Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-21 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Where offshore Bob?  dee



From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:33:32 -0800
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:31:01 -0800

it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced
trials and patents are underway for new use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must
have a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx
an off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness
is spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks.

  
  
 
  From: PT Ferrance  [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44  AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS and  RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
  
  
  
 But don't you need a prescription for it?
 PT
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  




RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-21 Thread bob Larson
canada, india, mexico ... 


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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


Where offshore Bob?  dee



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From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:33:32 -0800
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:31:01 -0800

it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced
trials and patents are underway for new use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must
have a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx
an off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness
is spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks.  




 

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From: PT Ferrance  [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44  AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and  RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

 
 

But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT
 
 







 

 
 







Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-21 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thanks Bob ­ probably have to take out a mortgage for the postage from here!
dee



From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:47:20 -0800
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:44:46 -0800

canada, india, mexico ...

  
  
 
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick  [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:10  AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS and  RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
  
 Where offshore Bob?  dee
 
 
  
 
  From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date:  Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:33:32 -0800
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject:  RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 Resent-From:  silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date:  Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:31:01 -0800
 
 it's an orphan  generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced
 trials and patents  are underway for new use.
 yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
 so, to  be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must have
 a  prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx an
 off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness is
 spreading.
 many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over  two weeks.
 
  
 
  
  
 
  From: PT  Ferrance  [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44  AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject:  Re: CSCS and  RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
  
  
 
 But don't you need a prescription for  it?
 PT
  
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
  
 




RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-20 Thread bob Larson
the zapper is worth a try but don't waste a lot of time with it.
 
if you get onto a couple LDN yahoo groups and put hashimoto into the
search function of groups Files area and message archives you will quickly
see that LDN often oiver time reduces or eliminates the need for thyroid
meds while correcting lots of things often unanticipated or previously
unknown.

LDN for:
 
cancer
lupus
psoriasis
thyroid
RA
MS
dementia (helps my mom immensely, like turning back the clock a couple
years.
fibro
crohn's
IBS
UC
etc, etc, etc.
 
super safe, non-toxic, cheap, and available with a long and growing history
of saving  improving lives.
 
 

  _  

From: aslra...@gmail.com [mailto:aslra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and
low for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my
thyroid medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages...
doctors are not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on
frequent basis (due to insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid
symptoms?  
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what
cost is it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 

I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and
be healthy again. 

Kindly, 

RaVen  



On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:



I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is
autoimmune also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the
medication.  I wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means
or if they just use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and
coming back for monitoring!
Just my experience.
PT



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From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27 AM
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA

try CS + LDN together.

both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue  that's what LDN excels at.

 -Original Message-
 From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSCS and RA
 
 Hello
 
 Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
 remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
 minocin made me 
 sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
 think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
 colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
 
 Thanks
 Monique


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Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-20 Thread PT Ferrance
But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT





From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 12:10:42 PM
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


the zapper is worth a try but don't waste a lot of time  with it.
 
if you get onto a couple LDN yahoo groups and put  hashimoto into the search 
function of groups Files area and message archives you will quickly see that 
LDN often oiver time reduces or eliminates the  need for thyroid meds while 
correcting lots of things often unanticipated or  previously unknown.

LDN for:
 
cancer
lupus
psoriasis
thyroid
RA
MS
dementia (helps my mom immensely, like turning back the  clock a couple years.
fibro
crohn's
IBS
UC
etc, etc, etc.
 
super safe, non-toxic, cheap, and available with a long and  growing history of 
saving  improving lives.
 
 


 From: aslra...@gmail.com[mailto:aslra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:44AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS andRA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cureHashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching highand 
low for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happenedyet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I amseverely 
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my
thyroid 
medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages...doctors 
are not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on frequent
basis 
(due to insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid symptoms? 
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what
cost 
is it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms atbay? 


I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs
and 
be healthy again. 


Kindly, 


RaVen  




On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:


I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is  
autoimmune also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed  the 
medication.  I wonder if the doctors really understand what  autoimmune 
means or if they just use it for a way to get people on  medication, lab 
tests and coming back for monitoring!
Just my  experience.
PT





 From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27  AM
Subject: RE: CSCS  and RA

try CS + LDN together.

both provide broad immune  support; CS kills directly also. 
RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue   that's what LDN excels at.

 -Original  Message-
 From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSCS and RA
 
 Hello
 
 Am new to  this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
  remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
 minocin  made me 
 sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad  bacteria that I 
 think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has  success using 
 colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
 
 Thanks
 Monique


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RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-20 Thread bob Larson
it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced
trials and patents are underway for new use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must
have a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx
an off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness
is spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks.  


  _  

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT


 



Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-20 Thread PT Ferrance
How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
Thanks.
PT





From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 4:31:15 PM
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

 
it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be  changing as advanced 
trials and patents are underway for new  use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical  industry you must have 
a 
prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside  their boxes and Rx an 
off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although  LDN awareness is 
spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts  over two weeks.  



 From: PT Ferrance[mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS andRA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT

 

Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-20 Thread Jane MacRoss
SLowly?
  - Original Message - 
  From: PT Ferrance 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:46 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


  How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
  Thanks.
  PT




Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-20 Thread Lena Guyot
I sent this earlier but it mustn't have gone through.
You can get naltrexone (called Naltima) from the offshore source, 
alldaychemist.com without a prescription. Then, by putting one tablet in a 
bottle of 50 ml of distilled water and shaking, you have just made 
low-dose-naltrexone.(actually better than dealing with a compounding pharmacy 
where sometimes other fillers are added) Most people start with just a drop of 
this LDN (one ml), and slowly work up to perhaps 4. 
alldaychemist.com is reputable: many of us have used them in several groups. 
The prices are low, shipping costs a bit high and delivery is at least 2 weeks. 
They don't take credit cards; just money orders now.Their products are all 
excellent quality. 
Be well,
Léna
On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:46 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
 Thanks.
 PT
 
 From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 4:31:15 PM
 Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
 it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced 
 trials and patents are underway for new use.
 yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
 so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must have 
 a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx an 
 off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness is 
 spreading.
 many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks. 
 
 From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
 But don't you need a prescription for it?
 PT
  



RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-20 Thread bob Larson
...they're the cheapest and have been fine for me.
flat $25 shipping for any size order to the USA so to be the best deal i
spend at least $125 per order.  they have other stuff of interest of course.
doing like that my LDN costs less than $6/month


  _  

From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


I sent this earlier but it mustn't have gone through. 
You can get naltrexone (called Naltima) from the offshore source,
alldaychemist.com http://alldaychemist.com/  without a prescription. Then,
by putting one tablet in a bottle of 50 ml of distilled water and shaking,
you have just made low-dose-naltrexone.(actually better than dealing with a
compounding pharmacy where sometimes other fillers are added) Most people
start with just a drop of this LDN (one ml), and slowly work up to perhaps
4.  
alldaychemist.com http://alldaychemist.com/  is reputable: many of us have
used them in several groups. The prices are low, shipping costs a bit high
and delivery is at least 2 weeks. They don't take credit cards; just money
orders now.Their products are all excellent quality. 
Be well,
Léna
On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:46 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:



How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
Thanks.
PT




RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

2013-01-20 Thread bob Larson
it comes in 50mg tabs only.  Rx compounders make smaller doses from bulk
powder, or some might grind up tabs and add filler.
 
the usual way is to dissolve one tab in 50ml Distilled (or RO) water.  then
1 ml of liquid = 1 mg naltrexone.
keeps in the frig for over a month, or room temp for up to a month.
mix it in a dark bottle with a dropper in the cap... use the dropper to put
it in a baby med spoon' which has lines marked in ml.
mix into any drink or have it straight down... slightly bitter, not very bad
taste at all and doesn't linger long 


  _  

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
Thanks.
PT