Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-24 Thread Marshall Dudley
I run into this quite often.  Try taking the mouse and highlighting the
text, it will probably then become white on a black background.

Marshall

omega 3 wrote:

 i cannot read the list of ingredients when printed blue on a black
 background.

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Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-24 Thread Marshall Dudley
Try a drug store.  It is the white stuff that use to be used as a sun
block, and still is sometimes, and is used in many foot fungus
ointments. I believe it is also what it in the white ointment diaper
rash stuff as well. The drugest will likely have it behind the counter.

Marshall

Sally Khanna wrote:

 Where can we get zinc chloride?  Don't know if I've ever seen
 it. thanks,Sally

 Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

  I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I
  particular, I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in
  combination
  or as complementary protocols.

  BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great
  book.
  Spontaneous Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent
  book were
  a bit disappointing. . . )

  Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can
  save lives.
  Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested.

  JBB





  This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the
  cansema. But
  this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin
  cancer
  like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner
  of cancers
  provided that they have become exposed to or close to the
  surface of
  the skin.

  1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis)
  1/2 cup Zinc Chlorid! e, crystals or liquid
  1/2 cup common white flour
  1 1/2 cup warm water
  100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral
  (Larrea mexicana)

  Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the
  water.
  Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then
  stir in the
  other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook
  for thirty
  minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application
  is much
  the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste
  over the
  affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the
  covering but do
  not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the
  cancer out
  at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some
  people with
  sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the
  paste does
  not irritate the skin.




  On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper
  wrote:

   Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did
  you! make a
   tincture,
   how strong how applied.
   Thanks
  
   Ed
  
   -Original Message-
   From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
   Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT
  
  
   Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in
  large
   quantities
   it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small
  but sustained
   dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same
  internally as
   it does
   topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased
  cells while
   leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell
  wall allowing
   the
   immune system to identify and destroy that which was
  living inside of
   it...
   virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is
  quite old
   and has
   its roots in American ! Indian herbal medicine. I've used
  it
   successfully for
   skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a
  tremendous
   macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration
  and complete
   healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin
  is dwarfed
   severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and
  around it. I've
   used
   CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had
  any problems
   with
   sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities
  bloodroot can be
   toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle
  substance.
  
   Bob
  
  
  
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RE: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE FORMATTING

2005-01-24 Thread Louise
I often forward the mail (well start to and then I have the option to change
the font size colour etc. with out actually sending the mail anywhere but I
then have the option to change the formatting.

Louise

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From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE


I run into this quite often.  Try taking the mouse and highlighting the
text, it will probably then become white on a black background.

Marshall

omega 3 wrote:

 i cannot read the list of ingredients when printed blue on a black
 background.

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Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-24 Thread Roger Barker
Thanks Jonathon, now to try and source all the ingredients down here in NZ


Cheers,  Roger
http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html




on 24/1/2005 7:04 PM, Jonathan B. Britten at jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
wrote:

I do not know.  I did read that zinc chloride preserves the paste.
The now-unavailable Cancema salve has a very long shelf-life.Bottom
line:  all of the ingredients are modestly priced so you could make it
as you need it even if it did go bad.

On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 13:46 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote:

Could you please tell me how long this paste could be stored and how
would you recommend storing it?

Many thanks,  Roger B


Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-24 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Roger,

You are quite welcome.   Please note that the proprietary Cancema 
formula has some additional ingredients.I am hoping somewhere to 
find the recipe for that;  in fact,  I have asked the atlcancer  
company to consider releasing this proprietary information if they are 
unable to start up their company.That is a great deal to ask and if 
the shoes were on the other feet,  I probably would not grant that 
request myself . . . .



JBB



On Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005, at 06:29 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote:

Thanks Jonathon, now to try and source all the ingredients down here 
in NZ



Cheers,  Roger
http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html




on 24/1/2005 7:04 PM, Jonathan B. Britten at 
jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp

wrote:

I do not know.  I did read that zinc chloride preserves the paste.    
The now-unavailable Cancema salve has a very long shelf-life.    Bottom
line:  all of the ingredients are modestly priced so you could make it
as you need it even if it did go bad.

On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 13:46 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote:

Could you please tell me how long this paste could be stored and how
would you recommend storing it?

Many thanks,  Roger B

Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-24 Thread Roger Barker
Good luck with your quest Jonathan.


on 25/1/2005 3:07 PM, Jonathan B. Britten at jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
wrote:

Roger,

You are quite welcome.   Please note that the proprietary Cancema
formula has some additional ingredients.I am hoping somewhere to
find the recipe for that;  in fact,  I have asked the atlcancer
company to consider releasing this proprietary information if they are
unable to start up their company.That is a great deal to ask and if
the shoes were on the other feet,  I probably would not grant that
request myself . . . .


JBB



On Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005, at 06:29 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote:

Thanks Jonathon, now to try and source all the ingredients down here
in NZ 


RE: CStetrasil, etc.

2005-01-23 Thread Ed Kasper
Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture,
how strong how applied.
Thanks

Ed

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT


Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities
it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained
dosages when ingested.   It works pretty much the same internally as it does
topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while
leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the
immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it...
virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites.  Escharotic therapy is quite old and has
its roots in American Indian herbal medicine.  I've used it successfully for
skin cancer and sarcoid tumors.   In every case there is a tremendous
macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete
healing.  Amazing really.  The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed
severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it.  I've used
CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with
sepsis or scarring.  I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be
toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance.

Bob



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Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-23 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I'm with Ed:  the more information we can get,  the better. I 
particular,  I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination 
or as complementary protocols.


BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book.  
Spontaneous Healing.   This is a must-have.   (The subsequent book were 
a bit disappointing. . . )


Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve.This can save lives. 
   Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested.


JBB





This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But 
this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all  suspect skin cancer 
like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers 
provided that they  have become exposed to or close to the surface of 
the skin.


1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis)
1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid
1/2 cup common white flour
1 1/2 cup warm water
100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana)

Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. 
Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in  water, then stir in the 
other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty 
minutes over boiling  water, stirring constantly. Application is much 
the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste  over the 
affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do 
not disturb the lesion at all, do  not attempt to pull the cancer out 
at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with 
sensitive skin  put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does 
not irritate the skin.





On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote:

Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a 
tincture,

how strong how applied.
Thanks

Ed

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT


Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large 
quantities

it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained
dosages when ingested.   It works pretty much the same internally as 
it does

topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while
leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing 
the
immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of 
it...
virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites.  Escharotic therapy is quite old 
and has
its roots in American Indian herbal medicine.  I've used it 
successfully for

skin cancer and sarcoid tumors.   In every case there is a tremendous
macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete
healing.  Amazing really.  The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed
severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it.  I've 
used
CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems 
with

sepsis or scarring.  I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be
toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance.

Bob



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Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-23 Thread omega 3
i cannot read the list of ingredients when printed blue on a black
background.


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Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-23 Thread Sally Khanna
Where can we get zinc chloride?  Don't know if I've ever seen it.
 
thanks,
Sally

Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I 
particular, I have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination 
or as complementary protocols.

BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. 
Spontaneous Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were 
a bit disappointing. . . )

Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives. 
Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested.

JBB





This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But 
this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer 
like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers 
provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of 
the skin.

1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis)
1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid
1/2 cup common white flour
1 1/2 cup warm water
100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana)

Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. 
Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the 
other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty 
minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much 
the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the 
affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do 
not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out 
at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with 
sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does 
not irritate the skin.




On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote:

 Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a 
 tincture,
 how strong how applied.
 Thanks

 Ed

 -Original Message-
 From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT


 Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large 
 quantities
 it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained
 dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as 
 it does
 topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while
 leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing 
 the
 immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of 
 it...
 virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old 
 and has
 its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it 
 successfully for
 skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous
 macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete
 healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed
 severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've 
 used
 CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems 
 with
 sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be
 toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance.

 Bob



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Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-23 Thread Roger Barker
Could you please tell me how long this paste could be stored and how would
you recommend storing it?

Many thanks,  Roger B



This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But
this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer
like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers
provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of
the skin.

1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis)
1/2 cup Zinc Chlorid! e, crystals or liquid
1/2 cup common white flour
1 1/2 cup warm water
100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana)

Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water.
Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the
other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty
minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much
the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the
affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do
not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out
at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with
sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does
not irritate the skin.





RE: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-23 Thread Ed Kasper
I think chaparral  has some cautionary about use.
caution with history of liver disease. discontinue if nausea, fever,
fatigue or jaundice occur

bloodroot cautionary
not to use while pregnant, may cause vomiting and nausea  do not exceed
recommended dosage
bloodroot is pretty expensive stuff so most folks will use  sparingly.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA.



   -Original Message-
  From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
  Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:15 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE


  I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I
have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary
protocols.

  BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous
Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing.
. . )

  Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives.
Kindly pass on the recipe to anyone interested.

  JBB





  This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this
is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions.
This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they
have become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin.

  1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis)
  1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid
  1/2 cup common white flour
  1 1/2 cup warm water
  100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana)

  Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a
stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other
ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over
boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema.
Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for
24 hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do
not attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10
days or so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer
so that the paste does not irritate the skin.




  On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote:


Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a
tincture,
how strong how applied.
Thanks

Ed

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT


Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large
quantities
it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained
dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it
does
topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while
leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing
the
immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of
it...
virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and
has
its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully
for
skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous
macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete
healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed
severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've
used
CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems
with
sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be
toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance.

Bob






Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-23 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I do not know.  I did read that zinc chloride preserves the paste.
The now-unavailable Cancema salve has a very long shelf-life.Bottom 
line:  all of the ingredients are modestly priced so you could make it 
as you need it even if it did go bad.


On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 13:46 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote:

Could you please tell me how long this paste could be stored and how 
would you recommend storing it?


Many thanks,  Roger B



This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But
this is a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer
like lesions. This paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers
provided that they have become exposed to or close to the surface of
the skin.

1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis)
1/2 cup Zinc Chlorid! e, crystals or liquid
1/2 cup common white flour
1 1/2 cup warm water
100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea 
mexicana)


Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water.
Using a stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the
other ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty
minutes over boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much
the same as cansema. Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the
affected area and cover for 24 hours. Then remove the covering but do
not disturb the lesion at all, do not attempt to pull the cancer out
at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or so. Some people with
sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the paste does
not irritate the skin.




RE: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-23 Thread Sally Khanna
I took chaparral tincture several years ago for a chest infection.  Think I 
took it for several days.  
 
We were talking about a skin salve though, weren't we?  It should be safe for 
that.
 
Sally

Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote:
I think chaparral  has some cautionary about use. 
caution with history of liver disease. discontinue if nausea, fever, fatigue 
or jaundice occur
 
bloodroot cautionary
not to use while pregnant, may cause vomiting and nausea  do not exceed 
recommended dosage
bloodroot is pretty expensive stuff so most folks will use  sparingly. 
 

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Acupuncture is a jab well done
www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA. 

 
 
 -Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE 


I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I have 
read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary 
protocols. 

BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous 
Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing. . 
. ) 

Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives. Kindly 
pass on the recipe to anyone interested. 

JBB





This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is a 
preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This 
paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have 
become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 

1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 
1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid 
1/2 cup common white flour 
1 1/2 cup warm water 
100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) 

Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a 
stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other 
ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over 
boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. 
Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 
hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not 
attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or 
so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the 
paste does not irritate the skin. 




On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote:

Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a tincture,
how strong how applied.
Thanks

Ed

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT


Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities
it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained
dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does
topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while
leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the
immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it...
virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and has
its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully for
skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous
macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete
healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed
severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used
CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with
sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be
toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance.

Bob





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Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

2005-01-23 Thread Ron
Some interesting recipes of Dr. Chase, including Blood Root...

http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/cookbooks/books/drchase/chas.html
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ed Kasper 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:03 PM
  Subject: RE: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE 


  I think chaparral  has some cautionary about use. 
  caution with history of liver disease. discontinue if nausea, fever, fatigue 
or jaundice occur

  bloodroot cautionary
  not to use while pregnant, may cause vomiting and nausea  do not exceed 
recommended dosage
  bloodroot is pretty expensive stuff so most folks will use  sparingly. 

  Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
  Acupuncture is a jab well done
  www.HappyHerbalist.com   Santa Cruz, CA. 



 -Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 7:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE 


I'm with Ed: the more information we can get, the better. I particular, I 
have read nothing about bloodroot and CS in combination or as complementary 
protocols. 

BTW I first read about bloodroot in Andrew Weil's great book. Spontaneous 
Healing. This is a must-have. (The subsequent book were a bit disappointing. . 
. ) 

Here is a recipe I found for a bloodroot salve. This can save lives. Kindly 
pass on the recipe to anyone interested. 

JBB





This is a recipe for a black paste very similar to the cansema. But this is 
a preferred paste for melanoma and all suspect skin cancer like lesions. This 
paste also has worked well for all manner of cancers provided that they have 
become exposed to or close to the surface of the skin. 

1/2 cup powdered Blood Root (Sanguinaria Canadensis) 
1/2 cup Zinc Chloride, crystals or liquid 
1/2 cup common white flour 
1 1/2 cup warm water 
100ml Chaparral extract or 100gm of powdered Chaparral (Larrea mexicana) 

Pre-mix all but the water, thoroughly, before adding to the water. Using a 
stainless steel double boiler. Put in water, then stir in the other 
ingredients. Stir in well using a wooden spoon. Cook for thirty minutes over 
boiling water, stirring constantly. Application is much the same as cansema. 
Apply a thin layer (2-3mm) of the paste over the affected area and cover for 24 
hours. Then remove the covering but do not disturb the lesion at all, do not 
attempt to pull the cancer out at any time, it should fall out in 10 days or 
so. Some people with sensitive skin put vaseline around the cancer so that the 
paste does not irritate the skin. 




On Monday, Jan 24, 2005, at 11:00 Asia/Tokyo, Ed Kasper wrote:


  Bob, will you elaborate on how you used bloodroot. did you make a 
tincture,
  how strong how applied.
  Thanks

  Ed

  -Original Message-
  From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc. NOW BLOODROOT


  Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large 
quantities
  it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained
  dosages when ingested. It works pretty much the same internally as it does
  topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while
  leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the
  immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of 
it...
  virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites. Escharotic therapy is quite old and 
has
  its roots in American Indian herbal medicine. I've used it successfully 
for
  skin cancer and sarcoid tumors. In every case there is a tremendous
  macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete
  healing. Amazing really. The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed
  severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it. I've used
  CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with
  sepsis or scarring. I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be
  toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance.

  Bob







Re: CStetrasil, etc.

2005-01-22 Thread Ode Coyote

 I don't know all that much about it.
 I worked with Jason on the subject for a while and apparently there are
number of important variables that a handle needs to form on concerning the
right amount of current and current density for given applications.
 I think that much of that depends of how much electrode, where and what
sort of conductive creame or whatever is used.
 I 'think' that it can be user adjusted, like, if it doesn't tingle and
some current is flowing through the desired area..that might be OK.  And
there are a number of ways to make it not tingle..and pay some attention to
ion flow direction.
  Whatever the conductive cream is made of will be important too.  It seems
likely that anything in that will also enter through the skin in charged
ionic forms. 

..all that to do it right
To do it so it works, well, anything goes that doesn't hurt, make burned
spots etc?
 The ions will travel if current flows and voltage is over, what, 1.2 volts?

 If using silver with a godziller works and doesn't make other problems?
Why not?

 Cutting ones head off with a butcher knife will certainly cure a
toothache. [Just kidding]

Now, getting silver ions 'into' a relatively non conductive and solid
medium like a toenail...could be a fairly high voltage challange.
 Making a high concentration in a localized area near the cuticle and doing
a lot of waiting might be the only way to go.

Ode

At 10:45 AM 1/21/2005 -0500, you wrote:


At 10:05 PM 18/01/05, you wrote:

I think I'll try iontophorisis soon by wrapping silver wires around the
wetted toe and applying a little current. [Direct 'on site' silver
generation and injection through the skin...and blood electrification by
default]

Ode

Hi.  Regarding the info above, I have some questions and I'm looking for
more info.

Would this be like using silver electrodes in my GodZiller?  I've used
silver electrodes instead of the steel cotter pins in my Ziller ever since
I made it over a year ago. I kind of had that same idea as above but didn't
know what it was called.  I noticed that it works fabulously on a tooth
ache/gum infection I get occasionally on one of my back molars.  I put one
silver electrode (wrapped in the cotton covering and soaked in CS) on one
side of the tooth and the other electrode held on the other side of the
tooth, then Zill.  There is a huge difference after just one application.
Much less sore and swelling.  After a few applications of 15 minutes each,
over the course of a day, soreness was gone and so was swelling.

I didn't know if it was the Ziller's effect or the combination of the
Ziller and the Silver/CS.  Your thoughts would be appreciated.  I want to
use this combo in a multi-pair electrode set-up for use on/around my liver
area for my Hep. C.  Do you think it would be better than the Ziller
itself?

On a different item, I have to state that I've had great success with using
CS internally against my G. herpes infections.  When I start getting the
signs, the soreness in my thigh, buttcheek, etc.. areas, I start drinking
the CS I make using the 3- 9 volt batteries/distilled water.   The sores
never appear or are only there for a day and then disappear.  If I drink
the CS everyday, I never get the breakouts.  It's when I slack off, they
come back.

Is there a way to use the Ziller against the G. herpes?  Since it's a nerve
virus, would zilling the areas where the soreness starts be helpful?
Anyone try this before?

Thanks,
Christine Mc.


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Re: CStetrasil, etc.

2005-01-21 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
My own experience is that a bloodroot tincture can be tremendously 
useful in tooth/gum infections, and works more quickly and reliably 
than CS.   The one caveat is that one does NOT want to have much 
bloodroot going down with saliva,  as the herb can be toxic in large 
quantities and can be an abortifacient, or so I have read.


Bloodroot somehow seeks out diseased/infected tissue and really -- ha 
ha -- roots it out.   Just astonishing, really.   Following up with 
H202 can be useful, and of course with the CS/MSM/DMSO mixture Mr. 
Bradley has explained in the archives.






On Saturday, Jan 22, 2005, at 00:45 Asia/Tokyo, 
cmccau...@kayescholer.com wrote:



I noticed that it works fabulously on a tooth
ache/gum infection I get occasionally on one of my back molars.  I put 
one
silver electrode (wrapped in the cotton covering and soaked in CS) on 
one

side of the tooth and the other electrode held on the other side of the
tooth, then Zill.  There is a huge difference after just one 
application.
Much less sore and swelling.  After a few applications of 15 minutes 
each,

over the course of a day, soreness was gone and so was swelling.



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Re: CStetrasil, etc.

2005-01-21 Thread bbanever
Jonathan - While it is true that bloodroot can be toxic in large quantities 
it can also be a life saver and cure for cancer in small but sustained 
dosages when ingested.   It works pretty much the same internally as it does 
topically it literally seeks out and destroys diseased cells while 
leaving healthy ones intact. Some say it lyses the cell wall allowing the 
immune system to identify and destroy that which was living inside of it... 
virus, bacteria, fungus, parasites.  Escharotic therapy is quite old and has 
its roots in American Indian herbal medicine.  I've used it successfully for 
skin cancer and sarcoid tumors.   In every case there is a tremendous 
macrophage attack of the tumor followed by its dehydration and complete 
healing.  Amazing really.  The size of the tumor on the skin is dwarfed 
severalfold by the amount of diseased cells under and around it.  I've used 
CS in the healing phase of this therapy and haven't had any problems with 
sepsis or scarring.  I'm sure in very large quantities bloodroot can be 
toxic and care must be taken when using this miracle substance.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: CStetrasil, etc.


My own experience is that a bloodroot tincture can be tremendously useful 
in tooth/gum infections, and works more quickly and reliably than CS. 
The one caveat is that one does NOT want to have much bloodroot going down 
with saliva,  as the herb can be toxic in large quantities and can be an 
abortifacient, or so I have read.


Bloodroot somehow seeks out diseased/infected tissue and really -- ha 
ha -- roots it out.   Just astonishing, really.   Following up with H202 
can be useful, and of course with the CS/MSM/DMSO mixture Mr. Bradley has 
explained in the archives.






On Saturday, Jan 22, 2005, at 00:45 Asia/Tokyo, cmccau...@kayescholer.com 
wrote:



I noticed that it works fabulously on a tooth
ache/gum infection I get occasionally on one of my back molars.  I put 
one

silver electrode (wrapped in the cotton covering and soaked in CS) on one
side of the tooth and the other electrode held on the other side of the
tooth, then Zill.  There is a huge difference after just one application.
Much less sore and swelling.  After a few applications of 15 minutes 
each,

over the course of a day, soreness was gone and so was swelling.



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