Re: Mike, pls read: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-10 Thread Jane MacRoss
The moderator can trace  delete the post - oh this isn't a yahoo group - 
not sure about eskimo


Jane



I do wish there were a way to go to the archives and delete that old post 
of mine with the mistaken cataract info. Or to at least edit the post to 
add that I was wrong.



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Re: Mike, pls read: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-10 Thread M.G. Devour
On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 22:11 -0700, sol wrote:
 I do wish there were a way to go to the archives and delete that old 
 post of mine with the mistaken cataract info. Or to at least edit the 
 post to add that I was wrong.
 
 Mike? Any way to do that?

Can anybody dig up the date of that post, please?

The archive owners will delete an occasional post for me if I ask.

Be well,

Mike D.




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DATE FOUND..... Mike, pls read: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-10 Thread bob Larson
...found it:
IT WAS POSTED ON A DIFFERENT LIST, 

From: ldn_us...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ldn_us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of sol
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:53 AM
To: ldn_us...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] Re: puzzled Nastja - Shingles -once-daily 500mg
Valtrex

bob Larson wrote:
 silver doesn't kill human cells, AFAIK... that's a new one to me.
   
I once reattached a flap of skin wetting it with silver and pasting it 
back into place, then keeping a silver wetted bandaid over it for a 
couple days, rewetting when it dried out. It healed right back into 
place. If silver killed human cells, I fail to see how that could have 
happened.
 unlike antibiotics, it appears true that microbes don't develop immunity
to
 silver through mutation.
 also, in my exp of using quite a lot for a long time it doesn't wipe out
gut
 flora and allow candida overgrowth either.
   
I once took between a pint and a quart of my homemade pure CS (12-15 
ppm) a day, every day for approx 2.5 years. I am not blue, I did not 
kill off all my gut bacteria, but I DID succeed in knocking candida to a 
level that stopped me being lactose intolerant, and I feel I also 
drasticaly lowered my levels of EBV, though I have no proof of that.
I am not blue either. I still use my CS daily as mouthwash after 
brushing/flossing, and I mist eyes, inhale the mist, and mist my hands 
and wash them with it every time I'm out in public, soon as I get back 
to my car. No colds, no flus. And a glass of CS will stop any tummy 
upset from contaminated food virtually immediately.
Most recently, a routine including eye drops of CS-MSM-DMSO alternating 
with carnitine eye drops and taking lutein bilberry seems to have 
eliminated cataracts  I was diagnosed with last year.  I now have no 
cloudiness in the eye lenses at all.
sol



 -Original Message-

 
 Can anybody dig up the date of that post, please?
 
 The archive owners will delete an occasional post for me if I ask.
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.


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Re: DATE FOUND..... Mike, pls read: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-10 Thread finplan65

and I feel I also 
drasticaly lowered my levels of EBV,

I have been diagnosed with EBV as well. Any other remedies you can suggest? 
Thanks




 From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:06 PM
Subject: DATE FOUND. Mike, pls read: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS
 
...found it:
IT WAS POSTED ON A DIFFERENT LIST, 

From: ldn_us...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ldn_us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of sol
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:53 AM
To: ldn_us...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LDN_Users] Re: puzzled Nastja - Shingles -once-daily 500mg
Valtrex

bob Larson wrote:
 silver doesn't kill human cells, AFAIK... that's a new one to me.
  
I once reattached a flap of skin wetting it with silver and pasting it 
back into place, then keeping a silver wetted bandaid over it for a 
couple days, rewetting when it dried out. It healed right back into 
place. If silver killed human cells, I fail to see how that could have 
happened.
 unlike antibiotics, it appears true that microbes don't develop immunity
to
 silver through mutation.
 also, in my exp of using quite a lot for a long time it doesn't wipe out
gut
 flora and allow candida overgrowth either.
  
I once took between a pint and a quart of my homemade pure CS (12-15 
ppm) a day, every day for approx 2.5 years. I am not blue, I did not 
kill off all my gut bacteria, but I DID succeed in knocking candida to a 
level that stopped me being lactose intolerant, and I feel I also 
drasticaly lowered my levels of EBV, though I have no proof of that.
I am not blue either. I still use my CS daily as mouthwash after 
brushing/flossing, and I mist eyes, inhale the mist, and mist my hands 
and wash them with it every time I'm out in public, soon as I get back 
to my car. No colds, no flus. And a glass of CS will stop any tummy 
upset from contaminated food virtually immediately.
Most recently, a routine including eye drops of CS-MSM-DMSO alternating 
with carnitine eye drops and taking lutein bilberry seems to have 
eliminated cataracts  I was diagnosed with last year.  I now have no 
cloudiness in the eye lenses at all.
sol



 -Original Message-

 
 Can anybody dig up the date of that post, please?
 
 The archive owners will delete an occasional post for me if I ask.
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.


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Re: DATE FOUND..... Mike, pls read: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-10 Thread sol
Wow, Bob, you are GOOD! I don't even remember ever being on that list, 
but checking my yahoo groups list, I still am, but I couldn't find the 
post from me to edit or delete it. Darn. Very good catch though!

sol

bob Larson wrote:

...found it:
IT WAS POSTED ON A DIFFERENT LIST, 


From: ldn_us...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ldn_us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of sol
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:53 AM
  



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Epstein-Barr Virus, was Re: DATE FOUND..... Mike, pls read: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-10 Thread sol
Not off the top of my head, but I found the book Chronic Fatigue 
Syndrome By Jesse Stoff interesting, and helpful to some extent.

It really has been too long ago, and obviously my memory isn't the best.
sorry,
sol

finplan65 wrote:


and I feel I also
drasticaly lowered my levels of EBV,

I have been diagnosed with EBV as well. Any other remedies you can 
suggest? Thanks



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Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-09 Thread sol

bob Larson wrote:

not it, but interesting:

Most recently, a routine including eye drops of CS-MSM-DMSO alternating 
with carnitine eye drops and taking lutein bilberry seems to have 
eliminated cataracts  I was diagnosed with last year.  I now have no 
cloudiness in the eye lenses at all.

sol
  

bob,

As I have posted several times in the past year and more, what I thought 
was elimination of my cataracts was a mis-understanding on my part of 
what the eye doctor told me. So though I did manage to slow the cataract 
progression somewhat, I did end up having to have the surgery after all.

sol
P.S. I tried to email you a reply to your inquiry but it was bounced 
back to me.



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Mike, pls read: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-09 Thread sol
I do wish there were a way to go to the archives and delete that old 
post of mine with the mistaken cataract info. Or to at least edit the 
post to add that I was wrong.


Mike? Any way to do that?

sol





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RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-09 Thread bob Larson
...the guy who wanted to know is on the list, so...

too bad it didn't work for you.   

 -Original Message-
 From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:56 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS
 
 bob Larson wrote:
  not it, but interesting:
 
  Most recently, a routine including eye drops of 
 CS-MSM-DMSO alternating 
  with carnitine eye drops and taking lutein bilberry seems to have 
  eliminated cataracts  I was diagnosed with last year.  I 
 now have no 
  cloudiness in the eye lenses at all.
  sol

 bob,
 
 As I have posted several times in the past year and more, 
 what I thought 
 was elimination of my cataracts was a mis-understanding on my part of 
 what the eye doctor told me. So though I did manage to slow 
 the cataract 
 progression somewhat, I did end up having to have the surgery 
 after all.
 sol
 P.S. I tried to email you a reply to your inquiry but it was bounced 
 back to me.
 
 
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Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-08 Thread PT Ferrance
I have been taught that the mouth is the dirtiest orifice in the body there for 
I would not consider putting my saliva in my eyes even if it was mixed with EIS 
as EIS is not effective against every microbe and I would be concerned about 
getting one it did nothing to eradicate.  Please consider the consequences of 
this before proceeding... we only get one set of eyes.
PT





From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, February 7, 2013 11:21:53 PM
Subject: RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

...ok, i'll try to fine it...

not it, but interesting:

Most recently, a routine including eye drops of CS-MSM-DMSO alternating 
with carnitine eye drops and taking lutein bilberry seems to have 
eliminated cataracts  I was diagnosed with last year.  I now have no 
cloudiness in the eye lenses at all.
sol

still looking...here's another:

Thought I'd throw this in. I was involved in ayurvedic medicine through the
TM movement years ago. Depak Chopra was their main spokesperson at the time,
and was taught that medical knowledge through the TM movement. In a talk I
attended, he described the traditional way of dissolving cataracts, which is
dead cells in the lens??? He said in India, the therapy consists of using
your own saliva, mixed with clean water and swished into the eye with an eye
cup. The enzymes a person's saliva will gradually dissolve cataracts. Cheap.
Cheap as spit. Couldn't be simpler. I know I'll try it if I ever have the
need. Here's mud, I mean spit in yer eye...

i give up for now... have to go out a bit, will look again later.





From: Ron Minnick [mailto:shadowcreekf...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:03 PM
To: CS site
Subject: RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS


I would definitely would like to see and read all about it, if you
would, please .  thanks   Doreen


 From: bobli...@att.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS
 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:22:45 -0800
 
 ...i dunno.
 silver seems to be able cause some interesting reactions in the
body aside
 from directly killing microbes. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:11 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS
  
  Interesting. Is there any theory as to why that helped? Maybe
there 
  was an infection in the lens, and the CS cleared it up?
  
  Marshall
  
  On 2/6/2013 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:
  
   ...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've 
  even been true.
   haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:
  
   the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled 
  for cataract
   surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her 
  eyes every hour
   or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks. when 
  they went for the
   surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
   i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad
enough.
  
   bobL
  
 
 
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Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-07 Thread Marshall
Interesting.  Is there any theory as to why that helped?  Maybe there 
was an infection in the lens, and the CS cleared it up?


Marshall

On 2/6/2013 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:


...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've even been true.
haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:

the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled for cataract
surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her eyes every hour
or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks.  when they went for the
surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad enough.

bobL



From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSHello and question ABOUT CATARACTS



Melody wrote: But what I need to know now is :** if anyone has used
CS as an eye drop to treat beginning cataract development.** I got DX with
them last week ( both eye) and of course the Dr.wants to fix then for me.


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RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-07 Thread bob Larson
...i dunno.
silver seems to be able cause some interesting reactions in the body aside
from directly killing microbes. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:11 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS
 
 Interesting.  Is there any theory as to why that helped?  Maybe there 
 was an infection in the lens, and the CS cleared it up?
 
 Marshall
 
 On 2/6/2013 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:
 
  ...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've 
 even been true.
  haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:
 
  the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled 
 for cataract
  surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her 
 eyes every hour
  or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks.  when 
 they went for the
  surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
  i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad enough.
 
  bobL
 


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RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-07 Thread Ron Minnick

I would definitely would like to see and read all about it, if you would, 
please .  thanks   Doreen
  From: bobli...@att.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS
 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:22:45 -0800
 
 ...i dunno.
 silver seems to be able cause some interesting reactions in the body aside
 from directly killing microbes. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:11 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS
  
  Interesting.  Is there any theory as to why that helped?  Maybe there 
  was an infection in the lens, and the CS cleared it up?
  
  Marshall
  
  On 2/6/2013 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:
  
   ...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've 
  even been true.
   haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:
  
   the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled 
  for cataract
   surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her 
  eyes every hour
   or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks.  when 
  they went for the
   surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
   i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad enough.
  
   bobL
  
 
 
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RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-07 Thread bob Larson
...ok, i'll try to fine it...

not it, but interesting:

Most recently, a routine including eye drops of CS-MSM-DMSO alternating 
with carnitine eye drops and taking lutein bilberry seems to have 
eliminated cataracts  I was diagnosed with last year.  I now have no 
cloudiness in the eye lenses at all.
sol

still looking...here's another:

Thought I'd throw this in. I was involved in ayurvedic medicine through the
TM movement years ago. Depak Chopra was their main spokesperson at the time,
and was taught that medical knowledge through the TM movement. In a talk I
attended, he described the traditional way of dissolving cataracts, which is
dead cells in the lens??? He said in India, the therapy consists of using
your own saliva, mixed with clean water and swished into the eye with an eye
cup. The enzymes a person's saliva will gradually dissolve cataracts. Cheap.
Cheap as spit. Couldn't be simpler. I know I'll try it if I ever have the
need. Here's mud, I mean spit in yer eye...

i give up for now... have to go out a bit, will look again later.
 




From: Ron Minnick [mailto:shadowcreekf...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:03 PM
To: CS site
Subject: RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS


I would definitely would like to see and read all about it, if you
would, please .  thanks   Doreen
 

 From: bobli...@att.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSCS vs. CATARACTS
 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:22:45 -0800
 
 ...i dunno.
 silver seems to be able cause some interesting reactions in the
body aside
 from directly killing microbes. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:11 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS
  
  Interesting. Is there any theory as to why that helped? Maybe
there 
  was an infection in the lens, and the CS cleared it up?
  
  Marshall
  
  On 2/6/2013 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:
  
   ...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've 
  even been true.
   haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:
  
   the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled 
  for cataract
   surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her 
  eyes every hour
   or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks. when 
  they went for the
   surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
   i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad
enough.
  
   bobL
  
 
 
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Re: CSCS vs. CATARACTS

2013-02-06 Thread Lena Guyot
Hi Bob,
Well, it couldn't hurt. Maybe I should just do my EIS/CS drops more frequently. 
I suspect that adding some DMSO, although it's a bit less comfortable, would 
serve to help carry off the cataract material, as it generally helps rid cells 
of toxins and waste materials.

Be well,
Léna
On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:53 PM, bob Larson wrote:

 
 ...i read somebodies mssg on some yahoogroup that might've even been true.
 haven't seen anyone mention it during this thread yet:
 
 the guy who posted said his ancient mother was scheduled for cataract
 surgery in a couple weeks or so... he sprayed EIS/CS in her eyes every hour
 or so all the time she was awake for a couple weeks.  when they went for the
 surgery she didn't need it - no more cataracts.
 i could probably find that mssg if anybody wants it bad enough.
 
 bobL
 
 
 
   From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] 
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:57 PM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: RE: CSHello and question ABOUT CATARACTS
   
   
 
   Melody wrote: But what I need to know now is :** if anyone has used
 CS as an eye drop to treat beginning cataract development.** I got DX with
 them last week ( both eye) and of course the Dr.wants to fix then for me. 
 
 
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