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Yes -according to beekeeping book. From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net Date: 2006/09/22 Fri PM 10:47:53 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: RE: CShoney to faith with germs do you mean any microbes, fungus, viral, bacteria, etc... Is the water the hydrate from the microbes, so it would kill by dehydrating the microbes? Ed -Original Message- From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net [mailto:noblemet...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: RE: CShoney to faith Honey produces H2O2 when in contact with germs. From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net Date: 2006/09/22 Fri PM 12:36:24 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShoney to faith I thought part of the healing power of Honey or Sugar for external application was in the osmosis (spelling) the drawing in/sealing off the wound. Sorta dehydrates the infection. If that were the case the microbogicaly activity would not matter. Although IMO, everything helps, and Raw is optimum. Ed Kasper LAc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShoney to faith
I buy my honey in $16.00 half gallon jars (about three months worth) from my local health food store. It is stocked from local beekeepers and very good. If your stores do not carry it try phoning a local beekeeper and they will normally be very glad to help you out. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From: Carol Ann To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: CShoney to faith So where and how do we get the good honey? Local bee keepers only? Staya Udanvti Bob Butler cheroke...@cox.net wrote: For HONEY to be an effective herbal remedy it must be Raw, natural, un-processed, un-heated, un-filtered, honey. Real honey as extracted from the combs will contain bits of wax, pollen beads, propolis, and bee body parts. This will not sell in stores. I know of no way to put the organic title to honey as the bees will travel up to fifty miles away. If someone is touting organic then their honey must come from a very remote island at least 50 miles from any other land. Heating above 105� F kills the beneficial enzymes. Microwaving honey also destroys the enzymes. Typical honey analysis: Fructose: 38%, Glucose: 31%, Sucrose: 1%, Water: 17%, Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose), Ash: 0.17% .. Source: Sugar Alliance Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From: zeb caffe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: CShoney to faith Just wondering, what does the honey do for the flora? I know that coffee is supposed to help detox the liver.Does honey have a different effect? Also, does it matter what type of honey you use? -- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger�s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V -- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
RE: CShoney to faith
You know, I kind of wonder about this. Heating honey may deactivate some enzymes and so on and make it ineffective for certain things. However, even sugar is supposed to have beneficial effects when put onto a wound, drawing and sterilizing, so I would think that honey would at least work in a similar manner, regardless of whether it has been heated or not. Dan From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler [mailto:cheroke...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShoney to faith For HONEY to be an effective herbal remedy it must be Raw, natural, un-processed, un-heated, un-filtered, honey. Real honey as extracted from the combs will contain bits of wax, pollen beads, propolis, and bee body parts. This will not sell in stores. I know of no way to put the organic title to honey as the bees will travel up to fifty miles away. If someone is touting organic then their honey must come from a very remote island at least 50 miles from any other land. Heating above 105³ F kills the beneficial enzymes. Microwaving honey also destroys the enzymes. Typical honey analysis: Fructose: 38%, Glucose: 31%, Sucrose: 1%, Water: 17%, Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose), Ash: 0.17% .. Source: Sugar Alliance Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From: zeb caffe mailto:jamaki...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: CShoney to faith Just wondering, what does the honey do for the flora? I know that coffee is supposed to help detox the liver.Does honey have a different effect? Also, does it matter what type of honey you use? How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39663/*http://voice.yahoo.com
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Bob, Considering the cost of filtered processed honeywhat you pay is a bargain. I'll see if there are local beekeepers around. Thanks. Staya Udanvti Bob Butler cheroke...@cox.net wrote: I buy my honey in $16.00 half gallon jars (about three months worth) from my local health food store. It is stocked from local beekeepers and very good. If your stores do not carry it try phoning a local beekeeper and they will normally be very glad to help you out. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
RE: CShoney to faith
I thought part of the healing power of Honey or Sugar for external application was in the osmosis (spelling) the drawing in/sealing off the wound. Sorta dehydrates the infection. If that were the case the microbogicaly activity would not matter. Although IMO, everything helps, and Raw is optimum. Ed Kasper LAc. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShoney to faith You know, I kind of wonder about this. Heating honey may deactivate some enzymes and so on and make it ineffective for certain things. However, even sugar is supposed to have beneficial effects when put onto a wound, drawing and sterilizing, so I would think that honey would at least work in a similar manner, regardless of whether it has been heated or not. Dan -- From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler [mailto:cheroke...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShoney to faith For HONEY to be an effective herbal remedy it must be Raw, natural, un-processed, un-heated, un-filtered, honey. Real honey as extracted from the combs will contain bits of wax, pollen beads, propolis, and bee body parts. This will not sell in stores. I know of no way to put the organic title to honey as the bees will travel up to fifty miles away. If someone is touting organic then their honey must come from a very remote island at least 50 miles from any other land. Heating above 105³ F kills the beneficial enzymes. Microwaving honey also destroys the enzymes. Typical honey analysis: Fructose: 38%, Glucose: 31%, Sucrose: 1%, Water: 17%, Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose), Ash: 0.17% .. Source: Sugar Alliance Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti
CSRe: RE: CShoney to faith
Honey produces H2O2 when in contact with germs. From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net Date: 2006/09/22 Fri PM 12:36:24 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShoney to faith I thought part of the healing power of Honey or Sugar for external application was in the osmosis (spelling) the drawing in/sealing off the wound. Sorta dehydrates the infection. If that were the case the microbogicaly activity would not matter. Although IMO, everything helps, and Raw is optimum. Ed Kasper LAc. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShoney to faith You know, I kind of wonder about this. Heating honey may deactivate some enzymes and so on and make it ineffective for certain things. However, even sugar is supposed to have beneficial effects when put onto a wound, drawing and sterilizing, so I would think that honey would at least work in a similar manner, regardless of whether it has been heated or not. Dan -- From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler [mailto:cheroke...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShoney to faith For HONEY to be an effective herbal remedy it must be Raw, natural, un-processed, un-heated, un-filtered, honey. Real honey as extracted from the combs will contain bits of wax, pollen beads, propolis, and bee body parts. This will not sell in stores. I know of no way to put the organic title to honey as the bees will travel up to fifty miles away. If someone is touting organic then their honey must come from a very remote island at least 50 miles from any other land. Heating above 105³ F kills the beneficial enzymes. Microwaving honey also destroys the enzymes. Typical honey analysis: Fructose: 38%, Glucose: 31%, Sucrose: 1%, Water: 17%, Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose), Ash: 0.17% .. Source: Sugar Alliance Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: RE: CShoney to faith
with germs do you mean any microbes, fungus, viral, bacteria, etc... Is the water the hydrate from the microbes, so it would kill by dehydrating the microbes? Ed -Original Message- From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net [mailto:noblemet...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: RE: CShoney to faith Honey produces H2O2 when in contact with germs. From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net Date: 2006/09/22 Fri PM 12:36:24 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShoney to faith I thought part of the healing power of Honey or Sugar for external application was in the osmosis (spelling) the drawing in/sealing off the wound. Sorta dehydrates the infection. If that were the case the microbogicaly activity would not matter. Although IMO, everything helps, and Raw is optimum. Ed Kasper LAc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShoney to faith
For HONEY to be an effective herbal remedy it must be Raw, natural, un-processed, un-heated, un-filtered, honey. Real honey as extracted from the combs will contain bits of wax, pollen beads, propolis, and bee body parts. This will not sell in stores. I know of no way to put the organic title to honey as the bees will travel up to fifty miles away. If someone is touting organic then their honey must come from a very remote island at least 50 miles from any other land. Heating above 105³ F kills the beneficial enzymes. Microwaving honey also destroys the enzymes. Typical honey analysis: Fructose: 38%, Glucose: 31%, Sucrose: 1%, Water: 17%, Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose), Ash: 0.17% .. Source: Sugar Alliance Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From: zeb caffe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: CShoney to faith Just wondering, what does the honey do for the flora? I know that coffee is supposed to help detox the liver.Does honey have a different effect? Also, does it matter what type of honey you use? -- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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50 miles!!! Here in Tn. we beekeepers figure 3 mile radius. - Original Message - From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: CShoney to faith For HONEY to be an effective herbal remedy it must be Raw, natural, un-processed, un-heated, un-filtered, honey. Real honey as extracted from the combs will contain bits of wax, pollen beads, propolis, and bee body parts. This will not sell in stores. I know of no way to put the organic title to honey as the bees will travel up to fifty miles away. If someone is touting organic then their honey must come from a very remote island at least 50 miles from any other land. Heating above 105³ F kills the beneficial enzymes. Microwaving honey also destroys the enzymes. Typical honey analysis: Fructose: 38%, Glucose: 31%, Sucrose: 1%, Water: 17%, Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose), Ash: 0.17% .. Source: Sugar Alliance Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From: zeb caffe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: CShoney to faith Just wondering, what does the honey do for the flora? I know that coffee is supposed to help detox the liver.Does honey have a different effect? Also, does it matter what type of honey you use? How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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Back in the 1980's when I was keeping bees in Yuma AZ we got a new taste we had never before had. It came from the thousands of acres of rape seed over in Imperial Valley approximately 50 miles bee line. Maybe the lack of pollen in our citrus groves were not keeping them happy. This was when the citrus farmers were cutting their groves out because it cost them to have them picked and packed. Maybe the deserts lack of vegetation is a factor?. This is why I said 50 miles. - Original Message - From: T J Garland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:46 PM Subject: Re: CShoney to faith 50 miles!!! Here in Tn. we beekeepers figure 3 mile radius. - Original Message - From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: CShoney to faith For HONEY to be an effective herbal remedy it must be Raw, natural, un-processed, un-heated, un-filtered, honey. Real honey as extracted from the combs will contain bits of wax, pollen beads, propolis, and bee body parts. This will not sell in stores. I know of no way to put the organic title to honey as the bees will travel up to fifty miles away. If someone is touting organic then their honey must come from a very remote island at least 50 miles from any other land. Heating above 105³ F kills the beneficial enzymes. Microwaving honey also destroys the enzymes. Typical honey analysis: Fructose: 38%, Glucose: 31%, Sucrose: 1%, Water: 17%, Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose), Ash: 0.17% .. Source: Sugar Alliance Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From: zeb caffe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: CShoney to faith Just wondering, what does the honey do for the flora? I know that coffee is supposed to help detox the liver.Does honey have a different effect? Also, does it matter what type of honey you use? -- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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So where and how do we get the good honey? Local bee keepers only? Staya Udanvti Bob Butler cheroke...@cox.net wrote: For HONEY to be an effective herbal remedy it must be Raw, natural, un-processed, un-heated, un-filtered, honey. Real honey as extracted from the combs will contain bits of wax, pollen beads, propolis, and bee body parts. This will not sell in stores. I know of no way to put the organic title to honey as the bees will travel up to fifty miles away. If someone is touting organic then their honey must come from a very remote island at least 50 miles from any other land. Heating above 105� F kills the beneficial enzymes. Microwaving honey also destroys the enzymes. Typical honey analysis: Fructose: 38%, Glucose: 31%, Sucrose: 1%, Water: 17%, Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose), Ash: 0.17% .. Source: Sugar Alliance Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From:zeb caffe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:26PM Subject: CShoney to faith Just wondering, what does the honey do for the flora? I knowthat coffee is supposed to help detox the liver.Does honey have a differenteffect? Also, does it matter what type of honey you use? - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger�s low PC-to-Phonecall rates. Carol Ann People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
