RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Scott Adams]

My wife (and numerous local friends) who has Chronic Lyme disease takes 12
ounces a day of 12ppm homemade CS and uses a DP100 rife machine a couple
times a week. It has kept her symptoms in remission. If she goes off it (say
for 3 or 4 weeks on vacation) she notices symptoms returning.
 
Scott Adams
www.lyme-resource.com <http://www.lyme-resource.com/> 
You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
Adams 

  _  

From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post. 

About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis through
infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we had. The doctor I
went to at the top of the acute stage of the diseases, diagnosed me "measles
and neumonitis" and prescribed all kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or
Oxytetratracyclin. As a consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need
to find a solution, I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human
Ehrlichiosis. He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of
them a Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor.

The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately they
prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving. Nevetheless, since by
then the diseases had become chronic, after several months they relapsed
with the accompanying extreme fatigue, mental confusion, vertigo, an many
common symptoms. I tried different other antibiotics with the same relapsing
results.

Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of the
members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to make my own
generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a very good quality
product. After beginning its use, the improvements in my condition were
evident. In a short time I was consuming around 700-800 ml/day, in small
quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day) of a concentration of around 16
ppm. After all symptoms had disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of
around 350 ml/day, about 12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using
EIS/CS. I was for around 6 years totally free of symptoms.

About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for many
months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms again. I
immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above 1 lier/day of
EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product there in no danger
whatsoever of argyria. This time the "measles-looking" rash and the strong
itching all over my skin (specially on my chest and forearms) has not yet
subsided, to the contrary, it got even worse for a couple of weeks
(Herxheimer reaction?) It has been slowly improving.

Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost
inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not Borrelia
burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the treatments are almost
identical, this time I am planning to try in parallel MMS.

Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic
Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis?

Thanks and regards to all.

Carlos



  _  

Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would
probably try some.

~David


On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson  wrote:


there's a few folks around here like you're looking for...  but please share
your interesting results with the list?  i know i'd like to read them.


  _  

From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other
Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a
serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for
several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues.  

Regards.

Carlos

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Rowena]

There is the Frex group where you could download frequencies to 
correspond with the frequencies of the spirochetes, etc.  Read up on 
www.heal-me.com.au

.

Energy medicine via computer assisted diagnosis and homeopathic 
preparations which deliver the appropriate remedy as determined and 
imprinted by the results of the scan.  An appropriate websearch might 
turn up practitioners in your locality.  The one I go to in Australia is 
www.taracentre.com.au which might have links or lists of international 
practitioners.



 **Electro-Dermal Screening
 **


Electro-Dermal Screening is a method of evaluating health by taking a 
series of readings of electrical conductivity on a number of specific 
points on the skin, usually on the fingers and toes.These points are 
connected energetically to the major organ meridians of the body and the 
readings obtained indicate levels of stress in those systems.This 
approach, which originated in Germany in the early 1950's helps 
determine the most effective remedies.


By monitoring these readings it becomes possible to follow the body's 
progress towards improved health.


Homoeopathic and isopathic remedies, flower essences, nutritional 
supplementation and other natural remedies are selected on an individual 
basis according to each person's current needs.



Godzilla (6 v battery DIY device) on

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Jonathan B. Britten]

The complete protocol of Bob Beck DSci might be of value.   It includes EIS, 
blood electrification, ozonated water, and magnetic pulsing.  At least one 
member on this list has experience with the complete protocol.

A company called SOTA Instruments, based in Canda, sells the needed equipment 
and has been in business for a long time.  (They make no health claims, which 
is how they have managed to stay in business.)  



On 2011/04/14, at 8:18, Carlos Pérez wrote:

> Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post.
> 
> About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis through 
> infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we had. The doctor I 
> went to at the top of the acute stage of the diseases, diagnosed me "measles 
> and neumonitis" and prescribed all kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or 
> Oxytetratracyclin. As a consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need to 
> find a solution, I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human 
> Ehrlichiosis. He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of 
> them a Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor.
> 
> The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately they 
> prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving. Nevetheless, since by 
> then the diseases had become chronic, after several months they relapsed with 
> the accompanying extreme fatigue, mental confusion, vertigo, an many common 
> symptoms. I tried different other antibiotics with the same relapsing results.
> 
> Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of the 
> members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to make my own 
> generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a very good quality 
> product. After beginning its use, the improvements in my condition were 
> evident. In a short time I was consuming around 700-800 ml/day, in small 
> quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day) of a concentration of around 16 
> ppm. After all symptoms had disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of 
> around 350 ml/day, about 12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using 
> EIS/CS. I was for around 6 years totally free of symptoms.
> 
> About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for many 
> months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms again. I 
> immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above 1 lier/day of 
> EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product there in no danger 
> whatsoever of argyria. This time the "measles-looking" rash and the strong 
> itching all over my skin (specially on my chest and forearms) has not yet 
> subsided, to the contrary, it got even worse for a couple of weeks 
> (Herxheimer reaction?) It has been slowly improving.
> 
> Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost 
> inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not Borrelia 
> burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the treatments are almost 
> identical, this time I am planning to try in parallel MMS.
> 
> Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic 
> Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis?
> 
> Thanks and regards to all.
> 
> Carlos
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700
> Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
> From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would 
> probably try some.
> 
> ~David
> 
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson  wrote:
> there's a few folks around here like you're looking for...  but please share 
> your interesting results with the list?  i know i'd like to read them.
> From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM
> 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
> 
> Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other 
> Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a 
> serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several 
> years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. 
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Carlos
> 
> 

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Guyot Léna]

sorry: it's frequencyfoundation.com
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Guyot Léna wrote:

My particular Lyme was scanned by freauencyfoundation.com as having  
the full complement of Plum Island Lyme co-infections, which included  
Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsia. Rifing, along with salt and C protocol,  
resolved them.


Be well,
Léna
On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Carlos Pérez wrote:

Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post.

About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis  
through infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we  
had. The doctor I went to at the top of the acute stage of the  
diseases, diagnosed me "measles and neumonitis" and prescribed all  
kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or Oxytetratracyclin. As a  
consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need to find a solution,  
I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human Ehrlichiosis.  
He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of them a  
Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor.


The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately  
they prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving.  
Nevetheless, since by then the diseases had become chronic, after  
several months they relapsed with the accompanying extreme fatigue,  
mental confusion, vertigo, an many common symptoms. I tried different  
other antibiotics with the same relapsing results.


Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of  
the members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to  
make my own generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a  
very good quality product. After beginning its use, the improvements  
in my condition were evident. In a short time I was consuming around  
700-800 ml/day, in small quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day)  
of a concentration of around 16 ppm. After all symptoms had  
disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of around 350 ml/day, about  
12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using EIS/CS. I was for  
around 6 years totally free of symptoms.


About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for  
many months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms  
again. I immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above  
1 lier/day of EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product  
there in no danger whatsoever of argyria. This time the "measles- 
looking" rash and the strong itching all over my skin (specially on my  
chest and forearms) has not yet subsided, to the contrary, it got even  
worse for a couple of weeks (Herxheimer reaction?) It has been slowly  
improving.


Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost  
inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not  
Borrelia burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the  
treatments are almost identical, this time I am planning to try in  
parallel MMS.


Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic  
Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis?


Thanks and regards to all.

Carlos



Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I  
would probably try some.


~David

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson  wrote:
there's a few folks around here like you're looking for...  but please  
share your interesting results with the list?  i know i'd like to read  
them.

From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or  
other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting  
results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had  
chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with  
other colleagues.


Regards.

Carlos

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Guyot Léna]

My particular Lyme was scanned by freauencyfoundation.com as having  
the full complement of Plum Island Lyme co-infections, which included  
Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsia. Rifing, along with salt and C protocol,  
resolved them.


Be well,
Léna
On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Carlos Pérez wrote:

Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post.

About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis  
through infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we  
had. The doctor I went to at the top of the acute stage of the  
diseases, diagnosed me "measles and neumonitis" and prescribed all  
kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or Oxytetratracyclin. As a  
consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need to find a solution,  
I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human Ehrlichiosis.  
He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of them a  
Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor.


The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately  
they prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving.  
Nevetheless, since by then the diseases had become chronic, after  
several months they relapsed with the accompanying extreme fatigue,  
mental confusion, vertigo, an many common symptoms. I tried different  
other antibiotics with the same relapsing results.


Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of  
the members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to  
make my own generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a  
very good quality product. After beginning its use, the improvements  
in my condition were evident. In a short time I was consuming around  
700-800 ml/day, in small quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day)  
of a concentration of around 16 ppm. After all symptoms had  
disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of around 350 ml/day, about  
12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using EIS/CS. I was for  
around 6 years totally free of symptoms.


About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for  
many months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms  
again. I immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above  
1 lier/day of EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product  
there in no danger whatsoever of argyria. This time the "measles- 
looking" rash and the strong itching all over my skin (specially on my  
chest and forearms) has not yet subsided, to the contrary, it got even  
worse for a couple of weeks (Herxheimer reaction?) It has been slowly  
improving.


Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost  
inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not  
Borrelia burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the  
treatments are almost identical, this time I am planning to try in  
parallel MMS.


Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic  
Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis?


Thanks and regards to all.

Carlos



Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I  
would probably try some.


~David

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson  wrote:
there's a few folks around here like you're looking for...  but please  
share your interesting results with the list?  i know i'd like to read  
them.

From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or  
other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting  
results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had  
chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with  
other colleagues.


Regards.

Carlos

RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Carlos Pérez]

Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post.
About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis through 
infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we had. The doctor I 
went to at the top of the acute stage of the diseases, diagnosed me "measles 
and neumonitis" and prescribed all kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or 
Oxytetratracyclin. As a consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need to 
find a solution, I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human 
Ehrlichiosis. He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of them 
a Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor.
The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately they 
prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving. Nevetheless, since by 
then the diseases had become chronic, after several months they relapsed with 
the accompanying extreme fatigue, mental confusion, vertigo, an many common 
symptoms. I tried different other antibiotics with the same relapsing results.
Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of the 
members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to make my own 
generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a very good quality 
product. After beginning its use, the improvements in my condition were 
evident. In a short time I was consuming around 700-800 ml/day, in small 
quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day) of a concentration of around 16 
ppm. After all symptoms had disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of 
around 350 ml/day, about 12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using 
EIS/CS. I was for around 6 years totally free of symptoms.
About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for many 
months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms again. I 
immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above 1 lier/day of 
EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product there in no danger 
whatsoever of argyria. This time the "measles-looking" rash and the strong 
itching all over my skin (specially on my chest and forearms) has not yet 
subsided, to the contrary, it got even worse for a couple of weeks (Herxheimer 
reaction?) It has been slowly improving.
Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost 
inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not Borrelia 
burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the treatments are almost 
identical, this time I am planning to try in parallel MMS.
Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic 
Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis?
Thanks and regards to all.
Carlos


Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would 
probably try some.

~David

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson  wrote:








there's a few folks around here like you're looking for...  
but please share your interesting results with the list?  i know i'd like 
to read them.


  
  
  From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] 
  
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM
To: 
  silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>EIS and Tick-borne 
  diseases


  Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or 
  other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a 
  serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several 
  years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. 
  

  Regards.
  

  Carlos

  

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Marshall]

Evidence seems to support that the virus referred to as HIV is endemic, 
and that it only replicates beyond the level the HIV test is set for if 
one's immune system is compromised.  That is, the HIV test actually will 
register positive on almost 100% of the people if the blood is not 
diluted down so the threshold is raised. This in conjunction with the 
fact that many people with a level of HIV above that threshold never get 
AIDS, and many with AIDS do not register above that level in HIV.  
Benzene and its derivatives is implicated as one of the main causative 
factors in AIDS. Thus HIV is not a cause of AIDS but simply a marker 
that the immune system is crippled.


If this analysis is correct, then an advance of the HIV level to above 
the test's threshold would be an indication that the immune system is 
having problems, and needs some type of assistance.  I would avoid all 
forms of benzene, including benzoic acid in processed foods, and do a 
parasite cleanse which is probably the second highest cause of AIDS.


Marshall

On 3/20/2011 5:12 PM, bob Larson wrote:
i have read that after some years of being clean of HIV he picked it 
up all over again.  so the question is open:  did the TT not get it 
all, or was it intractable lifestyle that took him down?
he wouldn't comment to me about that when asked in email.  he did say 
that trials in africa that he had coordinated were ongoing and looking 
encouraging.

i didn't know he had died.
he was quite a soldier for his cause.  i wouldn't be surprised if it 
turned out his HIV reccurence was engineered by gov't assasins.  if 
his research is true and correct, they have a lot to deny and hide, 
and putting him down with apparent failure of the treatment would be 
the best way to dispose of him.  but he probably just got it again 
from his buddies.
nice to see you're here Duncan.  hope you're still doing as well as 
the last report you made some time ago which was super impressive.
i stopped reading almost all the lists except re silver and LDN 
naltrexone the past year or so.   i think it was Ben Stein that proved 
Time = Money (he didn't say what happens as you approach the speed of 
light).

bobL


*From:* Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@yahoo.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:58 AM
    *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit:

In March 2009 his suit against the government for
disclosure of its
role in the development of AIDS was accepted.  The Justice
Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the
case.

Soon after, his health began to deteriorate.

The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in
having a
certain AIDS cure tested clinically.  This was Tetracyl, a
silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the
HIV virus.  The efficiency of this treatment  has not been
researched.  Some patients have reported eradication of the
virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded.

After March Graves continued to lose ground.  He tried another
injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive.  He
had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20. 
Valiently

putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected
for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus
medications.

Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent
caretaker-boys took him to the hospital.  Next morning he was
intubated, comatose, and incommunicado.  Thursday morning his
sister called and said he had an intractable lung
infection.  He
was to be put on "comfort care" at 2:30, meaning life support
would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied.

He died that afternoon.

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Marshall]

Early Lyme is easily cured with a small amount of CS.  Cronic Lyme is 
much more difficult but not impossible. The problem is that it finds 
some really good hiding places.  A number of people have claimed a 
complete cure from chronic Lyme using the full Bob Beck protocol.


Marshall

On 3/19/2011 8:19 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote:
I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on 
Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it.  My doctor suggested me 
taking longer period of time.  I am in cross road.  I belive my lyme 
is chronic.  been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years.  Do you 
think EIS will work on chronic one?  I have utopia silver maker.  Do 
you think this home made EIS strong enough to kill?  How much shall 
one to drink?  Thanks.  Helen


--- On *Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon //* wrote:


From: David AuBuchon 
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM

I have tick infections.  It was the one thing that has helped me
the most.  I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it
may have saved my life, since nothing else was working.

It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat
"lyme", but I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best
first thing to try for most.

~David

2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez http://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=explorer...@hotmail.com>>

Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis
and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very
interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and
Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would
like to share experiences with other colleagues.

Regards.

Carlos

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[David AuBuchon]

FYI, the word "jello" is code word for silver.  If you google phrases in
these references, you can find the original sources:

http://scientificliving.net/2011/02/the-ultimate-guide-to-colloidal-silver-colloidal-silver-generators-and-jello-2/#has-the-use-of-eis-ever-been-professionally-documented

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:21 PM, bob Larson  wrote:

> this is the first i've read of " the direct generation of ions with
> implanted electrodes in an artery. "  anywhere to read more about it?
> i can see myself wearing a power pack like when i was using a beck blood
> electrifier.  add in bluetooth hanging on my ear and i am borg.  resistance
> was futile.
>
> about the strongest i've been able to get CS with re-brewing over and over
> again is about 65ppm when it settles down.
> tired, too lazy to do the math right now, but what volume of 65ppm would it
> take to raise the plasma level... what is it on average, something like 8
> liters in the body?  if so, guesstimating, wouldn't it take something like
> 1.5 or more liters ?   seems like it would be dangerous to thin out the
> blood with so much water quickly, even a drip over a couple days?  and the
> longer it takes to deliver in, the more it takes cuz the CS is processed
> out
> so quickly?l
> with the TT it's easy to shoot a high concentration in one syringe...
> probably only 10cc or something?
>
> i can't take risks with myself while i'm responsible for taking care of my
> ma, but after she dies i can.  but i believe she's getting better now and
> might last another decade... jeez, that'd kill me in the process, but
> that's
> the deal i guess.
>
> 
>
>From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:06 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
>
>
>If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could
> get 10ppm in the blood by IV.
>
>Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my
> site.  Including protocols involving oral use.  Most significantly are
> protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes
> in an artery.
>
>~David
>
>
>On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson 
> wrote:
>
>
>to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use
> EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm.  impossible.  duh.
>
>
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RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[bob Larson]

this is the first i've read of " the direct generation of ions with
implanted electrodes in an artery. "  anywhere to read more about it?  
i can see myself wearing a power pack like when i was using a beck blood
electrifier.  add in bluetooth hanging on my ear and i am borg.  resistance
was futile.

about the strongest i've been able to get CS with re-brewing over and over
again is about 65ppm when it settles down.  
tired, too lazy to do the math right now, but what volume of 65ppm would it
take to raise the plasma level... what is it on average, something like 8
liters in the body?  if so, guesstimating, wouldn't it take something like
1.5 or more liters ?   seems like it would be dangerous to thin out the
blood with so much water quickly, even a drip over a couple days?  and the
longer it takes to deliver in, the more it takes cuz the CS is processed out
so quickly?l
with the TT it's easy to shoot a high concentration in one syringe...
probably only 10cc or something?

i can't take risks with myself while i'm responsible for taking care of my
ma, but after she dies i can.  but i believe she's getting better now and
might last another decade... jeez, that'd kill me in the process, but that's
the deal i guess.



From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:06 PM
        To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could
get 10ppm in the blood by IV.   

Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my
site.  Including protocols involving oral use.  Most significantly are
protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes
in an artery.  

~David


On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson 
wrote:


to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use
EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm.  impossible.  duh.  


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Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Dan Nave]

Can you give the link for the protocols and cases?

Dan

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:06 PM, David AuBuchon
 wrote:
> If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get
> 10ppm in the blood by IV.
> Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site.
>  Including protocols involving oral use.  Most significantly are protocols
> involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an
> artery.
> ~David
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson  wrote:
>>
>> to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get
>> plasma level to 10ppm.  impossible.  duh.
>>
>> 
>> From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
>>
>> great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give
>> similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm
>> or more silver in a short period by IV
>>
>> Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise
>> his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but
>> didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an
>> interesting character.  seems to have researched and put together the
>> history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either
>> his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people
>> just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
>>
>


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Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[David AuBuchon]

If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get
10ppm in the blood by IV.

Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site.
 Including protocols involving oral use.  Most significantly are protocols
involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an
artery.

~David

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson  wrote:

>  to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get
> plasma level to 10ppm.  impossible.  duh.
>
>  --
> *From:* bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM
>
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
>
>  great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give
> similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm
> or more silver in a short period by IV
>
> Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise
> his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but
> didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an
> interesting character.  seems to have researched and put together the
> history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either
> his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people
> just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
>
>
>

RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[bob Larson]

to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma
level to 10ppm.  impossible.  duh.  


  _  

From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give
similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm
or more silver in a short period by IV
 
Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise
his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but
didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an
interesting character.  seems to have researched and put together the
history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either
his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people
just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
 

RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[bob Larson]

i have read that after some years of being clean of HIV he picked it up all
over again.  so the question is open:  did the TT not get it all, or was it
intractable lifestyle that took him down?
he wouldn't comment to me about that when asked in email.  he did say that
trials in africa that he had coordinated were ongoing and looking
encouraging.
i didn't know he had died.
he was quite a soldier for his cause.  i wouldn't be surprised if it turned
out his HIV reccurence was engineered by gov't assasins.  if his research is
true and correct, they have a lot to deny and hide, and putting him down
with apparent failure of the treatment would be the best way to dispose of
him.  but he probably just got it again from his buddies.
 
nice to see you're here Duncan.  hope you're still doing as well as the last
report you made some time ago which was super impressive.
i stopped reading almost all the lists except re silver and LDN naltrexone
the past year or so.   i think it was Ben Stein that proved Time = Money (he
didn't say what happens as you approach the speed of light).  
 
bobL


  _  

From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases



Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit:
 

In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its
role in the development of AIDS was accepted.  The Justice
Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the
case.

Soon after, his health began to deteriorate.  

The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a
certain AIDS cure tested clinically.  This was Tetracyl, a
silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the
HIV virus.  The efficiency of this treatment  has not been
researched.  Some patients have reported eradication of the
virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded.

After March Graves continued to lose ground.  He tried another
injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive.  He
had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20.  Valiently
putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected
for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus
medications.

Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent
caretaker-boys took him to the hospital.  Next morning he was
intubated, comatose, and incommunicado.  Thursday morning his
sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection.  He
was to be put on "comfort care" at 2:30, meaning life support
would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied.

He died that afternoon. 

RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Duncan Crow]

Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit:
 

    In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its
    role in the development of AIDS was accepted.  The Justice
    Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the
    case.
    
    Soon after, his health began to deteriorate.  
    
    The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a
    certain AIDS cure tested clinically.  This was Tetracyl, a
    silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the
    HIV virus.  The efficiency of this treatment  has not been
    researched.  Some patients have reported eradication of the
    virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded.
    
    After March Graves continued to lose ground.  He tried another
    injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive.  He
    had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20.  Valiently
    putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected
    for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus
    medications.
    
    Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent
    caretaker-boys took him to the hospital.  Next morning he was
    intubated, comatose, and incommunicado.  Thursday morning his
    sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection.  He
    was to be put on "comfort care" at 2:30, meaning life support
    would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied.
    
    He died that afternoon. 

RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[bob Larson]

TT = TetrasilverTetroxode

Ag4O4 




From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:tanke...@iland.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


whats TT?

- Original Message - 
From: bob Larson <mailto:bobli...@att.net>  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way
would give similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume
to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV
 
Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT
sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up
like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually
normalized.  he's an interesting character.  seems to have researched and
put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare
people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very
smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to
their credit?)
 
 




From: David AuBuchon
[mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
                    Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


Hi Bob,

That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of
30 breast cancers in one study:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/

Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't?  Have
any info/suggestions for buying/taking it?

~David



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Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Kathy Tankersley]

whats TT?
  - Original Message - 
  From: bob Larson 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:42 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


  great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give 
similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or 
more silver in a short period by IV

  Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his 
plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't 
damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an interesting 
character.  seems to have researched and put together the history of the 
development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak 
(maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond 
much for other reasons (not to their credit?)






From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
    Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


Hi Bob,

That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one 
study:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/

Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't?  Have any info/suggestions for 
buying/taking it?

~David

RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[bob Larson]

great article on the TT.  i wonder if EIS used the same way would give
similar results?  that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm
or more silver in a short period by IV
 
Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise
his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but
didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized.  he's an
interesting character.  seems to have researched and put together the
history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either
his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people
just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
 
 


  _  

From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


Hi Bob,

That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one
study:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/

Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't?  Have any info/suggestions for
buying/taking it?

~David

RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[bob Larson]

the only available source of TT that i know of is in the form of hot-tub
disinfectant... use instead of chlorine.  called Silspa...from online, a
place in wyoming.  do NOT approach the (only) u.s. mfgr of it or you may
hear from some men-in-black types.  there's some kind of "activator" that's
supposed to be used with it which i didn't have and from the look of the
ingredients i wouldn't use unless i had some solid confirmation that it was
o.k.
i did use TT alone, no EIS for awhile to see what it did.  it seemed to work
about as well as EIS but no better.  not a definitive experiment... trial
group on the small side (1).
since then i read patent abstracts indicating TT can be powerfully activated
by ozonating it, and when so charged it stays that way pretty stable.  free
unused ozone bubbling away as O2 of course.  so i tried ozonating it and
that makes it taste very different and i sense (?) energized.  only have
messed with that a bit and put it aside til later, haven't been back to it.
i now am in a situation where i will re-visit this probably this year.  i
couldn't really tell due to my limited use, but it still works at least as
well as EIS.  the thing is i'm free of hepC symptoms since starting CS and
never get anything else that needs killing until lately i think.  i might
try it on the septic bursitis i'll post about shortly.
will read that link as soon as i get ma to bed.  eager to do so, thanks.
 
bobL


  _  

From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


Hi Bob,

That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one
study:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/

Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't?  Have any info/suggestions for
buying/taking it?

~David


On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson  wrote:


 if your CS is quite clear, under 15ppm, should be no problem with argyria.
i'm on my 5th year of CS for hepC and it's doing a good job managing but
never quite getting rid of it.  in 2006 CS saved my life from the hepC.
during the first year i started using it i drank at least 6 oz/day and often
more.  i drank a whole liter/day for several months.  much of that CS also
had Ag4O4 tetrasilver tetroxide added to it.  i'm not gray, and the moons of
my fingernails are white.  the moons are supposed to turn blue when you come
close to skin doing so, so then it's time to back off or stop).






   From: dingyun...@att.net [mailto:dingyun...@att.net]
   Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:32 PM

   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases



   nothing turn you to gray at that much amount?  took months getting
to that level?  how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or
retesting from lab.  Sorry, so many questions.  I have not gotten over my
anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease.
Helen



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Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[David AuBuchon]

If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would
probably try some.

~David

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson  wrote:

>  there's a few folks around here like you're looking for...  but please
> share your interesting results with the list?  i know i'd like to read them.
>
>  --
> *From:* Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM
>
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
>
> Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other
> Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a
> serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for
> several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues.
>
> Regards.
>
> Carlos
>
>

RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[bob Larson]

there's a few folks around here like you're looking for...  but please share
your interesting results with the list?  i know i'd like to read them.


  _  

From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other
Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a
serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for
several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues.  

Regards.

Carlos

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[David AuBuchon]

Hi Bob,

That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one
study:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/

Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't?  Have any info/suggestions for
buying/taking it?

~David

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson  wrote:

>  if your CS is quite clear, under 15ppm, should be no problem with argyria.
> i'm on my 5th year of CS for hepC and it's doing a good job managing but
> never quite getting rid of it.  in 2006 CS saved my life from the hepC.
> during the first year i started using it i drank at least 6 oz/day and
> often
> more.  i drank a whole liter/day for several months.  much of that CS also
> had Ag4O4 tetrasilver tetroxide added to it.  i'm not gray, and the moons
> of
> my fingernails are white.  the moons are supposed to turn blue when you
> come
> close to skin doing so, so then it's time to back off or stop).
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>From: dingyun...@att.net [mailto:dingyun...@att.net]
>Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:32 PM
>     To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
>
>
> nothing turn you to gray at that much amount?  took months getting
> to that level?  how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms
> or
> retesting from lab.  Sorry, so many questions.  I have not gotten over my
> anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease.
> Helen
>
>
>
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RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[bob Larson]

i'm not a lymie, but have read from enough of them to wonder if EIS/CS will
put the spirochetes in their protected "cyst" mode if the aren't killed by
it right off?
the story i've read (this list i believe, years ago) with the most
impressive success was a guy who had chronic lyme for decades and knocked it
out by jumping right in megadosing.  something like a quart/day for at least
a month as i recall... maybe it was several month.  if he's still here
you'll hear from him.  he got lyme from a biowarfare medical experiment
while in the military in europe... 


  _  

From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


I'd start with 1 tsp a day (or less if you feel really sick), then increase
until you reach a point where you feel just barely noticeable herx reaction.
Then stay at that dose until you no longer get reaction.  Then increase
again in the same way.  So like 1 tsp, 2 tsp, 1 tbsp, 2 tbsp, 3 tbsp (1 fl
oz.), 2 fl. oz.  all the way to at least 8 fl .oz.  maybe more.  

~David

RE: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[bob Larson]

 if your CS is quite clear, under 15ppm, should be no problem with argyria.
i'm on my 5th year of CS for hepC and it's doing a good job managing but
never quite getting rid of it.  in 2006 CS saved my life from the hepC.
during the first year i started using it i drank at least 6 oz/day and often
more.  i drank a whole liter/day for several months.  much of that CS also
had Ag4O4 tetrasilver tetroxide added to it.  i'm not gray, and the moons of
my fingernails are white.  the moons are supposed to turn blue when you come
close to skin doing so, so then it's time to back off or stop).






From: dingyun...@att.net [mailto:dingyun...@att.net] 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
        Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases


nothing turn you to gray at that much amount?  took months getting
to that level?  how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or
retesting from lab.  Sorry, so many questions.  I have not gotten over my
anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease.
Helen



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Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[Guyot Léna]

Hi Helen,
EIS has helped a lot of Lymies (I'm one; 45+ years of undiagnosed  
Lyme, 4.5 years actively treating), but I don't think EIS will work  
alone. I'd strongly recommend you check out


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/

This is an effective, economical and proven protocol for killing Lyme.  
I couldn't have recovered without it. It's a group of knowledgeable,  
compassionate, and experienced Lymies, and the moderator is a wealth  
of information. He's also written an ebook that's excellent and is  
truly worth downloading.
I know that S&C made a tremendous difference in helping me recover,  
and the off-topic info that the group offered helped me effectively  
address the many issues that come with Lyme.


Another group that's full of good info, even if you don't have a Rife  
machine (although an excellent place to learn what kinds are best and  
how to use them) is


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_and_Rife/

These two groups have been my foundation, support and map to recovery.  
I couldn't have done it without them. I had no access to even semi- 
knowledgeable docs (I gave them 40 years to get it right), so have  
done it on my own (but with great support from these groups)


There is some concern/controversy that EIS, like abx, can cause Lyme  
to go into cyst form, which is something we don't really wnat, as they  
can re-emerge from cyst not as one organism but five! We like to keep  
our pathogens in their active form, where they are more vulnerable. I  
ugenerate and use EIS for dental care, eye drops, sinus spry, ear- 
drops, skin formulas, but only drink an oz. a day, unless I'm exposed  
to someone's germs, or when I feel like someone's germs have caught up  
with me.


Doxy is good for acute (recently-bitten) Lyme but so many people in  
these groups who have had extensive abx after they developed chronic  
Lyme improved only as long as they were on the abx, and after getting  
off, they eventually turned up sicker than the rest of us who were  
doing other protocols. There are some Lyme-literate docs who are  
knowledgeable enough to work with abx: which different kinds and what  
sort of pulsing, but not many, at least from what I've read on these  
forums for the last 4.5 years.


As you believe you have chronic Lyme, I'd really hope that you'd  
pursue some of the many other more effective killing protocols, and  
also learn about how to detox, as whatever pathogens you kill will  
leave toxic die-off that must be eliminated as quickly as possible  
from the body in order for you to make real progress.


So, I think EIS will be a valuable tool in fighting Lyme, and I think  
following some good Lyme groups will lead you to a whole tool-kit of  
great protocols, and better and better health .


Be well,
Léna
On Mar 19, 2011, at 8:19 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote:

I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on  
Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it.  My doctor suggested me  
taking longer period of time.  I am in cross road.  I belive my lyme  
is chronic.  been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years.  Do you  
think EIS will work on chronic one?  I have utopia silver maker.  Do  
you think this home made EIS strong enough to kill?  How much shall  
one to drink?  Thanks.  Helen


--- On Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon  wrote:

From: David AuBuchon 
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM

I have tick infections.  It was the one thing that has helped me the  
most.  I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have  
saved my life, since nothing else was working.


It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat  
"lyme", but I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best  
first thing to try for most.


~David

2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez 
Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or  
other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting  
results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had  
chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with  
other colleagues.


Regards.

Carlos

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[David AuBuchon]

most people have "herx reactions" when they do something to kill bugs.  This
makes you temporarily feel worse, and then feel better.  And it is
proportional to how much bugs you kill at once.  So that is why you need to
increase doses slowly as you can tolerate.  This will ensure you avoid
experiences like you had with doxycycline.

So to answer your question, EIS gave me herx reactions followed by net
improvement.  I improved, improved, improved, until EIS gave me neither herx
reactions or improvement for some time.

I am not familiar with the generator you have, but I would suggest making
around 10PPM EIS.  I would not worry about turning blue long term if the
resulting EIS is clear.  Yes, it would take time anyway.  If you want to
think extensively about safety precautions, read the following section on
safety if EIS which I wrote:

http://scientificliving.net/2011/02/the-ultimate-guide-to-colloidal-silver-colloidal-silver-generators-and-jello-2/#the-safety-of-eis-and-jello

Remember that the bugs cause all sorts of anxiety, depression, and fear
symptoms themselves.  So when you feel freaked out, always remind yourself
that it is the bugs and not you, and those feelings will go away when the
bugs are gone.

Always do things gradually, and never do things hastily out of a rush to get
well.

There is a group of people using homemade EIS for lyme and infections here.
I also am on this group:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DougPlus/messages

~David

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM,  wrote:

> nothing turn you to gray at that much amount?  took months getting to that
> level?  how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or
> retesting from lab.  Sorry, so many questions.  I have not gotten over my
> anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease.
>  Helen
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon * wrote:
>
>
> From: David AuBuchon 
> Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 5:23 PM
>
>
> I'd start with 1 tsp a day (or less if you feel really sick), then increase
> until you reach a point where you feel just barely noticeable herx
> reaction.  Then stay at that dose until you no longer get reaction.  Then
> increase again in the same way.  So like 1 tsp, 2 tsp, 1 tbsp, 2 tbsp, 3
> tbsp (1 fl oz.), 2 fl. oz.  all the way to at least 8 fl .oz.  maybe
> more.
>
> ~David
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:19 PM, 
> http://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dingyun...@att.net>
> > wrote:
>
>   I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on
> Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it.  My doctor suggested me taking
> longer period of time.  I am in cross road.  I belive my lyme is chronic.
> been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years.  Do you think EIS will work
> on chronic one?  I have utopia silver maker.  Do you think this home made
> EIS strong enough to kill?  How much shall one to drink?  Thanks.  Helen
>
> --- On *Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon 
> http://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aubuchon.da...@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: David AuBuchon 
> http://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aubuchon.da...@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
> To: 
> silver-list@eskimo.com<http://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM
>
>
> I have tick infections.  It was the one thing that has helped me the most.
> I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my
> life, since nothing else was working.
>
> It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat "lyme", but
> I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for
> most.
>
> ~David
>
> 2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez 
> http://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=explorer...@hotmail.com>
> >
>
> Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other
> Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a
> serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for
> several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues.
>
> Regards.
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[dingyung49]

nothing turn you to gray at that much amount?  took months getting to that 
level?  how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or retesting 
from lab.  Sorry, so many questions.  I have not gotten over my anxiety/emotion 
yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease.   Helen

--- On Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon  wrote:


From: David AuBuchon 
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 5:23 PM


I'd start with 1 tsp a day (or less if you feel really sick), then increase 
until you reach a point where you feel just barely noticeable herx reaction.  
Then stay at that dose until you no longer get reaction.  Then increase again 
in the same way.  So like 1 tsp, 2 tsp, 1 tbsp, 2 tbsp, 3 tbsp (1 fl oz.), 2 
fl. oz.  all the way to at least 8 fl .oz.  maybe more.  

~David


On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:19 PM,  wrote:





I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on Doxycycline 
and felt so sick after taking it.  My doctor suggested me taking longer period 
of time.  I am in cross road.  I belive my lyme is chronic.  been feeling 
pain/sick for more than 20 years.  Do you think EIS will work on chronic one?  
I have utopia silver maker.  Do you think this home made EIS strong enough to 
kill?  How much shall one to drink?  Thanks.  Helen

--- On Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon  wrote:


From: David AuBuchon 
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM





I have tick infections.  It was the one thing that has helped me the most.  
I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my life, 
since nothing else was working.  

It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat "lyme", but I 
am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for most.

~David


2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez 


Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other 
Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious 
case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I 
would like to share experiences with other colleagues.  


Regards.


Carlos

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[David AuBuchon]

I'd start with 1 tsp a day (or less if you feel really sick), then increase
until you reach a point where you feel just barely noticeable herx
reaction.  Then stay at that dose until you no longer get reaction.  Then
increase again in the same way.  So like 1 tsp, 2 tsp, 1 tbsp, 2 tbsp, 3
tbsp (1 fl oz.), 2 fl. oz.  all the way to at least 8 fl .oz.  maybe
more.

~David

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:19 PM,  wrote:

> I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on
> Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it.  My doctor suggested me taking
> longer period of time.  I am in cross road.  I belive my lyme is chronic.
> been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years.  Do you think EIS will work
> on chronic one?  I have utopia silver maker.  Do you think this home made
> EIS strong enough to kill?  How much shall one to drink?  Thanks.  Helen
>
> --- On *Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon * wrote:
>
>
> From: David AuBuchon 
> Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM
>
>
> I have tick infections.  It was the one thing that has helped me the most.
> I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my
> life, since nothing else was working.
>
> It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat "lyme", but
> I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for
> most.
>
> ~David
>
> 2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez 
> http://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=explorer...@hotmail.com>
> >
>
> Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other
> Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a
> serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for
> several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues.
>
> Regards.
>
> Carlos
>
>
>

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[dingyung49]

I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on Doxycycline 
and felt so sick after taking it.  My doctor suggested me taking longer period 
of time.  I am in cross road.  I belive my lyme is chronic.  been feeling 
pain/sick for more than 20 years.  Do you think EIS will work on chronic one?  
I have utopia silver maker.  Do you think this home made EIS strong enough to 
kill?  How much shall one to drink?  Thanks.  Helen

--- On Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon  wrote:


From: David AuBuchon 
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM


I have tick infections.  It was the one thing that has helped me the most.  
I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my life, 
since nothing else was working.  

It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat "lyme", but I 
am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for most.

~David


2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez 


Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other 
Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious 
case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I 
would like to share experiences with other colleagues. 


Regards.


Carlos

Re: CS>EIS and Tick-borne diseases

[David AuBuchon]

I have tick infections.  It was the one thing that has helped me the most.
I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my
life, since nothing else was working.

It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat "lyme", but
I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for
most.

~David

2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez 

>  Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other
> Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a
> serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for
> several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues.
>
> Regards.
>
> Carlos
>