CS>GREAT RESET: GET YOUR MONEY OUT OF THE BANK! MASSIVE ECONOMIC RESET COMING SOON! – Silver Doctors

[T. J. Garland]

https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/great-reset-get-your-money-out-of-the-bank-massive-economic-reset-coming-soon/


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Re: CS>make money with no money :)

[Jaxi Schulz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_spoofing

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Hi,
> What is spoofing?
> Thanks.
> PT
>
> --
> *From:* Scott Adams 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Mon, May 13, 2013 10:08:30 AM
> *Subject:* RE: CS>make money with no money :)
>
> I run a lot of yahoo groups. I don't think it's all spoofing. The messages
> come in with a bunch of other valid emails from the user's address book. So
> they do have access to that. Once the yahoo password is changed the emails
> stop too.
>
> But you do bring up a valid point. The yahoo groups will send an email when
> a reply is sent on a thread. No password is needed. I am not sure what
> prevents a lot more spam getting through.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Cyndi [mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:03 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>make money with no money :)
> >
> > On 5/13/2013 9:32 AM, Jaxi Schulz wrote:
> > > more complicated passwords should fix it
> > >
> >
> > In many cases the email accounts aren't hacked at all, they are spoofed
> so
> > changing passwords won't make a difference. I know the ones on the Yahoo
> > groups are spoofed. Don't know about here.
> >
> > Cyndi
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Re: CS>make money with no money :)

[PT Ferrance]

Hi,
What is spoofing? 
Thanks.
PT





From: Scott Adams 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 13, 2013 10:08:30 AM
Subject: RE: CS>make money with no money :)

I run a lot of yahoo groups. I don't think it's all spoofing. The messages
come in with a bunch of other valid emails from the user's address book. So
they do have access to that. Once the yahoo password is changed the emails
stop too.

But you do bring up a valid point. The yahoo groups will send an email when
a reply is sent on a thread. No password is needed. I am not sure what
prevents a lot more spam getting through.

> -Original Message-
> From: Cyndi [mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:03 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>make money with no money :)
> 
> On 5/13/2013 9:32 AM, Jaxi Schulz wrote:
> > more complicated passwords should fix it
> >
> 
> In many cases the email accounts aren't hacked at all, they are spoofed so
> changing passwords won't make a difference. I know the ones on the Yahoo
> groups are spoofed. Don't know about here.
> 
> Cyndi
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RE: CS>make money with no money :)

[Scott Adams]

I run a lot of yahoo groups. I don't think it's all spoofing. The messages
come in with a bunch of other valid emails from the user's address book. So
they do have access to that. Once the yahoo password is changed the emails
stop too.

But you do bring up a valid point. The yahoo groups will send an email when
a reply is sent on a thread. No password is needed. I am not sure what
prevents a lot more spam getting through.

> -Original Message-
> From: Cyndi [mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:03 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>make money with no money :)
> 
> On 5/13/2013 9:32 AM, Jaxi Schulz wrote:
> > more complicated passwords should fix it
> >
> 
> In many cases the email accounts aren't hacked at all, they are spoofed so
> changing passwords won't make a difference. I know the ones on the Yahoo
> groups are spoofed. Don't know about here.
> 
> Cyndi
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Re: CS>make money with no money :)

[Cyndi]

On 5/13/2013 9:32 AM, Jaxi Schulz wrote:

more complicated passwords should fix it



In many cases the email accounts aren't hacked at all, they are spoofed 
so changing passwords won't make a difference. I know the ones on the 
Yahoo groups are spoofed. Don't know about here.


Cyndi


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RE: CS>make money with no money :)

[Scott Adams]

Good thought! I am going to start mentioning that to folks.

 

From: Jaxi Schulz [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>make money with no money :)

 

more complicated passwords should fix it

 

password crackers crack into accounts with fairly easy passwords and then
send to the address list in the account

 

a secure password has upper and lower case letters, numbers and symbols

 

Jaxi

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Scott Adams  wrote:

I run a number of lists and have not been able to figure out the vector on
this one either. It occurs pretty regularly and to folks who do seem to be
practicing safe computing.

Normally a password reset seems to get them straightened out. I would love
to hear how to get these resolved long term!

Scott Adams
I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet!
www.lyme-resource.com


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> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 5:21 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>make money with no money :)
>
> Another spam, indeed, and again from a legitimate list member address.
>
> I'll send a heads-up. Hopefully we can get some feedback on what these
> members find when they do a malware sweep. Else, there's some other
> vector of attack... 
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
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Re: CS>make money with no money :)

[Jaxi Schulz]

more complicated passwords should fix it

password crackers crack into accounts with fairly easy passwords and then
send to the address list in the account

a secure password has upper and lower case letters, numbers and symbols

Jaxi

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Scott Adams  wrote:

> I run a number of lists and have not been able to figure out the vector on
> this one either. It occurs pretty regularly and to folks who do seem to be
> practicing safe computing.
>
> Normally a password reset seems to get them straightened out. I would love
> to hear how to get these resolved long term!
>
> Scott Adams
> I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet!
> www.lyme-resource.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 5:21 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>make money with no money :)
> >
> > Another spam, indeed, and again from a legitimate list member address.
> >
> > I'll send a heads-up. Hopefully we can get some feedback on what these
> > members find when they do a malware sweep. Else, there's some other
> > vector of attack... 
> >
> > Be well,
> >
> > Mike D.
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RE: CS>make money with no money :)

[Scott Adams]

I run a number of lists and have not been able to figure out the vector on
this one either. It occurs pretty regularly and to folks who do seem to be
practicing safe computing. 

Normally a password reset seems to get them straightened out. I would love
to hear how to get these resolved long term!

Scott Adams
I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet!
www.lyme-resource.com


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> From: M.G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 5:21 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>make money with no money :)
> 
> Another spam, indeed, and again from a legitimate list member address.
> 
> I'll send a heads-up. Hopefully we can get some feedback on what these
> members find when they do a malware sweep. Else, there's some other
> vector of attack... 
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike D.
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Re: CS>make money with no money :)

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

Thanks, Mike
  Lola H.

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:20 AM, M.G. Devour  wrote:

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>
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Re: CS>make money with no money :)

[M.G. Devour]

Another spam, indeed, and again from a legitimate list member address.

I'll send a heads-up. Hopefully we can get some feedback on what these
members find when they do a malware sweep. Else, there's some other
vector of attack... 

Be well,

Mike D.



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Re: CS>make money with no money :)

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

LOL.. I know.  They kinda sprout like weeds.  Lola H.

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Re: CS>Easy Money. Looking for easy money ? WE got it. Visit us now to get it !

[MaryAnn Helland]

Carol Ann -- I think your email addy has been hijacked by spammers.  MA





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Re: CS>Health Sensors, Money Sensors, Hardware Sensors, and Human injected Sensors

[Sandee George]

Hi There Wayne - there is no one who can tell you what you need to do -
no that is
not correct - there is no one who has the right to tell you what you need
to do - that
choice is yours and only you can be the judge of that decision !   
You have been
trained in the work you obviously enjoy doing - so what will serve the
most, so that   there is a win win outcome for all, is usually the best
way to go    Clarity and a 
free conscience are valuable gifts 
Take good care of you
Regards
Sandee

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Re: CS>Health Sensors, Money Sensors, Hardware Sensors, and Human injected Sensors

[Rowena]

Horses.
Bull sold for half a million in Victoria, Australia.

  - 

  Hello Wayne.  I am curiouswhat animals cost 1 to 2 million dollars?  
thanks.  Faith G.

  By the way, some of this is being applied to high dollar animals to monitor 
their health, ...
  Animals that cost 1 million to 5 million dollars.

  Wayne

  ==

Re: CS>Health Sensors, Money Sensors, Hardware Sensors, and Human injected Sensors

[bbanever]

Faith,

  Race and show horses can cost that much.  

  Cheers.
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:37 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Health Sensors, Money Sensors, Hardware Sensors, and Human 
injected Sensors


  Hello Wayne.  I am curiouswhat animals cost 1 to 2 million dollars?  
thanks.  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Fugitt 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:07 AM
Subject: CS>Health Sensors, Money Sensors, Hardware Sensors, and Human 
injected Sensors


Morning Sandee,

Good news, Bad News, or a coverup for other purposes !   ( just a question 
) 

>> At 09:55 PM 4/7/2008, you wrote:

  There have been many unique obstacles encountered while undertaking this 
project and one of the chief ones was being able to measure sodium, potassium 
and chloride in sweat samples. This was eventually achieved by inventing a 
suite of prototype ionic biosensors. The pH of sweat is measured using a 
miniaturised pH sensor that detects tiny colour changes, whereas specific 
proteins in fluid samples are detected with an immunosensor that can be 
incorporated into the dressings put over wounds to the skin.

  The real question is, . if the fools doing this knows how a 
healthy body functions.

  First, .. no salt in the sweat is not a problem, does not 
indicate a sodium deficiency,  and likely some of the other minerals can be 
missing also in  the sweat of a healthy person.

 The next big question, ...

  Where did they find SIX healthy people to do any testing and analysis of 
the Sweat ?

  Next they will sense for $ 100.00 bills,  contraband hardware,  mood,  
party connection,  your bank account number, and on and on.

  Sensing in one thing, but transmission of the data is another.  

  Rest assured, two or three engineers, with a redneck to kick them in the 
rear,  can defeat the transmitter with no problems.

  I know a little about sensors also. I studied them for a solid year in 
the past.
  ( not the kind in question here )

  the main thing I learned,  ( non technical ) is that a sensor made for 
the medical profession would cost
  $ 1000 to $ 2000 dollars.

  The same type sensor made for industrial use would cost $ 300 to $ 500.
   ( this usually included the signal conditioning circuit, and sometimes 
the type or output circuit desired.
  Not the full communication, as this was handled with RS-485, or  RS 232. 
Two wire, 4 wire, full duplex, half duplex, and encrypted.   This is so complex 
and confusing that many manufacturers state their product is one type when 
really it is another.   Fortunately,  I learned all this about 8 years before 
my main field of business converted many products to this type communication.  
I was prepared for the future.
  
  This was a lot of fun, hard work, and very rewarding.

The knowledge I gained, and 100,000 hours of other studies is why I 
have a meeting with scientist this week to tell them the things they do not 
know.  Will also set up data logging for high dollar experiments paid for by 
other countries,

 The bad part is that I have deducted the things they want to do are all 
wrong and not the best.

 The question is, should I tell them or simply go along with their ideas ?

I thought of setting up my ideas, doing the data logging, and showing them 
the file, To compare the data with their ideas.  It will beat their concept 
several times over.

Then, I might be able to get a few dollars for my efforts.

At times,  the Redneck logic over rides my good nature and my big heart. 

Likely I should start a project as to the best way to neutralize all 
sensors installed in humans and their clothes.

I am sure I could get some funding for this project.
 
Shares only $ .50 each.

I will watch for some of these clothes.  would like to know the prices.

I think it will be some time before this is in common use.  Basically it 
involves existing technology,
highly miniaturized, with the proper data transmission.

And.. last but not least, this could be Government Funded and is 
nothing but a cover up or the REAL purpose, 

The whole smear could be to deceive the people.   This is done every day, 
nothing new.

By the way, some of this is being applied to high dollar animals to monitor 
their health, ...
Animals that cost 1 million to 5 million dollars.

Wayne

==

Re: CS>Health Sensors, Money Sensors, Hardware Sensors, and Human injected Sensors

[faith gagne]

Hello Wayne.  I am curiouswhat animals cost 1 to 2 million dollars?  
thanks.  Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Wayne Fugitt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:07 AM
  Subject: CS>Health Sensors, Money Sensors, Hardware Sensors, and Human 
injected Sensors


  Morning Sandee,

  Good news, Bad News, or a coverup for other purposes !   ( just a question ) 

  >> At 09:55 PM 4/7/2008, you wrote:

There have been many unique obstacles encountered while undertaking this 
project and one of the chief ones was being able to measure sodium, potassium 
and chloride in sweat samples. This was eventually achieved by inventing a 
suite of prototype ionic biosensors. The pH of sweat is measured using a 
miniaturised pH sensor that detects tiny colour changes, whereas specific 
proteins in fluid samples are detected with an immunosensor that can be 
incorporated into the dressings put over wounds to the skin.

The real question is, . if the fools doing this knows how a 
healthy body functions.

First, .. no salt in the sweat is not a problem, does not indicate 
a sodium deficiency,  and likely some of the other minerals can be missing also 
in  the sweat of a healthy person.

   The next big question, ...

Where did they find SIX healthy people to do any testing and analysis of 
the Sweat ?

Next they will sense for $ 100.00 bills,  contraband hardware,  mood,  
party connection,  your bank account number, and on and on.

Sensing in one thing, but transmission of the data is another.  

Rest assured, two or three engineers, with a redneck to kick them in the 
rear,  can defeat the transmitter with no problems.

I know a little about sensors also. I studied them for a solid year in the 
past.
( not the kind in question here )

the main thing I learned,  ( non technical ) is that a sensor made for the 
medical profession would cost
$ 1000 to $ 2000 dollars.

The same type sensor made for industrial use would cost $ 300 to $ 500.
 ( this usually included the signal conditioning circuit, and sometimes the 
type or output circuit desired.
Not the full communication, as this was handled with RS-485, or  RS 232. 
Two wire, 4 wire, full duplex, half duplex, and encrypted.   This is so complex 
and confusing that many manufacturers state their product is one type when 
really it is another.   Fortunately,  I learned all this about 8 years before 
my main field of business converted many products to this type communication.  
I was prepared for the future.

This was a lot of fun, hard work, and very rewarding.

  The knowledge I gained, and 100,000 hours of other studies is why I have 
a meeting with scientist this week to tell them the things they do not know.  
Will also set up data logging for high dollar experiments paid for by other 
countries,

   The bad part is that I have deducted the things they want to do are all 
wrong and not the best.

   The question is, should I tell them or simply go along with their ideas ?

  I thought of setting up my ideas, doing the data logging, and showing them 
the file, To compare the data with their ideas.  It will beat their concept 
several times over.

  Then, I might be able to get a few dollars for my efforts.

  At times,  the Redneck logic over rides my good nature and my big heart. 

  Likely I should start a project as to the best way to neutralize all sensors 
installed in humans and their clothes.

  I am sure I could get some funding for this project.
   
  Shares only $ .50 each.

  I will watch for some of these clothes.  would like to know the prices.

  I think it will be some time before this is in common use.  Basically it 
involves existing technology,
  highly miniaturized, with the proper data transmission.

  And.. last but not least, this could be Government Funded and is 
nothing but a cover up or the REAL purpose, 

  The whole smear could be to deceive the people.   This is done every day, 
nothing new.

  By the way, some of this is being applied to high dollar animals to monitor 
their health, ...
  Animals that cost 1 million to 5 million dollars.

  Wayne

  ==

CS>Health Sensors, Money Sensors, Hardware Sensors, and Human injected Sensors

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Sandee,

Good news, Bad News, or a coverup for other purposes !   ( just a question )

>> At 09:55 PM 4/7/2008, you wrote:
There have been many unique obstacles encountered while undertaking this 
project and one of the chief ones was being able to measure sodium, 
potassium and chloride in sweat samples. This was eventually achieved by 
inventing a suite of prototype ionic biosensors. The pH of sweat is 
measured using a miniaturised pH sensor that detects tiny colour changes, 
whereas specific proteins in fluid samples are detected with an 
immunosensor that can be incorporated into the dressings put over wounds 
to the skin.


  The real question is, . if the fools doing this knows how a 
healthy body functions.


  First, .. no salt in the sweat is not a problem, does not 
indicate a sodium deficiency,  and likely some of the other minerals can be 
missing also in  the sweat of a healthy person.


 The next big question, ...

  Where did they find SIX healthy people to do any testing and analysis of 
the Sweat ?


  Next they will sense for $ 100.00 bills,  contraband 
hardware,  mood,  party connection,  your bank account number, and on and on.


  Sensing in one thing, but transmission of the data is another.

  Rest assured, two or three engineers, with a redneck to kick them in the 
rear,  can defeat the transmitter with no problems.


  I know a little about sensors also. I studied them for a solid year in 
the past.

  ( not the kind in question here )

  the main thing I learned,  ( non technical ) is that a sensor made for 
the medical profession would cost

  $ 1000 to $ 2000 dollars.

  The same type sensor made for industrial use would cost $ 300 to $ 500.
   ( this usually included the signal conditioning circuit, and sometimes 
the type or output circuit desired.
  Not the full communication, as this was handled with RS-485, or  RS 232. 
Two wire, 4 wire, full duplex, half duplex, and encrypted.   This is so 
complex and confusing that many manufacturers state their product is one 
type when really it is another.   Fortunately,  I learned all this about 8 
years before my main field of business converted many products to this type 
communication.  I was prepared for the future.


  This was a lot of fun, hard work, and very rewarding.

The knowledge I gained, and 100,000 hours of other studies is why I 
have a meeting with scientist this week to tell them the things they do not 
know.  Will also set up data logging for high dollar experiments paid for 
by other countries,


 The bad part is that I have deducted the things they want to do are all 
wrong and not the best.


 The question is, should I tell them or simply go along with their ideas ?

I thought of setting up my ideas, doing the data logging, and showing them 
the file, To compare the data with their ideas.  It will beat their concept 
several times over.


Then, I might be able to get a few dollars for my efforts.

At times,  the Redneck logic over rides my good nature and my big heart.

Likely I should start a project as to the best way to neutralize all 
sensors installed in humans and their clothes.


I am sure I could get some funding for this project.

Shares only $ .50 each.

I will watch for some of these clothes.  would like to know the prices.

I think it will be some time before this is in common use.  Basically it 
involves existing technology,

highly miniaturized, with the proper data transmission.

And.. last but not least, this could be Government Funded and is 
nothing but a cover up or the REAL purpose,


The whole smear could be to deceive the people.   This is done every day, 
nothing new.


By the way, some of this is being applied to high dollar animals to monitor 
their health, ...

Animals that cost 1 million to 5 million dollars.

Wayne

==

CS>Seed Money and the New Age (in addition to 'World framing disaster')

[Luz y Leo]

John  bollyb...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 

>>I myself , who am endowed with fabulous riches, like to give what they 
>>deserve. I often say keep the change from twenty pound notes for a bag of 
>>apples<<

 

Three cheers to you Mr. John!

 

Knowingly or unconsciously you apply the metaphysical law of what is commonly 
called the "Seed money Principle". You will, so doing, NEVER lack anything, and 
I am very happy to read your post, as one affirmation of this law.

 

I am reminded of Louis Armstrong, who, after being rewarded a golden trumpet, 
GAVE it to a little talented black boy of his neighborhood .. because the boy 
had enough wits to understand the value of such a gift, and not enough dice to 
ever study trumpet. By the way Louis Armstrong was one of these carefree souls 
who were able to literally curl up in a corner on the bare floor, sleep tightly 
for a short time and wake up refreshed for his next performance. He was 
un-attached.

 

I am reminded of the nestor-banker Rockefeller. He would shake hands with new 
acquaintances, colleagues, friends or people he first met .. and then they 
would find a brand-new dime in their hands. Rockefeller never left his office 
without (brand new!) dimes in his pockets.

 

I am reminded of a millionaire-businessman in Texas. He would, after having 
made his yearly balance, pardon all his small debtors, knowing they were 
restricted to pay. His business grew and grew and only grew.

 

We (not really rich -yet-.) live by the rule ' " niet door potten en houen , 
maar door delen en bouwen " '. It is Dutch, and it does not rhyme in English: ' 
" not by scraping and keeping , but by sharing and constructing " '. Helping 
were we can, wherever there is the need - without chiming cymbals.

 

Ye may consider me a bit of a philosopher; even so I am very grateful for Mr. 
John's testimony. He gives a great example of how things ought to be, in this 
dawning of the Golden Age, on the threshold of which the brotherhood of all of 
us (the phenomenon known as 'the human race') is at this point in time.

 

FaithStFrancis

non-conformist Free-thinker

CS>Seed Money and the New Age (in addition to ‘World framing disaster’)

[Faith Saint Francis]

 
 
John  bollyb...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
>>I myself , who am endowed with fabulous riches, like to give what they 
>>deserve. I often say keep the change from twenty pound notes for a bag of 
>>apples<<
 
Three cheers to you Mr. John!
 
Knowingly or unconsciously you apply the metaphysical law of what is commonly 
called the “Seed money Principle”. You will, so doing, NEVER lack anything, and 
I am very happy to read your post, as one affirmation of this law.
 
I am reminded of Louis Armstrong, who, after being rewarded a golden trumpet, 
GAVE it to a little talented black boy of his neighborhood .. because the boy 
had enough wits to understand the value of such a gift, and not enough dice to 
ever study trumpet. By the way Louis Armstrong was one of these carefree souls 
who were able to literally curl up in a corner on the bare floor, sleep tightly 
for a short time and wake up refreshed for his next performance. He was 
un-attached.
 
I am reminded of the nestor-banker Rockefeller. He would shake hands with new 
acquaintances, colleagues, friends or people he first met .. and then they 
would find a brand-new dime in their hands. Rockefeller never left his office 
without (brand new!) dimes in his pockets.
 
I am reminded of a millionaire-businessman in Texas. He would, after having 
made his yearly balance, pardon all his small debtors, knowing they were 
restricted to pay. His business grew and grew and only grew.
 
We (not really rich –yet–…) live by the rule ‘ “ niet door potten en houen , 
maar door delen en bouwen “ ‘. It is Dutch, and it does not rhyme in English: ‘ 
“ not by scraping and keeping , but by sharing and constructing “ ‘. Helping 
were we can, wherever there is the need - without chiming cymbals.
 
Ye may consider me a bit of a philosopher; even so I am very grateful for Mr. 
John’s testimony. He gives a great example of how things ought to be, in this 
dawning of the Golden Age, on the threshold of which the brotherhood of all of 
us (the phenomenon known as ‘the human race’) is at this point in time.
 
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Re: CS>Out of date, out of time, out of money

[Malcolm Stebbins]

Hi Terry, Thanks for the info, but the problem goes deeper than that, or 
anyway farther back.  I live on alternative power, solar panels and 
micro-hydro in the winter.  On several occasions a few weeks ago I had 
glitches in my power supply-inverter due to inadequate energy input.  This 
dumped the computer abruptly a few times, and several programs in the tray 
or start menu were damaged.  Rather than attempting to re-install them I've 
opted to hold out til I could afford a new box and Linux, and that time is 
soon upon me.  Meanwhile it lives in the past, and marches to the beat of 
that  different drum; (well hey, sometimes so do I. )

Take care,  Malcolm

At 12:40 PM 6/12/06 -0400, you wrote:


Malcom,
A computer that loses time even though you reset it
usually needs a new battery (little round, flat thing,
size of a quarter). The first sign of a weak battery
is inaccurate date/time. Later, when the battery is
dead, the computer forgets how to start up.

Any computer shop has them for $5-$10.

Terry

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Re: CS>Money, sweet as honey

[Marshall Dudley]

Another book I just finished reading is "Trust Us We're Experts!", by
Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber.  It isn't just the medical but virtually
all big industry and government, the most egregious actions are in the
pollution and tobacco area.  In the book they went through all the "lies"
the tobacco lawyers told in court, and the series of reversals to be
replaced with another lie:

Tobacco smoking is good for you
Tobacco smoking is not good for you, but doesn't hurt you
Tobacco smoking does not cause cancer
Tobacco smoking does cause cancer but not in humans
Tobacco smoking can cause cancer in humans, but not their tobacco
Their tobacco can cause cancer in humans but not in the quantities that a
smoker would smoke
Their tobacco can cause cancer in humans at the amounts that a smoker smokes
but second hand smoke is harmless.

Marshall

"Jonathan B. Britten" wrote:

> By the way, if you want possibly something even uglier,  read "Death of
> a Mountain" in Harper's, April 2005.   See page 59, paragraph two and
> onward.Coal industry this time. . .  bet you never read about the
> 300 million gallons of toxic waste sludge that spilled in October 2000,
> a disaster 30 times the size of the Exxon-Valdez disaster.   Neither
> had I.   Check out the details of the thwarted investigation and the
> fate of the one decent bureaucrat involved.
>
> Worth one's time if one wants to know how the government works, or
> doesn't. But I will stop here because our concern on this list is
> with CS, and only my original posting was directly pertinent, insofar
> as we are concerned with pharmaceutical companies in relation to CS.
>
> On Saturday, Apr 16, 2005, at 16:07 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten
> wrote:
>
> > See this link for details of a call for an investigation:
> >
> > http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1635
> >
> > My hunch is that, like a great deal of the criminality associated with
> > a certain group of politicians currently in power, everything is
> > technically legal.   However, hope springs eternal.   There are
> > first-rate public citizens working to right the wrongs . . . .
> >
> >
> > JBB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, Apr 16, 2005, at 15:11 Asia/Tokyo, Acmeair wrote:
> >
> >> what pharma did he get hired by?   was he present on any critical
> >> decisions on drug approvals ?? why don't we start a "crusade" on this
> >> dude.???   if he's honest, let it be, if not cut the juevoes off.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
> >>
> >>> I read today that a former US senator, Billy Tauzin, (R-La.),
> >>> recently retired from Congress.  In addition to his 85 thousand
> >>> dollar annual retirement package,  he now gets close to two million
> >>> dollars per year as head of a pharmaceutical association.  In
> >>> Congress he was -- big surprise -- on the committee that "regulates"
> >>> pharmaceuticals.
> >>>
> >>> The corruption of American politics is literally deadly, as many
> >>> list members know well.
> >>>
> >>> Send Billy a letter to congratulate him on pulling himself up by his
> >>> bootstraps, from the poverty of Congress to the real money of
> >>> private enterprise.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Friday, Apr 15, 2005, at 22:25 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Raine wrote:
> >>>> but general consensus was that there isn't one,
> >>>>
> >>>> It ain't that there issent one ..
> >>>> "Zey" know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if "zey"
> >>>> would admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them
> >>>> clients .. UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money,
> >>>> as sweet as honey.
> >>>> And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
> >>>> Love
> >>>> Faith
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Re: CS>Money, sweet as honey

[M. G. Devour]

Jonathan wrote:
> My hunch is that, like a great deal of the criminality associated with a
> certain group of politicians currently in power, everything is
> technically legal.   However, hope springs eternal.   There are
> first-rate public citizens working to right the wrongs . . . .

As long as by "...a certain group of politicians currently in power..." 
you mean *BOTH* major parties in Washington, I'm with you, Jonathan. 
Corruption in government did not start on January 20, 2001.

In any case, the OT list is ready and waiting for further discussion of 
this topic. A little activism is good thing. 

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CS>Money, sweet as honey

[Jonathan B. Britten]

By the way, if you want possibly something even uglier,  read "Death of 
a Mountain" in Harper's, April 2005.   See page 59, paragraph two and 
onward.Coal industry this time. . .  bet you never read about the 
300 million gallons of toxic waste sludge that spilled in October 2000, 
a disaster 30 times the size of the Exxon-Valdez disaster.   Neither 
had I.   Check out the details of the thwarted investigation and the 
fate of the one decent bureaucrat involved.


Worth one's time if one wants to know how the government works, or 
doesn't. But I will stop here because our concern on this list is 
with CS, and only my original posting was directly pertinent, insofar 
as we are concerned with pharmaceutical companies in relation to CS.






On Saturday, Apr 16, 2005, at 16:07 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten 
wrote:



See this link for details of a call for an investigation:

http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1635

My hunch is that, like a great deal of the criminality associated with 
a certain group of politicians currently in power, everything is 
technically legal.   However, hope springs eternal.   There are 
first-rate public citizens working to right the wrongs . . . .



JBB




On Saturday, Apr 16, 2005, at 15:11 Asia/Tokyo, Acmeair wrote:

what pharma did he get hired by?   was he present on any critical 
decisions on drug approvals ?? why don't we start a "crusade" on this 
dude.???   if he's honest, let it be, if not cut the juevoes off.




Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

I read today that a former US senator, Billy Tauzin, (R-La.),  
recently retired from Congress.  In addition to his 85 thousand 
dollar annual retirement package,  he now gets close to two million 
dollars per year as head of a pharmaceutical association.  In 
Congress he was -- big surprise -- on the committee that "regulates" 
pharmaceuticals.


The corruption of American politics is literally deadly, as many 
list members know well.


Send Billy a letter to congratulate him on pulling himself up by his 
bootstraps, from the poverty of Congress to the real money of 
private enterprise.












On Friday, Apr 15, 2005, at 22:25 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis 
wrote:



Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
"Zey" know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if "zey" 
would admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them 
clients .. UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, 
as sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
Love
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Re: CS>Money, sweet as honey

[Jonathan B. Britten]

See this link for details of a call for an investigation:

http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1635

My hunch is that, like a great deal of the criminality associated with 
a certain group of politicians currently in power, everything is 
technically legal.   However, hope springs eternal.   There are 
first-rate public citizens working to right the wrongs . . . .



JBB




On Saturday, Apr 16, 2005, at 15:11 Asia/Tokyo, Acmeair wrote:

what pharma did he get hired by?   was he present on any critical 
decisions on drug approvals ?? why don't we start a "crusade" on this 
dude.???   if he's honest, let it be, if not cut the juevoes off.




Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

I read today that a former US senator, Billy Tauzin, (R-La.),  
recently retired from Congress.  In addition to his 85 thousand 
dollar annual retirement package,  he now gets close to two million 
dollars per year as head of a pharmaceutical association.  In 
Congress he was -- big surprise -- on the committee that "regulates" 
pharmaceuticals.


The corruption of American politics is literally deadly, as many list 
members know well.


Send Billy a letter to congratulate him on pulling himself up by his 
bootstraps, from the poverty of Congress to the real money of private 
enterprise.












On Friday, Apr 15, 2005, at 22:25 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis 
wrote:



Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
"Zey" know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if "zey" 
would admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them 
clients .. UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as 
sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
Love
Faith

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Re: CS>Money, sweet as honey

[Acmeair]

what pharma did he get hired by?   was he present on any critical 
decisions on drug approvals ?? why don't we start a "crusade" on this 
dude.???   if he's honest, let it be, if not cut the juevoes off.




Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

I read today that a former US senator, Billy Tauzin, (R-La.),  
recently retired from Congress.  In addition to his 85 thousand dollar 
annual retirement package,  he now gets close to two million dollars 
per year as head of a pharmaceutical association.  In Congress he was 
-- big surprise -- on the committee that "regulates" pharmaceuticals.


The corruption of American politics is literally deadly, as many list 
members know well.


Send Billy a letter to congratulate him on pulling himself up by his 
bootstraps, from the poverty of Congress to the real money of private 
enterprise.












On Friday, Apr 15, 2005, at 22:25 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis wrote:


Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
"Zey" know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if "zey" 
would admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them 
clients .. UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as 
sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
Love
Faith

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Re: CS>Money, sweet as honey

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I read today that a former US senator, Billy Tauzin, (R-La.),  recently 
retired from Congress.  In addition to his 85 thousand dollar annual 
retirement package,  he now gets close to two million dollars per year 
as head of a pharmaceutical association.  In Congress he was -- big 
surprise -- on the committee that "regulates" pharmaceuticals.


The corruption of American politics is literally deadly, as many list 
members know well.


Send Billy a letter to congratulate him on pulling himself up by his 
bootstraps, from the poverty of Congress to the real money of private 
enterprise.












On Friday, Apr 15, 2005, at 22:25 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis wrote:


Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
"Zey" know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if "zey" 
would admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them 
clients .. UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as 
sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
Love
Faith

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Re: CS>Money, sweet as honey

[G & K Murray]

Hi all,

Why would this site say to drink 8-10 glasses of water a day?  I know 
people are supposed to drink at least 8 glasses of water every day any 
way.  But how does this pertain to colloidal silver?  What is a microna?


"American Longevity's Majestic Earth Colloidal Silver is made with the 
highest quality ingredients available. This product has been laboratory 
tested confirming 50 parts per million of pure colloidal silver with an 
average particle size of .0001 Microna. Our Colloidal Silver contains 
De-ionized water and pure microna fine silver in suspension. When taking 
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Re: CS>Money, sweet as honey

[Raine]

Aint that the truth!
-Raine

Faith Saint Francis wrote:


Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
"Zey" know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if "zey" 
would admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them 
clients .. UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as 
sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
Love
Faith

CS>Money, sweet as honey

[Faith Saint Francis]

Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
"Zey" know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if "zey" would 
admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them clients .. 
UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
Love
Faith

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[Faith Saint Francis]

Raine wrote:
but general consensus was that there isn't one,

It ain't that there issent one ..
"Zey" know very well zet zere a' many. Ittis jussst that if "zey" would 
admit zet zere a' manymanymany treetments, it would cost them clients .. 
UUuuufff ..  it would cost zem moneymoneymoney. Money, as sweet as honey.

And losing money sweet as honey, that hurts bad!
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CS>flea allergy...was, Following the money: Anthrax

[Ode Coyote]

 CS has helped my cat who had bad flea allergy lesions. It doesn't do
anything for the flea bites..it just stops them from growing into big
scabs. Hydrocortisone shots eliminated the flea allergy response, but she
peed blood for months. Not so good.
 She gets a big dose every morning with her 'stinky food'.
 Cats and dogs also seem to prefer CS water over plain water.
Ken

>Oh...I'm new to the list.  I know nothing about CS but am interested--not so 
>much for Anthrax and all the "threats on 'civilization'[SIC]", but because I 
>have a dog who started out with a bad flea allergy, exacerbated by exposure 
>to molds and fungi in Northern California, and further magnified by rabies 
>boosters when I took her to India.  On her return--three years after the 
>India rabies shot--I gave her a rabies shot to protect her from a rash of 
>rabid possums and raccoons, the flea allergies--which had disappeared for 
>four years--reappeared, gave her ID-1 (bovine colostrum) and she nearly died 
>from a severe immune system reaction.  Super Blue-Green Algae brought her 
>back to life but has not solved the problem.
>
>I don't understand most of what you folks are talking about, so I'll shut up 
>now and see how much I can absorb before asking my (inevitable) questions.
>
>Thelma
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RE: CS>Following the money: Anthrax

[JudytheK]

Welcome to the list, Thelma -- might as well ask some of the questions
now -- perhaps CS can bring your animal back to good health.
Judy Down Maine

-Original Message-
From: Thelma Seto [mailto:tgs...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Following the money: Anthrax


If you want to look at another potential motivation for the Anthrax scare,
someone sent me an article off of www.rense.com about who owns the company
in Michigan, the only one licensed to manufacture Anthrax vaccine, and its
recent history.  Its financial ties to the military are quite startling.
The article itself contains some interesting facts, and a fair amount of
paranoia.  But it raises some interesting questions.

I suspect the Anthrax is either coming from domestic malcontents or else is
designed to justify re-visiting the war on Iraq.  I won't say who I think is
behind the latter theory...shouldn't have to...

Oh...I'm new to the list.  I know nothing about CS but am interested--not so
much for Anthrax and all the "threats on 'civilization'[SIC]", but because I
have a dog who started out with a bad flea allergy, exacerbated by exposure
to molds and fungi in Northern California, and further magnified by rabies
boosters when I took her to India.  On her return--three years after the
India rabies shot--I gave her a rabies shot to protect her from a rash of
rabid possums and raccoons, the flea allergies--which had disappeared for
four years--reappeared, gave her ID-1 (bovine colostrum) and she nearly died
from a severe immune system reaction.  Super Blue-Green Algae brought her
back to life but has not solved the problem.

I don't understand most of what you folks are talking about, so I'll shut up
now and see how much I can absorb before asking my (inevitable) questions.

Thelma

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CS>Following the money: Anthrax

[Thelma Seto]

If you want to look at another potential motivation for the Anthrax scare, 
someone sent me an article off of www.rense.com about who owns the company 
in Michigan, the only one licensed to manufacture Anthrax vaccine, and its 
recent history.  Its financial ties to the military are quite startling.  
The article itself contains some interesting facts, and a fair amount of 
paranoia.  But it raises some interesting questions.


I suspect the Anthrax is either coming from domestic malcontents or else is 
designed to justify re-visiting the war on Iraq.  I won't say who I think is 
behind the latter theory...shouldn't have to...


Oh...I'm new to the list.  I know nothing about CS but am interested--not so 
much for Anthrax and all the "threats on 'civilization'[SIC]", but because I 
have a dog who started out with a bad flea allergy, exacerbated by exposure 
to molds and fungi in Northern California, and further magnified by rabies 
boosters when I took her to India.  On her return--three years after the 
India rabies shot--I gave her a rabies shot to protect her from a rash of 
rabid possums and raccoons, the flea allergies--which had disappeared for 
four years--reappeared, gave her ID-1 (bovine colostrum) and she nearly died 
from a severe immune system reaction.  Super Blue-Green Algae brought her 
back to life but has not solved the problem.


I don't understand most of what you folks are talking about, so I'll shut up 
now and see how much I can absorb before asking my (inevitable) questions.


Thelma

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Re: CS>Cost Benefit Analysis Reveals that Smokers Save Government Money

[Dick Tanguay]

Who in their right mind would believe our own government???
Dick

- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Cost Benefit Analysis Reveals that Smokers Save Government
Money


> What do you expect from a study paid for by Phillip Morris.  They ran
studies for
> decades that "proved" that smoking was healty for you as well.  Who in
their right
> mind would believe them any more?
>
> Marshall
>
> rogalt...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > List: I think the bean counters are running wild at Philip Morris. Their
PR
> > department must be doing back flips over this one: What's next, a
> > governmental sponsored cost benefit analysis of thermonuclear war? Roger
> >
> > Tobacco Deaths Save Money, Study Claims
> >
> > CZECH REPUBLIC -- Sick smokers burden a country's health-care system,
but
> > dead smokers save governments money. That's the conclusion of a study of
the
> > financial cost of smoking commissioned by tobacco giant Philip Morris.
> >
> > Researchers looked at the Czech Republic and concluded its government
saved
> > $30 million in 1999 because it did not have to support smokers who died
> > prematurely from tobacco-related illnesses.
> >
> > The study by research firm Arthur D. Little International concluded that
> > financial benefits to the Czech government from duties and taxes on
> > consumers, importers and tobacco businesses outweighed costs of health
care,
> > lost working days and fires caused by cigarettes.
> >
> >
http://chicagotribune.com/news/printedition/article/0,2669,SAV-0107180247,FF
.h
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Re: CS>Cost Benefit Analysis Reveals that Smokers Save Government Money

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 7/18/01 10:22:24 AM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:

<< Subj: Re: CS>Cost Benefit Analysis Reveals that Smokers Save 
Government Money
 Date:  7/18/01 10:22:24 AM EST
 From:  mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 What do you expect from a study paid for by Phillip Morris.  They ran 
studies for
 decades that "proved" that smoking was healty for you as well.  Who in their 
right
 mind would believe them any more?
 
 Marshall >>

Marshall: The believability of the study is NOT the issue -- if fact what 
they found could most certainly could be true. It's Philip Morris' 
cold-hearted logic, devoid of the slightest hint of any ethical value, that 
is most revealing about their corporate culture, truth-telling 
notwithstanding. Roger


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Re: CS>Cost Benefit Analysis Reveals that Smokers Save Government Money

[Marshall Dudley]

What do you expect from a study paid for by Phillip Morris.  They ran studies 
for
decades that "proved" that smoking was healty for you as well.  Who in their 
right
mind would believe them any more?

Marshall

rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

> List: I think the bean counters are running wild at Philip Morris. Their PR
> department must be doing back flips over this one: What's next, a
> governmental sponsored cost benefit analysis of thermonuclear war? Roger
>
> Tobacco Deaths Save Money, Study Claims
>
> CZECH REPUBLIC -- Sick smokers burden a country's health-care system, but
> dead smokers save governments money. That's the conclusion of a study of the
> financial cost of smoking commissioned by tobacco giant Philip Morris.
>
> Researchers looked at the Czech Republic and concluded its government saved
> $30 million in 1999 because it did not have to support smokers who died
> prematurely from tobacco-related illnesses.
>
> The study by research firm Arthur D. Little International concluded that
> financial benefits to the Czech government from duties and taxes on
> consumers, importers and tobacco businesses outweighed costs of health care,
> lost working days and fires caused by cigarettes.
>
> http://chicagotribune.com/news/printedition/article/0,2669,SAV-0107180247,FF.h
>
> tml
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CS>Cost Benefit Analysis Reveals that Smokers Save Government Money

[ROGALTMAN]

List: I think the bean counters are running wild at Philip Morris. Their PR 
department must be doing back flips over this one: What's next, a 
governmental sponsored cost benefit analysis of thermonuclear war? Roger

Tobacco Deaths Save Money, Study Claims

CZECH REPUBLIC -- Sick smokers burden a country's health-care system, but 
dead smokers save governments money. That's the conclusion of a study of the 
financial cost of smoking commissioned by tobacco giant Philip Morris.

Researchers looked at the Czech Republic and concluded its government saved 
$30 million in 1999 because it did not have to support smokers who died 
prematurely from tobacco-related illnesses.

The study by research firm Arthur D. Little International concluded that 
financial benefits to the Czech government from duties and taxes on 
consumers, importers and tobacco businesses outweighed costs of health care, 
lost working days and fires caused by cigarettes.

http://chicagotribune.com/news/printedition/article/0,2669,SAV-0107180247,FF.h

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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...PLEASE READ!

[Chrlygirl]

In a message dated 10/19/99 6:26:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
sinaj...@aol.com writes:

<< When I was a newbie people 
 helping people without trying to make a buck impressed me.  If this was just 
 a list where people were trying to sell their wares I would have passed it 
 all up and blew it off totally.   >>

Of course I like the thought of people giving things away, but if they have 
money invested in their product they will go broke in a short time. I'm very 
greatfull to those on this list that offer to sell you a product and give you 
all the information you need  for free.
Linda


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...PLEASE READ!

[Sinaj101]

In a message dated 10/19/99 7:32:37 AM Central Daylight Time, gd...@aol.com 
writes:

<< We have enough to do to form intelligent 
 reasoning in these matters for ourselves.  Let alone get into long 
 controversies that only confuse and water down a good resource.  >>

I never thought of this as an argument.  I felt like it was a discussion on 
selling and not selling.  I think a lot of good points have been made and a 
newbie would learn to trust some of us more.  When I was a newbie people 
helping people without trying to make a buck impressed me.  If this was just 
a list where people were trying to sell their wares I would have passed it 
all up and blew it off totally.  

Take care all,
Janis


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RE: CS, to make or not to make money...PLEASE READ!

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Re: the blather Mike is addressing:

Grateful Dead, circa 70's:

"Please don't stand up and rap Jack, if you've got nothing new to say..."

New Speedway Boogie

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


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From:   Henry Reed [SMTP:pj20...@home.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, October 19, 1999 7:51 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS, to make or not to make money...PLEASE READ!

I was hoping we would get to soon hear your calm, helpful voice of
reason and mildness.

M. G. Devour wrote:
> 
> If we could trim this thread while I deal with the antagonists in
> e-mail, I would truly appreciate it. Please cease choosing sides and
> defending one or another.
> 
> Neither Marsha nor James Allison is deserving of being insulted.
> Neither Marsha nor James is blameless in this argument -- or in
> life!
> 
> Let's let it cool down, please.
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike Devour
> silver-list owner
> 
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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...PLEASE READ!

[Henry Reed]

I was hoping we would get to soon hear your calm, helpful voice of
reason and mildness.

M. G. Devour wrote:
> 
> If we could trim this thread while I deal with the antagonists in
> e-mail, I would truly appreciate it. Please cease choosing sides and
> defending one or another.
> 
> Neither Marsha nor James Allison is deserving of being insulted.
> Neither Marsha nor James is blameless in this argument -- or in
> life!
> 
> Let's let it cool down, please.
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike Devour
> silver-list owner
> 
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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...PLEASE READ!

[Gdwny]

I will second this motion.  We have enough to do to form intelligent 
reasoning in these matters for ourselves.  Let alone get into long 
controversies that only confuse and water down a good resource.  Let those 
that have strong feelings in this matter and others like it make their vote 
by quietly letting the market speak for itself.  If one has several choices 
to choose from, then their choice is a personal thing that they can make.  
There are those out here that don't feel they can make their own setups or 
maybe do not have the time to do so, then they can buy what they want from 
others willing to make it for them.  Same with getting supplies.  This is a 
personal decision in my view and I am sure most have the ability to make this 
decision. 

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[Nat2ess]

All this bickering should be done privately you guys aen't runnin for office.
TO YOUR BETTER HEALTH
Ron


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[Marsha Hallett]

>
>And I say...
>Wow!  I guess I pushed a few to many hot buttons at one time.  Sorry!
>
>Yours in health,
>James Allison


Yeah, NEVER say anything to me when it is PMS time!!! Boy, can I scorch...
My poor hubby, no wonder he works in another state... :o)
Marsha


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[M. G. Devour]

If we could trim this thread while I deal with the antagonists in 
e-mail, I would truly appreciate it. Please cease choosing sides and 
defending one or another. 

Neither Marsha nor James Allison is deserving of being insulted. 
Neither Marsha nor James is blameless in this argument -- or in 
life!

Let's let it cool down, please.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[ZARKON7L]

In a message dated 10/18/1999 5:04:32 PM Central Daylight Time, 
ck...@global2000.net writes:

> OH YEAH
>   Chuck

Yeah, not this time. Ha, ha.

Jim Wright


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[Charles King]

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:50:20 EDT, zarko...@aol.com wrote:

>A little more tolerance on everybody's part might go a long way in helping 
>calm the waters here and get us back on track toward what we are really 
>shooting for.
>
>Just my two cents worth and please note that I am NOT taking sides here.
>
>Jim Wright

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[Steve King]

Janis-

>it.I do buy it now but its from a company that I feel is very
reasonable. 
> I don't think anyone can beat a gallon for $31 plus shipping and
handleing.  
>It advertises to be 100ppm but in the testing someone did on this group it 
>turned out to be about 80ppm which I still consider that pretty good.  I
have 
>been pleased with it. :)  This is just my opinion.  Thank you Marsha for all 
>you have done in showing me a way to get well that didn't cost me an arm and 
>a leg. 

Excuse me for butting into your rant   ;  ) 
but I was just curious what company
you buy your gallons of CS from?

many thanx

Steve King


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[d.linen]

Thank you Janis,

I get the feeling that some people are way too sensitive if they feel
they've been criticized by others and can never let the initial hurt go.
I think that what Marsha is doing is wonderful. I also think the same of
many others on the list. If someone steps on a person's toes, it doesn't
mean that they should yell ouch forever does it? It's next to impossible
to say everything in one post that one thinks or believes. There will
always be something left out and there will always be someone who
doesn't fully understand. This is my opinion and not meant to hurt
anyone. (disclaimer here) :)

Diane

sinaj...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> All right!!!  Time for my 2 cents now.  :)  I didn't buy my silver from
> Marsha.  I bought my silver from the same company Marsha does though.  I had
> to buy a minimum of $25.00 of it though.  If I had bought it through  Marsha
> it would have been a lot cheaper in the long run.   I have given some of it
> to friends but I still have a lot.  Marsha helped me with directions on how
> to do it and coached me for about a month to get me through the rough parts.
> She also has been one of my best friends and I owe her a lot.   Marsha is one
> of the main reasons I started silver.  She didnn't ask for money and didn't
> act like only her silver was the best like some would have done.  Before
> meeting Marsha I honestly thought all the talk about silver was just a bunch
> of selling hype to sell you something to make money off of people that were
> sick.  She is what makes me feel this list is helpful and I honestly steer
> away from the people on this list that seem to be trying to make a buck and
> what they say goes in one ear and out the other.  But because of Marsha's not
> trying to make a financial gain off of me thats why I tried it and am now in
> remission and been off abx for almost 5 months now and loving every minute of
> it.I do buy it now but its from a company that I feel is very reasonable.
>  I don't think anyone can beat a gallon for $31 plus shipping and handleing.
> It advertises to be 100ppm but in the testing someone did on this group it
> turned out to be about 80ppm which I still consider that pretty good.  I have
> been pleased with it. :)  This is just my opinion.  Thank you Marsha for all
> you have done in showing me a way to get well that didn't cost me an arm and
> a leg.
> 
> Take care,
> Janis
> 
> In a message dated 10/18/99 11:05:21 AM Central Daylight Time,
> donna2...@aol.com writes:
> 
> << << Dear James,
>   Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
>   paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
>   I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
>   sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
>Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
>   the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
>   them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
>   that several times.
>   Love,
>   Marsha, who only wants to help.
> 
>   Marsha
>>> >>
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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[James Allison]

- Original Message - 
From: Marsha Hallett 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

Marsha said...
> Dear James, You are a real snooty guy...Does "Holier than thou" ring any
> bells?
> Just my opinion of YOU!
> Hate to imagine what the Higher Authority thinks of you, too.
> Marsha, who is still in this just to help.
> PS, I`m going to take any money I do make, and donate it to something
> useful.

And I say...
Wow!  I guess I pushed a few to many hot buttons at one time.  Sorry!

Yours in health,
James Allison


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[ZARKON7L]

In a message dated 10/18/1999 3:28:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
liah...@pacbell.net writes:

> 
>  Dear James, You are a real snooty guy...Does "Holier than thou" ring any
>  bells?
>  Just my opinion of YOU!
>  Hate to imagine what the Higher Authority thinks of you, too.
>  Marsha, who is still in this just to help.
>  PS, I`m going to take any money I do make, and donate it to something
>  useful.
>  

Hey Marsha and James,

I read and enjoy what you both contribute to this list. Each of us is on a 
path that is a liitle different than any other. One is not "better" than the 
other, just different. All the name calling, finger pointing, and back biting 
is really wasted energy, don't you think? We all really are trying to achieve 
pretty much the same thing in sometimes vastly different ways. However, every 
effort is beneficial regardless of whether we all always agree, or not. 
Somebody gets something out of it everytime. I know I do even when I may 
disagree with something someone says.

Whether we give something away, or sell is really immaterial since it WILL 
get to where is supposed to be one way, or the other. 

A little more tolerance on everybody's part might go a long way in helping 
calm the waters here and get us back on track toward what we are really 
shooting for.

Just my two cents worth and please note that I am NOT taking sides here.

Jim Wright


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[Marsha Hallett]

>It's nice that Marsha helps people, but the point is that she bashed people
>that make money
A LOT of money...
from selling colloidal silver and supplies.  Now it turns
>out that she makes money as well.
A little bit.
 It's fine and dandy that she gives away
>things to people that can't afford them, I have done the same in the past
>(and will accept no glorification for it, as my actions will be judged not
>by mere man, but a much higher source). However, "if that ain't the pot
>calling the kettle black", I dunno what is.
>>By reading this sentence, you are agreeing that the paragraph(s) above are
>only an opinion, and should only be viewed as such.
Huh???
>>Yours in health,
and in HIS pocketbook...
>James Allison


Dear James, You are a real snooty guy...Does "Holier than thou" ring any
bells?
Just my opinion of YOU!
Hate to imagine what the Higher Authority thinks of you, too.
Marsha, who is still in this just to help.
PS, I`m going to take any money I do make, and donate it to something
useful.



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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[Marsha Hallett]

Dear Janis, Please consider yourself humbly bowed to, and really hugged! :o)
Love,
Marsha

>All right!!!  Time for my 2 cents now.  :)  I didn't buy my silver from
>Marsha.  I bought my silver from the same company Marsha does though.  I
had
>to buy a minimum of $25.00 of it though.  If I had bought it through
Marsha
>it would have been a lot cheaper in the long run.   I have given some of it
>to friends but I still have a lot.  Marsha helped me with directions on how
>to do it and coached me for about a month to get me through the rough
parts.
>She also has been one of my best friends and I owe her a lot.   Marsha is
one
>of the main reasons I started silver.  She didnn't ask for money and didn't
>act like only her silver was the best like some would have done.  Before
>meeting Marsha I honestly thought all the talk about silver was just a
bunch
>of selling hype to sell you something to make money off of people that were
>sick.  She is what makes me feel this list is helpful and I honestly steer
>away from the people on this list that seem to be trying to make a buck and
>what they say goes in one ear and out the other.  But because of Marsha's
not
>trying to make a financial gain off of me thats why I tried it and am now
in
>remission and been off abx for almost 5 months now and loving every minute
of
>it.I do buy it now but its from a company that I feel is very
reasonable.
> I don't think anyone can beat a gallon for $31 plus shipping and
handleing.
>It advertises to be 100ppm but in the testing someone did on this group it
>turned out to be about 80ppm which I still consider that pretty good.  I
have
>been pleased with it. :)  This is just my opinion.  Thank you Marsha for
all
>you have done in showing me a way to get well that didn't cost me an arm
and
>a leg.
>
>Take care,
>Janis
>


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[Sinaj101]

All right!!!  Time for my 2 cents now.  :)  I didn't buy my silver from 
Marsha.  I bought my silver from the same company Marsha does though.  I had 
to buy a minimum of $25.00 of it though.  If I had bought it through  Marsha 
it would have been a lot cheaper in the long run.   I have given some of it 
to friends but I still have a lot.  Marsha helped me with directions on how 
to do it and coached me for about a month to get me through the rough parts.  
She also has been one of my best friends and I owe her a lot.   Marsha is one 
of the main reasons I started silver.  She didnn't ask for money and didn't 
act like only her silver was the best like some would have done.  Before 
meeting Marsha I honestly thought all the talk about silver was just a bunch 
of selling hype to sell you something to make money off of people that were 
sick.  She is what makes me feel this list is helpful and I honestly steer 
away from the people on this list that seem to be trying to make a buck and 
what they say goes in one ear and out the other.  But because of Marsha's not 
trying to make a financial gain off of me thats why I tried it and am now in 
remission and been off abx for almost 5 months now and loving every minute of 
it.I do buy it now but its from a company that I feel is very reasonable. 
 I don't think anyone can beat a gallon for $31 plus shipping and handleing.  
It advertises to be 100ppm but in the testing someone did on this group it 
turned out to be about 80ppm which I still consider that pretty good.  I have 
been pleased with it. :)  This is just my opinion.  Thank you Marsha for all 
you have done in showing me a way to get well that didn't cost me an arm and 
a leg. 

Take care,
Janis



In a message dated 10/18/99 11:05:21 AM Central Daylight Time, 
donna2...@aol.com writes:

<< << Dear James,
  Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
  paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
  I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
  sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
   Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
  the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
  them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
  that several times.
  Love,
  Marsha, who only wants to help.
  
  Marsha
   >> >>


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[James Allison]

It's nice that Marsha helps people, but the point is that she bashed people
that make money from selling colloidal silver and supplies.  Now it turns
out that she makes money as well.  It's fine and dandy that she gives away
things to people that can't afford them, I have done the same in the past
(and will accept no glorification for it, as my actions will be judged not
by mere man, but a much higher source). However, "if that ain't the pot
calling the kettle black", I dunno what is.

By reading this sentence, you are agreeing that the paragraph(s) above are
only an opinion, and should only be viewed as such.

Yours in health,
James Allison

- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS, to make or not to make money...


> In a message dated 10/18/1999 12:11:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> liah...@pacbell.net writes:
>
> << ear James,
>  Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what
I`m
>  paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
>  I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first
began
>  sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my
plan.
>   Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
>  the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can
send
>  them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
>  that several times.
>  Love,
>  Marsha, who only wants to help.
>
>  Marsha
>   >>
> Just to back Marsha up on this, when I first joined this list Marsha was
the
> one who sent me a completed generator for cost.  She also included the
wire.
> I have been friends with her for a long time now and she has bailed me out
> alot along the way.   Marsha is truly one of the people on this list who
are
> here to help others get well, not just to make a buck.
> Hugs to you Marsha,
> Donna
>
> Donna Earnest
> This email contains only my opinion and should not be taken as medical
advice.
>
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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[Donna2424]

In a message dated 10/18/1999 12:11:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
liah...@pacbell.net writes:

<< ear James,
 Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
 paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
 I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
 sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
  Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
 the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
 them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
 that several times.
 Love,
 Marsha, who only wants to help.
 
 Marsha
  >>
Just to back Marsha up on this, when I first joined this list Marsha was the 
one who sent me a completed generator for cost.  She also included the wire.  
I have been friends with her for a long time now and she has bailed me out 
alot along the way.   Marsha is truly one of the people on this list who are 
here to help others get well, not just to make a buck.
Hugs to you Marsha,
Donna

Donna Earnest
This email contains only my opinion and should not be taken as medical advice.


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RE: CS, to make or not to make money...

[Robert Ratliff]

5 bucks is a great price. Don't change. A satisfied customer.
Thanks for making it available for us.

Best Regards, Robert Ratliff
SE Tenn.
bobratl...@iname.com

-Original Message-
From: Marsha Hallett [mailto:liah...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 12:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS, to make or not to make money...




>> Dear James, Instead of charging 50 bucks for a generator, why don`t you
>just
>> tell folks how to make CS themselves with 20 bucks worth of parts???
>> Oh, yeah, I remember, you want to make money off them...
>> Marsha
>>
>
>And now you're charging 5 bux for 10 inches of silver?  Who's making money
>now?  :)
>

Dear James,
Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
 Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
that several times.
Love,
Marsha, who only wants to help.

Marsha


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

[Marsha Hallett]

>> Dear James, Instead of charging 50 bucks for a generator, why don`t you
>just
>> tell folks how to make CS themselves with 20 bucks worth of parts???
>> Oh, yeah, I remember, you want to make money off them...
>> Marsha
>>
>
>And now you're charging 5 bux for 10 inches of silver?  Who's making money
>now?  :)
>

Dear James,
Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
 Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
that several times.
Love,
Marsha, who only wants to help.

Marsha


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Re: Money...

[Reid Smith]

>I think I know some people that are from Arkansas, that ought to be at
>Marion.
>That is the place, right Reid?
>bjs

   Yep the old Fed Pin is here. My step dad used to work there and we 
used to live right on the grounds. You know I can also think of at least 
one from Gaum that should be here... :]



Take Care 

Reid



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Re: Money...

[bjs1779]

> > Here's mine:
> >
> > Reid Smith
> > 1407 N. Glendale
> > Marion, IL 62959
> >
> >Thank you all for understanding my situation and helping.
> >
> > Take Care
> >
> > Reid
> >
> An here is mine as well!
> 
> Jim Einert
> P.O. Box 10
> Ozone, AR 72854
> 

I think I know some people that are from Arkansas, that ought to be at
Marion.
That is the place, right Reid?

bjs


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Re: Money...

[jeinert]

> From:  "Marsha Hallett" 
> To:
> Subject:   Re: Money...
> Date:  Thu, 30 Jul 1998 22:24:39 -0700
> Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com

>
Well, Marsha if I would have read the post right I would have noticed 
you said "lived" past tense!!! Duh!!!
Take Care!
Jim

 
> 
> Jim Einert
> P.O. Box 10
> Ozone, AR 72854
> 
> Dear Jim,
> Whoa! I lived in Arkansas, too!! We were in Russellville for 3 years, that
> is where I got my lovely case of Lyme disease, and faced off with the
> dumbdoc!!
> Small world...
> Let`s see, I`ve been in: CA, ID, WA, WI, AR, VA, MD, LA, CO, AZ, UT, and OH.
> Now comes IL.
> This`ll be our 27th move in 25 years.
> I`m tired...
> Marsha
> 
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Re: Money...

[jeinert]

> From:  "Marsha Hallett" 
> To:
> Subject:   Re: Money...
> Date:  Thu, 30 Jul 1998 22:24:39 -0700
> Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com

> 
> 
> Jim Einert
> P.O. Box 10
> Ozone, AR 72854
> 
> Dear Jim,
> Whoa! I lived in Arkansas, too!! We were in Russellville for 3 years, that
> is where I got my lovely case of Lyme disease, and faced off with the
> dumbdoc!!
> Small world...
> Let`s see, I`ve been in: CA, ID, WA, WI, AR, VA, MD, LA, CO, AZ, UT, and OH.
> Now comes IL.
> This`ll be our 27th move in 25 years.
> I`m tired...
> Marsha
> 
Hey Marsha,
Ozone is north of Clarksville, which is 25 miles west of 
Russellville. Small world huh??? Where in Arkansas are you living 
now? (until you move again!)
Take Care!
Jim


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Re: Money...

[Marsha Hallett]

Jim Einert
P.O. Box 10
Ozone, AR 72854

Dear Jim,
Whoa! I lived in Arkansas, too!! We were in Russellville for 3 years, that
is where I got my lovely case of Lyme disease, and faced off with the
dumbdoc!!
Small world...
Let`s see, I`ve been in: CA, ID, WA, WI, AR, VA, MD, LA, CO, AZ, UT, and OH.
Now comes IL.
This`ll be our 27th move in 25 years.
I`m tired...
Marsha


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Re: Money...

[jeinert]

> Date:  Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:24:41 -0500
> To:silver-list@eskimo.com
> From:  Reid Smith 
> Subject:   Re: Money...
> Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com

> >M. G. Devour wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> Just so everyone understands, the request for contributions you got
> >> from Reid is one that I have approved of. He and Jim Einert are
> >> getting set up to be our resident microscopists and are going to be
> >> of great value to the whole program.
> 
> > Would it be helpful if their address's were made known? I don't think
> >I ever seen them.
> 
> Here's mine:
> 
> Reid Smith
> 1407 N. Glendale
> Marion, IL 62959
> 
>Thank you all for understanding my situation and helping. 
> 
> Take Care 
> 
> Reid
> 
An here is mine as well!

Jim Einert
P.O. Box 10
Ozone, AR 72854

Thank everyone for being willing to share to further the knowledge of 
CS and for helping Reid and I to be able to afford to continue our 
research.

Take Care!

Jim


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[Reid Smith]

>Hi all,
>Just so everyone understands, the request for contributions you got 
>from Reid is one that I have approved of. He and Jim Einert are 
>getting set up to be our resident microscopists and are going to be 
>of great value to the whole program.

>So maybe it's time to run a Jim and Reid Microscopy pledge fund? I'm 
>good for another $20.
>Set a goal, you guys, and let's see if we can get you there.
>I don't want to make pledge drives a perpetual feature of the list,
>and I *never* want it to become burdensome to participate. Requests
>like this should always get cleared through me, please. But Jim's 
>camera and video capture hookup was the first thing we tried to fund 
>back in February. The recent success with the Microbial Challenge 
>Test fund may have showed us how to do it right.
>What say, folks?


   Thanks Mike you really made my day. I've been having to monitor my 
blood through the eye piece on the m-scope and it's really taking a toll 
on my eyes. By the way you can tell when your eyes are getting bad when
your arms arn't long enough to move a piece of paper away from your
face so you can read it. :]   Only kidding that's just old age.

   Just to let you and the rest of the list know I got some paramicium 
in today and they sent me 4 times what I ordered and don't think they 
will charge me for it since they took 3 weeks to get it here. I promised 
Jim I'd send him some for testing plus some 100 proof :} (PPM) store bought 
CS to look at (made by wateroz). Now insted of having to split one I can 
send him a full one and we can see how it that CS effects the little bugs. 
Plus there's enough there to test many other brews.

   I just put a drop of paramicium on a slide and looked at the little bugs
under the m-scope at low power. They were moving as the normally do. So
I put a drop of 100ppm CS in there. They went nuts, spinning and running
like there tails were on fire. In less than 30 seconds there was no movement
at all. :]  Just to make sure that what I saw was what happened maybe
Jim will repeat and see if he gets the same results. Maybe another good
test would be to mix good bacteria with the paramicium and drop in a
drop of CS to see what happens. 

   Also something else every one might be interested in. I just got a 
letter from a friend that is a cellular biologist and has access to a 
research lab. Are you setting down for this one? He said they are in the 
procress of getting an electron microscope. It gets better he offered to 
do the disk testing in his spare time for practically nothing!!!







Take Care 

Reid



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Re: Money...

[Reid Smith]

>M. G. Devour wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Just so everyone understands, the request for contributions you got
>> from Reid is one that I have approved of. He and Jim Einert are
>> getting set up to be our resident microscopists and are going to be
>> of great value to the whole program.

> Would it be helpful if their address's were made known? I don't think
>I ever seen them.

Here's mine:

Reid Smith
1407 N. Glendale
Marion, IL 62959

   Thank you all for understanding my situation and helping. 

Take Care 

Reid



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Re: Money...

[jeinert]

> From:  "M. G. Devour" 
> To:silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date:  Wed, 29 Jul 1998 11:56:44 -5
> Subject:   Money...
> Priority:  normal
> Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com

Hi list,
I thought it would be in order to say a few things here.
First THANKS to Mike and all the others that have put in a plug for 
donations to Reid and I.
I owe Reid $210 for the camera and snappy. Bob Wells is sending 
along $50 and I will send that along to Reid as part of the payment 
on the camera/snappy. That will put it down to $160.
As I posted yesterday, I would like to get some samples of home-made 
CS and commercial CS to look at in the darkfield. At this point in 
time, there will be no charge for this, as I need to look at many 
different samples to understand what I am seeing. If you would like 
to donate something to help me pay Reid back, you could send me a 
donation when you send the silver for me to check. Remember, you 
don't have to send a donation if you want to send me some silver to 
look at, and you can send me a donation even if you don't have any 
silver to send me, but I thought that might give you a better reason 
to send me some silver and some money.
At any rate, Thanks to all of you who are willing to help. I believe 
we will learn a lot from the different research that is done here on 
the silver list.
Take Care!
Jim Einert, N.D.


> Hi all,
> 
> Just so everyone understands, the request for contributions you got 
> from Reid is one that I have approved of. He and Jim Einert are 
> getting set up to be our resident microscopists and are going to be 
> of great value to the whole program.
> 
> When I took on the list-owner job in January, I sent Eskimo North the
> princely sum of $60 to set up the account. Enough people felt the
> need to contribute 5 or 10 bucks that most of it was taken care of
> for me. I didn't ask for it, they made me take it! Thank you, every
> one of you who sent me something. It wasn't a big deal, but it felt
> really good to know you value the list that much.
> 
> I'd like to see Jim and Reid set up without them having to fund the 
> whole thing out of pocket. I sent Jim a small check a while back. 
> I'll probably send him or Reid another one soon. These guys will be 
> looking at biological samples for us, as well as CS.
> 
> So maybe it's time to run a Jim and Reid Microscopy pledge fund? I'm 
> good for another $20.
> 
> Set a goal, you guys, and let's see if we can get you there.
> 
> Jim, please hook up the Snappy to your camera and computer and shoot 
> me a couple of pictures of any old CS you have around. E-mail them to 
> me and I'll put them up on the web site.
> 
> I don't want to make pledge drives a perpetual feature of the list,
> and I *never* want it to become burdensome to participate. Requests
> like this should always get cleared through me, please. But Jim's 
> camera and video capture hookup was the first thing we tried to fund 
> back in February. The recent success with the Microbial Challenge 
> Test fund may have showed us how to do it right.
> 
> What say, folks?
> 
> Mike D.
> silver-list owner
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@mail.id.net   ]
> [Speaking only for myself...  ]
> 
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Re: Money...

[bjs1779]

M. G. Devour wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just so everyone understands, the request for contributions you got
> from Reid is one that I have approved of. He and Jim Einert are
> getting set up to be our resident microscopists and are going to be
> of great value to the whole program.
> 
 Would it be helpful if their address's were made known? I don't think
I ever seen them.

bjs


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Money...

[M. G. Devour]

Hi all,

Just so everyone understands, the request for contributions you got 
from Reid is one that I have approved of. He and Jim Einert are 
getting set up to be our resident microscopists and are going to be 
of great value to the whole program.

When I took on the list-owner job in January, I sent Eskimo North the
princely sum of $60 to set up the account. Enough people felt the
need to contribute 5 or 10 bucks that most of it was taken care of
for me. I didn't ask for it, they made me take it! Thank you, every
one of you who sent me something. It wasn't a big deal, but it felt
really good to know you value the list that much.

I'd like to see Jim and Reid set up without them having to fund the 
whole thing out of pocket. I sent Jim a small check a while back. 
I'll probably send him or Reid another one soon. These guys will be 
looking at biological samples for us, as well as CS.

So maybe it's time to run a Jim and Reid Microscopy pledge fund? I'm 
good for another $20.

Set a goal, you guys, and let's see if we can get you there.

Jim, please hook up the Snappy to your camera and computer and shoot 
me a couple of pictures of any old CS you have around. E-mail them to 
me and I'll put them up on the web site.

I don't want to make pledge drives a perpetual feature of the list,
and I *never* want it to become burdensome to participate. Requests
like this should always get cleared through me, please. But Jim's 
camera and video capture hookup was the first thing we tried to fund 
back in February. The recent success with the Microbial Challenge 
Test fund may have showed us how to do it right.

What say, folks?

Mike D.
silver-list owner
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@mail.id.net   ]
[Speaking only for myself...  ]


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