed to progress because of the overgrowth of candida turning into 
a fungus .  This why it is important to keep up the numbers of the 'good' 
probiotics.  Always look after the gut because that is where it all goes 
wrong...dee 

Sent from my iPad

 On 21 Feb 2015, at 20:53, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
 could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
 mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to use or 
 learn
 how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything 
 that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I leave 
 you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or something 
 done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course I know 
 nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally by this 
 sort of thing.
 
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
 
 At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison'philmorrison...@gmail.com' wrote:
 
 Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were
 already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly 
 due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. 
 
 OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the
 Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this
 specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. 
 
 We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working
 overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to
 foreshadow our futures accordingly.
 
 I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every
 five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS 
 just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota
 Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,
 to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this
 bug hit like a freight train.
 
 I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS 
 nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). 
 The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking
 specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses
 cause cancer. So, get em early. 
 
 
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/
 
 
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Dee
All these posts are so interesting but scary! As I said before, it is easy to 
see where the filmmakers get their sci-fi 'monsters' fromdee 

Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Feb 2015, at 00:37, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 02/21/2015 03:53 PM, Sandra George wrote:
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be
 caused from a virus - I could debate this fact by
 bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the mind
 control as factors into this debate If one is
 inclined to use or learn how to control the mind, then
 one is supposed to be able to avert anything that is of
 negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ? I
 leave you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . .
 
 A virus is a package of genetic code that inserts itself
 into a living cell, forcing that cell to manufacture copies
 of the code and the package it came in. Some virus types
 have been pretty conclusively demonstrated to insert their
 code into a cell's genetics in a way that can (depending on
 exactly where the insertions take place) convert a normal
 cell into a cancer cell. Human papilloma virus is one of
 these types. This is what the Gardasil immunization was
 designed to prevent.
 
 A wonderful and terrifying example of such a cancer is the
 new species of single celled animal called HeLa. It was
 extracted from a cancer that killed Henrieta Lacks, a half
 century ago, but lives on, in bio labs, around the world.
 Since its genetics are almost entirely human (with some
 virus code thrown in), its biochemistry is very similar to
 that of humans and this makes it extremely useful for
 medical research.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa
 
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 Regards,
 
 John Popelish
 
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Sandra George
Thank you Doug, so very very true
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 21 Feb 2015, at 21:03, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote:

Besides that, thoughts create emotions and emotions can effect the efficiency 
of the immune system which in turn affects how it can protect us against 
pathogens.  

doug



On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

 Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't think 
 negative can it?
 
 
 On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
 
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
 could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
 mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to use or 
 learn
 how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything 
 that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I leave 
 you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Dee
I believe that this is caused by an outside influence like candida or maybe 
viruses ' turning off' the die off switch in some way, thus causing the cell to 
keep multiplying.  I read that substances in things like broccoli and avocados 
can 'reset' the die off switch...dee 

Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Feb 2015, at 18:14, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when 
 new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a 
 given location.
 Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 
 Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't 
 think negative can it?
 
 
 On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - 
 I could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of 
 the mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to 
 use or learn
 how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything 
 that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I 
 leave you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
 Sandeeemoji_u1f42c.png
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or 
 something done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course 
 I know nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally 
 by this sort of thing.
 
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
 
 At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison'philmorrison...@gmail.com' 
 wrote:
 
 Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were
 already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly 
 due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. 
 
 OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the
 Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this
 specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. 
 
 We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working
 overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to
 foreshadow our futures accordingly.
 
 I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every
 five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS 
 just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota
 Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,
 to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this
 bug hit like a freight train.
 
 I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS 
 nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). 
 The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking
 specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses
 cause cancer. So, get em early. 
 
 
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/
 
 
 
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 Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Da Darrin
There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die
when new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of
cells at a given location.
Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that.
Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
Dave

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
wrote:

 Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't
 think negative can it?


   On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com
 wrote:


 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus
 - I could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use
 of the mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined
 to use or learn
 how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything
 that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I
 leave you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . .
 Sandee[image: ]
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com



 On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

 FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or
 something done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course
 I know nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally
 by this sort of thing.


 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

 At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison'philmorrison...@gmail.com'
 wrote:

 Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were
 already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly
 due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut.

 OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the
 Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this
 specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell.

 We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working
 overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to
 foreshadow our futures accordingly.

 I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every
 five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS
 just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota
 Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,
 to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this
 bug hit like a freight train.

 I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS
 nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3).
 The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking
 specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses
 cause cancer. So, get em early.


 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/



 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
 Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
 Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour

 






Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Dee
A prebiotic is food for probiotics and no, probiotics are not bad they are 
extremely good and necessary to lifeDee

Sent from my iPad

 On 22 Feb 2015, at 16:46, ASL raVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Does anyone know what's the difference between prebiotic and probiotic -- 
 someone said to me that probiotic is not good? It's so tiring to see all 
 these contradictions. Which should I be taking? 
 
 I also need a reliable list of what exact benefits of Colloidal Silver does 
 for people. Some friends want to know and I caught myself unable to recite as 
 I wasn't exactly sure. I need to be more informed but want to make sure I'm 
 getting from a truthful site. Thanks. 
 
 RaVen 
 


Re: CSCancer being a virus thoughts and cancer

2015-02-22 Thread Sandra George
Thank you Judy for this one, there are so many who do not understand the 
different levels of creation and therefore
make mistakes as a result - to fully understand the human experience much 
learning, reading and experiences have
to make up the entire profile - thanks for this one it is greatly appreciated 
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 22 Feb 2015, at 14:43, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:

There is quite a bit of objective evidence and study about attitude and things 
like cancer – lowered immune system?
That is, with some, stuffing anger, holding in feelings, not being emotionally 
open   etc 
I have had pets – from the ASPCA – who seem to have carried a past history with 
them into the present.
Judy Down Maine
 
 
 
 
From: Da Darrin
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 1:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus
 
There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when 
new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a 
given location.
Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 
Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
Dave
 
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't think 
negative can it?


On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:


I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to use or 
learn
how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything that 
is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I leave you 
all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or something 
done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course I know 
nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally by this 
sort of thing.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison'philmorrison...@gmail.com' wrote:

Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were
already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly 
due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. 

OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the
Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this
specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. 

We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working
overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to
foreshadow our futures accordingly.

I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every
five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS 
just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota
Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,
to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this
bug hit like a freight train.

I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS 
nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). 
The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking
specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses
cause cancer. So, get em early. 


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/



-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules 
and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus thoughts and cancer

2015-02-22 Thread Judy Knowlton
There is quite a bit of objective evidence and study about attitude and things 
like cancer – lowered immune system?
That is, with some, stuffing anger, holding in feelings, not being emotionally 
open   etc 
I have had pets – from the ASPCA – who seem to have carried a past history with 
them into the present.
Judy Down Maine




From: Da Darrin 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 1:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus

There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when 
new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a 
given location.

Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 

Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.

Dave


On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't think 
negative can it?



  On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:




  I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to use or 
learn
  how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything 
that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I leave 
you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
  Sandee
  Attitude is everything !!!
  Sandra George
  Colloidal Silver Products
  Eye Drops  Topical Gel
  aliveagai...@yahoo.com



  On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

  FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or something 
done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course I know 
nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally by this 
sort of thing.


  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

  At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison'philmorrison...@gmail.com' wrote:

  Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were
  already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly 
  due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. 

  OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the
  Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this
  specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. 

  We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working
  overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to
  foreshadow our futures accordingly.

  I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every
  five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS 
  just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota
  Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,
  to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this
  bug hit like a freight train.

  I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS 
nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). 
  The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking
  specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses
  cause cancer. So, get em early. 


  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/



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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread ASL raVen
Does anyone know what's the difference between prebiotic and probiotic --
someone said to me that probiotic is not good? It's so tiring to see all
these contradictions. Which should I be taking?

I also need a* reliable list of what exact benefits of Colloidal Silver*
does for people. Some friends want to know and I caught myself unable to
recite as I wasn't exactly sure. I need to be more informed but want to
make sure I'm getting from a truthful site. Thanks.

RaVen


Re: CSCancer being a virus -- probiotics

2015-02-22 Thread Judy Knowlton

Probiotics are excellent and valuable – often necessary after taking an 
antibiotic and killing off our intestinal buglets.
People with some intestinal distress can often solve the problem with 
probiotics.  The older you are, the more helpful, I think. 
Judy Down Maine

From: ASL raVen 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 11:46 AM
To: Silver-List 
Subject: Re: CSCancer being a virus


Does anyone know what's the difference between prebiotic and probiotic -- 
someone said to me that probiotic is not good? It's so tiring to see all these 
contradictions. Which should I be taking? 


I also need a reliable list of what exact benefits of Colloidal Silver does for 
people. Some friends want to know and I caught myself unable to recite as I 
wasn't exactly sure. I need to be more informed but want to make sure I'm 
getting from a truthful site. Thanks. 


RaVen 



Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Sandra George
Hi there John - just re read my post of last night - it would have been clearer 
if I had said - like splitting the atom !!!
Nuf said
Sandee
Attitude is Everything
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel


 On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
 Thanks John, absolutely fascinating - like the atom bomb this can be used for 
 both positive and negative endeavors - here we have the possibility of truth 
 for many unexplained aspects of the health industry - I love our discussions 
 which usually bring out new views, information and the truly wondrous members 
 out
 of the woodwork - this contribution is appreciated by me thanks !!
 Attitude is everything
 
 On Feb 21, 2015, at 8:37 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 02/21/2015 03:53 PM, Sandra George wrote:
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be
 caused from a virus - I could debate this fact by
 bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the mind
 control as factors into this debate If one is
 inclined to use or learn how to control the mind, then
 one is supposed to be able to avert anything that is of
 negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ? I
 leave you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . .
 
 A virus is a package of genetic code that inserts itself
 into a living cell, forcing that cell to manufacture copies
 of the code and the package it came in. Some virus types
 have been pretty conclusively demonstrated to insert their
 code into a cell's genetics in a way that can (depending on
 exactly where the insertions take place) convert a normal
 cell into a cancer cell. Human papilloma virus is one of
 these types. This is what the Gardasil immunization was
 designed to prevent.
 
 A wonderful and terrifying example of such a cancer is the
 new species of single celled animal called HeLa. It was
 extracted from a cancer that killed Henrieta Lacks, a half
 century ago, but lives on, in bio labs, around the world.
 Since its genetics are almost entirely human (with some
 virus code thrown in), its biochemistry is very similar to
 that of humans and this makes it extremely useful for
 medical research.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 
 John Popelish
 
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Theresa
Google Resverital. It's the compound in red wine etc that fights cancer by 
allowing the cancer cells to die off. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 22, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 
 I believe that this is caused by an outside influence like candida or maybe 
 viruses ' turning off' the die off switch in some way, thus causing the cell 
 to keep multiplying.  I read that substances in things like broccoli and 
 avocados can 'reset' the die off switch...dee 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 22 Feb 2015, at 18:14, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die 
 when new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells 
 at a given location.
 Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that. 
 Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't 
 think negative can it?
 
 
 On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - 
 I could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of 
 the mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to 
 use or learn
 how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything 
 that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I 
 leave you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
 Sandeeemoji_u1f42c.png
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or 
 something done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course 
 I know nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally 
 by this sort of thing.
 
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
 
 At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison'philmorrison...@gmail.com' 
 wrote:
 
 Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were
 already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly 
 due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. 
 
 OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the
 Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this
 specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. 
 
 We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working
 overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to
 foreshadow our futures accordingly.
 
 I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every
 five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS 
 just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota
 Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,
 to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this
 bug hit like a freight train.
 
 I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS 
 nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). 
 The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking
 specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses
 cause cancer. So, get em early. 
 
 
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/
 
 
 
 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 
 Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Sandra George
Hi There Deborah, it is not through mind control, but through cellular memory, 
caused by stress and other aspects
of the other levels of creation - mind control only allows anyone who chooses 
to learn about it, how to clear the
block which leads to allowing for the entrance of negativity    This is the 
aspect of my own experience I forgot to
use, which is why the virus hit me so hard, I think a very good lesson and 
reminder of what I need to remember for 
the future.
Cheers
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
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On 22 Feb 2015, at 17:17, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:

I asked you an honest question...how does a baby or a dog get cancer if you 
think it is thru mind control?


On Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:46 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:


Thank you Doug, so very very true
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
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On 21 Feb 2015, at 21:03, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote:

Besides that, thoughts create emotions and emotions can effect the efficiency 
of the immune system which in turn affects how it can protect us against 
pathogens.  

doug



On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

 Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't think 
 negative can it?
 
 
 On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
 
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
 could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
 mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to use or 
 learn
 how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything 
 that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I leave 
 you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-22 Thread Deborah Gerard
I asked you an honest question...how does a baby or a dog get cancer if you 
think it is thru mind control? 

 On Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:46 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com 
wrote:
   

 Thank you Doug, so very very true
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 21 Feb 2015, at 21:03, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote:

Besides that, thoughts create emotions and emotions can effect the efficiency 
of the immune system which in turn affects how it can protect us against 
pathogens.  

doug



On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

 Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't think 
 negative can it?
 
 
 On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
 
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
 could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
 mind control as factors into this debate     If one is inclined to use or 
 learn
 how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything 
 that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?    I leave 
 you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-21 Thread Kenneth Taylor
Stress can cause sickness.
Babies can be stressed when hungry or without a diaper change. Some animals 
become stressed when left alone. 

Kenneth

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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-21 Thread polo
Besides that, thoughts create emotions and emotions can effect the efficiency 
of the immune system which in turn affects how it can protect us against 
pathogens.  

doug



On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

 Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't think 
 negative can it?
 
 
 On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 
 
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
 could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
 mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to use or 
 learn
 how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything 
 that is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I leave 
 you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !!!
 Sandra George
 Colloidal Silver Products
 Eye Drops  Topical Gel
 aliveagai...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-21 Thread Sandra George
Thanks John, absolutely fascinating - like the atom bomb this can be used for 
both positive and negative endeavors - here we have the possibility of truth 
for many unexplained aspects of the health industry - I love our discussions 
which usually bring out new views, information and the truly wondrous members 
out
of the woodwork - this contribution is appreciated by me thanks !!
Attitude is everything

 On Feb 21, 2015, at 8:37 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 02/21/2015 03:53 PM, Sandra George wrote:
 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be
 caused from a virus - I could debate this fact by
 bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the mind
 control as factors into this debate If one is
 inclined to use or learn how to control the mind, then
 one is supposed to be able to avert anything that is of
 negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ? I
 leave you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . .
 
 A virus is a package of genetic code that inserts itself
 into a living cell, forcing that cell to manufacture copies
 of the code and the package it came in. Some virus types
 have been pretty conclusively demonstrated to insert their
 code into a cell's genetics in a way that can (depending on
 exactly where the insertions take place) convert a normal
 cell into a cancer cell. Human papilloma virus is one of
 these types. This is what the Gardasil immunization was
 designed to prevent.
 
 A wonderful and terrifying example of such a cancer is the
 new species of single celled animal called HeLa. It was
 extracted from a cancer that killed Henrieta Lacks, a half
 century ago, but lives on, in bio labs, around the world.
 Since its genetics are almost entirely human (with some
 virus code thrown in), its biochemistry is very similar to
 that of humans and this makes it extremely useful for
 medical research.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa
 
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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-21 Thread John Popelish

On 02/21/2015 03:53 PM, Sandra George wrote:

I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be
caused from a virus - I could debate this fact by
bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the mind
control as factors into this debate If one is
inclined to use or learn how to control the mind, then
one is supposed to be able to avert anything that is of
negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ? I
leave you all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . .


A virus is a package of genetic code that inserts itself
into a living cell, forcing that cell to manufacture copies
of the code and the package it came in. Some virus types
have been pretty conclusively demonstrated to insert their
code into a cell's genetics in a way that can (depending on
exactly where the insertions take place) convert a normal
cell into a cancer cell. Human papilloma virus is one of
these types. This is what the Gardasil immunization was
designed to prevent.

A wonderful and terrifying example of such a cancer is the
new species of single celled animal called HeLa. It was
extracted from a cancer that killed Henrieta Lacks, a half
century ago, but lives on, in bio labs, around the world.
Since its genetics are almost entirely human (with some
virus code thrown in), its biochemistry is very similar to
that of humans and this makes it extremely useful for
medical research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa

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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-21 Thread Deborah Gerard
Can you tell me why babies, dog, cat's, horses get cancer? A baby can't think 
negative can it? 

 On Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:26 PM, Sandra George oha...@juno.com 
wrote:
   

 I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
mind control as factors into this debate     If one is inclined to use or 
learn
how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything that 
is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?    I leave you 
all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or something 
done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course I know 
nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally by this 
sort of thing.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison'philmorrison...@gmail.com' wrote:

Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were
already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly 
due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. 

OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the
Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this
specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. 

We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working
overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to
foreshadow our futures accordingly.

I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every
five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS 
just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota
Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,
to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this
bug hit like a freight train.

I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS 
nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). 
The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking
specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses
cause cancer. So, get em early. 


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/



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Re: CSCancer being a virus

2015-02-21 Thread Sandra George
I have read that they are thinking that cancer can be caused from a virus - I 
could debate this fact by bringing the human emotions and lack of use of the 
mind control as factors into this debate If one is inclined to use or 
learn
how to control the mind, then one is supposed to be able to avert anything that 
is of negative value and exactly what is this in real terms ?I leave you 
all to deliberate . . .  . .  . . . . 
Sandee
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops  Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:32, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

FWIW a 24 flu is usually food poisoning. Can be something we did or something 
done to our food at a restaurant or friends place etc.  of course I know 
nothing about your specifics, but we all get blindsided occasionally by this 
sort of thing.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

At Feb 21, 2015, 3:19:15 PM, Phil Morrison'philmorrison...@gmail.com' wrote:

Super Bug is an overstatement, since most victims were
already weakened with compromised immune systems mostly 
due anti-biotics killing both good and bad bacteria in the gut. 

OTOH there is a short list of silver resistant bacteria, and the
Super Bug strain happens to be one of them. Whether this
specific bug is silver resistant only time will tell. 

We know the buzzards back at the Lizzard Lab are working
overtime developing silver resistant bugs, so we have to
foreshadow our futures accordingly.

I've been on silver for many years and still get hit about every
five years. Recently, a 24 hour bug hit and laid me low. CS 
just wasn't up to dealing with this bug. Fortunately, the Sota
Silver Pulser kicked in, along with plenty of minerals and water,
to hold the bug to under 48 hours. I was lucky, because this
bug hit like a freight train.

I've peg a web site below which shows electron microscope photos of CS 
nanoparticles killing HIV viruses (Figure 3). 
The researchers determined that it was bare silver attacking
specific sites on the virus, which is good for our team. Viruses
cause cancer. So, get em early. 


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1190212/



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CSCancer Guidance Videos

2014-10-18 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Hi All,

There is an excellent free video series going on right now that provides a
lot of great information for fighting cancer, and whatever else may ail
you. I actually got this link from the Bob Beck mailing list:

http://www.thetruthaboutcancer.com/

It is eleven one hour videos, and they have posted the first six so far. I
think many of you will find this information helpful and encouraging.

Again, this is free information. And there are paid options for which
include other media and transcripts.

I think this is an excellent series so far, and it deserves our attention -
or we deserve it ;-)

Hope you find it helpful.

Victor


CSCancer Natural Cures Video

2014-05-28 Thread Melly Bag
The link given by Tara did not work for me.  Here is another link from natural 
news where you can watch the preview
and also register.



www.naturalnews.com/045253_cancer_documentary_prevention_natural_cures.html  

 
Melly

Re: CSCancer cure 19 July

2013-07-20 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thanks lynne...dee



From: Lynne Toll lifeisg...@tds.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:27:58 -0400
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCancer cure 19 July
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:28:05 -0700 (PDT)

hi ma, this is the link i posted.  it's a very informative documentary on
cancer.  has gotten lots of attention, offers plenty of credibility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBUGVkmmwbk

best,
lynne


On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:14 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

 Can it be reposted please?  I seem not to have received the original post.
 Thanks.
 MA
 
   
  
  
  
 
From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSCancer cure 19 July
   
  
 
 Thanks for posting this one Lynne - it is of huge importance - I will make
 sure it is circulated to all the people I know and work with - blessings
 Sandee 
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Re: CSCancer cure 19 July

2013-07-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Yes -- thank you Lynne.
MA




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Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: CSCancer cure 19 July
 


Re: CSCancer cure 19 July 
Thanks lynne...dee



From: Lynne Toll lifeisg...@tds.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:27:58 -0400
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCancer cure 19 July
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:28:05 -0700 (PDT)

hi ma, this is the link i posted.  it's a very informative documentary on 
cancer.  has gotten lots of attention, offers plenty of credibility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBUGVkmmwbk

best,
lynne


On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:14 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:


Can it be reposted please?  I seem not to have received the original post.
Thanks.
MA


 
 

 

  From:Sandee George oha...@juno.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:19 PM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer cure 19 July
 
 

Thanks for posting this one Lynne - it is of huge importance - I will make 
sure it is circulated to all the people I know and work with - blessings
Sandee 
Attitude is everything !
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www.sandeemagic.organogold.com/r/US/ 
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RE: CSCancer cure 19 July

2013-07-20 Thread Gidon Kenar
cancertutor.com seems to be another great source for info regarding cancer 
cure...
Gidon


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Re: CSCancer cure 19 July

2013-07-19 Thread Sandee George
Thanks for posting this one Lynne - it is of huge importance - I will make sure 
it is circulated to all the people I know and work with - blessings
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Re: CSCancer cure 19 July

2013-07-19 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Can it be reposted please?  I seem not to have received the original post.
Thanks.
MA




 From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer cure 19 July
 

Thanks for posting this one Lynne - it is of huge importance - I will make 
sure it is circulated to all the people I know and work with - blessings
Sandee 
Attitude is everything !
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Re: CSCancer cure 19 July

2013-07-19 Thread Lynne Toll
hi ma, this is the link i posted.  it's a very informative documentary on 
cancer.  has gotten lots of attention, offers plenty of credibility.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBUGVkmmwbk

best,
lynne


On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:14 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

 Can it be reposted please?  I seem not to have received the original post.
 Thanks.
 MA
 
 From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:19 PM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer cure 19 July
 
 Thanks for posting this one Lynne - it is of huge importance - I will make 
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Re: CSCancer cure 19 July

2013-07-19 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Thank you, Lynne.
MA




 From: Lynne Toll lifeisg...@tds.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer cure 19 July
 


hi ma, this is the link i posted.  it's a very informative documentary on 
cancer.  has gotten lots of attention, offers plenty of credibility.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBUGVkmmwbk


best,
lynne




On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:14 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

Can it be reposted please?  I seem not to have received the original post.
Thanks.
MA




 From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer cure 19 July
 

Thanks for posting this one Lynne - it is of huge importance - I will make 
sure it is circulated to all the people I know and work with - blessings
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Re: CSCancer is a Metabolic Disease

2012-12-25 Thread PT Ferrance
Anyone interested in this topic might find the books by Carmi Hazen at 
www.lulu.com of interest.
PT





From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, December 24, 2012 11:57:11 AM
Subject: CSCancer is a Metabolic Disease

Cancer is  a Metabolic Disease
Reference:  Thomas Seyfried,  PhD Cancer as a Metabolic Disease
You thought cancer was 500 different diseases.  Cancer of the  pancreas, the 
prostate, the breast, the colon and on and on.  Maybe  not.  Our current method 
of treatment is to operate, radiate and poison  the cancer.  Operations work. 
But radiation and chemo have sad  limitations.  You get poisoned in the process 
and the cancer is only  slowed down marginally.  Over the last 30 years, we 
have 
made only  incremental improvements and despite much ballyhooing, our screening 
has  not really saved many lives.  A close look at the data shows that all  our 
screening work has not resulted in a decrease in the numbers of  stage 3 and 4 
cancers, as would be expected if we were really finding  things early and 
eliminating them.  That’s troubling.
Maybe we need to think about cancer differently and go back to the  research 
bench.  If we can uncover the basic science of how cancer  develops, we might 
come up with different ways of treating it.   Let me  take you on a short 
journey of explanation and exploration and see if  this makes sense to you. 
Otto Warburg was awarded a Nobel Prize back in the 1930s for the observation of 
cancerous cells being able to  live in the absence of oxygen.  Why is that?   
Well, fast forward 80  years and explain what he observed.   All cancers have a 
change in their  basic metabolism. They go from consuming oxygen and glucose to 
make 38  ATP (that’s called oxidation)  to burning glucose without oxygen but 
only getting 2 ATP molecules.   That’s called  fermentation.It’s much less 
efficient.  It also makes the cancer  cell a voracious consumer of glucose.  
 Maybe then cancer is not 500  different diseases in 500 different tissues.  
Maybe it is one disease  that happens again and again in 500 different tissues, 
and is in fact  the same disease of disordered metabolism in all situations.  
It 
varies  only by its expression based on the tissue it emerges from.  The key  
disorder would then be the dysfunctional process of energy breakdown.Look 
at 
mitochondria in cancer under a microscope and see what you see.  You find 
disordered, disorganized mitochondria that  can’t make energy anymore. Is 
the first step to cancer a defect in the mitochondria?  Is that the  common 
thread of all cancers?  Is that what makes cancers such voracious  sugar eaters 
and inefficient energy burners?
Now, if that’s the case, the cancer should be vulnerable to  manipulation of 
its 
environment.  What would happen if you took away the  glucose that it needed to 
live?   Human cells love glucose too, but  normal human cells can learn to live 
with other energy nutrients.   Our  normal cells with properly functioning 
mitochondria, can live with  ketones, for example.  But that’s not what we like 
to eat.  We much  prefer to eat sugar.   And the more sugar we eat, perhaps the 
more food  we are giving to our cancer cells.  In fact, as we become more and 
more  overweight in America, and our average blood sugar rises higher and  
higher, we seem to also be getting more and more cancer.  Is that  coincidence 
or cause?  
Hence our reference in the book above.   Dr Sefried has taken the  most 
aggressive cancer of all, the brain cancer called gliobastoma, a  cancer that 
typically kills its owners in just months, and has showed  that he can turn it 
into a much slower disease and even establish a  remission.  He does it by 
feeding the victims a specialized diet that  makes ketones in abundance, no 
carbs or glucose and giving them blocking  drugs that block the fermentation 
process.  The cancer cells just fade  away and can’t recover.  Without glucose 
they starve and the blocking  drugs make their remaining energy sources go 
catastrophically down.
WWW.  What will work for me?  The moral of this story is that all  cancer 
thrives on glucose.  Without glucose it can’t grow.  The more  overweight I am, 
the higher my blood glucose, the more welcoming my body  is to nurturing a new 
cancer.   The more sugar I eat, the more energy I  provide to the potentially 
cancerous cells within me.  I think I need  to eat less sugar.  And lose 
weight? 
How about you? © 2012 Brookfield Longevity 


Re: CSCancer is a Metabolic Disease

2012-12-24 Thread Sandee George
Season greetings to all - Dan I totally and completely agree with your 
statement in this one, I think the first place we need to start is in the minds 
of humans generally - disease of the body is manifested as disease in the mind 
- as science is proving the mind is the controlling force which links us to 
Universal energy which is commonly called GOD -
Take very good care of you and yours and have a wonderful happy and enjoyable 
Season
Warmest regards
Sandee
Attitude is everything !
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Re: CSCancer is a Metabolic Disease

2012-12-24 Thread Dan Nave
Hi Sandee,

Thanks, and same to you.

To clarify though, this is an article sent to me from a free health
wellness newsletter called Brookfield Longevity.  At the very least, we
need open-mindedness in our medical practitioners, researchers, and
advisers.

Dan

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Season greetings to all - Dan I totally and completely agree with your
 statement in this one, I think the first place we need to start is in the
 minds of humans generally - disease of the body is manifested as disease in
 the mind - as science is proving the mind is the controlling force which
 links us to Universal energy which is commonly called GOD -
 Take very good care of you and yours and have a wonderful happy and
 enjoyable Season
 Warmest regards
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !
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 sandeemagic.organogold.com





Re: CSCancer is a Metabolic Disease

2012-12-24 Thread Sandee George
Hi Dan - no matter where it comes from - an open mind is the only way to go for 
every and any thing
Have a wonderful joyful, hope not t cold time
Regards
SAndee
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Re: CSCancer is a Metabolic Disease

2012-12-24 Thread Joyce Miller
I couldn't agree more with this statement: disease of the body is
manifested as disease in the mind - science is proving the mind is the
controlling force which links us to Universal energy which is commonly
called GOD.

This is something to really think about. But I have an additional
thought about it. As a two time cancer survivor, and knowing I did not
wish those two cancers on myself, I am thinking that my mind did not
just create those cancers. I do know my mind is doing my work and
keeping me free of cancer, but I have always had trouble with the idea
that I brought those cancers to myself.

Looking back, I know that I did not think of health. I was working,
working hard, and taking life as it came. I was not on any meds, and
both cancers were quite serious, the second more so than the first.

Now since then, I have believed that the cancers came into my life for
a reason, and that reason was probably to make me more conscious of
seeing myself as very healthy and doing work that is beneficial to
both me and others. Before those two cancers, I never saw myself as
sick, but I also did not take any steps to affirm my good health. I do
now. It's been 18 and 14 years since those cancers. I see myself and
know myself to be very very healthy.

Joyce

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 Season greetings to all - Dan I totally and completely agree with your
 statement in this one, I think the first place we need to start is in the
 minds of humans generally - disease of the body is manifested as disease in
 the mind - as science is proving the mind is the controlling force which
 links us to Universal energy which is commonly called GOD -
 Take very good care of you and yours and have a wonderful happy and
 enjoyable Season
 Warmest regards
 Sandee
 Attitude is everything !
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Re: CSCancer is a Metabolic Disease

2012-12-24 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Joyce - thanks for yours - yes gratitude is the prime base for us to 
work our minds from and you have achieved this, as you say, with the challenges 
you entered into - this has been your wonderful lesson long may you be grateful 
for everything both positive and negative as there are always lessons
to be learned from both - this is what life is about I think !
May you have a wonderful time over the Season, I hope it is not too cold where 
you are, be blessed, joyful and happy
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Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-26 Thread Ronnie Joseph
Thanks PT
 
That is part of the problem. I have heard from someone in Surrey and may be 
able to bypass the mail and the distance
 
Thank you

Ronnie 


Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-26 Thread Smitty
You are so right Neville.
I've seen it time and again. Ones I have tried to help
will *ask their doc about it* !

Smitty


On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:

  It took me a long time to come to the realisation that most people have no
 desire in taking any responsibility for their own health and wellbeing, they
 much prefer to TOTALLY rely on the doctor and the chemist shop.

 Now when friends etc mention any ailment they may be afflicted with I show
 the same interest in them and their ailment as they show in EIS - NONE!
 Don't wanna know, I keep telling my other half I'd like to toss them 50
 cents so they can go ring someone who cares.

 In fact, the other day the daughters neighbours little kid had
 conjunctivitis, and had been treating it for a week with chemist crap, I
 told the young father I could fix it in 24 hours with EIS...he didn't
 respond, and I didn't push it, it's his kid not mine, but it's really hard
 to walk away knowing the poor kid could be fixed in a flash.  That's life I
 guess, so be it, me and my family are OK, and in the real world that's all
 it comes down to at the end of the day.

 You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think.

 N.


  Subject: Re: CSCancer question
  From: d...@deetroy.org
  Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:52:15 +0100
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
  I've almost given up trying Deborah. A close friend of mine will use
 silver (after HUGE persuasion on my part) but only up to a point. If
 whatever she has doesn't go after 2 or 3 swigs, she is straight off to the
 docs for ABX! She won't listen to anything I say regarding bringing her
 sugars down naturally; she is on statins, no matter how much detrimental
 information I give her. She doesn't need them either, because her
 cholesterol is only 4. She is also on blood pressure meds even though her
 blood pressure is well within the 'normal' range. All this because her doc
 says as she is diabetic, it is best to be on the SAFE side! She has got
 progressively worse; the pain she is in with her skin has increased and now
 her knee joint has got so bad she can't walk and needs an op. She still
 keeps taking it all though - 'because the doctor said so!' Jeez! dee
 
 




Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-25 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I've almost given up trying Deborah.  A close friend of mine will use silver 
(after HUGE persuasion on my part) but only up to a point.  If whatever she has 
doesn't go after 2 or 3 swigs, she is straight off to the docs for ABX!  She 
won't listen to anything I say regarding bringing her sugars down naturally; 
she is on statins, no matter how much detrimental information I give her.  She 
doesn't need them either, because her cholesterol is only 4.  She is also on 
blood pressure meds even though her blood pressure is well within the 'normal' 
range.  All this because her doc says as she is diabetic, it is best to be on 
the SAFE side!  She has got progressively worse; the pain she is in with her 
skin has increased and now her knee joint has got so bad she can't walk and 
needs an op.  She still keeps taking it all though - 'because the doctor said 
so!'  Jeez!  dee


On 25 Jun 2011, at 03:49, Deborah Gerard wrote:

 I'm often called a know it all because I have alot of answers for health 
 problems.  I hungered for knowledge to help other's and myself but it's a 
 rareity for people to listen seems like.
 
 From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:43 PM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer question
 
 


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RE: CSCancer question

2011-06-25 Thread Donna M Lewis
I'm diabetic (borderline) and my doc is really frustrated with me because I
point blank refuse to take her statins.  I also refuse her thyroid meds
unless she prescribes me Armor - but she never prescribes me the right dose
because heaven forbid that I might know what dose I need better than her!!!
If it wasn't for the fact that I don't have insurance just now so I haven't
seen her in a while, I'm sure she'd eventually get tired of me and fire
me...lol.

Donna

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCancer question

I've almost given up trying Deborah.  A close friend of mine will use silver
(after HUGE persuasion on my part) but only up to a point.  If whatever she
has doesn't go after 2 or 3 swigs, she is straight off to the docs for ABX!
She won't listen to anything I say regarding bringing her sugars down
naturally; she is on statins, no matter how much detrimental information I
give her.  She doesn't need them either, because her cholesterol is only 4.
She is also on blood pressure meds even though her blood pressure is well
within the 'normal' range.  All this because her doc says as she is
diabetic, it is best to be on the SAFE side!  She has got progressively
worse; the pain she is in with her skin has increased and now her knee joint
has got so bad she can't walk and needs an op.  She still keeps taking it
all though - 'because the doctor said so!'  Jeez!  dee


On 25 Jun 2011, at 03:49, Deborah Gerard wrote:

 I'm often called a know it all because I have alot of answers for health
problems.  I hungered for knowledge to help other's and myself but it's a
rareity for people to listen seems like.
 
 From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:43 PM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer question
 
 


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Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-25 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Good for you Donna!  dee


On 25 Jun 2011, at 11:56, Donna M Lewis wrote:

 I'm diabetic (borderline) and my doc is really frustrated with me because I
 point blank refuse to take her statins.  I also refuse her thyroid meds
 unless she prescribes me Armor - but she never prescribes me the right dose
 because heaven forbid that I might know what dose I need better than her!!!
 If it wasn't for the fact that I don't have insurance just now so I haven't
 seen her in a while, I'm sure she'd eventually get tired of me and fire
 me...lol.
 
 Donna
 


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RE: CSCancer question

2011-06-25 Thread Neville Munn

It took me a long time to come to the realisation that most people have no 
desire in taking any responsibility for their own health and wellbeing, they 
much prefer to TOTALLY rely on the doctor and the chemist shop. 
 
Now when friends etc mention any ailment they may be afflicted with I show the 
same interest in them and their ailment as they show in EIS - NONE!  Don't 
wanna know, I keep telling my other half I'd like to toss them 50 cents so they 
can go ring someone who cares.
 
In fact, the other day the daughters neighbours little kid had conjunctivitis, 
and had been treating it for a week with chemist crap, I told the young father 
I could fix it in 24 hours with EIS...he didn't respond, and I didn't push it, 
it's his kid not mine, but it's really hard to walk away knowing the poor kid 
could be fixed in a flash.  That's life I guess, so be it, me and my family are 
OK, and in the real world that's all it comes down to at the end of the day.
 
You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think.
 
N.
 
 
 Subject: Re: CSCancer question
 From: d...@deetroy.org
 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:52:15 +0100
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 I've almost given up trying Deborah. A close friend of mine will use silver 
 (after HUGE persuasion on my part) but only up to a point. If whatever she 
 has doesn't go after 2 or 3 swigs, she is straight off to the docs for ABX! 
 She won't listen to anything I say regarding bringing her sugars down 
 naturally; she is on statins, no matter how much detrimental information I 
 give her. She doesn't need them either, because her cholesterol is only 4. 
 She is also on blood pressure meds even though her blood pressure is well 
 within the 'normal' range. All this because her doc says as she is diabetic, 
 it is best to be on the SAFE side! She has got progressively worse; the pain 
 she is in with her skin has increased and now her knee joint has got so bad 
 she can't walk and needs an op. She still keeps taking it all though - 
 'because the doctor said so!' Jeez! dee
 
 
  

Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-25 Thread Guyot Léna
Here's a yahoo group which might have member near you. Also great  
source of kefir info.

kefir_mak...@yahoogroups.com

Be well,
Léna
On Jun 25, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Ronnie Joseph wrote:

Oh great Deborah,

Maybe someone close to me in Surrey British Columbia will let me know  
if they have some. I will await other replies and if unsuccessful I  
may contact you in the near future if that's ok


Ronnie




Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-25 Thread PTF
Hi Ronnie,
I have some of Sandy's kefir grains and they are great!  

I don't know if you would have a problem at the border or with the mail in 
Canada (a few things I have mailed took forever to get there) but the grains 
themselves make great kefir and kefir cheese!
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sandy 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 1:08 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCancer question


Hi Ronnie,

I have kefir grains which I share with others. I live in Texas but have 
sent my grains all over the states even to Alaska without any mishaps. I have 
also given kefir grains to several people on this forum so I'm sure they will 
vouch for me. If you're interested let me know.

Sandy

--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Ronnie Joseph ronnie.jos...@shaw.ca wrote:


  From: Ronnie Joseph ronnie.jos...@shaw.ca
  Subject: Re: CSCancer question
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 11:52 PM


  Well Deborah when people are challenged they turn to name calling e.g 
Know it all etc. I have found it often is to cover up their feeling of fear. 
Fear of success 


  I have asked around the forum but do you know where I may be able to 
get Kefir grains in British Columbia Surrey or Vancouver area

  Thank you
  Ronnie  


Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Marshall
I believe that a doctor can sometimes see a tumor in the bladder, and 
might have a pretty good idea if it is cancerous or not by its 
appearance, but for definite proof a biopsy is likely necessary.  It is 
also possible they might be able to get that information from looking 
for and at any cells that end up in the urine, but I have never heard of 
that being done.


Marshall

On 6/23/2011 10:42 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone 
has cancer while doing a scope ina bladder?

Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
Thanks in advance everyone,
Deb




RE: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Nenah Sylver
Biopsies invariably dislodge cancerous cells, which due to a self-protective
mechanism migrate to other parts of the body and set up camp there so they
can continue to grow. (The allopaths call it metastasizing.) There are
non-invasive ways to detect cancer: VoiceBio analysis, and many types of
electromedical devices such as electrodermal screening (EDS). See
http://reenie.org/site/electro/basic.html 

 

Even the American Cancer Society is now conducting trials to see if EDS can
detect cancer: 

 
http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAl
ternativeMedicine/ManualHealingandPhysicalTouch/electrodermal-screening
http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlt
ernativeMedicine/ManualHealingandPhysicalTouch/electrodermal-screening 

 

Also Google voll electrodermal screening.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook (2009)

Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)

VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

 http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com;
http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com 

  _  

From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCancer question

 

I believe that a doctor can sometimes see a tumor in the bladder, and might
have a pretty good idea if it is cancerous or not by its appearance, but for
definite proof a biopsy is likely necessary.  It is also possible they might
be able to get that information from looking for and at any cells that end
up in the urine, but I have never heard of that being done.

Marshall

--- 

Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has
cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?

Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?

Thanks in advance everyone,

Deb



Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Bob Banever
Marshall,

 I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian cancer and 
they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took chemo she 
might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an 
experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an hepatic coma 
from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed her.  And the 
oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been older I probably 
would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These people are murderers in 
business suits and happen to have medical degrees.  

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCancer question


  That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their poisons. 
 They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without chemo, and talked 
her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with it, and she 
actually lasted less than 24 hours.

  Marshall


  On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote: 
IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early. 
Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
as is the usual result.
The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
Give this some thought =
http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
talk it over with your mom  sis.
It's important to treat it early.
If it's not cancerous, no harm done with 
the soda/maple syrup protocol.
Smitty




On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

  The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my sister's 
was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a little 
curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was 
cancer...h



  From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CSCancer question



  If it were me, I would use this method = 
  http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
  Smitty






  On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if 
present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a biopsy.  
Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was cancer and not do a 
biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the blood.   That is my 
opinion however and not intended as advice to you.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: cs 
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
  Subject: CSCancer question


  Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone 
has cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
  Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
  Thanks in advance everyone,
  Deb










Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Dan Nave
I often wonder why more people don't take more things into their own hands.

Dan

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Marshall,

  I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian cancer and
 they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took chemo she
 might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an
 experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an hepatic
 coma from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed her.
 And the oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been older I
 probably would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These people are
 murderers in business suits and happen to have medical degrees.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer question
 That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
 poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without chemo,
 and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with it,
 and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.

 Marshall


 On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:

 IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
 Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
 as is the usual result.
 The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
 Give this some thought =
 http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
 talk it over with your mom  sis.
 It's important to treat it early.
 If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
 the soda/maple syrup protocol.
 Smitty

 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my sister's
 was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a little
 curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
 cancer...h

 From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer question

 If it were me, I would use this method =
 http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
 Smitty



 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
 wrote:

 They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
 present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
 biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was cancer
 and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the
 blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to you.

 - Original Message -
 From: Deborah Gerard
 To: cs
 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
 Subject: CSCancer question
 Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has
 cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
 Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
 Thanks in advance everyone,
 Deb







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Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Guyot Léna
That's like asking why the illiterate peasants of the 14th century  
didn't stand against the all-powerful Catholic church.

Doctors are our secular priests.
Be well,
Léna
On Jun 24, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Dan Nave wrote:

I often wonder why more people don't take more things into their own  
hands.


Dan

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net  
wrote:

Marshall,

 I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian  
cancer and
they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took  
chemo she

might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an
experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an  
hepatic
coma from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed  
her.
And the oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been  
older I
probably would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These  
people are

murderers in business suits and happen to have medical degrees.

Bob

- Original Message -
From: Marshall
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: CSCancer question
That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months  
without chemo,
and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week  
with it,

and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.

Marshall


On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:

IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
as is the usual result.
The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
Give this some thought =
http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
talk it over with your mom  sis.
It's important to treat it early.
If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
the soda/maple syrup protocol.
Smitty

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
wrote:


The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my  
sister's
was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a  
little

curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
cancer...h

From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer question

If it were me, I would use this method =
http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
Smitty



On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
wrote:

They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was  
cancer
and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru  
the
blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to  
you.


- Original Message -
From: Deborah Gerard
To: cs
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
Subject: CSCancer question
Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if  
someone has

cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
Thanks in advance everyone,
Deb









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Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Smitty
 I often wonder why more people don't take more things into their own
 hands.

 Dan


A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some
allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat
cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?
Smitty


 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
  Marshall,
 
   I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian cancer
 and
  they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took chemo
 she
  might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an
  experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an hepatic
  coma from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed her.
  And the oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been older
 I
  probably would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These people are
  murderers in business suits and happen to have medical degrees.
 
  Bob
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marshall
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCancer question
  That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
  poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without
 chemo,
  and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with
 it,
  and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.
 
  Marshall
 
 
  On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:
 
  IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
  Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
  as is the usual result.
  The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
  Give this some thought =
  http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
  talk it over with your mom  sis.
  It's important to treat it early.
  If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
  the soda/maple syrup protocol.
  Smitty
 
  On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
 
  The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my
 sister's
  was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a
 little
  curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
  cancer...h
 
  From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CSCancer question
 
  If it were me, I would use this method =
  http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
  Smitty
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
  wrote:
 
  They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
  present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
  biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was
 cancer
  and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the
  blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to you.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Deborah Gerard
  To: cs
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
  Subject: CSCancer question
  Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone
 has
  cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
  Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
  Thanks in advance everyone,
  Deb
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Jimmie Cairn
Well said.  I lost a sister to the profession,  and though we strongly urged 
her husband to take action, he was too brainwashed  to do any thing.  I wanted 
to strangle him with my bare hands.  He just kept saying  They did all they 
knew to do, Yeah, right..
Jimmie





From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 9:43:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer question




I often wonder why more people don't take more things into their own hands.

Dan


A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some
allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat
cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?
Smitty

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Marshall,

  I have a similar experience with my mother.  She had ovarian cancer and
 they told her she had six months to a year to live but if she took chemo she
 might get 5 years.  She decided to take the chemo... is was 5FU, an
 experimental drug at the time... and she immediatley went into an hepatic
 coma from liver failure and died three weeks later.  One pill killed her.
 And the oncologist was never indicted for murder if I had been older I
 probably would have taken the matter into my own hands.  These people are
 murderers in business suits and happen to have medical degrees.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer question
 That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
 poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without chemo,
 and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with it,
 and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.

 Marshall


 On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:

 IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
 Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
 as is the usual result.
 The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
 Give this some thought =
 http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
 talk it over with your mom  sis.
 It's important to treat it early.
 If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
 the soda/maple syrup protocol.
 Smitty

 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my sister's
 was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a little
 curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
 cancer...h

 From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer question

 If it were me, I would use this method =
 http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
 Smitty



 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
 wrote:

 They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
 present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
 biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was cancer
 and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the
 blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to you.

 - Original Message -
 From: Deborah Gerard
 To: cs
 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
 Subject: CSCancer question
 Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has
 cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
 Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
 Thanks in advance everyone,
 Deb







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Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Deborah Gerard
I'm often called a know it all because I have alot of answers for health 
problems.  I hungered for knowledge to help other's and myself but it's a 
rareity for people to listen seems like.


From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer question




I often wonder why more people don't take more things into their own hands.

Dan


A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some
allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat
cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?
Smitty

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Marshall,
 Bob

 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer question
 That is true, the docs murdered both my mother and sister with their
 poisons.  They told my mom that she would last about 3 months without chemo,
 and talked her into it. I told her she would last less than a week with it,
 and she actually lasted less than 24 hours.

 Marshall


 On 6/24/2011 12:37 AM, Smitty wrote:

 IF they put her on chemo, she'll die early.
 Not from the cancer, but from the chemo,
 as is the usual result.
 The medicos only *treat* not *cure*. . .
 Give this some thought =
 http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
 talk it over with your mom  sis.
 It's important to treat it early.
 If it's not cancerous, no harm done with
 the soda/maple syrup protocol.
 Smitty

 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 The scope was done today and it was done on my mother. One of my sister's
 was there and told me that the doc said it was cancer.  I am just a little
 curios I didn't think you could tell by a visual that a growth was
 cancer...h

 From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: CSCancer question

 If it were me, I would use this method =
 http://tinyurl.com/3kxzbs
 Smitty



 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
 wrote:

 They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if
 present.  The only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a
 biopsy.  Personally, if I had a known growth I would assume it was cancer
 and not do a biopsy as this procedure can spread cancer cells thru the
 blood.   That is my opinion however and not intended as advice to you.

 - Original Message -
 From: Deborah Gerard
 To: cs
 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
 Subject: CSCancer question
 Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has
 cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
 Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
 Thanks in advance everyone,
 Deb







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Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Deborah Gerard
I went thru an awful illness, nothing like cancer.  But went thru about six 
different doctor's and finally sought out a D.O. that was into alternative 
med.  He changed my whole life and knew exactly what was the matter and 
encouraged me to take control of my own health and  learn.


From: Jimmie Cairn jimmiechap...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer question


Well said.  I lost a sister to the profession,  and though we strongly urged 
her husband to take action, he was too brainwashed  to do any thing.  I wanted 
to strangle him with my bare hands.  He just kept saying  They did all they 
knew to do, Yeah, right..
    Jimmie



From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 9:43:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer question




I often wonder why more people don't take more things into their own hands.

Dan


A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some
allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat
cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?
Smitty

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Marshall,

   

Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Ronnie Joseph
Well Deborah when people are challenged they turn to name calling e.g Know it 
all etc. I have found it often is to cover up their feeling of fear. Fear of 
success 

 
I have asked around the forum but do you know where I may be able to get Kefir 
grains in British Columbia Surrey or Vancouver area
 
Thank you
Ronnie 


Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Sandy
Hi Ronnie,

I have kefir grains which I share with others. I live in Texas but have sent my 
grains all over the states even to Alaska without any mishaps. I have also 
given kefir grains to several people on this forum so I'm sure they will vouch 
for me. If you're interested let me know.

Sandy

--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Ronnie Joseph ronnie.jos...@shaw.ca wrote:

From: Ronnie Joseph ronnie.jos...@shaw.ca
Subject: Re: CSCancer question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 11:52 PM

Well Deborah when people are challenged they turn to name calling e.g Know it 
all etc. I have found it often is to cover up their feeling of fear. Fear of 
success 

 
I have asked around the forum but do you know where I may be able to get 
Kefir grains in British Columbia Surrey or Vancouver area
 
Thank you
Ronnie 


Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Ronnie Joseph
Oh great Deborah,
 
Maybe someone close to me in Surrey British Columbia will let me know if they 
have some. I will await other replies and if unsuccessful I may contact you in 
the near future if that's ok

Ronnie 


RE: CSCancer question

2011-06-24 Thread Donna M Lewis
Unfortunately, if the FDA and drug companies get their way, we won't be
allowed to take care of our own health, and if we do it anyway we'll be put
in jail.

 

Donna

 

From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 7:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCancer question

 

I went thru an awful illness, nothing like cancer.  But went thru about six
different doctor's and finally sought out a D.O. that was into alternative
med.  He changed my whole life and knew exactly what was the matter and
encouraged me to take control of my own health and  learn.



 

From: Jimmie Cairn jimmiechap...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer question

Well said.  I lost a sister to the profession,  and though we strongly
urged her husband to take action, he was too brainwashed  to do any thing.
I wanted to strangle him with my bare hands.  He just kept saying  They did
all they knew to do, Yeah, right..
Jimmie

 

From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 9:43:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSCancer question

 

I often wonder why more people don't take more things into their own
hands.

Dan

 

A lot of people will check with their Doc before trying some

allopathic treatment. The medicos are only allowed to treat

cancer with chemo,radiation, or surgery. Not a fair choice, no ?

Smitty


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Marshall,

   



CSCancer question

2011-06-23 Thread Deborah Gerard
Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has 
cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
Thanks in advance everyone,
Deb

Re: CSCancer question

2011-06-23 Thread Bob Banever
They will be able to see a mass (tumor) or growth of some sort if present.  The 
only way to definitively know if it's cancer is to do a biopsy.  Personally, if 
I had a known growth I would assume it was cancer and not do a biopsy as this 
procedure can spread cancer cells thru the blood.   That is my opinion however 
and not intended as advice to you.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: cs 
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:42 PM
  Subject: CSCancer question


  Can someone be kind enough to tell me if a doctor can tell if someone has 
cancer while doing a scope in a bladder?
  Doesn't there have to be a biopsy done?
  Thanks in advance everyone,
  Deb

CSCancer

2011-05-25 Thread Melly Bag
Kirsteen,
 
Someone sent me in another yahoogroup information on a cancer herb called: 
Sabah Snake Plant (Clinacanthus Nutans).  If you google this plant you will see 
anecdotal reports on its effectiveness.  This plant is from Malaysia but is 
also found in other temperate climate regions. There is a blog that gives 
recipe/protocol on how to use it.  This blog has no anecdotal report.  Here it 
is:  http://detox4cure.blogspot.com/2010/06/cure-for-diseases.html
 
You might also want to look up Herb Robert.
 
Some say taking seaweeds  lessens hexheimer of chemo and its side effects. Take 
seaweeds a few days before and afterchemo.
 
Hope you get healed quickly.
 
Melly

CScancer on face..sorry for the delay in saying thank you

2010-09-19 Thread Rusty
Thank you to all those who responded regarding cancer on my face.

Unfortunately my mail program had some problems and had to get some things 
restored.  I'm hoping I still have all the emails you sent me so I can begin 
sifting through them.

Rusty


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Re: CScancer on face..sorry for the delay in saying thank you

2010-09-19 Thread needling around

If not, Rusty, they should be in the archives.
Good luck.
PT


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:00 AM
Subject: CScancer on face..sorry for the delay in saying thank you



Thank you to all those who responded regarding cancer on my face.

Unfortunately my mail program had some problems and had to get some things
restored.  I'm hoping I still have all the emails you sent me so I can 
begin

sifting through them.

Rusty


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Re: CScancer on face..sorry for the delay in saying thank you

2010-09-19 Thread M. G. Devour
 Thank you to all those who responded regarding cancer on my face.
 
 Unfortunately my mail program had some problems and had to get some
 things restored.  I'm hoping I still have all the emails you sent me so
 I can begin sifting through them.

If not, Rusty, we have web archives at:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html

Best of luck,

Mike D.

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CScancer

2010-02-19 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
www.dr-rath-foundation.org  


This is another link Wazir.  dee PS I don't know why this font has gone so 
peculiar!

Re: CScancer and baking soda

2010-02-05 Thread Ode Coyote



  Uh... I think what triggered the framing of the question WAS the answer?

Ode


At 12:43 PM 2/4/2010 -0600, you wrote:

What are your ideas to rid one of cancer or even cancer developing?





 I am taking fluconazole for 14 days to rid of fungus. That is all I know 
that I have, but was worried that cancer was developing.

Thanks,
leslie3...@windstream.net
- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:18 AM
Subject: CScancer and baking soda





  Cancer is not a fungus, it is  a DNA replication malfunction that can 
be triggered by numerous things.
There is much evidence that weaker cancer cells cannot live in an 
alkaline environment and Baking Soda is a Base [alkaline] substance.
While it is probable that a fungus cannot live there either, the fungus 
is not the cancer.


 The Zapper doesn't electrify the blood as some claim.
 As with making CS, electron transfer in a liquid [aka electrical 
current], is carried out by chemical reaction chains with charged state 
ions carrying the electrons around...it's not like electrons bumping 
each other down a wire.


Applying DC current to a bucket of salt water via electrodes that don't 
emit their own ions produces Hypochlorous Acid on one pole [ a germicide 
and fungicide..oxidizer] and Sodium Hydroxide...[a base.] on the other pole.

 Your blood is a bucket of salt water.

 Where you put which electrode controls where what chemical is produced.
 How much power applied controls how much chemical.
 When the two chemicals meet as blood circulation mixes them together, 
they make salt again.
 For more direct targeting, one could insert a thin platinum or similar 
inert metal probe into a feeder vein.


There is also such a thing as electrical inductance using magnetic fields 
and radio waves...electromagnetics.
 Beamed radio waves can be aimed to converge and/or timed by frequency 
to pulsate with a sympathetic resonance to create hot spots where 
electrical current can be induced with more power focused there than  on 
any of the entry pathways.


If sound canceling tech can be tweeked to make a speaker in mid 
air...[and it can]


Get the idea?

Ode


At 02:13 PM 1/1/2010 -0800, you wrote:
The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing 
lung cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and 
his videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He 
was curing stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious 
danger to the cancer industry.


If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it 
should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had 
it I would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.


By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, 
about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black 
and bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or 
diagnosed, so cannot claim it was cancer.


Dick

- Original Message -
From: mailto:kmartjo...@aol.comkmartjo...@aol.com
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Fwd: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT 
taken CS.


IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal 
Aspergillus. It is treated using
compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester 
have found that the fungus has

been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging 
Infectious Diseases, showed that 13 out of
14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to 
therapy and that numerous mutations

were responsible.



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Re: CScancer and baking soda

2010-02-04 Thread Leslie
What are your ideas to rid one of cancer or even cancer developing? I am 
taking fluconazole for 14 days to rid of fungus. That is all I know that I 
have, but was worried that cancer was developing.

Thanks,
leslie3...@windstream.net
- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:18 AM
Subject: CScancer and baking soda





  Cancer is not a fungus, it is  a DNA replication malfunction that can be 
triggered by numerous things.
There is much evidence that weaker cancer cells cannot live in an alkaline 
environment and Baking Soda is a Base [alkaline] substance.
While it is probable that a fungus cannot live there either, the fungus is 
not the cancer.


 The Zapper doesn't electrify the blood as some claim.
 As with making CS, electron transfer in a liquid [aka electrical 
current], is carried out by chemical reaction chains with charged state 
ions carrying the electrons around...it's not like electrons bumping each 
other down a wire.


Applying DC current to a bucket of salt water via electrodes that don't 
emit their own ions produces Hypochlorous Acid on one pole [ a germicide 
and fungicide..oxidizer] and Sodium Hydroxide...[a base.] on the other 
pole.

 Your blood is a bucket of salt water.

 Where you put which electrode controls where what chemical is produced.
 How much power applied controls how much chemical.
 When the two chemicals meet as blood circulation mixes them together, 
they make salt again.
 For more direct targeting, one could insert a thin platinum or similar 
inert metal probe into a feeder vein.


There is also such a thing as electrical inductance using magnetic fields 
and radio waves...electromagnetics.
 Beamed radio waves can be aimed to converge and/or timed by frequency to 
pulsate with a sympathetic resonance to create hot spots where 
electrical current can be induced with more power focused there than  on 
any of the entry pathways.


If sound canceling tech can be tweeked to make a speaker in mid 
air...[and it can]


Get the idea?

Ode


At 02:13 PM 1/1/2010 -0800, you wrote:
The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung 
cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his 
videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was 
curing stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger 
to the cancer industry.


If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it 
should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it 
I would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.


By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, 
about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and 
bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed, 
so cannot claim it was cancer.


Dick

- Original Message -
From: mailto:kmartjo...@aol.comkmartjo...@aol.com
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Fwd: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken 
CS.


IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal 
Aspergillus. It is treated using
compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester 
have found that the fungus has

been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious 
Diseases, showed that 13 out of
14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to 
therapy and that numerous mutations

were responsible.



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Re: CS.we donapos;t KNOW what would have happened had we NOT 
taken CS.


fungal_disease.pdf



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Re: CScancer and baking soda

2010-02-04 Thread John E. Stevens
I'd detox three times a day with Flor*Essence, a special brand of Essiac
tea. 2 oz of tea and 2 oz of pure (non-chlorinated Spring water heated
stovetop - not nuked) Spring water 1 hour before breakfast, 1 hour before
lunch and just before retiring.  I'd drink two oz of CSW three times a day
in between detoxing.  A good start. Take 10 grams of vitamin C over the
course of the day with meals.  Vit C is an excellent cancer preventative and
was used by Linus Pauling at his cancer institute to treat terminal cancer
patients.  Vit D3, Epicor, cod liver oil are good additions, too.  As much
natural home made juice (beet, celery, carrot, cabbage) as you can drink.

John

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:

 What are your ideas to rid one of cancer or even cancer developing? I am
 taking fluconazole for 14 days to rid of fungus. That is all I know that I
 have, but was worried that cancer was developing.
 Thanks,
 leslie3...@windstream.net
 - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:18 AM
 Subject: CScancer and baking soda




  Cancer is not a fungus, it is  a DNA replication malfunction that can be
 triggered by numerous things.
 There is much evidence that weaker cancer cells cannot live in an alkaline
 environment and Baking Soda is a Base [alkaline] substance.
 While it is probable that a fungus cannot live there either, the fungus is
 not the cancer.

  The Zapper doesn't electrify the blood as some claim.
  As with making CS, electron transfer in a liquid [aka electrical
 current], is carried out by chemical reaction chains with charged state ions
 carrying the electrons around...it's not like electrons bumping each other
 down a wire.

 Applying DC current to a bucket of salt water via electrodes that don't
 emit their own ions produces Hypochlorous Acid on one pole [ a germicide and
 fungicide..oxidizer] and Sodium Hydroxide...[a base.] on the other pole.
  Your blood is a bucket of salt water.

  Where you put which electrode controls where what chemical is produced.
  How much power applied controls how much chemical.
  When the two chemicals meet as blood circulation mixes them together,
 they make salt again.
  For more direct targeting, one could insert a thin platinum or similar
 inert metal probe into a feeder vein.

 There is also such a thing as electrical inductance using magnetic fields
 and radio waves...electromagnetics.
  Beamed radio waves can be aimed to converge and/or timed by frequency to
 pulsate with a sympathetic resonance to create hot spots where electrical
 current can be induced with more power focused there than  on any of the
 entry pathways.

 If sound canceling tech can be tweeked to make a speaker in mid
 air...[and it can]

 Get the idea?

 Ode


 At 02:13 PM 1/1/2010 -0800, you wrote:

 The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung
 cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his
 videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was curing
 stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger to the
 cancer industry.

 If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it
 should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it I
 would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.

 By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50,
 about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and
 bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed,
 so cannot claim it was cancer.

 Dick

 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:kmartjo...@aol.comkmartjo...@aol.com
 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
 Subject: Fwd: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT
 taken CS.

 IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal
 Aspergillus. It is treated using
 compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester
 have found that the fungus has
 been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
 The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging
 Infectious Diseases, showed that 13 out of
 14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to
 therapy and that numerous mutations
 were responsible.


 --
 From: chube...@yahoo.com
 Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time
 Subj: Re: CS.we donapos;t KNOW what would have happened had we NOT
 taken CS.

 fungal_disease.pdf



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CScancer and baking soda

2010-01-03 Thread Ode Coyote



  Cancer is not a fungus, it is  a DNA replication malfunction that can be 
triggered by numerous things.
There is much evidence that weaker cancer cells cannot live in an alkaline 
environment and Baking Soda is a Base [alkaline] substance.
While it is probable that a fungus cannot live there either, the fungus is 
not the cancer.


 The Zapper doesn't electrify the blood as some claim.
 As with making CS, electron transfer in a liquid [aka electrical 
current], is carried out by chemical reaction chains with charged state 
ions carrying the electrons around...it's not like electrons bumping each 
other down a wire.


Applying DC current to a bucket of salt water via electrodes that don't 
emit their own ions produces Hypochlorous Acid on one pole [ a germicide 
and fungicide..oxidizer] and Sodium Hydroxide...[a base.] on the other pole.

 Your blood is a bucket of salt water.

 Where you put which electrode controls where what chemical is produced.
 How much power applied controls how much chemical.
 When the two chemicals meet as blood circulation mixes them together, 
they make salt again.
 For more direct targeting, one could insert a thin platinum or similar 
inert metal probe into a feeder vein.


There is also such a thing as electrical inductance using magnetic fields 
and radio waves...electromagnetics.
 Beamed radio waves can be aimed to converge and/or timed by frequency to 
pulsate with a sympathetic resonance to create hot spots where electrical 
current can be induced with more power focused there than  on any of the 
entry pathways.


If sound canceling tech can be tweeked to make a speaker in mid 
air...[and it can]


Get the idea?

Ode


At 02:13 PM 1/1/2010 -0800, you wrote:
The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung 
cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his 
videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was 
curing stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger 
to the cancer industry.


If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it 
should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it 
I would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it.


By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, 
about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and 
bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed, 
so cannot claim it was cancer.


Dick

- Original Message -
From: mailto:kmartjo...@aol.comkmartjo...@aol.com
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Fwd: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.

IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal 
Aspergillus. It is treated using
compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester 
have found that the fungus has

been able to mutate making treatment ineffective.
The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious 
Diseases, showed that 13 out of
14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to 
therapy and that numerous mutations

were responsible.



--
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Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Re: CS.we donapos;t KNOW what would have happened had we NOT 
taken CS.


fungal_disease.pdf



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Re: CSCancer Can Be Beaten | The Dr. Rath Health Foundation

2009-12-15 Thread Dan Nave
Where can one find information regarding dosage amounts for the
protocols he is suggesting?

I was not able to find anything like that on the website.

Thanks,

Dan

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote:
       Although this talk was given, by Mathias Rath, in 2002...the only
 change, since then, seems to be that the geneal situation involving
 allopathic attempts at treatment.are just
 continuing to fail-as an effective address for overcoming
 carcinoma and its effects.
                 Sincerely,   Brooks Bradley


 http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/NHC/cancer/lecture/new_york_2002_09_29.htm

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